He was a terrrrible control player too. You have the advantage, why bring your shields down? And using a counter to not let a 2/2 token die? You’re the control deck. Let them kill your 2/2 who cares? 🤦🏻♂️
@@RA-xz9sy I actually got my phone to say this... WHAT A HORRIBLE CONTROL PLAYER The opponent has me at a really low life and two curses that drain me for each creature that enters my battlefield? Let me play this enchantment that will create me more creatures when I cast everything in my deck
Put it to you this way: I'm a UW Control player. I fist-pumped when Seth did that. As has been pointed out, his opponent was a really bad control player, who was throwing out "oops" at times that basically said "I'm super smug." I reserve oops for my own mistakes, or times when I get the impression of smugness from my opponent (like the impression Seth's opponent gave off).
I remember the first time you played Dagger Burn. Really sweet to see this deck again, feels like forever ago! Looks bigger and badder than ever. Edit: I love that you call Clackbridge Clickbait and the Oops was too perfect xD
Oh noooooooooo, not fuel for my Priest. Whatever will I do? Kiwi's right, though. Ferocidon is kind of a scary prospect. The random lifegain is actually pretty relevant every now and then.
Editor like editing out stuff. A recent video seth cast a spell, opponent responded (was cut), and Seth played another spell that without the context of the opponent responding made no sense.
@@DEV-Plays No, it would still have an animation of appearing on the stack and lands tapping. You can also tell there's a cut because of the background animations
Wow match 4 mightve been the worst control player I've ever seen. Goes shields down to make 1/1 when they could've waited a turn and had mana up. Casts Shark Typhoon into two Curses. Spends best counterspell on a removal spell on 2/2, causing them to lose 4 cards in hand...
@@stephenhousman6975 At the time he said that, he had a Murderous Rider +Bloodchief's Thirst in hand. Swift End EOT into Thirst on Seth's turn had a decent chance of resolving (especialy with another thirst that he scried to bottom as a back up).
@@petrsevcik5044 Sure then you lose 3 cards (countered swift end + thirst) vs their draw (from tef) + 2 lost cards (tef and counter). That is a worse position
Seth I've got to say, i've never loved and laughed so much at any MTG content as much as I did with this deck! I loved it to peices! Truly a masterpeice
23:39 What is with that edit there? It cut out the opponent casting push so until Seth said 'can't push without revolt' I had no idea what had just happened. Editing to make a snappier video is all good but that cut was not good viewing.
Words cannot express how happy I am you went ghis direction Seth, I absolutely love Dagger Burn to bits. I have tried to make a Dagger Burn deck for EDH but to no avail. Don't suppose you could drop Tomer a line about making deck centered around that theme?
I've actually built a really fun version of dagger burn using yarok and the hunted creatures cycle and cards like poison belly ogre and netherborn phalanx its hilarious
1.Genesis Chamber 2. 5 colors ( your choice) 3. Grismold the Dread Sower 4. Stack up the etbs, play blood artist etc. You want to squeeze value. Seth played a pretty sweet Golgari version, but you get some great stuff in red, blue and white. So go nuts!
Oopsing that total D-bag SequenZ may have been my favorite thing from any of your videos I've ever watched and I've watched countless hours of your game play. Kicking control players Ds off is literally the greatest feeling ever, especially when they are total piles like him. The greatest thing I've ever done was while facing a land destruction deck, this guy starting 'good gaming' me on turn one and never stopped. He kept me at 1-2 lands for at least 10 turns. I was so pissed at the non-stop emotes that I started to rope him. Figured I'd be was going to be that sore of a winner, I was going to make him spend as much time on a single win as I possibly could. Somewhere around turn 20, maybe 30-45 minutes into the game (he was roping me too thinking I'd stop if he demonstrated he wasn't in a hurry), I finally got to 4 lands and cast Circuitous Route and got up to 6 which allowed me to Route again the next turn. He had finally found his clock, so it was still possible he could close it out, but after the second Route, I had the mana to stabilize the board, and knowing what absolute gas I had in hand after looting for 20+ turns, I knew I was about to slaughter him and started spamming the 'good game' emote. He quickly had to scoop to avoid the embarrassment. It's a shame he probably didn't learn anything about not being a dick and probably went right back to GGing people the very next game. Uugh, it still was probably the most satisfying things I've ever done in a game of MtG. Sweet sweet.
