Bruh because the 2000 player played in the slowest era teams averaging like 90 a game vs today paint wide open teams average 120. Of course they’d average more points in todays era
So more defense played back in the day they didn’t want to get embarrassed I’m sorry today is game is like yeah coach he beat on first step so I gave up.
Brandon aint that crazy Gil here trying to say since Harden avg 35 on 450 dribbles in todays NBA that AI should avg about 105 a game on 450 dribbles cause he avg 30 on 130 😂😂
@ssjsal2159 You sound like a newbie to 🏀. There are literally no new crossovers today.. Defenders back then just wouldn't let you sit there and play with the ball too much.
Hardcore Iverson fan, after Jordan he and Kobe kept basketball alive with kids in Jamaica, BUT. if you think Iverson would walk around these bionic kids in the NBA u lost your damn mind. Nobody is slow nowadays, he would 100% need to get a long range heater to have even the same impact.
And AI couldn't shoot. They weren't playing that much zone in those days. It's since LeBron's first finals that zone became a thing. They're crazy if they really believe what they're saying
I think you guys are missing the point.. when AI played, the floor was compact, and yes the pace was slow..AI didn't play slow...today's game is wayyy more faster and the floor is spread out more..in today's game he would get more FG attempts and because he has more midrange than James Harden, yes give a sreal r two then there is possible 6 to 8 points..he went to the line in his hey day mostly because he was getting bump around in the paint but if Harden ave 13 FTs and you give AI at least 10 in its possible...
Ik it's a joke but 143 is crazy considering that's not far from what teams on average giving up defensively (114.7 ppg)this number is from last year btw
If you need more dribbles = more effective shots. then Less dribbles = Less effective shots. Harden would've been taking 40shots a game on a 34% shooting percentage. That's not good.
Oh, more OPPORTUNITES ?? So you're admiting it also could be potentially no TOs, Charges and bad shots? Maybe I should become an NBA coach and just tell the team, just dribble less....... That's the ball.
@@kieranj1332 The idea is, rushing shots likely means, moving screens (TOs), dribbling into traffic, no center/ forward set in place for an offensive rebound, more player Fatigue and bad shots. There is a reason D'antoni didn't win a ring, he didn't have the talent.
So AI's highest average was 33 ppg in 05 -06. In today's less defensive and 3 ball NBA, can we give him 2 more 3s and 2 trips to the line? Reasonable? That's 10 points. He's at 43. Now imagine MJ!!! 🤯
Not reasonable at all lol. AI shot 30% from 3. For him to make 2 more 3s he needs to take 6 more shots. In the season you’re talking about he took 25 shots a game! Which sane coach would let him take 31? The most anyone takes in the league today is 22 field goals a game, and that’s only Luka. Most elite scorers take around 18.
That’s honestly the most important part of playing basketball. If it doesn’t result in winning then you gotta come up with a better game plan. AI may could score that much but they definitely not winning a championship having him do that.
@@him37404have you seen defensive coverages today??? AI can simply call 5 out with a high pick and roll, how the fuck do you stop him going downhill? You cannot camp the paint anymore. 😂😂😂
They didn’t point it out but Brandon made their point by mentioning Wilt Chamberlain. He said Wilt was the only one to average over 40, well Wilt didn’t waste time dribbling, he would dive straight to the basket and get into position.
No that proves his point. More dribbling means less scoring attempts. Their whole premise contradicts their argument. lol we can’t be that slow to think if you dribble more that means you will score more. The more you dribble the more time is wasting off. Then you still have to account for the time on defense. James harden actually hurts his self and his team from getting more possessions and scoring attempts because when the ball is in his hands you will lose 10 seconds off the clock. Lol
The biggest point that’s going over a lot of heads is that AI’s mentality of the game is way different from harden, KD, and curry. His mind was fuck everyone else ima get a bucket regardless. Kobe said it himself that AI would be the greatest basketball player in history if he was 4 inch taller
@@dafyyyyyyits not fact that kobe said it its simply the truth. Only thing missing on ai resume is a ring. He was neck n neck with kobe n mj in pure greatness just didnt have the support like them. Everybody i know & nba players voted their all time top 5 & ai was in everybody top 5. Not kareem, not magic, not duncan but ai was in Nba players top 5 when they did a vote. One ring u can put ai in the top 10. Just one lol
1. Michael Jordan 2. Kobe Bryant 3. Allen Iverson 4. Reggie Miller 5. Dwayne Wade 6. Ray Allen 7. Tracy McGrady 8. James Harden 9. Clyde Drexler 10. Manu Ginobli In that order. No need for an argument.
@@minjlew Who you think I’m the current NBA about to let a dude shoot 50 times every game? No sir, every one is too talented now. He only got away with that bc he literally was the only offense
Allen Iverson 2000-2001 season averaged 31.1 PPG which lead all players that year on the 76ers team that averaged 94.7 which was 15th that year as a whole now put that A.I. in today's game where the 30th ranked PPG team (Portland Trail Blazers) is averaging 14 more points than that 76ers squad
In that year, he also shot 42% from the field and 32% from three. In today's NBA if you can't hit threes and are struggle to score efficiently, they wont even run plays for you
@@SamuelJ888 Not true. Russell Westbrook was the MVP, Giannis was the MVP. Jimmy Butler is consistently one of the most dangerous players in the league. Damian Lilliard and Trae Young consistently shoot 42% from the field and are the main guards on their team and have led their teams to success. In that era 32% from 3 was league average similar to 35% in todays game. Its much easier to shoot 40% from 3 when you take 10 attempts as opposed to 4 attempts. Your hit 2 of 4 your 50% from 3 or you miss 1 shot and now your 25% and look like a horrible shooter, whereas the person who took 10 3's missed 6 threes and only hit 4 and is looked at as great. Your not convincing anyone with that poor arguement
Yes indeed. I think IVERSON must’ve banged his girl, not gave him daps or respect at an event, or didnt acknowledge him somewhere and Brandon probably butt hurt cause he idolized AI. So he’s forever hurt now ✌🏾😂✌🏾 especially having AI posters all over his bedroom wall. AND BRANDON WORE #3 😂😂😂✌🏾
@@YouReallyDontKnowKD my favorite player and he doesn’t “want” to score. He’s an efficiency demon if he put up 30 shots a game like the players from the 2000s I could agree
@@YouReallyDontKnowi mean let’s be realistic. Really KD luka and them should be lightyears ahead of there competition since they’re so great already? Cause that’s what ya’ll saying is that everyone in today’s league is way better than everyone back then😂😂 so why isn’t KD dropping 30 PPG? His ceiling should be astronomical 😭
@@troylee4196false he played thru injures. Also he averaged 6.2 assist. So he will pass that bitch but, because of the space. He would score easy. Plus there is no physicality like when he played.
Watch how slow an NBA game is from Iverson's era. No way in hell is he playing 40 minutes a game today when he has to chase shooters and run around screens all game.
Exactly. Him playing faster and then playing defense on someone playing fast too is PLENTY of Fatigue. Plus, what happens when you force AI to guard mismatches when he plays D?
@@kig4794AI isnt the playmaker those guys are so their lack of defense isnt going to be that big of an issue as iverson whos also a bigger liability on defense cause of his size.
But he shouldnt have because he was a horrible shooter. Kd scoring titles are on like 49% shooting with the three ball. Iverson was just allowed to sell tickets. And as someone from philly i feel the same about embiid. Player who have glaringly large holes in their games(embiid is he cant play many.) yet still are hyped up because people cant think past empty stats.
@@iamrysheem 49 percent is nice, i would respect it more if it didnt require 3s to get that high though, and a higher volume, its easy to score a higher percentage when you can swap out shooting for dunking if you want, iverson didnt have that luxury all of his attempts were some kind of shot, and against way tougher defense.
@@gangstagummybear3432 the crazy thing is people actually liked your reply. 3 point shooting actually drags down the shooting percentage. Its a harder shot to make. He’s 6’11”. If he scored less than 50 percent at the basket thats a problem. What you said in response to me makes no sense.
