Hm, I don't think Aemon's appearence of neutrality is an argument against him - quite the opposite. He says he is concerned with the being *seen* to support one candidate specifically, and the raven is a way around that.
This was always my thinking, Aemon knew Jon's true parentage and has always been on his side thinking he was the one the prophecy foretold. He is a sly one that maester. He never says what he is truly thinking and is vague when he does talk
If you're hungry for more on Mormont's raven you should Google 'asoiaf corn code'. One of the best theories I've come across that for whatever reason didn't receive the attention it deserves. Basically the author made a connection between events in the north, and how many times a raven says 'corn'. If i remember correctly his system held true a very high percentage of the time. That was before Dance was released, and now that we know someone is likely warging every raven the theory makes allot of sense.
I was so sure you were going to say Melissandre because 1. She tries to help Jon when he does become LC 2. She can see the future 3. She can do magic 4. She has access to the king's tower, where the Raven might have been
Hey Preston that's a compelling theory, however I feel you're not giving Aemon his full credit here. First he's Blood Raven's... Nephew? Relation. He grew up under what is widely regarded as Blood Raven's rule. He was nominated as king possibly by BR, he accompanied Blood Raven to the wall and served as Maester for Lord Commander Brendon River's for years. There is certainly no living character with as many ties to BR. Second Aemon is a Maester, a group of suspected deceiver's and schemers who specialise in manipulating events to serve the 'greater good' ya'know like conspiring to elect a Lord Commander who wants to recruit the wildlings to fight the Others. I think whatever the case Blood Raven is architect of Jon's election. So I wouldn't be so fast to write off anyone with possible ties to him. By the way who else in the Night's Watch has possible ties to Blood Raven? His reign of Lord Commander was quite a while ago but isn't it likely many of the older men knew him? That period is never mentioned by anyone at the wall.
Also, I'm fairly certain Aemon's "maesters take no sides" thing was referring to Sam wanting Aemon to speak with Pyke and Mallister, which is an open and traceable display of bias. Putting a raven in the kettle on the other hand... No one can prove that was Aemon, few even suspect him.
What do you know of waiting my sweet summer child. Waiting is for the long night when Preston hides for months and Children born and live and die all before the night watch part 3 comes out
Would it be possible that jeor mormont is in league with whoever is skin changing the raven? It would be an effective communication tool. Could he have asked this person to make sure that the raven be used to make jon his "heir" if he dies? It would parallel Robb's faith in jon in his will.
I disagree with a lot of the conclusions these videos come to and even interpret some of the writing/passages differently than the channel creator, but, with that said, these are extremely well made and researched. I doubt many fans could do better and, even taking into account the disagreements I have over certain theories in the videos, the theories themselves are the best out of all the other ASoIaF channels out there (most of which seem to think everyone is either a Faceless Man or a Lannister in disguise). Really glad I found someone who puts in the time and thought to put out all this free entertainment. Please keep it up! ...but, I swear to God, if you ever undermine Sam's brief phases of courage again, I will burn this place to the ground!!
Why is there no theory that Mormont was a skin-changer? 1. He's a Northerner, so he has blood of the First Men. 2. He had a strange bond with the Raven. When the wildlings capture Jon, his bond with Ghost tips them off to his status as a Warg. 3. After Mormont died, his Raven picked up the conversation Sam was having with the dying Lord Commander.
Is it really so hard to believe that Mormont's Raven, who is very smart, might have plotted this itself? The raven could have sat waiting for someone to take the lid off the pot and when people weren't looking, it flew into the pot. The raven, or really person inside the raven, is the one who wanted Jon as Commander. The raven could have been spying about previously and heard about Jon's nomination, and also could have been the one subtly convincing Sam and others that Jon is the best choice for Commander. I think the raven had been taking care of itself and wasn't locked anywhere.
We have precedent of Bloodraven having influence at the Wall. He was lord commander and he also arrived with 200 prechanged loyalist archers known as the “Ravens Teeth”
Also Aemon arrived the same time are Bloodraven. And Bloodraven is his great Uncle. So no mysteries at all in the connection to us. Only in the book. Which means we are wrong.
