FIRST LOOK: New 2023 Kia EV9: it’s BIG but is Kia’s Tesla Model X-beater brilliant as well?
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One of the questions we get asked the most at Electrifying.com is what seven seat electric cars do you recommend? Until now we’ve only been able to suggest the van-like Citroen e-Berlingo, the lacklustre and surprisingly small Mercedes EQB or theTesla Model X, which tops £100,000 and is impossible to get hold of.
So while the EV9 may be the most expensive car Kia has built, there’s a great opportunity here for the Korean brand if they get the EV9 right - and from our first look at a pre-production car it seems like they are.
Kia has transformed itself over the past decade from a budget brand to a one able to take on the premium players and the EV9 stands out against the large premium cars from the likes of BMW and Audi, thanks to its fresh modern look and a high quality interior.
Joint Ginny as she takes an in-depth look at the final production version of the new Kia EV9 and don’t forget to read our review of the car over at Electrifying.com.
Will the new Kia EV9 be on your wish list? Do you think Kia is heading in the right direction with the EV9? Would you choose one over a Tesla Model X or Mercedes EQB? As always, we love to hear what you think so get get typing in the comments below.
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I am VERY against the subscription service heated seats and parking sensors... If they are installed, they should be utilized.
It's a scam by these vehicle companies
1000000%
If they are going to put everything on a subscription service basic car should only cost £15000. Why should we be paying to have these things fitted if they are part of a subscription package after purchase.
So far, KIA have resisted the trend.
I think that it is highly likely that legislation will be introduced to make it illegal, probably EU first, and then other markets.
Awful rip off, having to subscribe to use something fitted to your vehicle that you've already paid for.
And another big inefficient SUV lump. For goodness sake.....
Features on demand - that's a big no from me. Any manufacturer who fits all the bells and whistles as standard but won't activate them until you pay extra is to be avoided. It's a shame because it looks as though they've got most things right here.
Personally I need to hear more before I say no. But to be honest I probably won't like what they have to say.
@@Demobot1the only way it makes sense is if it noticeably reduces the cost of the car. If based on the cost of the car you expect those features and they want to charge extra, then they aren’t going to sell. Who wants to buy an $80k vehicle and then have to subscribe to heated seats. There needs to be a “killer app” feature that people are willing to pay for. The only thing i can think of is autonomous driving.
It's the same as buying a package on regular car..
@@Magnus-pm7ic Yes!! And you can add it whenever so lets say you can't afford it when you buy the car and a few months later you get a raise and can afford it. I think its a genius idea! As long as its a one time purchase then sign me up!
@@nickigagged they're talking subscription. That means monthly probably. I can see how the costs work out. I just don't like the idea of not owning the vehicle. For things like heated seats/steering for a lot of ppl, it makes sense cause you probably aren't going to need it the whole year.
If they plan to have a subscription system for heated seats, automatic high beam change and other similar than it's a total NO on my side. If I can pay a one time fee, after purchasing a certain configuration, to have heated seats enabled for all eternity (until they break) then it's not a problem.
I was quite excited about this car until you mentioned "on-demand services " It is as inviting as ULEZ and road pricing by the mile.
The same here.
yep thats me out now, was ready to drop cash
@@wise_human The idea of ''on-demand services'' in cars pure madness! I like the car but hate the on-demand idea!
I'm out too
Paying a sub to something already fitted to your car is not a cool feature, it's a fucking liberty.
"Features on demand" AKA subscriptions AKA Ripping off the customer.
KIA knocking it out of the park once again. Love it
If they go with subscription add on's, they don't deserve to thrive. Taking off for the new owners will devalue the car a great deal.
It’s the current road they are all going down, yet BMW owners don’t care lol
Another great car from Hyundai/KIA/Genesis, they are the new benchmark in EVs
personal taste asside, in what empirical way are they(any of the models) better then the corresponding models from tesla? not fanboying here, just curious, maybe i don't know something.
