🛑Stop farming Luna's Howl ! | Full Review on MnK
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"I have two taps enabled right now." *bang bang* WE RAN OUT OF MEDALS "Oh." Is just perfect comedic timing.
TRUST ME you want the 5 out of 5 God Roll Luna that I have (Better then Not Forgotten) Full Bore...Ricochet Rounds...Range MW...Slideshot (+20 Range & Stability)...Opening Shot (+25 Range & 20 Aim Assistant) for 100 RANGE & 99 Aim Assistance (71 Base Range like Not Forgotten). This roll is better than any ROSE roll.
This is a PC specific visual thing. If you turn your FOV down to what console is using the gun never jumps and blocks the reticle.
They’ve talked about fixing this in the past but never have.
What FOV is that, 85?
@@antiimperialista5764 lower, 65
im on pc and have always been using 85. i can get away with using sidearms, tlw and crimson
@@8ShekelsDeep wait... is that the reason why sidearms kick harder than fucking snipers? No wonder I didnt feel the difference between no iron reach/iron reach
i noticed lightweight sidearms have the same issue on mnk
Am genuinely farming for healclip incandescant ...around 50 rolls with no luck so far ...and tried with 40 rolls of sumonner with no luck too
Edit : reason why I want this so bad is as follows , when final shape drops , prismatic hunters will lose that ability to go invis or use solar healing grenade or devour , having a heal clip weapon fixes the issue , but guess what ? Bungie stated that on prismatic hunters killing any ennemy affected by a debuff aka volatile jolt or scortch will make you invisible , so visualize having a prismatic hunter that goes fully invis after each kill allowing him to reload at ease to go full health
Edit 2 : GUYS I GOT IT !!!! AFTER 126 ROLLS I GOT IT OMG FINALLLLLYYYYY IT EVEN HAS 80 FREAKING RELOAD SPEED LETS GO
just got mine yesterday finally i was 70~ drops deep
@@sirfoxingtin7282 happy to read this tbh , ...gives me strength to keep farming
I got a shiny with Heal Clip/Incandescent + Slideshot/Magnificent Howl. Super happy to have a PvE/PvP roll in one weapon.
I got it as my 3rd roll, still no slideshot though. Not even one.
Same here man. Haven’t gotten it once
I knew Not Forgotten felt better but I was wrong about why apparently. I thought it had to do with the range stat and the better aim assist cone that came with it, but it turns out it was the recoil the whole time. The more you know
The 100 recoil or the no reticle bounce from zen moment
I got my shiny Luna's Howl with Heal clip and Incandescent for my Warlock and it does wonders both in Onslaught and even Pantheon. It really adds something I didn't know I was missing tbh.
As for PvP, ofc nothing can beat Austringer, it just feels right on MnK to me.
Counterpoint: 50 Range Hand Cannons feel like trash. “Good enough” isn’t good enough for me. (But I suppose Not Forgotten would be the way to go then)
This anything below 65 range is shard unless it's insanely overstat (Hawkmoon and some Rose roles. ).
Using a 3/5 ( only range components and random perks ) with 71 range compared to base luna you get gifted by shaxx which has two of its best perks but 53 range is night and day.
So far i only really have a 66 range slide,os roll but hell even the neomuna HC outclasses it in my hands.
@@fotis3v480I was playtesting some older Hand Cannons I needed to PvP test and man, every single lane I was being outranged. It was painful!
Yup it's 70 or bust, just enough to keep up with pulses and outrange autos.
30m everything eats you.@@joshuasmith6909
@@fotis3v480 My 85 range Exalted Truth feels 10 times better and it doesn't even have any consistency perks. And it's in the same slot.
I was only hoping for them to fix that recoil animation since they made it a 140, unfortunately they didn't so I just gave up 😅
I’m curious to see how the health changes impacted Crimson. Is the TTK the same? Does it require more or less precision hits to achieve optimal TTK? Has the range/falloff TTK been impacted?
