I patted a lalafel before but then it told me "I am married" and another much larger and black lalafell approached me with a huuuuuge sword and said "wtf why are you touching my wife?" and I am like "I didn't know I know I know I didn't! sorrr y sorry sorry" and then they made a gutteral screech a swarm of other lalafells quickly surounded me and started to hit my thighs and two of them each spanked one of my cheeks and I was very afraid and told them I wished to apologize and they stated I ought to sacrifice myself to the ash father and I have no idea whoever the fuck that is and now I don't pat lalafells no more.
@@eksporterTrue, but not always. If a fight demands a lot of tank switching, it may not be obvious who’s the MT now (and the enmity icon isn’t visible because of all buffs). I clicked on the tank that was about to be hit by a tank buster on multiple occasions bypassing the party list. Though, in a situation like this, there’s really no need to put an icon on the MT because there won’t be too big of a crowd around the tank when a tank buster comes. 😂
"Whoever has tank stance on first is usually the main tank" If you're a sage and no tank has it up, it's your decision, who you give Kardia to is the main tank. 💅
Don't send unsolicited FC invites to every person in town that isn't already in a FC. Put it in chat that your FC is looking for new members and let people contact you if they want to join.
You can also poach, I think a lot of people find it flattering and are waiting for someone to seek them out. But you should send a tell first and make it clear you value their time and aren't just sending out invites to the masses as quickly as possible.
For anyone else plagued by this: you can go to your Grand Company HQ and create an FC, and just... leave the petition waiting for signatures forever, and the game will treat you as if you are in that FC that hasn't been finalized yet, so no one will be able to send you invitations.
If you are ranged please don’t stand a million miles away from the healer!! had my first run of the new msq ultima weapon where the sprout bard tried to be as far away from me as possible….. I rescued him so i could heal them, never had it on my hotbar so i had to put it on mid fight 😂
or just go to the healer if you want to be healed. If you are full health as ranged DPS stand wherever you want but if you want the booboos for your ouchies, go to the healer to get them. They will probably shot an AOE heal every once in a while so they don't even need to target you especially and can just continue with their rotation.
I love when the healer pulls the boss, die, and then blame the rest of the team for being too slow while the other two guys is waiting for someone to finish the cutscene.
I think LB is confusing for some people still I hope someone makes a video about it but. Limit breaks generate the fastest when... Doing critical damage, players take damage, being healed from critical HP (10% and lower) and when interrupting flashing cast bars. The more damage you do the faster enemies die, the less limit break gets generated. This is because limit breaks are a way for parties to "catch up" or complete boss mechanics that require a tank LB. The LB potency hierarchy is as follows: Melee DPS > Ranged Caster > Ranged Phys -Ranged phys can obviously hit a group that's spread out in a line further than caster (54% of melee potency) -Caster ranged has the closest potency to melee and a sizable radius in a circle (60% of melee potency) -Melee is single target but has the highest potency and should always be priority on bosses Limit break 2s have a 2.2 multiplier, making them significantly higher in damage and limit break 3s are a 3.5x all limit breaks scale from LB 1 Make sure to prioritize Limit breaks in the order of their potency, use limit breaks if the dungeon is taking a while or if your party is struggling. Use limit break when you would otherwise be wasting it (when the bar is full but there is still a lot more to do in that instance). Gauge the boss health bar to determine when to use limit break 2, if the boss is dying fast then use limit break immediately, if the boss spawns mandatory adds, use caster or ranged limit breaks to defeat them quickly. A side note, limit breaks scale off of your party's weapon ilevel, using lb 1 can sometimes be a DPS loss in the wrong situation. LB 3 and LB 2 can also be DPS losses when used in the wrong moment, having long cast times means less time to do damage and position correctly to avoid mechanics. Using a DPS LB 3 at the wrong time can also result in a wipe if used too early when a healer or tank would have been more beneficial.
Someone hopping is also a means to show others which way to go in a dungeon. Also, if the boss shows an eyeball marker, it means to look away from the boss because something nasty is about to happen.
When I was a sprout and we were in the OG "The Thousand Maws of Toto-Rak" dungeon my 3 team mates went and killed the boss when I was watching the cut scene so when I came out of the cut scene I was thrown right back into a cut scene.
I think a very important one that wasn't mentioned is making sure you're using food and the right food for your class when going into high end content in party finder. While it's not totally neccessary in some prog situations the extra max hp is very helpful and makes your healers lives so much easier. It especially is important when the fight has a dps check or high outgoing dmg. Having played this game a lot I've seen too many die barely to not having food
so just a correction regarding the damage part, you can't indeed know how much is damage someone is doing without ACT, but you can always know if they were doing enough damage or not but looking at their aggro number, for example, if I play as a healer and find myself (in a boss fight not trash of course) lower in the aggro list number which is displayed, I point out nicely that they may need to check their skill kit, I did actually end up teaching a new SAM how to use their job properly once before during a prae run and they were very welcoming to that, the whole point is that you can tell someone that they aren't doing "enough" damage and not be a douchebag about it, and if you are not willing to teach them then just it would be better of not to say anything then.
You do build aggro when you spam a lot of heals as a healer as well, hence why sometimes the trash can target you instead of the tank, but I have ever only encountered this during trash pulls myself, in dungeon boss fights for example you as a healer should always be the 4th, while it depends for dps jobs normally a melee should be 2nd and ranged should be 3rd, but that if both dps with these respective roles are really good with how they play their classes (except for BLM if the user is reaaaallly good with it lmao), other than that it doesn't really matter, as long as a dps higher in the aggro list that means the boss dies faster. it is not as accurate as an ACT of course since we have skills like skirk that can mess this up if applied on any role other than tank, but still a decent indicator in casual play at least.
> you can tell someone that they aren't doing "enough" damage And risk getting banned? I just report anyone who tries that on me. Then they never do it again. :)
With commendations, i usually give them out like this. If I'm solo tanking, give it to the healer. If I'm co tanking, give it to the other tank. If I'm solo healing, give it to the tank. If I'm co healing, give it to the other healer. If I'm a DPS, give it to the DPS with the best portrait. If I have a dance partner, give it to them. If someone else has a dance partner, don't give it to them. There are exceptions like if a healer or tank does an exceptionally good/bad job or if another DPS can beat me on the aggro meter for an entire alliance raid.
Use Focus Taget! Use it on the tank/main tank so you can keep an eye on where they are. If you are solo tanking, use it on the healer so you can always know where they are.
On a healer, use it on the boss. That way, even if you've had to swap targets to heal, you can see how much your DoT timer still has on the boss and, more importantly, see what abilities the boss is casting and when they go off. SUPER important if you ever start doing Extremes or Savages to know what the boss is doing all the time, since some of those you really have to recognize the ability and start moving to the safe spot while the cast is still going.
I know what you *meant*, but I love the irony of saying "always tank North" and showing a clip where you are technically tanking "West". It's clearer to say always tank opposite to your party, or pull the boss and then walk through it to the other side. The first person to turn on the stance being Main tank is a good rule of thumb, however if you're fully melded high ilvl and not level sync'd, you might find that even if you don't actively try, you steal aggro from the MT, at that point, might as well just remain the new MT. After all, no Normal diff content has *required* tank swaps, and in anything higher than extremes or savages you'll most likely have agreed to which tank you'll be before pulling (and *hopefully* not have such a large ilvl difference that it matters)
To add to this, if you are fighting a boss that always faces south during all of its mechanics, just tank the boss in that direction so melees dont have to worry about it spinning every 10 seconds.
I have to critique your "Emote Spam" chapter. Simply unchecking the "Display log message" box is not guaranteed safety. The very first strike on my account was from emote spam. I made sure that I had unchecked the log message box before spamming. And you may be thinking "Well maybe it was an annoying emote with sound?" Nope. It was /point. Point does not produce sound on any race or gender. I received a week long ban for it. It would honestly be better to just say that the message log box is a lie and that spam is spam. Period.
lol something aint right, i've been spamming emotes since the beginning of time in limsa and i've never had issue, even with emote sounds, unless u are doing it to someone whos told u to stop then maybe u'd get in trouble but still seems really odd that spamming /point would get u in trouble
@StingcatKnight This also happened in Limsa. No one around me cared (to be fair, I was spaming for 5 mins straight, nonstop). When my friends found out, they also were also stumped. But to this day, I still suspect there was a GM just hanging out, invisible. Decided to throw me in GM jail. When I was in there, they kept asking me if I knew why I was in there. I genuinely had no idea cause spaming is something I had done before. Why was it suddenly a problem?
You forgot to say that tanks should pull boss to center of arena at the start and not just gap close and fuck all the melees with their openers and casters with having to move a lot
I do want to clear up the misconception that no one ever uses the raid finder for end game content. People do absolutely make use of it over on the JP DCs. Queues are bustling on Tuesday reset for savage reclears, but it definitely dies off later in the week where your best bet is to then use party finder. Extreme queues are always populated since you can farm them, and Unreals to a lesser extent because people only want to run them twice a week but a lot of players still do those. It's a culture difference that I've come to appreciate for it's convenience in letting me queue to farm extremes whenever I want. I can just requeue on the role that is mostly in need instead of committing to whatever role I join as in a party finder group.
