Yorion's important in this deck because it lets Seth draw more cards. A deck that's 33% bigger means that you can draw 33% more cards - that's just basic math.
let me just do some scryfall-ing real quick... ok, i found seth's next deck: Elesh Norn Yarok Panharmonicon Annointed Procession Doubling Season Kaya Parallel Lives Reflections of Littijara Necroduality Miirym lands? interaction? what are you talking about? this zombie-elemental-dragon-token tribal deck is perfect!
to be fair, making 16 copies of bladewing using irenicu's vial duplication and returning 128 terror of the peaks to the battlefield somehow seems pretty decent
Ironically, you just need to do zombie dragon tribal, or more accurately dragon tribal with maskwood nexus or arcane adaptation to name zombies. Everything else just needs to be good etb dragons
I do enjoy the Explorer content. There's definitely some room for brews and build-around cards/decks. You just need to put up with some Karn + Nykthos degeneracy here and there.
I want full panharmonicon tribal when elesh norn comes out! Isshin, elesh, EVERYTHING that you can get that doubles something else. Also Seth if you see this, I beat an oracle of the alpha deck using a deck that has 4 colossal dreadmaw and a bunch of cloning stuff lol
Great video Seth. It’s more situational but maybe consider glass casket instead of touch? It’s and artifact and interacts with panharmonicon. Any deck with urza is a deck I’m down to try.
That's a tough one. Glass Casket is good with Panharmonicon because it double triggers, but Touch is pretty good too since it can blink our creatures to reuse their ETBs, maybe there's a way to play both.
@@MTGGoldfish i think maybe cutting fblthip and maybe a land? or maybe the portable holes. it makes the 2 drop slot a little more clogged but in a deck where we're just trying to get to value town i dont think having more cheap interaction is a bad thing
I don‘t play MTG anymore but I come back to this channel once year to see if there are some new Panharmonicon shenanigans going on. I was not disappointed
A good card for those kind of deck is the teleportation circle. Witch let you bounce a creature or artifact during your end step. So free etb effects. Ive built some crazy deck with it.
I shall bathe myself in wine and gold I will tear the arteries of cosmos so it may bleed Behold the malignant salvo of my crimes Abysmal eons that have wandered by Where would I seek the truth but here Where mutiny and chaos bloom?
I love this archetype almost as much as blood autistocrats (oc do not steal) but my god that play at 19:55 by the phoenix player was pretty fun. Lightning axe discard a phoenix kill your own thing to bring back three phoenix. Wew lad. Also uhh I hope you realize during your games but the reason people don’t “just play [eldrazi] displacer” is because of how painful and difficult the land requirements are. You have to run pain lands to get the mana for both eldrazi _and_ non-eldrazi.
It's mostly at an awkward point on the curve since we already have a four-mana do nothing in Panharmonicon (and this build really wants Thought-Knot Seer too). It's good with Panharmonicon, but I wish it was three mana :)
@@MTGGoldfish Makes sense sadly. Well, I'll try it in historic brawl as soon as they release the new Elesh Norn. Thanks for the great content as always!
Match 4, when first sideboarding, im surprised you didn't consider dovins veto... certainly I would consider that a solid counter against combo shenanigans Edit: And you immediately crush him in the second match lol
It's the cost of playing Eldrazi Displacer, we need lands that make colorless, although it is possible I went a bit too deep on them and we could trim back a bit.
There is a Kinnan+Emry+Engine combo deck that did some stuff when Uro was still legal in Historic for a solid backup plan, but without it the deck kind of gets destroyed by Rakdos.
I have a volo guide to monsters commander deck. I had sakashima a thousand voices copy volo. I was then gonna cast a spell cmc 4 with a kicker of 5. If you pay the kicker cost into of the spell cost you create 5 volo. 7 total volos and I had panhormonica on field too. My friend countered... I was sad
Why so many Shefet Dunes and Ipnu Rivulets? I get the Rivulets for self-mill late with Portal, but I don't understand the Dunes other than just colorless mana sources for displacers and seers
There's also this annoying standard deck in UW that's Angel Tribal that I keep having to face that you might want to check into for a future standard episode
This REALLY shows just how bat-shit powerful mono-black is. Your playing Explorer, yet you face a Standard deck like 3 times and it still was considered powerful and difficult. Reminds me of "Eldrazi Summer" when the Standard Eldrazi deck was dominating Modern so bad they banned like 3 cards. WOTC be like "I see no problems. Buy more proxies!"
monoblack isn't good in standard nor explorer. In standard grixis, esper, monowhite, monoblue, monored, naya enchants, naya reanimator, izzet ramp, and jeskai ramp, are all much better.
What's the point of running Shefet Dunes over some basic Plains? It's not exactly a go-wide deck where the buff is relevant. Seems like an actively bad choice made only to upset Tomer.