Heal clip precision intsrument is lovely
I’m on mnk and was doing pretty well with the curated roll. Farmed up some new rolls but have not tried them yet. I have the original not forgotten and Luna in the vault waiting for the power level update
Could anyone elaborate on the optative perfect cannon thing they brought up. Cuz I've been wanting to try both hipfire/tricorn and hipfire/offhand with radiant+lucky pants and see which is better for 3 taps. and if they've got thoughts on it I'd love to know.
Thanks for the video glhf
FYI You can craft the Adhoration solar pulse rifle with heal clip/incan if youre having troulbe getting the rng on luna's. Held me over for the two weeks it took to get the luna roll
20:30 I love the fact that the drop pod was the only one that could end his kill streak.
dude plays for a living so id hope so
I've been using NF ever since Into the Light started and it just feels so good to use even without any exotics. It's nice because unintentionally Bungie retroactively validated my effort in getting Not Forgotten back when you actually could. My achievement mattered, just not in how the intended it to
One thing I am wanting to test with Lunas and Precision Instrument (When i eventually get one) is how it performs when shooting a frozen target with Whisper of Rending. Will it have the ability to 3 tap? If so, itll be great on my Shadebinder build!
Even if it could 3 tap I still feel like I prefer eyasluna with headstone, especially with the artifact mod that makes the crystal explode into shards
Wait so killclip is just invisible?
I absolutely stand by precision instrument. Yeah, it's only a tiny amount of extra range but I often find myself stacking it up againts several laners and getting some slightly farther and more forgiving kills in the chaos. Though I am playing on console so I avoid your problems with the gun at base
I love precision instrument too and it actually pairs pretty well with encore too. Snag a kill in a lane and the next guy will be a much easier gunfight
It tiny we mean tiny... you feeling the artifact mod.. it gives you .1 meter to .2/3 meters
Slideshot opening shot with 66 range( hammerforged high cal ) is the best i have rn but the more i use it the more i feel like i might aswell use Epochal to abuse triple unflinching on my solar builds.
Precision I was decent with 71 range but discord ain't cutting it and ny maghowl is fun for 6s but without slideshot it just feels 'wrong'.
Shinny slide shot and magnificent howl right? That’s what I’m using.
I think the drop amounts for the coins in onslaught is unbelievable, either let us reset shaxx or increase coin drops across all activities
Exactly!!!!! Getting one coin from rumble an crucible is terrible!
Trials engram farming feels less like a chore than Onslaught does. Hell, rolling legacy trials gear has been more fruitful than Onslaught
I have a Small Bore, Ricochet rounds, Slide shot, opening shot, Handling MW roll on my Luna and it's so good
how do you have airborne effectiveness? i thought thats a warlock perk
I got a heal clip incand for pve but I'm looking for the mythical golden subsistence incand roll
glad to know this is why i keep missing the last shot
My boy Sammy cammy trolling so hard RN
Got my god roll - Fluted, Rico, slideshot, opening shot, range mw. Still farming for more bc I just love this model (I play on controller (Xbox))
Do you think once precision instrument is enhanceable it will be worth?
It think it will be.
No it barely does anything .1 meter to .3 meter of rang needs only head shots.. is so underwelm
So you’re saying there a difference in controller vs MnK? Like gun input vs sliding one direction and shooting the other!? Gasp 😱
I'm so glad you mentioned 1, that luna in general feels like a coin flip as to if you hit someone or not (mnk), and 2, zen moment on the old roles is absolute night and day better.
Heal/incandescent for pve however is tasty on any device.
Now, if you want a great 180 that can 3 tap and feels amazing on mnk, look no further than frontiers cry with kill clip.
Frontiers with adagio doesn't require a reload an give you more range along with damage.
I still have my max range service revolver with outlaw killclip
@@ArmaniInfinity I still have my max range service revolver with range finder kill clip.. one of my fav guns
The roll I want is Heal Clip and Desperate Measures. I get you a hunter main might not want it, but as a pyrogale titan, getting a kill with consecration, and then being able to guarantee 3 piece with a guaranteed 2 tap is very valuable for me
Just farmed a slideshot mag howl/precision instrument so I can go around 2 tapping everyone before they fix the glitch
Just solo’s warlords using a heal clip incandescent Luna’s. Very worth is, but I’m curious how it will hold up without the artifact perks.
