Did Riize Copy NewJeans Lightstick? (G)i-dle Soyeon Neglecting Fans? IVE "Heya" Choreo Criticism...

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  • Опубліковано 7 чер 2024
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    Welcome to another episode of my totally legit Kpop news show, where we talk about all the recent juicy kpop ongoings! Today we're taking a look Riize’s new lightstick and whether it’s similar to NewJeans’ lightstick, Le Sserafim’s alleged Japanese symbolism in their content, IVE “Heya” chores criticism and more!
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    TIMESTAMPS
    0:00 Riize Copied NewJeans Lightstick?
    3:13 Le Sserafim ‘Japanese Propaganda’
    8:21 ILLIT “Lucky Girl Syndrome” Plagiarism?
    10:39 IVE “Heya” Choreography Criticism
    11:51 Seventeen Album Sales
    13:51 (G)i-dle Soyeon Neglecting Fans?
    17:00 The Mingyu Banner Situation
    18:06 My Kpop Dream
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 373

  • @RC-43
    @RC-43 Місяць тому +260

    Bro… it really doesn’t matter if light sticks look like hearts from far away. Is it the same up close? No. I’m not even a Riize fan, but this shit is tiring

    • @romi-ok4ts
      @romi-ok4ts Місяць тому +11

      two lightsticks with a U-shaped light don't look the same? the only difference is that SM put the globe around it lol but this is very expected from SM after all they paid a company to specifically keep up with everything NJ related and study every single thing they do

    • @anti_cactus
      @anti_cactus Місяць тому +46

      ​@@romi-ok4ts 💀💀NJ didn't invent the heart light stick. SNSD, black pink, etc. have the light sticks glow to be hearts in the dark🤷🏻‍♀️

    • @dislike4889
      @dislike4889 Місяць тому

      @@romi-ok4tsofc u NJ fans with the toxic mindset will say this, riize’s lightstick literally looks so ugly so u’re saying NJ’s lighstick is ugly too.Riize’s actual lightstick was the finger pointing upwards, so SM just made the new lightstick without much thought, even as a briize I find the new lighstick ugly & it really looks like a shrimp. NJ fans competing to be the most toxic, delusional, ridiculous 🤡 fandom, Istg u all have💩 in that brain of urs.

    • @rssxwq
      @rssxwq Місяць тому +29

      @@romi-ok4tsso now we are gatekeeping shapes? nj one is bunny when riize one is just stars around their name

    • @averyatwell95
      @averyatwell95 Місяць тому +17

      ​@@romi-ok4ts lol what? Hybe is the one obsessed with SM.

  • @hyunjinismybias_119
    @hyunjinismybias_119 Місяць тому +387

    ATP Lesserafim has become kpops new punching bag the hate against them really needs to stop

    • @TokkiLoocaa
      @TokkiLoocaa Місяць тому +9

      Fr

    • @Sherluck93
      @Sherluck93 Місяць тому +3

      So, how?

    • @ayoayo1044
      @ayoayo1044 Місяць тому +17

      Lesseraffim and ILLIT

    • @hyunjinismybias_119
      @hyunjinismybias_119 Місяць тому +9

      @@ayoayo1044 I agree they dont deserve this hate at all and what happend to lesserafim at Coachella the critisam turnd into hate and the whole illit situation is just skinning

    • @Sherluck93
      @Sherluck93 Місяць тому +1

      @_.-jq1ps My questions was how do you plan to deal with it?

  • @J4keobs33ed
    @J4keobs33ed Місяць тому +60

    Riize, Illit, and Le sserafim are literally the punching bags of K-pop give them a rest

    • @AusOpening
      @AusOpening Місяць тому

      and so they should be ! who knew that actions would comes with consequences ?

    • @victoriah4648
      @victoriah4648 29 днів тому +5

      @@AusOpening Genuinely touch some grass, bro

    • @J4keobs33ed
      @J4keobs33ed 29 днів тому +5

      @@AusOpening Why should they get hate? Other than LE sserafim and Illit live vocals? Using Live vocals to hate them is now an excuse for y’all to keep hating on them like that’s not feedback that’s straight up hating

    • @KpopOpinionator
      @KpopOpinionator 28 днів тому +1

      ​@@AusOpeningIf u don't like their live singing , don't listen to them
      Nowadys 5th gen groups are being hated as if they wiped off a country off earth .

  • @TheCrewRoxRoblox
    @TheCrewRoxRoblox Місяць тому +207

    the riize lightstick looks nothing like the newjeans one...honestly...let riize breathe and leave them alone

    • @user-tokki80
      @user-tokki80 Місяць тому +20

      Yeah, it looks like a shrimp😅😅😅

    • @AminataJallow-qk1iq
      @AminataJallow-qk1iq Місяць тому +15

      Say it louder for the people at the back like these people are so obsessed with riize copied newjeans at this point they need to stop🙄🙄🙄🙄

    • @romi-ok4ts
      @romi-ok4ts Місяць тому +2

      and yet they both have a U-shaped light. made specifically so that it'll look like a heart. after SM was exposed for hiring a company to keep up with everything NJ related. sure.

    • @BabyDanny_
      @BabyDanny_ Місяць тому +10

      Like honestly 😭 they’ve been getting set up since they came out, like LEAVE THEM ALONEEEE

    • @Tell_Me_To_Study
      @Tell_Me_To_Study Місяць тому

      @@romi-ok4ts Blackpink's lighstick is a heart. SNSD has a lighstick shaped like a heart as well, and New Jeans weren't even a thing back when SNSD debuted. Riize's lighstick looks nothing like NJ's so if you wanna play toxic bunny be my guest bitch.

  • @Lady_bugg9316
    @Lady_bugg9316 Місяць тому +133

    New Jeans fans are on one fr. Its seriously getting so old the amount of times they have accused someone of copying them. They need to get over themselves.

    • @averagekpopfannnn
      @averagekpopfannnn Місяць тому +6

      The fact that yall r falling for that is so sad

    • @Lady_bugg9316
      @Lady_bugg9316 Місяць тому +23

      @averagekpopfannnn I've seen them myself talk about the littlest things (saying red velvet copied them for making bag versions of an album). Now, this one is a reach for sure, but I wouldn't put it past them.