@@L1LM4N You do have a point. Tesla's self driving tech and its range efficiency is still at the top of the market. However, while its somewhat controversial, many do not prefer the design language that tesla offers and they lack at providing premium feeling interior. And I believe that tesla is classified as a rather premium brand at least in the States and its true when you look at the brand's average MSRP. Kia and Hyundai are offering appealing EVs as mass brands. Tesla focuses on high-tech FSD and range efficiency and all of their cars have some sporty kicks. Hyundai and Kia try to offer interesting designs, 800v fast charging and comfort with slightly less money. Its all down to personal preference.
@@SihE-qj1mo in the real world i think tesla also is the fastest charging, not to mention its supercharger network, that alone is a serious bonus. No muss no fuss, just plug and charge, as oppose to all other brands. Even Nio has issues with the battery swap.(wait times for charging, sometimes you only get a 75 kw/h instead of an 100kw etc.)
Absolutely massive. Great for families. Wouldn't suit me personally but Korea is now a force to be reckoned with. Perhaps they should have christened it the Kia Kardashian EV ????.
South Korea is the world's 6th most powerful country announced by USnews and an international research institute at the University of Philadelphia.
Not massive, leaves very little room behind the 3rd row for luggage.
Vans and minivans are massive, and not inefficient like SUVs. This just lugs around unnecessary weight and wastes energy. Also, SUVs are unsafe for everyone
@@cinilaknedalm why are they unsafe?
@@pnwev Glad you ask. Compare the survival rate of people hit by an SUV vs by car. It's incomparable.
Nice car
But features on demand is stupid.
If you buy a car with features you want them to just work
I think it lives up to the concept expectations. Bravo Kia.
Ok, now bring on EV4!
Finally!! An EV I lust for.
I was mildly interested until the point about paying for activation of heated seats etc. I stopped watching as that's a solid "no" for me. I hate the idea of wastefully carting around hardware that isn't being used and i think it's just money grabbing. KIA is now off my list of potential purchases.
isofixes in third row. FINALLY!!! 4:10 I would like to meet engineer that decided that I need terrain mode on the steering wheel and steering wheel heating control in the infotainment.
I just watched the Fully Charged Show’s video, they used this exact car too. It’s interesting to see different points of view from different people and how they describe things differently. I like that you are referring back to the concept. It’s a great before and after. Thank you for doing that!
I don't mind on-demand features IF you pay once to keep them. I don't want to have to pay year over year for heated seats or an around-view camera system. It actually makes sense in the focus of mass manufacturing to have everything installed, but only enabling what you want. This means when you purchase a car off the lot that doesn't have heated seats built into the car (what happens today), you don't have a car that is sitting on the lot because of that. Instead, ALL cars have heated seats, and when (if) you want them, pay a single price to enable them. But screw everything about yearly subscriptions. Make it a buy once and get it forever and I'm fine with it.
Really like u are able to turn the back seats! The idea of a driving living room is awesome. Looking forward to see the Hyundai Ionic 7 - one of them might be my next family car 🤞
Except, where's the leg room?
I’m currently driving a 2006 Nissan Elgrand, a car I only bought whilst I await delivery of the Fisker Ocean I have reserved. But I’ve fallen for the space and versatility of the interior of the Elgrand, and would really love an updated EV version. This EV9 looks like the nearest equivalent (until the LWB ID Buzz comes along), but the Elgrand has more interior space than the EV9, with a smaller exterior footprint than either of them.
With no leg room and no table it’s honestly just a useless gimmick.
I think it is also illegal to drive with the seats facing backwards in most states in the US. So yes a useless gimmick. Car still looks cool though.
@@AndrewLumsden are you blind? There's tons of leg room in EV9
wow that front grill is insane looking! well done KIA!
I will keep my EV6 which has all the size and tech I need.
I am sure it will be a winner with a long waiting list. Kia needs to up its production rate, they are making some very desirable cars, but here in UK, probably 1 year waiting list for EV6, unless you hit lucky.
I only want to pay for the airbags when they go off, not all the time.
🤣🤣 And will the cost of the subscription be refunded when selling the car?
