K-OG Looks into HIBE and ADOR FIASCO [] Stupidity and EVIL PLANS
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- I have small experience with corporate laws and some background and have tried to explain as best as I could. To me, this was pretty simple. There are legal boundaries and corporate morality that should not be crossed. If available evidence is all real Min Heejin crossed it and some more. Should be going to jail if she actually did what was accused. Too much pride and too little business savvy.
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It's like .. I want to take over my parents' house. I wrote down my plans in my diary that I bought with my pocket money given by my father. I hid my diary under my pillow in my messy bedroom, which is usually cleaned and tidied up by my mother. When my parents find out about all of that, I cry in front of my big family (during a family gathering). I tell them that my parents are bad parents who never take care of me and only care for my siblings..
Ps. I am the drama club president at my college, and I have won many awards for my acting skills. So, I know how to gain the trust of my big family through my acting...
Hhh...
I like your sarcasm
It's so devastating to see how she played with New Jeans' emotions, their careers, their families, etc. Saying she cares so deeply for them while actively plotting to tank their company. Those poor kids.
You said it perfectly. I wanted to say it but didn't have the guts to. Thank you.
And not just New Jeans, to bring Illit into this and even BTS is outrageous to me. I feel for all three groups. All of the girls are so young and very vulnerable.
@@Imme_begin Not just them. She's claiming RIIZE and TWS, two recent boy groups, also copied her.
Meanwhile, Japanese media is pointing out that one of NJ's mvs looks copied from a Japanese 90s girl group, SPEED.
she dropped names too and thats so unprofessional, le sserafim and other as a shield . greedy women
@@ystrwLet’s not spread wrong informations. This is getting out of hand, please dont trust Tiktok instead find a good translation source of her press conference
She never mentioned Rizze or TWs, Hybe claimed that without proofs,Hybe also the first one who brought BTS into this fight. MHJ on the other hand has screenshots of BSH talked down on Aespa.. She also denied rumours about BTS. The only group she mentioned is Illit and she also said “it’s not Illit’s fault,the girls are innocent,the one at fault is the adults “
Hybe Responds To Min Hee Jin's Accusations
• NewJeans' debut was postponed because of Min Hee Jin's ambitions, not their decisions
• Hybe stated that they already answered Min Hee Jin's questions regarding NewJeans' promotion being neglected via e-mail
• The company explained that their Communication Department did best for NewJeans' PR. In 2023 they wrote and spread 273 press releases for NewJeans only
• BTS for their group and individual promotions (8 units) had 659 pieces while Seventeen who promoted 4 different units had 365 pieces
• It’s hard to claim that NewJeans’ PR has been neglected, the company did their best to promote all our labels and artists without any discrimination
• According to Hybe the documents found in Ador VP's assets can't be treated lightly because they included a detailed plan of taking over the company with notes about the timing suggesting when each action should be taken, copyrights infringement lawsuits and investment companies described in detail
• Claimed CEO Min isn't under a slave contract
• Hybe argue that "It was CEO Min who started attacking the company by e-mail around the time of NewJeans' comeback. In the forensic data, there is a record of CEO Min's instruction to prepare for a public opinion war from April"
• Hybe continued: "It is CEO Min who is blackmailing the company by holding artists hostage. We have accepted and compromised Min's repeated demands for years, but this time we found out that these demands were a build-up process to seize control of the company, and we had no choice but to conduct an audit to protect the value of the multi-label regardless of the timing"
• Hybe refuted the allegations that Min Hee Jin had little monetary compensation and unfavorable conditions at a press conference, saying that the company had offered high salaries, performance bonuses, and huge stock compensation
• The company believes Min Hee Jin shouldn't complain about her finances because she received the highest annual salary among members of Hybe's headquarters and Korean subsidiaries
• Min Hee Jin is not "tied up to Hybe forever"
Obviously she can’t wait and follow the rules the Que. hybe press conference 2019 got announced new girl group debuting from source music 2022. And a few months later suddenly Ador came out??? And now blaming hybe . 🤦🏻♀️ this women totally mess !