Being a Targaryen, Aemon is probably a warg as well. I don't see why he couldn't have been the one to both skinchange into the raven after having put it in the kettle after using his Jedi mind trick on Sam to go and talk to the two commanders of the other castles. It is true that he say that he must not be seen to influence the election and true to his word no one did see all the things he did to make Jon win.
Zay Diamonds so many mysteries to unpack about the Halfhand. To start, why would he bring a squad of elite Shadow Tower men (of which there are relatively few) on a clear suicide mission?
It's possible that if Bloodraven was behind it, he had Aemon put the raven in the kettle. I know Aemon was loyal to his post as a Maester, but he and Bloodraven spent much of his life together before and after taking the Black and Aemon clearly knew he had some mystical abilities. Maybe Bloodraven came to him in a dream and told him to do it or maybe he warged him and did it. I agree that Edd is probably the one that did it, but a Bloodraven/Aemon conspiracy would be very interesting.
So excited for the next one. Was really hoping this would have an out there wacky supernatural answer but not all mysteries are solved with dragons and wizards
Just because the raven said "Snow" and landed on Jon's shoulder doesn't mean that the person who put the raven in there expected that to happen. I still don't have a better theory, but logically you can't rule out that someone just wanted to shut the bird up or kill it (or maybe thought it would have a different effect when it came flying out)
And here I thought you were gonna go a Howland Reed direction with it. I'd still pit that as my second best guess, bit I'll say, you've got my first slow over to Ed. It fits in a nice, simple way.
Maybe Guesses #1 and #2 are the same? Aemon is Bloodraven's accomplice? He pretended to be neutral to Sam so no one would think he would do it. Actually, Aemon receiving information from Bloodraven is also an explanation on why Aemon knows about the Sphinix Riddle.
Q&A: Ok, Preston I don't understand something. You said the Wall is like a barrier for skinchangers: Jon had been separated from Ghost when they were on the opposite side of it. But you said the skinchanger who had controlled the raven could have been Bloodraven as well. So, can we cross out him?
I think your conclusion is probably correct, but I don't believe that Aemon was opposed to manipulating the election. Certainly, his words indicate that: (a) the brothers are the electorate and whoever they elect in the end is the one he will serve; and (b) he could not "be seen to favor one contender over another". Regarding (a), that's obvious - but it doesn't imply that he can't act in a way that convinces them to elect his favored candidate. As for (b), it's merely a matter of appearance - that he can't *be seen* influencing the election, not that he can't actually manipulate things behind the scenes.
Sorry for poking into your comments here, but for those of us that don't frequent the Reddit forums very often, what's the deal with all this flagrant flagging. I know the back story on what went down, at least as much as was talked about on Carmine's interview with Preston. But as a SERIOUS fan (Patreon supporter of both sides) why is flagging appropriate in this situation? Serious question from a guy that knows nothing of the inner workings of UA-cam. It seems very petty to me, childish almost. It just seems to me that the people who get hurt the most are the fans (or should I say us small folk not interested in the struggles between the Lords of UA-cam and Reddit) when a site gets flagged.
tin foil theory but I think that when Aemon died he warged into Mormont's raven, he did die far away from it, but Arya could warg from that distance, and he is a targaryan , maybe he used to the bird to influence Mormont the whole time, maybe a lot of maesters do that
Bran. From the future. Having learnt that is really hard to influence people through the visions (as the wind, or the sound of leaves) he has gone to the logical next step: using animals and ever-so-slightly influenced people. That's why everything is so custom-made for Jon. Bran knows him well. As to who was the one who got the raven there... my money's on Aemon/Edd. I had not even though about Ed previously, but once again you have my acceptance. Gorgeous work.
Ser Denys Mallister might be the Bloodraven ally at the wall. He's one of the oldest, of high birth, doesnt mind bastards, he would certainly know mormont's Raveb, and he knew john was going to be nominated
I like the idea of Bloodraven having agents, to me Aemon would make sense as he is a cousin to Bloodraven and they have both lived so long. As well both have been outspoken about prophecies concerning the return of dragons. Perhaps Aemon should have been promoted to Archmeaster but refused it himself rather than been ignored as Marwen had said, on the advise of Bloodraven
why do you do this to me .. you make me examine and re read everything . I read a book first really fast then if I like. I re-read paying great detail. As you have pointed out it's the smallest lines that said in passing that could be the key . thanks Preston
Yeay! I had a feeling you would go with Edd, though I wish you said more about Sweet Donnel Hill. He is an interesting character. Well, there's always next time.