@@StingcatKnight my main is currently on JP Elemental but I have alts across NA and OCE as well to play with friends. Another interesting thing I've learned is that on the JP and OCE DCs (probably taken from the JP culture), for alliance raids specifically, there is an unspoken rule that the tank of alliance B will be the MT. Can be quite shocking for sprouts queuing into their first alliance raid 😱 Other than that, I think pretty much all the other unspoken rules in your video are common points across all the DCs. :)
Are you talking about EXs and Raids that aren't latest expansion content? Because if it's current content then yeah that's always true, but old content no.
Give your commendations to people that are nice or are trying hard to make the run go smoothly. Don't just reward the person that stood in everything and may not really be paying attention. Unless they're trying really hard.
It’s also nice to actually give commendations. Regardless to whom exactly. A lot of people just jump out without doing that, and it often makes me (a healer) think that they somehow got pissed off and question if I did everything right. 😖
It's a shame that you can't give comms once someone has left.. I find I give it to whoever is left to give it to. I mean I'm happy to at least give it to someone but if someone who worked really hard has already left, it feels like a waste.
quick tip: if someone is standing on your target: NUM 0 is normally bound to target and then use the nearest NPC or interactable object in front of you, or for example in case you want to turn in lots of items at your Grand Company for seals, you can do that with the same button, without having to click each single item and confirm another tip: hide your chat window with this combo on the numpad: 1 * 0 it reappears as soon as you press enter to input some text ;)
For me, commendations go: 1. The nicest/most friendly or active one in the chat…. also anyone who is helpful since I am still a learning Sprout (Lv70) 2. If someone’s glam or portrait jumps out to me, they get it, unless they were rude 3. Healer, unless they were rude/not trying In general, I just never give it to those who ignore CS cause they stink (and let me enjoy this content for the first time properly).
When it comes to main tanking. If I'm in the mood for it I usually ask if I can be it. I feel that's much better overall imo then rushing it asap. Sometimes sprouts don't get a chance to ever main tank in stuff like trials
I hate tanking 24 mans, if ya ask nobody replies, other 2 tanks just stand there doing nothing. So i pull as MT then one of them does Provoke off me....every. single. time. Its like if you wanted MT then attack boss already smh. Or i see a Provoke contest between 2-3 of tanks and boss is turn like crazy, messing up melee dmg bonuses and cleaving parties. Its often a pain in the ass smh
With commendations, if the run is average I usually end up commending the tank or healer depending on my role but in rare cases I try to make a mental note to commend an exceptional DPS, like for example, there was a Pictomancer in a dungeon who soloed a boss at its last 1% of hp after me, the healer and the other dps died, then me and him proceeded to finish the last boss of the dungeon after the healer and other dps died again. Other times, I'll just randomly commend DPS out of frustration when I feel the healer/tank let me down, or maybe I just choose to commend a dps just because I feel like it.
Your tip about the LB just upset a huge number of smoothbrains that actively squander the LB to save it for the last boss when it is already 1 hit away from dying. Tank/Healer damage limit break options would be a godsend.
To be fair to the Melee LB crew, the 'easy to understand' numbers do favor it. It's *all* the nuance that ends up favoring the caster LB which means, as a WHM main, I really don't care either way.
Also of note: Caster LB > Ranged Physical LB on multiple targets. As a Melee LB, I use mine as early as possible on mid-bosses so that the team can build up the first bar again more quickly in the run. As a RDM, I am absolutely spamming Verblind as soon as that LB3 becomes available - melee be verdamned!
it can vary on the content and if the tank is chain pulling or not and the power of the party's own default aoe. basically just be smart about when to use it
As an Elemental healer main player who occasionally play tank, i can confirm that JP DC tend to have B alliance to main tank. But its recommended to have your stance on in case the other tank couldnt pull the boss. While its recommended to keep the boss facing north, some duties like Ultima Weapin and Ifrit would be facing other side and its okay as long as you face the boss away from the team
Maybe this is just a me thing but i hate it when people step in my character model (outside of combat) and just stand there blocking my character model. Idk why but it bothers me, but i always have to move away. GIve me some space.
“Usually when someone jumps in the same spot it indicates it’s a safe place to be” My adhd: *clicks space bar over and over again to hear the clicking and eh cause I can’t sit still* Boss: *kills my teammates for thinking they are safe* Me: 💀😭😭
3:43 The first time I ever joined a FC I was checking out all the emotes and I didn't realize that it was spamming the chat with my emotes. I felt super embarrased because it was in their FC house as some others were saying hello to each other.
Oh, I'll tank the entire market on an item out of spite if I see a macro undercut after I price matched. There's a different set of rules and etiquette for crafters and the market board and we're bloodthirsty.
If your trying to sell things, undercut reasonably Or Sell it for the exact same as the one on the top of the page, that way people won't get the notification that someone is selling the item for cheaper by 1-whatever I've sold atleast 20mil worth of things by doing this method, highest was calfrider bottoms
@@StingcatKnight some people sell things, and have a mod that will notify them when someone undercut you I just sell things at the same price as the top one(on top of the compare prices page) and then don't look till the next day, when that happened, I usually sell what I'm selling, those I don't I either adjust the price, (if it undercut by a good 4k-90k I'll just keep it where it was)
tank stance should be on by both tanks with the main tank using provoke, due to potential double tank busters targeting the first 2 players with highest enmity.
you're not wrong, but just for aggro sake at the start its best that they dont FIGHT FOR AGGRO at the start. boss will toss and turn. after their opener then they should have it on.
My personal rule is to turn it on after 5 to 10 seconds. That allows the MT if they're not DRK to get a head start and I (as DRK usually) can be reasonably behind in enmity without risking pulling aggro by accident. That was at least until the potency changes
Those usually don't occur right away so there's time to get the opening burst off first and then turn it on. Even with something like P9S where it's fairly early in the fight, having it on by the first Ravening still assures you're 2nd in aggro to get the Duality double TB.
Eh... if the off-tank keeps an eye on the party list, they can toggle their tank-stance on/off during the fight to ensure they stay in the number 2 spot. Thats what i do when im playing a tank with a friend who mains tank. I'll toggle it on for like 4 attacks, then turn it back off, then watch the agro-bars/numbers in the party list as the fight goes on. Then if i see someone in the DPS/healer group starting to fill up their agro bar, i'll turn it back on for another 4 or 5 attacks.
In #25 he says to let the person who pulled solo the boss on their own. This behavior is against the FFXIV's TOS and it's pretty obvious when you're doing it, so I would heavily recommend against doing that. You can and will eventually be reported for it. Once the boss is pulled, if you're not still watching the cutscene, you should be helping your party with fighting the boss regardless of whether the person who pulled it was being rude by doing so.
tbh if you or someone else has run a ready check, if there are people not ready you have good enough reason not to pull or help when people are pulling. You are technically recommended to have all people present to do the fight.
I undercut by 50% or more all the time and I don't think it's unreasonable at all. If some crafted item costs 50k gil and 5 seconds to make and the lowest price for it on the MB is 1M I will absolutely put it up for sale for something like 200k. That might be an extreme example but it does happen. I'd rather sell 5 thingies per day at a reasonable price than wait for a week for someone crazy enough to buy at the stupidly high price.
I just got the game for the first time a few days ago, and made myself a lalafel. I always kept wondering why people keep patting me before and/or after dungeons, trials or raids. 😂
For the love Miqote Gods, slot a Materia into empty materia slot before joining a prog group. It's a common courtesy to at least try. Besides, materia are given out for free like candy. There's no reason not to slot it.