As someone mentioned earlier the problem I see with "on demand services" is that the car has been fitted with these devices so in fact you have already paid for them so they should be turned on. I can't see KIA or any other manufacturers taking off £500+ because you do not want these features added. I do think that all cars should be fitted with all the safety tech though, blind spot, collision avoidance etc. nice car though it looks very big, think I would aim for a smaller EV when I have to change.
2:20 - I would dispute that assertion. When we were looking for an MPV in 1997, all three of our kids - aged 11, 7 & 4 - desperately wanted the Berlingo
Looks really promising - love the angular design. Good job, KIA👍
@@HS-sr9ww Your comment is stupid, period.
@@CumBrianFries Thanks Chinese.
@@HS-sr9ww You're welcome, mongrel.
@@HS-sr9ww 한국인이 여기서 왜 부끄러운짓을 할까?
The smart #1 Is A Superbly Accomplished Compact Premium SUV ua-cam.com/video/kYUgGUmCJQg/v-deo.html
I think the Features on Demand part was lost in translation. The subscription service is limited to software features such as music streaming or data useage for the digital key feature etc. hardwarewise you get what you pay for.
Subscription is a sin.
Thanks for the video. These car companies are getting too greedy with subscription-based features, and even considering not making those features transferable.
I love this car and would be very interested in getting one for my next vehicle but I will not be buying (or leasing) any car with subscription based "features", so I really hope they don't go down that road.
No way would I pay £60 - £80k and then a subscription....👎
However, I would definitely be interested in buying one as it is miles cheaper than BMW's iX series, yet more practical and spacious. A brilliant family vehicle. Let's hope it can actually tow stuff..?
Imagine your remote control charging you to use the volume control or your mobile phone charging you to use the touch screen. This is no different, if I'm paying that price for a kia badge, I want it all included.
Those are very poor analogies. Come on, you can do much better.
I love it! I've bought my Ioniq5 a year ago, and I love every single aspect of my car but when the EV9 comes out, my Hyundai will be traded for it!
I wish this prototype was the same color blue as the concept. LOVE that color blue a lot!!
I think it’s cool to be able to add on features remotely, but I’m not sure I like that a new owner would have to buy them again.
Kia doesn’t hold their value well here in the US. At least certain models. We had a 2015 Soul top of the line we bought at less than a year old and it started literally falling apart 2 years later at just 3 years old. We traded it for a new Jeep Compass before it really started to get bad. We loved the Soul for about the first year we had it then quickly lost that love. It was really disappointing because it was such a cute, fun little hamster wagon!!
Cool to pay for what I want? How does that work exactly, who pays for the heated seats you never enable? They had to be manufactured and fitted, that costs money. Let's say 30% of people will ever enable a feature like that. That means you'd have to either pay at least for your heater and the two their owners didn't enable, so 3x for it as you'd normally pay, or everyone has to pay up front for the heaters that they got installed but not enabled. And I doubt they'll want to make those "extra" features very expensive, so they'll just make everyone pay for them but not have them. Great deal for manufacturers.
But let them try. It's my car, I'll get someone to hack it and enable everything.
Economies of scale. The extra cost of installing is negligible by removing the processes around individual build.
That said, I read an article which positioned this method in another way. While you may choose to never enable say heated seats, the appeal may be there for a subsequent purchaser of the car. That makes it much simpler for a second user as they no longer have to hunt for a second hand model with the features they're looking for, they can buy from a wide choice and then enable features to suit.
@@djtaylorutube Economies of scale don't make things free. If they did, they could just enable those features on all cars, no? So obviously if you want that feature you're going to either have that hardware included in the price of a car that doesn't have it enabled, or you'll have to pay for your hardware and the hardware of all the people who don't enable it. Someone has to pay for it, and it's not going to be the manufacturer.
And I would never buy a car because I can pay extra to have a feature enabled. I would just buy a car that has the feature, from a different manufacturer.
@@jestempies They do. If the cost of handling variations is greater than just putting the hardware in each vehicle then that's the cheaper result overall.
@@djtaylorutube You're suggesting that the cost of putting a feature in some vehicles is greater than the cost of putting it in all vehicles? Including the hardware, installation, QA etc? I think that's pretty bonkers.