I deleted an Edge Transit with Deconstruct+Stickys(gives one mun. back after 2 shoots!!!) in the beginning from onslought - when i discovered my bad decison i tried to farm it out again for day s without luck ...by the way Blast F. with zen moment + rapid - feels soooooooooo good on the sticks - outerworldy freakin awsome !!! Elsie s with kill clip+under over + arrowhead break is freakin melting (got a shiny) - seems like Bungie opend the flood gates for good drops... Bungie we need the extra 100 vault spaces now !!! I enjoy Black Lagoon at the moment...
I got a max range moving target midnight coup 2 weeks ago and stopped spending tokens after that. I had about 600 tokens the day luna howl came out. Got a fluted/ flared or ext/ slide opening after using about 450. Stopped farming again. Now I am playing path of exlle while i wait.
That onslaught part was a mood 😂 quite a few ppl wanted rng drops again instead of crafting but now that we have it for the avg player who doesn’t get lucky id rather just have it guaranteed after some time played then to quite literally never be able to try the roll I’m interested in, the game has been going on for 10 years now we don’t need like the forsaken spare rations level of farming again lol
Yeah right! It's so weird when people want crazy rng when I can just actually get what I want after a few hours with crafting.
Agreed, especially when the rng cant be controlled like they did with Season of the Hunt farming. They couldve implemented something akin to that to make the TIME LIMITED grinding more bearable.
@pataponnabil well the weapons aren't time limited. It is the shiny variants that are. But yeah having an season of opulence level of focusing woukd be cool cause than yiu could always focus master work an barrel at least.
People are ADDICTED to FOMO/gambling. It’s a dopamine hit like anything else. Shit is so well researched and used in all aspects of life by companies from casinos to what ever else.
On a non-shiny it’s a 2% chance to get both perks you want. Hearing people talking about farming for “the god roll” including barrels, mag, MW… it’s literally something like .27% chance of getting what you want.
I don’t think people even realize how low the chances really are. They just see other people have it… they like that dopamine… they say crafting is terrible.
I get it… in general… but holy shit… unless you play this game for a living most people don’t even have time to get all of the red boarders for guaranteed god rolls… but they say they want random drops that basically give you no chance of getting what you want.
When they want rng farm and get it they want crafting. When they want more crafting and get it they want rng farm. One of many moments where where can’t make up there goddamn mind.
to get around the recoil/blocking problem i'll flick my mouse away from the target after every shot then bring it back right as im about to take another.
I swear I the only person who doesn't get this problem.. lol.. love pvp in destiny all I play and never once on mnk I was like bro I can't see him XD
@@funnystranger3380 do you play with a low fov? you see best ~85, im on 100 fov so it's rough
is there a hand cannon/other weapon u recommend most for mnk players?
Pretty much everyone recommends Rose
Why extended mag when the new lunas reaches 60 ae with Icarus grip? As well the we're getting some helmet mods with final shape. I figure cammy wants as high of an ae stat as possible but would most people care past 60 ae?
EM is a throw imo
Because he slow.. and thinks a 50 rang hc will be good vs none .8 kd players
I’m looking for a 10/10 Heal Clip + Incandescent for PVE and Slideshot + Mag Howl for PVP
I see the point about opening shot, but thats only good for one bullet, precision instrument is every bullet after the first. I play MnK, I have the most 5/5 you can get wtih slideshot, precision, this thing is the best handcannon I've used since the initial swap of 110s to 120s. The recoil was jarring at first, but after almost 2000 kills I don't even notice the gun model anymore.
Yep exactly. He’s just jealous he can’t get the god roll and is making a shitty psa.
I mean… I have an encore/PI god roll and as long as encore is procced with a few stacks it’s almost like having slideshot and I still think the gun sucks lol
Even took it into patrol to see if having max stacks of encore (+20 range +32 stability -5% accuracy cone size) would simulate having slideshot for me and change my mind about Lunas and well.. it just doesn’t.
So I have an Encore/PI god roll and that’s good enough for a gun that I bottom frag with.
