Thanks for sharing your V4 charger experience. Much easier than the select V3 stations with the Magic Dock. Seems Tesla is only installing new V4 stations at this point, the V3 stations aren't being retrofited. Hopefully soon, as it will be trouble with the short cords when all the CCS vehicles gets access to the full network shortly. Your V4 experience was great.
@@YeOldeTraveller I am not 100% sure, but I do not think Tesla is upgrading sites. Instead their focus seems to be on adding new sites under the thought that more is more at this juncture. I may be wrong, but that is the feel I am getting. Thx 4 watching.
Your information is also useful for Mustang Mach-e owners as the charge port is in the same location. I note over 45 Magicdock locations reported in Plugshare which is easy as you can just look for CCS on the Tesla network. For V3+, I filter for over 160 KW (one could use 200 KW just as well) on the Tesla network and the Tesla Fast connector. Looking forward to trying with the adapter once I get mine.
Nice to see a V4 dispenser setup charging a CCS car with fender port location. My CCS cars will be fine on the V4 setup. Too bad there aren't more V4 MD locations.
I was introduced to this one by my Bro-in-Law who passed by there last week. I did not know there was a Magic Dock location close by before then. Was great to be able to go shoot a vid there this morning. Thx 4 watching.
Leave it to Tesla to make a better charging experience than GM's own partnerships. My only gripe is that they haven't turned on the credit card screen yet. Having an app is a problem for all of the charging systems out there. Travelling I've been in many situations where the mobile data isn't working. The app should be a secondary payment system not primary like in every other aspect of life and fueling systems. I heard that GM is finally getting charge payments built in so it bills the car/ccard automatically. That would be nice. I believe that my Tesla gets charged even if it doesn't have Internet. Once it gets Internet the payment goes through in the car not the charger. That needs to be the standard.
IMHO better is a relitive term. If the goal is to survive on an EV road trip, Tesla is "better". If the goal is to enjoy an EV road trip, I go Pilot/Flying J. I ate meat loaf there on Friday. It was delicious. I had a side of mac-n-cheese and green beans. The places are awsome. Open 24/7 with full amenities & free wifi, not to mention window squeegees. Anyway, thx for watching and taking the time to post a comment. I agree autocharge on SC would be a dream. Hope that is a thing.
Thanks, Walter! I was hoping you'd be able to confirm whether the Magic Dock adapters on the V4 Superchargers are actually rated for 500 A, as some have claimed; however, this doesn't look like you were pulling any more power than you could have on the 350 A limited V3 Superchargers. I wonder whether you got a peek at the dispenser labels, which would confirm the peak voltage and amperage of the V4 Magic Dock adapters.
It sadly escaped my attention. I knew going in I was not making a site visit video with all the trimmings. I was thinking of going back and doing so at a later time. It was in a pretty nice location & about a mile + off the interstate, so not too bad. However, I did not check the specifics of the voltage. I guess I should of in retrospect. Thx for watching. It was a fun trip and exciting times in which we live. I still think for me SC will be a second options to EVgo and even EA depending. I also favor Buc-ee's for dietary reasons.
@@thenetworkarchitectchannel No worries. Hopefully, you can have the chance to check again soon. I know V4 uses beefier cables, and people have been reporting >150 kW through Magic Dock.
Nice to see v4 dispensers in the wild!! Takes away all the offset parking headaches. Took a look in the Tesla app, but haven’t seen any clues on whether a site has v4 dispensers. Once v4 power supply is installed, the site should state the higher kWh rating. For now, not sure if the app will ID a v4 dispenser on v3 supply site. Thanks for the look at the v4 dispenser experience!
I hope we see these V4 + Magic Dock stations all over the US. Since Tesla is willing to sell them, I hope the other charge point operators consider using these. With their 650 amp continuous cable rating, reliable operation and low cost, I hope they push the other charging equipment manufacturers to do better and give charge point operators a killer new option.
Thanks for the video, looking to buy a lyriq and this was a big question I had, you seem like an expert and I’m wondering if you know the charging speed difference between Tesla and lyriq. I believe Tesla can go up to 250kw an hr but not sure what lyriq is limited to? Does the charge port option on the car matter? I believe they offer 2 versions on the lyriq. Also if I buy an adapter can i use a v3 station currently or will the Tesla app only allow v4 for non Tesla’s?Thanks and I hope you are able to respond
LYRIQ can charge 70 kWhs in 33 minutes, which is pretty good. Its top rate is 190 kW, but it stays above 100 kW further then Teslas. The bigger difference though is the LYRIQ has a 102 kWh battery pack. This is not comparable to the Mod3 or ModY. It is closer to the ModX which is what it competes against. However, it costs less than the X and has more to offer. I hope this answers your qestions.