3. Should probably note to use Party Finder or it just sounds like end game content is impossible to get into :P 6. Wouldn't left, center, and right be more accurate? 8. I give commendations in this order: Player who did exceptionally well (possibly saved the run) > new/struggling player who's trying/improving > Player who did decently > the other healer 10. Also, don't be afraid to ask. I've never seen anyone who asked be turned down. 11. Ironically, I rarely see MT as leader in end game content. It's always whoever created the PF group (and it's not like you queued in DF). 12. Haven't seen it, dunno why you'd perpetuate it, guessing it's only on certain datacenters/worlds, but I suppose it technically counts as an unspoken rule :D 17. Don't forget you can hold 'x' by default to make people untargetable! As a corollary rule, don't summon your chocobo while doing quests on patch day. 21. I dunno if this one qualifies as unspoken... 28 + 29: Possibly among the most spoken rules I know of :D
"If someone emotes at you then you always emote back." Sorry, but that is bullshit and not an unspoken rule. You are not obliged to talk to or emote at anyone else.
i mean if you dont want to, you dont have to. But there's no denying that it might lead to people thinking youre rude. If you dont care, good for you but some people might so its still good to know :)
As far as reviving people; as soon as you get to the HW area, you can pick up Astrologian (AST) at level 30 and it has a raise. If you have EW, at level 70, you can pick up Sage (SGE) and it has a raise. So if you mainly play a tank or DPS Job, you an still get a raise that you can use if you ever find a KO person and want to help them out by swapping to the AST or SGE (if it's safe to do so/there aren't high level enemies right there that will kill you) to help out. Not sure about the Limsa thing, I avoid Limsa, though I've noticed Hunt Trains occasionally someone will mention it. I think it's because /yell chat is yellow (hence pee) and /shout chat is not, since it's orange. People use /y for shorter range discussions, though, like when people were waiting on Chi to spawn in UT but didn't want to spoilers the zone for people still running the MSQ the first time. Jump safe spot is super important. It's easier to hit jump a few times than type a message like "Safe spot is at [playername/locationrelativetoboss]". Just easier to quickly jump a couple times, and by the time you'd type out the message, most of the time, the mechanic/attack will have already gone off and it's too late. And yes, Lalafells are instantly friends with other Lalafells. I'm not sure why, but it's amazing. : )
Me getting lots of commendations: Before seeing this video- “I’m killing these dungeons. I’m a living god!” After seeing this video- “…oh.” Even so, I love how forgiving the community is for this game.
Sorry but I give my com to those that do a good job and have proven to earn my recognition now I understand what you are saying but I’m not the type of person that gives out participation trophies but that’s just me I normally do give one out almost every time but it goes towards the one that did the best job during the run. As far as undercutting goes I agree people that massively drive down the price just suck because in the end you’re just forcing yourself to make less money and are ruining it for everyone else as well that are trying to sell the same thing.
thats fair for commendations, and the undercutting makes no sense sometimes, because MOST of the time it really does not sell faster unless u are undercutting across the datacentre
TBH I won't commend a Roulette/Deep Dungeon player who doesn't at least say hello or goodbye, unless they do something stupendously, exceptionally good. Saying hi should be a bare minimum for PUGs in any game. I make a point of both greeting and bidding farewell in every Roulette or multiplayer Deep Dungeon I run -- unless the whole rest of the team was so awful that I just want to slink out of the encounter in fuming silence.
"BE SOCIAL!!!! TALK TO ME!!!! DON'T JUST PLAY THE GAME, I WANT YOU TO INTERACT!!!!!!" damn bro, "bare minimum"? it's not that deep. I rarely say hi and only say gg when the duty was actually not a boring one, I'm not going to say gg in shit like praetorium lmao. To each their own I guess.
There are also folks on PS who may not have a keyboard on-hand to bother typing in chat. I don't particularly care if people chat or not, as long as they are competent.
in jp dc queueing endgame content is not impossible, including savage duty, altho there's some differences needed to mention.. jp dc has 1loot per person rule culture in pf so queueing raid finder means u agree for FFA by default... next u cant control the 4th dps job so by game default setting any role can fill 4th dps, u'll end up with most probably double caster... queueing raid finder for extreme trial is very much common tho...
@@StingcatKnight forgot to mention, since there's multiple strats for certain fight, whichever macro posted 1st, the group will follow that strat.. so it's best people know how to do every strat before queueing raid finder...
Lmao... Giving comms to the person struggling the most I think it's actually bm hahaha, at least all people I know use it as a way to say "yeah we saw you die 70 times" xdddsd
@@StingcatKnight not always. when i spam dungeons with friends as tank/heal/dps and some runs take 50% longer than others, with the only variable being the 2nd dps, we know.
I wish every Alliance Raid player who deliberately messes up their way markers to fck with other players a very I Hope You Lose Every Housing and Firmament Lottery you sign up for
24 man alliance raids yes ty pointing this out ✨️ all of them are like that. A = left B = middle C = right All from mobs how they're placed to various things one team needs to interact with yet so many stand with the wrong team being out of range for their own party's buffs and heals etc
I ended up not with my team once because I was watching the cutscene (first time through) and by the time it ended I had like 2 seconds before it sealed and it shucked me with group a :' ) (was group c) I was confused and worried (since the video I watched made it abundantly clear I needed to be with my group) but it seemed to go fine.
@@TimelordSnowyYea, the game will auto-plant people into group "A"s area if you go into those via the "teleport to the boss" thing... its ok if one or 2 people get shifted around, but if 5 or 6 do, its a wype.. but then its not YOUR fault if that happens, its the impatient asshats that triggered the fight without waiting for you to finnish the cutsceen's fault :) FFXIV has one of the most considerate Communities for new players (we will turn on a toxic player like a pack of starving wolves to protect our Sprouts), but we DO have that one % of peopel who are asshats... EVERY MMO will have them. We just dont tollerate them :D
People Always... ALWAYS stand right against the npc and portal or gates that required activation and I don't understand why... I never stand infront of things that required clicking. Imagine playing controller and 1000 people standing right at the npc for you to select. That's annoying af
This was damn good! Tho I would hold back on petting a lalafell because some of them take real umbridge to it. (tho not me if I'm glammed as lala, pls pet away)
Actually, not all Lalafel like to be petted. I have several friends who get really tired of people treating them as 'children' simply because they are small and cute. However, if a lala is putting in a clear effort to be cute, then pets are probably welcome.
if it helps u sell faster maybe, but all u gotta do most of the time is to undercut by data centre price not just cut ur own profit by like 50% for no reason
the thing on emoting back isn't even like common etiquette, it doesn't matter if you do or don't, same thing with commodations, and the same for saying hi or bye in dungeons.
There are some ppl that just care to clear the fight then done, so yeah it's not always be case to said greet and goodbye in every duty. As long as it went well
I do #5 soooooooo often every time i see even a single "Sprout" in a dungeon/raid with me XD #13 Yup.. especially if you are a healer (or a new healer) and for some reason forgot you had Regen on your tank when they went to pull a new pack of mobs in a dungeon. That Regen effect will 'instantly' cause aggro to shift to you, so go hug your Tank so they can take the agro from you without having to chase you down :D #26 ive been punting them...... guess ive been doing it wrong? (Kidding of course! though i do have an actual 'punt' macro i made as a joke with friends who play Potato's :D ) #30 I may be wrong.. but i THINK that only counts for 'your' client. If your wanting to not spam the chat at all, typing the emote command with "Motion" after it, does the emote without any chat-spam. ie: /wave motion
Just to add, if you drop a Regen on your tank just *after* they pull, you'll immediately have all the enemies in that pack in your list of targets, and can smoothly scroll down the list dotting or direct damaging until someone needs a heal.
> That Regen effect will 'instantly' cause aggro to shift to you, so go hug your Tank so they can take the agro from you without having to chase you down :D Stop posting because you clearly have no idea what you're saying. Be an insufferable Burger King crown somewhere else.
Yeah. It's the yell chat. The default color is an bright yellow. So, it is called the piss chat. I joke and say "stop talking in piss and shout like proper people".
lol its the /yell chat channel i beleieve.. its short-ranged, but longer-ranged than /say chat is. Its called "piss chat" because the default color is neon-yellow for the text XD
ima disagree with that, melee can use arms length to hugely mitigate trash mobs and if healer wants to pull they are free to do so imo since they confident in healing the tank regardless
2:tank north, not always, E12s p2 essy to bring boss south and party goes behind then drag the boss all the way north for first mechanic. Infact you should this rule with "never pull a boss with a gapcloser" had some annoying GNB in Barb Ex who insisted on MT even though i was bis and so he struggled to keep aggro but either they gapclosed in and didn't centre boss and made melee miss a gcd just argh
I dont watch youtube videos before boss fights. Im old fashioned, i prefer to play my video games. Watching a youtube video doesnt make you a good player. It makes you copycat. Learn it on your own
don't forget to never dance in the thornmarch , it psychologically hurts the moogles. If you dance, (Seriously.. Don't.) then you might die instantly. Never join free companies. Embrace chaos. Call those around you "Steve" even if they aren't named steve.
The last one about the emote spam is wrong btw. It doesn't display the messages for you anymore, but everyone else will still get the emote spam in chat.
lol its the /yell chat channel i beleieve.. its short-ranged, but longer-ranged than /say chat is. Its called "piss chat" because the default color is neon-yellow for the text XD
Wait I just came back to the game and have been getting flooded with commendations. Now I'm trying to figure out if it's cause the damn symbol by my name or because I fkin suck 😒 🤣
Some of these are the reason why I really despise this game sometimes. I understand learning the ins and outs of extreme and above, but why tf I gotta study up on every single dungeon and trial before playing them. Kinda ruins the spectacle and the story.
