You Won't Believe How Much It Costs To Charge The Hummer EV!
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- Опубліковано 9 лис 2022
- Kyle walks you through the 0-100% charging cost of the over 200kWh Hummer EV Edition 1.
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$100 at a DC fast charger station.
Clearly you don't know much about electricity bills. You didn't take into account any of the delivery charges and other fees that you get charged for using electricity at home. Your total cost is way higher than 7 cents a KW.
@@Mack_Dingo I'm at 09:56 of the video when does he exactly mention the cent price of a minute?
ps you for got to include What YOUR time is worth while sitting in the parking lot charging your truck for 2 1/2 hours.
YOURE A JOKE.
SOLAR PANELS ARE A JOKE.
NASA WENT SOLAR IN THE SIXTIES NO JOKE. THEY USED A SYSTEM THATS SAFE CHEAP CLEAN.
SALT USED FOR HEAT STORAGE.
Video starts at 14:02 . The price is $102.31 GOOD LUCK EV
i know right. i skipped right to that point..
Thank you 👍
Thanks! Saved me time. His video is similar to EV charging times.
Thank you!
THE HERO WE DONT DESERVE BUT NEED
Imagine in the hot summer heat when every home is running their AC on full blast and electric companies are begging for mercy and are forced to quadruple the price of charging.
They will use gas to generate electricity, fas car drivers will pay for that
Just charge at home
@latinsizer
Finally someone gets what I’ve been saying all along. People think that once EV’s have been forced on us that we’ll all be getting electricity for free. It’s gonna cost just as much to charge an EV as it will to gas your car up, if not more. These power companies are still run by greedy sociopathic narcissists.
@@tedarcher9120 "Just stop driving long distances"
I can fill my 38 gallon truck up with gas, while he’s telling us about charging. Love your videos so not busting your chops. I watched some of your EV reviews during the pandemic and after, you were trying to change in the winter, and so many chargers were not working, and you were honest about it, so thanks
I always think about the massive upgrade/overhaul of the electrical infrastructure that would be required if there were hundreds of millions of these things on the road.
@@CognitiveDissident.Thats why getting into hyper-efficiency is the way of the future for commuters. Once you can break 300EMPG (tesla are 80empg and Aptera I'd 350 empg) you finally are in the realm of being able to charge your car strictly on roof solar.
Why not cover a Tesla in solar power? Because you'd be lucky to get 5 miles a day on over $1,000 of solar equipment.
But cars like Aptera can get 40 miles a day from the sun, not because their solar is amazing (it's only like 700 watts) but because they use the energy the sun created so efficiently.
Congratulations. You've successfully managed to make a 20 sec video last as long as it's takes your vehicle to charge.
I was thinking the same thing I kept jumping till I found what I wanted.
@@jstef928 😂😂😂
All that to recommend EA INCREASE their charging cost. Seriously? Who says that? “Promote viable business models.” As if he’s owns an energy company. 😫😂 But, hey, good job on the stats and getting to nap in a hummer. 👌🏼
@Anthony Diaz Exactly a brilliant business model. Make a vehicle that cost 3 times as much as a traditional gas car and then make it cost the same to fill at the pump. As long as you bribe politicians to force people to buy it. Also don't forget the tax breaks and incentives stolen from welfare to subsidize the manufacturer. What an incredible savings. Meanwhile still burning fossil to generate electricity to be pumped through inefficient transmission lines. 20 tons of Co2 per vehicle built equalling 4 years of driving a gas vehicle only to have it scraped in 5 years because it ain't built to last. Government saving the world one business at a time.
Agree, long winded drivel before getting to the point. Not going to follow this channel. 👎
Hummer being a guzzler is absolutely hilarious. Some things never change.
Welcome to another video of another car I cannot afford 😢
evs are a joke.
@@American_Made A hummer H2 gets 11 mpg and has a 32 gallon tank. That's $95.00 for 352 miles. If you're smart about your charging, the cost is a fraction of the cost of gas. I'm no EV worshiper, but paying less for "fuel" is no joke. How many people drive over 200 miles on a daily basis. Almost no one.
This is an E-tank
@@spuriouseffect Oh I know. This is no slight against EVs, and really more of a funny observation given how Hummer is pretty much THE American stereotype car.
The electric guzzler of the EV world 😂
Yeah 213 kW lol :-) That's like 2.6 Model Ys (long range). GM is like the Intel/Nvidia of EVs... 'oh you want more performance? Well then, more power!' Not more efficiency.
What a 9k lb pile of garbage.
@@declinox yeah 1000HP is not necessary for "normal" driving I can see 500 HP and 500 foot pounds of torque for towing but there is no reason for anything over that for driving or towing but I guess they need that much because it weighs 10,000 ibs
@@declinox yeah 1000HP is not necessary for "normal" driving I can see 500 HP and 500 foot pounds of torque for towing but there is no reason for anything over that for driving or towing but I guess they need that much because it weighs 10,000 ibs
Cost per mile looks about the same as a monster SUV using $4 gasoline.
When I charged my Nissan Leaf at home in Oregon at 8.3 cents per KWH the cost to replenish 200 miles of driving was equal to buying a gallon of gas. So I got the equivalent of 200 miles per gallon.
How do you charge it when the grid goes down or there's a blackout or hurricane.
How do you pump gas in the same scenario?
