yeah dude, it’s insane. envious actually has the potential to be even better than that because you can double proc it with backup mag and augmented drum for 24 in the mag instead of just 16, and then you can hot swap backup mag for boss spec for some insane boss dps. that’s a hardcore roll, along with cascade also being a really good option that performs just below it for super fast burst dps. who knows when all of that will get fixed though
Edge transit has so many good rolls its fascinating. Personally I'd either go for envious + BnS or sticky nades + deconstruct. Two very solid dmg dealers. Also very hyped for Lunas for PvE. Yes it's a pvp weapon but healclip is very nice.
yeah dude, deconstruct is kinda being slept on right now, but it’s so good. same with Luna’s, people usually think of it for pvp cause the slideshot+opening shot roll it can get, but that heal clip+ magnificent howl roll is gonna be super strong, especially when you’re using a solar build and have radiant and restoration going as well!
Heal clips effectiveness kind of depends on your reload speed. . I can't imagine heal clip being very useful on sth like Zaoulis for example. You'll get killed twice before the heal from reloading comes.
@@RTGallows if your concern is it being dependent on the reload speed, then that can be said of all the reload activated perks in the game that are dependent on the same thing. the thing is that reload speed is completely in your control in terms of customization outside the weapon. whether it’s a buff or stats from subclass aspects or fragments, the ability to stack up to three loaders on your arms, having exotic effects that impact reload speed. there’s an endless number of ways to increase reload speed on the weapon. the main example i can bring up is that since luna’s is a solar handcannon that can grant cure, it obviously syngerizes with a solar subclass build. in my case it’s super easy to use my solar hunter build to keep my stacks of “On Your Mark” up constantly, making it so i don’t even need to spend anything on increasing my reload, it’s just a part of my combat loops and it’s syngeries. despite that, i usually still have at least one loader for my power weapon if not more depending on what it is, just for dps coverage. this can be the case for anything, and it’s one of the highlights of buildcrafting.
I thought my frenzy/headseeker Blast Furnace would be good in PvP, and glad to know you agree! I also have steady rounds and corkscrew instead on small bore. Can’t wait to try it out in PvP
@@THEaubooster Thanks! Will do! I also got a Frenzy/Kinetic Tremors one with Accurized Rounds and Arrowhead Brake, which I’ve been told is a great god roll. It’s going to be a “blast” in PVE! 😄
I can’t get behind forbearance for use against beefy targets. At that point use a fusion or a rocket sidearm. Also auto loading holster is not really needed on mountaintop unless it’s the recombination roll. The reload speed is innately faster than auto loading anyway.
yeah i’m pretty sure the roll I put on there didn’t have auto loading. also the point of auto loading isn’t just to be faster, it’s that you can do other things such as reload other weapons, do damage, or apply/proc effects while simultaneously reloading and not having to stay on that weapon to do it. it’s about efficiency not just a narrow assessment of speed. also it’s not just for beefy targets, the idea is to make it so that when you do hit a group of enemies it’s not just the beefier ads that linger long after you’ve cleared out the rest and you have to keep pouring ammo into them. once again, just an assessment of efficiency/optimization and getting more out of your ammo. but if at the end of the day if you just can’t get behind using that ideology or using the gl that way, i’m sure a fusion or rocket gl will do great too. to each their own. there’s not any rocket sidearm or fusions in this list or from onslaught so it’s a bit aside the point, but i hope you get that roll you’re looking for!
