You are more efficient than my Rally. I saw 1.9 mi/KWh running into the wind in Nebraska. Wind was at least 25 mph. I had one leg in that trip that I needed to stretch to keep a comfortable buffer. Just slowing down has a significant impact, and I am happy that is a thing. ETA: A brief check with ABRP suggests I would need the same stops even with a little more range.
My Mach-E will get down to the 1.8-1.9 mi/kWh range when running the heat in the winter time and going 75-80mph. Thankfully it was warm enough and a good chunk of the drive was slower speeds I was able to get decent efficiency.
Good point @ ye olde traveler, the worst efficiency I have seen in our Mach-E was on the day that the hurricane was going through Houston and East Texas this summer and we were driving from the Austin area to DFW. I was getting an extremely stiff headwind being that we we on the backside of the hurricane, even though we were in clear air. Efficiency IIRC was down to 2.1, I've slept since then. I had to slow down to make it to Fort Worth with a comfortable buffer.
Glad you could go from Boise to Reno. We could not take our Mach-E Standard Range RWD from Las Vegas to Reno via 95 to Tonopah then on to Reno. There was charging along the way but some of the location were not working and haven't been in MONTHS, yet routing still shows these broken units as available charging options, then there weren't many Tesla chargers available for us to use with an adapter along our route. Of course if we would have made it to Reno we would have no problem charging there. EV Charging companies need to fix the lack of charging ability on that 95 corridor between Vegas and Reno because unless you have a Tesla or an ev that can get minimum 400 miles of range you are just plain out of luck. Sad. We needed up taking our ICE truck for the trip.
Wow, yeah, I just looked up your route. Basically zero fast charging along there. I hope Tesla can add a few adapter compatible stations along that route. It looks like it's just V2 Superchargers, which can't support the adapter. Even for Tesla drivers, the V2's aren't ideal since it's slower charging speeds and shares power when there's a car charging next to you.
@ Annette, I would have done the same taking our ICE vehicle on a recent trip from the northern Austin suburbs to a campground south of Junction, TX but it's intermittently going into transmission limp mode, which locks it into 3rd gear only, which at 55mph is about 3500 RPM LOL. You can reset it usually by pulling over and turning the car off and back on, but I wasn't going to risk it with something worse happening. So we made the standard battery AWD Mach-E work for the trip, there are options in Junction for charging, but it wasn't ideal. When we replace the ICE truck with an EV, we're going to want something with more highway range. Might go PHEV. I just wish the PHEV options had more like 100 miles of EV only range, that would meet our around-town needs a lot better so that we would rarely use the ICE engine.
We have the same car, AWD standard battery, ours is a 2023 Premium. Took a trip recently to go camping from the northern suburbs of Austin to a campground south of Junction, TX that is similar in distance to your first leg from Boise to McDermott, with some climbing in the Texas hill country and zero DCFC options inbetween home and Junction. Unfortunately I made a couple of tactical errors, I departed with only 81% SOC from home because I had an appointment prior to departure, should have taken my ICE vehicle to that so I could depart home at near 100%. Also on the way there we left later than intended and only had an hour of sunlight buffer upon arrival at the campground, so we left home with the intent bypassing Junction and going direct to the campground so we would not have to set up the tent in the dark. Knowing the situation, I also slowed my highway speed between Mason, TX and the destination to keep my buffer around 20 miles. Was going 60 in a 75 but it wasn't really an issue because US377 has very few vehicles, probably only saw about 5 or 6 other vehicles in the entire stretch of 40ish miles. After setting up our camp site, we went back into to town to charge and eat and we arrived at the charger at 4% SOC which was a little on the low side. The car started to warn me that there were no chargers in range lol. Unfortunately Junction doesn't have great options, the Tesla station there is not compatible with the Mach-E, the Electrify America is at a hotel which is not within walking distance of any restaurants and the 3rd option is Shell Recharge, which is what we chose since we could walk to a restaurant. Unfortunately I had to try 4 different chargers before I found one that worked, that was a little anxiety inducing considering our SOC. I saw on your McDermott stop that there was Recharge as well as Tesla, the Tesla chargers are a much better option as I've had problems with Recharge in other locations as well. On the way back home two days later, I charged at Electrify America to 92% as we already had lunch, and that was plenty to get back to town and even do some driving around before getting home. One thing I noted about your trip that I didn't think was true was that you got charging in the 30s at one EA station, you were saying that the car was too hot to receive a good charging speed. I live in Central Texas and normal summertime temps are 95-105. I get the same DCFC speeds that I do when the temperatures are much more moderate. Charging speeds are based more on SOC than outside temperatures. I think that charger just had an issue, might have helped to move to a different one. These are not Nissan Leafs, they have active cooling.