    • @averagekpopfannnn
      @averagekpopfannnn Місяць тому +1

      @@Lady_bugg9316 whatever helps u sleep at night 😄

    • @Cherrrryyyy878
      @Cherrrryyyy878 Місяць тому

      F u? Why newjeans.. It's probably those stupid toxic bunnies.. Don't bring newjeans

    • @bk-ne6wt
      @bk-ne6wt Місяць тому +3

      @@Lady_bugg9316but rv did copied newjeans lmao there weren’t any album bags in kpop sorry to break it to you

  • @rosefulmadness
    @rosefulmadness Місяць тому +228

    the le sserafim thing is so ridiculous what 💀

    • @kurokurt5477
      @kurokurt5477 Місяць тому +13

      100% creativity 0% brain

    • @Deamon_pox101
      @Deamon_pox101 Місяць тому +14

      At this point whatever they do gets them hate 🤦‍♀️

  • @aliciaavendano2194
    @aliciaavendano2194 Місяць тому +46

    New jeans fans are slowly becoming one of the most toxic fandoms in kpop... seriously, i don't know if MHJ is paying them or what 😂 jk, but they need to stop

    • @AusOpening
      @AusOpening Місяць тому

      SM spend $$ studying Newjeans so that effort had to go somewhere, First it was the phoning app, then ditto MV with the pletora of similarities, then portugual (uncommon place for kpop group to film), then this lightick. At this point you can't say it's just inspiration. But hey, let them copy, bc at the end of the day imitation is the sincerest form of flattery !

    • @aliciaavendano2194
      @aliciaavendano2194 Місяць тому +2

      @@AusOpening 🙄 go be annoying somewhere else

    • @mikkaill93
      @mikkaill93 26 днів тому

      @@AusOpening what a silly rabbit 😂

  • @justinehercthehuman
    @justinehercthehuman Місяць тому +184

    I'm not even a stan but ffs, LET RIIZE BREATHE! Tf?

    • @kpop.luvx.143
      @kpop.luvx.143 Місяць тому +29

      I‘m literally so sorry for the rookies like the ones that like just debuted like omg they’re getting attacked already 😭

    • @justinehercthehuman
      @justinehercthehuman Місяць тому +9

      @@kpop.luvx.143 right? It's so crazy hahaha.

    • @tansbizarreadventure
      @tansbizarreadventure Місяць тому +17

      no frrr all these kids are being treated so horribly like this is not fun anymore

    • @kpop.luvx.143
      @kpop.luvx.143 Місяць тому +7

      Fr like half of them are minors having to deal with those shat situations not even really knowing how to handle them like bro-

    • @AminataJallow-qk1iq
      @AminataJallow-qk1iq Місяць тому +13

      I know right I'm a fan and this is so annoying like these so called netizens are so obsessed with this Riize copied newjeans agenda seriously it's so annoying

  • @TomsMusicCorner
    @TomsMusicCorner Місяць тому +39

    The copy accusations even go so far as to say that long black hair is now unique to NJ (compared to Illit).
    Yeah but actually the Riize lightstick reminds me of the shrimp salad I ate Friday (scnr xD).
    So speaking of hypersensitive kpoopies.... LS now has what IVE had before - a massive hate train. This will pass. Just sit it out and don't start arguing. That saves nerves. Just send them some supportive messages if you can. It helps more than fighting with kids.

    • @romi-ok4ts
      @romi-ok4ts Місяць тому +2

      except ive can sing so they cleared their name quickly, meanwhile le riggedfim has been dragged for their vocals since debut.

    • @TomsMusicCorner
      @TomsMusicCorner Місяць тому +3

      @@romi-ok4ts it was actually not about the singing ability (apart from the Strawberry Moon situation, which was never in their hands, because *producers* usually decide whether lipsyncing is necessary or not) but more about favoritsm, how to eat a strawberry etc.

    • @AusOpening
      @AusOpening Місяць тому

      SM spend $$ studying Newjeans so that effort had to go somewhere, First it was the phoning app, then ditto MV with the pletora of similarities, then portugual (uncommon place for kpop group to film), then this lightick. At this point you can't say it's just inspiration. But hey, let them copy, bc at the end of the day imitation is the sincerest form of flattery !

    • @TomsMusicCorner
      @TomsMusicCorner Місяць тому +2

      @@AusOpening Do you know where MHJ comes from? xD
      We actually only talked about the heart chaped light, when you switch on the light stick and look at it from the stage. I mean, it's a heart, the most common thing to express their love, right? As if could someone have the copyright on it (you have to go way back into kpop history to find the first one who looks like that). Unfortunately the most unique light stick is somehow useless now because Cherry Bullet disbanded. At least I have one 🔫

  • @terrell835
    @terrell835 Місяць тому +33

    the light stick thing is quite literally the stupidest thing i’ve ever heard, can we be real

    • @moluccensis
      @moluccensis  Місяць тому +1

      Riize Accused of Copying NewJeans Lightstick

  • @koikoi485
    @koikoi485 Місяць тому +67

    look at seventeen's schedule last year. I mean they had the biggest year ever and their company didn't let them step outside of Asia. In an interview, Dino said his hyungs have big dreams like going to Grammy etc so I thought okay they might have plans to promote but Pledis really said ok let's not do that. Also no ads on their recent comeback with no premier is making my blood boil.

    • @samseungg
      @samseungg Місяць тому +6

      i’ve seen an ad for maestro, but it sucks that they aren’t going to events like grammys or vmas like they deserve to

    • @slythea
      @slythea Місяць тому +8

      😂 I literally got the maestro ad in this video, and if you search Seventeen the ad is flagged at the top of the page too, which means it's still active, including all over shorts too. They ARE being promoted to the ones that are not their public

    • @cypressxsg4815
      @cypressxsg4815 Місяць тому +3

      Did they received an invite to the grammy's?. Just curious

    • @minhmeo5010
      @minhmeo5010 Місяць тому +1

      Maybe the sales in China are good? China is actually a huge market so it could be possible that they contribute to this

    • @_17Carat_
      @_17Carat_ Місяць тому

      how could they when there r 0 promotion s​@@cypressxsg4815

  • @aloeveralover4832
    @aloeveralover4832 Місяць тому +17

    bunnies r the new toxic blinks...

  • @Enhacoreee
    @Enhacoreee Місяць тому +14

    CAN WE JUST LE SSERAFIM ALONE! HATE TRAIN AGAINST THEM IS SO FORCED!! ALSO ILLIT TOO, THEY JUST DEBUTED AND PEOPLE ARE HATING THEMOR NO REASON! THIS ISN'T FIRST TIME THAT A K-POP SONG IS SIMILAR TOO A POP SONG OR SOMETHING.