@@iamrysheem It isnt a harder shot to make, not in the current era, thanks to the spacing, with its volume being so much lower than 2's it is going to be a higher impact on the total field goal percentage even if you only make 40% of them, the mid range areas are harder guarded so that makes the mid range alot harder to shoot, the proof is in the pudding, with the influx of swapping out high volume 2s for lower volume of total shots, but more 3s all the field goal percentages have gotten higher, what I said in response makes total sense if you have a brain.
They are just talking about the mentality AI had. He, Kobe and MJ were trying to score the ball, no games just get a bucket. And guys like that were relentless even while being knocked down many times by real rim protectors that loved to hit people. There wasn't as much space back then and so someone was always near in the paint.
AI stamina was something else. But he also didn't waste energy playing defense. His teammates were solid on ball defenders. AI had those long arms and would lurk playing the passing lanes. AI would cross you once maybe twice and go.
@sakpase88 what's the point of spacing if you not passing... sooner or later they gonna see.. hey he not passing out of double teams.... send the triple
This is true .. 42 year old hooper here. "if I Get it, I am going!" I will catch the ball from a curl or a pin down and take 2-3 dribbles to a particular spot (elbow or nail for me) quick pull up or attack down hill to a pro hop step, contact lay or and-1 or foul. Young cats say, "take ur time. just pull it out and dribble" WHY? Why PULL it back for a dribble combo when I am coming off a curl or pin down 10-12 feet from the basket to move further back to go full 2K mode. Or, I look up all 4 dudes are on the wings just looking, no slot cuts from weak side, nobody is moving just waiting for me to dribble > drive and kick out for a 3 OR for them spam into a dribble package making the possession way harder to score... I've adapted but there are moments when I have say keep the game simple. Playing defense now, Oh my lamb! That's another topic lol. Peace and blessings to all hoopers out there. Stop this 80s v 90s 90s v now. I think we're the only sports and culture that does this, lol.
he averaged 30 with 25 shots🤣 and thats against those slow big guys who cant guard the perimeter and run around with him,so to get that much he needs atleast 30 shots and what damn player getting that a game? makes 0 sense,the guy was just a worst shooting kyrie in that era
@@bruggyteeexactly,or he would just be chucking up shots on a losing team which wouldnt last long,because in the NBA today you need 2 all start level talents and no one gonna want to play with a man just taking all those shots
@@SunniChampAI only crossover to his right and the so called hardest defensive era don't know that. Up until Patrick Beverly said that to AI. Watch it in Shaq's podcast.
You also have to take into account that when he was driving to the lane there were two bigs trying to stop him. Those missed layups had an effect on his fg %. Today there wouldn’t be anyone there besides guys like Gobert and a couple other bigs.
So coaches and defenders would just sit and watch him get 40 every night. Is that what you guys think? Prime James Harden was arguably the most unguardable player in NBA history and he played close to 81 games a season and he couldn't get past 36 points. Old geezers on steroids. These guys are rewriting history. Fox, John wall, DRose, WestbrooK super fast, more athletic, bigger than Iverson don't even come close to 35 ppg. Giannis comes at you every possession and he is less than 30. Iverson would be so tired chasing players on defense and getting posted up by bigger guards that he would be throwing up air balls. Coaches would put AI on pick and rolls and post him up to death. AI would be so tired mid season he would load manage.
fox, John wall, and drose are bad comps. okc Westbrook without Durant (or without pg) is an ok comp because of relentlessness. giannis is also an ok comp for same reason. not sure about AI getting worn down. he was the most in shape player for many years in a row. All this to say, I don't think he'd average 45. Maybe 40 cause his relentlessness and cause his team strategy required that he take 25+ shots a game
James Harden dribbles till the shot clock goes close to 0. While Iverson would have got 2 extra possessions. 6-8 points extra for Iverson on the other hand Harden gets 3-5 points.
Salute to Brandon for using his brain and not getting caught up in the hype. Averaging 43 points means putting 40 on the board basically every night. There’s a reason guys don’t do it now. It takes too much energy. And it goes against the natural flow of the game. Iverson would be going 1 on 2 or 1 on 3 all game long. That makes no sense. Finally Iverson was not a great shooter. His scoring output came with a lot of missed shots. He’d probably need 40 shots a night to average 43. It’s just not happening;
You have no idea what you’re talking about, sorry. The reason guys aren’t doing it now is because there’s more talented scorers on the team they play on. AI was an energizer bunny and would put it all on the floor every night so that’s not an issue. And he was being bodied by big, hands on, and aggressive type of defensive play styles so of course his percentage would be lower. You take today’s game with his play and he’s easily dominating.
I come from that era and I hate these conversations, the average players today are far better than the average of yesterday. He would not score 40 a night, the superstars of yesterday were light-years away from the average players. That's not happening today
@@stayyourpath So AI in today's game will just magically be a more efficent shooter? No one is gonna notice he can't shoot 3s, is always going to the basket and the team will forget to clog the paint? No one is gonna notice his teammates aren't big offensive threats and start to trap him or double him? He gonna play 48 minutes and not get tired? or is he gonna play his career average minutes at a faster rate and not get tired? He's a 6 foot guy, you mean to tell me no team is looking at him as a defensive liabilty and putting him in mismatches and going to force his coach to sub him?
I swear these old heads think anyone back in the day scoring 10 more ppg just because the game is different like the guys now aren’t more skilled more athletic and longer overall
They forgetting part of the reason harden was successful with all of those dribbles is it naturally lulls you to sleep before he kills you with a deadly quick step back or a easy blow by
They act like today’s best players can’t touch AI offensively. Y’all complain when Luka or Harden have the ball a lot tf you think AI is gonna do? and without a jump shot? Lol
@@mistadavis4336Yes he was lol plus his FG% and TS% was lower than the previous players mentioned. So he’d have to shoot the ball more than them to even get the numbers they got. And now you’re telling me he would score 10 plus more points per game, on worse efficiency? So you want dude to shoot the ball 35 times a game basically 🤣🤣🤣
Praising ball hogging and shot chucking is so funny to me , if any coach allowed iverson to throw up 40 shots a night in todays game they should be fired immediately
Most of the viewers of Gil's Arena have never watched Iverson beyond highlights or any players from before 2015... So if you were not able to witness something its hard for you to fathom the idea that something was better than what you are receiving currently... I get it...
@@aramos888 it's literally players today who scored the basketball better than AI ever did and they not averaging 40 stop with this killer instinct shit dawg
@@901_koro_sensei3 i agree and look what they are doing. When AI did it the teams were averaging like 97 ppg. Yall dont understand what im saying. He’ll smell these weak ass defenses and come out w the mindset to try and get 50 every night and be mad if he couldn’t because he knows how weak it is. Ts.
You're telling me right now A.I would be averaging more points than 7'0 300 pound joel embiid who shoots 88% from the ft line and 37% from 3?? You're out of your mind bro people need to stop this 😂😂😭, i wish one day someone would come on here and be honest and be like like "you know actually he'd probably average the same amount of points as he did back then cause he couldnt shoot threes so guys would just sag off of him which would ruin the rest of the offensive action like the pick and roll so yeah he played in the perfect era" 😂
But you have to do era adjustment...embiid in those 90-2000s era ain't shooting those 3s like that either he would have had to take his big ass down on the block and also be defender ... so you have to era adjust A.I for today's game ... I'm not saying 40pts but dammit it would be close
Exactly. Even if Steph or KD or any other great scorer played on a bad team, they still wouldn't average 43. So this argument makes no sense. They'd average 30 to 36 at most.
So because his mentality is different he’s gonna score more than the most efficient scorers 💀 give me a break. He’s gonna chuck up more shots and miss even more than he averaging before
That dribble stat won the argument for Iverson because he would have way more possessions which means more shooting attempts which means it’s likely he can score 40+ ppg.