Some Karns might have helped you at least get Panharmonicon out more often, if that’s what you were aiming for. Also would have let you grab a Dagger when you needed it.
Oh boy I can feel the spice of this deck, a true showing of the love for the panharmonicon! Definitely stealing this deck for bo1 Seth, I'm really sorry but the hunger for panharmonicon just never stops!!!
Poor Saheeli saying "each opponent." Otherwise, she would probably read "Target Opponent or Planeswalker" after the rules change like she played in Standard and would do more against UW Control. Also, Narset is a necessary evil against the terrors that are Uro and Hydroid Krasis, though without them I would more likely agree with Seth's assessment of her.
Saheeli was printed like that intentionally, cards already included Planeswalkers when they were supposed to at that time And Narset is a MUCH more annoying card that never stopped those cards and just annoyed random fair decks
@@cacs2201 Not true. Narset keeps fair magic a thing. It stops the overwhelming card advantage at bay. Krasis still gains life and is big, but not getting the cards is huge. When playing against Gates, Guild Summit not being able to draw 5+ cards is extremely helpful. Narset is more of a necessary evil.
Every time Seth plays a Trespasser's curse i have a minor panic attack because he always points the targeting arrow toward himself first, before pointing it up to his opponent.
I really hate when you concede before you're dead. You would have had 1 life and in Match 2 Game 3 with no guarantee they had a burn spell. Maybe they did, maybe they didn't. Play it out, don't scoop.
While I tend to agree...opponent had 3 cards in hand and a courier with 3/4 cards under it... this was one of Seth's less cringy concedes in my opinion
@@chuckmyown I mean the odds were definitely against him (hue hue hue) and it wasn't an SCG Open or a PTQ, but there was still the chance opponent had land land land and creature creature land planeswalker under the courier.
I want to make this deck really damn badly, but I don't have the literal 42 rare and 3 mythic wildcards I need... It's beyond absurd how hard it is gonna be to make this deck
I'd add Glint Nest Crane, Arcanist Owl and Ratchet Bomb, while tweaking the mana base to play the Owl. It would be probably better as an esper deck with stuff like glass casket and Teferi anyway, playing more of a long game without necesserily going all in in doing 15 damage a turn. Seems like a fun deck anyway. PLEASE MAKE A MARIONETTE MASTER DECK WITH PHANARMONICON
If you have limited wildcards I'd really try crafting a t1 or t2 deck for ranked grinding so you can at least start getting some good monthly rewards and a bunch of gold, farm historic/standard events, get those packs yknow? The wildcards should start rolling in after that
@@christosx.755 thanks! I do already have a few t1 and t2 decks but like Seth am a huge fan of Panharmonicon and played dagger burn in standard back then.. just trying to relive those good old days! 😁 P.S. the mono black version has gotten me to platinum 2 even with a sub optional build... just lucky I guess 🤞😅 Thanks again!
The hard part is only having four copies of Trespasser's Curse. Maybe some tutors to find them would make it work. Apart from that Mono-Black seems like it should work fine.
Definitely an early scoop against the control player in game 2. But my question is why historic when this is a pioneer legal deck? I know the enthusiasm for pioneer is low, but seeing how this does in a format I can't play makes it less fun to watch...
@@SkorianDnb You're missing the point. I like watching legacy content too, even though I can't afford to play it. It's just that historic isn't a real format to me, and this deck is legal in a format that is more accessible to most people, including those of us who only play paper magic. Besides, pioneer could really use the help of prolific streamers introducing new decks into the format.
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That oops against UW Teferi feels soooooo good
And for a brief moment all was right with the world. xD
@Jim Harbor The final game on match 4. Around 32:00
That win was amazing
If ya try to BM early, you are just gonna get BM'd in the end.
@Jim Harbor it was 36:35 to be exact
Is anyone else NOT AT ALL mad at that oops Seth hit that blue white control deck with? 🤣✊🏾💪🏾
I liked the video because of it.