4:00 it doesn't seem brazen, it seems like exactly what someone who wanted to interfere with an election without looking like you're interfering would do
I've spent weeks waiting for part 3, trying to anticipate your suspects identity, because I knew you'd lay a total omg moment on us with a crazy, out of left field suspect, and as usual, you did not disappointed. Kinda feel embarrassed I never considered Edd. Absolutely the most likely pick outside of the more obvious names. But I think you're wrong. I have the same reasons as you do for Aemon being the guilty party. Where we differ is in interpretation of Aemon's personal feelings about a Maester's role in such a contentious election. Certainly the most important election for Lord Commander since Bloodraven, which I'll add was likely Aemon's first. Plus we don't know if the previous Maester was dead before Aemon arrived, or if he had time to work with Aemon before dying. Who knows what advice he'd give Aemon about a Maesters duty to the NW at a time where the brothers are so divided that it threatens the very existence of the NW (eh hem Stannis). What I'm saying is while Aemon truly believes appearing impartial is his duty, but actually being impartial and helping to guide the process in a way that will save the NW, may be the one duty he considers to be above all else. How better to save the watch by convincing everyone, even Sam, who's basically his son by this time, that he doesn't care who wins. I doubt manipulating Sam to achieve the preferred outcome would pose even a minor challenge to Aemon, not to mention the possibility he is working with Bloodraven on some level, or simply fell asleep in moonlight and is BRs proxy without even knowing. Btw my number 2 guess involves the moon, dreams, and Sam who's well known to certain leaders north of the Wall. Practically a Preston Jacobs specialty ain't it lol Whatever the answer I don't expect it to involve more than Sam or Aemon. But omg I do wish it is Edd. That's a story I'd pay to hear. Ty again for this channel. You do great work and greatness is never easy!
I think it was ameon, he believes is profecy and is an tageryan. That makes him an perfect spy for blodraven, he could just send him a dream about the wall falling if jon isn't elected. (Damn I can never remember how to spell Asoiaf names:D)
"Next we'll talk about Halfhand" YES FUCKING YES. Halfhand was the most interesting and peculiar character in ACoK, I can't wait to hear more about him.
I would also assert Owen the Oaf as a possible accomplice to the skinchanger. You mentioned that the skinchanger could communicate through dreams and the only nights watch member we know to be receiving some form of “prophetic” visions (that have fully come to fruition) is Owen the oaf with his dream of stannis crushing the assault on the wall. Dolorous edd and Owen are definitely my top two suspects for putting mormonts raven in the kettle
It has to be melisandre ,the clues are in the previous chapter when she burned the eagle/ orell .If she can do that she is capable of putting the raven bird in the kettle possibly of a vision in the flame .
Thrilled about the Qhorin series, been wondering about that for a while, everytime I go for a reread of ASOIAF Qhorin's actions(and words) always seems more and more suspicious to me
I can see why this took so long. interesting to see a mystery laid at dolorous ed's feet, he's an oft named character but seems to do fairly little, maybe he's azhor ahai reborn :p
There is another option though. I don't recall much about the kettle, I'll admit, but isn't it also possible that someone opened the kettle for a different purpose and then the raven flew into it and the person didn't notice and closed it? Black bird and black kettle. Inattentive dude. In fact, you could even make this part of Bloodraven's plan if you wanted. Bloodraven gives some Night's Watch dude a dream which motivates them to open the kettle.
I always figured it was Aemon who put the raven in the kettle and just said what he said to throw off any suspicion. I also never interperated the raven as a skinchangeling, just a talking bird that liked Jon since he was close to Mormont.
Maybe the raven snuck in after the last vote and whoever put the lid on didn't notice the dark bird in the shadows of the kettle's belly. Maybe the raven Jedi'd someone into doing it.
