@@prempititantipool3075 I don't know about destroy but I don't doubt it today because I believe Sinner and Alcaraz are the best tennis players that have lived, however, the materials, racquets and surfaces have changed as well, so it's like comparing a violinist to a cellist
Just goes to show that Federer could smack the ball like anyone else. Frankly, almost anyone can just smack the ball as hard as they can. So many folks think Gonzalez had the greatest forehand because he hit the majority of his forehands as hard as he could. But it didn't lead him to winning against the top players nor did it result in many tournament wins, much less any Grand Slams. Tennis is about strategy and building a point, not just smacking the ball hard. IMO, Federer was probably the best builder of a point to allow him to smack the eventual winner.
I remember the first time seeing Gonzalez' forehand. I thought "yeah, it's a very powerful shot, but it would be very predictable and therefore very playable by a top-5 player. My friends thought I was nuts and that he was going to beat Federer. I said "he won't even take one set."
That forehand at 4:49 is just the purest. If you play tennis yourself, it sorta clicks in your brain: you already *know* at the end of his preparation, just before he hits the ball that it will detonate... such perfect timing.
Just BEAUTIFUL! Aces it EVERY TIME - down the line or cross-court... right in that back corner with pristine accuracy! I miss Federer - he definitely was the TRUE GOAT!
Federer, like most great 1HBH champions, always "went for the lines" . It may be a somewhat low percentage shot, but when hit well, makes it to the history books (and videos). And aesthetically, Fed has been perhaps the best of them all.
Nadal didn't claim that shot. Big 4 could hit that kind of running forehand with the reverse follow-through every time they wanted. Pete Sampras was good at it. It's not unique to Nadal.
Watching this, I'd say there's another aspect to Roger's play that made him so beloved, and I'd not be surprised if many who loved his play and him as ambassador of the sport haven't realised it has influenced them. With the shrieking of female players that became more and more common from Seles onwards (Maria Shriekopova possibly the worst?), and increasingly grunting and groaning male players (while I admire and respect him greatly, Rafa's pretty bad on that front, let's be honest), Roger rarely made much noise other than a "come on" or a phrase or two in Swiss German after winning a point. Just another way he stood out. In some ways he's a bridge between "old school" all-court playing style and conduct vs the more crude, repetitive baseline slug-fests of the modern era. Novak has been the greatest male player of that modern style so far, predominantly a defensive player vs Roger's aggressive style, and that's how he overcame Roger so effectively. It's entirely possible we won't ever see anyone top his record, regardless of people making silly claims about Sinner and Alcaraz, and I'm sure both of them would also say anyone thinking they deserve to be considered with the "Great Three" is foolish until either of them at least gets to ~15 slams. Here's the thing, however: not everyone LIKES the modern style, and I think THAT is often at the heart of why many people will always PREFER Roger over Novak regardless of numbers. I DO find it odd and sad that it creates so much heat on the internet, however, given a preference is just that, a personal PREFERENCE, not an objective standard. It's not a logical position away from which someone can be argued, so attempting to do so is as foolish as it is certain to fail.
Same as all the greats, including RAFA DJOKO MURRAY, they all failed miserably in big finals against each others. But they all managed to get 20 slams which is insane !!!!
@@oceanedetotes Thanks, yes, that's what I thought. There are some players who have hit it that hard - eg Del Potro once hit a forehand at 126mph (over 200kph) - but very few. I certainly never saw Federer do it. Alcaraz might have done it (I've seen him hit over 175kph) and maybe Monfils but I can't think of any others.
nadal never lossed at french finals, djoki never lossed at Aus finals ..FEdsqaush lossed 4 times at wimbledon finals on jis supposed best surface to nadal/djoki
@@erickfelipe Called facts ...when armchair tennis players have a love affair and get sold by FED marketing hard to see the facts..Fed is a the goat of selling the most running shoes and watches
Fed is for sure overated!! His career stats against nadal/djoki is a failure only winnning 33% of their matches in GS,never beat nadal once at french, 50% of feds tiltes were on B circuit 250/500, losing record H2H against both nadal/djoki over his career,, Lossed to djoki 3 times ina row at wimbledon finals on his Supposed best surface!! His grass winning percentage is lower than djoki at wimbledon!! Fed never won all the masters titles... Fed was weak mentally, weak backhand, weak in tennis smarts ..Bottom line fed was very overrated ..He did sell lots of running shoes and watches though
@@KingSach24 Everyone has one off stat and those are 1000 series ..djoki has a wining record over fed at master 1000 matches and so did Nadal..More failure by fedsqaush
Federer won what he did mainly through a level of talent in the domain of coordination. He wasn't a physical beast like Nadal, he was probably too lazy to go to the tedious lengths Djokovic has to become a a rubber-bodied freak with insane endurance... well, probably very few people could be bothered to go to those lengths. Federer didn't even have a coach during his most dominant period. That's why people will always rewatch his matches, because when you watch him you see nature expressing itself, his talent unfolding in real time. You see an example of life as artistic expression, an example of how good life can be for someone who finds their niche. It's just him in tune with the ball, in tune with his racquet. As is often repeated, he barely sweats... it's not the military drudgery that sport is for the most part. It's a guy who can do special things, as now we see with Alcaraz. Alcaraz brings the joy back to tennis after a long period of mechanical drudgery. For people who admire determination in the face of adversity, and excellent sportsmanship in general, they can rewatch Djokovic's achievements. Generally for me, I only rewatch Djokovic matches when he brings out the best in attacking players, like Wawrinka beating him at the French Open. That was spectacular, a peak moment in the sport.