More shot attempts? He already shot 25 shots a game. One year he even shot 28 shots a game. I highly doubt he’s gonna take 30+ shots a game in today’s league.
bro don't like James dribbled more because he took 50 years of the shot clock to do a stepback or make a shot lets not act like he was playing like a true pg he's a sg that playes the pg
I think it's like 3-5 players in NBA history that could've put up 40+ppg if they wanted to, in this era. With so much small ball play and very little focus on interior Defense/ Defenders. Prime-MJ, Wilt, Shaq, Kareem, and Kobe. and a few more that might come close. Like AI...
This is an insane take. If Embiid isn't averaging 40+ then Wilt, Shaq and Kareem not doing it either. I think people are confusing scoring 40 with averaging 40. It's crazy difficult to average 40 points over 82 games.
MJ didn’t do it when they had “illegal defensive rules” what makes y’all believe he would do it today? Todays defense is more advanced. Jordan never seen a zone defense
The saddest part about this is that they’re talking about the biggest problem with the NBA today without actually saying it competitiveness in the lack of defense and physicality, has water down this game
@@901_koro_sensei3bruv AI literally had that mamba mentality, it’s like we’re comparing two different eras and rules. AI today would be a baller, he’s going to stay at the free throw line due to defensive fouls, plus the whole team would basically make a plan to him that’s their focus.
@@901_koro_sensei3 They arent no better scorers than AI, you bums current day mistake the fact these guys are putting up 3s so much for being better scorers, til they swap out their shot chart for Iverson's and prove they can do better than Iverson with his own shot chart, they are just special at scoring with the new trash age defense that allows luka to put up 70 plus points
Is starting to become annoying how godly they making AI look. Yeah he was something special but he wasn't a good shooter he not taking 100 layups not in this era.
@GodSon91 brother I'm 35 lmaoo that was my favorite player and Steve Nash. I'm speaking from actually seeing AI he was great af not godly he was tough and durable not out of this world. These days he's mid at best his heart will be gold but his skill mid. That's no lie stop Cap'n
When you see AI highlights all you see is layups and crossovers nothing else a few shots here and there nothing where is crazy cause he sucked at shooting.
Wait whatttttttt bruh are u serious basketball is basketball bruh you supposed to shoot & score don’t matter how u do it my guy he accomplished a lot doing it as well…..😂😂😂😂
@TGTBTUPoddy definitely not. If LEBRON, KD, STEPH, KYRIE etc. some of the best shooter and scorers basketball has ever seen not doin it, AI definitely aint.
@@TGTBTUPoddyIverson is exactly why I picked up a ball, wore a headband, and got cornrows and I say he’s definitely not averaging 43. Saw his whole career
aint no way he getting 45, without being a great 3pt shooter, thats like 30+ shots, with 5+ FTs on efficient shooting teammates couldn’t get into a rhythm, and thats just easy target on defense for great playmakers nowadays
@@jellyfishbrained that’s not gaming the algorithm because its not clickbait his name is Allen Iverson they don’t put videos up to get less views you troll
@@ohiomadejay well everyone is taking it literally, that math works with anyone, if they take less dribbles and play off the ball and shoot. Look at klay or curry that’s their bread and butter
Are we done with the 2000s yet? I'm tired of these people constantly throwing out names saying they'd average 40 in today's game when the player struggle it shoot the 3 ball in their era...
id be surprised he would average 18. i wonder if he would even get drafted. AI a legend but im not trying to get a slashing mid range pg that scores first thats like 6feet tall
AI was relentless, with the floor spread and no bigs in his way, he's easily averaging 38 points a game. He's way faster than anyone they could put in front of him. His layup package was impeccable and he lived off his midrange.. He shot threes occasionally.. I think he would shoot no more than 6 threes a game... He was way rougher than anyone playing in todays game... 38 sounds good to me... Only because they would cut his minutes slightly even though he never got tired...
Are you serious... There isn't one person in the NBA faster than AI today.... Luka, Jokic are not athletes.... A 40 year old LeBron is killing this trash product
People saying mj would average 45 kill me. The defense couldn’t even shadow or zone. It was only man to man and if you didn’t hard double it’s a tech on the defense. You can’t soft double in the 80s or 90s
@@kyleflores9385the problem with people who say things like this is he was already averaging 35-37 while getting the shit beat out him. They hard fouled him every time. He just put on muscle. Mj is a 10x scoring champ. Even with the 3 ball and game that are like 30-40 points higher than when he played. None of these new player have come close to his average. Im sorry MJ was a uber competitive psychopath. He’d fuck around and start shooting 3’s. You cant even say players today are more athletic because he still has the highest recorded vertical in the nba. He also was a great two way player. He went hard on defense and still would drop 40. These new guys do not have that kind of energy. Im sorry. The mj hate is wild.
Allen Iverson was putting up averages of 26 to 33 PPG on teams that couldn't crack 95 letting on 100 PPG in most seasons and y'all saying that feat is out of this realm where every team is putting up an average of 108 points or better this year😂😂😂
I love AI but y'all gotta stop capping. Because AI was undersized and had questionable shot selection he was inefficient as a scorer. There are some years where he's shooting 38-39% from the field. Not from 3, from the field. Seasons where he's shooting like 28% from 3. He was a 6'0 shooting guard playing 40 mins a night, taking 26 shots to average 30. Your shot attempts should never match your points. AI isn't averaging 40 bro. Stop it
@@stanleed.harold5457 even Kobe guarded him with too much respect he’d get the Russell Westbrook treatment but atleast Westbrook 6’4 with crazy athleticism ai 6 even he might average 25 on his best year
I watched this live the other day...but like I think It depends on his teammates.....if he was in Jordan poole situation where he has 100% control to create... And he put up 24-27 shots per game....he could definitely get close to 40 if not eclipse 40 ...with the pace and space of today's game I think ppl forget Iverson was doin what he was doing when scores was like 93-86 and it was considered a good game Now games are 126-117
The crazy thing is, he understood everything they were saying, but this is what it looks like when someone doesn't want to be wrong and it's sad coming from a man smh
I was a 5’11 SF in high school and college guarding 6’3+ players. Somehow I averaged 3 blocks, 7 rebounds, 23pts, & 8 assists. Size of the heart in basketball
Simply put the reason AI would score 45 in today’s game is cause when he played the defense always focused on him and had more than 1 body on him majority of the time like you practically got the whole opposite team guarding one guy and he still had a great average. You take away the defensive focus and maybe add someone that is scorer as well in today’s game with how defensive fouls are called he would definitely be balling.
You changing the question. If he comes back with the same team, the defense will still focus on him and he won't score no 40PPG. Put a equal caliber player along side him will be less shots for him, so no 40 PPG.
Gil is right though even McCants. This isn't about AI being better this is about his mentality and the fact he loved to shot the ball. His first 7 seasons included hand checking. No one is staying in front of him now. He also goes from 4 3pts a game to 8 to 10. On that alone he scores 6 more points. Prime AI was 33 a game, add just the 2 additional 3s he's 39. He doesn't have rim protectors meeting him at the basket so that's probably 2 to 3 more makes on his 2 point shots. So another 4 to 6 points. So he's getting 43 to 45 points a game. His style requires getting more fouls so he's getting more free throws. Today's league would benefit AI tremendously.
So basically he would have to take 31 or 32 shots a game to get his 40. Yea nobody is taking that many shots a game on average add on the the fact that if he’s playing in todays game he’s not averaging 43 mpg there’s no way any coach is allowing that. So basically there’s no way he’s averaging 40 in today’s league if he has to average 31 shot attempts in about 38 minutes of play time.
These 2000s players starting to sound like those 80s players they be arguing wit 😂😂😂😂 ironic
Bruh because the 2000 player played in the slowest era teams averaging like 90 a game vs today paint wide open teams average 120. Of course they’d average more points in todays era
We done with the 90s
It’s sad that 2000 was 20 years ago now , but every time i hear 20 years ago i think the 80s first 😅 damn we getting old
So more defense played back in the day they didn’t want to get embarrassed I’m sorry today is game is like yeah coach he beat on first step so I gave up.
@@moman36 yeah but your team ain’t winning nothing if you have to average over 35 ppg for a season.