Great analysis, but - in my opinion - wrong conclusion. Of the 3 options you presented at the end, both 1# and 2# are correct: it was Aemon Targaryen, and he is also in league with Bloodraven. You say there is no clue for an accomplice to Bloodraven? Yes there is, Aemon was the one who took Bloodraven with him to the wall, after Aegon V was made king. IF Bloodraven has a human ally on the wall, of all the characters who are still alive, it would be Aemon. Two more clues: if you took Aemons serious with his "I'd never", you fall for his "old, blind man"-shtick. He is more calculation. Plus, if we already established that Mormont's raven is being warged, why would you relie on someone who has no knowledge of set warging (Edd) to put him in the kettle? It's more likely you would turn to someone who knows you are being warged, and again Aemon is more likely to know that.
So if Aemon was supposedly neutral, couldn't his mind have been altered with? Similarly how Jon changed his mind when Ghost was around. As we've seen a bunch of times in the story?
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Hm, I don't think Aemon's appearence of neutrality is an argument against him - quite the opposite. He says he is concerned with the being *seen* to support one candidate specifically, and the raven is a way around that.
So like... how did a blind old man put a raven in a kettle without anyone noticing?
@@ThePooper3000 bro that comment is three years old I don't remember
@@ThePooper3000 he's been blind for decades and he still performs all his duties as a maester. I wouldn't put his lack of vision against him.
This was always my thinking, Aemon knew Jon's true parentage and has always been on his side thinking he was the one the prophecy foretold.
He is a sly one that maester.
He never says what he is truly thinking and is vague when he does talk
Bloodraemon
FINALY!!
now we need a ten part series on Mormont's Raven, holding you to it
Chad Summerchild The high septon hasn't annulled it.
If you're hungry for more on Mormont's raven you should Google 'asoiaf corn code'. One of the best theories I've come across that for whatever reason didn't receive the attention it deserves. Basically the author made a connection between events in the north, and how many times a raven says 'corn'. If i remember correctly his system held true a very high percentage of the time. That was before Dance was released, and now that we know someone is likely warging every raven the theory makes allot of sense.
Chad .. I miss you BRO
Maria Ramirez Good grief, shut the hell up with your high septon annulled it comments. It got old long before the 326th time
CORN
I was so sure you were going to say Melissandre because
1. She tries to help Jon when he does become LC
2. She can see the future
3. She can do magic
4. She has access to the king's tower, where the Raven might have been
Hey Preston that's a compelling theory, however I feel you're not giving Aemon his full credit here. First he's Blood Raven's... Nephew? Relation. He grew up under what is widely regarded as Blood Raven's rule. He was nominated as king possibly by BR, he accompanied Blood Raven to the wall and served as Maester for Lord Commander Brendon River's for years. There is certainly no living character with as many ties to BR.
Second Aemon is a Maester, a group of suspected deceiver's and schemers who specialise in manipulating events to serve the 'greater good' ya'know like conspiring to elect a Lord Commander who wants to recruit the wildlings to fight the Others. I think whatever the case Blood Raven is architect of Jon's election. So I wouldn't be so fast to write off anyone with possible ties to him.
By the way who else in the Night's Watch has possible ties to Blood Raven? His reign of Lord Commander was quite a while ago but isn't it likely many of the older men knew him? That period is never mentioned by anyone at the wall.
Pocketbomb He’s Bloodraven’s great nephew.
Also, I'm fairly certain Aemon's "maesters take no sides" thing was referring to Sam wanting Aemon to speak with Pyke and Mallister, which is an open and traceable display of bias. Putting a raven in the kettle on the other hand... No one can prove that was Aemon, few even suspect him.
Jon Snow is also related to Bloodraven, lol!
If Dolorous Ed could get Jon to be elected as Lord Commander of the Night's Watch, I say WE can get Preston elected as new GoT showrunner.
ZTorres you really think he wants to take responsibility for steering the shitshow
According to TV canon, making Jon the LC didn't help for long, as he now has to do it anyway.
You guys need to learn how to take a joke.
Same to you... :-P
Well played, sir.
