And to think... She gave up playing the bass for YEARS! There was a short video on Kristen's blog a while back of Leslie picking up the bass and playing again after many years away from that. How do you do that? That is, be part of such a great Alternative band. Then at the a high point in the band's popularity, just up and walk away from it and not touch your instrument for years after. The Southern New England, small music venue scene needs a Muses reunion with the members shown in this video. Before we're all too old to manage it.
Lucky you... Friends and I would occasionally venture up to Boston and out the Newport. Really wish I was able to catch one of their shows. Such great groups, man I miss those days!
REM were so inconsistent live. I saw them twice, and although the first time was fantastic, the second was bum numbingly boring, and almost uncomfortable to see a band so unhappy to be playing before an audience.
@@davidharte That's awful. I saw the same thing happen with Jane's Addiction. One show was brilliant and the next began with Perry Ferrell announcing: "I just drank a whole bottle of wine!" It was a disaster.
One of my fave bands of all time. I, too, had no idea there was a video! There's such a vivid love story in this song, and the way Kristin Hersch spools out her vocals is like a joyous ride unto itself.
Masterfully cool song Hunkpapa a very fantastic album too, full of gems like this Great to see this with Leslie on bass - and Tanya and Kristin looking very adorably young
FWIW, it's their deliberately and aggressively "stupid song" they stuck on the record for the label. Like most pop songs, ultimately, the dumber the better. And, yeah, I too liked this tune well enough back in the day.
I still remember going to a small venue in Boston (near BU) and seeing Throwing Muses - amazing concert - Kirsten was so intense. Bought all their CDs the next day.
Along the Palo Duro canyon Red River shows so many eyes One eye squinting shading from the sun, shoot me Black as oil, his hair shone Lily white his skin glistened Restless as the reed between his lips blew It's just that mean old Texas sun It makes me dizzy, dizzy, dizzy in my head What day is this? I quietly asked the sky What time is it? he asked me sitting up Love that villain on the run He's got me spinning 'round and falling on my head What are you running from? I asked the white boy From the guys who chased me there come run I need your dark skin to sit beside me in my car Light up my cigar, I'll light you It's just that mean old Texas sun It makes me dizzy, dizzy, dizzy in my head Love that villain on the run He's got me spinning 'round and falling on my head And dizzy, dizzy, dizzy In my head He said, you're only Indian in Oklahoma You could be melting in America White on red, melt with my skin These two hearts will beat along the walls of our hotel I need your dark skin to sit beside me in my car Light up my cigar, I'll light you It's just that mean old Texas sun It makes me dizzy, dizzy, dizzy in my head The last I saw of Oklahoma A gas station fading in the dusk Goodbye to my father, I thought, I'm carrying the light The light of my Comanche Make sure the dog remembers me I dream the sand beneath your feet I hold the light It's just that mean old Texas sun It makes me dizzy, dizzy, dizzy in my head Love that villain on the run He's got me spinning 'round and falling on my head And dizzy, dizzy, dizzy, dizzy, dizzy, dizzy, dizzy In my head
Another of the several Muses and Belly songs/videos on the list of "I want to be young again..." after hearing/seeing them. Getting old sucks sometimes. That nostalgia for your youth can be a real gut punch sometimes!
Saw them open up for New Order in 1989. Watched them on 120 mins so I knew a little bit. Totally loved them and bought the tape the next day. Now I'm right back to that year.
Huge FAN!,,, Going to see Kristen Hersh and Tanya DonellyMarch 10 at City Winery Boston. Oh and Belly at Boston Calling. I am ready to get blown away by my favorite ladies!
I don´t have a problem with giving each 4ad track best note, but I´m very individualistic with my personal selections. This Throwing Muses-song I chose for its simplicity, I´m a big fan of something when I can´t describe why I´m a fan of it. I guess, DIZZY hits a structure in my brain to say so.