Nah you sleeping on Hammerhead. Easily the best weapon in the brave arsenal with rampage killing tally or assassin tally. Can literally get your entire ammo reserve in 1 clip.
id definitely take assassin tally over rampage tally just cause they often end up feeling like they’re working against each other in terms of ammo preservation. the assassin tally roll feels like you’re playing with hacks on though lmaooo
@@THEaubooster Have you tried Rampage/Killing Tally yet? The amount of damage feels illegal. The 2 perks also synergize a lot better than you would think since you're dealing with a much smaller mag than what most people are used to via reconstruction on like Commemoration/Song of Ir Yut. However I am hoping to get one of those special Brave edition with Rampage/Envious Assassin and Killing tally. Could do some crazy stuff with the perk swapping honestly. Envious/Rewind for example would go hard with Killing Tally 😆
@@stephenripcord3987 hell yeah that would be so dope. and yeah dude i actually got super lucky and got a special version that had both killing tally and rampage on it and i was so psyched because I had just seen a clip of somebody comparing the damage with both active and I felt like i needed to try it. it is really crazy but you’re right about the mag running out way faster than you’re used to. it tears through yellow bars like it’s nothing tho!
i wish a got a better roll where i could do some perk swapping too though like if I had one with envious and overloaded the mag by 200% then hot swapped to rampage+killing tally, that would be crazyyy
@@THEaubooster Fr there are so many great combinations for hotswapping on the Hammerhead. Sadly the other brave arsenal weapons just wouldn't benefit the same way from the perk swapping so trying it out where you can is nice.
yeah dude, a lot of people love that combo. and you’re exactly right, double aoe just one on kills and one can proc without kills so it’s a good way to get consistent aoe damage output on adds. that’s a solid roll!
there’s a 12 second timer of being in “active combat”. essentially you have to send out or receive some form of damage at least once every 5 seconds to be considered still in combat, and keep that up for 12 seconds to proc frenzy. it can often occur naturally when you’re trying to play carefully and preserve your life (such as in Trials of Osiris), but if you’re familiar with slightly reserved playstyles where you might keeping poking out of cover at your opponents to safely deal periodic damage, that’s often the type of situation where it can proc passively. otherwise, things that help out are Damage Over Time effects such as scorch from solar sources or the poison from thorn. ricochets rounds is another good sneaky way to get unsuspecting hits on targets for around corners and you can’t even see each other and mostly remain safe. you also don’t have to have the weapon that is granted frenzy out in order for it to proc, it can be damage from almost any source. hopefully that helps!
You need enlightened action or threat detector. It needs a non kill reload speed perk to work in pve. The reload is just too bad at base. Elsie has amazing reload so you can throw an extended mag on it with no reload perk and go for rewind rounds with destabilizing rounds and shoot forever. I'll stop here for correcting you cus this seems all pvp related. I wont be using many brave weapons for pvp.
this is a hybrid pvp/pve list. i don’t know what you’re referring to though because you haven’t specified which weapon you’re talking about. either way, you definitely don’t NEED a reload perk homie. perks just provide the actual reload stat, or an animation duration multiplier (or both), both of which are achievable through other means such as armor mods, exotic effects, subclass effects, etc. many of the best endgame pve builds have built in ways to circumvent the penalty of reloading specifically so that you don’t have to dedicate a trait slot to it. it’s just suboptimal when you can use one of the other methods, that have the same efficacy within that purpose, which then allows you to invest in additional weapon damage or loadout synergies through your weapon trait. i’ll stop here for correcting you tho
yes, i mainly meant in terms of without requiring a kill activation such as that due to it being more limiting imo. if that makes sense it kinda comes off as a more niche/different use case aside practical dps
that’s alright bro, i make an effort to provide some unconventional insights, and it’s only natural we would make some different selections. feel free to share what some of your picks would be and what you like about them!
lol yeah, i said that cause it’s relatively low compared to all other weapon types. it’s actually the lowest shot requirement for any primary, and the only weapon type that is lower is snipers because they’re special ammo. second lowest is non-burst sidearms at 8. ofc rpm is a factor as well, but when you have infinite range from explosive payload that shi goes brrr
@THEaubooster rpm is a major factor. Not mentioning it at all when talking about blast furnace when it can be proced in less than 3 bursts is a disservice. Also not mentioning its synergy with one for all.
i mean, i did say it makes up the pve god roll, but tbh this isn’t a “blast furnace pve godroll” video or a “kinetic tremors in-depth breakdown” video. if you wanna see/learn more about that roll or that perk, just leave a comment.