What do you know of waiting my sweet summer child. Waiting is for the long night when Preston hides for months and Children born and live and die all before the night watch part 3 comes out
Dr. Qyburn M.D the high septon annulled it.
My sweet TV/UA-cam child.
You meant to say.
What is dead may never die, but posts again... eventually.
LightningNC the high septon had finally annulled it.
What is Edd may never die
Still waiting for my goddamn Sandkings!
What is bread may never pie but rises with the help of yeast especially high.
It is known...
Dolorous Edd is actually 24/7 skinchanged by Bloodraven
Bernd Amen his stories are almost staged.
FAKE NEWS
just his luck :(
Would it be possible that jeor mormont is in league with whoever is skin changing the raven? It would be an effective communication tool. Could he have asked this person to make sure that the raven be used to make jon his "heir" if he dies? It would parallel Robb's faith in jon in his will.
I think you just convinced me.
I disagree with a lot of the conclusions these videos come to and even interpret some of the writing/passages differently than the channel creator, but, with that said, these are extremely well made and researched. I doubt many fans could do better and, even taking into account the disagreements I have over certain theories in the videos, the theories themselves are the best out of all the other ASoIaF channels out there (most of which seem to think everyone is either a Faceless Man or a Lannister in disguise). Really glad I found someone who puts in the time and thought to put out all this free entertainment. Please keep it up!
...but, I swear to God, if you ever undermine Sam's brief phases of courage again, I will burn this place to the ground!!
Why is there no theory that Mormont was a skin-changer? 1. He's a Northerner, so he has blood of the First Men.
2. He had a strange bond with the Raven. When the wildlings capture Jon, his bond with Ghost tips them off to his status as a Warg.
3. After Mormont died, his Raven picked up the conversation Sam was having with the dying Lord Commander.
Is it really so hard to believe that Mormont's Raven, who is very smart, might have plotted this itself? The raven could have sat waiting for someone to take the lid off the pot and when people weren't looking, it flew into the pot. The raven, or really person inside the raven, is the one who wanted Jon as Commander. The raven could have been spying about previously and heard about Jon's nomination, and also could have been the one subtly convincing Sam and others that Jon is the best choice for Commander. I think the raven had been taking care of itself and wasn't locked anywhere.
Ghost lifted the kettle lid for the raven to fly in.
We have precedent of Bloodraven having influence at the Wall. He was lord commander and he also arrived with 200 prechanged loyalist archers known as the “Ravens Teeth”
Also Aemon arrived the same time are Bloodraven. And Bloodraven is his great Uncle. So no mysteries at all in the connection to us. Only in the book. Which means we are wrong.
Being a Targaryen, Aemon is probably a warg as well. I don't see why he couldn't have been the one to both skinchange into the raven after having put it in the kettle after using his Jedi mind trick on Sam to go and talk to the two commanders of the other castles.
It is true that he say that he must not be seen to influence the election and true to his word no one did see all the things he did to make Jon win.
I speed up almost every video I watch on youtube. Your videos are the only ones I slow down so that I don't miss anything.
Excited for schemes of the half hand. Really don't believe the theory that he was Oswell Whent. Really interested in Prestons take!
Zay Diamonds so many mysteries to unpack about the Halfhand. To start, why would he bring a squad of elite Shadow Tower men (of which there are relatively few) on a clear suicide mission?
**Gets notification**
*IM READY*
5 on a Friday and a new Preston video? Fucking perfect.
It's possible that if Bloodraven was behind it, he had Aemon put the raven in the kettle. I know Aemon was loyal to his post as a Maester, but he and Bloodraven spent much of his life together before and after taking the Black and Aemon clearly knew he had some mystical abilities. Maybe Bloodraven came to him in a dream and told him to do it or maybe he warged him and did it.
I agree that Edd is probably the one that did it, but a Bloodraven/Aemon conspiracy would be very interesting.
So excited for the next one. Was really hoping this would have an out there wacky supernatural answer but not all mysteries are solved with dragons and wizards
HERE PRESTON BOY! Take my LIKE and add it to the rest! *Throws like at PRESTON
I cant believe this is real, waiting for this felt like waiting for WOW
Just because the raven said "Snow" and landed on Jon's shoulder doesn't mean that the person who put the raven in there expected that to happen. I still don't have a better theory, but logically you can't rule out that someone just wanted to shut the bird up or kill it (or maybe thought it would have a different effect when it came flying out)
So glad to be back to book stuff!