Im confused by your comments...... I. currently own a Tesla model 3, Im about to by a 2024 Lyriq. I don't see on my Tesla phone app where to add a non- Tesla car for charging ? Please advise
I have a Lyriq Lux 3. I'm waiting for the Lectron Vortex and the compatible Tesla Superchargers to attempt to Charge my Lyriq on a supercharger. Till now I didn't consider the issues with charging on their cable length.
I don’t think it will be much of an issue. Right now we r all overthinking. When we get out there 4 real, I but it’s a nothing burger, but time will tell
Im confused! Should I wait until the 2025 Lyriq is available with NACS charging or do I buy a 2024. If I buy a 2024 what adapter do you recommend I buy to use at a Tesla charging station?
Waiting or buying now is a personal decision. I am an EV enthusiast so for me it makes sense to transition to reap the benefits (faster, quieter, more reliable, more convenient since I can fuel in my garage instead of at a gas station). I love the reliability aspect. They never break down. Super nice to have a reliable car.
There is a new V3 location near me but when I use the app to show non Tesla locations I get nothing in the entire Austin TX area, any ideas? Plus do you need to do anything in the application to add the Lyriq? Thanks
No additional action in app to add LYRIQ needed. The app will only show Magic Dock locations currently and there are only about 50 in the entire SC network, so likely you do not have any near you. Hope this helps, but ping back in if not. Thx 4 watching.
Thanks for the response. I thought that was the way it was supposed to work but you mentioned also just version 3 chargers so I thought you were saying those would also work, assuming you had an adapter. @@thenetworkarchitectchannel
the GM adapter is coming out sometime in the next month or two we think. I did not mention that time frame in the video because I am thinking this video will become a handy reference for when things open at SC locations and wanted to obfuscate dates. I will make a second video to pair with this one once the GM adapter is available. Sorry for the confusion.
Hi Walter, I didn't think any V4 post Magic Docks were enabled yet? Are they enabled for just GM and Ford now? I thought all working Magic Docks were V3s. Maybe that's old news?
Hey Mike. No, my brother in law sent me a txt this past week of him charging there. He has a BMW I4. it is open to everyone. I am not sure of the Magic Dock roll out. I have not really been tracking, but this is a pretty new station from what I understand talking to a ModS owner who was charging while I was there. Thx 4 watching.
I have a 2024 Blazer EV and the Tesla App on my iPhone 15 Pro. I also have the Tesla adapter with me. I stopped at a Tesla 'Charging Station' at a Meijer (in Michigan) the other day, scanned the barcode on the charger station with the Tesla app and the charger station I was located at did not come up in the app (faster away stations came up) so I could not activate the charging session. What did I do wrong? Please teach me how to charge using the Tesla's. Thanks in advance.
Hello. GM and Tesla have not completed the back end integration needed to make GM owners with adapters able to charge yet. After this video was release, Tesla laid off their SC team, which is further delaying the work from being completed. I will post another video when it is working. Have a good holiday weekend & stay safe.
@@thenetworkarchitectchannel That's pretty expensive. My last recharge (yesterday) at EVgo was 71 kWh. 71 x 0.5 = $35.50 My range is about 250 miles when you subtract the energy loss from having AWD, 22"rims and highway driving.
Hope you can assist. How did you add your Cadillac to the app. It doesn’t give the option for a Cadillac in the vehicle list. Then if you select other no chargers are available.
it was done at the Dealer at the time of purchase onto my Wife's cell phone. I did not watch as it was done and can not really say. Perhaps ask your sales person? I bet they do it all the time.
I recommend the free one from your car maker. I think in the case of GM, we will need to buy it and it won't be free. Not sure about Polestar/Volvo yet.
I currently drive a model 3 Tesla. I feel the quality of the car is not very good. I want to buy the Lyriq but will wait until the NACS charger is installed in the Lyriq. Any idea when this is going to happen?
I do. mod yr 2025, so l8tr this year is my understanding. Stay safe & thx 4 watching. we traded in a Mod3LR. The LYRIQ blows doors on it. Not even in the same ball park.
Walter: Have you heard anything about that the Big Three are considering not covering any warranty claims related to charging if you charge with other than that brand’s adapter? Sadly there are no Magic Dock locations anywhere near me.