She really joined a company she hated so she use BTS/Hybe clout n money to launch a group, sabotage the company, and then steal the group. She really had this revenge plot planned out🙄
And then thought EVERYONE would believe her. The delusion this woman has. She seems to have the mental age of a 15 year old teenager. Oh mummy look they copied my looks.
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So beyond what we already know, this woman doesn’t want HYBE to release the audit findings… I wonder why. So delusional and unprofessional. Her whole conference was so beyond pathetic I am surprised that people are now taking her side… based on her interpretations. Let people stop to think why would HYBE suddenly do this after having given her not only high ranking positions from the beginning but the top floor of the company which is normal reserved for the CEO! BTS deserves that floor! She got given her subsidiary when she was asked to help debut a girl within source music! She got the investment, the trainees, the resources, contacts and platform and then the 20% stock at a bargain! HYBE had great confidence in her and gave her too much in my opinion. I was surprised at how open and giving they were and thought to myself… will this be a good thing? I must admit I did not like her whole rebranding of the company initially but gradually got use to it. Now look at how she got the group their own app. No other group or label has that. Then believe it or not I did notice that most of the group’s speeches did not include HYBE … but then I thought ok… maybe it’s just a thing with them. Then you see the woman hosting them in her house showering them with expensive gifts… dressing them like her (she dresses like a teenager) , she is always around them like a leech even during their time in America. Then those questionable lyrics… photos or pictures on her wall. Now she believes she owns the Y2K and youthful concepts, the denim jeans and long black hair look…what a joke! Everyone has apparently plagiarised her when she herself has taken a lot of ideas from the Japanese group speed, German movies, tumblr, etc. THE CONFERENCE STATEMENTS MADE WERE UTTERLY UNPROFESSIONAL AND EMOTIONAL. HOW THE HEC CAN ANYONE BELIEVE THIS WOMAN?
IS ANYONE TALKING ABOUT THE WAY SHE SPOKE OF MINJI AND HAERIN IN HER CONFERENCE? Am I the only one thinking this was super weird? And isn’t super weird that she is calling the members of the group and crying with them? Seriously how exploitive and manipulative is this woman? She is a CEO! Not a buddy! References to them being family is just plain freaking weird man. How people do not see this is beyond me ‼️
the way she thinks she own the y2k concept is absurd
From what I am seeing, the press conference was meant to appeal to emotions and to represent herself as the victim of a hateful workplace. Apparently there's a lot of dislike and distrust for 'the bosses' among the workers, and they're very likely to side with her out of sympathy for having been 'oppressed at work by the corporate masters' themselves. I gather that a lot of people in white-collar Korean jobs really hate their work, but take the jobs for financial stability, so they're open to the idea that HYBE was 'mercilessly bullying the poor CEO lady'. And the fact that she presented quite like a K-drama is swaying emotions to her as well. But that isn't going to fly in the courtroom.
We Westerners, on the other hand, have certain standards for this sort of formal situation. So we perceive her performance *as* a performance, and what we see is a messy, sloppy, immature, unprofessional woman fake-crying, swearing and rambling for a couple of hours in a press-recorded pity party. Besides that, after all these years of political conflict, we very readily recognize when lying, projecting, gaslighting and distraction are going down. We brush off the efforts at emotional manipulation and go straight for the facts; and the facts are on HYBE's side.
She Twist the story and she wants to owned the company of her own
2 bangs?!? No! She’s not even close to being on the same level as Bang! She’s responsible for branding, not running a major corporation. It’s a joke to even entertain that idea!
She’s despicable for dragging NJ and Ilit, who have minors as members; she’s putting NJ in a horrible position; if she WAS really ‘like their mother’, she would never do this to them.
As for copying, she had no problem allowing NJ to ride on BTS’ coattails for publicity! AND yes, they’re under the same mother company and there’s going to be uniformity / similarities in concepts. There are even often similarities in concepts between the major labels!
She actually alleged BSH copied her for BTS’ concept - if she hadn’t already ruined herself creating this nightmare, she’s absolutely ruined herself bringing BTS into it!