@@neverzackdown that perk gives .1 to .2/3 meters of rang... if all 3 head shots...
I CAN SEE...I CAN FIGHT!! not the fairly oddparents reference 😭
Literally have his perfect roll 😩
Personally, I earned my luna’s howl back then and barely had time to fully enjoy it. Glad they are unsunstetting the weapons. The new drops aren’t so bad and don’t mind playing around with different rolls as they are all pretty fun to play versus others. Not planning to dismantle them or stop farming any of these weapons as I’m having fun testing all the rolls I get my hands on. Hope everyone gets a good roll they enjoy the most.
Somehow there's only one non-sunset 180 with zen moment (optatitive), which is super disappointing
i've genuinely been enjoying luna's with precious scars. it's definitely not very potent but i still find it unique enough to be fun.
Heal clip pairs good with precious scars.
Not potent???? My brother in christ, precious scars is literally the PvE Titan meta right now, and having heal clip doubles down on that power
@brycejones9021 it's not the titan meta. Titan meta is still strand banner Yada Yada. Precious Is good based on heal clip stacking with it without heal clip Precious is meh an thats the truth.
@@theveryamericaneagle3657 you do realize you can stack banner of war with precious scars right. BOW/Into the Fray strand titan with precious scars and any strand gun is literally the pinnacle of PvE meta right now. You provide infinite BOW, woven mail, and restoration to yourself and allies. Saying it's "meh" makes you look like you haven't played the game in a year.
@@IzanamisBurden it’s good but not at the top stop bro
Heal clip + mag howl is amazing together.
when i heard about the rewark i was hyped "I'd have ace in the energy slot" but the gun (sadly) is unusable
animated outro scribe??!!?! youre getting better every day cammy
Why is anyone farming when you can craft a perfect Austringer, or use Ace...or Fate Bringer...or Hawk...or Eyesluna....or...
Ah yes, I love my kinetic Austringer with Heal Clip + Incandescent
Because the only worthwhile hcs on the energy slot are
Exalted,Pali (out of rotation adept versions )
Nation of beasts which is decent but needs to be crafted.
Crisis inverted which is pretty mediocre but gets good stats overall and the neomuna hc which tbh is a hidden gem but the sight is a little obstructive.
So yeh we need a high tier HC for the people who don't have the adepts or the crafted one.
And yeh i do have an exalted and the lw one and they both destroy luna.
luna is like rose its not a true 140 and they do different things
enhanced precision instrument will 2c1b 3 resil
Love the daly vids, keep it up!!
if you put a icarus mod on it you have 60 ae its a precision frame it has 25+ ae at all times and 60 ae feels pefect
Precision instrument is so good beacuse you can 2tap and 1body when you are radiant ,and it just need a 3tap that you can be radiant easily.
And that artifact mod goes away in a month, meaning it will lose a lot of value
But then it can be enhanced,and enhanced precision instrument can cause more damge which can 1body and 2hand to kill low reliance.And this is also equivalent to more range.
@@WhyUReadingThisyou can still run acrobat’s dodge w Frostees
"It's a precision frame 140rpm hand cannon" -statements by the UTTERLY DERANGED
I got every shiny god roll possible of this weapon. Im on controller and it feels great.
60 ae is so nice, wish other hcs could get this base
Sadly other hc are saying the same thing about there base stats... oh man actual good rang and stability wish luna can get this base
Yeah last week i got the not forgotten at the kiosk and gave this thing the middle finger, zen moment is just too juicy and sunset is gone, no point farming for this.
why don’t camry snap skate? once i learned i can’t stop and unblinded my melee
It's fun but it doesn't really provide a strategic advantage at high levels
??? you physically move faster?? the amount of situations i’ve gotten out of because of it is insane, and i can bomb rush insanely fast.
I don't farm anything in onslaught. Whatever weapon I get to drop with decent rolls I keep. Some times I get shiny one's but I don't target farm anything in that activity. The Luna roll you have is similar to mine, 2 difference's the mag perk and masterwork! And yes I agree the old Luna's and not forgotten are better because of zen moment but the rolls you get on Luna's is pretty good!