Thanks for sharing! I'm glad you made it, 4% is a little close. As for the heat, I haven't had problems in the past charging in the heat either, so I'm also not 100% sure that's what it was. I was at a Tesla charger for this stop when it happened, so I didn't suspect it was the charger. Since I was in the car with the AC on and had been fast charging for a while at full speed for the car (80-90kW), the heat was my only explanation. Since I had enough charge to continue on I didn't try another charger: ua-cam.com/video/eJWZvmGS-7w/v-deo.htmlsi=rJsvYg3zNmHltVfk&t=900
Thanks! I think about ~40% of the trip. Winnemucca to Reno was mostly Bluecruise since that's all mapped highways. Boise to Winnemucca not as much since 95 isn't a mapped highway. It still does adaptive cruise and lane centering with hands on the wheel. But, the roads through that section are so straight you don't need to move the wheel much so the system will regularly beep and tell you to move the wheel, so I actually turned off lane centering for most of that stretch.
Also - the cost of your trip all-in is about half of what it would cost for gas to drive my older Lincoln Navigator with the 5.4 V8 the same distance at Texas gas prices. I figured $3 per gallon but probably more out west there.
Are you calculating one way or roundtrip? My cost was the roundtrip cost. So $95 for 868 miles. At $3 a gallon that's 31.6 gallons of gas, so you'd have to get ~27.5 MPG for the same cost. I'm guessing the Navigator gets closer to 20 MPG?
@@studzstudios I meant gas for the Navigator would cost twice as much as your all in, bottom line cost. I took another run at it though. The Navi will get 14-15 driving in the mountains per my experience at 70-75, but if I limit the speed to 60-65, mileage is much better under all conditions. For this trip, I can probably get 18, which would allow me to make zero stops between Boise and Reno, using 24 gallons out of the 28 gallon tank. At a gas cost at Costco of $2.96 in Boise and $3.95 in Reno, that would yield a gas cost of $165.60 assuming a total usage of 48 gallons. But that's very best case scenario, and driving 5-15 mph below the posted speed limits. Your all in cost of $95 is roughly equivalent to a gas car getting 31.5mpg, but that's only if you can fill up the ICE at cheap Costco gas prices. I'm assuming gas is pretty expensive in BFE places like Winemucca. A lot of Americans drive SUVs and trucks that don't get anywhere near 31.5mpg on the highway. I'm sure there's some Civic or Corolla owner ready to tell me I'm wrong and they would get 40mpg on this trip. But here in Texas every other vehicle is an HD truck and we all know those are using a lot of gas. Even the car our Mach-E replaced, a 2018 Mitsubishi Outlander, would not get 31.5 on this trip, and it was fairly efficient for a compact SUV. I'm guessing 26-27 driving the speed limit, 24-25 if going 75-80
Ah, I misunderstood. Thanks for the clarification! I think you're right most SUVs would get mid-20's on this trip. It also helped that I got a free charge while in Reno and the cost to charge before/after the trip at home is very low.
I have a video about that as well! ua-cam.com/video/26HhfjUuxR4/v-deo.html It's a Veepeak OBD Adapter on Amazon: www.amazon.com/Veepeak-OBDCheck-Bluetooth-Diagnostic-Supports/dp/B073XKQQQW?ref_=ast_sto_dp
You are more efficient than my Rally. I saw 1.9 mi/KWh running into the wind in Nebraska. Wind was at least 25 mph.