@@THEaubooster this oversized response seems to be attacking a strawman. I never claimed almost all of what you're responding to, I simply had a disagreement with your "god roll"
you didn’t “have a disagreement about my godroll” you critiqued part of my video for not including the subject matter of a different video topic and said i was doing a disservice. just saying, if you want a specific video from me or have some decent input, convey it properly.
yeah i thought about it but there wasn’t enough of just one or the other for each to have their own tier list, so in the future i’m thinking of just editing an on screen indicator or something. still kinda brainstorming it lol, but i’m sure i’ll figure something decent out thanks for the feedback!
Decent vid but what were you smok'n that lead you to think playing 1 annoying song for 6 days straight was a good idea for a video? Definitely not worth a sub. Mix up the tunes man.
it’s two songs mixed together, lol. but valid critique, just remember music is subjective. i’ve done the same thing on other videos with a single song instead of two mixed together, and on videos that are more than double the length, yet you’re the first to mention it, so i’m a bit surprised you feel so strongly ab it. but i do hear ya. i’ll keep that in mind for my next edit. thanks for the feedback 🤙🏽
watching this on my second monitor while I grab a god roll midnight coup 🙌
envious/bait&switch edge transit is very possibly the best dps in the game, being able to unload 16 frags without reloading is insane
yeah dude, it’s insane. envious actually has the potential to be even better than that because you can double proc it with backup mag and augmented drum for 24 in the mag instead of just 16, and then you can hot swap backup mag for boss spec for some insane boss dps. that’s a hardcore roll, along with cascade also being a really good option that performs just below it for super fast burst dps.
who knows when all of that will get fixed though
I have close to that roll on Elsie's rifle but with Light Mag instead of Ricochet Rounds. It's very good in PvP.
heck yeah, that’s still a top tier roll there my friend. super underestimated
@@THEaubooster I almost had an Unbroken the first time I used it but got caught by an invisible Hunter with a shotgun hiding in a corner.
@@AKSBSU LMAO that’s a different type of player right there. hate when that happens to me 😭
Edge transit has so many good rolls its fascinating. Personally I'd either go for envious + BnS or sticky nades + deconstruct. Two very solid dmg dealers.
Also very hyped for Lunas for PvE. Yes it's a pvp weapon but healclip is very nice.
yeah dude, deconstruct is kinda being slept on right now, but it’s so good. same with Luna’s, people usually think of it for pvp cause the slideshot+opening shot roll it can get, but that heal clip+ magnificent howl roll is gonna be super strong, especially when you’re using a solar build and have radiant and restoration going as well!
@@THEaubooster Add in that one fragment that grants you agility regen when applying cure to allies and we are cooking
hell yeah, dps and support at the same time haha
Heal clips effectiveness kind of depends on your reload speed. . I can't imagine heal clip being very useful on sth like Zaoulis for example. You'll get killed twice before the heal from reloading comes.
@@RTGallows if your concern is it being dependent on the reload speed, then that can be said of all the reload activated perks in the game that are dependent on the same thing. the thing is that reload speed is completely in your control in terms of customization outside the weapon. whether it’s a buff or stats from subclass aspects or fragments, the ability to stack up to three loaders on your arms, having exotic effects that impact reload speed. there’s an endless number of ways to increase reload speed on the weapon. the main example i can bring up is that since luna’s is a solar handcannon that can grant cure, it obviously syngerizes with a solar subclass build. in my case it’s super easy to use my solar hunter build to keep my stacks of “On Your Mark” up constantly, making it so i don’t even need to spend anything on increasing my reload, it’s just a part of my combat loops and it’s syngeries. despite that, i usually still have at least one loader for my power weapon if not more depending on what it is, just for dps coverage. this can be the case for anything, and it’s one of the highlights of buildcrafting.