I got a god roll adept zaouli
With explosive payload and eots
Guess I don't need Luna anymore
That's why Ive never liked that arquetype you can't see shit when you're shooting.
Old school not forgotten and Luna’s suck in Iron Banner or Comp/trials. But once they’re unsunset with the launch of TFS then they’ll be top picks.
i dont need a 5/5 roll i just need incandescent
havent gotten a single one but like 3 shinys with perks i dont need because they arent incandescent
this gun is goated on console. slide & opening and EOS + PI is my choice for console
I want it for pve doe, heal clip and incandescent is cool.
I still await the day that bungie sees zen moment and triple unflinching are mandatory and removes primary flinch entirely to allow other options.
One word. SHINY ✨
Inconsistent - yet slightly above average Crucible enjoyer here. I find the recoil to be managable on MnK, and I am using a max range roll with full-bore and ricochet. I wouldn't want to use a 140 with less than 65 range, as it would get walked on by other 140s, 120s, and pretty much any pulse rifle.
I also think precision instrument is worth running even in 6s. I had multiple engagements last night with 2-3 people at once, where I stacked up the headshot damage into the 90s and won the fight because of it. It stacks well with radiant, which is super easy to get this season - and when next season starts, you can enhance precision instrument to allow you a 1 bodyshot - 2 headshot kill on guardians with 3 resilience or lower.
Tldr: recoil is fine on MnK if you use the gun for a few hours, precision instrument is great for duals against multiple guardians, and being able to jump and accurately shoot the gun with just an icarus grip feels amazing.
I still think this is an 8/10 on MnK with the right rolls, and it's become my favorite 140 as a Titan main who likes to jump a little too much.
It a meh hc what give no advantage over any other hc..
Luna... vs rose.. rose wins by a land slide..
P E perk... is not very helpful outside of 6v6 I love trials I mean love.. I did the testing without the artifact mod the rang increase is minimal and needs only headshots to increase the rang by .1 to .2/3 meters..
My issue with luna even though it feels nice unless I have the hammer RR rang master work with slide opening.. I getting outrun by basic hc base stats..
Just don't see the reason why I should use luna perks combo is just slide opening... but slide just give the gun base stats of other hc.. we has (ausbringer forgot how it spelled) 70 up rang 70 up stability with opening and eye even zen moment if we want...
I'm getting a pve version with heal clip and incandescent :D
Even on controller I prefer regular 140s, the recoil throws me off too much. If I wanted to shoot a 180, I would.
when can we say that not being able to deal with the recoil animation is just a skill issue?
Just like flitch XD... I swear d2 players want this game to aim for them
@@funnystranger3380 the difference with flinch is that it's pure rng and you will lose duels because the game decided to make you lose it
@WaveringAna I never had an issue with it. When I do flitch, it makes sense because I shot right after being hit. Again, people in destiny just want the game to play for them. , we are so spoiled with the flitch reduction... we have more base flitch reduction base than we had in the past with 2 unflinching mods.. (no one complained) right now, we can pretty much make flitch not exist what is boring, you literally can't flitch a god rill 120 off the head.. or smg or auto side arms.. it a joke. XD.. it feels like I am playing aim trainer..
Maybe it is because I play other games that actually take recoil, so I just in a habit as correcting my aim fast
But there is no skill left in pvp, flitch doesn't exist, aiming was already brain-dead huge huge hitboxs ton of aim assist on mnk. Now flitch doesn't exist. Point shot close eye win
I think I'm going to stop farming it at this point. I'm on M&K. I'm also glad that I farmed Palindrome Adept when it was available. Outside of exotics, I either use Pali or Bottom Dollar depending on the map with a Void PVP build for my Titan. Its done well so far in 6s and 3s.
It really needed zen moment for you to like and I respect that. I love it and with high stability I am having success on mnk. Farming on repeat sucks I agree. You min max too hard cam ❤. Love ya tho keep up the great content.
tldr?
counterpoint: i need the pve roll
Not Forgotten feels better to me than a god roll lunas, probably because of zen moment, I don’t know but I’m gonna keep using NF, while farming Luna now and then
So, we know they will retroactive enhance the perks BUT can we change the barrel or masterwork as well?