@@StingcatKnight I run tank and don't have a party, last few times I didn't, burger king crowns got pissy. Seriously, everything that isn't extreme or higher must be rushed, you waste a minute of a FFXIV players time and you really feel it. I imagine that's why they changed Castrum and Praetorium. Back when the cutscenes were skippable and it was 8 man, fuck you if you were new and wanted to enjoy the story! They'd rush off as fast as they could absolutely ruining it for new players. So, yes, I've had to learn each and every dungeon to a degree I can speedrun it less I get a pissy mentor.
@@tenthirtyseven-v1study up on what dungeon? They’re all pretty much the same. None of the mechanics are so difficult you can’t adjust as soon as you see them. Same with normal trial and raids. Honestly only things you need to study before hand are extremes, savages, unreals, and ultimates. All the ‘casual’ content can be cleared the first time you see it with no problem
@@Someone_3lse You don't seem to understand. No shit you can clear most normal content by just doing it, that's all incredibly easy, frankly too easy but that's another story. Problem is when you get patnered up with most long time FFXIV players. Don't pull the entire dungeon? They'll force you to. Step down the wrong path for two seconds? Their impatient ass will ignore you and rush into the next pack. Not playing perfectly? "Hey would you like some tanking tips?" You have to study each dungeon as you are essentially expected to speedrun them. You MIGHT get away with a normal run if you're new to the instance, otherwise forget it. If I go into a dungeon or trial without in depth knowledge, it is a skewed coin flip to whether a burger king crown, parser or a lifer will get irate and start acting like a baby.
@@tenthirtyseven-v1I hate to say it but if that’s happening to you all the time then that’s literally a skill issue. If it’s just wall to wall pulling stuff then that’s an NA thing. It’s never gonna change. JP however takes things slower. It’s really just a culture thing. You shouldn’t have to study on dungeons or any non extreme+ content unless ur really struggling. All in all if you play on a non JP server and are doing casual content, people are gonna want to go fast. If you don’t like it the just don’t tank tbh.
with comms i give it to whom ever did above and beyond in a duty. not the screwup floor tanking 90% of the fight... if i see Lalafail i drop kick em :p
Nah man always give the commendation to the healer, unless the healer sucked. Then, give it to the tank, especially if the healer died mid boss and the tank managed to pull the team through regardless. Exceptions: If the DPS was funny or friendly and the others were dead silent, or if a RDM or SMN raise saved the party from a wipe. Also, if your DPS initiates aggro and you're the tank, let them die before you reclaim aggro. Only exceptions are if the innocent healer starts taking aggro trying to heal the impatient DPS, in which case save them, or if it's obvious the DPS didn't actually mean to pull. Make sure the DPS was one of those people that just like to initiate assuming the tank will come by and save them. Teach them they are wrong.
that could work too for commendations, i personally dont see much problem of dps doing that as its just free mitigation in my eyes and they can pop arms length for even more mitigation
I will pull the boss anyway as a tank. They can watch the cutscene then get pulled after they’re done. If you want to let the tank solo the boss then gl completing the dungeon on time.
@@StingcatKnight yeah I get told I am quite a bit actually. I help quite often and literally give new players I’m helping a ton of Gil just to give them a head start in the game. If it’s someone else tanking, especially a new player, I stay quiet and wait. So you can go ahead and stop with the assumption. Barely anyone wants to wait on a cutscene they’ve ran a dungeon for over 100+ times now. Ironically enough the ones that aren’t fun to play with are those that talk like you.
"completing the dungeon on time" what do you legit mean by this? I've literally never seen any party even get close to running out the timer on a dungeon, its never that stringent. Also, once had a tank with your perspective abandon when everybody else let the sprout watch their cutscene, so we just let dragoon keep aggro and did the later part of the dungeon with 3 people. gl making friends when you refuse to follow general rules of etiquette, a decent party *can* both survive and clear with or without you.
If im in an Aliance raid and i see sprouts around watching cutsceens at the beginning, i'll actually type: /a "We have sprouts with us, please be kind and wait at cutsceenes" Both the Instant the barrier drops and /a chat becomes available, AND before the final fight (which generally has the cutsceen at it).
I patted a lalafel before but then it told me "I am married" and another much larger and black lalafell approached me with a huuuuuge sword and said "wtf why are you touching my wife?" and I am like "I didn't know I know I know I didn't! sorrr y sorry sorry" and then they made a gutteral screech a swarm of other lalafells quickly surounded me and started to hit my thighs and two of them each spanked one of my cheeks and I was very afraid and told them I wished to apologize and they stated I ought to sacrifice myself to the ash father and I have no idea whoever the fuck that is and now I don't pat lalafells no more.
thats.... interesting
The correct response would have been to pat the larger lalafell. Never show fear to those creatures.
@@maryine8515 LOL gotta assert dominance
@@StingcatKnightno we lalas love our headpats and get jealous when we don't get them😂
You lucky the only spanked you. From the rumors I hear, they more into organ harvesting for minor offenses.
If you're tanking as a lalafel, put a marker over yourself to help the healers find you.
How do you put a marker over yourself?
@@3mileisland516 Target yourself, open the party menu, and select a marker.
@@threadscore Thanks very much, I'll remember that! 😁
healers clicking on the party list: 🤫🤫🤫
@@eksporterTrue, but not always. If a fight demands a lot of tank switching, it may not be obvious who’s the MT now (and the enmity icon isn’t visible because of all buffs). I clicked on the tank that was about to be hit by a tank buster on multiple occasions bypassing the party list. Though, in a situation like this, there’s really no need to put an icon on the MT because there won’t be too big of a crowd around the tank when a tank buster comes. 😂
"Whoever has tank stance on first is usually the main tank"
If you're a sage and no tank has it up, it's your decision, who you give Kardia to is the main tank. 💅
oooh true
yes yes indeed
when you're both drk and the sage randomly assigns you mt status with kardia: fine i'll do my duty
Don't send unsolicited FC invites to every person in town that isn't already in a FC. Put it in chat that your FC is looking for new members and let people contact you if they want to join.
You can also poach, I think a lot of people find it flattering and are waiting for someone to seek them out. But you should send a tell first and make it clear you value their time and aren't just sending out invites to the masses as quickly as possible.
true and real, it gets annoying
For anyone else plagued by this: you can go to your Grand Company HQ and create an FC, and just... leave the petition waiting for signatures forever, and the game will treat you as if you are in that FC that hasn't been finalized yet, so no one will be able to send you invitations.
Had one guy send me a tell each time I entered limsa, after declining twice, I resort to blacklisting
It's the only time someone talks to me though
If you are ranged please don’t stand a million miles away from the healer!! had my first run of the new msq ultima weapon where the sprout bard tried to be as far away from me as possible….. I rescued him so i could heal them, never had it on my hotbar so i had to put it on mid fight 😂
oooh yea thats good point, i get triggered when ppl stand so far for no reason and i cant reach them with my heals
or just go to the healer if you want to be healed. If you are full health as ranged DPS stand wherever you want but if you want the booboos for your ouchies, go to the healer to get them. They will probably shot an AOE heal every once in a while so they don't even need to target you especially and can just continue with their rotation.
I love when the healer pulls the boss, die, and then blame the rest of the team for being too slow while the other two guys is waiting for someone to finish the cutscene.
🫠well as long as the tank is not intentionally letting the healer die
I think LB is confusing for some people still I hope someone makes a video about it but.
Limit breaks generate the fastest when...
Doing critical damage, players take damage, being healed from critical HP (10% and lower) and when interrupting flashing cast bars.
The more damage you do the faster enemies die, the less limit break gets generated.
This is because limit breaks are a way for parties to "catch up" or complete boss mechanics that require a tank LB.
The LB potency hierarchy is as follows:
Melee DPS > Ranged Caster > Ranged Phys
-Ranged phys can obviously hit a group that's spread out in a line further than caster (54% of melee potency)
-Caster ranged has the closest potency to melee and a sizable radius in a circle (60% of melee potency)
-Melee is single target but has the highest potency and should always be priority on bosses
Limit break 2s have a 2.2 multiplier, making them significantly higher in damage and limit break 3s are a 3.5x all limit breaks scale from LB 1
Make sure to prioritize Limit breaks in the order of their potency, use limit breaks if the dungeon is taking a while or if your party is struggling.
Use limit break when you would otherwise be wasting it (when the bar is full but there is still a lot more to do in that instance).
Gauge the boss health bar to determine when to use limit break 2, if the boss is dying fast then use limit break immediately, if the boss spawns mandatory adds, use caster or ranged limit breaks to defeat them quickly.
A side note, limit breaks scale off of your party's weapon ilevel, using lb 1 can sometimes be a DPS loss in the wrong situation.
LB 3 and LB 2 can also be DPS losses when used in the wrong moment, having long cast times means less time to do damage and position correctly to avoid mechanics.
Using a DPS LB 3 at the wrong time can also result in a wipe if used too early when a healer or tank would have been more beneficial.
wow thats very indepth, thx for sharing!
thx so much! straight forward and easy to understand guide!
bro its you. YOU should be the one making a guide video on LBs.