Same
He was a terrrrible control player too. You have the advantage, why bring your shields down? And using a counter to not let a 2/2 token die? You’re the control deck. Let them kill your 2/2 who cares? 🤦🏻♂️
@@RA-xz9sy I actually got my phone to say this... WHAT A HORRIBLE CONTROL PLAYER
The opponent has me at a really low life and two curses that drain me for each creature that enters my battlefield? Let me play this enchantment that will create me more creatures when I cast everything in my deck
Put it to you this way: I'm a UW Control player. I fist-pumped when Seth did that. As has been pointed out, his opponent was a really bad control player, who was throwing out "oops" at times that basically said "I'm super smug." I reserve oops for my own mistakes, or times when I get the impression of smugness from my opponent (like the impression Seth's opponent gave off).
Welp, you got me Seth, I wasn't expecting this to be the first historic panharmonicon deck for historic
Surprise!
I remember the first time you played Dagger Burn. Really sweet to see this deck again, feels like forever ago! Looks bigger and badder than ever.
Edit: I love that you call Clackbridge Clickbait and the Oops was too perfect xD
Seth: *keeps two land hands constantly*
Also Seth: *Confused why he gets mana screwed*
Two lander are fine if you don't intend to cast cmc5 or 6 on curve.
also playing 20 land is way too few for a deck with no ramp that lives or dies by its 4-5-6-drops. The four glasspools aren't enough.
Dagger burn in a rakdos sac world is bold.
Seems like a great matchup to me, ferocidon and curse were amazing.
Oh noooooooooo, not fuel for my Priest. Whatever will I do?
Kiwi's right, though. Ferocidon is kind of a scary prospect. The random lifegain is actually pretty relevant every now and then.
I literally applauded, alone in my room, when he Oops'd the UW Teferi player
36:30 Behold the Oops of JUSTICE!
I'm never getting bored of this strategy. Thanks for bring dagger burn back Seth!
This deck was so good in standard that they had to ban rampaging ferocidon
no, they banned it because of mono red aggro
@@avner0621 I was joking
@@avner0621 how people can be so dead serious it was such an obvious joke 😭
23:39 the editor edited out the oponent actually casting fatal push? y tho
Editor like editing out stuff. A recent video seth cast a spell, opponent responded (was cut), and Seth played another spell that without the context of the opponent responding made no sense.
they didn't cut it I don't think... I think arena shortcut the push straight to the gy
@@DEV-Plays No, it would still have an animation of appearing on the stack and lands tapping. You can also tell there's a cut because of the background animations
@@cwzqzj ye, but seeing it was necessary to understand the shame scoop
@@CSDragon Exactly, at first I didn't know what he was talking about until I saw the card in the graveyard.
Wow match 4 mightve been the worst control player I've ever seen. Goes shields down to make 1/1 when they could've waited a turn and had mana up. Casts Shark Typhoon into two Curses. Spends best counterspell on a removal spell on 2/2, causing them to lose 4 cards in hand...
Arena doesn't lead to a lot of good players... especially in Plat.
Yes. The rakdos pyro player didn’t play well either
@@jakobostheimer4066 It wasn't as obviously bad.
The UW control basically lost to himself.
@@Geroaergaroe yah, I agree it wasn’t as bad, but I’m just stating that the pyro player played poorly too.
This was the worst control player I've ever seen, *and* they dropped the cocky "oops" twice. What an absolute lad.
"We can never kill this Teferi" he says with two removal spells for Teferi in hand, scrying a third one to the bottom...
With a revealed Dovin's veto in hand and his removal at sorcery speed.
@@stephenhousman6975 It was Hero of Dominaria, which doesn't have a passive, and Narset, who's like Leovold. T3feri wasn't in play.
@@TheREALTheRealAdam His removal was sorcery speed. Most of the time in that game he had bloodchief's thirst not murderous rider.
@@stephenhousman6975 At the time he said that, he had a Murderous Rider +Bloodchief's Thirst in hand. Swift End EOT into Thirst on Seth's turn had a decent chance of resolving (especialy with another thirst that he scried to bottom as a back up).