And here I thought you were gonna go a Howland Reed direction with it. I'd still pit that as my second best guess, bit I'll say, you've got my first slow over to Ed. It fits in a nice, simple way.
Maybe Guesses #1 and #2 are the same? Aemon is Bloodraven's accomplice? He pretended to be neutral to Sam so no one would think he would do it. Actually, Aemon receiving information from Bloodraven is also an explanation on why Aemon knows about the Sphinix Riddle.
One could say that options 1 & 3 are not mutually exclusive and that Dolores Edd could have been the unknown accomplice.
Q&A: Ok, Preston I don't understand something. You said the Wall is like a barrier for skinchangers: Jon had been separated from Ghost when they were on the opposite side of it. But you said the skinchanger who had controlled the raven could have been Bloodraven as well.
So, can we cross out him?
HELL YA! my favorite channel posts again!
Your use of the phrase “raven tenders” made me hungry.
Finally been waiting months for this !!! Preston you are bae
I think this is Preston's way of boosting views for parts 1 and 2. I at least need to go back and rewatch the earlier installments.
I think your conclusion is probably correct, but I don't believe that Aemon was opposed to manipulating the election. Certainly, his words indicate that: (a) the brothers are the electorate and whoever they elect in the end is the one he will serve; and (b) he could not "be seen to favor one contender over another". Regarding (a), that's obvious - but it doesn't imply that he can't act in a way that convinces them to elect his favored candidate. As for (b), it's merely a matter of appearance - that he can't *be seen* influencing the election, not that he can't actually manipulate things behind the scenes.
JACOBS IN AN OPEN FIELD NED!
only a fool would meet Preston in open field
GODS I WAS JACOBS THEN!
+gorlack2231 They don't tell you how they all downvote in the end, they leave that part out of the comments..
+R. R. Reus I warned Carmine but he didn't want to listen well listen now, I want him flagged him and that fool PRESTON both
Sorry for poking into your comments here, but for those of us that don't frequent the Reddit forums very often, what's the deal with all this flagrant flagging. I know the back story on what went down, at least as much as was talked about on Carmine's interview with Preston. But as a SERIOUS fan (Patreon supporter of both sides) why is flagging appropriate in this situation? Serious question from a guy that knows nothing of the inner workings of UA-cam. It seems very petty to me, childish almost. It just seems to me that the people who get hurt the most are the fans (or should I say us small folk not interested in the struggles between the Lords of UA-cam and Reddit) when a site gets flagged.
I was waiting for this video for 2 years
tin foil theory but I think that when Aemon died he warged into Mormont's raven, he did die far away from it, but Arya could warg from that distance, and he is a targaryan , maybe he used to the bird to influence Mormont the whole time, maybe a lot of maesters do that
Hey Preston would you make a video the succession crisis in casterly rock like the frey civil war one
Why does small Paul sound like Patrick from SBSP or Tom Cullen in The Stand? 6:35
Finally a new theory video! I hope we'll get them more often again, have enough of got for now!
I actually gasped in excitement when I saw this notification
Bran. From the future. Having learnt that is really hard to influence people through the visions (as the wind, or the sound of leaves) he has gone to the logical next step: using animals and ever-so-slightly influenced people. That's why everything is so custom-made for Jon. Bran knows him well. As to who was the one who got the raven there... my money's on Aemon/Edd. I had not even though about Ed previously, but once again you have my acceptance. Gorgeous work.
My issue with it being Aemon is wouldn't he be too weak to lift the heavy lid of the kettle pot?
Unless *he* was skin-changed. Ha!
@@made-line7627 Like Aria faceless men skin-changed? I don't think warg skin-changing can grant extra strength.
Ser Denys Mallister might be the Bloodraven ally at the wall. He's one of the oldest, of high birth, doesnt mind bastards, he would certainly know mormont's Raveb, and he knew john was going to be nominated
Hmmmm. Could well be
Scheme of the half hand? If it's mentioned that Halfhand is working w Tormund and Mance, I'll be so excited!