@@Nakurye I wish lmao, I don't have the charisma for that ;P
Someone hopping is also a means to show others which way to go in a dungeon.
Also, if the boss shows an eyeball marker, it means to look away from the boss because something nasty is about to happen.
What does it mean when a boss puts a circle under you that you can't run away from?
@@3mileisland516 It means "Healer, adjust!"
@@no-stresscat1519 Thanks! What does healer adjust mean? 🤣
@@3mileisland516 It means the healer has to keep you from getting pulverized to death.
@@no-stresscat1519 Ok, so when that happens should I run to a healer, get hit and then hope they heal me straight away? 😅
When I was a sprout and we were in the OG "The Thousand Maws of Toto-Rak" dungeon my 3 team mates went and killed the boss when I was watching the cut scene so when I came out of the cut scene I was thrown right back into a cut scene.
During original Praetorum, it was normal for first-timers to never get to move, stuck in chain cutscenes long after we finished the dungeon
🤣🤣🤣
I think a very important one that wasn't mentioned is making sure you're using food and the right food for your class when going into high end content in party finder. While it's not totally neccessary in some prog situations the extra max hp is very helpful and makes your healers lives so much easier. It especially is important when the fight has a dps check or high outgoing dmg. Having played this game a lot I've seen too many die barely to not having food
so just a correction regarding the damage part, you can't indeed know how much is damage someone is doing without ACT, but you can always know if they were doing enough damage or not but looking at their aggro number, for example, if I play as a healer and find myself (in a boss fight not trash of course) lower in the aggro list number which is displayed, I point out nicely that they may need to check their skill kit, I did actually end up teaching a new SAM how to use their job properly once before during a prae run and they were very welcoming to that, the whole point is that you can tell someone that they aren't doing "enough" damage and not be a douchebag about it, and if you are not willing to teach them then just it would be better of not to say anything then.
interesting, arent some classes just naturally have more aggro?
You do build aggro when you spam a lot of heals as a healer as well, hence why sometimes the trash can target you instead of the tank, but I have ever only encountered this during trash pulls myself, in dungeon boss fights for example you as a healer should always be the 4th, while it depends for dps jobs normally a melee should be 2nd and ranged should be 3rd, but that if both dps with these respective roles are really good with how they play their classes (except for BLM if the user is reaaaallly good with it lmao), other than that it doesn't really matter, as long as a dps higher in the aggro list that means the boss dies faster.
it is not as accurate as an ACT of course since we have skills like skirk that can mess this up if applied on any role other than tank, but still a decent indicator in casual play at least.
> you can tell someone that they aren't doing "enough" damage
And risk getting banned? I just report anyone who tries that on me. Then they never do it again. :)
@@belphegor_dev i had a duo who was flaming a new sprout really hard about dps for no reason lol, really strange ppl
this doesnt apply if someone dies midfight, as dying makes you lose all aggro, and you have to work your way back up to where you were
With commendations, i usually give them out like this.
If I'm solo tanking, give it to the healer.
If I'm co tanking, give it to the other tank.
If I'm solo healing, give it to the tank.
If I'm co healing, give it to the other healer.
If I'm a DPS, give it to the DPS with the best portrait.
If I have a dance partner, give it to them.
If someone else has a dance partner, don't give it to them.
There are exceptions like if a healer or tank does an exceptionally good/bad job or if another DPS can beat me on the aggro meter for an entire alliance raid.
"If someone else has a dance partner, don't give it to them"
I thought I was the only person on this tier of pettiness. 🤜🏿
I kill myself in Limsa bc of cringe, sting. don't judge me.
Also ty for the revive there.
Gg
Use Focus Taget!
Use it on the tank/main tank so you can keep an eye on where they are.
If you are solo tanking, use it on the healer so you can always know where they are.
On a healer, use it on the boss. That way, even if you've had to swap targets to heal, you can see how much your DoT timer still has on the boss and, more importantly, see what abilities the boss is casting and when they go off. SUPER important if you ever start doing Extremes or Savages to know what the boss is doing all the time, since some of those you really have to recognize the ability and start moving to the safe spot while the cast is still going.
@@SubduedRadicalgood point, thanks
I know what you *meant*, but I love the irony of saying "always tank North" and showing a clip where you are technically tanking "West". It's clearer to say always tank opposite to your party, or pull the boss and then walk through it to the other side.
The first person to turn on the stance being Main tank is a good rule of thumb, however if you're fully melded high ilvl and not level sync'd, you might find that even if you don't actively try, you steal aggro from the MT, at that point, might as well just remain the new MT. After all, no Normal diff content has *required* tank swaps, and in anything higher than extremes or savages you'll most likely have agreed to which tank you'll be before pulling (and *hopefully* not have such a large ilvl difference that it matters)
LOL i had no idea it was west, well i guess its more, straightforward from where u pull from with the majority of the time it'll be north
To add to this, if you are fighting a boss that always faces south during all of its mechanics, just tank the boss in that direction so melees dont have to worry about it spinning every 10 seconds.
Another note is use group cds at will during normal dungeons, especially on trash as it'll reduce the run time by a lot. Especially with a DRG :)
you're welcome for all my spare minions
thx oob
I have to critique your "Emote Spam" chapter. Simply unchecking the "Display log message" box is not guaranteed safety. The very first strike on my account was from emote spam. I made sure that I had unchecked the log message box before spamming. And you may be thinking "Well maybe it was an annoying emote with sound?" Nope. It was /point. Point does not produce sound on any race or gender. I received a week long ban for it. It would honestly be better to just say that the message log box is a lie and that spam is spam. Period.
lol something aint right, i've been spamming emotes since the beginning of time in limsa and i've never had issue, even with emote sounds, unless u are doing it to someone whos told u to stop then maybe u'd get in trouble but still seems really odd that spamming /point would get u in trouble
@StingcatKnight This also happened in Limsa. No one around me cared (to be fair, I was spaming for 5 mins straight, nonstop). When my friends found out, they also were also stumped.
But to this day, I still suspect there was a GM just hanging out, invisible. Decided to throw me in GM jail. When I was in there, they kept asking me if I knew why I was in there. I genuinely had no idea cause spaming is something I had done before. Why was it suddenly a problem?
nah in cities ppl self destruct on blue mage and sit there dead to afk just cause its funny they can always release when they wanna do stuf lol
hmmmmmm
one of my old servers cryptids did this xD
You forgot to say that tanks should pull boss to center of arena at the start and not just gap close and fuck all the melees with their openers and casters with having to move a lot
yea, kinda expect ppl to do that by default as well
I do want to clear up the misconception that no one ever uses the raid finder for end game content. People do absolutely make use of it over on the JP DCs. Queues are bustling on Tuesday reset for savage reclears, but it definitely dies off later in the week where your best bet is to then use party finder. Extreme queues are always populated since you can farm them, and Unreals to a lesser extent because people only want to run them twice a week but a lot of players still do those.
It's a culture difference that I've come to appreciate for it's convenience in letting me queue to farm extremes whenever I want. I can just requeue on the role that is mostly in need instead of committing to whatever role I join as in a party finder group.
oh wow really, what region do u play on?
@@StingcatKnight my main is currently on JP Elemental but I have alts across NA and OCE as well to play with friends.
Another interesting thing I've learned is that on the JP and OCE DCs (probably taken from the JP culture), for alliance raids specifically, there is an unspoken rule that the tank of alliance B will be the MT. Can be quite shocking for sprouts queuing into their first alliance raid 😱
Other than that, I think pretty much all the other unspoken rules in your video are common points across all the DCs. :)
@@AoyagiMei loool, thats interesting, thx for letting me know
Are you talking about EXs and Raids that aren't latest expansion content? Because if it's current content then yeah that's always true, but old content no.
@@RuneKatashima Raid finder only includes current patch/tier content (excluding ultimates), so yes.
Give your commendations to people that are nice or are trying hard to make the run go smoothly. Don't just reward the person that stood in everything and may not really be paying attention. Unless they're trying really hard.
that works too
I give it to whichever DPS remembers to limit break.
It’s also nice to actually give commendations. Regardless to whom exactly. A lot of people just jump out without doing that, and it often makes me (a healer) think that they somehow got pissed off and question if I did everything right. 😖
It's a shame that you can't give comms once someone has left.. I find I give it to whoever is left to give it to. I mean I'm happy to at least give it to someone but if someone who worked really hard has already left, it feels like a waste.
quick tip: if someone is standing on your target: NUM 0 is normally bound to target and then use the nearest NPC or interactable object in front of you, or for example in case you want to turn in lots of items at your Grand Company for seals, you can do that with the same button, without having to click each single item and confirm
another tip: hide your chat window with this combo on the numpad: 1 * 0
it reappears as soon as you press enter to input some text ;)
Also holding the x key makes your clicks ignore other players so you can easily click on objects or NPCs.
