Breaking Down How Magnificent Howl Works and Detailing the PVE and PVP God Rolls For Luna's Howl

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  • Опубліковано 28 кві 2024
  • Showcasing exactly the how reworked Magnificent Howl Weapon Works and breaking down the rolls to chase on Luna's Howl
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  • @halbreadge
    @halbreadge 18 днів тому +107

    Hey tizzle! I used to edit for aztecross a little while ago, and light level would in fact affect our damage output when testing damage at carl. What’s most likely happening is luna’s is experiencing a damage decrease due to being locked at 1600; but who knows, maybe the brave version will still have a different damage model when it drops. Great video as always! :)

    • @itztizzle
      @itztizzle  18 днів тому +26

      Thanks for the input! Hopefully it’s a light level thing and the new version hits as hard as all other 140s!

    • @sirloin7633
      @sirloin7633 18 днів тому +4

      Why do people make things up like that? "I used to edit for aztecross fallout datto PewDiePie and like all the guys" trust me....

    • @itman9000
      @itman9000 18 днів тому +29

      @@sirloin7633see how you’re the only one to take issue? This is a weird and envious looking question

    • @halbreadge
      @halbreadge 18 днів тому

      @@sirloin7633 go to his microtransaction video and look at the credited editors. have a good day man

    • @sonnyankau9239
      @sonnyankau9239 18 днів тому +8

      @@sirloin7633 you need therapy. you're way too worked up over legit nothing. i hope your life improves!

  • @Kizzster
    @Kizzster 18 днів тому +23

    Surely the Brave one will be better than the old one .Can't wait to use a Heal Clip + Incandesent roll!

  • @GloverGaming3
    @GloverGaming3 18 днів тому +25

    "...because it's sunset..."
    Not for long 😜

  • @Adam-tu1qx
    @Adam-tu1qx 18 днів тому +24

    Heal clip & magnificent howl is what im looking for in pvp. 2 tap & heal after reload

    • @jonnysilia5740
      @jonnysilia5740 18 днів тому +1

      I'm gonna try a slideshot + howl, just curious if slideshot will allow me to skip directly reloading to get the perk. edit: probably should of watched the whole video lol.

    • @VAVORiAL
      @VAVORiAL 18 днів тому

      Heal Clip over Slideshot LOL

    • @randomizeskillz5643
      @randomizeskillz5643 18 днів тому

      ​@@jonnysilia5740you are right, keep it secret😊

    • @heatdk8535
      @heatdk8535 18 днів тому

      @@VAVORiALyeah, slideshot for sure in that columm, specially the extra range and stability for a 140 gonna be good, second columm precision instrument also Think could be pretty good on it

    • @IdontKnow-nm8bz
      @IdontKnow-nm8bz 18 днів тому +3

      @@VAVORiAL mag howl with ricoshet and small bore means your already at 90 range, the extra meter of engagement isnt worth the pain in the ass to proc sliding over healing after kill, sure you MIGHT be able to duel lowend 120s but your sacrificing amount of time you can stay in engagement

  • @pasttense69
    @pasttense69 18 днів тому +5

    something interesting that lucky pants hunters might want to try out would be a slideshot magnificent howl roll so you can stack up to max. obviously it’s not super practical, but could be interesting

  • @lupuskitsu248
    @lupuskitsu248 18 днів тому +2

    Something to note is with appended/extended mag and backup mag you'll get 14 bullets, which means slideshot should load 3 at once instead of 2, due to it rounding up.

  • @zferolie
    @zferolie 18 днів тому +1

    I'm gonna go for it but most likely for a heal clip roll for utility. But I'm most likely going to stick with zhalous for most other things, which you got me to really use and just go farm red boarders for. Tomorow I'll finally get the last I need to craft this bad boy, and its all thanks to you pushing it so hard. Still torn on demo vs one for all to pair with explosive payload though...

  • @Rocco-mf7kq
    @Rocco-mf7kq 18 днів тому +3

    very nice vid as always man 🫡 curious to see if brave luna’s does normal 140 damage tomorrow

    • @manuelito1233
      @manuelito1233 18 днів тому

      I've got some heliocentrics with Heal Clip, i love every version of it, heal clip feels so good to use.

  • @DudditsII
    @DudditsII 18 днів тому

    Excellent video, thank you

  • @MXG2809
    @MXG2809 18 днів тому +1

    Precision instrument is super interesting for trials or super sweaty games in general cause in combination with slideshot it gives luna the deepest 3tap range of all 140 HCs of over 37m (similar to old rangefinder max range pali). But yeah for general play like comp and 6v6 i agree on magnificient howl to be a better choice. I will definitly grind for both rolls and will see whats the enhanced mag howl will be in final shape and then decide what to use on lang term. Maybe i will even go back to not forgotten and ignore the enhanced perks if i like zen moment more than slideshot.