@@bradmagnuson6963 gas generator
@@bradmagnuson6963 gas generator
@@bradmagnuson6963 gas generator
@@bradmagnuson6963 With a pump that is powered by gasoline... Charging an electric car with a diesel generator is inefficient but driving a pump with this generator is efficient. A gas station has diesel to run a diesel generator, I think.
This hummer uses twice as much electricity as I use in a month for home.
Hummer: fuck the planet
All electric cars will cost a lot once there are many more out there as electricity costs will skyrocket. In turn poor people will not be able to watch TV anymore either
😳
@@darkfoxx87 That's their goal
@@xzysyndrome ev will bankrupt u
Even in EV form, the Hummer still manages to make the ozone layer it’s b*tch.😂
And with few exceptions will be powered by 100 percent fossil fuels. Possibly even coal. True coal rolling there.
So my understanding is that depending on the scenario / pricing, theres potential for not much savings. Eventually power companies will be like oil companies, costs to charge will go up way more once more people jump on board, long waits to fully charge, more resources to build the cars, and what it takes to ( manufacture / Recycle / dispose / replace ) an EV battery. So much greener alright.
@@Intechdude300It’s impossible to make everyone go electric, probably not even half with our current infrastructure. Electricity to charge your car will eventually become more expensive than gasoline for an equivalent vehicle.
@@M4X1 It already is in some states! My electricity cost is $0.32/kWh (In California), at that rate, it's $71.68 to fully charge this EV from home with a miniscule range of barely 300 miles. My 2017 Ford Explorer Sport fills up right now with $70 and gets me almost 400 miles to the tank, EV ain't looking soo good now, is it? lol
@@grayrabbit2211 happening in China 😆
Also, how long does it take to fully charge that thing on that station?
2hrs or 4hrs?
In Germany you can double the cost to charge ! Also the chargers are mostly blocked by other EV in my region.
Home 0,45€ - 0,60€ /kWh
Charger 0,50€ - 0,85€ /kWh
Date: 03.2023
The continual battery drain on an EV is like having a gas tank with a slow leak.
Right?
Damn right!! My Duramax Silverado is probably just as efficient...
@@alanj7306 Your Duramax is more efficient and the hummer EV battery has a life span of 10 yrs or so, at the estimated replacement cost of 20 - 30 thousand in ten years.... long before you wear out that duramax. I have the baby duramax 4 cyl. in the midsize Colorado ZR2 which I love, especially with getting about 30 mpg hwy and loads of torque. I saw a video of someone measuring the electromagnetic radiation given off inside the cabin of an EV and it measured 1/3 of the radiation emitted from a microwave oven, which is much worse than what a cell phone puts out. At those levels you should FEEL the cancer swelling. Believe it or not but the cure for cancer, according to some testimonies is actually dog de wormer pills which has the active ingredient called " Fenbendazole " that has cured terminally ill patients.
The battery pack replacement is going to cost additional 50k every 5 years plus the shipping, installation, labor, taxes and fees forever.
@@Kingofthehill84lmao you have no idea what you are talking about.
Can't wait to start seeing people fighting over these charging stations 😂
Mugging.
Victims of Chuggings...
There is a thing called proper charging demeanor.
Imagine needing to evacuate an area due to outages caused by an oncoming storm/hurricane, being on 20 percent charge, and the stations are all being used, or are not even working! 🤣
@@randybaumery5090
Happened in Florida with Hurricane Charlie. We have a home in Florida. No EVs for us.
Keep the tank full and have a spare Jerry Can to evacuate when we need to.
The ultimate kicker for EVs is if the unavoidable situation occurs where you run out of electricity and get stranded. With a gas car you can call for assistance and someone will bring you a couple gallons. In an EV.....it's a long and expensive tow ride.
There are tow companies that have charging built into their trucks. It's not as fast as dumping 3 gallons of gas in, but most time you don't need to go that far to the next charger.
Plus the last time you ever ran out of fuel should have been when you were 16 years old, unless you are an extraordinarily irresponsible person.
Or you can roll up in another EV and charge the car enough to get to the nearest station.
Maybe I missed it but what mileage do you get with a full charge?
Embarassing question .................hahahaha.......
The more I learn about EVs, the less want one.
You EVPhobe
Now you see why the politicians are completely stupid for mandating these things. They DONT do anything for the environment and they cost a fortune to charge
The rest of the world will come to the same conclusion. You’re just smarter than them.
When the automobile was new I can guarantee there are many people who thought it was stupid and wouldn't last. People who are incapable of understanding that the reliability of technology improves over time are proven wrong consistently. There will come a day when EVs become an irreplaceable asset of modern society.
@@1ledluverjlp hydrogen fuel cells are the future. EV’s will be gone soon enough. Remember this convo when you’re driving a HFC powered car. Many states can’t handle the electric demand they already have. CA just told EV owners not to charge during the cold winter months because of high demand. Not to mention that almost all electric cars are basically COAL POWERED! Lol. Very green. What a joke.
I live off grid, and produce 2 to 4 kilowatts a day in solar depending on the weather. I have a refrigerator, a freezer, and two water pumps, and of course all the charging of electronics. Along with kitchen counter top appliances. Gas stove and water heater.
On average I use the generator on dark cloudy days, and use 10 gallons of gas. (Still adding to solar system)
Just to give an idea of how much power that EV uses. It would take me around 60 to 80 days to charge that EV, without using any power for my daily use.
how many square feet of solar panes do you have? I have a hard time believing that Tesla can power their charging stations with the few solar canopies they have setup in certain areas.