Imagine a one handed backhand that could beat Sinner or Alcaraz today, that was Swiss tennis back then, both Fed and Wawrinka
classic braindead and baseless comment from a hilariously delusional fan
Ya Stanimal backhand and Neo backhand were insane. I would also include prime Dominic thiem.
Alcaraz will destroy Federer in FO and wimbledon.
@@prempititantipool3075 I don't know about destroy but I don't doubt it today because I believe Sinner and Alcaraz are the best tennis players that have lived, however, the materials, racquets and surfaces have changed as well, so it's like comparing a violinist to a cellist
@@astrahcat1212sinner and Alcaraz the best tennis players that lived? LMAO you're clearly new to tennis
Assassin-like artistry in motion
Just goes to show that Federer could smack the ball like anyone else. Frankly, almost anyone can just smack the ball as hard as they can. So many folks think Gonzalez had the greatest forehand because he hit the majority of his forehands as hard as he could. But it didn't lead him to winning against the top players nor did it result in many tournament wins, much less any Grand Slams. Tennis is about strategy and building a point, not just smacking the ball hard. IMO, Federer was probably the best builder of a point to allow him to smack the eventual winner.
I remember the first time seeing Gonzalez' forehand. I thought "yeah, it's a very powerful shot, but it would be very predictable and therefore very playable by a top-5 player. My friends thought I was nuts and that he was going to beat Federer. I said "he won't even take one set."
Man I miss watching him play.
Nostalgic shots from old and more recent matches! Remember them all like it's yesterday, but time flies:)
That forehand at 4:49 is just the purest. If you play tennis yourself, it sorta clicks in your brain: you already *know* at the end of his preparation, just before he hits the ball that it will detonate... such perfect timing.
Have been really wanting to hit forehands like him since I started playing tennis🙏
Me too ! I tried, and I tried, and I tried, and I failed.
Just BEAUTIFUL! Aces it EVERY TIME - down the line or cross-court... right in that back corner with pristine accuracy! I miss Federer - he definitely was the TRUE GOAT!
Fed is the ultimate precision shot maker..
If you're watching on a small screen and can't tell right away which one is Federer, just assume it's whoever isn't moaning so ridiculously 🙄🙄
Lmao true
Federer, like most great 1HBH champions, always "went for the lines" . It may be a somewhat low percentage shot, but when hit well, makes it to the history books (and videos). And aesthetically, Fed has been perhaps the best of them all.
Poetry in motion..🎉👌
0:43 That was Nadal's own shot.
Grip and follow through aside, their forehands were more similar than different.
Nadal didn't claim that shot. Big 4 could hit that kind of running forehand with the reverse follow-through every time they wanted. Pete Sampras was good at it. It's not unique to Nadal.
Sir Roger federer golden legend in universal love you so much miss you so much teniss history best player ❤❤❤
Watching this, Federer's forehand was way better when he was younger, he changed it alot..
I know everyone remembers Fed in ‘08 Wimbledon but I really loved his performance in ‘08 US Open. Bounced back like a champ.
Watching this, I'd say there's another aspect to Roger's play that made him so beloved, and I'd not be surprised if many who loved his play and him as ambassador of the sport haven't realised it has influenced them.
With the shrieking of female players that became more and more common from Seles onwards (Maria Shriekopova possibly the worst?), and increasingly grunting and groaning male players (while I admire and respect him greatly, Rafa's pretty bad on that front, let's be honest), Roger rarely made much noise other than a "come on" or a phrase or two in Swiss German after winning a point.
Just another way he stood out. In some ways he's a bridge between "old school" all-court playing style and conduct vs the more crude, repetitive baseline slug-fests of the modern era. Novak has been the greatest male player of that modern style so far, predominantly a defensive player vs Roger's aggressive style, and that's how he overcame Roger so effectively. It's entirely possible we won't ever see anyone top his record, regardless of people making silly claims about Sinner and Alcaraz, and I'm sure both of them would also say anyone thinking they deserve to be considered with the "Great Three" is foolish until either of them at least gets to ~15 slams.