I had one leg in that trip that I needed to stretch to keep a comfortable buffer. Just slowing down has a significant impact, and I am happy that is a thing.
ETA: A brief check with ABRP suggests I would need the same stops even with a little more range.
My Mach-E will get down to the 1.8-1.9 mi/kWh range when running the heat in the winter time and going 75-80mph. Thankfully it was warm enough and a good chunk of the drive was slower speeds I was able to get decent efficiency.
Good point @ ye olde traveler, the worst efficiency I have seen in our Mach-E was on the day that the hurricane was going through Houston and East Texas this summer and we were driving from the Austin area to DFW. I was getting an extremely stiff headwind being that we we on the backside of the hurricane, even though we were in clear air. Efficiency IIRC was down to 2.1, I've slept since then. I had to slow down to make it to Fort Worth with a comfortable buffer.
Glad you could go from Boise to Reno. We could not take our Mach-E Standard Range RWD from Las Vegas to Reno via 95 to Tonopah then on to Reno. There was charging along the way but some of the location were not working and haven't been in MONTHS, yet routing still shows these broken units as available charging options, then there weren't many Tesla chargers available for us to use with an adapter along our route. Of course if we would have made it to Reno we would have no problem charging there. EV Charging companies need to fix the lack of charging ability on that 95 corridor between Vegas and Reno because unless you have a Tesla or an ev that can get minimum 400 miles of range you are just plain out of luck. Sad. We needed up taking our ICE truck for the trip.
Wow, yeah, I just looked up your route. Basically zero fast charging along there. I hope Tesla can add a few adapter compatible stations along that route. It looks like it's just V2 Superchargers, which can't support the adapter. Even for Tesla drivers, the V2's aren't ideal since it's slower charging speeds and shares power when there's a car charging next to you.
@ Annette, I would have done the same taking our ICE vehicle on a recent trip from the northern Austin suburbs to a campground south of Junction, TX but it's intermittently going into transmission limp mode, which locks it into 3rd gear only, which at 55mph is about 3500 RPM LOL. You can reset it usually by pulling over and turning the car off and back on, but I wasn't going to risk it with something worse happening. So we made the standard battery AWD Mach-E work for the trip, there are options in Junction for charging, but it wasn't ideal. When we replace the ICE truck with an EV, we're going to want something with more highway range. Might go PHEV. I just wish the PHEV options had more like 100 miles of EV only range, that would meet our around-town needs a lot better so that we would rarely use the ICE engine.
We have the same car, AWD standard battery, ours is a 2023 Premium. Took a trip recently to go camping from the northern suburbs of Austin to a campground south of Junction, TX that is similar in distance to your first leg from Boise to McDermott, with some climbing in the Texas hill country and zero DCFC options inbetween home and Junction.
Unfortunately I made a couple of tactical errors, I departed with only 81% SOC from home because I had an appointment prior to departure, should have taken my ICE vehicle to that so I could depart home at near 100%. Also on the way there we left later than intended and only had an hour of sunlight buffer upon arrival at the campground, so we left home with the intent bypassing Junction and going direct to the campground so we would not have to set up the tent in the dark. Knowing the situation, I also slowed my highway speed between Mason, TX and the destination to keep my buffer around 20 miles. Was going 60 in a 75 but it wasn't really an issue because US377 has very few vehicles, probably only saw about 5 or 6 other vehicles in the entire stretch of 40ish miles.
After setting up our camp site, we went back into to town to charge and eat and we arrived at the charger at 4% SOC which was a little on the low side. The car started to warn me that there were no chargers in range lol. Unfortunately Junction doesn't have great options, the Tesla station there is not compatible with the Mach-E, the Electrify America is at a hotel which is not within walking distance of any restaurants and the 3rd option is Shell Recharge, which is what we chose since we could walk to a restaurant. Unfortunately I had to try 4 different chargers before I found one that worked, that was a little anxiety inducing considering our SOC. I saw on your McDermott stop that there was Recharge as well as Tesla, the Tesla chargers are a much better option as I've had problems with Recharge in other locations as well.