I have not, but saw Tom M.'s vid about charging providers not being responsible if they cause damage to your car when a non OEM adapter is in use. It kinda makes sense and will be nice with adapters are no longer needed, but that is 5 yrs+ away. Thx for watching.
Since we're both in CLT & I'm about to potentially get a Lyriq, can I go to the North lake charger which I believe is 250kw and charge there with an adapter? Or do we have to wait for Tesla to open up the entire supercharger network?
The adapter is not out yet, but when it is yes. However, to put into perspective, my wife and I drive from Concord to Surf City w/o charging. You would normally not charge in your home city, unless you do not have a place to charge at your home. If that is your case, I would recommend buying a Tesla. They are easier to live with with only using public charging for daily grid. There is a new one in Salisbury off I-85 that is nice and also a new one on the south end of town off I-85, so plenty of SC round.
@@thenetworkarchitectchannel what about with a third party adapter? Just curious more than anything if it works now with any adapter. & I'm in Concord! Haha, I have a Tesla currently, wanted to change it up and love the Lyriq, I have a charger at home, I just want public options as I do drive a lot and on the way home from a shoot (I'm a photographer/videographer) sometimes I need to charge up a little to make it home but it's not a constant thing so I can take my ICE car on days where I would potentially have that scenario.
@@DPD92 details for knock off options not out yet, but there has been some verbage added to CPOs like EVgo & EA saying they are not responsible for damage when using non OEM adapters so I am assuming Tesla's SC will follow suite. I personally have a healthy fear of the juice being played with here. That amount will kill you like a bug zapper and not even say sorry. Using a knock off adapter on a rainy day sounds a little too exciting for my tastes. ;-) Stay safe.
@@thenetworkarchitectchannel oh yeah, like I said just more curious than anything. Don't plan to get one 3rd party. You definitely recommend the Lyriq btw?
w/o reservation. It costs less than the X, but has more to offer. It is so big, it barely fits in the garage. Such a dream to drive. My wife and I both agree. It is the nicest car we have ever owned.
@thenetworkarchitectchannel I love it. I haven't had any issues. I'm just waiting for updates. I also watched your scheduled service video. Mine is coming up soon. I live in Rock Hill SC, and I've watched all your videos ... their very helpful
I just traded my model 3 on a lyriq lex 3. I delete the model 3 off the tesla app when i go to set up the lyriq Cadillac does not show in the drop down. Help
It seemed fine, but u r right. This approach is susceptible to poor cell quality neutralizing the whole ability to charge. Other charging providers have a phone number you can call in situations like that, but Tesla does not.
Yeah, ive been driving a Tesla for 10 years. As a tesla owner i dont have to use any phone app at all to use a charger. They just work when i plug them in. Its super simple. @@thenetworkarchitectchannel
Thanks for the great video. This was fantastic to see. So Tesla is now allowing GM EVs to charge on their V4s? Or is it just this site? I know it's only the stalls and the actual chargers are still V3s, but this is news to me. So perhaps the February timeframe of that Tesla rep in Utah was correct. Obviously, GM and Ford EVs still need the adapters, but the V4s, besides the magic dock sites, already have the adapters built in. Or is this the site in Columbia, South Carolina? If so, then this is the first V4 stalls site I've seen used as magic dock site that actually allow others to charge. All other V4 sites in the US still don't allow other EVs to charge even though they all have the adapters built in. And what's the top charging speed of the Lyriq? And did you precondition the battery if it supports that? Would love to know if the amps are not being limited to 350 like the V3 stalls magic dock sites do. And yes, Tesla has no rivals when it comes to EV charging. They did it all themselves from scratch. When no other major auto manufacturer cared to even start, and wanted governments to do it for them, Tesla did it all themselves. And now they do it like no other. No one is even close. Building everything themselves, their chargers cost them 1/4 of what other chargers cost. And they currently average over 20 stalls installed per week. And plan to average over 50 per week by the end of 2025. That's on top of the over 22,000 already installed in the US. And all at a 99.96% reliability rate. So you are absolutely correct, Tesla dragged ALL other manufacturers into the EV age. It's join them or go under.