    • @J4keobs33ed
      @J4keobs33ed Місяць тому +5

      Le sserafim, Riize, and Illit are literally punching bags in Kpop rn and Illit and Riize have been ever since debute they need to give them a rest I love all of their songs but these Knetz, etc need to stop and these Toxic Bunnies/Tokkis need to stop accusing groups of copying Newjeans

  • @tlotli_u
    @tlotli_u Місяць тому +96

    nahh bunnies need to take a nap and hopefully come back to reality when they wake up or touch grass or something bcs ain't no way

    • @AminataJallow-qk1iq
      @AminataJallow-qk1iq Місяць тому +16

      Exactly I don't know what's with their obsession with Riize for real

    • @averagekpopfannnn
      @averagekpopfannnn Місяць тому +8

      ⁠@@AminataJallow-qk1iqyall r falling for this so easily 💀 it’s not even bunnies who r saying that ur just falling for obv rage bait

    • @markigirl2757
      @markigirl2757 Місяць тому +8

      @@averagekpopfannnn both could be true tho a bunny could be using ragebait but well never know bc we cant read the mind of whoever wrote it to begin with lolololo

    • @Zhanghaosblondehair
      @Zhanghaosblondehair Місяць тому +7

      @@averagekpopfannnn if it’s not bunnies then who? Accept that they are being toxic. This is literally like their third time accusing RII7E. More than three times and y’all tryna tell us it’s not bunnies? Every fandom is toxic wether you like it or not and y’all are not the purest ones out there.

    • @averagekpopfannnn
      @averagekpopfannnn Місяць тому

      @@Zhanghaosblondehair literally click on the profiles of ppl acusing and you’ll see there not even bunnies, most r just bait

  • @MidnightBard
    @MidnightBard Місяць тому +54

    I always thought the blackpink light stick was a hammer 🤣

    • @duck8049
      @duck8049 Місяць тому +5

      Omg it’s not 😭😭😭💀??

    • @-Desire
      @-Desire Місяць тому +19

      ​@@duck8049 It's a hammer with hearts on each end, a heart hammer!

    • @romi-ok4ts
      @romi-ok4ts Місяць тому +9

      but it is! YG lightsticks are known for using weapons/tools as inspo.

    • @anngleeson4736
      @anngleeson4736 Місяць тому +1

      It is its called hammer bong

  • @ash-dl8ff
    @ash-dl8ff Місяць тому +70

    that le sserafim story is entering delulu-level cope from k-netz, omg

  • @kheii3503
    @kheii3503 Місяць тому +17

    Honestly all this Nj stans or whatever are literally making me so freaking mad, like some of them sound as they are the ones that invented everything 🙄 and with Lesserafim it's just so stupid like it's sounding so much like a conspiracy theory and people getting brainwashed with subliminal messages wth. Can we stop putting the responsibility on the groups as if they have control over that kind of stuff 😮‍💨
    Edit: Also, what's with the obsession over Illit? Like if you don't like them, you can stop commenting about them every chance you can

    • @averagekpopfannnn
      @averagekpopfannnn Місяць тому +1

      The only reason ur mad is bc u fell for rage bait 💀 bunnies aren’t the ones acusing..

    • @NISHI121
      @NISHI121 Місяць тому +3

      ​@@averagekpopfannnn the fact that you are there on every fre@king comment saying "those weren't even bunnies" is so funny tho.. Like bro get a grip we all have seen bunnies harassing every idol in existence

    • @AusOpening
      @AusOpening Місяць тому +1

      SM spend $$ studying Newjeans so that effort had to go somewhere, First it was the phoning app, then ditto MV with the pletora of similarities, then portugual (uncommon place for kpop group to film), then this lightick. At this point you can't say it's just inspiration. But hey, let them copy, bc at the end of the day imitation is the sincerest form of flattery !

    • @averagekpopfannnn
      @averagekpopfannnn 29 днів тому

      @@NISHI121 u cannot be talking bro

  • @AN_XI
    @AN_XI Місяць тому +16

    Nah, the lightstick issue is just stupid, and people just need to go out and touch some grass. I'm not even a fan of both groups, but Tokkis or Kpop stans in general, are too funny about this if they think this is a big deal. The theory they have on Lesserafim is definitely a reach and with the plagiarism on Illit song, doesn't really sound the same even if a couple seconds of the beginning sound similar.

    • @averagekpopfannnn
      @averagekpopfannnn Місяць тому

      The fact that it’s not even bunnies accusing? 💀

    • @ashley247891
      @ashley247891 Місяць тому +1

      @@averagekpopfannnnthat’s a lie because there was multiple bunnies in the quotes of that tweet

    • @averagekpopfannnn
      @averagekpopfannnn 29 днів тому

      @@ashley247891 whatever helps u sleep at night 🥰

  • @VilmaMks
    @VilmaMks Місяць тому +27

    Tf? Shrimps and hearts aren't the same. I've seen dumb shit everywhere, but Bunnies are just something different...

  • @leto8017
    @leto8017 Місяць тому +84

    Not sakuras face somehow resembling a literal island… 🤦‍♀️

  • @KpopUnniesUwU
    @KpopUnniesUwU Місяць тому +40

    SNSD, KISS KF LIFE, YENA, BLACKPINK (HAMMER WITH HEARTS ON SIDE) also have Hearts shape! Then are NWJNS took inspire by them?!

    • @din.i
      @din.i Місяць тому

      Newjeans had their light stick earlier than KOF

    • @TomsMusicCorner
      @TomsMusicCorner Місяць тому +5

      @@din.i who cares? and the short form of their name is KIOF

    • @cvntseokstanxhz
      @cvntseokstanxhz Місяць тому

      @@TomsMusicCornerah yes, Kiss Of.

  • @TokkiLoocaa
    @TokkiLoocaa Місяць тому +75

    Bunnies/kpop stans are embarrassing its no way yall really think they look alike. And nwjs dont own a heart shaped lightstick snsd is who really started it..

    • @Niniz3333
      @Niniz3333 Місяць тому +4

      Do you realise not all bunnies and also some fans from different fandoms 💀

    • @TokkiLoocaa
      @TokkiLoocaa Місяць тому +17

      @PeachySquare on twt I only see bunnies 😐( I'm also a bunnie no hate to my girls) it's the fandom that's making a big deal of literally fking nothing.