@@skmetal7 not sure of the square footage, because my solar array is based off watts, I have a mixed sets of solar panels. This means that solar panels depending on the manufacturer, they come in an arrangement of measurements.
Which as it stands I have only have 1205 watts an hour at peak performance.
Yet daily use is a measurement that is different to achieve, without creating resistance. Due to gage of wire that such measurement device requires, I have not measured this parameter.
I also have wired thr cabin with over gauged wire, to reduce resistance.
Always adding to the 12 volt system.
The thought is to develop a 12 volt system that handles all my basic needs. Then build the 24 volt system after the 12 volt system can support what I need to keep everything going, even if it's bad weather for a few days.
I am just about ready to add another 720 watts. Which due to a 12 volt system. That panels were a lot larger for what they receive for watts.
The energy hub has a roof line 12x6, and 12x8, so 168sq ft.
The main point is that, yes people should learn their energy consumption, before thinking that they are saving the planet, with buying an EV.
Solar understands watts more then anything, and a 1000 watts is a kilowatt.
When thinking solar a single kilowatt is a lot of energy. So when buying even a blender the about ot watts that it takes to operate this item is a deep consideration.
Many companies now use a plow against this understanding by not illustrating the watts. This why understanding Ohms law comes into play. If one knows this simple math, then it's not difficult to determine whether to buy it or not.
Solar is not as simple as it seems, yet it is. When one gets it, this will.make sense.
I saw a video that said one EV is like running 25 refrigerators in your home all at once.
@@eugeniaskelley5194 probably not to far from the truth.
The last year I have gotten down to average of 0.85 kWh pr. day (without heating) My electric car uses about 15 times that amount.
So at the end how much does it take to fully charge the Hummer?
$97.00 or $15.00?
Thank you for the breakdown!!! That's exciting to see, especially from home!
He needs to count his time sitting around waiting for the truck to charge.
Exactly, it’s like these EV people have no lives and a bunch of money
Hours
Most people use cheap off-peak electricity while they sleep so charging time isn't an issue. It's much cheaper than going to a public rapid charge which you only do if you have to. Also if you can afford to splurge this much on an EV you'll have the funds for solar panels.
@@Jamessansome solar panels!! Solar panels !!
U think solar panels can charge this massive power hungry car! To do just even that u need atleast half a food ball field cover with solar panels n u must be in places like Vegas or California where u can get SUN for 10 hours. U need so many batteries to save those electricity u produce. Then u might charge ur car for each day I hope. That’s the best scenario here. Using only 5/8 solar panels on roof not proper Sun light will not be efficient enoug to charge this beast
He plays fortnite and mine craft while charging
The real cost of "filling up" must include the $40,000 price tag for the truck battery, which wears out in around 15 years. That's $2,666 per year just for the battery, now you add in the electric charging costs.
Electric cars are for people who have bad math
15 years? more like 5 years!
A battery that you can charge to only 60 percent of what you could when it was new is considered "worn out". This usually happens long before 15 years. A more realistic estimate is 7 years if you run deep cycles (discharging most of the battery energy before recharging) or up to 12 years running shallow cycles (low mileage per day and keeping battery topped up). A truck battery is much more likely to be run using deep cycles....especially when hauling a load or when towing. A Tesla 3 or cheaper EV for daily commutes makes economic sense....anything larger does not. An EV semi-truck is especially hard to make economically feasible when the weight of the batteries in order to get the range you need approaches the weight of the load you are trying to haul. When bringing in the cost of a battery change you get to a point of diminishing returns. Democrat politicians only look at the best case scenario and think that everyone drives that way so everyone should be forced to change to EV by letting gas prices go up. They do not even consider that most people do not drive shallow cycle. They only consider the city dwellers that vote their way and are already big proponents of EVs. Hopefully the next election will remove these short term thinkers out of power.
@Michael Jorgensen Tru.. no different from these batteries in your cell phone, when they age you can only charge em to %70 instead of the fully charged %100
@@terrelle5087 Newer phones will even trick you by adjusting themselves to show a full 100 percent charge even after 5 years old as mine did. But when it only lasts 60 to 70 percent of what it did when it was new....it is obvious that the battery is indeed deteriorating.
there is a fire. which do you pick? thr ev or gas?
I'm choosing the one where I'm not Bruning while charging
So a hummer H2 with roughly 12mpg costs about 85$ of Gas(CO price) to drive 220miles. And the hummer EV costs about the same or slightly more if you charge outside home?
Imagine how much there gonna charge in 10 years to charge your hummer.
HE WILL NEED A NEW BATTERY 50K USD BEFORE THAT
That will be a antique in 10 years
Mark my words. They are going to charge you a premium for EV charging. It will be higher then gas or diesel.
@@MickeyMishra that’s a given.
@@MickeyMishra If you actually believe electricity will be more expensive than fossil fuels then you should rejoice. It'll give gas, diesel, and natgas more reason to exist at the consumer level as people buy home backup generators which will also be used to charge their electric vehicles.
On a serious note, what unregulated technology has gotten more expensive over time while providing less utility to the consumer? 10 years from now the solar panels installed today will be providing free power. The minimal costs to maintain them will be well within the budget of today's power rates. There is a also reasonable chance a standard priced home will have a solar tile roof by default. Materials aren't the major cost, it's location and personnel. Los Angeles where I grew up the median cost of a home is 1M and selling your home for 1.2M by upgrading the roof to solar tiles is something Californian's absolutely would do.