And if so, then why doesn't another manufacturer put all those features in for free and save money?
@@jestempies I am yes because there's process and handling around every single operation and deviation requires more process than just doing the same thing over and over especially where the part cost is minimal.
You should try watching some of Sandy Munroe's videos on manufacturing elegance.
Some companies are already doing just this (BMW, Tesla for example) and it has been common in electronics and software for a long time where a feature unlock is performed via subscription.
It's all down to analysis of course. I worked for a company that had a manufacturing analysis which concluded that removing two screw's from a computer case would save money as that part of the lid already had a clip. However, the cost of the analysis itself also needed to be factored but the overall supply chain and handling of those screws was a factor.
I look forward to jailbreaking my EV9.
Rotating seats had the Renault Espace back in 1987 and the second row transform in a table
And conversions vans since basically forever as a kid in the 1980s we had multiple of em.
Big, BIG, SUV. Whoopeee. Not exactly what the planet needs.
Kia have been doing some great things these last few years. Whilst I really like the interior, sadly I’m not a fan of the exterior look (I wish I was, as I could really use a 7-seater EV!).
Still, with such a people carrier shortage on the market, this is bound to be a success so long as it’s not priced out of contention.
Features on demand - another nope from me. Manufacturers need to understand that things as a service (Spotify, netflix etc) exist because those things get updated regularly and frequently, which makes a subscription competitive with continuously buying new. Cost of ownership for some people is leasing or PCR from new, so subscription might work for them if the cost is equal, but it'll tank in the used market. This in turn drives down residual value, which drives up leasing cost, which affects new sales....
Wasn't a fan of the Kia EV design but this is one I can get behind!!
This appears to be the car I’ve been waiting for! I have a Sorento currently so looking for similar size and practicality, but in an EV! This has been my first Kia and I’d definitely go back for more, especially as at this price point there isn’t another comparable EV!
I love the look! And the rotating middle chairs!
This looks like an electric version of the kia Telluride. Really love how this looks man.
If it stops people buying diesel SUVs, that's a moderate win. Looks significantly less practical than an iD Buzz though.
Looks like Soul on steroids. Obviously made for the American roads and taste. IMHO
Exactly my thoughts.
Looks way better than Tesla but for sure not something i'm in the market for.
Interesting to see how companies are beginning to innovate in this space.
Nice presentation as you always have,,but its impossible for me to hear the talking with all the music.
👏👏👍👍 Whoever is responsible for the sound on this channel's videos needs to be shown the door.
Subscription model makes sense only if its MUCH cheaper than options themselves.
A single game costs 50usd, but a subscription that offers ALL of the games is around 10usd. They even sell their consoles below their realistic price just so that they could sell games and subscriptions.
Offer us a cheap base model price + reasonable subscription and I'm in!
...we all know though thats not how they are gonna start though, not until they learn their lesson.
My estimate is 337 mile range lends closer to a 135kWh battery pack. The brick of a vehicle can't be more efficient than 2.5mi/kWh. The faster charging speed probably can be explained by having more battery cells in series.
Will be impressive if they can sell a vehicle with a 135kWh pack for the mid-£60k's.
@@FFVoyager If you have to pay monthly for every feature, they could probably give them away and make a profit.
@@lenuvian Is that their plan to monthly fee everything? I know their current plan is about $150 USD per year that gives you preheating, locking, and location functions from the app. I can’t bring myself to pay them a fee to have functionality that the car came with. Just my opinion.
Also sliding rear doors may be more practical and be cool on an SUV, especially in car parks and families getting in and out.
When I saw the size of the suicide doors on the concept I really thought the production version would have the convenient auto sliding rear doors like a minivan.
Would be cool if it was gull wing door + swivel chair
@@DHKo-mk7up nobody ever looked good getting out of a car with gull-wing doors.
If this size of car is the future, how soon will we see all the current car park spaces throughout the UK repainted to make sure that each vehicle has sufficient space to avoid damaging the adjacent vehicle when doors are flung open? Once subscription services are put in place, it will be so easy for manufacturers have total control over price rises on those subscriptions. Do some research on Adobe's Photoshop if you want to see how it's done!