I thought my frenzy/headseeker Blast Furnace would be good in PvP, and glad to know you agree! I also have steady rounds and corkscrew instead on small bore. Can’t wait to try it out in PvP
yeah dude that sounds like a killer roll! lots of good stats from corkscrew small bore. let me know how you like it
@@THEaubooster Thanks! Will do! I also got a Frenzy/Kinetic Tremors one with Accurized Rounds and Arrowhead Brake, which I’ve been told is a great god roll. It’s going to be a “blast” in PVE! 😄
@@Tann_Solo you’ve got two god rolls *AND* jokes. quite the fortunate fellow, you are, haha
Sounds like you’re gonna have some fun in the crucible!
I can’t get behind forbearance for use against beefy targets. At that point use a fusion or a rocket sidearm. Also auto loading holster is not really needed on mountaintop unless it’s the recombination roll. The reload speed is innately faster than auto loading anyway.
yeah i’m pretty sure the roll I put on there didn’t have auto loading. also the point of auto loading isn’t just to be faster, it’s that you can do other things such as reload other weapons, do damage, or apply/proc effects while simultaneously reloading and not having to stay on that weapon to do it. it’s about efficiency not just a narrow assessment of speed. also it’s not just for beefy targets, the idea is to make it so that when you do hit a group of enemies it’s not just the beefier ads that linger long after you’ve cleared out the rest and you have to keep pouring ammo into them. once again, just an assessment of efficiency/optimization and getting more out of your ammo. but if at the end of the day if you just can’t get behind using that ideology or using the gl that way, i’m sure a fusion or rocket gl will do great too. to each their own. there’s not any rocket sidearm or fusions in this list or from onslaught so it’s a bit aside the point, but i hope you get that roll you’re looking for!
Sticky nades
Impulse amplifier
Freanzy
W/ reload masterwork
For edge transit
Is REALLY good 👐
wow yeah between impulse amplifier and frenzy i’m sure that reload speed is crazy fast!
Great video. Broken down very well. 👍🏻
Thanks a bunch ♥️
Nah you sleeping on Hammerhead. Easily the best weapon in the brave arsenal with rampage killing tally or assassin tally. Can literally get your entire ammo reserve in 1 clip.
id definitely take assassin tally over rampage tally just cause they often end up feeling like they’re working against each other in terms of ammo preservation. the assassin tally roll feels like you’re playing with hacks on though lmaooo
@@THEaubooster Have you tried Rampage/Killing Tally yet? The amount of damage feels illegal. The 2 perks also synergize a lot better than you would think since you're dealing with a much smaller mag than what most people are used to via reconstruction on like Commemoration/Song of Ir Yut. However I am hoping to get one of those special Brave edition with Rampage/Envious Assassin and Killing tally. Could do some crazy stuff with the perk swapping honestly. Envious/Rewind for example would go hard with Killing Tally 😆
@@stephenripcord3987 hell yeah that would be so dope. and yeah dude i actually got super lucky and got a special version that had both killing tally and rampage on it and i was so psyched because I had just seen a clip of somebody comparing the damage with both active and I felt like i needed to try it. it is really crazy but you’re right about the mag running out way faster than you’re used to. it tears through yellow bars like it’s nothing tho!
i wish a got a better roll where i could do some perk swapping too though like if I had one with envious and overloaded the mag by 200% then hot swapped to rampage+killing tally, that would be crazyyy
@@THEaubooster Fr there are so many great combinations for hotswapping on the Hammerhead. Sadly the other brave arsenal weapons just wouldn't benefit the same way from the perk swapping so trying it out where you can is nice.
I have a tremors and firefly one. Would those go good together? Both seem like AOE damage. I just started playing again
yeah dude, a lot of people love that combo. and you’re exactly right, double aoe just one on kills and one can proc without kills so it’s a good way to get consistent aoe damage output on adds. that’s a solid roll!