@@petrsevcik5044 Sure then you lose 3 cards (countered swift end + thirst) vs their draw (from tef) + 2 lost cards (tef and counter). That is a worse position
Against the Oops
This is my favorite jank deck you play. I love clackbridge troll. Great content Seth
32:32 Seth's phone struggling to plug in to his computer had me freaking out. I thought my computer was making those noises.
same
I was using Ubuntu and running Windows on a virtual machine in another screen and my brain bugged so hard!
"Dowsing Dagger, the old school way to give our opponents creatures," *looks at forbidden orchard, crumbles to dust*
*Cries in Donate*
"Clackbridge"? Who are you, and what have you done to Seth?
Match 4 was so triumphantly cathartic. Thank you, Seth!
Seeing this video made my day! This has to be one of the most rediculous decks and it was nice to see it again. Thanks Seth!!!
Four Glasspool Mimics seems ambitious given how high the curve goes and how few cheap creatures you have to copy.
Copying a troll seems pretty sweet.
This was one of my favorite against the odds! So glad to see it back and better than ever
Seth I've got to say, i've never loved and laughed so much at any MTG content as much as I did with this deck! I loved it to peices! Truly a masterpeice
23:39 What is with that edit there? It cut out the opponent casting push so until Seth said 'can't push without revolt' I had no idea what had just happened. Editing to make a snappier video is all good but that cut was not good viewing.
This is the content I come for. Went immediately to arena and realized this is alot if rares boooo.
Watchin this be Panharmonicon week/month for Seth makes me so happy.
36:38 ty seth for saying oops and crushing this teferi player
It wasn’t on the poll but Mechanized Production is what I reeeaaally want to see
Too bad we didnt get cogwork assembler
Mechanised production + Scute Swarm when?
Panharmonicon will always make for enjoyable content. Such a well designed card :)
Gotta "Oops" the double "Oops." Nicely done.
This was truly and awesome watch! :D
Words cannot express how happy I am you went ghis direction Seth, I absolutely love Dagger Burn to bits. I have tried to make a Dagger Burn deck for EDH but to no avail. Don't suppose you could drop Tomer a line about making deck centered around that theme?
I've actually built a really fun version of dagger burn using yarok and the hunted creatures cycle and cards like poison belly ogre and netherborn phalanx its hilarious
1.Genesis Chamber
2. 5 colors ( your choice)
3. Grismold the Dread Sower
4. Stack up the etbs, play blood artist etc. You want to squeeze value. Seth played a pretty sweet Golgari version, but you get some great stuff in red, blue and white. So go nuts!
Oopsing that total D-bag SequenZ may have been my favorite thing from any of your videos I've ever watched and I've watched countless hours of your game play. Kicking control players Ds off is literally the greatest feeling ever, especially when they are total piles like him.
The greatest thing I've ever done was while facing a land destruction deck, this guy starting 'good gaming' me on turn one and never stopped. He kept me at 1-2 lands for at least 10 turns. I was so pissed at the non-stop emotes that I started to rope him. Figured I'd be was going to be that sore of a winner, I was going to make him spend as much time on a single win as I possibly could. Somewhere around turn 20, maybe 30-45 minutes into the game (he was roping me too thinking I'd stop if he demonstrated he wasn't in a hurry), I finally got to 4 lands and cast Circuitous Route and got up to 6 which allowed me to Route again the next turn. He had finally found his clock, so it was still possible he could close it out, but after the second Route, I had the mana to stabilize the board, and knowing what absolute gas I had in hand after looting for 20+ turns, I knew I was about to slaughter him and started spamming the 'good game' emote. He quickly had to scoop to avoid the embarrassment. It's a shame he probably didn't learn anything about not being a dick and probably went right back to GGing people the very next game. Uugh, it still was probably the most satisfying things I've ever done in a game of MtG. Sweet sweet.
Gives me good memories of Poisonbelly Ogre decks back in the lame days
Nothing is sweeter than beating an "oops" opponent!
That's gonna be build and formed to perfection. Thanks
Seth: 'Dowsing Dagger, the oldschool way to give an opponent tokens'
Varchild's War-Riders: 'Am I nothing to you?'