I can't disagree with you - 4AD released much Indie which was less melodic I.E. Pixies, UVS. I was very much into the Dinosaur Jr. Sonic Youth, Mudhoney. Butthole Surfers vibe. With a touch of Pussygalore. I was only 15 but in Britain we had this DJ called John Peel on BBC radio 1, who played a great range of 'alternative music'. As kids were were very lucky. But Hunkpapa and later the Breeders brought a greater melody, less aggression to the prevailent sound - when I heard Dizzy I was bowled over. Whist I loved Hunkpapa (apparently they were a part of Navaho who Sitting Bull controlled - heard that on a PBS documentary yesterday...) it's a shame. like Pod, that it's one of those forgotten nuggets of gold.
Thanks for the interesting correspondence. I´m a bit of a hopeless fan, because British Alternative touches my heart as if I was born in London (I was born in Cologne), whilst music from Germany nearly completely leaves me cold and seems to be strange. My favourite song of all songs ever is BEACH HOUSE´S "Majorette" for its majestetic aura. I´m a crazy fan of AGNES OBEL (from Denmark), too (listen to "Mary" from "Citizen Of Glass"). I´m happy there is so much to adore for me in music.
This was one of those college rock bands from the late 80s/90s, but this album HUNKPAPA (named for the Indian tribe Geronimo came from) was radio- and listener-friendly.
Their "dumb" single according to Kristin and one of the very few times, if not the only time, they "played the game". As a massive fan from centuries ago, I totally get what she is saying and why she hates it, but I don't care, lol. I still love the song and the hugely underrated in their catalogue Hunkpapa album. Kristin proved she could write a straightforward pop song, if only to satisfy the record company, and still do it with class to spare.
Interesting story... They're a great band, liked them back in the day, but didn't do much of a deep dive into their stuff prior to Real Ramona. Wish I had. Also wish I'd been on the ball enough to try to go to one of their shows in Newport or Boston back then. Kristin and Tanya are crazy talented... It's a shame that Tanya went off in her own direction, though Belly was pretty damn spectacular, it would have been very interesting to see how the Muses would have evolved had they stayed together. I get it though, Tanya probably wanted to make her own way, she clearly had what it took to do so.
Everyone is saying Kristin hated this song, I don't remember ever reading an interview with her saying that. Maybe she disliked how Sire was trying to market the band at the time.
+Dunk1970 Thanks for the link. I never knew that. I enjoyed most of their songs and didn't really think of them being slick or overproduced. They didn't sound like anything on the mainstream radio. It's interesting that Kristin feels uncomfortable hearing her "psycho" voice as she phrases it. It was that weirdness and off kilter quality that really made them so compelling to me as a teenager. But of course I've enjoyed her music in all the years since then as well.
+Creat Swartz I know what you mean. I discovered that she wasn't a fan of the song after I named my cat after it. LOL I revisited the song two days ago because Dizzy the 17 year old cat died on Sunday and I wanted to hear it again. I have since given Dylan and Echo the dogs specific instructions not to die.
Creat Swartz Thanks. She was fit and well a week earlier, so her demise came out of the blue a bit. My wife and I got her and our first dog the day we moved into our first house. The dog ("Indie", as in the music genre) past on Christmas Day 6 years ago and we have since moved house. So that whole piece of history is now in the past. Thankfully Kristin has carried on writing music, so we have more names we can use for future pets. LOL
Dunk1970 thanks for the link. It’s horrible how the music industry treated Kristin. I have loved them since their first album and I think Kristin is an underrated unrecognized genius. Hope she keeps making music!
Probably, although listening to today's country, this song sounds a whole lot better than the garbage they currently put on country radio stations. Radio and the music industry have forgotten what good music sounds like. At least we can listen to it here.
Exactly! The crappiness of today's pop music goes without saying. "Work" by Rihanna makes me wish I was deaf. Today's music is devolving into computerized instrumentation, vocal loops with meaningless words, and no thought or effort whatsoever going into crafting songs. (I almost used the phrase "creative process" in the preceding sentence, but today's music is generally devoid of creativity.)