Best sword in the game just saying
i won’t argue that, my friend
How are you activating Frenzy in PvP? I can never get it to work
there’s a 12 second timer of being in “active combat”. essentially you have to send out or receive some form of damage at least once every 5 seconds to be considered still in combat, and keep that up for 12 seconds to proc frenzy. it can often occur naturally when you’re trying to play carefully and preserve your life (such as in Trials of Osiris), but if you’re familiar with slightly reserved playstyles where you might keeping poking out of cover at your opponents to safely deal periodic damage, that’s often the type of situation where it can proc passively. otherwise, things that help out are Damage Over Time effects such as scorch from solar sources or the poison from thorn. ricochets rounds is another good sneaky way to get unsuspecting hits on targets for around corners and you can’t even see each other and mostly remain safe. you also don’t have to have the weapon that is granted frenzy out in order for it to proc, it can be damage from almost any source. hopefully that helps!
You need enlightened action or threat detector. It needs a non kill reload speed perk to work in pve. The reload is just too bad at base.
Elsie has amazing reload so you can throw an extended mag on it with no reload perk and go for rewind rounds with destabilizing rounds and shoot forever.
I'll stop here for correcting you cus this seems all pvp related. I wont be using many brave weapons for pvp.
this is a hybrid pvp/pve list. i don’t know what you’re referring to though because you haven’t specified which weapon you’re talking about. either way, you definitely don’t NEED a reload perk homie. perks just provide the actual reload stat, or an animation duration multiplier (or both), both of which are achievable through other means such as armor mods, exotic effects, subclass effects, etc. many of the best endgame pve builds have built in ways to circumvent the penalty of reloading specifically so that you don’t have to dedicate a trait slot to it. it’s just suboptimal when you can use one of the other methods, that have the same efficacy within that purpose, which then allows you to invest in additional weapon damage or loadout synergies through your weapon trait.
i’ll stop here for correcting you tho
🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
Cant Sword logic do 50% with a boss kill. Surrounded is 40% sword logic is 50% boss.
yes, i mainly meant in terms of without requiring a kill activation such as that due to it being more limiting imo. if that makes sense
it kinda comes off as a more niche/different use case aside practical dps
Bruh chain reaction is only being nerf on specials
you right. heavy wave GLs are gonna be strong af too
I honestly disagree with almost all of these choices
that’s alright bro, i make an effort to provide some unconventional insights, and it’s only natural we would make some different selections. feel free to share what some of your picks would be and what you like about them!
28:35 "kinetic tremors ONLY takes 6 shots on hand cannons" 💀
lol yeah, i said that cause it’s relatively low compared to all other weapon types. it’s actually the lowest shot requirement for any primary, and the only weapon type that is lower is snipers because they’re special ammo. second lowest is non-burst sidearms at 8. ofc rpm is a factor as well, but when you have infinite range from explosive payload that shi goes brrr
@THEaubooster rpm is a major factor. Not mentioning it at all when talking about blast furnace when it can be proced in less than 3 bursts is a disservice. Also not mentioning its synergy with one for all.
i mean, i did say it makes up the pve god roll, but tbh this isn’t a “blast furnace pve godroll” video or a “kinetic tremors in-depth breakdown” video. if you wanna see/learn more about that roll or that perk, just leave a comment.
@@THEaubooster this oversized response seems to be attacking a strawman. I never claimed almost all of what you're responding to, I simply had a disagreement with your "god roll"
you didn’t “have a disagreement about my godroll” you critiqued part of my video for not including the subject matter of a different video topic and said i was doing a disservice. just saying, if you want a specific video from me or have some decent input, convey it properly.
You should separate pvp from pve rolls , very confusing video mixing pvp whit pve
yeah i thought about it but there wasn’t enough of just one or the other for each to have their own tier list, so in the future i’m thinking of just editing an on screen indicator or something. still kinda brainstorming it lol, but i’m sure i’ll figure something decent out
thanks for the feedback!
Decent vid but what were you smok'n that lead you to think playing 1 annoying song for 6 days straight was a good idea for a video? Definitely not worth a sub. Mix up the tunes man.
it’s two songs mixed together, lol. but valid critique, just remember music is subjective. i’ve done the same thing on other videos with a single song instead of two mixed together, and on videos that are more than double the length, yet you’re the first to mention it, so i’m a bit surprised you feel so strongly ab it. but i do hear ya. i’ll keep that in mind for my next edit.
thanks for the feedback 🤙🏽