Some Karns might have helped you at least get Panharmonicon out more often, if that’s what you were aiming for. Also would have let you grab a Dagger when you needed it.
I've been using a couple of tutors for this... I've also been playing a bo1 version where masterminds has been clutch more than a couple times
To address consistency of our three card combo, could you squeeze Grim Tutor into the deck?
Seth, I'll say this everytime you play a Dagger Burn deck, if you love that type of deck, please try Toshiro's Forbidden Orchard in Modern.
There’s no such deck that makes Seth cry as a child on December 25. Dagger buuuuuuurn!
Yesssssssss! I wanted Seth to say oops so bad. Good job Seth I'm so proud
Consider relic robber as well....
I never knew I needed giddy BM Seth
Thank you so much for the content Seth I especially like this decks jank style
47:58 There were 6 matches
in the video.
This was my first standard deck I went 5/0 with. I will never forget the look on the faces of the token decks.
43:18 Seth had an opportunity to equip Dowsing Dagger for the first time :(
Oh boy I can feel the spice of this deck, a true showing of the love for the panharmonicon! Definitely stealing this deck for bo1 Seth, I'm really sorry but the hunger for panharmonicon just never stops!!!
This deck is a gem!
Man, historic looks like is getting pretty fun.
So many cool old cards...
The Deck link takes me to a Bant Yorion deck. I still enjoy your content.
Poor Saheeli saying "each opponent." Otherwise, she would probably read "Target Opponent or Planeswalker" after the rules change like she played in Standard and would do more against UW Control.
Also, Narset is a necessary evil against the terrors that are Uro and Hydroid Krasis, though without them I would more likely agree with Seth's assessment of her.
Saheeli was printed like that intentionally, cards already included Planeswalkers when they were supposed to at that time
And Narset is a MUCH more annoying card that never stopped those cards and just annoyed random fair decks
@@cacs2201 Not true. Narset keeps fair magic a thing. It stops the overwhelming card advantage at bay. Krasis still gains life and is big, but not getting the cards is huge. When playing against Gates, Guild Summit not being able to draw 5+ cards is extremely helpful. Narset is more of a necessary evil.
@@jackpabich763 Alternatively wizards could just make less unfair cards
this deck wins way more than it realistically should
Every time Seth plays a Trespasser's curse i have a minor panic attack because he always points the targeting arrow toward himself first, before pointing it up to his opponent.
Glad it wasn't just me
Seth probably better known as saffron olive, jank or dank needs to be meme's or dreams. Love your videos!
Seeing UW control basically beat themselves is honestly pretty godsdamned satisfying. Lol
Seth making his best to not call that rude player names.
Could this deck use a bit more lands maybe?
Mechanized production is definitely the best against the odds card.
Damn that oops felt so good I thought I did it
That oops was completely justified. You had to get em back.
Hey, I'm very out of the loop, why were you complaining about the opponent playing War of the Spark cards in game 4?
Narset goes into any blue deck and works that's why it's no fun
This deck seems like it could run necromentia to remove key pieces and trigger the curse/ferocidon
It might be worth considering for the sideboard at least. Being able to Massacre Wurm away the Zombies is spicy!
Big Teferi is not from War of the Spark.
What a beautiful deck
Match 6 is the best kind of magic
I really hate when you concede before you're dead. You would have had 1 life and in Match 2 Game 3 with no guarantee they had a burn spell. Maybe they did, maybe they didn't. Play it out, don't scoop.
While I tend to agree...opponent had 3 cards in hand and a courier with 3/4 cards under it... this was one of Seth's less cringy concedes in my opinion
@@chuckmyown I mean the odds were definitely against him (hue hue hue) and it wasn't an SCG Open or a PTQ, but there was still the chance opponent had land land land and creature creature land planeswalker under the courier.
Essentially, don’t sweat it. He is much better than he used to be
@@theyonlycomeoutwhenitsquiet he just did one of his worse early scoops lat video I think...
@@cacs2201 even so. He’s better than he was.
Oops... Hahahaha nice Seth!!
That was some of the roughest piloting I've ever seen from a control player. Opponent is likely new.
UW control is *not* friendly to new players, yeah. With aggro you can just copy a random list and figure it out as you play, but not control.