AI was averaging 30 ppg when teams were averaging 90 ppg. Today teams are averaging 120 ppg
47 easy
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@@dennisgreen8608nah , he’d need a costar to compete like all the major contenders today , on a trash team he’d average like 42 tho
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& a.i. shot way lesser three point attempts,, imagine him putting up 13 a game like Harden,, 45 easily
That dude Brandon be smoking that good weed before the show😂😭
Had to be
high asl ain’t listening to nothing gil said
And then have the nerve to be upset lol
U not lying
Brandon aint that crazy Gil here trying to say since Harden avg 35 on 450 dribbles in todays NBA that AI should avg about 105 a game on 450 dribbles cause he avg 30 on 130 😂😂
Bring AI on the show
This is a must
Facts
Double that
Yes please 🙏🏿 because I am tired of this guy.
And Iverson would've been allowed to do his original crossover without getting calls
Dudes can guard that better today . Back then mfs couldn’t guard a crossover because dudes didn’t do it like that
@ssjsal2159 OH sure. These great defenders of today would be a problem 🤣🤣
@ssjsal2159 You sound like a newbie to 🏀. There are literally no new crossovers today.. Defenders back then just wouldn't let you sit there and play with the ball too much.
That’s cool, unless he magically becomes a sniper from 3 bro not putting up 40 regardless of whatever crossover he gonna do
@@ssjsal2159exactly the on ball defenders in todays game are on another level. more athletic, better fundamentals, more advanced moves.
Hardcore Iverson fan, after Jordan he and Kobe kept basketball alive with kids in Jamaica, BUT. if you think Iverson would walk around these bionic kids in the NBA u lost your damn mind. Nobody is slow nowadays, he would 100% need to get a long range heater to have even the same impact.
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And AI couldn't shoot. They weren't playing that much zone in those days. It's since LeBron's first finals that zone became a thing. They're crazy if they really believe what they're saying
@@jocelynlabbe9749 4 scoring titles and he couldnt shoot? lmao
I think you guys are missing the point.. when AI played, the floor was compact, and yes the pace was slow..AI didn't play slow...today's game is wayyy more faster and the floor is spread out more..in today's game he would get more FG attempts and because he has more midrange than James Harden, yes give a sreal r two then there is possible 6 to 8 points..he went to the line in his hey day mostly because he was getting bump around in the paint but if Harden ave 13 FTs and you give AI at least 10 in its possible...
I am sure AI would have averaged 143.5 points a game today.
😂😂
Ik it's a joke but 143 is crazy considering that's not far from what teams on average giving up defensively (114.7 ppg)this number is from last year btw
@@evileyevalauslmao my 2k10 player avrg 87ppg overall 99 😂
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Less dribbling= more possessions= more opportunities to score Damn Brandon, should’ve went to college 😭🤦🏽♂️😭😭😭
If you need more dribbles = more effective shots. then Less dribbles = Less effective shots. Harden would've been taking 40shots a game on a 34% shooting percentage. That's not good.
@@BrohamOmegamore effective? He’s dribbling in the same fucking spot 😂
More dribbles because he was the pg , meaning he brought the ball up the court. A.I didn’t bring the ball up the court. Eric Snow did.
Oh, more OPPORTUNITES ?? So you're admiting it also could be potentially no TOs, Charges and bad shots?
Maybe I should become an NBA coach and just tell the team, just dribble less....... That's the ball.
@@kieranj1332 The idea is, rushing shots likely means, moving screens (TOs), dribbling into traffic, no center/ forward set in place for an offensive rebound, more player Fatigue and bad shots.
There is a reason D'antoni didn't win a ring, he didn't have the talent.
So AI's highest average was 33 ppg in 05 -06. In today's less defensive and 3 ball NBA, can we give him 2 more 3s and 2 trips to the line? Reasonable? That's 10 points. He's at 43.
Now imagine MJ!!! 🤯
mj would averga ethe same if im being honest
More then that if u can't touch him
Not reasonable at all lol. AI shot 30% from 3. For him to make 2 more 3s he needs to take 6 more shots. In the season you’re talking about he took 25 shots a game! Which sane coach would let him take 31?
The most anyone takes in the league today is 22 field goals a game, and that’s only Luka. Most elite scorers take around 18.
@@randombutspecificany coach would. This is completely reasonable.
@@Mjuxtapose03 why would you do that when the team would score more if they distributed the shots more evenly? Efficiency matters
Jennings was losin the argument so he brought up “but is he goin to win tho” LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
That’s honestly the most important part of playing basketball. If it doesn’t result in winning then you gotta come up with a better game plan. AI may could score that much but they definitely not winning a championship having him do that.
Brandon was right. He's just not good at arguing.
Iverson was so inefficient…
why does it matter how much he would score if if don't translate to winning tho
@@him37404have you seen defensive coverages today??? AI can simply call 5 out with a high pick and roll, how the fuck do you stop him going downhill? You cannot camp the paint anymore. 😂😂😂
The obsession with older generations scoring 40+ is crazy
Yeah they claim every random role player back then would be a superstar today even role players is really delusional the nostalgia talk
@@ChrisJoestarrit’s not just nostalgia, players back then actually hustled, bled, and sweat every game. Everyone is soft and playing for highlights
@@ChrisJoestarr I KNOW YOU NOT CALLING AI RANDOM
@@issacwilson8331 did I say AI? I said random role players… for back then
@@stayyourpath Everyone is playing soft? 40k points comes easy now?
They didn’t point it out but Brandon made their point by mentioning Wilt Chamberlain. He said Wilt was the only one to average over 40, well Wilt didn’t waste time dribbling, he would dive straight to the basket and get into position.
No that proves his point. More dribbling means less scoring attempts. Their whole premise contradicts their argument. lol we can’t be that slow to think if you dribble more that means you will score more. The more you dribble the more time is wasting off. Then you still have to account for the time on defense. James harden actually hurts his self and his team from getting more possessions and scoring attempts because when the ball is in his hands you will lose 10 seconds off the clock. Lol
@@yayhayesu just said what they said
AI would avg 25 points just from the free throw line
He couldn’t go left. I’m not buying that
@@ImPapehungrymj couldnt either yet averaged 38 w no 3s
Y'all didn't watch Iverson play. No way in hell he's averaging 43!
@@CEO_Teezy that shit wouldn’t work today
@@ImPapehungrydumbest take ever.. He averaged 33 at a time when they could put hands on him and bigs were in the league.
The biggest point that’s going over a lot of heads is that AI’s mentality of the game is way different from harden, KD, and curry. His mind was fuck everyone else ima get a bucket regardless. Kobe said it himself that AI would be the greatest basketball player in history if he was 4 inch taller
Just bcs Kobe said it it dont mean shit bud
@@dafyyyyyyI’m tired of the Kobe glazing. Kobe is an all time great but there’s no reason to use his word to a basketball discussion
@@dafyyyyyyman 😂 act like his word is coming from a god or something lmao
@@dafyyyyyyits not fact that kobe said it its simply the truth. Only thing missing on ai resume is a ring. He was neck n neck with kobe n mj in pure greatness just didnt have the support like them. Everybody i know & nba players voted their all time top 5 & ai was in everybody top 5. Not kareem, not magic, not duncan but ai was in Nba players top 5 when they did a vote. One ring u can put ai in the top 10. Just one lol
Wouldn't he just be a 6' 4" guy shooting 31% from 3?
1. Michael Jordan
2. Kobe Bryant
3. Allen Iverson
4. Reggie Miller
5. Dwayne Wade
6. Ray Allen
7. Tracy McGrady
8. James Harden
9. Clyde Drexler
10. Manu Ginobli
In that order.
No need for an argument.
According to Gil, AI would shoot 45 times bc he dribbled less. Then of course he could average 40. They would lose every game
That’s a lot of the reason they lost back then! He was shooting to much lol
Y'all adding extra stuff. He aint say they would win. He just said he could get 40. AI would shoot 50 shots and not care at all about percentages. 😂
Dribble less my ass and uk he going right 😂😂😂
@@minjlew Who you think I’m the current NBA about to let a dude shoot 50 times every game? No sir, every one is too talented now. He only got away with that bc he literally was the only offense
@HeartOTC iverson sixers where top in the league when he was avging 30
WE DONE WITH THE 2000s 😂😂
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Trash ! Big trash!!