Lol. 2 bangs was what entertainment people were saying. I agree with you. Different breed and DNA.
@@komerican-og It’s ridiculous the arguments people are making in her favour! Smoke and mirrors to distract is all she’s doing. But to actually say she’s done more for KPop in 30 years than anyone else, is good argument for a case of narcissistic personality. So, according to her, she invented KPop, lol! It’s so simple; did she commit a breach of trust or didn’t she? If she did (sounds like Hybe has tangible evidence), she’s done.
NEVER BITE THE HAND THAT FEEDS YOU
Even if that hands are unclean.
@@mala-dd8fgno matter how it all goes down the story at the end of the day is good always triumph over evil. If the hands were dirty you leave ,separate yourself. It's all coming out now that MHJ manipulated those girls make them believe they can't do without her.insulted and shamed them behind their backs while showing them a good face,got the parents sympathy believing that Hybe treated their daughters unfairly.
I can bet you she withheld money from those girls,kept changing the girls contract and blame Hybe which caused the girls to believe all the time that Hybe was screwing them over time after time.
I like how you can weed out the BS. Because of your maturity, many of us Respect and rely on your Wisdom! I hope you’re never afraid to speak out on matters that are important to you (and us). 💜
Thank you. I usually dislike negativity but that aside, the truth is out there....somewhere.
I also think HYBE's response letter was good. Short and to the point. Min Heejin is giving me Nijisanji flashbacks with how much she talks and talks.
SM tactic just like what that CEO did.
yes hybe is more professional. mhj always cuts off when someone speaks and continue ranting and speak about unrelated issue.
Finally someone talks about the put option position she has. It's crazy big and yet most people only talk about the copy concept drama. Essentially, she shorted HYPE stock, at a highly leveraged position. If stock goes down 10%, she can gain 100x the original amount. She's an insider working at the company and planned moves to cause the stock to drop, that's basically insider trading. Worse is she intentionally tanks it. Sounds like US Congress lol
If the evidence is true, she is disgustingly shady. However, it is really difficult to explain certain concepts. What is worse is that the best way to tank ador would be attacking their only IP, newjeans. Perhaps that is why the Hibe audit asked about the release of NJ members' personal info leak.
CEO Min ‘s actions say a lot. If she has nothing to hide, why not provide access to equipment that doesn’t belong to her. If she has done nothing wrong, why not take the high road, keep the battle internal and leave the public and idol groups out of it. Very immature and defensive behaviour on her part. Hindsight is 20/20. She should have been hired as a well paid CEO and rewarded or penalized on merit. Thanks for this logical and practical analysis.🧐
I just want to say. Hey New Jeans! Do your remember Fifty Fifty? Neither do I. lol
SAD she could have been an ICON FOR WOMEN
Exactly. I have praised her multiple times in the past for what she has achieved. She started as an entry salleryman to achieving great things by her talent and tenesity alone. The evidence and how she is handling herself does not look good, though.....
She could have. Instead she decided to be delusional
people do people does. :D we not change until something changed us. also the most important is to change our own 'mindset', without that, we will change nothing.
(that why many people said 'people not changed'. they are but it's hard to do, because so many time, it's need to change the root of our brain, even 'process of thinking')
so, no, she could not. especially from what i see from 'press conference', no.
and i believed, she still don't get it.
always, not just 'the result' but 'process to do it'.
have a good day. :)
Thank you for doing this, John. I know this was a lot of work to gather this info. I always appreciate your take on things and getting your perspective makes it more interesting. 👍🏼
Lol, I am already getting conspiracy theories and ridiculous comments. Not my cup of tea...... I love peace. However, In this world where even science is being deemed as an opinion, I hope there are more people like you, who would actually listen to evidence and facts presented in a coherent logical manner. Glad to be of service.
@@komerican-og👍🏻👍🏻
@@komerican-og Thanks for laying it out. The translations online sometimes make things confusing.
I just want to say. Hey New Jeans! Do your remember Fifty Fifty? Neither do I. lol
@@komerican-og,what will happen sir if hybe will lost the case?