I mean it’s cool and everything… but can’t wait to see people trying to drive this on UK roads 😂
But people can drive the land rover and land cruiser or g wagon
People in the UK drive Transit vans easily...men or women. This will be easier. Before you say it... Transit vans can and do cost over £60k....
@@mikadavies660 thank you for letting me know prices for vans…
Just one small point for you. Tesla doesn’t offer level 3 driving. They offer level 2. In Europe I think I’m right in saying that only Mercedes currently offer level 3 driving, and only in Germany, and only on divided highways in traffic at less than 40mph. Level 3 just isn’t out there yet so if Kia have cracked and received regulatory approval in Europe then that’s a big deal.
And subscriptions are awful. It’s fair enough to be charged extra for the features you want to enable. It goes against the way it’s been done for decades but I can see reasons why (although I’m some cases it will add weight for something you can’t use). But once bought, they should be part of the vehicle and passed on. This “next owner pays again” idea is just a rip off, and also will destroy second hand value (not the manufacturers care about that, but owners should).
Great video. Love the car. Looks absolutely huge though for British roads, garages and car park spaces! Those nice wide back doors could cause some damage to cars in adjacent spaces!
What an excellent and thorough review on a new car! As far as paid subscription, I think we should revolt and protest. Many people have cut off their cable just so their money can be shifted towards Netflix, Amazon, Prime, Hulu, and other subscriptions. Paying for subscriptions on a car is offensive and ridiculous and I will bet you a fountain soda that it will end in about three years-I hope. Thanks!
I really wish that this was made by a US company so I could pay twice as much and watch it fall apart as I drive it out the showroom.
Hyundai and Kia are on a roll at the moment. I wish they would buy JLR and bring back Rover while they're at it using their platforms. That group could challenge Stelantis and VAG.
Not having the suicide doors is a real disappointment and other than the reversible seats it’s pretty bland. 8 years after the Model X with its amazing rear doors and we get this…
In terms of paying for features later I’m ok with it. After all we often have different ‘packs’ we can specify from new. Overall it is probably cheaper to put all the features in every car and have some people not want / not pay for them than have a more complicated production line. BUT…must be purchasable with no long term subscription requirement, transferable and if there are features that a person might use rarely, then available for short term subscription (say 1 month). I wouldn’t buy a car with long term subscription on top of the purchase cost.
But manufacturers definitely won’t pass the savings onto the customer, you will be paying twice, forever.
KIA design are just knocking it out the park, never thought I would looking at KIAs over other brands
Makes any other big SUV look 20 years old. I am probably in the minority when I say I think the EV6 is hideous. But this EV9 with it's angles ticks every Tonka box and then some. Can't wait to see them on the road.
I would prefer all safety extras such as blind spot, rear cross traffic, collision avoidance and lane keeping to be as standard, but would be willing to pay for heated seats and heated steering wheel automatic headlights Sat nav because I don’t use them every journey especially if they brought the overall costs down
Yeah really? On a 60k + electric suv Kia really needs the extra 20 dollars a month for heated seats? It’s a ridiculous concept and people need to resist so they knock this crap out
@@Reebok4523 You talk like 60k EV is supposed to be considered expensive or something lol. 60k EV is like a 40k ICE.
Will this exist in 5 seat configuration ?
I own a tesla, I am glad they kept the ease of access buttons. I would love to order this for my wife as the family hauler.
Kia is killing it again after the ev6. Much more original than german premium and technology is superior with its 800v architecture
Excellent work Ginny and electrifying team. Keep it up. We'll await the new Santa Fe for comparison
so.... what size is it? bigger then a model y/ toyota highlander?
Around the size of an oil tanker
Really good presenter and wonderful filming! I have Sorento now and this is my new dream car! The ev6 was way to small
finally a large EV SUV that doesn't compromise on interior capacity. been waiting forever
i love the exterior design and the interior overall EXCEPT for the rotating seats. In the video you can see how little room there is when the seats are facing each other. You and your friends will be interlocking your knees if the seats are in that configuration. A wasted bit of engineering which i would rather have something like removable 2nd row seats for the option of more cargo space. But overall, I'm excited to purchase one. I've had a deposit with my local dealer for the EV9 for months!