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WE DONE WITH 80s and magic johson BIG TRASH
Allen Iverson 2000-2001 season averaged 31.1 PPG which lead all players that year on the 76ers team that averaged 94.7 which was 15th that year as a whole now put that A.I. in today's game where the 30th ranked PPG team (Portland Trail Blazers) is averaging 14 more points than that 76ers squad
We’re putting ai in todays game not his team ..
In that year, he also shot 42% from the field and 32% from three. In today's NBA if you can't hit threes and are struggle to score efficiently, they wont even run plays for you
Also the bigs didn't play around the perimeter
@@SamuelJ888 Not true. Russell Westbrook was the MVP, Giannis was the MVP. Jimmy Butler is consistently one of the most dangerous players in the league. Damian Lilliard and Trae Young consistently shoot 42% from the field and are the main guards on their team and have led their teams to success. In that era 32% from 3 was league average similar to 35% in todays game. Its much easier to shoot 40% from 3 when you take 10 attempts as opposed to 4 attempts. Your hit 2 of 4 your 50% from 3 or you miss 1 shot and now your 25% and look like a horrible shooter, whereas the person who took 10 3's missed 6 threes and only hit 4 and is looked at as great. Your not convincing anyone with that poor arguement
@@DavidDouglas-so9sn I stopped reading after you mentioned Giannis name when I said efficiency
He called bro “Sippy Cup” 😂😂😂💀
Crying 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭
Everybody is so skilled now and nobody is touching that smh
They are more skilled but there will power is weak
Embiid and Harden have come pretty close.
@@jellyfishbrained36 ain't 43 tbh
FOR SOMEONE TO AVERAGE 43 POINTS THEY WOULD HAVE TO SHOOT THE BALL 32 TIMES A GAME AND 13 FREE THROWS A GAME. THATS INSANE
skills dont matter when u dont have the correct mindset
I think it’s hard to articulate how quick and fast AI was.
BJ is literally a iverson hater you remember he said Mike Connelly would cook AI 😂
Facts
Yes indeed. I think IVERSON must’ve banged his girl, not gave him daps or respect at an event, or didnt acknowledge him somewhere and Brandon probably butt hurt cause he idolized AI. So he’s forever hurt now ✌🏾😂✌🏾 especially having AI posters all over his bedroom wall. AND BRANDON WORE #3 😂😂😂✌🏾
Mike Who 🙄ok we taking this Mike shit to far 😂😅
Players today “Like” to score. Players like AI,Kobe and Jordan “Want” to score……. There’s a big difference between Like and Want.
You’re stupid if you think players like KD, Luka and SGA don’t WANT to score 😂
So with all that money available, all that at fame, players just leaving all that bread on the table?
@@YouReallyDontKnowKD my favorite player and he doesn’t “want” to score. He’s an efficiency demon if he put up 30 shots a game like the players from the 2000s I could agree
@@YouReallyDontKnowi mean let’s be realistic. Really KD luka and them should be lightyears ahead of there competition since they’re so great already? Cause that’s what ya’ll saying is that everyone in today’s league is way better than everyone back then😂😂 so why isn’t KD dropping 30 PPG? His ceiling should be astronomical 😭
He averaged 33 points in a zone defense, he can get 7 more points with today’s game structure
And the team will go 20-62
Dude will get injured trying to score rather than win
@@troylee4196false he played thru injures. Also he averaged 6.2 assist. So he will pass that bitch but, because of the space. He would score easy. Plus there is no physicality like when he played.
@@troylee4196the convo isn’t about winning it’s about how much he would average
They want him to agree with them so bad.. Totally different when McCants is on
Nah they shit on him too even when he's right.
Watch how slow an NBA game is from Iverson's era. No way in hell is he playing 40 minutes a game today when he has to chase shooters and run around screens all game.
Exactly. Him playing faster and then playing defense on someone playing fast too is PLENTY of Fatigue.
Plus, what happens when you force AI to guard mismatches when he plays D?
@@blinblinthingteam defense way better now. Way better schemes. Way more versatile defenders too
AI wasn't a defender like that he's not chasing shit. He played the passing lanes. His teammates chased. AI was a scorer.
if Harden and Luka can stay in games for around 37-38 mins what makes u think AI isnt staying in for 40+???????
@@kig4794AI isnt the playmaker those guys are so their lack of defense isnt going to be that big of an issue as iverson whos also a bigger liability on defense cause of his size.
Guys, this podcast is addictive.. what I love most is the individual passion, and at the end, it's nothing personal...bless
Iverson has 4 scoring titles. The only active player with that many is Kevin Durant.
But he shouldnt have because he was a horrible shooter. Kd scoring titles are on like 49% shooting with the three ball. Iverson was just allowed to sell tickets. And as someone from philly i feel the same about embiid. Player who have glaringly large holes in their games(embiid is he cant play many.) yet still are hyped up because people cant think past empty stats.
@@iamrysheem 49 percent is nice, i would respect it more if it didnt require 3s to get that high though, and a higher volume, its easy to score a higher percentage when you can swap out shooting for dunking if you want, iverson didnt have that luxury all of his attempts were some kind of shot, and against way tougher defense.
@@gangstagummybear3432cap its harder tryna score ona 6’6+ dude w 7ft+ wingspan thts agile
@@gangstagummybear3432 the crazy thing is people actually liked your reply. 3 point shooting actually drags down the shooting percentage. Its a harder shot to make. He’s 6’11”. If he scored less than 50 percent at the basket thats a problem. What you said in response to me makes no sense.
@@iamrysheem It isnt a harder shot to make, not in the current era, thanks to the spacing, with its volume being so much lower than 2's it is going to be a higher impact on the total field goal percentage even if you only make 40% of them, the mid range areas are harder guarded so that makes the mid range alot harder to shoot, the proof is in the pudding, with the influx of swapping out high volume 2s for lower volume of total shots, but more 3s all the field goal percentages have gotten higher, what I said in response makes total sense if you have a brain.
They are just talking about the mentality AI had. He, Kobe and MJ were trying to score the ball, no games just get a bucket. And guys like that were relentless even while being knocked down many times by real rim protectors that loved to hit people. There wasn't as much space back then and so someone was always near in the paint.
They talking like they playing 2k with no fatigue 😂😂😂
That's how AI played
Well because ai played football it allowed him to have that high endurance and energy that no bball player really play with
AI stamina was something else. But he also didn't waste energy playing defense. His teammates were solid on ball defenders. AI had those long arms and would lurk playing the passing lanes. AI would cross you once maybe twice and go.
I used to like this show but the glaze for the 2000s is crazy 😭
so
It’s getting so out of hand
Tell me who plays Defense in this Era? 😂😂😂NOBODY
EXACTLY
Players from the 2000s glazing their era as the best no way 🤯 they all do that even wilt saying I would average 50 in the 90s MJ is average.
If he not passing the ball what is the threat of 4 shooters??🤣🤣🤣
Still need spacing
@sakpase88 what's the point of spacing if you not passing... sooner or later they gonna see.. hey he not passing out of double teams.... send the triple
@@BizzyBlount08that’s when passing comes into to play. When someones man is wide open hitting 3s they gonna have to stay on them.
@PirateD.KingLuffy they literally said oh he not gonna pass the ball 🤣🤣🤣
Defense
This is true .. 42 year old hooper here. "if I Get it, I am going!" I will catch the ball from a curl or a pin down and take 2-3 dribbles to a particular spot (elbow or nail for me) quick pull up or attack down hill to a pro hop step, contact lay or and-1 or foul. Young cats say, "take ur time. just pull it out and dribble" WHY? Why PULL it back for a dribble combo when I am coming off a curl or pin down 10-12 feet from the basket to move further back to go full 2K mode. Or, I look up all 4 dudes are on the wings just looking, no slot cuts from weak side, nobody is moving just waiting for me to dribble > drive and kick out for a 3 OR for them spam into a dribble package making the possession way harder to score...