    • @sonexcarat99
      @sonexcarat99 Місяць тому +16

      I’m an SM’s stand and also a Bunnie. I didn’t hear this copy accusation for lightstick until now. Toxic fans should shut up and let their idols breathe 🫠

    • @TokkiLoocaa
      @TokkiLoocaa Місяць тому +4

      @sonexcarat99 thank u. this is what I'm saying! toxic stan just want to spread hate on to these idols

    • @ayomide8104
      @ayomide8104 Місяць тому +1

      Honestly

  • @kpop.luvx.143
    @kpop.luvx.143 Місяць тому +89

    Sooo to the soyeon thing.. I mean I’d be mad too if I’d pay for something for literally NOTHING but I wouldn’t really leave the fandom just like be a little “mad”?? I MEAN I LOVE SOYEON BUT LIKE I GET THE NEVERLANDS THAT ARE MAD TOO 😭😭

    • @lovedrinkingchai
      @lovedrinkingchai Місяць тому +21

      Fans are allowed to get mad if they don’t get what they have paid for but at the same time, like you said leaving a fandom for something like this sounds very childish. If fans think she isn’t giving them what they’ve paid for then they can simply cancel the subscription instead of leaving the fandom. That’s why I never pay for anything like this as I’m still in college and don’t want to waste my parents money on things like this. I usually enjoy and support artists in other free ways.

    • @kpop.luvx.143
      @kpop.luvx.143 Місяць тому +6

      @@lovedrinkingchai Fr like there are many alternatives like on X or smth were they upload the posts and also like Angelina said in the video gi-dle are mostly popular bc of soyeon cuz she’s literally the only reason + gi-dle why Cube isn’t running out of money 💀 (sry if there is other groups being successful in cube I js don’t know them I don’t mean to harm anyone rn tho !!

    • @HappyBirthday-lf4ud
      @HappyBirthday-lf4ud Місяць тому +7

      But isn't paying optional though? If they knew Soyeon wouldn't interact much, shouldn't have they cancel their subscription and stuff?

    • @lovedrinkingchai
      @lovedrinkingchai Місяць тому +1

      @@kpop.luvx.143 so true without Soyeon there will be no Gi-dle and without Gi-dle CUBE will be on streets. Other members are talented and hardworking too but Soyeon is the mastermind of everything. That women is busy leader and a hardworking and dedicated women when it comes to her group. Maybe that’s why she isn’t online because she’s constantly working on new things/ projects for her group. But I hope the fans who paid for subscription will get a reply or at least an explanation from Soyeon herself to why she isn’t active in that platform.
      Edit: There were many groups under CUBE who were successful at some point but because of CUBE’S mismanagement and mistreatment of their groups/ idols some have disbanded, some artist left, there are still some active groups but they aren’t as successful or popular as Gi-dle.

    • @kpop.luvx.143
      @kpop.luvx.143 Місяць тому +8

      @@HappyBirthday-lf4ud yeah but like they probably didn’t know or for example on gi-dles anniversary fans hoped that she’d at least post like “happy 6th anniversary” or smth like this but she didn’t I would be sad but I definitely would have some understanding like THAT WOMAN IS WORKING ALMOST LIKE 24/7 FOR THE GROUP AND CUBE ATP GI-DLE SHOULD BE UNDER SOYEONS OWN LABEL 😭😭 (im not harming anyone with this comment it’s just my opinion:) )

  • @LouellaBelle
    @LouellaBelle Місяць тому +16

    I feel like MHJ's constant barrage of examples of 'original' ideas that other groups have stolen doesn't illustrate anything besides how vague her acclaimed original ideas are and how easily duplicated they are.
    Just reframe that the company of the idol who popularized the 🫰said "THAT'S OUR PERSONAL BRAND. NONE OF YOU ARE ALLOWED TO COPY US!" And started announcing every idol who used it and how much it was a copy of their original idea.
    I think New Jeans have paved a new path that people are leaning into, like all trends. I think they have a right to be proud of their image and their brand that they have created and fine tuned. However, if that's the point MHJ wants to make, there are better ways than calling out anything, even remotely similar to the group as plagiarism.

    • @-Desire
      @-Desire Місяць тому +7

      You hit the nail right on the head! Now more delusional fans that like to conflate their idols with themselves want to call out everything even similar, forgetting or not knowing that everything we do as humans is cyclical and reminiscent of other things and are watering down the actual meaning of plagiarism!

    • @kheii3503
      @kheii3503 Місяць тому +8

      100% agreed. I mean, I even heard they used a similar concept to a song by a japanese group called Speed, so I don't understand their constant "I made this, and it's mine" thing going on while claiming others copied whats theirs.

  • @louiserosado4389
    @louiserosado4389 Місяць тому +20

    So RIIZE copied the ESSENCE of a LIGHTSTICK? Did I heard that correctly?? 🤦🏻‍♀️🤦🏻‍♀️

  • @faeriegraver
    @faeriegraver Місяць тому +22

    Because of the way music works, with there only being so many notes, and pop music tending to use certain chords and time signatures more often than not, it's only natural that melodies will naturally occur in different pieces of music.
    It doesn't mean it's plagiarism.
    In this case, the two songs have very similar melodies, but fit into different genres.
    I think the case against the song "Blurred Lines" set a dangerous precedent. If people were to start copyrighting a melody, or a chord progression, for example, there is only a finite number of these things essentially a songwriter could "claim" something as "theirs" and then anyone who used it before could claim it, and it would repeat and nobody would be able to use it without giving credit and royalties.
    A lot of these cases are incredibly vague. "Dark Horse" by Katy Perry had a similar sounding but not identical series of just a handful of notes to an underground Christian rap record. Initially she lost the case but it was overturned on appeal. That one was particularly bad, because it was a song so obscure that the writers of "Dark Horse" almost certainly hadn't heard it, it was only a couple of notes and they weren't even the same exact notes, and they had a similar vibe.
    Olivia Rodrigo had to give credits and share royalties for more than one song, after she'd mentioned that she was inspired by the artists. People pointed out similarities between her song "Brutal" and an Elvis Costello song, but he said that he didn't have a problem with it, and that's how music works. He's right. Things like melodies will repeat naturally. People who make music are going to be inspired by other artists and their influences may be recognisable, but that doesn't make it plagiarism.
    TL;DR: people are way too quick to claim plagiarism these days. Patterns in music occur naturally, including things like melodies, and chord progressions. This isn't plagiarism. As there is only so many notes in music, there is a finite number of combinations of notes.