That hummer is actually immense and I live in the Uk where it would never work on our roads, and that charging rate is insane!
They INTENDED for it to be expensive. Politicians don't care one bit if we can't afford it. This helps them CONTROL people. California is doing that by simply shutting down power to charging stations whenever they can't meet demand. They then smuggly snark "Stop charging your vehicles! You're overloading the grid!" They don't care if it works or not. It's all about government abuse and keeping the poor people under their thumb.
Bro that hummer is small is just like the size of a tahoe
How many miles can you get from a full charge. I pay that to fill my truck and can get over 900km with a full tank. And I dont have a 30k bill in a couple years for a new battery
I've never seen an EA charging station where they all work or didn't have a backup for the lone charger working, thanks for giving me hope.
I did the cost calculation. My 4x4 full-size pickup has a 375 mile range per tank and would be about $90 to fill from empty. Takes less than 10 minutes to fill.
not only that but average 4x4 trucks average msrp is between 50 and 65000... that hummer ev is nearly 80k... not factoring in bullshit dealer markups that'll easily bring it past 100k...
It’s also has 1000 hp. Your f150 has 385 ish.
I love EVs but I think you should keep your 4x4 until you have no other choice.
@@msolar1041 Great it is fast but can not pull my boat 300 miles. Which is how far it is without charging stations.
@@msolar1041 where are you going use that 1000hp up ur ..s it can’t even tow for more than 100 miles
The charge time is the killer. Filling a diesel tank for comparable range takes only a few minutes. And if you need to wait for others ahead of you to charge, that's a *really* big deal (whereas with diesel it's only short wait)
CA averages $0.28 per KWh, which would cost over $200 to fill it. Then mandating a transition where they can't meet electric power demand today?? Haven't seen such a collosal idiotic idea this big since mortgage companies made NINJA loans (No Income - No Job, Application) for $500,000+
homes.
The thing is you’re comparing a showpiece to a utility vehicle the hummer is to show off it’s not efficient and not cost effective hummers usually aren’t whereas other ev trucks and cars can get around 0-80 in under around 30-40 minutes? That adds hundreds of miles
@@aidenpommee766 the thing is, f250's or even f350's or equivalent would be in the same situation as this humvee if they were electric.
@@upsidedownpeon9984 i.e., impractical in today's world, using current technology!
@@echo-channel77 your math is wrong. At $0.28/kWh that would be about $61.
You talked about charging it for the first 10 minutes of the video-finally you plugged it in. Nice spread sheet showing options. GM made very few of these. I think it’s cool too.
You recommend lowering soc levels so low it damages the pack to get better charge rates?
I have a military Humvee and when the fuel is $5 a gallon it cost me around $100.00 per fill up. Now I feel better.
How far will that take you compared to this electric version?
@@CarlWithACamera About the same range. This guy said the Hammer EV is terrible and it gets 1 mile per kw hour and the gas Hummer is realistically 10 miles per gallon. So I would say more or less the same range.
@@user-fi1xu1pp7p Yes, but if you were out in the boonies, you can carry spare fuel in a can.
@@eugeniaskelley5194I carry a canister of electrons that I can pour in my EV when the battery runs low.
So between $69.44 - $96.32? (13:38) Wow! I had no idea charging a Hummer EV would be that expensive! It's definitely a good reminder to be mindful of the cost of our energy usage.
Goated
Level 3 charging that is. That’s not the same for Level 1 and Level 2 charging (home or public)
That’s why u charge it at home
How much does it cost to fill up a Hummer?
Hummer H2 has a fuel capacity of 32 gallons. Gasoline at my local station today was $2.68. 2.68×32 is $85.76 for 1 tank of gas. Of course you will be filling of rather often since the fuel economy is about 9-10 miles per gallon.Dec 24, 2019
High price to charge, and don't forget you have a high payment on the vehicle as well. Even if you pay cash in full for the vehicle , it will take years to break even with the gas version. The gas version would be more efficient on the environment and your wallet. Then you have an explosive, unstable vehicle in your garage. O don't forget high insurance rates, if you can get the insurance in the coming years.
We need to remember that these charging costs include zero for state/federal highway taxes. As more EVs hit the roads, states and the fed are going to need to find a way to tax them to keep our streets and roads in good shape. Since they typically weigh more than equivalent gas vehicles, the rates may be even higher than gas tax rates. In my state (MI) we pay 28.6 cents/gallon for state tax, and 18.4 cents/gallon federal tax for a total of 47 cents/gallon. Average state gas price is $2.81, so that comes to almost 17% in gasoline tax. Expect charging rates to increase by at least this much in the near future.
Nevada says they will charge EV's by the mile, payable when renewing registration (plates) ICE cars already pay thru fuel sales. They haven't started the payment yet, they say they are still working out the details.
Cost is comparable, but time is not! It may take 10-15 minutes for gas versus nearly 3 hours! Even smaller EVs take an hour or more to "fill up." Brag all you want, but this is not a family trip vehicle.
Meanwhile the guy with the $500 Pontiac sun fire filled up in 3 min and is at the party with your girl 😅. Standing in the parking lot 👍 and paying a lot for it . Win win
I had a 78 sunfire with Iron Duke motor and the Coldest AC I've ever felt. Paid 200 in 88 had it 5 years. But I love the Hummer, just no way I can justify "saving our planet" with that.
Ain’t no sunfire owner filling up their tank 😂😂
@@SidVintageToys😂😂😂 now that’s some funny shit right there!!!