It is Columbia, SC. All EVs can charge there. Nothing unique to GM & Ford. I do think the leak from Utah seems to be right. Ford just announced they are shipping their adapters and GM has mention in their Q4 earnings slide deck of H1 2024, so I expect GM to do theirs shortly after Ford, since they made the deal 2 wks after Ford did. The fear of Tesla is a good thing. ;-}
@@thenetworkarchitectchannel Thanks for the info. Do you happen to know what are the amps limit on the Lyric? I'm trying to find out if Tesla is allowing more than the 350 amps limit on these V4 dispensers with their longer but thicker cables. Whereas, the V3 magic dock stalls are limited by Tesla to 350 amps for none Teslas.
@@thenetworkarchitectchannel Again, thanks for the info. So unless the battery was not preconditioned, the speeds you got suggest Tesla is limiting the amps to 350 even on V4 dispensers. I understand the chargers are still 400v V3s, but I thought perhaps with the thicker cables they would allow their max of over 500 amps to none-Teslas.
Ah… yes, this is a "Magic Dock" site. We're still waiting to see when Tesla will authorize GM to charge at v3 Superchargers -let alone other EVs besides Ford and Rivian. It is worrisome that GM's J3400 adapter (part #85090442) has now disappeared from its parts store. Sure sounds to me like the transition is now delayed because of the Supercharger firings.
I understand that you wanted to show people how these work with non Tesla ev’s, but that video should’ve been no more than 3-5 minutes. You told us way to much common sense stuff about the room for the vehicle, to park close or not, and definitely the ending when you spoke about 3 ways to disconnect. Using the alligator clip is a must because you have to disconnect from the car, is the only way to actually disconnect the cable. Like I said, the video was ok, but way to much talk about common sense stuff.
Thx 4 the feedback. The disconnect in the new adapter universe I felt was worthwhile time spent. I use to drive a M3LR as my daily driver. As any Tes owner will tell you, the stupid adapter staying put after pulling out a charging cable and the charge port door closing on it was a pain. Took two hands to do right and a bit of a learning process. Here you can kill the power by pressing the alligator clip, but you can also kill power from a safe distance and lift the alligator clip after power dies a few ways. I am confident drivers will find ways that work for them. You suggest everyone must do it your way and that is a very narrow view that believes your way is the right way. There are options. Your way is the right way for you. Me, maybe not. Someone else maybe but maybe not. Good news bout the pulling all the way in is Tes is making an extension, so gonna be a non-issue in a bit. Thx 4 watching.
This is misleading the title should say Tesla magicdock, of which there are like 20 locations. These instructions are not consistent with the adaptor GM will be distributing for general v3 access
I am making a subsequent video using the adapter which will be paired with this video. I see nothing misleading. I charge a LYRIQ at a SC and say during the video I will be releasing a subsequent video where I will charge using the adapter. Sorry you feel I was being misleading, but I respectfully disagree.
Don't think the title is misleading, but do agree charging at V3 stations is MUCH worse. He commented on that though - how you have to pull way up, and maybe can't because of the bollard. Best case at V3 stations is the left most stall pulling parallel, and the right most stall pulling at an angle. Sure, I suppose he could show the experience at V3 stations for comparison, but don't think the title or video is misleading - since he covered the V3 vs V4 points in the video.
Is there any sense of when Cadillac will release their adapter. I heard it might have an extender that would alleviate the issue with the short cords. Can’t wait to verify.
Thanks for sharing your V4 charger experience. Much easier than the select V3 stations with the Magic Dock. Seems Tesla is only installing new V4 stations at this point, the V3 stations aren't being retrofited. Hopefully soon, as it will be trouble with the short cords when all the CCS vehicles gets access to the full network shortly. Your V4 experience was great.
Thx for the kind words. It was a fun way to spend the cool of a morning. Stay safe.
Hopefully, they will replace the V2 sites to provide better coverage for those of us non-Tesla drivers.
@@YeOldeTraveller I am not 100% sure, but I do not think Tesla is upgrading sites. Instead their focus seems to be on adding new sites under the thought that more is more at this juncture. I may be wrong, but that is the feel I am getting. Thx 4 watching.
Your information is also useful for Mustang Mach-e owners as the charge port is in the same location.
I note over 45 Magicdock locations reported in Plugshare which is easy as you can just look for CCS on the Tesla network. For V3+, I filter for over 160 KW (one could use 200 KW just as well) on the Tesla network and the Tesla Fast connector.
Looking forward to trying with the adapter once I get mine.
U will get yours b4 I get mine, but I hope we both will be in the new normal by march. Stay safe & thx 4 watching
Nice to see a V4 dispenser setup charging a CCS car with fender port location. My CCS cars will be fine on the V4 setup. Too bad there aren't more V4 MD locations.
