Bought a new R3 recently for $3,999, inclusive of tax and free shipping. Two grand price drop. This may be the last camera I’ll ever buy. At least, I won’t look at another until the R1 Mark IV is released.
I would think the R3 could do some of the things canon added to the R1 via a firmware update but I doubt if that will ever happen, canon knows where its money is. Shame because I’m certain the R3 can do more, for example they added the 195 fps via a firmware update. Let’s hope they do add more features.
@@alexfns2427I think most sports photographers are chimping in the EVF anyway, with rear screen flipped to save battery life and work more efficiently. So, I’m sure they appreciate the boost in battery life.
Hugely helpful information here. If I'm being honest with myself, I have no business owning either camera as I'll never be anything more than an avid hobbyist. However, one of these bodies will be added to my kit before too long...
I was at a canon event, and had a quick look at the R1, I had it in my hands long enough to fiddle a little around in the menu's, and by turning the lightness in the viewfinder down a bit, and setting the (jpg) image style to low contrast and toned down colours, I managed to make the viewfinder look a lot more like an optical viewfinder, which will be a deal-breaker for me, as I get a headache from the typically very bright and over-satuated image of the EVF of R-cameras.... - There were also an R3 available, but in the very short time of the event, I didn't manage the same result with the R3, however, I didn't put the same effort into it as what I did with the R1, so I wonder, is it possible that I can have You try out for me, whether changing the image style to low contrast and less satuation, will affect the image in the viewfinder....???
There is literally zero point in buying an R1 unless you are not the one buying it and the person who is doesn’t care about money. Recapture, 40fps in stills And Clog2 do not justify the delta for the jump to an R1. I have an R3 and I do not feel the R1 is good value for money, you better off getting 2 used R3’s at the price of one R1
"Now thats important to consider, thats a camera and a LOVELY {emphasis on lovely} lens, now that is significant LOLOLOLOLOL best line in the whole video
Why do we care about the back screen again??? Really?! If I don’t print images why do I care… print, hang, share or sell. The R1 is slightly out of my budget. R5 mii is right about where the wallet will go. R5 O.G. 2nd can and r5 mii main cam. I shoot high school sports. … maybe a used r3 for 3k that would sweet. Great video mate!
I would be really happy (over the moon) with either camera! either would be a massive upgrade from my 60D but i dont have that sort of cash and i dont think i ever will. 😢
Gareth , the one comparison you forgot to leave out which unfortunately is a disappointment on the R1 is the resolution on the rear screen unfortunately the R1 is 2.1 million dots per inch , while the R3 is 4.2 million dots per inch I just cannot understand why Canon degraded the rear monitor on the R1 while they really increased the resolution in the view finder 9.1 million dots per inch , please answer that one for me .😢
Two reasons. This is a Pro camera and most Pros aren’t looking at their rear screen when taking photos. The EVF is much more important for the intended buyer. Secondly; battery life.
I'm debating between an R3 and an R5II right now....I have an R5 original and think its good for what I want 45mp for, and 45mp is too much for high volume sports shooting which pushes me to R3. But...FOMO...lol.
I take bird pictures and I made a mistake buying the R3, should have bought the R5 because of the pixels. I have many pictures where the bird is too far away so I will buy the R5 45 MP to get a little bit bigger birds on my pictures.
Unless you need state of the art sticky autofocus. If you really, really, really need to get the shot in action sports, you kinda want the R1 if possible.
R1 upscale and noise are both AI. No thank you. Why would I do them in camera, when I can use software on a computer that is much more capable of working with an image? As far as I understand, the upscaling AI in camera also saves the file as a JPG (correct me if I am wrong). It seems Canon have put a less aggressive AA filter in front of the sensor, so that it produces sharper images OOTB. I wonder how the R1 compares to the R3 when it comes to moiré. R1 = R3 II. We all know that the R3 was meant to originally be called the R1, but Canon tried to save face when they got their asses smacked by Sony's A1. The R3 has been deliberately hamstrung by shitty firmware updates from Canon too. Obviously cripplehammering it to protect the upcoming R1.
R3 is actually not that match different from R1, the firmware update has added a lot of features to R3. The difference doesn’t justify spending another $3000 on R1
@@gtotalman The capabilities are completely different. And you can't fix that with firmware. For example, the AF is completely different. There are many parts of the R1 that are unnecessary for the average person.