This is such a good catchy pleasant song. I realize Kristin doesn’t really like this song as it is really not her genre. This song is almost a country pop crossover song. Kristin’s voice sounds great when she goes into that higher pitched upper register. Kristin could have been a country pop superstar but i respect her for instead creating something else and unique. I myself am not a country fan but have a very eclectic taste in music and i do enjoy some country-esque songs done well.
i'd say Kristin was being manipulated for 30 seconds by Sire (f**** them). This was the result. I did not like it in 1989 but i liked it tonight. maybe its the weed. The new TM record is lovely. check it.
Really she was manipulating Sire... she took this, her dad's song, and "kinda fucked it up on purpose," (her quote) and gave it to them to get them off her back, making the rest of the record sound the way she wanted it to (Mania! Bea!)
"I took one of my dad's songs and I kinda ruined it on purpose. We gave it to the record label as a joke, like 'You're so dumb, this is what you like.' And they DID like it! We were really in trouble then."
She said in a recent interview that her father wrote Dizzy and Not Too Soon and that they turned them into "terrible things" and "monstrous events." Not quite sure of the meaning, but there ya have it. wearecult.rocks/interview-kristin-hersh-2
One of the rare Leslie Langston sightings. THE most under-rated bass player.
And to think... She gave up playing the bass for YEARS! There was a short video on Kristen's blog a while back of Leslie picking up the bass and playing again after many years away from that.
How do you do that? That is, be part of such a great Alternative band. Then at the a high point in the band's popularity, just up and walk away from it and not touch your instrument for years after.
The Southern New England, small music venue scene needs a Muses reunion with the members shown in this video. Before we're all too old to manage it.
I grew up in and around Boston. Throwing Muses, Belly and the Breeders were great bands to see
Lucky you... Friends and I would occasionally venture up to Boston and out the Newport. Really wish I was able to catch one of their shows. Such great groups, man I miss those days!
Throwing Muses blew me away in concert and they ultimately outshined the headliner: REM. Blew my mind.
REM were so inconsistent live. I saw them twice, and although the first time was fantastic, the second was bum numbingly boring, and almost uncomfortable to see a band so unhappy to be playing before an audience.
@@davidharte That's awful. I saw the same thing happen with Jane's Addiction. One show was brilliant and the next began with Perry Ferrell announcing: "I just drank a whole bottle of wine!" It was a disaster.
I heard that Deep Purple was an opener and was better than the Band they opened for,
@@crashpalace4834 I heard that was the place where a Clown peed all over the stage.
@@KellyClement Damn! I'll have to ask my friend who had gone with me. I don't recall that at all - and I wasn't drinking!
Hunkpapa was such a crucial album back in the day.
Still is, as far as I'm concerned.
One of my fave bands of all time. I, too, had no idea there was a video! There's such a vivid love story in this song, and the way Kristin Hersch spools out her vocals is like a joyous ride unto itself.
Weird hearing this 30 years later...how the world has changed.
Kenneth Pace wish I could go back
Saw them on their 1989 tour of the UK - absolutely fantastic live band and great people, too.
Masterfully cool song
Hunkpapa a very fantastic album too, full of gems like this
Great to see this with Leslie on bass - and Tanya and Kristin looking very adorably young
FWIW, it's their deliberately and aggressively "stupid song" they stuck on the record for the label. Like most pop songs, ultimately, the dumber the better. And, yeah, I too liked this tune well enough back in the day.
Wonder what the story behind Leslie leaving the band is. Fred was a great addition, but Leslie doesn't seem to lack ability either.
I still remember going to a small venue in Boston (near BU) and seeing Throwing Muses - amazing concert - Kirsten was so intense. Bought all their CDs the next day.
Great song, great band. And THAT is how you play great ensemble bass guitar, by the way.
I love their music. So complex! They were amazing
Love this song. Reminds me of being 18 again ;) A timeless tune!!