I was introduced to this one by my Bro-in-Law who passed by there last week. I did not know there was a Magic Dock location close by before then. Was great to be able to go shoot a vid there this morning. Thx 4 watching.
4:00 correct identification, thank you.
Really helpful video, thank you 🙏🏽
Glad it was helpful!
Leave it to Tesla to make a better charging experience than GM's own partnerships. My only gripe is that they haven't turned on the credit card screen yet. Having an app is a problem for all of the charging systems out there. Travelling I've been in many situations where the mobile data isn't working. The app should be a secondary payment system not primary like in every other aspect of life and fueling systems. I heard that GM is finally getting charge payments built in so it bills the car/ccard automatically. That would be nice. I believe that my Tesla gets charged even if it doesn't have Internet. Once it gets Internet the payment goes through in the car not the charger. That needs to be the standard.
IMHO better is a relitive term. If the goal is to survive on an EV road trip, Tesla is "better". If the goal is to enjoy an EV road trip, I go Pilot/Flying J. I ate meat loaf there on Friday. It was delicious. I had a side of mac-n-cheese and green beans. The places are awsome. Open 24/7 with full amenities & free wifi, not to mention window squeegees. Anyway, thx for watching and taking the time to post a comment. I agree autocharge on SC would be a dream. Hope that is a thing.
Thanks, Walter! I was hoping you'd be able to confirm whether the Magic Dock adapters on the V4 Superchargers are actually rated for 500 A, as some have claimed; however, this doesn't look like you were pulling any more power than you could have on the 350 A limited V3 Superchargers. I wonder whether you got a peek at the dispenser labels, which would confirm the peak voltage and amperage of the V4 Magic Dock adapters.
It sadly escaped my attention. I knew going in I was not making a site visit video with all the trimmings. I was thinking of going back and doing so at a later time. It was in a pretty nice location & about a mile + off the interstate, so not too bad. However, I did not check the specifics of the voltage. I guess I should of in retrospect. Thx for watching. It was a fun trip and exciting times in which we live. I still think for me SC will be a second options to EVgo and even EA depending. I also favor Buc-ee's for dietary reasons.
@@thenetworkarchitectchannel No worries. Hopefully, you can have the chance to check again soon. I know V4 uses beefier cables, and people have been reporting >150 kW through Magic Dock.
Thank you. Great video. ❤
Glad you enjoyed it!
Nice to see v4 dispensers in the wild!! Takes away all the offset parking headaches. Took a look in the Tesla app, but haven’t seen any clues on whether a site has v4 dispensers. Once v4 power supply is installed, the site should state the higher kWh rating. For now, not sure if the app will ID a v4 dispenser on v3 supply site. Thanks for the look at the v4 dispenser experience!
I've yet to see any V4 units in the wild around Ohio, but it's good to see the cable length is better
I hope we see these V4 + Magic Dock stations all over the US. Since Tesla is willing to sell them, I hope the other charge point operators consider using these.
With their 650 amp continuous cable rating, reliable operation and low cost, I hope they push the other charging equipment manufacturers to do better and give charge point operators a killer new option.
BP opened one in England last week and assumdly sometime soon in the US too. The future is bright. Exciting times in which we live! Thx 4 watching
In Quartzsite Arizona exit 17 west bound side, north, has 36 chargers next to Carl Jr's
Yeah, I hope to visit that location someday. The place is legendary in EV circles. Thx for watching.
Thanks for the video, looking to buy a lyriq and this was a big question I had, you seem like an expert and I’m wondering if you know the charging speed difference between Tesla and lyriq. I believe Tesla can go up to 250kw an hr but not sure what lyriq is limited to? Does the charge port option on the car matter? I believe they offer 2 versions on the lyriq. Also if I buy an adapter can i use a v3 station currently or will the Tesla app only allow v4 for non Tesla’s?Thanks and I hope you are able to respond
LYRIQ can charge 70 kWhs in 33 minutes, which is pretty good. Its top rate is 190 kW, but it stays above 100 kW further then Teslas. The bigger difference though is the LYRIQ has a 102 kWh battery pack. This is not comparable to the Mod3 or ModY. It is closer to the ModX which is what it competes against. However, it costs less than the X and has more to offer. I hope this answers your qestions.
Im confused by your comments...... I. currently own a Tesla model 3, Im about to by a 2024 Lyriq. I don't see on my Tesla phone app where to add a non- Tesla car for charging ? Please advise
I have a Lyriq Lux 3.