The times where you will need to charge it on the road will be rare. Just charge it at your house overnight and you never need to go to a gas station.
@ent1311 so he have to stay within a hundred mile radius of your home. And then what happen if the grid goes down.
My 2015 Ram 1500 will take around 23gal to fill. If I run it all the way down. Avg price for me, $4.229, $97.26. That will get me around 380 to 400 miles. It takes 5 minutes to fill up. Towing 5000 to 7000# it drops to around 200 miles. But I'm back on the road in what is, near as makes no difference, no time flat.
Lol these hipsters don't get what's going to happen.... lol biden will lead em all to slaughter
Imagine towing half the weight and then having to wait almost 3 hrs to recharge.
@@patrickriarchy6054 Exactly. Not going to happen in my life time.
wow it’s like $2.75 a gallon here
@@MrPland1992 Its come down a bit since I made this post. I paid $3.91 Monday for premium. I think 87 is at $3.22. I should have noted, those prices mentioned were for 93oct.
Great insights, gives me a idea of the cost.
How much energy is the charging station using? Does Conventional fuel also power the Charging station.
Gonna run into some real issues in areas like DC, NYC, etc where communtes are 1.5 hours each way assuming no traffic events. I lived in Fredericksburg, VA and spent upwards of 4 hours on a one way commute from DC on many occassions due to traffic. I think EVs are going to have issues in those environments. When you get to the under ground parking for instance in DC your vehicle is not going to be able to be charged when they literally stack the vehicle 3 deep. There are going to be many many problems that are going to leave people stranded at a much higher rate than gas.
EV'S do not use energy by the minute. You could literally be stuck in a snow storm for 3 days running the heat to stay moderately warm and the infotainment softly for news and entertainment from near a full charge. All this fear in unfounded
@@mvanluven78
Yes they do use energy by the minute or else they wouldn't move.
@@patrickriarchy6054 I think his point is that you aren't moving during a lot of that commute..
@@mitchell10394
Sure but whether you're moving or not it still uses energy just much less energy.
Electric motors don't use energy when they aren't moving.... There are no constantly idling parts or a transmission w/torque converter.
How much does one value their time ...with 3 hour charging session ?
so did you stay out all night while waiting, or did you call an uber to take you home and back?
We had 4 hummers in our camp and it took approximatly $100 to fill up from empty everytime. circa 2005
The more I learn about EVs the less I am willing to ever have anything to do with them.
Reminds me of golf carts which become a pain when you start to have electrical problems and batteries
BECAUSE BI OIL WANTS EV TO FAIL.
NASA HAD SOLAR POWERED CARS IN THE 70 S. GOVERNMENT SAID NO.
@@bighowardshsnUSE SODIUM TO STORE HEAT. THERE ARE SOLUTIONS BUT GOVERNMENT DONT WANT THINGS SOLVED.
NASA AND STIRLING. UNIT RAN UNDER FULL LOAD NON STOP 14 YEARS
@@ronniewall492 considering how heavily subsidized EVs have to be I don't think oil companies have anything to worry about. Btw. All caps is generally considered rude. Just say'n.
@@ronniewall492 i realy wish something would replace the battery thats the electric motors problem otherwise no oil and gas stations would b nice
I saw a pre production one a while ago while I was fast charging my EV6. It is huge 😱
I saw one in Saratoga Springs UT the other day... followed through a parking lot sequence near where I live. Looked smooth....
Friend was showing off his new Ford EV the other day.
He pulled into the coffee shop and parked next to my new Porsche 911.
It was ugly, but he pointed out how quiet it was, etc.
He pointed out he had a 180 mile range.
I suggested we make a run to Reno…..nope….don’t know where to charge it and it would take too long.
Noise ? Same problem.
Seattle? Same answer.
So, we’re going to take the Porsche….520 mile range and 5 minutes to refuel when we get there.
Enjoy the Hummer.
12 kw for heating with the heat pump is crazy! I heat my whole house with a heat pump that only pulls 2 kw.
Automotive heat pumps tend to be hybrid (including resistive heating), and cars are terrible for holding heat (unlike homes).
It's for getting to the target temperature as quickly as possible. After just a couple of minutes, it drops to 3-4 kW.
@@wojciechmuras553 If that includes battery heating, that sounds about right. The Bolt EV's heater will draw ~10 kW max power between the cabin and battery heater (about 3 kW just for the battery).
@@newscoulomb3705 It's similar with the Spark EV (18 kWh new, 12-14kWh today). 6-7kW PTC heater/dehumidifier in winter + 2.5kW seperate PTC battery heater if pack is below 5ºC. Battery temps increase by about 1-2ºC/min and the HVAC loop heats up extremely quick, within a minute before it drops to 1-2kW so it doesn't happen for long. However while driving and not preconditioning, or level 1 charging, battery heater throttles to 500W-1kW.
@@Infinion Yes, I did a demonstration once, though hard to communicate through video. People asked me to run the heater at full blast in the Bolt EV (so ~7 kW just for cabin), but even with the outside temperatures under 30 F, I had to turn it off after a few minutes. It's just too much heat to output for a long period of time unless the temperatures are extremely low (say sub 0 F).
A plug in hybrid is the only way to go. Plug it in at home and use electric to go to work and the grocery store. Use gas when going on trips. Or they need to start figuring out hydrogen and put those into gas stations everywhere. That would solve all the problems.