    • @it.comes.around
      @it.comes.around Місяць тому +1

      Thank you! If Tom Petty and Pete Townshed can acknowledge that there are only so many chords in music, particularly in the same pop-like genre that most of these songs fall in, then a bunch of us musically illiterate kpop fans can too. There are cases of straight rip-offs and stealing out there, but we focus on this? So toxic.

    • @faeriegraver
      @faeriegraver 29 днів тому +1

      Yeah it's ultimately mostly down to online toxicity. With a bit of ignorance thrown in.
      Most popular songs are in 4/4. There are four chords that are frequently used in pop music, to the point there's parody songs pointing out the similarities.
      "Look What You Made Me Do" by Taylor Swift had the same melody as "I'm Too Sexy" by Right Said Fred. I think she even gave a songwriting credit for it, even though I don't believe she was asked.
      "Somebody To Love" by Lewis Capaldi has the same melody as that numa numa song. I don't believe he gave credit for that, and I don't think he should have. They might have the same melody but they're too very different songs.
      It's the same in this case. The ILLIT song and the example have a very similar melody, for one part of the song. That's the only similarity.
      People are way to quick to call plagiarism when it doesn't even make sense, I feel like, unfortunately, in a lot of cases people just want to jump on a hate train. @@it.comes.around

  • @gdfgdhhfghat
    @gdfgdhhfghat Місяць тому +15

    18:57 Minnie and Yuqi litteraly just had a collab in her solo album (waiting for that chung ha let it go cover)❤

    • @Random1nations
      @Random1nations Місяць тому +1

      And then they released a music video today! Angelina definitely predicted something so Chungha is definitely serving Ice Queen next comeback

  • @tansbizarreadventure
    @tansbizarreadventure Місяць тому +50

    kpop is not a safe space for female idols, all these ggs are getting beat tf down for no reason. these companies need to step up their protections or just stop debuting them

    • @sehbasareen6669
      @sehbasareen6669 Місяць тому +17

      Guess who is hating on these ggs? The fandoms of other ggs

    • @tansbizarreadventure
      @tansbizarreadventure Місяць тому +4

      @@sehbasareen6669 it’s a sad cycle and tale as old as time at this point

    • @sehbasareen6669
      @sehbasareen6669 Місяць тому +4

      ​@@tansbizarreadventure exactly when asked why they are doing this they say that the other fandom did it before so they need to get even with them it's a never ending cycle

    • @-Desire
      @-Desire Місяць тому +7

      Very true, companies also need to crack down on the haters. A lot of these people would never be able to say this to the gg members' faces and they should honestly be scared to insult human beings online too! They always hide behind criticism but real criticism isn't like most these statements

    • @minhmeo5010
      @minhmeo5010 Місяць тому

      I mean Riize is accused for their light stick too but I guess boy groups have less hate than ggs

  • @Asaph006
    @Asaph006 Місяць тому +7

    -Hybe really needs to get its shit together.
    -Illit needs a new concept.
    -Lesserafim hate needs to stop it’s not criticism at this point, it’s criticism disguised as hate and people are jumping on this boat as soon as they get a chance.
    -The double standards for boy groups and girls groups tho💀

  • @Kawaiicarly
    @Kawaiicarly Місяць тому +17

    I wish people would understand this hate train Lesserafim is receiving is not only forced, but dangerous. This is 100% affecting the members mental health, probably Sakura most of all considering I’ve seen the most hate towards her.
    I wish the kpop community would act how it talks, how often must we have the conversation of insane hate towards a specific idol or group being straight up bullying. I am convinced some kpop stans stay waiting for their next victim to throw their hate and rage at, without thinking of what it means.
    I am amazed that a group being lack luster singers has received THIS much hate. Ive been in kpop for like 12 years, there has been, are, and will be a lot of singers as mid as lesserafim. Untrained, singing songs that do not fit them, and hiding under lipsyncing and autotune. I have always been aware of what kpop is and what it offers, great singing is often not one. Performances, stage presence, visuals, dancing, and fan service is what i think of when I think of kpop, not singing.
    Its obvious people hate lesserafim for reasons other than their terrible singing, and are just using it as their excuse to bully them. I said it, y’all at this point are just bulling a group with a 17 yr old. I dont stan Lesserafim btw, I think theyre kinda mid, but I know they dont deserve whatever it is kpop stans are doing rn. I sincerely hope the members are doing okay and we don’t have any more tragedies in kpop. Please, spread love not hate.

    • @me9981
      @me9981 Місяць тому +2

      Watch out for those leserafim haters, they will kill you in the comments lmao. A few days ago I defended Sakura on a video where people bullied her even though I'm not even a fan and people attacked me... I'm a kpop fan for like 10 years now and I've seen what that kind of hate can do to people and we as fans don't even know the half of it, so we should not hate on people who we don't even know just because we dont like their singing... If they are someone like Seungri tho....then I approve lmao

  • @smalcal6365
    @smalcal6365 Місяць тому +9

    I get the soyeon one a bit. But at the same time, if ppl are unhappy with what the service is providing, they should cancel the subscription instead whining to them or giving ultimatums. I do that with streaming services, twitch streamers, etc. Im not begging them to come back or improve the quality. Cant imagine being the back bone for ur group, company, having a personal life, and having to placate ur sometimes needy fans.

  • @Sayuri8663
    @Sayuri8663 Місяць тому +10

    I'm already tired of everything about NJ, the essence of kpop goes away in these conflicts

  • @GattlingCombo
    @GattlingCombo Місяць тому +26

    Yikes, the amount of xenophobia towards Lesserafim. Whoever made those weird and kinda racist accusations about Japan needs to go outside and get some fresh air 😅.

  • @yes_hunny
    @yes_hunny Місяць тому +4

    I haven't noticed this before, but your voice is so nice to listen to! If you had a daily 3 hour-long podcast I would listen to it with no problem!!