I'm waiting for the Lectron Vortex and the compatible Tesla Superchargers to attempt to Charge my Lyriq on a supercharger.
Till now I didn't consider the issues with charging on their cable length.
I don’t think it will be much of an issue. Right now we r all overthinking. When we get out there 4 real, I but it’s a nothing burger, but time will tell
Im confused! Should I wait until the 2025 Lyriq is available with NACS charging or do I buy a 2024. If I buy a 2024 what adapter do you recommend I buy to use at a Tesla charging station?
Waiting or buying now is a personal decision. I am an EV enthusiast so for me it makes sense to transition to reap the benefits (faster, quieter, more reliable, more convenient since I can fuel in my garage instead of at a gas station). I love the reliability aspect. They never break down. Super nice to have a reliable car.
There is a new V3 location near me but when I use the app to show non Tesla locations I get nothing in the entire Austin TX area, any ideas? Plus do you need to do anything in the application to add the Lyriq? Thanks
No additional action in app to add LYRIQ needed. The app will only show Magic Dock locations currently and there are only about 50 in the entire SC network, so likely you do not have any near you. Hope this helps, but ping back in if not. Thx 4 watching.
Thanks for the response. I thought that was the way it was supposed to work but you mentioned also just version 3 chargers so I thought you were saying those would also work, assuming you had an adapter. @@thenetworkarchitectchannel
the GM adapter is coming out sometime in the next month or two we think. I did not mention that time frame in the video because I am thinking this video will become a handy reference for when things open at SC locations and wanted to obfuscate dates. I will make a second video to pair with this one once the GM adapter is available. Sorry for the confusion.
Hi Walter, I didn't think any V4 post Magic Docks were enabled yet? Are they enabled for just GM and Ford now? I thought all working Magic Docks were V3s. Maybe that's old news?
Hey Mike. No, my brother in law sent me a txt this past week of him charging there. He has a BMW I4. it is open to everyone. I am not sure of the Magic Dock roll out. I have not really been tracking, but this is a pretty new station from what I understand talking to a ModS owner who was charging while I was there. Thx 4 watching.
Thanks, Walter. Is there a way to filter out destination chargers on Charge Your Non-Tesla in the app?
@@mikemahan6429 no, but I understand Chargeway can.
I have a 2024 Blazer EV and the Tesla App on my iPhone 15 Pro. I also have the Tesla adapter with me. I stopped at a Tesla 'Charging Station' at a Meijer (in Michigan) the other day, scanned the barcode on the charger station with the Tesla app and the charger station I was located at did not come up in the app (faster away stations came up) so I could not activate the charging session. What did I do wrong? Please teach me how to charge using the Tesla's. Thanks in advance.
Hello. GM and Tesla have not completed the back end integration needed to make GM owners with adapters able to charge yet. After this video was release, Tesla laid off their SC team, which is further delaying the work from being completed. I will post another video when it is working. Have a good holiday weekend & stay safe.
What does Tesla charge non-Teslas per kWh?
Lyriqs have a 102 kWh battery.
I have the 19kW charger option.
This station was $0.50 per kWh
@@thenetworkarchitectchannel That's pretty expensive.
My last recharge (yesterday) at EVgo was 71 kWh.
71 x 0.5 = $35.50
My range is about 250 miles when you subtract the energy loss from having AWD, 22"rims and highway driving.
Hope you can assist. How did you add your Cadillac to the app. It doesn’t give the option for a Cadillac in the vehicle list. Then if you select other no chargers are available.
it was done at the Dealer at the time of purchase onto my Wife's cell phone. I did not watch as it was done and can not really say. Perhaps ask your sales person? I bet they do it all the time.
Are we being give these adapters or do we need to buy them?
buy them, but not avail yet.
Which adapter do you recommend I buy & where can I buy it?
I recommend the free one from your car maker. I think in the case of GM, we will need to buy it and it won't be free. Not sure about Polestar/Volvo yet.
I currently drive a model 3 Tesla. I feel the quality of the car is not very good. I want to buy the Lyriq but will wait until the NACS charger is installed in the Lyriq. Any idea when this is going to happen?
I do. mod yr 2025, so l8tr this year is my understanding. Stay safe & thx 4 watching. we traded in a Mod3LR. The LYRIQ blows doors on it. Not even in the same ball park.
Walter: Have you heard anything about that the Big Three are considering not covering any warranty claims related to charging if you charge with other than that brand’s adapter? Sadly there are no Magic Dock locations anywhere near me.