What ? Lol the R1 looks massively overpriced next to the R3. Do you really need 40 fps over 30 ? The new AF looks cool but the R3 is already deadly accurate. Same 24 mp, better rear screen on the R3, it's lighter and cheaper.
What ? Lol the R1 looks massively overpriced next to the R3. Do you really need 40 fps over 30 ? The new AF looks cool but the R3 is already deadly accurate. Same 24 mp, better rear screen on the R3, it's lighter and cheaper.
What a (unnecessary) giant brick of a camera is this? Looks really outdated. Canon wants you to believe that they are still state of the art but actually that's not the case along the Sony A1 and Nikon Z9.
I love my R3 and R5 but have bit the bullet and pre-ordered the R1 and R5 MKII - can wait :)
Bought a new R3 recently for $3,999, inclusive of tax and free shipping. Two grand price drop. This may be the last camera I’ll ever buy. At least, I won’t look at another until the R1 Mark IV is released.
I have the R3 an the R5 mk2 but still pre-ordered R1 cant wait to get it
The more I see and learn about all these new cameras coming to market, the more I LOVE my Nikon Z9
I love my R3 and did preorder the R5 ii to go along with it…I think I’ll be very happy!
Yes that's a nice combo. The R1 looks massively overpriced next to the R3
Excellent review! The in camera file upsizing is a game changer!!
Good question, 6k sounds very useful depends on subject (wildlife etc) informative video Thanks Park Cameras.
I would think the R3 could do some of the things canon added to the R1 via a firmware update but I doubt if that will ever happen, canon knows where its money is. Shame because I’m certain the R3 can do more, for example they added the 195 fps via a firmware update. Let’s hope they do add more features.
Love my R3 and gonna get R5 Mark II later on
I saw a post saying that the R3 had a better performing back screen than the R1 which makes 0 sense if true. Did you happen to notice?
Yeah this has already been confirmed by other reviewers. They lowered the resolution to help with battery life apparently.
@kpopfanphotos not a fan of that on a $7k camera tbh, if I was planning to buy it, I'd sure as heck want the better screen 🤷♂️
But the R1 with the much Better EVF in trade. Seems more then fair.
Yes it's true. The R3 makes the R1 look overpriced. The R1 should have been a 40mp camera
@@alexfns2427I think most sports photographers are chimping in the EVF anyway, with rear screen flipped to save battery life and work more efficiently. So, I’m sure they appreciate the boost in battery life.
Hugely helpful information here. If I'm being honest with myself, I have no business owning either camera as I'll never be anything more than an avid hobbyist. However, one of these bodies will be added to my kit before too long...
What do you think of the R1’s LCD screen? I’ve heard it has half the pixels/resolution of the R3, so I’m curious if it is a noticeable downgrade.
Fairly interesting points raised and solved by a Canon r1 mark ii?
I was at a canon event, and had a quick look at the R1, I had it in my hands long enough to fiddle a little around in the menu's, and by turning the lightness in the viewfinder down a bit, and setting the (jpg) image style to low contrast and toned down colours, I managed to make the viewfinder look a lot more like an optical viewfinder, which will be a deal-breaker for me, as I get a headache from the typically very bright and over-satuated image of the EVF of R-cameras....
- There were also an R3 available, but in the very short time of the event, I didn't manage the same result with the R3, however, I didn't put the same effort into it as what I did with the R1, so I wonder, is it possible that I can have You try out for me, whether changing the image style to low contrast and less satuation, will affect the image in the viewfinder....???
For my needs my EOS R and R3 cover all bases
There is literally zero point in buying an R1 unless you are not the one buying it and the person who is doesn’t care about money. Recapture, 40fps in stills And Clog2 do not justify the delta for the jump to an R1. I have an R3 and I do not feel the R1 is good value for money, you better off getting 2 used R3’s at the price of one R1
"Now thats important to consider, thats a camera and a LOVELY {emphasis on lovely} lens, now that is significant LOLOLOLOLOL best line in the whole video
I own a R3 and R5 -and have shot with R1 -my call is that there is only very small difference between the R1 and R3 -no reason to upgrade
Both are right!
Why do we care about the back screen again??? Really?! If I don’t print images why do I care… print, hang, share or sell. The R1 is slightly out of my budget. R5 mii is right about where the wallet will go. R5 O.G. 2nd can and r5 mii main cam. I shoot high school sports.