Who tests the stations for accuracy like when pumping gas?
Double stack battery pack? Good luck getting that fire extinguished
Kyle’s like, I’m not actually going to pay to charge this! 😂
Them Apple Watch Ultras don't pay for themselves!
EA said, no you don't have to pay with this charger...wasn't Kyle's choice
Theft!
He's paying for it, he just doesn't realize HOW he's paying for it.
@@echo-channel77 Correct NO FREE LUNCH Someone( All of us) are paying taxes or I mean my Great Grandchildren will be paying taxes (investments) in politition speak for that FREE Charging.
Can it drive up steep hills or do you call a tow truck?
It’s interesting how most people don’t know this but electricity prices fluctuate rapidly throughout the day the most expensive time being at night
I scootered by the other day and spotted the Hummer parked in the street! It really surprised me how it didn't seem THAT big. They really committed to the bit with this one haha
It wasn't parked, it fukn died.....
I'd like to thank YOU and every EV owner for contributing to my Coal Futures. It's going to be a WONDERFUL CHRISTMAS 😎
Quantifying metrics to charge electric vehicles, and the costs of it should be made available to everyone just like gasoline. Prices at the gas stations are posted and miles per gallon are listed in the vehicles information.
Is this edition 1? Or the base trim?
Nice, Kyle! I think the gross capacity is lower than people think. In fact, it might not have a buffer at all. The NCMA Ultium cells are supposed to be ~100 Ah, so depending on nominal voltage (3.65 to 3.7 V per cell), the gross capacity might only be 213 kWh.
Does this car have an OBD II port? Wonder if any rich enthusiast will find the PID codes for cell voltage, temperatures, component powers etc like they did with the cheaper Chevy Bolt EV and Chevy Spark EV
I believe it's more like 217-222 kWh.
@@Infinion The OBD2 codes for capacity are, in my experience, extremely unreliable. In my Bolt EV, I was seeing a +/- 5 kWh margin of error in reported capacity. I found the car's Energy Usage screen to be far more accurate at tracking capacity with a +/- 1 kWh margin of error.
@@Nebula1701 Okay, so it looks like the pack is 219.5 kWh gross.
I can't speak to the accuracy of the claims, but based on a couple of online sources, the cells are 103 Ah with a 3.7 V nominal capacity. So 576 cells would have a total gross capacity of 219.5 kWh.
@@newscoulomb3705 Yeah that's what I've been noticing for the Spark EV (Bolt EV PIDs are compatible). For example it suggested 14.3 kWh when the Energy Usage screen showed I dissipated closer to 14.8 kWh. That 500 Wh accounts for a 10% variance.
edit: and that was from 100% to 3.99%
Gotta love the hummer 😂 personally, I’ll stick with gas. I drive cars for amusement, not just to get somewhere quick.
Have you driven a Telsa? They are very fun to drive, especially the performance versions.
@@vasil7410 have you heard the the beautiful sound of a 6.2 turbo charged Hemi with borla exhaust? 😎
Ive been trying to live as energy efficient as I can in the big city. I typically use 15-20kwh a day running fans, lights, laptops, and dehumidifiers (a must have in the NW). This hummer EVs battery pack could power my house for up to two weeks!
FYI every hour you run 6.5amps you are using 1 KWH.
another great video kyle! the hummer ev is definitely not for everyone. but ev’s are!
We are not ready to transition to electric vehicles. I am curious what is actually powering the charging stations. It's it coal? Free for the user but what is the real costs on the backend. Is it any better for the environment?
Go look at the hole in the ground for the battery lol
Aluminum comes from bauxite. If you are familiar with the process of getting the aluminum from the bauxite you have to wonder how many acres of solar panels it would require. I worked in an aluminum plant for years. Our monthly electric bill ran $250,000 to $300,000.
How many solar panels are needed to cover that bill?
The power plants are burning natural gas around here
Yes and no, coal is better than a bunch of ICEs(not to mention refining gasoline) but still not great once you factor in the cost of emissions to make the EV
EV charging stations are a great reason why we should be expanding nuclear power stations. If they are delusional enough to think ICE sales will be banned by 2035 imagine how many charging stations will have to go up and how many cities will have Megawatts of power being pulled from the grid in one square block areas a day. I could see some dense cities needing to provide a gigawatt per square mile. This will also be a terrorists wet dream.
Course not. Come on man!
That will be a great looking truck when someone comes out with the conversion kit to strip out the battery and put in a diesel.
Charge point chargers (even though slower by quit a bit) cost 1/3 less that Electrify America. They changed their pricing last year. I have an EV6 and used to charge from to 80% for $11, now it’s like $32.
About half their chargers don’t even work though
What's the electric cost 🤔 around Colorado per KWT? Im at .11 at Dallas TX, I wanted to move to Colorado Springs CO. 😊
EA charger screen showed $102.31 member savings screen, does that mean if you weren’t a member, cost would have been over $198? Also, let’s discuss EA raising rates when they offer chargers that work consistently.😊
No, the member savings it shows brought the price down to $0. It's because it was on free vend, that's the way they show it.
Loveland, CO has a 6.7% sales tax (local and state combined) so that brings the price to $102.77 and $74.09, respectively. Dunno why the screen showed a few cents off though (Perhaps tax rate is not exactly 6.7% but that's what Google tells me)
@@Smidge204 Thank you, I couldn't understand why member savings was different than charging amount.