  • @nehalilisays
    @nehalilisays Місяць тому +6

    Isn't Seventeen pretty huge in Asia? Selling 1 million albums has become normal for popular Kpop groups nowadays (because of the growth of Kpop in general, the competitive mindset of the fans and the photocard culture). So selling 5 million when you're basically (correct me if I'm wrong) the biggest active Kpop boyband at the moment doesn't seem weird to me.

  • @jacki8106
    @jacki8106 Місяць тому +5

    I love IVE so much but i felt this way about the After Like choreo, but Heya choreo is once again a series of poses. Not fun dances to learn or do. All their title tracks suffer from this to a degree.

  • @cursedwyvern3044
    @cursedwyvern3044 Місяць тому +4

    lol I’m pretty sure Seventeen have similar levels of hype as BTS, EXO, and Wanna One. Idk what that person is talking about lol

  • @gustiayu8940
    @gustiayu8940 Місяць тому +2

    Before there's "super shy" leak there's "spicy" leak but they not gate keepin em ...
    IM so tired w some of NJ fans pointing RIIZE here and there..

  • @Nikipedia0411
    @Nikipedia0411 Місяць тому +14

    Share this vid with friends you don’t have lmao she’s so real for that😭😭😭

  • @acoollittleguy
    @acoollittleguy Місяць тому +5

    le sserafim getting the blackpink 2018 treatment so baddddddd

  • @sankofa2231
    @sankofa2231 Місяць тому +31

    0:48 aren't NewJeans' lightsticks supposed to be bunny-shaped, not U-shaped?

    • @TokkiLoocaa
      @TokkiLoocaa Місяць тому +16

      It is bunnies are just trying to start stuff 🙄

    • @kpop.luvx.143
      @kpop.luvx.143 Місяць тому +5

      They’re like slightly u-shaped but it kind of looks like a half circle 😭💀

    • @averagekpopfannnn
      @averagekpopfannnn Місяць тому +1

      @@TokkiLoocaait’s not even bunnies, ur just falling for obv rage bait

    • @romi-ok4ts
      @romi-ok4ts Місяць тому

      it still looks like a U either way... just like riize's. or should we call them boyjeans?

    • @kpop.luvx.143
      @kpop.luvx.143 Місяць тому +1

      @@romi-ok4ts HAHAHA RIIZING SKIRTS 💀💀

  • @mlktss452
    @mlktss452 Місяць тому +5

    Yeah, right.... NJ created EVERYTHING. YEAH, RIGHT........👀

    • @averagekpopfannnn
      @averagekpopfannnn Місяць тому

      This is what we mean by toxic kpop Stan’s, this is why bunnies have a bad image, bc of crazy non bunnies like u

    • @narankhuunaran8113
      @narankhuunaran8113 Місяць тому +2

      😅😅😅😅😅

    • @J4keobs33ed
      @J4keobs33ed Місяць тому +5

      Fr Tokkis need to take a break and stop accusing I’m actually getting annoyed and how they are ruining K-pop for me

  • @abigailmadison7236
    @abigailmadison7236 Місяць тому +3

    RE bubble since you asked how it works
    Basically, the idol sends messages and it's sent to all the fans who subscribe. On the fans ends we only see the idols messages. It basically looks like we're texting them. The fan can send the idol a message.
    However, on the idols end they can see all the messages from all the fans. I'd compare it to a comment section. All the messages from fans are mixed into one place for the idol.
    There's a your name feature. So the idol can put goodnight (y/n) and then it will fill it in with your name so it would be "Goodnight Angelina."
    They're not actually addressing you, it's just a feature that fills in your name. Everyone gets the y/n message.
    The idols can respond to individual messages and the person who sent that message will see it. The other people will only see the idols response.
    I hope that makes sense 😭.

  • @vaanshichauhan9868
    @vaanshichauhan9868 Місяць тому +8

    RIIZE lightstick is totally different from NJ ones, seriously these toxic fans and I didn't even heard about this till i came here. Where did u get all these news??
    Moreover its looks like shrimp 🍤😂😂 and RIIZE lightstick with orange colour is really pretty❤❤❤
    And i understand why fans are angry with Soyeon,i mean at least on special occasions she could have posted

  • @EvenYouTube
    @EvenYouTube Місяць тому +2

    0:00 tbh even if it’s copied from newjeans, I don’t really care. It’s a cute design, and from up close the light sticks are totally different - so it doesn’t matter to me

  • @nstbb
    @nstbb Місяць тому +6

    Kpop fans do not understand the difference between plagiarism, interpolation or Sampling... AT ALL and it's very annoyingly embarrassing.

  • @springday3123
    @springday3123 Місяць тому +10

    Next thing they'll say the Korean language belongs to NJ and no one is allowed to sing in Korean lol

  • @justinehercthehuman
    @justinehercthehuman Місяць тому +34

    Crossing my fingers that Stray Kids have good outfits for the Met Gala cause men in plain suits are so boring.

  • @aaiisshaa8901
    @aaiisshaa8901 Місяць тому +3

    Atp any kpop group just existing is copying newjeans? 💀

  • @SpeedyNessYT
    @SpeedyNessYT Місяць тому

    Love your videos!

  • @ilovebeef18
    @ilovebeef18 Місяць тому +18

    The Le Sserafim propaganda thing is a STRETCHHH

  • @Riri-gn1of
    @Riri-gn1of Місяць тому +1

    Btw, money on bubble is given back if the idol doesn't text for a month. Soyeon already works the jobs of 3 people by herself at all times, communicates and shares memes through two ig accounts, is doing a lot of programs right now, she's just not the type of person to do texting fanservice and she's letting people know to not spend on it

  • @J4keobs33ed
    @J4keobs33ed Місяць тому +3

    I’m actually starting to hate Bunnies Bri even tho I’m a bunny they are saying that my favorite groups are copying them Newjeans is not everything bro everything is not owned by them just bc a concept looks similar DOSNT mean they wanna be new jeans just bc their lightstick looks like a heart DOSNT mean they are copying Newjeans you bunnies need to rest and stop accusing group like