I've adapted but there are moments when I have say keep the game simple. Playing defense now, Oh my lamb! That's another topic lol.
Peace and blessings to all hoopers out there. Stop this 80s v 90s 90s v now. I think we're the only sports and culture that does this, lol.
he averaged 30 with 25 shots🤣 and thats against those slow big guys who cant guard the perimeter and run around with him,so to get that much he needs atleast 30 shots and what damn player getting that a game? makes 0 sense,the guy was just a worst shooting kyrie in that era
literally would average 22 today, probably looking like a taller IT
@@bruggyteeexactly,or he would just be chucking up shots on a losing team which wouldnt last long,because in the NBA today you need 2 all start level talents and no one gonna want to play with a man just taking all those shots
Everyone in previous eras with actual defense put up that many shots to get 30, unless they were dunking for all their attempts, big deal
@@jamaloliver6940 yeah he’s a good shooter between 10-17 feet, can’t defend consistently and takes horrible shots. at best he’s Cam Thomas
they centers was as tall as our pgs😭😭 ai nice but alot of his shots gettn touched
Until guys like Ja and Kyrie score more, don’t tell me AI at his size with no jump shot is avg more than 35 ppg
He average 27 for a career and averaged 33 for season without a jumper in the hardest defensive era. 5 seasons average 30 plus
@@SunniChamplook at the efficiency
@@SunniChamphardest defensive era? The one were they couldn’t shoot threes like todays game so shots would be wide open?
@@DevinEllis-qf3om what that have to do with average 30 plus and winning games nothing
@@SunniChampAI only crossover to his right and the so called hardest defensive era don't know that. Up until Patrick Beverly said that to AI. Watch it in Shaq's podcast.
I don’t ever wanna hit the weed that got Brandon this high🤣🤣🤣
Iverson arms are long. I noticed that too. His arm span has to be crazy
His wingspan is only 6'3
If a coach is willing to put up with you scorn 40 points a game on 40% shooting that is crazy
If he shot 45% at 6ft tall in todays game thats not bad tho
Only you nerds give a fuck about shooting percentage. Go win
@@adgee5401the point of the game is to make shots not miss them 😂😂😂
@@adgee5401caring about someone scoring efficiently is "nerdy" huh lmao. I'd rather be a nerd than mentally challenged like you unfortunately
You also have to take into account that when he was driving to the lane there were two bigs trying to stop him. Those missed layups had an effect on his fg %. Today there wouldn’t be anyone there besides guys like Gobert and a couple other bigs.
Half these kids talking don’t even know why half the guards wear No 3 😂😂😂
And Brandon wears number 3 smh
And he still hating
So coaches and defenders would just sit and watch him get 40 every night. Is that what you guys think? Prime James Harden was arguably the most unguardable player in NBA history and he played close to 81 games a season and he couldn't get past 36 points. Old geezers on steroids. These guys are rewriting history. Fox, John wall, DRose, WestbrooK super fast, more athletic, bigger than Iverson don't even come close to 35 ppg. Giannis comes at you every possession and he is less than 30. Iverson would be so tired chasing players on defense and getting posted up by bigger guards that he would be throwing up air balls. Coaches would put AI on pick and rolls and post him up to death. AI would be so tired mid season he would load manage.
Luka is basically doing the same thing with better efficiency.
"James harden was arguably the most unguardable player in NBA history" lol
fox, John wall, and drose are bad comps. okc Westbrook without Durant (or without pg) is an ok comp because of relentlessness. giannis is also an ok comp for same reason. not sure about AI getting worn down. he was the most in shape player for many years in a row.
All this to say, I don't think he'd average 45. Maybe 40 cause his relentlessness and cause his team strategy required that he take 25+ shots a game
Lay off that crack
Harden couldnt do it b/c he wasted the clock every possession... if Harden didnt play like that i gureentee he would be able to do it as well
James Harden dribbles till the shot clock goes close to 0. While Iverson would have got 2 extra possessions. 6-8 points extra for Iverson on the other hand Harden gets 3-5 points.
Salute to Brandon for using his brain and not getting caught up in the hype. Averaging 43 points means putting 40 on the board basically every night. There’s a reason guys don’t do it now.
It takes too much energy. And it goes against the natural flow of the game. Iverson would be going 1 on 2 or 1 on 3 all game long. That makes no sense.
Finally Iverson was not a great shooter. His scoring output came with a lot of missed shots. He’d probably need 40 shots a night to average 43. It’s just not happening;
You have no idea what you’re talking about, sorry. The reason guys aren’t doing it now is because there’s more talented scorers on the team they play on. AI was an energizer bunny and would put it all on the floor every night so that’s not an issue. And he was being bodied by big, hands on, and aggressive type of defensive play styles so of course his percentage would be lower. You take today’s game with his play and he’s easily dominating.
I come from that era and I hate these conversations, the average players today are far better than the average of yesterday. He would not score 40 a night, the superstars of yesterday were light-years away from the average players. That's not happening today
@@stayyourpath So AI in today's game will just magically be a more efficent shooter?
No one is gonna notice he can't shoot 3s, is always going to the basket and the team will forget to clog the paint?
No one is gonna notice his teammates aren't big offensive threats and start to trap him or double him?
He gonna play 48 minutes and not get tired? or is he gonna play his career average minutes at a faster rate and not get tired?
He's a 6 foot guy, you mean to tell me no team is looking at him as a defensive liabilty and putting him in mismatches and going to force his coach to sub him?
@@stayyourpathexactly, he would be on a team with more efficient scorers therefore forcing him to take far less shots .
Lmao cope more @@stayyourpath
I swear these old heads think anyone back in the day scoring 10 more ppg just because the game is different like the guys now aren’t more skilled more athletic and longer overall
It blows my mind man.
the game is different.... and they not saying "anyone". only very specific type players who had a big scoring motor and a green light.
They forgetting part of the reason harden was successful with all of those dribbles is it naturally lulls you to sleep before he kills you with a deadly quick step back or a easy blow by
@@darrianaldridge1057 that's a good style for individual stats, but not for the team overall
@@aadamesTell Luka that..
Lmao the way Gil said ‘that means James Harden is wastin dribbles dribblin the ball’ 💀
😅
They act like today’s best players can’t touch AI offensively. Y’all complain when Luka or Harden have the ball a lot tf you think AI is gonna do? and without a jump shot? Lol
He had a jum shot... He was not wasting opportunities on hoisting up a bunch of threes... He was in constant attack mode...
@@mistadavis4336he shot from the field what players shoot from the 3 these days
@@zayzaydamack You apparently don't need an arsenal to dominate.
@@mistadavis4336Yes he was lol plus his FG% and TS% was lower than the previous players mentioned. So he’d have to shoot the ball more than them to even get the numbers they got. And now you’re telling me he would score 10 plus more points per game, on worse efficiency? So you want dude to shoot the ball 35 times a game basically 🤣🤣🤣
@@DreamFactories it would be better efficiency since the area he shoots from isnt as crowded
Praising ball hogging and shot chucking is so funny to me , if any coach allowed iverson to throw up 40 shots a night in todays game they should be fired immediately
I think Kobe did the same thing
Nobody gone acknowledge Gil’s Kmart head shake during an argument impersonation😂
Most of the viewers of Gil's Arena have never watched Iverson beyond highlights or any players from before 2015... So if you were not able to witness something its hard for you to fathom the idea that something was better than what you are receiving currently... I get it...
Facts
They have no idea what AI was trying to do. He was always in attack mood
@@eclipsewoareason why he was so inefficient
I watch ai play his a ball hog shooting 25 fga with only 41 percent fg percentage
Can't nobody else on that team score
Soft ass ERA. AI WOULD TORTURE THESE GUYS. Spacing and lack of defense. AI Can average 40.
“Would they win though” 😂 thats when BJ messed up.