Finally getting around to listening to Throwing Muses and all I can think is how mad I am that I didnt make them a higher priority
I found out about them today. Holy fck
Along the Palo Duro canyon
Red River shows so many eyes
One eye squinting shading from the sun, shoot me
Black as oil, his hair shone
Lily white his skin glistened
Restless as the reed between his lips blew
It's just that mean old Texas sun
It makes me dizzy, dizzy, dizzy in my head
What day is this? I quietly asked the sky
What time is it? he asked me sitting up
Love that villain on the run
He's got me spinning 'round and falling on my head
What are you running from? I asked the white boy
From the guys who chased me there come run
I need your dark skin to sit beside me in my car
Light up my cigar, I'll light you
It's just that mean old Texas sun
It makes me dizzy, dizzy, dizzy in my head
Love that villain on the run
He's got me spinning 'round and falling on my head
And dizzy, dizzy, dizzy
In my head
He said, you're only Indian in Oklahoma
You could be melting in America
White on red, melt with my skin
These two hearts will beat along the walls of our hotel
I need your dark skin to sit beside me in my car
Light up my cigar, I'll light you
It's just that mean old Texas sun
It makes me dizzy, dizzy, dizzy in my head
The last I saw of Oklahoma
A gas station fading in the dusk
Goodbye to my father, I thought, I'm carrying the light
The light of my Comanche
Make sure the dog remembers me
I dream the sand beneath your feet
I hold the light
It's just that mean old Texas sun
It makes me dizzy, dizzy, dizzy in my head
Love that villain on the run
He's got me spinning 'round and falling on my head
And dizzy, dizzy, dizzy, dizzy, dizzy, dizzy, dizzy
In my head
Damn you! Had forgotten about this song, found it, and now am in ear worm loveliness! Great to re-find a most awesome band!!!!
Another of the several Muses and Belly songs/videos on the list of "I want to be young again..." after hearing/seeing them. Getting old sucks sometimes. That nostalgia for your youth can be a real gut punch sometimes!
early blocks of throwing muses...ahead of its time
Saw them open up for New Order in 1989. Watched them on 120 mins so I knew a little bit. Totally loved them and bought the tape the next day. Now I'm right back to that year.
I saw that tour also, didn’t start really listening to them until a couple years later, one of my favorites since.🤘
I saw that same combo at the Universal Amphitheater. My first concert - decades ago now.
1:00 LIVE FROM NEW YORK...IT'S SATURDAY NIGHT!
Huge FAN!,,, Going to see Kristen Hersh and Tanya DonellyMarch 10 at City Winery Boston. Oh and Belly at Boston Calling. I am ready to get blown away by my favorite ladies!
Great storytelling & imagery & love that Western beat!
They are an amazing live band.
Love them
Quirky and bright.
maybe the best 4ad--single of its first decade, really charmfully enchanting!
What about UVS Mercy seat. The whole of Surfarosa?
I don´t have a problem with giving each 4ad track best note, but I´m very individualistic with my personal selections. This Throwing Muses-song I chose for its simplicity, I´m a big fan of something when I can´t describe why I´m a fan of it. I guess, DIZZY hits a structure in my brain to say so.
I can't disagree with you - 4AD released much Indie which was less melodic I.E. Pixies, UVS. I was very much into the Dinosaur Jr. Sonic Youth, Mudhoney. Butthole Surfers vibe. With a touch of Pussygalore. I was only 15 but in Britain we had this DJ called John Peel on BBC radio 1, who played a great range of 'alternative music'. As kids were were very lucky. But Hunkpapa and later the Breeders brought a greater melody, less aggression to the prevailent sound - when I heard Dizzy I was bowled over. Whist I loved Hunkpapa (apparently they were a part of Navaho who Sitting Bull controlled - heard that on a PBS documentary yesterday...) it's a shame. like Pod, that it's one of those forgotten nuggets of gold.
Thanks for the interesting correspondence. I´m a bit of a hopeless fan, because British Alternative touches my heart as if I was born in London (I was born in Cologne), whilst music from Germany nearly completely leaves me cold and seems to be strange. My favourite song of all songs ever is BEACH HOUSE´S "Majorette" for its majestetic aura. I´m a crazy fan of AGNES OBEL (from Denmark), too (listen to "Mary" from "Citizen Of Glass"). I´m happy there is so much to adore for me in music.