  • @cobblerpudding6292
    @cobblerpudding6292 Місяць тому +1

    Seventeen has definitely been called out for a while now for having their albums thrown out on the streets. I wouldn't be surprised if the company was doing that thing where they say the albums have been sold but really they're still in stock so the group does 40 fans sign events to get them out of stock. It is important to note that Seventeen and other groups sold over 3 Million albums is because of the photocard inclusions. You won't see them super high on a lot of charts or selling out stadiums because their fans are buying the albums in bulk for the inclusions. Some websites limit the amount that counts on charts so in the US you cannot buy more than like 4 versions of an album so fans who buy like 20 for the photocards won't count towards sales in the US but will on the circle chart. I am sure we all realized that selling albums is a lot easier now due to the photocard scheme companies are doing. Making 52 photocards but only being able to get 4 in one album is ridiculous. Taylor Swift's fans are not mass buying her albums in bulk for the inclusions and throwing them out they're buying all the versions to collect them the same as BTS fans. That's why they sell a lot and can sell out huge stadiums they actually have that huge of a fanbase. Also, the sales of Chinese mass buying has actually gone down so Seventeen is selling 5 Million mainly in Japan and South Korea where they host most of their events. Also, this does not mean that Seventeen does not have a sizable fandom it just means that their sales numbers are inflated due to the numerous album versions that fans can buy making them appear on a bigger popularity scale than they are. This is why people analyze more than just physical sales to determine an artist's popularity.

  • @narankhuunaran8113
    @narankhuunaran8113 Місяць тому +6

    NJ is also copy of Speed and other kpop girl groups during late 90s. Who is copying who 😅😅😅

  • @nelebaumgartner8642
    @nelebaumgartner8642 28 днів тому

    i just hope everything will turn out well for them! they have nothing to do with all this drama but may be affected als well. i hope, they are doing fine

  • @hayesdiary
    @hayesdiary Місяць тому +3

    That light stick looks literally NOTHING alike NewJeans light them fake bunnies are tweakin maybe from a far it looks likes NewJeans lightstick.

  • @moaxblink
    @moaxblink Місяць тому +1

    NEVER CLICKED SO FAST!!!

  • @IVEREIStan
    @IVEREIStan Місяць тому +1

    11:15 La chica choreographed HEYA. They also choreographed I AM and love dive, both of which had really good dances, hopefully the choreo for accendio is a lot better 🙏

  • @Rubylolo13212
    @Rubylolo13212 Місяць тому +2

    10:58 actually if you saw the video of the original choreography it looked so crisp and clean but I think with IVEs doing it, it looked messy and I think cuz they might have tone it down a bit so the members can sing & dance at the same time (but idk tbh) the original choreography looks so good.

  • @ideuni
    @ideuni Місяць тому

    18:56 they do have a unit song on yuqi's solo album! called 'everytime'

  • @aaiisshaa8901
    @aaiisshaa8901 Місяць тому +3

    Koreans are so obsessed with japan

    • @blueraine21
      @blueraine21 Місяць тому

      just wait until japan banned kpop and see at least 80% of kpop groups dying due to low income... these knets are a bunch of babies and dont realize a huge chunk of kpop profits comes from japan, i mean most groups always hold concerts there like tokyo dome, arenas, stadium etc..

  • @2022deluna
    @2022deluna Місяць тому +1

    riize never geta a break

  • @99lineisweird
    @99lineisweird Місяць тому +4

    it's either the clothes' thing or potato thing. such fans needs to stay home 😤 17:35

  • @dolly_vivi
    @dolly_vivi Місяць тому +1

    11:22 I cackled 😭

  • @kpoprouge
    @kpoprouge 29 днів тому +1

    they way u predicted the minnie and yuqi thing

  • @adampotocnak5335
    @adampotocnak5335 Місяць тому +1

    About your dream, Yuqi and Minnie have actually collaborated recently, they have a song together on Yuqi's new album.

  • @Sherluck93
    @Sherluck93 Місяць тому +7

    Everybody is copying NJ, because the one who shouldn't be named is such a genius! Sure.

  • @nonamenosurname6127
    @nonamenosurname6127 Місяць тому +4

    the illlit song sounds too similar to the other song. is there anything in illit?

  • @tiw5143
    @tiw5143 Місяць тому +7

    What’s wrong with 5th gen times and people being on all these artists neck for literally anything (I’m talking about the times not just 5th gen, so it includes 4th gen).. I just feel like kpop was more interesting when people weren’t so obsessed with comparing groups or looking for something to bash a group on (comparison existed before) but now it’s become an obsession to bully groups (unless most are bots which I doubt) fans nowadays are just too obsessed with attacking that new fans would think Kpop was all about the nonsense than the fun..

  • @sodasteam551
    @sodasteam551 Місяць тому +2

    sorry, but soyeon has been like this since forever. they had universe before and she was never using it so they shouldnt blame her for being herself... they forgot idle survived only because of her hardwork? fake neverlands

  • @luv.Jendeuk
    @luv.Jendeuk Місяць тому

    it's feels illigal to be this early

  • @trinichan5103
    @trinichan5103 Місяць тому +2

    And the riize thing is stupid

  • @dfernandez3482
    @dfernandez3482 Місяць тому +7

    I don't see how Riize copied NJ at all. Their light stick really does look like shrimp 🤔😂🙂
    10:42 can we make Rei running to her position in choreographies a thing from now on? Its cute 😂☺
    18:09 that dream seems high af 😂

  • @twicesliceee6464
    @twicesliceee6464 Місяць тому

    The way Yuqi & Minnie released a mv for their song on YUQ1 too 😭😭

  • @knyarpa
    @knyarpa Місяць тому +2

    Tf is wrong with these people. Y2k, hearts and what else jst belongs to Newjeans😂😂They've good music. Stop getting so insecure. Just let others breathe. Take a close up look. At this point it's like a hate campaign, forced one. Light stick may look like hearts from afar but its very silly to accuse them...srsly its a common thing for idols wanting to look at crowd and see their fans holding their lightstick which looks like hearts and represents that fan's heart lies with them.
    Protect ur favs but in a logical and clean way.

  • @starsparklemonkey3390
    @starsparklemonkey3390 Місяць тому

    To me Lucky Girl chorus sounds really familiar but I can't remember what it sounds like. Anyone else?

  • @angel_t3338
    @angel_t3338 Місяць тому +5

    I mean in term of lightsticks, aren't they all copying the VIP stick when Dragon came up with the idea.

  • @ShesUncontrolable
    @ShesUncontrolable Місяць тому

    Not Yuqi coming out with a song featuring Minnie 10 hours ago 😳u totes dreamt that!