That next topic is gonna be FIIIRE!
Cant wait
Good video, I enjoyed it. Hope we get the Sandkings soon!
Brilliant as always
Can’t wait for the next one. I’m excited to hear it
As always well played. As he stuffs the kettle, "it'll probably get Lord snow killed." oh well. Ours is not to wonder.
I forgot I was waiting for this.
Ayei thought you gave up on this series! So happy
Aemon was working with Bloodraven all along.
I like the idea of Bloodraven having agents, to me Aemon would make sense as he is a cousin to Bloodraven and they have both lived so long. As well both have been outspoken about prophecies concerning the return of dragons. Perhaps Aemon should have been promoted to Archmeaster but refused it himself rather than been ignored as Marwen had said, on the advise of Bloodraven
Aemon is his nephew,great nephew actually, not cousin
why do you do this to me .. you make me examine and re read everything . I read a book first really fast then if I like. I re-read paying great detail. As you have pointed out it's the smallest lines that said in passing that could be the key . thanks Preston
Yeay! I had a feeling you would go with Edd, though I wish you said more about Sweet Donnel Hill. He is an interesting character. Well, there's always next time.
Preston Jacobs: the ASOIAF Sherlock Holmes
4:00 it doesn't seem brazen, it seems like exactly what someone who wanted to interfere with an election without looking like you're interfering would do
Finally it's up!!
*"I've been sitting here for daaaaaaaaays!!!!!"*
I've spent weeks waiting for part 3, trying to anticipate your suspects identity, because I knew you'd lay a total omg moment on us with a crazy, out of left field suspect, and as usual, you did not disappointed. Kinda feel embarrassed I never considered Edd. Absolutely the most likely pick outside of the more obvious names. But I think you're wrong. I have the same reasons as you do for Aemon being the guilty party. Where we differ is in interpretation of Aemon's personal feelings about a Maester's role in such a contentious election. Certainly the most important election for Lord Commander since Bloodraven, which I'll add was likely Aemon's first. Plus we don't know if the previous Maester was dead before Aemon arrived, or if he had time to work with Aemon before dying. Who knows what advice he'd give Aemon about a Maesters duty to the NW at a time where the brothers are so divided that it threatens the very existence of the NW (eh hem Stannis). What I'm saying is while Aemon truly believes appearing impartial is his duty, but actually being impartial and helping to guide the process in a way that will save the NW, may be the one duty he considers to be above all else. How better to save the watch by convincing everyone, even Sam, who's basically his son by this time, that he doesn't care who wins. I doubt manipulating Sam to achieve the preferred outcome would pose even a minor challenge to Aemon, not to mention the possibility he is working with Bloodraven on some level, or simply fell asleep in moonlight and is BRs proxy without even knowing. Btw my number 2 guess involves the moon, dreams, and Sam who's well known to certain leaders north of the Wall. Practically a Preston Jacobs specialty ain't it lol Whatever the answer I don't expect it to involve more than Sam or Aemon. But omg I do wish it is Edd. That's a story I'd pay to hear. Ty again for this channel. You do great work and greatness is never easy!
I think it was ameon, he believes is profecy and is an tageryan. That makes him an perfect spy for blodraven, he could just send him a dream about the wall falling if jon isn't elected. (Damn I can never remember how to spell Asoiaf names:D)
i am saddend by the fact i have watched all of Preston's content why cant all other GOTubers be as good as him
finally! now we wait for the sansa chapter and part 2 of the season 7 fanfiction
And the ten part series on Mormont’s raven.
And an analysis of the GNC.
And a discussion of the Tyrells and the Reach.
Blame @glidus for leading me here, daddy Preston
Hey, Preston How's your book The Dreams of Ghosts and Indians coming along?
It'll be out in 5 years
I'm hoping it's complex enough so we can all create as many crazy theories and UA-cam videos.
+Chris Inwood What would make it better is if George R.R. Martin started doing theories on Preston's book. We would go full circle.
i was waiting for this hehehhehe
Can't wait for the series on Jon and Gerold Hightower!