Absolutely LOVE this band
Dizzy my head is spinnin', like whirpool, it never ends.
Once again, Tanya rules!!!
Not as much as Leslie does in this video. Her two-step kills me.
@@lkgrave4959 This is the first time I've seen Leslie in a video...
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This was one of those college rock bands from the late 80s/90s, but this album HUNKPAPA (named for the Indian tribe Geronimo came from) was radio- and listener-friendly.
How is it 2020 and I'm just discovering there's a video for one of my favorite Throwing Muses songs 20 something years later? FML.
Exactly!
Same!
With tanya donnely on guitars!
Same as , there was no UA-cam back in the day, I didn't even have dial up internet then!
Thank you 4AD.
Love this song.....
Goddam this was great music.
Their "dumb" single according to Kristin and one of the very few times, if not the only time, they "played the game". As a massive fan from centuries ago, I totally get what she is saying and why she hates it, but I don't care, lol. I still love the song and the hugely underrated in their catalogue Hunkpapa album. Kristin proved she could write a straightforward pop song, if only to satisfy the record company, and still do it with class to spare.
Interesting story... They're a great band, liked them back in the day, but didn't do much of a deep dive into their stuff prior to Real Ramona. Wish I had. Also wish I'd been on the ball enough to try to go to one of their shows in Newport or Boston back then.
Kristin and Tanya are crazy talented... It's a shame that Tanya went off in her own direction, though Belly was pretty damn spectacular, it would have been very interesting to see how the Muses would have evolved had they stayed together. I get it though, Tanya probably wanted to make her own way, she clearly had what it took to do so.
It's just that big old Texas sun.
Yep.
great band!
Real alternative rock
extraordinary.
Excellent!!!
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Kristen was the driver of this band, love it! My youth, before Breeders, before Belly...so good!
Awesome
they were better than given credit for.. great songs
The opening riff is very similar to Joe Jackson's "Instant Mash".
that VMW chain tho straight G
Seeing this makes me wonder if Kelley Deal borrowed one of Tanya's outfits for the Breeders' "Safari" music video.
I saw Kelley with The Breeders and she wore a jumper that went down to her knees.She said she knitted it herself and it kept her away from drugs.
Kelley was working for a defense contractor at the time. She headed straight to the video shoot after she got off work.
I’m here because I’m listening to Marc Maron’s interview with Kristin. ❤️
That lead singer was the possessed little girl in "The Exorcist" , I'm glad she turned out okay.
Everyone is saying Kristin hated this song, I don't remember ever reading an interview with her saying that. Maybe she disliked how Sire was trying to market the band at the time.
+Dunk1970 Thanks for the link. I never knew that. I enjoyed most of their songs and didn't really think of them being slick or overproduced. They didn't sound like anything on the mainstream radio. It's interesting that Kristin feels uncomfortable hearing her "psycho" voice as she phrases it. It was that weirdness and off kilter quality that really made them so compelling to me as a teenager. But of course I've enjoyed her music in all the years since then as well.
+Creat Swartz I know what you mean. I discovered that she wasn't a fan of the song after I named my cat after it. LOL
I revisited the song two days ago because Dizzy the 17 year old cat died on Sunday and I wanted to hear it again. I have since given Dylan and Echo the dogs specific instructions not to die.
+Dunk1970 Sorry about your cat, that's tough after 17 years. Great names for the dogs
Creat Swartz
Thanks. She was fit and well a week earlier, so her demise came out of the blue a bit. My wife and I got her and our first dog the day we moved into our first house. The dog ("Indie", as in the music genre) past on Christmas Day 6 years ago and we have since moved house. So that whole piece of history is now in the past. Thankfully Kristin has carried on writing music, so we have more names we can use for future pets. LOL
Dunk1970 thanks for the link. It’s horrible how the music industry treated Kristin. I have loved them since their first album and I think Kristin is an underrated unrecognized genius. Hope she keeps making music!