I have not, but saw Tom M.'s vid about charging providers not being responsible if they cause damage to your car when a non OEM adapter is in use. It kinda makes sense and will be nice with adapters are no longer needed, but that is 5 yrs+ away. Thx for watching.
I am not sure what happened but no links in the description for me. I was going to watch the in depth video you referenced.
Click more and it is the one titled “Tesla vs Rivian”. Shows for me. Otherwise not sure. Anyway thx for watching
Since we're both in CLT & I'm about to potentially get a Lyriq, can I go to the North lake charger which I believe is 250kw and charge there with an adapter? Or do we have to wait for Tesla to open up the entire supercharger network?
The adapter is not out yet, but when it is yes. However, to put into perspective, my wife and I drive from Concord to Surf City w/o charging. You would normally not charge in your home city, unless you do not have a place to charge at your home. If that is your case, I would recommend buying a Tesla. They are easier to live with with only using public charging for daily grid. There is a new one in Salisbury off I-85 that is nice and also a new one on the south end of town off I-85, so plenty of SC round.
@@thenetworkarchitectchannel what about with a third party adapter? Just curious more than anything if it works now with any adapter. & I'm in Concord! Haha, I have a Tesla currently, wanted to change it up and love the Lyriq, I have a charger at home, I just want public options as I do drive a lot and on the way home from a shoot (I'm a photographer/videographer) sometimes I need to charge up a little to make it home but it's not a constant thing so I can take my ICE car on days where I would potentially have that scenario.
@@DPD92 details for knock off options not out yet, but there has been some verbage added to CPOs like EVgo & EA saying they are not responsible for damage when using non OEM adapters so I am assuming Tesla's SC will follow suite. I personally have a healthy fear of the juice being played with here. That amount will kill you like a bug zapper and not even say sorry. Using a knock off adapter on a rainy day sounds a little too exciting for my tastes. ;-) Stay safe.
@@thenetworkarchitectchannel oh yeah, like I said just more curious than anything. Don't plan to get one 3rd party. You definitely recommend the Lyriq btw?
w/o reservation. It costs less than the X, but has more to offer. It is so big, it barely fits in the garage. Such a dream to drive. My wife and I both agree. It is the nicest car we have ever owned.
I used these chargers in Columbia, SC last week
I also have a '23 Cadillac Lyriq
how'd u like it so far (the car)?
@thenetworkarchitectchannel I love it. I haven't had any issues. I'm just waiting for updates. I also watched your scheduled service video. Mine is coming up soon. I live in Rock Hill SC, and I've watched all your videos ... their very helpful
I welcome EV cross fraternization. :) Were is that 96 stall supercharger station going to be?
search UA-cam for Out of Spec vid titled "CCS vs Tesla DC Fast Charging In Quartzsite Arizona".
...and actually it is 125 stalls.
I just traded my model 3 on a lyriq lex 3. I delete the model 3 off the tesla app when i go to set up the lyriq Cadillac does not show in the drop down. Help
I suggest calling OnStar. They have always been helpful to me
Is this the one in SC?
yes. Columbia
Hopefully that supercharger isn't in a dead spot for your cell phone.
It seemed fine, but u r right. This approach is susceptible to poor cell quality neutralizing the whole ability to charge. Other charging providers have a phone number you can call in situations like that, but Tesla does not.
Yeah, ive been driving a Tesla for 10 years. As a tesla owner i dont have to use any phone app at all to use a charger. They just work when i plug them in. Its super simple.
@@thenetworkarchitectchannel
Thanks for the great video. This was fantastic to see. So Tesla is now allowing GM EVs to charge on their V4s? Or is it just this site? I know it's only the stalls and the actual chargers are still V3s, but this is news to me. So perhaps the February timeframe of that Tesla rep in Utah was correct. Obviously, GM and Ford EVs still need the adapters, but the V4s, besides the magic dock sites, already have the adapters built in.
Or is this the site in Columbia, South Carolina? If so, then this is the first V4 stalls site I've seen used as magic dock site that actually allow others to charge. All other V4 sites in the US still don't allow other EVs to charge even though they all have the adapters built in.
And what's the top charging speed of the Lyriq? And did you precondition the battery if it supports that? Would love to know if the amps are not being limited to 350 like the V3 stalls magic dock sites do.