CAN HE KICK M3NHEJIN WITHOUT PAYING ANY DEBT?
BSH treats his people pretty good by industry standards. He's too trusting. He should had been cautious, esp since she was from SM.
Exactly he trust easily
I hope he has learnt his lesson by hirig anyone. All that glitters is not gold
SM also don’t want her. She made a lot of mistakes and problems for the group she made. Mistakes Mr Bang helping her out
She is deluded that her ideas are new! She copied from the 90 as many others have.
She is so unprofessional dissing other artists publicly.
Hybe want its subsidiaries to be making money so why would they put a spanner in the works for her?
I can’t believe she is so low as to celebrate BTSs enlistment because it would be better for her!???
Exactly she should just stay creative director and go away from CEO role, she clearly doesn't have idea how to manage that XD
Hybe definitely made the biggest mistake knowing her past and how she was as a person and still choosing to go with her and giving her that big of a promotion. They should have left her as a creative director. Just a damn shame. Putting someone in a position of power with zero experience in running a business she said her self she is an artist and a creative she has no business being a CEO. Bad business decisions all around from Hybe to Ador.
Thank you for this. It was very well made and was easier to understand than the flashy videos covering the news.
This is so good. What a nice recap and explanation. You deserve more views tbh. Hopefully, more people understand this, so they won't blindly support MHJ and do fanwar just to distract from the main issues.
This woman is so unhinged. Her "press conference" was honestly uncomfortable to watch. The thing is Bang Shihyuk and BTS are so humble and kind when really they could shove their success in other people's faces meanwhile this delulu Min Heejin is narcissistic and thinks she is the mastermind to kpop in general. I hate to say this but she looks like next level crazy. Even her name sounds crazy.😅
I also feel like people don't realize BTS reach. If they weren't as humble as they are (which I still think is a good thing) people would not have the room to dance around them like this.. Also our babies TXT should also be respected.
I think MHJ was so unprofessional.
Wot truly disturbs me about her is, her very obvious ill-will towards BTS. Scary that someone can harbour such toxicity towards 7 guys who were totally oblivious & just focusing on how to improve themselves even at the height of their success.
@@lotusfloat2020yah. I can't imagine when 7 bts was work with her. even though he had bad intentions. I hope BTS is always protected
@@lotusfloat2020 Anyone messing with BTS and ARMY has something missing in their head. Not all there.... Just saying....
She’s willing to take everything down, she’s a sociopath
I just hope the rumors that she was leaking trainee information is untrue bc that without a doubt means her old trainee that was going to debut in illit but was pulled out a month or two before due to a “mutual” decision is her fault/ doing somehow
Thank you for doing this.
The fact that she is including minors in the nonsense speaks volumes.
Her past history speaks for itself. She has been trouble and difficult in the past, and nothing has changed. I was worried when she started with HYBE and for good reason.
Your logical-minded way of looking at this situation is SO REFRESHING. Thank goodness for content like this. 🙌👍
Much appreciated John! Acknowledge that this is your take on what is happening, based on the information available - how you explained things was very helpful.
Thank you John, for your insightful viewpoints about this whole thing. Our translators did an excellent job of translating and letting us know what was being said. Between our business ARMYs and you, I really understand what's going on. This is the first time I have heard your talks. I will be back for more! Thanks again!
Ermmmm lets just say Miss Min ideas are not 'owned' by her they're old concept's taken from the 80's and 90's.
Very bad, I can't imagine when BTS worked with that woman, if her intentions were evil it could harm the artist. I hope BTS will always be protected from bad things and this problem will be resolved quickly and fairly
Thank you for all your research and translations. I don't read nor speak Korean and I thought there would be some solud reason Hybe audited. It's standard practice and when you have nothing to hide, you are transparent, welcome the questions and might gain a bonus from the parent company for managing their assets well. Putting on a dishelved catty show means you are stirring up tabloids and tanking you career, not a smart CEO move. It's likely you are doing a sleight of hands to distract from the real issues. Tyvm for helping us get more info, waiting now for evidences and legal measures.
I am so glad you have done this video. I seriously believe everyone one with a logical mind should watch it!