Yes. About the same as gas guzzler
@@williamerazo3921 pretty unbelievable, my f150 takes less $65 to fill now and goes 380mi on average.... But it's almost 1/2 the weight of this thing.
(Yes I know home charging is cheaper)
My buddy canceled his order for the EV Hummer when he found out he could not tow behind his RV. This vehicle needs an MCS connector like Atilis and Cummins is using.
Facts!!!
Trash lol
flatbed tow only
buy fukky ev rv winabego
I test drove the Hummer. It's insane. Someone dropping a 130k plus, one the Hummer III, is not need to worry about $100. This person likely has solar and an AC charger at home. You wake up and it's fully charged by morning. I have an Audi ETRON. get about 170 at the end of the day. I may use 50 miles a day and plug it in at home. 3 hours and it's back to full.
For comparison to fill up a Hummer H2 with the 32 gallon tank @3.00 gallon current price about $96! yikes to both of these fuel costs. But lets remember if you charged this overnight at home ....well for me it would only cost about $25
I really appreciate your honest real world evaluation. Most people have absolutely no idea what they are in for. 😃👍
I didn't even bother to watch the click baiting video and just did a google search of, "how much to fully charge Hummer EV" that took two seconds to do. It seems at some fast charging stations like, Electrify America, it does cost about 100 bucks, but at some other charging stations that charge by the minute, it would only cost $50 or $37 depending on a person's plan. If you charge at home, it only costs $16 -$30 to fully charge. So this is why people need to actually fact check BS videos like this.
A quick tip for tesla users, am sure most of you may already know this, If not - Try supercharging between morning 7-10 AM / 11.00 AM or in the evening after 8.00 PM. superchargers especially in the cities have this option of double price if you are charging between 11.00 AM - 7.59 PM. I saw super chargers in NY city that said $0.23 KWH if charging in the morning or evening, but $0.56 if charging during the day.
I'll just own a gas car and fill up whenever the fuck I want
Normal in California…
@@OhLinux based activity 👍🏼⛽🚀
@brando….
Go ahead and pay $6 for gas or higher for diesel . Hope u have a hybrid or civic
They made the cheap charging times unreasonable for superchargers in California. Off peak ends at 8am and doesn't start till 12am. It used to be 10am ended off peak and 10pm started off peak.
always - great fun facts!
Note: If you have a EV ensure you buy in advance the AAA Platinum Titanium Black Express+ Towing package. To include the extended range UBER package. Because you will need it constantly.
The Hummer has pack switching and that causes drops during charge sessions. The two packs are in series for 800V and the HVAC runs on 400V, so they switch to keep the two halves balanced
Should have gone straight to 800v for this amount of price
Totally agree. People dont realize the strain that fast charging puts on the grid as it is. The newly proposed mega chargers have the same draw on the grid as 4000 homes in real time. To support high amounts of fast charging the grid needs to project high amount of electricity usage and keep ramped up on electrical production to provide the real time need further increasing power plant emissions.
@@williamerazo3921 The benefit is they can use the same electronics in their cheaper Ultium vehicles.
At the current price of gas. I can fill up my 2011 Chevy Silverado with 2 tanks of gas for about $ 140 bucks and I don’t have to sit and wait for hours to refill it or worry about finding a place to refuel it . And I can also bring extra gas in cans for going off road . In my opinion the EVs available now are like toys . I guess they are great if you only use them in town . But actually traveling or going off road in a EV isn’t practical and would be a huge inconvenience that would eat up your time traveling.
And you don't even mention the fact that you can probably average 400-500 miles on a single tank of gas in highway driving. You could get from LA to San Francisco on a single tank and in about 6 hours. It would take 8-10 hours in an EV.
ev silardado
People see Tesla as a poster child for ev‘s but in fact they represent a revolution in car technology that also happens to be fully electric.
Many other brands and other charging network approaches are electric mobility ordered on wish.
I wonder if it’s complimentary charge because of a communication problem with the payment services from that charger. In other words, it keeps the ability the charge open even when you don’t have the ability to pay. Seems like a long shot, but keeping the customer experience high May pay off better than closing a charger while they work out a simple fix for that charger.
It's probably something else, but I agree they could stand to benefit from some positive customer experience.
I'm hoping to get an EV soon, but one of the things keeping me a little hesitant is the maturity of DC charging - not in terms of just geographical coverage and equipment reliability but also getting the payment systems and stupid mobile apps to actually work properly all the time.
@@ailivac yes. It’s still a little wonky depending. Tesla supercharging is solid. Some places have super old and slow chargers. Most of the time you don’t need to charge. Only on road trips. Still using my hybrid for road trips.
Electric companies will eventually make a separate tariff for EV charging and will be more expensive than fuel.
I agree. Once everyone is onboard, lookout!
It is. On another of these videos the charing price was 31 cents per kWHr. Compare with 12 -13 cents per kWHr for home electricity
I'm pretty sure of that, the only unknown is exactly when that will happen, probably around when there are slightly more EVs than ICE cars on the road, at the latest...
How much to replace batteries?
I considered an EV, I live in a condo with a parking lots and no garages, so I can't overnight charge, then the salesman explained to me the seven different rates that I could charge at. I got back in my v6 Camry and realized how good I have it. EV??? nEVer.
gross is the best description, we need efficient transport
Amen
Imagine this trend continuing where all trucks had a bloated 120-360 kWh of battery capacity. It would take 1000 years of global mining production to replace maybe 1/5th of all fossil trucks just to make the range feel practical. I agree with Kyle that this is GM's Halo car for their Ultium battery architecture. I really don't get why it had to be pure BEM, efficient fuel generators as range extenders are already hitting 39-42% efficiency for petrol AND non petrol fuels (opposed piston and free-piston) and that's with zero waste heat recovery.