And yes, Tesla has no rivals when it comes to EV charging. They did it all themselves from scratch. When no other major auto manufacturer cared to even start, and wanted governments to do it for them, Tesla did it all themselves. And now they do it like no other. No one is even close. Building everything themselves, their chargers cost them 1/4 of what other chargers cost. And they currently average over 20 stalls installed per week. And plan to average over 50 per week by the end of 2025. That's on top of the over 22,000 already installed in the US. And all at a 99.96% reliability rate.
So you are absolutely correct, Tesla dragged ALL other manufacturers into the EV age. It's join them or go under.
It is Columbia, SC. All EVs can charge there. Nothing unique to GM & Ford. I do think the leak from Utah seems to be right. Ford just announced they are shipping their adapters and GM has mention in their Q4 earnings slide deck of H1 2024, so I expect GM to do theirs shortly after Ford, since they made the deal 2 wks after Ford did.
The fear of Tesla is a good thing. ;-}
@@thenetworkarchitectchannel Thanks for the info.
Do you happen to know what are the amps limit on the Lyric? I'm trying to find out if Tesla is allowing more than the 350 amps limit on these V4 dispensers with their longer but thicker cables. Whereas, the V3 magic dock stalls are limited by Tesla to 350 amps for none Teslas.
475 by my math. 400 v w/ top speed of 190 kW.
@@thenetworkarchitectchannel Again, thanks for the info.
So unless the battery was not preconditioned, the speeds you got suggest Tesla is limiting the amps to 350 even on V4 dispensers. I understand the chargers are still 400v V3s, but I thought perhaps with the thicker cables they would allow their max of over 500 amps to none-Teslas.
Ah… yes, this is a "Magic Dock" site. We're still waiting to see when Tesla will authorize GM to charge at v3 Superchargers -let alone other EVs besides Ford and Rivian. It is worrisome that GM's J3400 adapter (part #85090442) has now disappeared from its parts store. Sure sounds to me like the transition is now delayed because of the Supercharger firings.
yeah, suckie 4 sure. Gonna be months b4 this mess gets sorted.
I'd advise against this. Per Cadillac, the adapter with Tesla will come out November
I’m not happy when another brand car books 2 spots.
I agree. It is a problem. I think the Tesla extension will solve for though. Thx 4 watching
I understand that you wanted to show people how these work with non Tesla ev’s, but that video should’ve been no more than 3-5 minutes. You told us way to much common sense stuff about the room for the vehicle, to park close or not, and definitely the ending when you spoke about 3 ways to disconnect. Using the alligator clip is a must because you have to disconnect from the car, is the only way to actually disconnect the cable. Like I said, the video was ok, but way to much talk about common sense stuff.
Thx 4 the feedback. The disconnect in the new adapter universe I felt was worthwhile time spent. I use to drive a M3LR as my daily driver. As any Tes owner will tell you, the stupid adapter staying put after pulling out a charging cable and the charge port door closing on it was a pain. Took two hands to do right and a bit of a learning process. Here you can kill the power by pressing the alligator clip, but you can also kill power from a safe distance and lift the alligator clip after power dies a few ways. I am confident drivers will find ways that work for them. You suggest everyone must do it your way and that is a very narrow view that believes your way is the right way. There are options. Your way is the right way for you. Me, maybe not. Someone else maybe but maybe not.
Good news bout the pulling all the way in is Tes is making an extension, so gonna be a non-issue in a bit. Thx 4 watching.
whole lot of talking and no charging
I do charge at the end. I felt often the preliminaries are overlooked and this is targeted at 1st time SC users
This is misleading the title should say Tesla magicdock, of which there are like 20 locations. These instructions are not consistent with the adaptor GM will be distributing for general v3 access
I am making a subsequent video using the adapter which will be paired with this video. I see nothing misleading. I charge a LYRIQ at a SC and say during the video I will be releasing a subsequent video where I will charge using the adapter. Sorry you feel I was being misleading, but I respectfully disagree.
Don't think the title is misleading, but do agree charging at V3 stations is MUCH worse. He commented on that though - how you have to pull way up, and maybe can't because of the bollard. Best case at V3 stations is the left most stall pulling parallel, and the right most stall pulling at an angle. Sure, I suppose he could show the experience at V3 stations for comparison, but don't think the title or video is misleading - since he covered the V3 vs V4 points in the video.
Is there any sense of when Cadillac will release their adapter. I heard it might have an extender that would alleviate the issue with the short cords. Can’t wait to verify.
GM Q4 earnings slide deck says H1 2024. GM was two weeks after Ford and Ford is soon to ship theirs, so it stands to reason GM will be shortly after.