@@stevenyukabacera160 Control being hard to play is such a dumb myth. Especially UW.
If you can rub two braincells together, you can play control.
If you're having a hard time getting to Massacre Wurm, maybe add some of those creatures that create Treasures?
I want to make this deck really damn badly, but I don't have the literal 42 rare and 3 mythic wildcards I need... It's beyond absurd how hard it is gonna be to make this deck
Beautiful
sweet sweet deck. spicy!
Nicol bolas felt bad every time you played it, why not replace it with kaladesh chandra?
Weird there is no Relic Robber but I guess that card is too bad even if the shell was devoted to it. Maybe in the sideboard?
Relic robber needs ways to remove blockers. This would be a terrible she'll for it.
It's just really hard to get in an attack with a 2/2 in Historic, and doubly so in a deck that tends to give the opponent tokens to block with :(
The oops was 1000000% allowed for the d bag move.
I'm not sure why you keep complaining about opponents mulliganing, when you keep really questionable hands and have the opportunity to mulligan.
I'd add Glint Nest Crane, Arcanist Owl and Ratchet Bomb, while tweaking the mana base to play the Owl.
It would be probably better as an esper deck with stuff like glass casket and Teferi anyway, playing more of a long game without necesserily going all in in doing 15 damage a turn.
Seems like a fun deck anyway.
PLEASE MAKE A MARIONETTE MASTER DECK WITH PHANARMONICON
In match 4 You should play dagger first to see how he spend a counter on that
Its Seth better known as saffronolive, and today im playing legacy storm panharmonicon
after that last game this deck should be called 'Goat Burn'
Massacre Wurm is such a cool card.
Seth, do you think a mono black version could be viable? I've been testing both ub and mobo black bit have limited wildcards so yeah...
If you have limited wildcards I'd really try crafting a t1 or t2 deck for ranked grinding so you can at least start getting some good monthly rewards and a bunch of gold, farm historic/standard events, get those packs yknow? The wildcards should start rolling in after that
@@christosx.755 thanks! I do already have a few t1 and t2 decks but like Seth am a huge fan of Panharmonicon and played dagger burn in standard back then.. just trying to relive those good old days! 😁
P.S. the mono black version has gotten me to platinum 2 even with a sub optional build... just lucky I guess 🤞😅
Thanks again!
The hard part is only having four copies of Trespasser's Curse. Maybe some tutors to find them would make it work. Apart from that Mono-Black seems like it should work fine.
32:21 I thought that was coming from my pc.
Karmic justice on that oops :D
My hot take is that this list is a lot better than it was in Standard!
25:36 War of the Spark? Seriously Seth?
That card is from Dominaria.
This deck was great but maybe the blue isn't needed?. Just a thought love your content as always.
You were about to scoop then that shark typhoon came out
damn that win against UW Control was satisfying. Oops.
Love your videos! And I can't wait till we come across each other, lol.
Woah. Troll into Wurm is gud.
@MTGGoldfish do you think yarok would be a good inclusion or is it unnecessary and would hurt the manabase too much?
Bomat Courier doesn't steal a card btw Seth. It stockpiles.
Definitely an early scoop against the control player in game 2. But my question is why historic when this is a pioneer legal deck? I know the enthusiasm for pioneer is low, but seeing how this does in a format I can't play makes it less fun to watch...
yeah, because Seth clearly anticipates you not being able to play historic or liking the format every time he builds a deck. cmon, man.
@@SkorianDnb You're missing the point. I like watching legacy content too, even though I can't afford to play it. It's just that historic isn't a real format to me, and this deck is legal in a format that is more accessible to most people, including those of us who only play paper magic. Besides, pioneer could really use the help of prolific streamers introducing new decks into the format.
Because who gives a shit about pioneer? Historic is everything pioneer should have been and more
Not gunna lie. “Temur broken shit” looks pretty fun
Match3 looked like Seth Manfields sultai energy from Pro tour ixalan......
I feel like playing green for mana dorks would be better than the blue cards
I felt that essence scat...
Why wouldn't this run the new goblin that gives people tokens
@Alex Sedore No, the one in Zendikar Rising that gives people creature tokens that hurt them