@@nytheris2848 very useful tip, thank you!
You can also turn off the option to target other players when there is an npc or object in view
For me, commendations go:
1. The nicest/most friendly or active one in the chat…. also anyone who is helpful since I am still a learning Sprout (Lv70)
2. If someone’s glam or portrait jumps out to me, they get it, unless they were rude
3. Healer, unless they were rude/not trying
In general, I just never give it to those who ignore CS cause they stink (and let me enjoy this content for the first time properly).
👍👍
1:00 That one lvl 70 alliance raid waterslide: "PepeLaugh, he doesn't know."
the wat?
When it comes to main tanking. If I'm in the mood for it I usually ask if I can be it. I feel that's much better overall imo then rushing it asap. Sometimes sprouts don't get a chance to ever main tank in stuff like trials
yea thats true, also feel like sprouts are more scared to tank even though theres not much going on
@@StingcatKnight true XD
I hate tanking 24 mans, if ya ask nobody replies, other 2 tanks just stand there doing nothing. So i pull as MT then one of them does Provoke off me....every. single. time.
Its like if you wanted MT then attack boss already smh. Or i see a Provoke contest between 2-3 of tanks and boss is turn like crazy, messing up melee dmg bonuses and cleaving parties. Its often a pain in the ass smh
@@HyouVizer lol real
@@HyouVizer One time I got dared to provoke the boss every time I can in Void Ark by my party. I think I pissed off the Gunbreaker.
With commendations, if the run is average I usually end up commending the tank or healer depending on my role but in rare cases I try to make a mental note to commend an exceptional DPS, like for example, there was a Pictomancer in a dungeon who soloed a boss at its last 1% of hp after me, the healer and the other dps died, then me and him proceeded to finish the last boss of the dungeon after the healer and other dps died again.
Other times, I'll just randomly commend DPS out of frustration when I feel the healer/tank let me down, or maybe I just choose to commend a dps just because I feel like it.
ö saw myself in this video, I've finally made it.
Hakala
Same 😂
@@apostelderdrachen which one is u?
@@StingcatKnight Hokko Thalius in the Pf part.
@@apostelderdrachen oh xd
Your tip about the LB just upset a huge number of smoothbrains that actively squander the LB to save it for the last boss when it is already 1 hit away from dying. Tank/Healer damage limit break options would be a godsend.
LOL
To be fair to the Melee LB crew, the 'easy to understand' numbers do favor it. It's *all* the nuance that ends up favoring the caster LB which means, as a WHM main, I really don't care either way.
Also of note: Caster LB > Ranged Physical LB on multiple targets. As a Melee LB, I use mine as early as possible on mid-bosses so that the team can build up the first bar again more quickly in the run. As a RDM, I am absolutely spamming Verblind as soon as that LB3 becomes available - melee be verdamned!
it can vary on the content and if the tank is chain pulling or not and the power of the party's own default aoe.
basically just be smart about when to use it
As an Elemental healer main player who occasionally play tank, i can confirm that JP DC tend to have B alliance to main tank. But its recommended to have your stance on in case the other tank couldnt pull the boss.
While its recommended to keep the boss facing north, some duties like Ultima Weapin and Ifrit would be facing other side and its okay as long as you face the boss away from the team
👍thats cool elemental do things differently, and it kinda make sense since B is the middle one
Maybe this is just a me thing but i hate it when people step in my character model (outside of combat) and just stand there blocking my character model. Idk why but it bothers me, but i always have to move away. GIve me some space.
yea, like they trying to invade ur personal space
“Usually when someone jumps in the same spot it indicates it’s a safe place to be”
My adhd: *clicks space bar over and over again to hear the clicking and eh cause I can’t sit still*
Boss: *kills my teammates for thinking they are safe*
Me: 💀😭😭
gg
Runs to the unsafe side on Levi/Sophie and pops surecast.
3:43 The first time I ever joined a FC I was checking out all the emotes and I didn't realize that it was spamming the chat with my emotes. I felt super embarrased because it was in their FC house as some others were saying hello to each other.
Oh, I'll tank the entire market on an item out of spite if I see a macro undercut after I price matched. There's a different set of rules and etiquette for crafters and the market board and we're bloodthirsty.
what does it mean to be use a macro undercut
very good one. this should be showed to everyone ^^
👍👍👍👍 thank u for the kind comment brothermen!
Good advice, thanks.
If your trying to sell things, undercut reasonably
Or
Sell it for the exact same as the one on the top of the page, that way people won't get the notification that someone is selling the item for cheaper by 1-whatever
I've sold atleast 20mil worth of things by doing this method, highest was calfrider bottoms
are u sure this works?, wait u get a notification when someone undercuts u?
@@StingcatKnight some people sell things, and have a mod that will notify them when someone undercut you
I just sell things at the same price as the top one(on top of the compare prices page) and then don't look till the next day, when that happened, I usually sell what I'm selling, those I don't I either adjust the price, (if it undercut by a good 4k-90k I'll just keep it where it was)
tank stance should be on by both tanks with the main tank using provoke, due to potential double tank busters targeting the first 2 players with highest enmity.
i usually turn it on after opener so i dont steal aggro
you're not wrong, but just for aggro sake at the start its best that they dont FIGHT FOR AGGRO at the start. boss will toss and turn. after their opener then they should have it on.
My personal rule is to turn it on after 5 to 10 seconds. That allows the MT if they're not DRK to get a head start and I (as DRK usually) can be reasonably behind in enmity without risking pulling aggro by accident. That was at least until the potency changes
Those usually don't occur right away so there's time to get the opening burst off first and then turn it on. Even with something like P9S where it's fairly early in the fight, having it on by the first Ravening still assures you're 2nd in aggro to get the Duality double TB.
Eh... if the off-tank keeps an eye on the party list, they can toggle their tank-stance on/off during the fight to ensure they stay in the number 2 spot.
Thats what i do when im playing a tank with a friend who mains tank. I'll toggle it on for like 4 attacks, then turn it back off, then watch the agro-bars/numbers in the party list as the fight goes on. Then if i see someone in the DPS/healer group starting to fill up their agro bar, i'll turn it back on for another 4 or 5 attacks.
What other unspoken rules have I missed out?
Never turn your back on a Lalafell.
@@mono4643 xD
If the dead person in town is a BLU mage, they want to be dead. No need to raise them.
@@MrLyramion hmm they always ask for a rez later
Do not join a PF stating a prog point that you haven't seen personally yet.
awesome vid!
TY!!!!
In #25 he says to let the person who pulled solo the boss on their own. This behavior is against the FFXIV's TOS and it's pretty obvious when you're doing it, so I would heavily recommend against doing that. You can and will eventually be reported for it. Once the boss is pulled, if you're not still watching the cutscene, you should be helping your party with fighting the boss regardless of whether the person who pulled it was being rude by doing so.
run it down 👍
I don’t mind being reported then 🤷🏻♂️ if someone is doing the fight for the first time they deserve to actually experience the whole encounter
Nope best to let them die
tbh if you or someone else has run a ready check, if there are people not ready you have good enough reason not to pull or help when people are pulling. You are technically recommended to have all people present to do the fight.
I'd take the report, thank you. If you pull while someone is watching a cutscene, then we let you die. Simple as that.
Wrong. You give commendation to the best portrait.
I undercut by 50% or more all the time and I don't think it's unreasonable at all. If some crafted item costs 50k gil and 5 seconds to make and the lowest price for it on the MB is 1M I will absolutely put it up for sale for something like 200k. That might be an extreme example but it does happen. I'd rather sell 5 thingies per day at a reasonable price than wait for a week for someone crazy enough to buy at the stupidly high price.
that must be rare, thats fair to do no problem
I'd buy it off you then undercut the highest price by 1 gil.
I just got the game for the first time a few days ago, and made myself a lalafel. I always kept wondering why people keep patting me before and/or after dungeons, trials or raids. 😂
👍everybody loves the cute lil kid in the group
it's also good luck
@@BlueBoxMadMan good luck charm indeed 👊👊
For the love Miqote Gods, slot a Materia into empty materia slot before joining a prog group. It's a common courtesy to at least try. Besides, materia are given out for free like candy. There's no reason not to slot it.
real
Most important: Rule 26 :D
/pet
3. Should probably note to use Party Finder or it just sounds like end game content is impossible to get into :P
6. Wouldn't left, center, and right be more accurate?
8. I give commendations in this order: Player who did exceptionally well (possibly saved the run) > new/struggling player who's trying/improving > Player who did decently > the other healer
10. Also, don't be afraid to ask. I've never seen anyone who asked be turned down.
11. Ironically, I rarely see MT as leader in end game content. It's always whoever created the PF group (and it's not like you queued in DF).
12. Haven't seen it, dunno why you'd perpetuate it, guessing it's only on certain datacenters/worlds, but I suppose it technically counts as an unspoken rule :D
17. Don't forget you can hold 'x' by default to make people untargetable! As a corollary rule, don't summon your chocobo while doing quests on patch day.