  • @sfukuda512
    @sfukuda512 Місяць тому +7

    Most of these are dumb. The Sakura one reminded me of the DVD cover to End of Evangelion. As for IVE: I think they are simplifying the choreo so that they can sing live.
    The controversy of the moment is that live singing has taken a back seat to hard choreo. Starship doesn't want to get pulled into that drama, so they would rather be accused of "lazy choreo" rather than idols who can't sing.

  • @gobegobe
    @gobegobe 29 днів тому

    About IVE's choreo: LACHICA's demo actually looks nice in the last section, but as we all know, companies still make changes to the choreo after the final demo is sent. The only difference between the final and demo versions is 1 or 2 members in other position. that ONE change already makes the formation change look awkward. You can comáre the 2 side by side with the full focus video of studio choom and LACHICA's video!

  • @felixsslutwife
    @felixsslutwife Місяць тому

    with ur whole kpop dream predicting a minnie n yuqi sub unit, they actually did a collab on yuqis solo album recently

  • @suzumi111
    @suzumi111 Місяць тому +7

    that light stick is really cool

  • @Deluluminded
    @Deluluminded 26 днів тому

    Riize will keep on rising

  • @zerobaseone_HelloZB1_3rdAlbum
    @zerobaseone_HelloZB1_3rdAlbum Місяць тому +1

    2024 must be the most negative time in kpop...hope it gets better😭

  • @4neonct
    @4neonct Місяць тому +1

    they said it because it looks like heart in the crowd but the two lightsick is different bruh

  • @justinehercthehuman
    @justinehercthehuman Місяць тому +10

    Y'all. I know Soyeon is busy. But typing one message takes less than 1 minute of her time 😭🤣. The management needs to make it a requirement that their idols send something every month because subscription is monthly. A few minutes of their time per month doesn't sound much to me.

    • @hellhound1505
      @hellhound1505 Місяць тому +8

      But why can't the fans just stop paying for the subscription? She hasn't been active on bubble for more than a year so this shoulf be an indicator that the fans should stop paying for it..

    • @TomsMusicCorner
      @TomsMusicCorner Місяць тому

      @@hellhound1505 /this

    • @user-bx9xy9br3c
      @user-bx9xy9br3c Місяць тому +1

      She's not msg their for months and they still expecting in that, Soyeon have another instagram where she interact for free...and she's not obligate to msg their and you can see in bubble description

  • @Hosh_15
    @Hosh_15 Місяць тому +4

    No buzz around this comeback of seventeen? Do people look things up before saying shit?!
    Asia is huge and one thing about Carats,most of us are adults who earn on our own. So its not surprising that so many albums are sold. And western media buzz doesn’t result in physical sales.Some people come for seventeen along with Hybe and they question whether they’d be as popular as they are now if it wasn’t for hybe ! Again without researching on their sales and popularity before being acquired by hybe and the level of popularity now is just the continuation of that because of talent , hard work and unity.

  • @tsh9584
    @tsh9584 25 днів тому

    @angelina have you heard the latest issue? New Jeans Bubblegum is plagiarized from Shakatak - Easier Said Than Done. and on the twitter it seems like shakatak has no idea that their song was sampled on NJ's latest release. What can you say about this?

  • @tanvimaan347
    @tanvimaan347 Місяць тому +24

    STRAY KIDS AT THE MET GALA 2024, it's confirmed 💙🤍

    • @kpop.luvx.143
      @kpop.luvx.143 Місяць тому

      IKR IM SO PROUD OF THEM 😭💗

    • @Enhacoreee
      @Enhacoreee Місяць тому

      IT WILL BE PREMIERED ON UA-cam 🤭

    • @_iamauser_
      @_iamauser_ Місяць тому

      which time ​@@Enhacoreee

    • @Enhacoreee
      @Enhacoreee Місяць тому

      @@_iamauser_ MET GALA IS LIVE RN!!

  • @guilherme_284
    @guilherme_284 Місяць тому +1

    YOU PREDICTED THE YUQI MINNIE VIDEO

  • @BuniiSakura
    @BuniiSakura Місяць тому +1

    proof that knetizens find every little thing wromg with them and make it a big deal, i wish i could give the group a hug and tell them itll be alright.
    how are you go into depth with a trailer made a year ago and call it a propaganda ALL OF A SUDDEN i swear ppl really have no lives other than hiding behind a keyboard and ruining others' lives

  • @lai122486
    @lai122486 Місяць тому

    About The SVT sales....its possible cuz a jpop group, ARASHI, did the same in 2000. Like they are even less known outside of Japan, and yet they beat Taylor Swift and even BTS that year. Arashi beat 2 of the most popular music artists at the time, based on the sales from the Japanese market mostly.

  • @IqraJogow-ql9ms
    @IqraJogow-ql9ms Місяць тому

    In 11:20 what did they mean by Hybe’s fault cuz Ive is under starship right?

    • @moluccensis
      @moluccensis  Місяць тому +1

      it’s just a joke, blaming hybe for everything haha

  • @alexlefay
    @alexlefay Місяць тому

    It's almost like certain CEO leaked plans named after Korea independence from Japan detail that one of the steps is to spoil the name of other idols in the company 🙂🙂🙂🙂🙂🙂🙂

  • @greydragon9082
    @greydragon9082 Місяць тому +1

    Eh I don’t really like Heya’s choreography because it’s just… very small? Idk. Ive typically has this minimalist choreo so I don’t think it’s anything new.

  • @lingth
    @lingth Місяць тому

    In the mid 2000s fans were fighting over fandom COLORS as light sticks were just well LIGHT.. and now there are too many idol groups to avoid overlapping of colors, SNSD cannot say only they can use pink or DBSK fandom can't say only they can use Red.. but now even lightstick designs have to be criticized.. it's really crazy..

  • @TateMcRae344
    @TateMcRae344 Місяць тому +1

    ok the le sserafim thing is soooooooooooooo dumb , like they are rlly just trying to find anything to hate on them , plz stop !

  • @weebminion1670
    @weebminion1670 Місяць тому +2

    Bro I get the lesserafim vocals haven’t been the best lately BUT NOW THIS GETTING OUT HAHD 😭😭

  • @gravy9gravy
    @gravy9gravy Місяць тому +1

    Plagiarism isn't a thing in music. Copying is governed by copyright law. There is a very high bar because music has been around for a very long time. These accusations are all just crude weapons in lame fan-wars. Re 17: I was in a Walmart and saw about ten unsold '17' cds in the rack. This is called 'packing the channel' in corporate-speak.