Now get a Powerwall and a Lightning with two way power, and you can start trucking home all that free power!
"Honey, we're getting low on power. Can you run to the shopping center and get some for us? And try to get a lot this time."
🤣
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Here, the cost per KWH is 20 cents - in some states the cost is half this. For me the cost of 224KWh would be $44 (in Idaho or Louisiana it would be ~$20.)
UA-camr Duke of Manville newest video figured out his EV cost 2X as much to fill compared to a gas powered "I was shocked to learn that charging my electric car costs 2x as much at a Tesla Supercharger, and a new GM Energy public charging as it would have if I filled it with gas. High electric vehicle charging prices will hurt EV adoption if it is cheaper to fill up with gas than to charge up electricity at a public charger."
In Ontario Electrify Canada can’t charge by kWh (due to a law that states only the hydro company can charge by kwh)
So we are charged by time which is around $20 /hr.
Thanks for sharing that fact, I didn't know that!
So, if a charge takes 2.5 hours, then that would be $50.00. Wow, not so cheap is that.
Thought about getting an ev thanks for changing my mind
Just WOW! Im glad the dude is impressed. Free Hummer? Gee! WOW!
In Europe, you can have 22kW on AC, and Renault Zoe could do 43kW (230Vx3 phases at 63A).
they look very appealing right now, but they haven't started adding in tax, not to mention as more people buy ev's the demand for electric will go up along with the cost
On top of that states will need to find new ways to fund road repairs. Look for much higher registration fees and/or an EV road tax in the coming years.
Note to self: If you’re going to drain the battery by running the heater, make sure you cool the cabin temperature below freezing so you don’t fall asleep after two hours and 45 minutes of charging. 🤭😁 Nice perspective. You need an extra day to do the 0-100 AC charge test. 😉
Just wait till he has to pay for a new battery and also pay for the disposal of the bad battery..
@@gaylenewood7707 lets be real that’s gonna be the third owners problem .
Darn it, guys, please don’t blog while under the influence of,…whatever it was.
Any idea how much the Hummer battery costs? The prices I've seen for replacement batteries for smaller cars with 100kWhr capacities or smaller is $20K to over $60K which would make the Hummer battery in the $50K-$150K range. The Hyundai IoniQ 5 battery, less than 80kWHr, is $56K for the battery and with labor and other costs the total is over $60K -- more than the entire cost of the car brand new. The price per mile might be 1/2 or even 1/4 of gas/diesel, but if the battery is going to cost more than the car then the modest per mile saving are entirely overwhelmed by maintenance costs.
If you own the car for, say, 4 years, and you then try to sell the car how much is it worth if the new owner has to shell out more than new money for a used cars replacement battery. This is going to make resale value drop of the table as no one wants to buy a used car and then shell out more money than a new car just to replace the battery. If you keep the car longer than, say, 4 years then you might reach a point where you either have to replace the battery at insane prices OR to throw the car away.
Charging costs depend on what city you're in. My tesla only costs me about $15 per month on our home charger and in a worst case scenario where I have to use a supercharger it only costs me about $10 maximum in the city I charge
That’s just wild! I have a Bolt EUV on order and people think that’ll cost a lot to charge… imagine if they saw a $170
bill! Then a $0 one, lol!
Took delivery of my 22' EUV a little over a month ago, love it! Got a premier with Sun/sound/super cruise. All my charging is at home on the 32A EVSE that came with the car. Rates are 9.5 cents per kWh (delivered after taxes and fees) Only costs me a bit over $6 to go from 0 -> 100% and I'm seeing about 245 miles of range with the Cross Climate 2 tires I put on it.
@@toxin440 Nice.
@@toxin440 For now.... Wait until the majority of people are driving EV.
Great. On a trip charge up with a 5% reserve. Run into a snow storm and get stuck in the middle of the highway. Great plan. All of this is just too dangerous if you are away from major routes or cities when winter is real. I want to know what -40° does to charging and range. Also, is this thing one of the ones that locks up if the battery has no power left? Some of them do, and if they die in the middle of the road in a traffic jam it takes a crane to clear the road. Hardly a good idea.
Here in Scotland charging that beast of a vehicle from 0 to 100% using the public chargers in Highlands Scotland would cost 200x0.82p which is £164 or at today's exchane rate $208 US. Ouch!!
Thank you for your research and honesty. How much was the EV? How much in the insurance? Time is money, who has 2.5 hrs to sit and wait to be robbed at a charging station at midnight? Oh, and it takes $100. How are you going to recycle that massive battery when it's life is over? Not so green after all but it is a nice status symbol.
I would like to see how well you do driving it through New Mexico say go across then start from the Mexico border and go north through the Gila Mountains. Then cross Colorado through Kansas. Be interesting to see how far you can go, time spent driving, time stopped to charge and total trip time vs a gas powered Hummer. Another good test would be 2 pick-ups 1 gas and 1 electric in a farming/ranch situation. Hauling hay, trailers, equipment, run to town for parts etc
Yeah, there's all that, and then there's the reality of how MOST people drive, which is around town, running errands, etc. If you're a farmer, then stick to your diesel.
Yea, because so many people make that exact trip every day