21. I dunno if this one qualifies as unspoken...
28 + 29: Possibly among the most spoken rules I know of :D
LOL I've been jumping in place to let people know where to go, and I never knew it was actually a thing XD
🫡 doing it right
for the fates i blue mage help, at least if the time is getting low so they get a complete
must be fast af with blue mage, i forget about that one
"If someone emotes at you then you always emote back."
Sorry, but that is bullshit and not an unspoken rule. You are not obliged to talk to or emote at anyone else.
thats nice of u
i mean if you dont want to, you dont have to. But there's no denying that it might lead to people thinking youre rude. If you dont care, good for you but some people might so its still good to know :)
Do not default pet the lala. We do not all appreciate it.
rare, i personally do not care that much
According to Aether at least, Lalas are food, not friends.
As far as reviving people; as soon as you get to the HW area, you can pick up Astrologian (AST) at level 30 and it has a raise. If you have EW, at level 70, you can pick up Sage (SGE) and it has a raise. So if you mainly play a tank or DPS Job, you an still get a raise that you can use if you ever find a KO person and want to help them out by swapping to the AST or SGE (if it's safe to do so/there aren't high level enemies right there that will kill you) to help out.
Not sure about the Limsa thing, I avoid Limsa, though I've noticed Hunt Trains occasionally someone will mention it. I think it's because /yell chat is yellow (hence pee) and /shout chat is not, since it's orange. People use /y for shorter range discussions, though, like when people were waiting on Chi to spawn in UT but didn't want to spoilers the zone for people still running the MSQ the first time.
Jump safe spot is super important. It's easier to hit jump a few times than type a message like "Safe spot is at [playername/locationrelativetoboss]". Just easier to quickly jump a couple times, and by the time you'd type out the message, most of the time, the mechanic/attack will have already gone off and it's too late.
And yes, Lalafells are instantly friends with other Lalafells. I'm not sure why, but it's amazing. : )
thx for watching :D
If you are dps’ing as a summoner, use quickcast before using raise. Less down time during raise so you can get back to DPS.
@@decepi be a red mage: they raise twice in fast order because the second one is instant :)
Me getting lots of commendations:
Before seeing this video- “I’m killing these dungeons. I’m a living god!”
After seeing this video- “…oh.”
Even so, I love how forgiving the community is for this game.
gg
Sorry but I give my com to those that do a good job and have proven to earn my recognition now I understand what you are saying but I’m not the type of person that gives out participation trophies but that’s just me I normally do give one out almost every time but it goes towards the one that did the best job during the run. As far as undercutting goes I agree people that massively drive down the price just suck because in the end you’re just forcing yourself to make less money and are ruining it for everyone else as well that are trying to sell the same thing.
thats fair for commendations, and the undercutting makes no sense sometimes, because MOST of the time it really does not sell faster unless u are undercutting across the datacentre
TBH I won't commend a Roulette/Deep Dungeon player who doesn't at least say hello or goodbye, unless they do something stupendously, exceptionally good. Saying hi should be a bare minimum for PUGs in any game. I make a point of both greeting and bidding farewell in every Roulette or multiplayer Deep Dungeon I run -- unless the whole rest of the team was so awful that I just want to slink out of the encounter in fuming silence.
i agree
"BE SOCIAL!!!! TALK TO ME!!!! DON'T JUST PLAY THE GAME, I WANT YOU TO INTERACT!!!!!!" damn bro, "bare minimum"? it's not that deep. I rarely say hi and only say gg when the duty was actually not a boring one, I'm not going to say gg in shit like praetorium lmao. To each their own I guess.
There are also folks on PS who may not have a keyboard on-hand to bother typing in chat. I don't particularly care if people chat or not, as long as they are competent.
in jp dc queueing endgame content is not impossible, including savage duty, altho there's some differences needed to mention.. jp dc has 1loot per person rule culture in pf so queueing raid finder means u agree for FFA by default... next u cant control the 4th dps job so by game default setting any role can fill 4th dps, u'll end up with most probably double caster... queueing raid finder for extreme trial is very much common tho...
thats very interesting
@@StingcatKnight forgot to mention, since there's multiple strats for certain fight, whichever macro posted 1st, the group will follow that strat.. so it's best people know how to do every strat before queueing raid finder...
Lmao... Giving comms to the person struggling the most I think it's actually bm hahaha, at least all people I know use it as a way to say "yeah we saw you die 70 times" xdddsd
xD
you can call out a tank for not tanking, a healer for not healing... but if you call out a dps for not dpsing you get to map the realm with a gm
well well well, you are right but u can only tell if a dps is doing their job with 3rd party software so 🤷
@@StingcatKnight not always. when i spam dungeons with friends as tank/heal/dps and some runs take 50% longer than others, with the only variable being the 2nd dps, we know.
On the dps section at 3:33, what sort of ACT are you using? I would like to use it for my own improvements.
its called MopiMopi
@@StingcatKnight Thank you.
I wish every Alliance Raid player who deliberately messes up their way markers to fck with other players a very I Hope You Lose Every Housing and Firmament Lottery you sign up for
LOL WHO DOES THAT
"If you see a lalafel, always pet the lalafel"
Yes please pet me
/pet
24 man alliance raids yes ty pointing this out ✨️
all of them are like that.
A = left
B = middle
C = right
All from mobs how they're placed to various things one team needs to interact with yet so many stand with the wrong team being out of range for their own party's buffs and heals etc
It also helps to use the A B C markers.
I ended up not with my team once because I was watching the cutscene (first time through) and by the time it ended I had like 2 seconds before it sealed and it shucked me with group a :' ) (was group c) I was confused and worried (since the video I watched made it abundantly clear I needed to be with my group) but it seemed to go fine.
World of Darkness:
A = Adds, B = Belly, C = Chains :D
@@TimelordSnowyYea, the game will auto-plant people into group "A"s area if you go into those via the "teleport to the boss" thing... its ok if one or 2 people get shifted around, but if 5 or 6 do, its a wype.. but then its not YOUR fault if that happens, its the impatient asshats that triggered the fight without waiting for you to finnish the cutsceen's fault :)
FFXIV has one of the most considerate Communities for new players (we will turn on a toxic player like a pack of starving wolves to protect our Sprouts), but we DO have that one % of peopel who are asshats... EVERY MMO will have them. We just dont tollerate them :D
People Always... ALWAYS stand right against the npc and portal or gates that required activation and I don't understand why... I never stand infront of things that required clicking. Imagine playing controller and 1000 people standing right at the npc for you to select. That's annoying af
This was damn good!
Tho I would hold back on petting a lalafell because some of them take real umbridge to it. (tho not me if I'm glammed as lala, pls pet away)
aw i've not met a lala that takes offense, but honestly i mostly play lalafell, better than being slapped!
Actually, not all Lalafel like to be petted. I have several friends who get really tired of people treating them as 'children' simply because they are small and cute. However, if a lala is putting in a clear effort to be cute, then pets are probably welcome.
well technically, lalas are imaged after children, i personally don't care that much 👍
P-p-p-p-pissssss chat!
welcome to limsa
insanely helpful ty
thx for watching brothermen
definitely DO NOT AGREE with #20, undercut by big margins and stop being a baby.
if it helps u sell faster maybe, but all u gotta do most of the time is to undercut by data centre price not just cut ur own profit by like 50% for no reason
the thing on emoting back isn't even like common etiquette, it doesn't matter if you do or don't, same thing with commodations, and the same for saying hi or bye in dungeons.
u telling me u dont say hi or gg at all?
@@StingcatKnight i dont. and i have been in groups without saying a single word and still getting commedations.
There are some ppl that just care to clear the fight then done, so yeah it's not always be case to said greet and goodbye in every duty. As long as it went well
@@zanelslayer2476 Yeah, half of the time I forget and half of the time I just don't bother to do so.
You mentioned to give commendations... How do I give commendations? It has never showed up for me.
bottom right side at the end of instance
I do #5 soooooooo often every time i see even a single "Sprout" in a dungeon/raid with me XD
#13 Yup.. especially if you are a healer (or a new healer) and for some reason forgot you had Regen on your tank when they went to pull a new pack of mobs in a dungeon. That Regen effect will 'instantly' cause aggro to shift to you, so go hug your Tank so they can take the agro from you without having to chase you down :D
#26 ive been punting them...... guess ive been doing it wrong? (Kidding of course! though i do have an actual 'punt' macro i made as a joke with friends who play Potato's :D )
#30 I may be wrong.. but i THINK that only counts for 'your' client. If your wanting to not spam the chat at all, typing the emote command with "Motion" after it, does the emote without any chat-spam. ie: /wave motion
As of Patch 6.2, Regen doesn't generate enmity except on the initial cast, so if you regen before they pull the mobs won't go after you anymore.