That price tag for an over sized bonneted MPV, you then have to rent some of the features… but you don’t get a rear screen wiper. I’m surprised they’re not charging extra for using the wheels.
I’m with the 85% … For starters, why should I have to pay for carrying around the weight of these add-ons if they don’t work? If they’re not working, take them away please, so I can benefit from the extra efficiency.
A remarkable looking car.
Basically an electric version of Telluride
If the previous customer paid for the accessory - eg heated seats, matrix lighting etc - then it should be transferable to the new owner. Without the main company charging for that service again...unless it provides an unconditional guarantee for it to work for at least 3 more additional years.
Looks like a beast!
Sad to see the loss of ground clearance/big wheels and general loss of good looks from the protoype. I was considering this as an option for a "van alternative" but for the price, I'll keep looking, maybe the Canoo and Buzz. Both have retained more aesthetics that this vehicle in my opinion. This is looking a bit too much like Toyota styling, which I really dislike. I'm sure it will sell well, though, as there isn't much like it.
I am fine with the idea of paying to unlock a feature if it brings the overall price of the vehicle down. I might not want something, but the next buyer will.
what i don't like is the idea that i, say, unlock heated seats and sell the car, it could potentially be locked out to the next buyer. Once bought it should be with the vehicle for life.
Very Nice. I'm employed@Kia. I must say that I'm really impressed how good the EV9 looks.
If the seats are heated, you can just have someone mod them to work normally.
It’s SO refreshing to see automakers not copying the boring styling of Toyota’s and Honda’s, anymore!
You gotta give Hyundai, Genesis and Kia credit, where credit is due…
Features by subscription is possibly better than people think. It should actually reduce cost as it simplifies production: fitting everything as standard means just one production line with no chance of mistakes along the way. Then, as long as you can choose between buying the options at a fixed cost initially, much as you'd do now with trim levels, or just paying for them when you need them, it should offer flexibility in purchase price. Go cheap and only pay for heated seats and steering wheel in the winter, but then lose a little on resale value further down the line, or pay upfront and have a better car to sell later on.
Better put charge door on right front or left rear for Tesla Superchargers. Not doing that ignores reality.
Subscription doesn't seem too bad if it's a genuine cost reduction. The idea of paying say £30 for three months of a heated steering wheel over winter rather than say £300 outright for it, makes some sense.
I haven’t been keen on ice Kias but I must say I would deeply consider an ev6 or ev9 I like Kias electric cars a lot
Small note: Tesla is not at Level 3 autonomous driving - it’s still at Level 2. Mercedes was the first to Level 3 and it seems like other brands like Kia are getting there, but Tesla is not there yet.
Looks great. Too big for my needs. ‘Features on demand’ is worrying. I’m okay with the concept if it is for silly features I would never want but if for things I actually NEED then that’s a different story entirely. On the other hand, apart from a steering wheel, brake/accelerator, lights, heater and a seat belt what do I really need anyway‽!!!
Features on demand is a horrible idea
Judging by your comment i would humbly assume that you are of the generation that didn't have safety features/systems on your 1st&2nd car such as smart break assist, addaptive cruise control etc. The only reason my daughter is walking this earth right now is the fact that a small (new) renault had that smart break assist and didnt plow her full force on the pedestrian crossing. it only broke her leg. So to answer your question i pray to sweet baby jesus that every car on the road has that and they work 100% as included in the BASE car.
How can you be ok with KIA owning your vehicle, which you payed for?
@@L1LM4N they’ll fit it, raising the price, then charge you again for using it, raising the price even more. Don’t think for a second that you’ll save any money.
@@oliverstemp9132 i'll just copy an earlier post of mine from the same video :) i am in agreement with what you said. " If people are compliant and accept these predatory "pay to something" services sooner or later we will buy a new car with 3 wheels and a "very great deal" for a 4th. Don't be stupid, think in advance about the things being pushed down our throats and take into account that other car manufacturers are updating older models with free seat or steeringwheel heating. Thats the way it should go. Or i don't know, cutting the price by as much as 10k on certain models. Let's see the majority of the car industry do that.|
It looks great. Not keen on paying for extra components to be switched on.