Kd and luka are way better scorers than AI ever dreamed of and they not even close to that you're blinded by nostalgia 💀
@@901_koro_sensei3 its not about scoring here. Ai was a killer. To me there’s a huge difference. You had to be there to understand.
@@aramos888 it's literally players today who scored the basketball better than AI ever did and they not averaging 40 stop with this killer instinct shit dawg
@@901_koro_sensei3 i agree and look what they are doing. When AI did it the teams were averaging like 97 ppg. Yall dont understand what im saying. He’ll smell these weak ass defenses and come out w the mindset to try and get 50 every night and be mad if he couldn’t because he knows how weak it is. Ts.
Whenever K Mart is in the building....BJ never call Gill era trash
You're telling me right now A.I would be averaging more points than 7'0 300 pound joel embiid who shoots 88% from the ft line and 37% from 3?? You're out of your mind bro people need to stop this 😂😂😭, i wish one day someone would come on here and be honest and be like like "you know actually he'd probably average the same amount of points as he did back then cause he couldnt shoot threes so guys would just sag off of him which would ruin the rest of the offensive action like the pick and roll so yeah he played in the perfect era" 😂
But you have to do era adjustment...embiid in those 90-2000s era ain't shooting those 3s like that either he would have had to take his big ass down on the block and also be defender ... so you have to era adjust A.I for today's game ... I'm not saying 40pts but dammit it would be close
Easily
Embiid doesn’t play the whole game like Allen Iverson did
Boy stop it joel embid is not no A.I
@@joshuafrazier3532 if A.I was in this era he wouldn’t play the whole game either
Loved this conversation...very educational!
Brandon was right in the beginning, if no one in this era is doing it, why would A I average 43.
Exactly. Even if Steph or KD or any other great scorer played on a bad team, they still wouldn't average 43. So this argument makes no sense. They'd average 30 to 36 at most.
Simple
Because their mentality is different. He’s going out to play and score 50 on your head my guy, literally on some Mamba mentality.
@@Jeff_Guapoomfg this is some next level dickriding, AI is not averaging 43 stop it
So because his mentality is different he’s gonna score more than the most efficient scorers 💀 give me a break. He’s gonna chuck up more shots and miss even more than he averaging before
James harden was a maniac in houston
There's a 300 dribble difference
Exactly... James harden possibly was the greatest score ever during those Houston years and the most he average was 36
Exactly... James harden possibly what's the greatest score ever during those Houston years and the most he average was 36
2019 Harden Was Crazy
And he didn’t average 40..
His assists would be high. Brandon did you ever watch AI play 😂.
AI averaging 50 in this era just because he see his competition period 😂😂😂
No his not he had no left and he was short and skinny
That dribble stat won the argument for Iverson because he would have way more possessions which means more shooting attempts which means it’s likely he can score 40+ ppg.
Harden averaged 11 assists per game that year so yeah he’s gonna dribble more
More shot attempts? He already shot 25 shots a game. One year he even shot 28 shots a game. I highly doubt he’s gonna take 30+ shots a game in today’s league.
bro don't like James dribbled more because he took 50 years of the shot clock to do a stepback or make a shot lets not act like he was playing like a true pg he's a sg that playes the pg
5 layups a quarter, and 3 free throws is doable, especially when each team averages 100 possessions per game!
AI is not averaging 43 fucking points STOP IT!
Iverson definitely avg 40 in today’s game if he really wanted to
If he took 32-35 shots a game. Sure.
40+ at 6ft with other players also attempting more shots is kinda outrageous.
I think it's like 3-5 players in NBA history that could've put up 40+ppg if they wanted to, in this era. With so much small ball play and very little focus on interior Defense/ Defenders.
Prime-MJ, Wilt, Shaq, Kareem, and Kobe. and a few more that might come close. Like AI...
Real ass take
This is an insane take. If Embiid isn't averaging 40+ then Wilt, Shaq and Kareem not doing it either. I think people are confusing scoring 40 with averaging 40. It's crazy difficult to average 40 points over 82 games.
Somebody who knows ball.
@@tari8134 Embiid isn't as good as Shaq, Kareem, and Wilt and even he was close to 40 this year
MJ didn’t do it when they had “illegal defensive rules” what makes y’all believe he would do it today? Todays defense is more advanced. Jordan never seen a zone defense
Iverson would go crazy today
The saddest part about this is that they’re talking about the biggest problem with the NBA today without actually saying it competitiveness in the lack of defense and physicality, has water down this game
People who dont understand that AI would easily got for damn near 40 in a season dont understand real hoop and real defense
you obviously don't understand basketball lmao easily averaging 40? lmao i doubt u ever touched a rock in yo life
@@reeztheplug a mf that claim they the "plug" online deserves therapy and to be suspended from the internet you idiot
@@reeztheplug lmao dude think AI a better scorer than luka kd or Steph the nostalgia is crazy 😂😂
@@901_koro_sensei3bruv AI literally had that mamba mentality, it’s like we’re comparing two different eras and rules. AI today would be a baller, he’s going to stay at the free throw line due to defensive fouls, plus the whole team would basically make a plan to him that’s their focus.
@@901_koro_sensei3 They arent no better scorers than AI, you bums current day mistake the fact these guys are putting up 3s so much for being better scorers, til they swap out their shot chart for Iverson's and prove they can do better than Iverson with his own shot chart, they are just special at scoring with the new trash age defense that allows luka to put up 70 plus points
Rashad : STAT STAT MAN YEAH THAT’S ME!!!
Also Rashad: GIVE ME SOME METRICS B!!!
This is the comment I was looking for lol 😂
To think Iverson wasn't making 4 more shots a game today is delusion
Is starting to become annoying how godly they making AI look. Yeah he was something special but he wasn't a good shooter he not taking 100 layups not in this era.
Because he was godly you never seen it that’s why brother
@GodSon91 brother I'm 35 lmaoo that was my favorite player and Steve Nash. I'm speaking from actually seeing AI he was great af not godly he was tough and durable not out of this world. These days he's mid at best his heart will be gold but his skill mid. That's no lie stop Cap'n
When you see AI highlights all you see is layups and crossovers nothing else a few shots here and there nothing where is crazy cause he sucked at shooting.
Wait whatttttttt bruh are u serious basketball is basketball bruh you supposed to shoot & score don’t matter how u do it my guy he accomplished a lot doing it as well…..😂😂😂😂
@@GodSon91dude stfu, AI is not averaging 40 stop it
No way. This sounds silly. AI would average way less if he wants to win.
Trae Young is the best small guy averaging 29 and 11
Exactly they are out of their minds
Cut the shit!! He's not averaging 43 points!!!! Steph Curry alone is far better than Iverson!! And Steph only averaged 30 points twice! Stop it
AI is one of the reasons I picked up a basketball.
He is not AVERAGING 43 points in today's game.
He averaging 45 😂😂😂
@TGTBTUPoddy definitely not. If LEBRON, KD, STEPH, KYRIE etc. some of the best shooter and scorers basketball has ever seen not doin it, AI definitely aint.