Here's the thing, however: not everyone LIKES the modern style, and I think THAT is often at the heart of why many people will always PREFER Roger over Novak regardless of numbers. I DO find it odd and sad that it creates so much heat on the internet, however, given a preference is just that, a personal PREFERENCE, not an objective standard. It's not a logical position away from which someone can be argued, so attempting to do so is as foolish as it is certain to fail.
that's why they slowing the courts, mostly in major tournaments
His mental strength let him down on some occasions he suffered some tough losses because of that
Same as all the greats, including RAFA DJOKO MURRAY, they all failed miserably in big finals against each others.
But they all managed to get 20 slams which is insane !!!!
What a supreme athlete RF is ? ❤ .
3:44 Toni Nadal appreciates the shot
@@beliebigkeit That angle was insane. Toni Nadal always respected Federer.
man oh man i miss this guy. Just not the same since he has retired. When nadal and then joker are done, tennis will take a big hit.
Imagine you are against a pirate with corsair pant and a bandana and big left arm like a lobster.
One of the MANY reasons that Novak will NEVER, EVER be considered the GOAT. Roger and Rafa have that title on LOCK!!!
💪🏾😃❤️
Keep being delusional!
@@itiswhatitis8875nope, what he said was true. Federer is seen as the GOAT by the vast majority of people, Sinner said so himself
can you imagine if somehow you get the racket on the ball and try to return it? you won't be able to hold the racket much less than returning it.
His biggest weapon was precision not the speed of the ball. I’ve never seen any players who could land their balls ON the line like Roger
Genius!
The thumbnail says there's a 180kph forehand here. Can anyone tell me where it is?
nowhere, it is impossible to hit a forehand at 180kph
@@oceanedetotes Thanks, yes, that's what I thought. There are some players who have hit it that hard - eg Del Potro once hit a forehand at 126mph (over 200kph) - but very few. I certainly never saw Federer do it. Alcaraz might have done it (I've seen him hit over 175kph) and maybe Monfils but I can't think of any others.
理想的なフォームなんだから一番早いたまが打てて当然
good shots, but "destroying" is overselling what he actually did.
Genius. GOAT. 🫅
Nice 👌
Great🎉
こんなん、常にプレッシャー感じるよな。。
awesome
ホントは打てるおじさん…
o_o
nadal never lossed at french finals, djoki never lossed at Aus finals ..FEdsqaush lossed 4 times at wimbledon finals on jis supposed best surface to nadal/djoki
Rage bait folks, don’t rise to it. Especially not for an illiterate
@@Bsmith806 How did u get so cute?? Try and focus on the tennis players if u can?
So? He's the GOAT anyway, keep hating 🤭
@@Bsmith806haha, exactly
@@erickfelipe Called facts ...when armchair tennis players have a love affair and get sold by FED marketing hard to see the facts..Fed is a the goat of selling the most running shoes and watches
Fed is for sure overated!! His career stats against nadal/djoki is a failure only winnning 33% of their matches in GS,never beat nadal once at french, 50% of feds tiltes were on B circuit 250/500, losing record H2H against both nadal/djoki over his career,, Lossed to djoki 3 times ina row at wimbledon finals on his Supposed best surface!! His grass winning percentage is lower than djoki at wimbledon!! Fed never won all the masters titles... Fed was weak mentally, weak backhand, weak in tennis smarts ..Bottom line fed was very overrated ..He did sell lots of running shoes and watches though
Bruh chill out
Then how did he straight set peak djoko at age 34 THREE times?😂😂😂😂
@@KingSach24 Everyone has one off stat and those are 1000 series ..djoki has a wining record over fed at master 1000 matches and so did Nadal..More failure by fedsqaush
Federer won what he did mainly through a level of talent in the domain of coordination. He wasn't a physical beast like Nadal, he was probably too lazy to go to the tedious lengths Djokovic has to become a a rubber-bodied freak with insane endurance... well, probably very few people could be bothered to go to those lengths. Federer didn't even have a coach during his most dominant period. That's why people will always rewatch his matches, because when you watch him you see nature expressing itself, his talent unfolding in real time. You see an example of life as artistic expression, an example of how good life can be for someone who finds their niche. It's just him in tune with the ball, in tune with his racquet. As is often repeated, he barely sweats... it's not the military drudgery that sport is for the most part. It's a guy who can do special things, as now we see with Alcaraz. Alcaraz brings the joy back to tennis after a long period of mechanical drudgery. For people who admire determination in the face of adversity, and excellent sportsmanship in general, they can rewatch Djokovic's achievements. Generally for me, I only rewatch Djokovic matches when he brings out the best in attacking players, like Wawrinka beating him at the French Open. That was spectacular, a peak moment in the sport.
@@canski5646 thats not one off stat, thats a SIGNIFICANT STAT. A person in his mid 30’s beat your goat in straights 3 times during his second peak😂😂😂