I don't use M&K. On controller to this day Not Forgotten (and others with the same recoil) are the only hand cannons I ever use because all handcannons on controller are uncontrollable to me. Worse i'm not on console so i'm stuck playing against M&K players so yeah i basically quit pvp. That said i have ever Luna's roll i could want so i haven't farmed it since a two days after it launched.
Honestly with the amount of 140s ive been seeing (mainly lunas) sunshot having a straight up faster ttk really helps win duels in neutral.
However, sunshot; has worse ae, weird recoil, and because it gets 12 in the mag it takes 4 headshots to proc the perk that gives you radiant this season
Sunshot recoil is absolutely vile.
I have like 20k pve kills on it and only managed to push through like 100pvp kills.
Mind you I've a total of like 70k kills in pvp and over 30 are hcs so i do use them a LOT.
so precious scars really helped me to the light house for the last couple of trials weekends but I used summoner alot
that overshields really helps the reset like you wouldnt believe
Why have I seen both you and SirD use the "Totsugeki" account?
Totsugeki is cammy’s account, i guess he let sird borrow it for a video maybe?
Petition to give 180's and Mag Howl weapons the original Handcannon animations.
If they would remove the accuracy, range, and stability penalties that are applied just for using a controller, sure. Until then, this recoil is more usable for those poor folks.
Now he says "Don't farm...". And in next season we will see video about "Luna's Howl - best hc, if u didnt get it - you lose" xD
Luna’s Howl shooting animation day 1 has been a turn off to me. Slideshot almost made me want to grind for the gun though.
Luna's stability is amazing and becomes evident on the first try. I was disappointed though when I used in PVP. It was not doing much damage (pea shooter). I only kept rolls with good range but... Note: Crimson seems to have been NERFed as well. Note: I play PS4 w/ controller but not so frequently so perhaps what is a surprise to me is already reality for most who play constantly.
Don’t tell me what to do
Go outside Cammy. Take a walk. Read a book.
I think bro meant to say lunas howl (Vostok) at 5:05 before he says not forgotten is better btw
so been farming a healclip incandecent roll with a reload mag and amster work aswell as some other various flavous for pvp, even if the recoil is a kinda jank 180 recoil on a 140 frame, but my god this gun has either a bugged focus that doesnt work or a weighted drop rate to be worse than any other gun
I have done a ton of 50 waves both normal and legend, I have lost count of how many runs I have done and ill see maybe 5 lunas at best on a full 50 waves, have even seen none on a 50 wave legend run, not a single luna, with any other gun ill see 10 at the LOW END and 30+ drop on the high end -.-
this cant just be me this cant be just bad rng with how consistanly bad the drops are with this gun -.-
I'm a PvP main, and flutted barrel is the best
If you're using a warlock use transverse step with Luna's howl a very interesting reaction, give it a try you can stack those final rounds up to 10
Cammy with the truth
benn trying a bunch of diffrent rolls for luna's, it just does not feel as good on mnk than the old nf/luna, prob gonna go back to nf, i hope once we get nf if we ever get it it can roll something like zen moment slideshot/opening shot, mag howl now to me is just a win more perk that won't do anything most of the time
MUST HAVE 9/5 RAAAAAA!!!
hmm but it looks better than zaouli's so i might as well
My RNG sucks in D2, The more I play the activity it feels like my RNG gets worse 😆
If I get the roll I'm looking for, cool. If I don't get it, I get off and go play a different game
No lol. Feels good to me.
Good thing I'm on console you boomba
keep farming lunas if you want easy 2 taps. but MAKE SURE the weapon has over 55 range even if you have slideshot. this thing shoots ghost bullets like crazy. if weapon model is an issue just play stretched, the game plays better that way anyway lol.
@5:40
This has always been my problem with Destiny. I've adapted over the years.
But for most guns in this game, especially hand cannons, to not finish recoiling at their optimal ttk is crazy game design.
I think that's why so many people either love or hate PVP. You either compensate and get good or the skill isn't there and you hate it.
Interesting choice by bungie with that.