The main idea is to have lands that make colorless mana for Eldrazi Displacer's blink ability (which needs colorless mana), and also to cast Thought-Knot Seer. In this deck Shefet Dunes is almost a dual land, making white and colorless.
Decks like that that require a lot of cklicking are almost unplayable on MTGA because unlike on Magic Online you don`t have a personal timer. It`s one of the drawbacks of a digital client that you could just shortcut in paper.
“Hole the Elf.” -Seth (aka SaffronOlive) There’s probably a lewd joke in here somewhere but I can’t find it. Edit: “If we had another hole we would hole the wolf too.” -also Seth
I H A T E pain lands. I have zero idea why anyone would ever use them. They are the worst lands ever printed that people use. I have never seen them be of use when there is literally any other option (which there always is). Basic lands are superior to those miserable lands.
Match 2 is a perfect representation of why I'll never play explorer. Blue being just too oppressive to play any deck that can't go off by turn 2 means the format is very un-fun
We need an ultimate Panharmonicon Against the Odds with Panharmonicon, Yarok, and new Elesh Norn when new set drops.
12-harmonicon. Naming magic decks is starting to look like an exercise in organic chemistry.
Make it wizards or shamans and also use harmonic prodigy or just wizards and also naban, Dean of iteration
And make it 80 cards in explorer or pioneer so you can play yorion for that extra etb value
Also with some number of rhinos
Seth, you could do a panharmonicon tribal deck!
Yorion's important in this deck because it lets Seth draw more cards. A deck that's 33% bigger means that you can draw 33% more cards - that's just basic math.
let me just do some scryfall-ing real quick...
ok, i found seth's next deck:
Elesh Norn
Yarok
Panharmonicon
Annointed Procession
Doubling Season
Kaya
Parallel Lives
Reflections of Littijara
Necroduality
Miirym
lands? interaction? what are you talking about? this zombie-elemental-dragon-token tribal deck is perfect!
to be fair, making 16 copies of bladewing using irenicu's vial duplication and returning 128 terror of the peaks to the battlefield somehow seems pretty decent
Panharmonicon tier list incoming.
Ironically, you just need to do zombie dragon tribal, or more accurately dragon tribal with maskwood nexus or arcane adaptation to name zombies. Everything else just needs to be good etb dragons
51:58 I love when Seth just acknowledges his mispronunciation of "Otawara" as "Ottawa" by saying, "send it to the Great White North".
seth losing to his own brew was perfect
I do enjoy the Explorer content. There's definitely some room for brews and build-around cards/decks. You just need to put up with some Karn + Nykthos degeneracy here and there.
I like Explorer content because I can pretend it’s Pioneer content. 😅
I was hoping on the first match he would mill out mono green with their own cavalier using displacer lol
Ohh, that would have been funny, I should have tried to do that!
@@MTGGoldfish well there are more shenanigans to be had in the future lol
Thanks for the content!
Would've worked, too. They thinned out their deck by a ton with the Nissa ultimate. Honestly, it very well could have been the correct line.
Wow Eldrazi Displacer is just the absolute VIP here. Astongishingly good against a lot of different, frequently played cards.
I want full panharmonicon tribal when elesh norn comes out!
Isshin, elesh, EVERYTHING that you can get that doubles something else.
Also Seth if you see this, I beat an oracle of the alpha deck using a deck that has 4 colossal dreadmaw and a bunch of cloning stuff lol
Sounds like a janky Commander deck idea.
That would be an awesome commander clash (teysa karlov vs issin vs yarok vs veryn)
Great video Seth. It’s more situational but maybe consider glass casket instead of touch? It’s and artifact and interacts with panharmonicon. Any deck with urza is a deck I’m down to try.
That's a tough one. Glass Casket is good with Panharmonicon because it double triggers, but Touch is pretty good too since it can blink our creatures to reuse their ETBs, maybe there's a way to play both.
@@MTGGoldfish i think maybe cutting fblthip and maybe a land? or maybe the portable holes. it makes the 2 drop slot a little more clogged but in a deck where we're just trying to get to value town i dont think having more cheap interaction is a bad thing
Love the handlock with the eldrazi’s. Love to do a similar thing with flipped fable and things like citystalker connoisseur.
I don‘t play MTG anymore but I come back to this channel once year to see if there are some new Panharmonicon shenanigans going on. I was not disappointed
Another great video brother Set. I really like Urza so this was a good one for me. Keep it up for 2023.
Thanks!
Hole the Elf !!! Sounds better than Touch the Troll lol
Seth you started my Panharmonicon addiction - glad to see it play well in 2023!
Lets "Touch the troll"
That line was hilarious
Appreciate the editing this vid
Thanks!