This would probably be considered country today.
Probably, although listening to today's country, this song sounds a whole lot better than the garbage they currently put on country radio stations. Radio and the music industry have forgotten what good music sounds like. At least we can listen to it here.
This song is a vast improvement from today's music, not just country.
Exactly! The crappiness of today's pop music goes without saying. "Work" by Rihanna makes me wish I was deaf. Today's music is devolving into computerized instrumentation, vocal loops with meaningless words, and no thought or effort whatsoever going into crafting songs. (I almost used the phrase "creative process" in the preceding sentence, but today's music is generally devoid of creativity.)
Hey Tanya, Mike D called and he says he wants his necklace back.
Lol 😂
What do you suppose that settings button does?
Kristen and Tanya!
Holy smokes!
Yay! 1.54; pretty sure that's a Westone!
This is such a good catchy pleasant song. I realize Kristin doesn’t really like this song as it is really not her genre. This song is almost a country pop crossover song. Kristin’s voice sounds great when she goes into that higher pitched upper register. Kristin could have been a country pop superstar but i respect her for instead creating something else and unique. I myself am not a country fan but have a very eclectic taste in music and i do enjoy some country-esque songs done well.
sounds like a meat puppets song ... especially the guitar
i'd say Kristin was being manipulated for 30 seconds by Sire (f**** them). This was the result. I did not like it in 1989 but i liked it tonight. maybe its the weed. The new TM record is lovely. check it.
Really she was manipulating Sire... she took this, her dad's song, and "kinda fucked it up on purpose," (her quote) and gave it to them to get them off her back, making the rest of the record sound the way she wanted it to (Mania! Bea!)
Fun fact: they all personally hated writing this song.
"I took one of my dad's songs and I kinda ruined it on purpose. We gave it to the record label as a joke, like 'You're so dumb, this is what you like.' And they DID like it! We were really in trouble then."
@@JC-yy8iv Amusing quote... Like it or not, it's a great effing song!
Did Volkswagen fund this video?
Who disliked this?
Great song, too bad Kristin utterly hates it--and you can see the disdain in her eyes....
did tanya just buy herself a volkswagen?
Wow. The intro sounds like the pavement song passat dream, a song about buying a volkswagen. Dam son
Could be the college Dixie chicks ?
Yea Oklahoma! We're in a fun song not sung by a borderline bigot! : )
I always liked this song but I'm sorry what they did to you.
therecoup-
didnt kristin write the song? why would she hate it?
I read a comment for "Dizzy", on a live version, I think, and it said Kristin thinks it is too pop.
She said in a recent interview that her father wrote Dizzy and Not Too Soon and that they turned them into "terrible things" and "monstrous events." Not quite sure of the meaning, but there ya have it.
wearecult.rocks/interview-kristin-hersh-2
@@AJandWrmyinitials Kristin's father also co-wrote Sinkhole (from In A Doghouse)
@@AJandWrmyinitials I was under the impression that "Not Too Soon" was written by Tanya, not just sung by her.
Stop Drinking Fire Water
I think they were as good as the Bangles if not better, they just didn't get as much publicity and radio play on the West coast.
they were two different styles
MD Harris not sure you can compare the two imo
MY KEYS AR3E STUCK
Lol she looks like molly from alvvays
Weird
Back when women were actually good looking
and very few had tattoos. Miss those days.
What even is this comment
@@duffbaker9554 you like alternative music but not girls with tattoos? Sheesh, they're not on display just for you
@@narcopsy tattoos, especially visible tattoos, indicate poor impulse control and somewhat a lack of appreciation of future consequencials.
@@keithstewart934 I'm with you on that. Tattoos = trashy to this Gen=X'r
whoopi goldberg on bass, oda mae on bass
Where was Vic Reeves? Ripped off!!!
The throwing muses are the official band of mental illness. I know because i just declared it?!