In my opinion you guys should make a video fixing customers engines that are burning oil and blowing up themselves just like mine is I would like to hear from you guys what's the remedy for all those customers with a 2.0 l engine. Not to mention I got a letter from you guys not to park in the garage because it could stand on fire even when it's not on Great job Hyundai and Kia
Kia has improved dramatically over the past 15 years.. look at the performance !
The problem is that options used to be a cost in manufacture and added during the process by specific vehicle - now with changes in manufacturing process it’s simpler to have everything installed, of course software but also hardware - but then how do you charge for it. Up selling spec is a profit area that has to be used or you have to lift the whole price of all cars and people pay for stuff they don’t want. If you don’t like hot bot why pay for it? Also be aware that margins in the auto industry are slim - last time I checked BMW were operating at about 7.5% trading margin - start giving away the options and that soon disappears as they have always been a major profit driver.
Good unbiased review Ginny - only omission was not mentioning the #Mercedes #MQV when it comes to 7 seat EVs and the new one has a 100kwh battery too . Have to say the #EV9 is a bit of a let down versus it’s fantastic concept they should’ve kept the doors and dash for the wow factor . This new idea of charging monthly for features is concerning and it’ll affect the used market if they’re going to try and recharge people for them it’s a concern it’s a big concern to the purchase market but it might work if lease companies move into the used market I think cat ownership will be rare in the future particularly with expensive EVs - what we need is more cheaper chinese cars to shake up the market - the BYD Atto 3 is overpriced to make market share can’t see people choosing it over say a Cupra Born ( my comment ended up on the byd atto ! Doh ! )
It´s much closer to the concept than 99% of production vehicles shown versus their Concept, so I´m at least quite pleased with the design. The concepts door design might be not optimal for cost optimization, so I rather have normal doors and ~2-3k$ lower price tag.
We don’t need Chinese cars anywhere except in China. Their gov’t is dictatorial and their actions on locking people in their homes to and beyond the point of starvation is horrible. China only cares about world dominance economically and politically. They don’t care about their people. What makes you think they will care about you when they are in the position the USA is right now as world leader? Something to really think about. China will not be coming to the aid of those who suffer natural catastrophes. Time to wake up.
The voice of the presenter sold me
Greetings from southern Ontario Canada I really enjoyed the video looking forward to seeing this ev here and looking forward to seeing it at the NY auto show April 9
Hello Ginny I would be ok with the subscription costs for the upgrades but only if once it has been bought for the car it stay with the car it makes sense for the re sale , the very large doors are nice the only problem its hard for older people to close them when in the car its a long reach. I drive a GV 60 and I think I still prefer the Genesis over the Kia . Great review thanks .
Kia is on a roll
I’m not even a Kia fan but I like this one. I may end up getting one next month
Can only imagine just how high the price will be
Interesting car, absolutely love your review however what was the price for this trim or the basic trim ?
The on-demand services only make sense if we consider a vehicle on a lease/rent basis. That may suit the first owner - but car brands would need to find a way to provide a good leasing deal for used cars and essentially not really market cars for sale. They then turn in to mobility service providers. Thats a massive change in the car market - which might have to happen as the dealership network model is based on maintenance revenue which doesn't work so well with electric vehicles which have fewer moving parts. I just wonder what happens to the used cars once they've been through a couple or three leases (most likely with some level of re-manufacture to sort out damage between leases). Are we going to see the end of the cheap used car, with the manufacturer recycling them after say 6 years because they want to keep us all in new lease vehicles???
Features On Demand give owners the option to buy or lease at a lower initial price and then add features later as your purse permits. Also, they help ensure that the option is available on all cars.
If the hardware is installed I want to be able to use it at no cost. An ongoing subscription for something like heated seats or something is ridiculous as there are no ongoing costs to the manufacturer. A subscription for an app - sure, as they have server costs etc, but a fixed piece of hardware, not a chance.