Just to add, if you drop a Regen on your tank just *after* they pull, you'll immediately have all the enemies in that pack in your list of targets, and can smoothly scroll down the list dotting or direct damaging until someone needs a heal.
> That Regen effect will 'instantly' cause aggro to shift to you, so go hug your Tank so they can take the agro from you without having to chase you down :D
Stop posting because you clearly have no idea what you're saying. Be an insufferable Burger King crown somewhere else.
Excellent video! For Commendations I wish I could commend myself because I have the sexiest portrait in the duty 🥰
sus
Brothermen assemble !
LOL
I roll up, dps tank the worst satasha ive ever run in my life, commend the black mage, leave
lol
You migjt need to explain what piss chat is to me? Played the game for 10 years and never heard of that
LOL, cause yell chat is yellow, and it resembles pee i guess so ppl always spam it in eu
Yeah. It's the yell chat. The default color is an bright yellow. So, it is called the piss chat. I joke and say "stop talking in piss and shout like proper people".
lol its the /yell chat channel i beleieve.. its short-ranged, but longer-ranged than /say chat is. Its called "piss chat" because the default color is neon-yellow for the text XD
Don’t pull more trash adds or the boss if you’re not the tank it’s disrespectful
ima disagree with that, melee can use arms length to hugely mitigate trash mobs and if healer wants to pull they are free to do so imo since they confident in healing the tank regardless
casual lul
2:tank north, not always, E12s p2 essy to bring boss south and party goes behind then drag the boss all the way north for first mechanic. Infact you should this rule with "never pull a boss with a gapcloser" had some annoying GNB in Barb Ex who insisted on MT even though i was bis and so he struggled to keep aggro but either they gapclosed in and didn't centre boss and made melee miss a gcd just argh
that seems to be a rare case O: i never did e12s, and certainly using gapclose to pull is bad idea
more like knowledge then rules.
1:56 is a lie at least on EU center. nobody dose that there
I'd say more rules than knowledge
You've never seen somebody get rez in the open world?
@@StingcatKnight if you could read you see what i wrote and still more knowledge then rules
@@karmaspcs Okay 👍👍
I dont watch youtube videos before boss fights. Im old fashioned, i prefer to play my video games. Watching a youtube video doesnt make you a good player. It makes you copycat. Learn it on your own
That's why I get so many commendations - I suck! :o
LOL or ur character is hot
it's more like an etiquette video, cuz idk, i am lala but i am not unto emotes
I guess that’s kinda what unspoken rules are
Lala have no rules bruh🥲😂😂😂😂😂
YOU TELL EM!!!
don't forget to never dance in the thornmarch , it psychologically hurts the moogles. If you dance, (Seriously.. Don't.) then you might die instantly. Never join free companies. Embrace chaos. Call those around you "Steve" even if they aren't named steve.
so.... are u steve? 🫣
@@StingcatKnight no, I am Stephen
Shut up, Dave.
The last one about the emote spam is wrong btw. It doesn't display the messages for you anymore, but everyone else will still get the emote spam in chat.
huuh really?
no, i dont think this is true.
No they will not
can confirm this commenter is incorrect
i am yet to see piss chat, is this in every world? XD
in everywhere that i visited in eu limsa yes xd, but if its outside limsa then maybe not
lol its the /yell chat channel i beleieve.. its short-ranged, but longer-ranged than /say chat is. Its called "piss chat" because the default color is neon-yellow for the text XD
I would say 3 or more mobs for the ranged lb3.
Wait I just came back to the game and have been getting flooded with commendations. Now I'm trying to figure out if it's cause the damn symbol by my name or because I fkin suck 😒 🤣
Also came back as a Hroth. I seem to get pets a lot too 😆
hmmm i also like to commend sprouts so i wouldnt worry about it too much xd
no pet
why
...how do my kupos die in town
gg
Do not talk about World of Warcraft, especially in public chat
lul
Some of these are the reason why I really despise this game sometimes. I understand learning the ins and outs of extreme and above, but why tf I gotta study up on every single dungeon and trial before playing them. Kinda ruins the spectacle and the story.
U don’t
@@StingcatKnight I run tank and don't have a party, last few times I didn't, burger king crowns got pissy.
Seriously, everything that isn't extreme or higher must be rushed, you waste a minute of a FFXIV players time and you really feel it.
I imagine that's why they changed Castrum and Praetorium. Back when the cutscenes were skippable and it was 8 man, fuck you if you were new and wanted to enjoy the story! They'd rush off as fast as they could absolutely ruining it for new players.
So, yes, I've had to learn each and every dungeon to a degree I can speedrun it less I get a pissy mentor.
@@tenthirtyseven-v1study up on what dungeon? They’re all pretty much the same. None of the mechanics are so difficult you can’t adjust as soon as you see them. Same with normal trial and raids. Honestly only things you need to study before hand are extremes, savages, unreals, and ultimates. All the ‘casual’ content can be cleared the first time you see it with no problem
@@Someone_3lse You don't seem to understand. No shit you can clear most normal content by just doing it, that's all incredibly easy, frankly too easy but that's another story. Problem is when you get patnered up with most long time FFXIV players. Don't pull the entire dungeon? They'll force you to. Step down the wrong path for two seconds? Their impatient ass will ignore you and rush into the next pack. Not playing perfectly? "Hey would you like some tanking tips?"
You have to study each dungeon as you are essentially expected to speedrun them. You MIGHT get away with a normal run if you're new to the instance, otherwise forget it.
If I go into a dungeon or trial without in depth knowledge, it is a skewed coin flip to whether a burger king crown, parser or a lifer will get irate and start acting like a baby.
@@tenthirtyseven-v1I hate to say it but if that’s happening to you all the time then that’s literally a skill issue. If it’s just wall to wall pulling stuff then that’s an NA thing. It’s never gonna change. JP however takes things slower. It’s really just a culture thing. You shouldn’t have to study on dungeons or any non extreme+ content unless ur really struggling. All in all if you play on a non JP server and are doing casual content, people are gonna want to go fast. If you don’t like it the just don’t tank tbh.
with comms i give it to whom ever did above and beyond in a duty.
not the screwup floor tanking 90% of the fight...
if i see Lalafail i drop kick em :p
🫨🫨🫨 NOT THE DROP KICK WTH
I always slap lalafells 💅🏻✨
😠😠 dont u dare
If u don't like someone in ur party, as a healer, rescue it to a tasty aoe or tankbuster as many times as possible. Joke :3 (or not)
lool
lmao nah
Okay
Nah man always give the commendation to the healer, unless the healer sucked. Then, give it to the tank, especially if the healer died mid boss and the tank managed to pull the team through regardless.
Exceptions: If the DPS was funny or friendly and the others were dead silent, or if a RDM or SMN raise saved the party from a wipe.
Also, if your DPS initiates aggro and you're the tank, let them die before you reclaim aggro. Only exceptions are if the innocent healer starts taking aggro trying to heal the impatient DPS, in which case save them, or if it's obvious the DPS didn't actually mean to pull. Make sure the DPS was one of those people that just like to initiate assuming the tank will come by and save them. Teach them they are wrong.
that could work too for commendations, i personally dont see much problem of dps doing that as its just free mitigation in my eyes and they can pop arms length for even more mitigation
these are some mid ass rules
I will pull the boss anyway as a tank. They can watch the cutscene then get pulled after they’re done. If you want to let the tank solo the boss then gl completing the dungeon on time.
are we talking about a different kind of dungeon? you must be really fun to play with...
@@StingcatKnight yeah I get told I am quite a bit actually. I help quite often and literally give new players I’m helping a ton of Gil just to give them a head start in the game. If it’s someone else tanking, especially a new player, I stay quiet and wait. So you can go ahead and stop with the assumption.
Barely anyone wants to wait on a cutscene they’ve ran a dungeon for over 100+ times now.
Ironically enough the ones that aren’t fun to play with are those that talk like you.
@@SushiBurritoPapi i love it
"completing the dungeon on time" what do you legit mean by this? I've literally never seen any party even get close to running out the timer on a dungeon, its never that stringent.
Also, once had a tank with your perspective abandon when everybody else let the sprout watch their cutscene, so we just let dragoon keep aggro and did the later part of the dungeon with 3 people. gl making friends when you refuse to follow general rules of etiquette, a decent party *can* both survive and clear with or without you.
Bro it's not that deep, you act like you have to wait 30 minutes for someone to watch a cutscene lmao.
Great tips for beginners and for those returning to the game after a long absence. Thanks!
hope it helped!
3:13 i can confirm ppl still do this alot like 8/10 times and its genuinely sad
If im in an Aliance raid and i see sprouts around watching cutsceens at the beginning, i'll actually type:
/a "We have sprouts with us, please be kind and wait at cutsceenes"
Both the Instant the barrier drops and /a chat becomes available, AND before the final fight (which generally has the cutsceen at it).