  • @sebasstehfish5634
    @sebasstehfish5634 18 днів тому +3

    I think the best PvP perks will be slideshot + precision instrument. Very consistent dueling and the precision instrument gives more effective range. I think with it being a 140 precision and also having nearly the same rolls as Rose but better, this thing will be a MENACE. Not to mention it being able to get enhanced perks in Final Shape.

    • @heatdk8535
      @heatdk8535 18 днів тому

      Exactly + the original traits on it.
      Looking forward to see what the gonna do with not forgotten.

    • @sebasstehfish5634
      @sebasstehfish5634 18 днів тому

      @@heatdk8535 I hope we get more precision 140s in the future! Wonder if Not Forgotten will ever come back (aside from the original being unsunset)

    • @heatdk8535
      @heatdk8535 18 днів тому

      @@sebasstehfish5634 agreed, always been a primary hand cannon user. Atm i love the precision instrument on my igneous. A lot of old sunsetted weapons return with new perks and traits. And with the lunas back with the only gun to have magnificent howl, beside from NF. I’ll Think there is a good possibility that NF with also return with new perks. Maybe in a future comp reward quest . I love that gun 🔥

    • @sebasstehfish5634
      @sebasstehfish5634 18 днів тому

      @@heatdk8535 That would be cool. Still need to farm for the new igneous rolls, I have one from a few seasons ago XD

  • @oddkikisdragon1833
    @oddkikisdragon1833 18 днів тому +1

    Hey tizzle, holster mods don’t remove precision stacks, so u can try to reload a few rounds with that

  • @j8000
    @j8000 18 днів тому +3

    When you were in the rabbit hole, why didn't you test another 1600 adaptive

  • @sea4524
    @sea4524 18 днів тому

    Also, as a person who legit only uses not forgotten in pvp even though its sunset, you can also use things like t-steps, holster mods, and other auto loading functioning style things to increase the mag without reloading. This makes it MUCH easier to get more kills per mag so maybe just throw on one if you have the space.

  • @ShadowSlayr22
    @ShadowSlayr22 18 днів тому +1

    Here’s what I got after testing todays brave version. Looks like there is a slight difference due to light level. At 1800, no radiant no surge, here’s what I got.
    Minors base precision: 12,780
    Minors base body: 8,199
    Minors mag precision: 19,169
    Minors mag body: 12,297
    Majors base precision: 5,840
    Major base body: 3,746
    Major mag precision: 8,759
    Major mag body: 5,619

  • @willdill7253
    @willdill7253 18 днів тому +1

    Underrated

  • @csnation
    @csnation 18 днів тому +3

    Luna's howl is the only non-raid/non-trials HC that can roll heal clip which is currently super meta on things like Parabellum, Heliocentric and Adhortative. And it can roll incandescent too.
    Of course this will fall off a bit once Season of Solar/Wish ends but it will still be a good pick if you rely on your energy primary to heal and generate firesprites with incandescent.
    But in general I am a little annoyed that Luna's Howl only has damage options on the 4th column. Which is a far cry compared to Midnight coup but then again, I expect it to be the PVP weapon of choice so I can see why. Because slideshot is just too damn good. IMO if you only want one roll for both PVP and regular PVE, then slide shot and magnificent howl is great. And slideshot doesn't require kills at all to sustain Luna's howl unlike subsistence.

    • @IdontKnow-nm8bz
      @IdontKnow-nm8bz 18 днів тому

      damage perks for HC in 3rd column are especially rare, explosive payload doubly so, only 4 weapons can get it, dont see why your annoyed

    • @csnation
      @csnation 18 днів тому

      @@IdontKnow-nm8bz Because Brave weapons are supposed to be mega strong and rival even raid legendaries.
      In some cases even stronger like Discord + Redirection Brave Succession. I mean able to use your sniper rifle freely to shoot red bars in GM for free? HELL yeah I take it.
      And it should be the case for them, because Braves cannot be crafted and you are at the mercy of RNG unlike raid exotics.
      Midnight Coup is easily equal to Fate Bringer barring Time lost which can use adept mods but Midnight can get enhanced perks later so it balances out a bit.
      Luna's Howl should do the same so it can rival Zaouli's Bane which is typically crafted with EP + Incan/firefly/OFA etc
      Suddenly holding back Luna back from being a true god roll is now weird. But I guess Slide shot compensates as it will still remain a PVP monster and just good in PVE, if you don't mind sliding a bit to upkeep Magnificent Howl.