@@TGTBTUPoddyIverson is exactly why I picked up a ball, wore a headband, and got cornrows and I say he’s definitely not averaging 43. Saw his whole career
@@TheStones92 he’s the reason I still cry myself to sleep watching the sixes lose 🤣🤣🤣🤣
aint no way he getting 45, without being a great 3pt shooter, thats like 30+ shots, with 5+ FTs on efficient shooting
teammates couldn’t get into a rhythm, and thats just easy target on defense for great playmakers nowadays
Theres no such thing as efficient if you are shooting under 100% anyways dumbass
like brandon said kd is a better scorer then ai too he doesn’t even take that many dribbles and didn’t average 40 brandon was cooking
Gil's Social Media Manger: Put the words "Allen Iverson" in the title for more views, not everyone types in the letters "AI" 👍
Not gaming the algorithm at all
@@jellyfishbrained that’s not gaming the algorithm because its not clickbait his name is Allen Iverson they don’t put videos up to get less views you troll
Bro I think Brandon and half of you don’t know simple math less dribbles = more time = more shots = more points
It’s simple hot damn math only a fool would argue 2+2 not equaling 4
is it6 guranteed makes tho? he would need 35 shots to avh 40
@@ohiomadejay well everyone is taking it literally, that math works with anyone, if they take less dribbles and play off the ball and shoot. Look at klay or curry that’s their bread and butter
@@ohiomadejay also it’s not guaranteed but even curry has off nights
Are we done with the 2000s yet? I'm tired of these people constantly throwing out names saying they'd average 40 in today's game when the player struggle it shoot the 3 ball in their era...
id be surprised he would average 18. i wonder if he would even get drafted. AI a legend but im not trying to get a slashing mid range pg that scores first thats like 6feet tall
Missed the point
And he was number 1 in the draft so how the hell would he have never been drafted, your crazy
2000s players are staring to sound like Old heads😭 I’m giving him 30-34 max but he’s NOT averaging 40+ with a broken jumper
How could Brandon Jennings be So slow to process simple information. Goodness gracious
AI was relentless, with the floor spread and no bigs in his way, he's easily averaging 38 points a game. He's way faster than anyone they could put in front of him. His layup package was impeccable and he lived off his midrange.. He shot threes occasionally.. I think he would shoot no more than 6 threes a game... He was way rougher than anyone playing in todays game... 38 sounds good to me... Only because they would cut his minutes slightly even though he never got tired...
he’s an average athlete in today’s league, too short for defensive efficiency. 23 & 7 with 37-44 win teams.
Are you serious... There isn't one person in the NBA faster than AI today.... Luka, Jokic are not athletes.... A 40 year old LeBron is killing this trash product
@mistadavis4336 De'aaron Fox and Ja are both on par with AI
AI is not averaging 40, not even MJ.
People saying mj would average 45 kill me. The defense couldn’t even shadow or zone. It was only man to man and if you didn’t hard double it’s a tech on the defense. You can’t soft double in the 80s or 90s
@@HoopsRaccoon True. MJ cant even go left. mj averaging 30-35 max. he just jaylen brown but bald.
MJ averaged 37 during a season in the 80s. He’d definitely average 40+ now
@@kyleflores9385 im a C's fan but ur high
@@kyleflores9385the problem with people who say things like this is he was already averaging 35-37 while getting the shit beat out him. They hard fouled him every time. He just put on muscle. Mj is a 10x scoring champ. Even with the 3 ball and game that are like 30-40 points higher than when he played. None of these new player have come close to his average.
Im sorry MJ was a uber competitive psychopath. He’d fuck around and start shooting 3’s.
You cant even say players today are more athletic because he still has the highest recorded vertical in the nba. He also was a great two way player. He went hard on defense and still would drop 40.
These new guys do not have that kind of energy.
Im sorry. The mj hate is wild.
Kobe didn’t average 40 and u think A.I WILL IS CRAZY
BJ just wasnt understanding what they was trying to tell him lol
Shot clock resetting to :14 alone would’ve got these guys an extra 2 or 3 ppg
Dude what? They used to get a fresh 24 back then 😂😂
@@Ballinbmac Are u slow? Faster shot clock means more shots=more makes. Shows how long you’ve watched ball
@@AlwaysInnaHoodie his efficiency would go down then, unless he has unlimited stamina and players like JJJ and Giannis aren’t in the league
Allen Iverson was putting up averages of 26 to 33 PPG on teams that couldn't crack 95 letting on 100 PPG in most seasons and y'all saying that feat is out of this realm where every team is putting up an average of 108 points or better this year😂😂😂
I love AI but y'all gotta stop capping. Because AI was undersized and had questionable shot selection he was inefficient as a scorer. There are some years where he's shooting 38-39% from the field. Not from 3, from the field. Seasons where he's shooting like 28% from 3. He was a 6'0 shooting guard playing 40 mins a night, taking 26 shots to average 30. Your shot attempts should never match your points. AI isn't averaging 40 bro. Stop it
This New NBA AI will go Brazy out here 🤧
Facts 😂
Stop the cap 🧢
Facts no cap at all. He’s too fast for these locks today. And he pull up with blinders at 6 ft. and get steals. He would go crazy today
@@elijahdratte1118 well tell him to prove then
@@elijahdratte1118fast but short they touchn his shots
Ai average 30 on a zone with no shooters…. Now put him into todays era we’re he’s playing with 4 other shooters, so he’s not getting doubled.
AI is not 10x faster than Ja. he was quick but mfs talking about him like he’s usain bolt
We’re talking about a career 31 percent 3pt shooter they would guard him so different then they did back then
Facts plus there guards are a lot bigger and stronger.
IT literally averaged 30 on this era height don’t matter
Ask Kobe
@@HeartOTChe played tmac Kobe and Vince 1v1
@@stanleed.harold5457 even Kobe guarded him with too much respect he’d get the Russell Westbrook treatment but atleast Westbrook 6’4 with crazy athleticism ai 6 even he might average 25 on his best year
FOR SOMEONE TO AVERAGE 43 POINTS THEY WOULD HAVE TO SHOOT THE BALL 32 TIMES A GAME AND 13 FREE THROWS A GAME. THATS INSANE
I watched this live the other day...but like I think
It depends on his teammates.....if he was in Jordan poole situation where he has 100% control to create...
And he put up 24-27 shots per game....he could definitely get close to 40 if not eclipse 40 ...with the pace and space of today's game
I think ppl forget Iverson was doin what he was doing when scores was like 93-86 and it was considered a good game
Now games are 126-117
What team besides the Detroits, Charlottes, Washingtons, etc would he be able to get up that many shots???
@@thetarheel2010j those might be the only teams....like I said it depends on his teammates
The crazy thing is, he understood everything they were saying, but this is what it looks like when someone doesn't want to be wrong and it's sad coming from a man smh
I was a 5’11 SF in high school and college guarding 6’3+ players. Somehow I averaged 3 blocks, 7 rebounds, 23pts, & 8 assists. Size of the heart in basketball
Simply put the reason AI would score 45 in today’s game is cause when he played the defense always focused on him and had more than 1 body on him majority of the time like you practically got the whole opposite team guarding one guy and he still had a great average. You take away the defensive focus and maybe add someone that is scorer as well in today’s game with how defensive fouls are called he would definitely be balling.
He averages 26.7 for his career he is not adding 16-17 points you guys are lost
@@strahinjasalajic627exactly. They sound like the 90’s players sound now. Sheesh, everybody who was great then wouldn’t be GREATER today.
You changing the question.
If he comes back with the same team, the defense will still focus on him and he won't score no 40PPG.
Put a equal caliber player along side him will be less shots for him, so no 40 PPG.
@@strahinjasalajic627 At this rate, we're about 2 year before we start hearing Random NBA Bust would average 20 PPG in today's game.
Why is this even a real conversation so you telling me ai would be the best scorer in nba history if he played today
Brandon Jennings, you have a nice game. You overate yourself, YOU COULDN'T HOLD A.I.
Gil is right though even McCants. This isn't about AI being better this is about his mentality and the fact he loved to shot the ball. His first 7 seasons included hand checking. No one is staying in front of him now. He also goes from 4 3pts a game to 8 to 10. On that alone he scores 6 more points. Prime AI was 33 a game, add just the 2 additional 3s he's 39. He doesn't have rim protectors meeting him at the basket so that's probably 2 to 3 more makes on his 2 point shots. So another 4 to 6 points. So he's getting 43 to 45 points a game. His style requires getting more fouls so he's getting more free throws. Today's league would benefit AI tremendously.
So basically he would have to take 31 or 32 shots a game to get his 40. Yea nobody is taking that many shots a game on average add on the the fact that if he’s playing in todays game he’s not averaging 43 mpg there’s no way any coach is allowing that. So basically there’s no way he’s averaging 40 in today’s league if he has to average 31 shot attempts in about 38 minutes of play time.
They was straight yappin.
Just jaw japping and gibber jabbering
I say jibber jabber all the time. Shout out to OG Mr. T and all the cats that still use it.
McCants telling BJ to prove a hypothetical situation😂
like what, they cant prove he would avg 40 either bc he never did