Many of the Raven's Teeth came to the wall with Bloodraven, some of them could still be there, and be acting as his accomplice.
PJ. You're back!!!
Your videos always make my day
"Next we'll talk about Halfhand"
YES FUCKING YES.
Halfhand was the most interesting and peculiar character in ACoK, I can't wait to hear more about him.
Nice, thank you very much.
Aemon is 100 year old blind man. He would have needed an accomplice
The Raven was an accomplice. It all pans out!
I would also assert Owen the Oaf as a possible accomplice to the skinchanger. You mentioned that the skinchanger could communicate through dreams and the only nights watch member we know to be receiving some form of “prophetic” visions (that have fully come to fruition) is Owen the oaf with his dream of stannis crushing the assault on the wall.
Dolorous edd and Owen are definitely my top two suspects for putting mormonts raven in the kettle
Your video editing is improving, Preston!
Thx i really enjoyed yer analysis
plot twist: Aemon warged into Sam to make him talk to Pyke and Mallister, and Aemon warged into Mormont's raven during the vote
Maybe the raven was in the kettle when someone of the nights watch not knowing it was inside put the heavy lid on
And we are back!!!!
6:31 How likely is it for Small Paul to be a Duncan descendant?
It has to be melisandre ,the clues are in the previous chapter when she burned the eagle/ orell .If she can do that she is capable of putting the raven bird in the kettle possibly of a vision in the flame .
Let's break out the popcorn, it's preston time
Anyone else get hungry every time Preston said "raven-tender"?
2:16 Clydas looks just like old Sam. They look like the same person 40 years apart
Thrilled about the Qhorin series, been wondering about that for a while, everytime I go for a reread of ASOIAF Qhorin's actions(and words) always seems more and more suspicious to me
The last theory video I watched, I was 2000 miles ways. I'm sooo ready
The wait is over for part 3!
I can see why this took so long. interesting to see a mystery laid at dolorous ed's feet, he's an oft named character but seems to do fairly little, maybe he's azhor ahai reborn :p
thank you babe !!
Isn't skinchanging over the wall supposed to not work?
Waiting for this was like waiting for The Winds of Winter.
There is another option though. I don't recall much about the kettle, I'll admit, but isn't it also possible that someone opened the kettle for a different purpose and then the raven flew into it and the person didn't notice and closed it? Black bird and black kettle. Inattentive dude. In fact, you could even make this part of Bloodraven's plan if you wanted. Bloodraven gives some Night's Watch dude a dream which motivates them to open the kettle.
thanks for the post but aemon says it would not be proper to be SEEN to be partisan
Thanks preston!
I always figured it was Aemon who put the raven in the kettle and just said what he said to throw off any suspicion.
I also never interperated the raven as a skinchangeling, just a talking bird that liked Jon since he was close to Mormont.
What about Melisandre? Was she at the wall at that time, I can't remember! The books and tv show gets muddled in my head!
Maybe the raven snuck in after the last vote and whoever put the lid on didn't notice the dark bird in the shadows of the kettle's belly. Maybe the raven Jedi'd someone into doing it.
Great analysis, but - in my opinion - wrong conclusion. Of the 3 options you presented at the end, both 1# and 2# are correct: it was Aemon Targaryen, and he is also in league with Bloodraven. You say there is no clue for an accomplice to Bloodraven? Yes there is, Aemon was the one who took Bloodraven with him to the wall, after Aegon V was made king. IF Bloodraven has a human ally on the wall, of all the characters who are still alive, it would be Aemon.
Two more clues: if you took Aemons serious with his "I'd never", you fall for his "old, blind man"-shtick. He is more calculation. Plus, if we already established that Mormont's raven is being warged, why would you relie on someone who has no knowledge of set warging (Edd) to put him in the kettle? It's more likely you would turn to someone who knows you are being warged, and again Aemon is more likely to know that.
I always liked the idea of Aemon placing the bird, but Edd is another great idea!
So if Aemon was supposedly neutral, couldn't his mind have been altered with? Similarly how Jon changed his mind when Ghost was around. As we've seen a bunch of times in the story?