On the way back home two days later, I charged at Electrify America to 92% as we already had lunch, and that was plenty to get back to town and even do some driving around before getting home.
One thing I noted about your trip that I didn't think was true was that you got charging in the 30s at one EA station, you were saying that the car was too hot to receive a good charging speed. I live in Central Texas and normal summertime temps are 95-105. I get the same DCFC speeds that I do when the temperatures are much more moderate. Charging speeds are based more on SOC than outside temperatures. I think that charger just had an issue, might have helped to move to a different one. These are not Nissan Leafs, they have active cooling.
Thanks for sharing! I'm glad you made it, 4% is a little close.
As for the heat, I haven't had problems in the past charging in the heat either, so I'm also not 100% sure that's what it was. I was at a Tesla charger for this stop when it happened, so I didn't suspect it was the charger. Since I was in the car with the AC on and had been fast charging for a while at full speed for the car (80-90kW), the heat was my only explanation. Since I had enough charge to continue on I didn't try another charger: ua-cam.com/video/eJWZvmGS-7w/v-deo.htmlsi=rJsvYg3zNmHltVfk&t=900
Great content once again! How much of your trip % did you use bluecruise?
Thanks! I think about ~40% of the trip. Winnemucca to Reno was mostly Bluecruise since that's all mapped highways. Boise to Winnemucca not as much since 95 isn't a mapped highway. It still does adaptive cruise and lane centering with hands on the wheel. But, the roads through that section are so straight you don't need to move the wheel much so the system will regularly beep and tell you to move the wheel, so I actually turned off lane centering for most of that stretch.
Also - the cost of your trip all-in is about half of what it would cost for gas to drive my older Lincoln Navigator with the 5.4 V8 the same distance at Texas gas prices. I figured $3 per gallon but probably more out west there.
Are you calculating one way or roundtrip? My cost was the roundtrip cost. So $95 for 868 miles. At $3 a gallon that's 31.6 gallons of gas, so you'd have to get ~27.5 MPG for the same cost. I'm guessing the Navigator gets closer to 20 MPG?
@@studzstudios I meant gas for the Navigator would cost twice as much as your all in, bottom line cost.
I took another run at it though. The Navi will get 14-15 driving in the mountains per my experience at 70-75, but if I limit the speed to 60-65, mileage is much better under all conditions. For this trip, I can probably get 18, which would allow me to make zero stops between Boise and Reno, using 24 gallons out of the 28 gallon tank. At a gas cost at Costco of $2.96 in Boise and $3.95 in Reno, that would yield a gas cost of $165.60 assuming a total usage of 48 gallons. But that's very best case scenario, and driving 5-15 mph below the posted speed limits.
Your all in cost of $95 is roughly equivalent to a gas car getting 31.5mpg, but that's only if you can fill up the ICE at cheap Costco gas prices. I'm assuming gas is pretty expensive in BFE places like Winemucca.
A lot of Americans drive SUVs and trucks that don't get anywhere near 31.5mpg on the highway. I'm sure there's some Civic or Corolla owner ready to tell me I'm wrong and they would get 40mpg on this trip. But here in Texas every other vehicle is an HD truck and we all know those are using a lot of gas.
Even the car our Mach-E replaced, a 2018 Mitsubishi Outlander, would not get 31.5 on this trip, and it was fairly efficient for a compact SUV. I'm guessing 26-27 driving the speed limit, 24-25 if going 75-80
Ah, I misunderstood. Thanks for the clarification! I think you're right most SUVs would get mid-20's on this trip. It also helped that I got a free charge while in Reno and the cost to charge before/after the trip at home is very low.
Nice video. What obd are you using and where did you get it.
I have a video about that as well! ua-cam.com/video/26HhfjUuxR4/v-deo.html
It's a Veepeak OBD Adapter on Amazon: www.amazon.com/Veepeak-OBDCheck-Bluetooth-Diagnostic-Supports/dp/B073XKQQQW?ref_=ast_sto_dp
EVs aren't cars
Sorry, what do you mean by this?