… maybe a used r3 for 3k that would sweet.
Great video mate!
I would be really happy (over the moon) with either camera! either would be a massive upgrade from my 60D but i dont have that sort of cash and i dont think i ever will. 😢
wait another 2 or 3 years and the used R3 prices will be very reasonable. It's a lovely camera and worth every $.
Wish I could afford either one.
Gareth , the one comparison you forgot to leave out which unfortunately is a disappointment on the R1 is the resolution on the rear screen unfortunately the R1 is 2.1 million dots per inch , while the R3 is 4.2 million dots per inch I just cannot understand why Canon degraded the rear monitor on the R1 while they really increased the resolution in the view finder 9.1 million dots per inch , please answer that one for me .😢
Two reasons. This is a Pro camera and most Pros aren’t looking at their rear screen when taking photos. The EVF is much more important for the intended buyer. Secondly; battery life.
I'm debating between an R3 and an R5II right now....I have an R5 original and think its good for what I want 45mp for, and 45mp is too much for high volume sports shooting which pushes me to R3. But...FOMO...lol.
I like my budget R6 MK II !!!
I just need the C-log 2 in my R3 please.
@@baekmedier This !
I take bird pictures and I made a mistake buying the R3, should have bought the R5 because of the pixels. I have many pictures where the bird is too far away so I will buy the R5 45 MP to get a little bit bigger birds on my pictures.
Cropability can definitely be a thing with bird photography.
ther both The best for me
R1 has cheat codes!! 🤣😂
The R1 is a huge disappointment. I'd buy a used R3 instead.
Unless you need state of the art sticky autofocus. If you really, really, really need to get the shot in action sports, you kinda want the R1 if possible.
That's not what guys at the Paris Games have said...
Only for UA-camrs…
You can't say that when you haven't use it yet
That’s exactly what I did. I snagged a used (+10) R3 for $3,800 from B&H. Absolutely LOVE it.
Not sure I’ll need the R1, yet. 😂
Seems like a r3 mark ii
Is R3 better than R6 ll for photography? I am wedding photographer. Thanks
Definitely
R1 has better in 3 stops dynamic range than r5 mark 2
R1 upscale and noise are both AI. No thank you. Why would I do them in camera, when I can use software on a computer that is much more capable of working with an image? As far as I understand, the upscaling AI in camera also saves the file as a JPG (correct me if I am wrong).
It seems Canon have put a less aggressive AA filter in front of the sensor, so that it produces sharper images OOTB. I wonder how the R1 compares to the R3 when it comes to moiré.
R1 = R3 II. We all know that the R3 was meant to originally be called the R1, but Canon tried to save face when they got their asses smacked by Sony's A1.
The R3 has been deliberately hamstrung by shitty firmware updates from Canon too. Obviously cripplehammering it to protect the upcoming R1.
We never satisfied😊
The R1 came out and the R3 became a toy.
R3 is actually not that match different from R1, the firmware update has added a lot of features to R3. The difference doesn’t justify spending another $3000 on R1
@@gtotalman
The capabilities are completely different. And you can't fix that with firmware. For example, the AF is completely different.
There are many parts of the R1 that are unnecessary for the average person.
What ? Lol the R1 looks massively overpriced next to the R3. Do you really need 40 fps over 30 ? The new AF looks cool but the R3 is already deadly accurate. Same 24 mp, better rear screen on the R3, it's lighter and cheaper.
What ? Lol the R1 looks massively overpriced next to the R3. Do you really need 40 fps over 30 ? The new AF looks cool but the R3 is already deadly accurate. Same 24 mp, better rear screen on the R3, it's lighter and cheaper.
A toy? You’ve never shot an R3 I see.
I own the R3 and will not be buying the R1. Add 12MP to the R3 and you can stop producing the R1.
The Action Priority on R1 is just a mimic. I tried it a lot and It doesn't work well in Basketball ! Please stop giving wrong information !
Are you sure? I watched some live demonstrations footage on other channels, they are crazy accurate
What a (unnecessary) giant brick of a camera is this? Looks really outdated. Canon wants you to believe that they are still state of the art but actually that's not the case along the Sony A1 and Nikon Z9.
In reality nothing feels as good in the hand as the R3.