  • @aelfgernon7729
    @aelfgernon7729 18 днів тому

    You could test to see if it's a light level thing by getting another 1600 weapon from vault or collections and test it against a current weapon of that archetype.

  • @dougcarey2233
    @dougcarey2233 18 днів тому

    PSA, if you can get/have a swashbuckler Annual Skate, it can also 2-tap with radiant at any resilience.
    A Trust with Tricorn and radiant can also 2-tap at any resilience.
    Both are solar, so hanging on to the radiant buff is trivial.
    Trust is super difficult to get the 2-tap going, but Annual Skate is not.
    Ace can kinda do the same, but you need a firefly collateral to keep the radiant buff extended.

    • @ShadowSlayr22
      @ShadowSlayr22 18 днів тому

      Proccing radiant + melee kill + getting the follow up kill in 4.5 seconds vs 2 precision kills and infinite time.
      ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ seems like a no brainer pick for me

  • @xTheLostLegendx
    @xTheLostLegendx 18 днів тому

    You gotta test this out with lucky pants. With either precision instrument or Mag howl

  • @jamessnedeker
    @jamessnedeker 18 днів тому +1

    Only suggestion I have for your videos is the way you are ending sentences. I am not sure if it's just how you talk or not, but when you finish a line, it's clear you are reading a script. I would say, try to string your sentences together a little bit more or make it so you aren't inflecting on the end of the sentence. Other than that, great vid as always.

  • @sebastian_blair6685
    @sebastian_blair6685 18 днів тому

    Precision insteemeant and heal clip could be nice for champs

  • @Barleh
    @Barleh 18 днів тому +1

    I appreciate the absence of clickbait

  • @GameHunterDeathhunter
    @GameHunterDeathhunter 18 днів тому

    Wish they turn Not Forgotten into an ornament for luna

  • @kennethmartinez9300
    @kennethmartinez9300 10 днів тому

    I just got a full range one with slideshow and opening shot. 100+ range

  • @basedlordprime
    @basedlordprime 18 днів тому

    I have never found a reason to use anything other than flared in pve. On most weapons tac or app mag are going to give you 1-2 bullets which isn't worth it on a primary weapon when you're still inevitably going to have to reload.

  • @Joe-ro2bw
    @Joe-ro2bw 18 днів тому

    Dose it not howl anymore?

  • @pajkinuza
    @pajkinuza 18 днів тому

    Wish to have a friend like SteamOp..

  • @Fr0stbite1801
    @Fr0stbite1801 18 днів тому

    Honestly I kinda feel that this is how hawkmoon should've been. Not that it's bad per se but good lord that thing takes a really skilled hand to use. This allows for more leeway I think

  • @shallot4991
    @shallot4991 18 днів тому +2

    So they made it a skill gap weapon from pvp into a skill gap weapon for pve, they should have kept it in its post nerf state for pvp

    • @theveryamericaneagle3657
      @theveryamericaneagle3657 18 днів тому +2

      Exactly. The roll to go for imo for pvp is encore precision hit intrusment for the 2 head one body. Also maybe slide shot mag howl.

    • @controlleronpceasywin2978
      @controlleronpceasywin2978 18 днів тому +2

      well lunas will be the second best legendary hc in the game for pve, and one of the best for pvp

  • @m4j0r3x
    @m4j0r3x 18 днів тому

    i have like 500 trophies waiting to open luna

  • @user-dh1eb1ce9r
    @user-dh1eb1ce9r 18 днів тому

    Not only this thing, actually bungie buffed "Ace of spades"

  • @hungrybiscuit7419
    @hungrybiscuit7419 18 днів тому +2

    I wonder how its going to pair with lucky pants

    • @psychosandman
      @psychosandman 18 днів тому +5

      Not as good as wardens law

    • @TeamTechSkaters
      @TeamTechSkaters 18 днів тому +1

      ​@@psychosandmanwith a full clip of mag howl will be interesting though

    • @zebbernholtz5550
      @zebbernholtz5550 18 днів тому +3

      @@psychosandman it’s also in a better slot, allowing for a use of witherhoard, Izi, or another great DPS option in the primary slot. It would make procing bns on an apex easier. You could pop witherhoard, bang out some Lunas shots, fire bns apex, back to lunas, etc. better DPS this way, especially if you nighthawk or Star eater swap

    • @psychosandman
      @psychosandman 18 днів тому +1

      @zebbernholtz5550 DoT is overall better with dragons breath. Ammo economy is great for that launcher, especially when swapping to solar reserves.