"No one played panharmonicon, well no one except MEEEE played panharmonicon anymore" I laugh everytime i hear it
52:00 not playing a second harmonicon ruined my day
that third match was crazy, great content as always!
I love Panharmonicon with Brilliant Restoration, the ability to come back from anything is terrific.
Seth I didn't know you were a fan of the strokes! One of my faves
HOLY. COW. This deck is absolutely nuts!!
A good card for those kind of deck is the teleportation circle. Witch let you bounce a creature or artifact during your end step. So free etb effects. Ive built some crazy deck with it.
"Smoke'em if You got'em!" Cloudblazing since Kaladesh!
I shall bathe myself in wine and gold
I will tear the arteries of cosmos so it may bleed
Behold the malignant salvo of my crimes
Abysmal eons that have wandered by
Where would I seek the truth but here
Where mutiny and chaos bloom?
I love this archetype almost as much as blood autistocrats (oc do not steal) but my god that play at 19:55 by the phoenix player was pretty fun. Lightning axe discard a phoenix kill your own thing to bring back three phoenix. Wew lad.
Also uhh I hope you realize during your games but the reason people don’t “just play [eldrazi] displacer” is because of how painful and difficult the land requirements are. You have to run pain lands to get the mana for both eldrazi _and_ non-eldrazi.
I love this so much. So much fun!
Sweet! Is teleportation cycle too clunky even for an against the odds build?
It's mostly at an awkward point on the curve since we already have a four-mana do nothing in Panharmonicon (and this build really wants Thought-Knot Seer too). It's good with Panharmonicon, but I wish it was three mana :)
@@MTGGoldfish Makes sense sadly. Well, I'll try it in historic brawl as soon as they release the new Elesh Norn. Thanks for the great content as always!
@@MTGGoldfish that's where soulherder comes in.
Match 4, when first sideboarding, im surprised you didn't consider dovins veto... certainly I would consider that a solid counter against combo shenanigans
Edit: And you immediately crush him in the second match lol
I like Seth am also a panharmonicon connesseiur. Sweet deck!
Seems like the deck should play more basics over so many deserts so you’re not taking 5+ damage from your own lands every game
He's playing that many deserts so he can cast the eldrazi with colorless mana
@@josed.9874 True, but he rarely needs more than 1 colorless mana and between field of ruin and mightstone I think just a few deserts would suffice
Mightstone weakstone don't count, as the eldrazi aren't artifacts.
It's the cost of playing Eldrazi Displacer, we need lands that make colorless, although it is possible I went a bit too deep on them and we could trim back a bit.
@@MineRoyale. It does work for activating abilities on Displacer though.
At 48:06, why target the cloudblazer over the skyclave? Wouldn't having it blink and target the bonecrusher save both?
Now I’m trying to figure out the innuendo behind “bolt the bird”. There is something there, but I can’t figure it out…
Wow, we are going to have might stone + elesh norn in std soon!
It's going to be so good!
I wonder, is there a pioneer deck that uses paradox engine or manifold key to do stuff?
Oh yeah, with Mightstone/Weakstone also? Sounds very promising...
There is a Kinnan+Emry+Engine combo deck that did some stuff when Uro was still legal in Historic for a solid backup plan, but without it the deck kind of gets destroyed by Rakdos.
Omg it was the insta-scoop to yorion for me
This reminds me of the old Emeria plus Sun Titan value deck in modern.
Touch the troll! Is hilarious though
35:15 is the best part :D :D
great content, thanks! while yorion is great and all, im not quite sold on the 80 cards, as that means less average panharmonicons in my hand.
Match 3 was crazy!
I have a volo guide to monsters commander deck. I had sakashima a thousand voices copy volo. I was then gonna cast a spell cmc 4 with a kicker of 5. If you pay the kicker cost into of the spell cost you create 5 volo. 7 total volos and I had panhormonica on field too. My friend countered... I was sad
The first match was so dirty lmao
Why so many Shefet Dunes and Ipnu Rivulets? I get the Rivulets for self-mill late with Portal, but I don't understand the Dunes other than just colorless mana sources for displacers and seers
Damn Lorion decks are hard to watch as well not just to play against. I was really cheering all the opponents.
11:21 What do you mean? “Plow your mom” is a play you see in Legacy all the time.
Pamharmonicon? Count me in!
I'm really surprised to not see Aether Channeler in this list
I thought that the deck would have the other Urza to make copies of Panharmonicon
1:07:30 "Video Games" 😁
Babe, wake up! New panharmonicon just dropped!