    • @zebbernholtz5550
      @zebbernholtz5550 18 днів тому +1

      @@psychosandman that’s also true, plus lunas and DB have matching surges

  • @user-th4ir7qm3q
    @user-th4ir7qm3q 18 днів тому +1

    hmm going for subsistance and incandescent cause we arnt always going to have kindle and flint, want that roll for solar

  • @cangooz2240
    @cangooz2240 18 днів тому

    Pls be good with Luck pants ,iam tired with warden law

  • @imnothing27
    @imnothing27 18 днів тому

    Didn't they say the perk was Tuned

  • @iwaskillcam1434
    @iwaskillcam1434 18 днів тому +1

    I’m really curious to see what Bungie is going to do with Not Forgotten when they bring it back just because the new Lunas can have more range & handling then the NF. For Lunas I want Full bore, ricochet rounds, Encore, & magnificent howl with a range masterwork. Encore shoots the range all the way up to 91 & stability to 89

  • @boodits
    @boodits 18 днів тому

    You seemed closer the second time (in PvP) which could account for the higher damage numbers

  • @xxxxFORSETIxxxx
    @xxxxFORSETIxxxx 17 днів тому

    👍😎👍

  • @jddunebuggy
    @jddunebuggy 18 днів тому

    So it's essentially a better honkmoan?

    • @jcpenny6310
      @jcpenny6310 18 днів тому +1

      kind of yea. We'll need to see how it interacts with slideshot though

    • @KingKobra.
      @KingKobra. 18 днів тому +1

      Worse Hawkmoon. Hawkmoon doesn't need any kill only hits which is way better as a dmg perk.

    • @luckmyst3r986
      @luckmyst3r986 18 днів тому

      Not really.
      Hawkmoon id argue is way better because you dont need kills and its a way bigger damage boost.

    • @shallot4991
      @shallot4991 18 днів тому

      Hawkmoon doesn’t require a reload before making use of its bonus damage, I personally don’t like this rework for the perk

    • @sirloin7633
      @sirloin7633 18 днів тому

      Legendary vs. Exotic

  • @MrNooB-kb9gb
    @MrNooB-kb9gb 18 днів тому

    You have to hit crits (me a strong brain less titan not for me 😅)

  • @murilocorrea6317
    @murilocorrea6317 18 днів тому

    I thought it was fatebringer😢

  • @TheLastWord195
    @TheLastWord195 18 днів тому

    🔫

  • @IBaknam
    @IBaknam 18 днів тому +1

    so they basically did mag howl the same way they did MoA both perk useless since there are better options

  • @CuDerRaGer
    @CuDerRaGer 18 днів тому +1

    this gun is so mid now. should have just kept the perk the same and made it have a 10 second cool down.

  • @MrPiffy
    @MrPiffy 18 днів тому

    With them bringing not forgotten back this gun will be useless in pvp

  • @raijinmeister
    @raijinmeister 18 днів тому

    Oh boy, it's all we need, more op auto-aiming pocket snipers for the 0-skill noobs playing pvp in this game.

    • @theef143
      @theef143 18 днів тому

      If they're 0 skill shouldn't be a problem for a gamer like you......🙄

    • @raijinmeister
      @raijinmeister 17 днів тому

      @@theef143 if Destiny was a better game of course not. But is garbage and the PVP is beyond terrible.

    • @raijinmeister
      @raijinmeister 17 днів тому

      @@theef143 I bet you only use HC, huntard.

  • @riothegod1831
    @riothegod1831 18 днів тому +1

    Why you comparing a 140 to a 120 ofc 120 does more damage.

  • @tomaszszupryczynski5453
    @tomaszszupryczynski5453 18 днів тому

    why you make video how something works about old weapon. many of perks of returning weapons are not same anymore. like reservoir burst its not voltshot but more like dragonfly.
    knowing bungo like recently nerfed demolitionist and all else it will be nerfed to ground so those imbeciles will next season write "oh this exotic needs some love so we buff that by 30% and still is shit" like bait and switch why go for 10s 30% where whirlwind has same and i dont need to to swap weapons. next one patch perk works, other patch it doesnt. same like for few months exotic weapons dont do 30% more to redbars, or recently shotguns. this is bungo spaghetti glue and tape code. or like right now they fucked up onslaught by puting galvanized so tanky enemies and shank sniper not 1 but now 3 yellow bars. same as hammerhead reload is limited did you noticed flared mag is +14 not +15 reload as on all weapons

    • @controlleronpceasywin2978
      @controlleronpceasywin2978 18 днів тому

      smartest d2 player don't know how to balance guns

    • @tomaszszupryczynski5453
      @tomaszszupryczynski5453 18 днів тому

      @@controlleronpceasywin2978 destiny 2 is 99% IQ room temperature, they cant read, they cant listen, they are like women. they all know better and thats why they fail