Panharmonicon decks are so awesome
Seth, did you say the wron name of the episode, because you kept skipping the AGGGGAAINST THE ODDS TIME
Ha, I was hoping no one would notice :)
I don't get why you would play courser of kruphix over augur of autumn
Surprised you didnt add the artifact reanimator sorcery
There's also this annoying standard deck in UW that's Angel Tribal that I keep having to face that you might want to check into for a future standard episode
I’m a simple man- I see Panharmonicon, I click 😩😩
Why do you never see an arena player streaming explorer while drunk?
Because all explorer players hate spirits!
How do you not get mana screwed with this deck?
I tried it out and I never have more than two alands in my opener and abrely draw any afterwards :(
This REALLY shows just how bat-shit powerful mono-black is. Your playing Explorer, yet you face a Standard deck like 3 times and it still was considered powerful and difficult. Reminds me of "Eldrazi Summer" when the Standard Eldrazi deck was dominating Modern so bad they banned like 3 cards. WOTC be like "I see no problems. Buy more proxies!"
monoblack isn't good in standard nor explorer. In standard grixis, esper, monowhite, monoblue, monored, naya enchants, naya reanimator, izzet ramp, and jeskai ramp, are all much better.
ACTUALLY it was Eldrazi Winter
@@zirilan3398 Sorry. I had purged that time from my neurons. Thanks for the correction. The night terrors can start again.
@@myblujl7503 remember, when Painter Servant was the best Sideboardtech
Hey this deck looks fun, just need 50 rare wildcards and I can build it for myself :))
Is meathook not rebalanced in explorer?
Can you do a build around precursor golem?
I actually put Precursor Golem on this weeks poll, but it's not winning. I think we'll get to it at some point though.
dope vid Seth! Think combat thresher in some number would be good for this deck?
Nah, dog is cheaper
Ohh, I always forget about that card. It does seem good.
This is beyond sweet
Elf in the hole!
this is the best day of my life
MR. 305!
Hey guys, have any one of you came up with a Hourglass Coven deck? I love that card but I can not make it work
Have you tried putting it into a black or sultai Panharmonicon-shell?
@@zirilan3398 I'm trying blink strategies. And I'd like to fir it into alchemy not historic
So to make a commander style of this deck, Yorion as commander? Yarok is in the wrong colours, otherwise it would be best.
Also works really well with blink Commanders like Brago.
1hp comeback: the episode
i love seth so much
Touch the troll. Oh yeah, that’s what we like to do
Could this deck work in Bo1?
Take a shot every time he says Panharmonicon!
8 whack, 8 rack, what about 8-monica?
“come back from 1 life to win” tribal?
What's the point of running Shefet Dunes over some basic Plains? It's not exactly a go-wide deck where the buff is relevant. Seems like an actively bad choice made only to upset Tomer.
Dunes can add colorless mana for the displacer and thought-knot that a plains couldn't
The main idea is to have lands that make colorless mana for Eldrazi Displacer's blink ability (which needs colorless mana), and also to cast Thought-Knot Seer. In this deck Shefet Dunes is almost a dual land, making white and colorless.
I build the gwenna acererak deck on arena and the timer stopt before i could win
you have to build it differently. as long as you're using kinnan or bontu's monument and NOT the relic you'll be fine
Decks like that that require a lot of cklicking are almost unplayable on MTGA because unlike on Magic Online you don`t have a personal timer. It`s one of the drawbacks of a digital client that you could just shortcut in paper.
Lmfao this absolute pile, this is the most Seth a deck could get 😂
That's just nasty
“Hole the Elf.” -Seth (aka SaffronOlive)
There’s probably a lewd joke in here somewhere but I can’t find it.
Edit: “If we had another hole we would hole the wolf too.” -also Seth
oh my god Seth and panharmonicon ahahaha
In the first game he should did the portal instead.
Hole the elf and touch the troll...
Hole the elf and touch the troll🥵
Well, definitely, if you play Bo1... don't use this deck. I've tested it and it basically gets completely wrecked by aggro.
I H A T E pain lands. I have zero idea why anyone would ever use them. They are the worst lands ever printed that people use. I have never seen them be of use when there is literally any other option (which there always is). Basic lands are superior to those miserable lands.
I usually try to avoid them outside of aggro decks, but when you need 30+ lands because of Yorion they often make the cut by default.
Gay harmonica my beloved
Hole 'em out
First gain \o/
Love the idea for the deck but how in god’s name is this a budget deck 😂
Oh, this deck isn't budget, it's actually super expensive.
Seth, you will take literally any excuse to play panharmonicon
Arena zzzzz
just copie the panharmanicon
I'd watch so much more of his content if he didn't do the voice
Meow
Match 2 is a perfect representation of why I'll never play explorer. Blue being just too oppressive to play any deck that can't go off by turn 2 means the format is very un-fun
Wouldn't jhoira be a good card, and play izzet panharmonicon