She is crazy. She definitely wants fan wars and make Bang PD and BTS look bad
no one needs to make bang sihyuk look bad, he is that already. he and mhj are the same, greedy and power hungry corporates who don't care for the wellbeing of others.
@@vkskmscant agree more. Bang Si Hyuk is fat ass greedy man and is ruining Kpop world
@@vkskms Proof please.
@@vkskmscome on kid, how bang PD is wrong now
@@Bts20194they don't know, they just say back what they hear because they have no thoughts of their own.
When I heard about how she was handling her shares in the company.... red flags popped up everywhere as in 'insider trading' which in the US is taboo and can get you in serious trouble. I don't know the particular laws in Korea but I surmise that some of their laws were modeled after some in the US. Particularly when it comes to corporations and companies that run on a western model. As such perhaps the alleged insider trading will hold the same consequences as it does here in America... (Martha Stewert anyone?)
Martha Stewert got me 😂 you make good points!
Gosh, I wish I would have bought a whole lot of their shares when Martha was sent to prison. Sure she did insider trading, but the products wete good. 😪
The Korean government recently (last year) strengthened their penalties for insider trading. (I looked into it during the Lee Sooman/Kakao thing.) Depending on the crime, the penalty can be up to but not exceeding ten years of prison, or a fine of up to but not exceeding 500M won. So, yes, they take this pretty seriously; seems there's no lack of it.
Thank you for pointing out that Ador was set up with HYBE money and NJ was set up with HYBE money. HYBE owns everything, aka HYBE was built by BTS.
If this stated infos are true facts, then MHJ is in self destruction mode due to whatever reasons that she resulted in now. It is a waste of her years of being and reputation developed as a talented Art Director and Concept Producer. In effective business and as a good human, it is important to have gratitude and consistency of payback kindness for kindness. Such are forward ways for business continuity and also sustainablity , not new concept which PD Bang & BTS understand and practicing. Army of BTS well understand this too and supports with 💜😊😀
Dont believe any shit of both.
truth always wins at the end
@@ffazzeyHer reputation is ruined either way because of how poorly she's handling it. No company is going to want to deal with someone that immediately takes the dispute public, rather than hire attorneys and negotiate or defend themselves
@@cjayj442 we will see
Art cannot be protected unless it is an exact copy. They are the same company so they have the right to copy. The only negative would be the butthurt from fans. Look at fashion or films. Copying happens all the time because humans are the same and they like similar things.
Thank you for the breakdown John! I knew she was trouble from the beginning and here we are.
I think something good might even come out of all this. Everybody should know that HYBE DOESN'T PLAY. It might help protect Jin (and BTS), just when they are coming back from the military, from unreasonable rumours and potential troublemakers. 💜
Wdym? Protect them from what?
@@darkreunion7882 You think it'll be a flower road when they come back?
@@Sherluck93 I don't know? I'm not up to date with all that's happening concerning BTS
@@darkreunion7882 It's nothing new. Just what is always happening. So, if you know anything, you know. This might just act as a deterent.
Yes I think so as well. Hybe has to show that this is not okay, JUST for the artists and peace. Our loves BTS and our babies TXT are my 1 priority that HAS to be kept safe from all this greedy bs.. :( Other artists as well. But BTS is so big that if there is wind they will be hit as we have seen... I don't like it.
I think she knows she’s not going to win, so she’s throwing a bunch of names and stuff out there to hurt Hybe and all it’s artists before she’s gone, fan wars are crazy rn on twitter
My thoughts are same, the fact that she threw a tantrum and profanities at the press con together with spaghetti at the wall approach and actually not providing any rebuttal to why she has nothing to do with scheming to take ownership of the company is sketchy, if I was her that’s the number one most important thing on my agenda to clear my name in the press con but she didn’t go anywhere near that, she spent the whole time dragging every other kpop group and just complaining about the males in HYBE not agreeing with her business decisions…. Hmmmmm
she want to gain the public sympathy but she's not winning that court case at all now she caused a huge fanwar between all the kpop fans who are acting like " ur group copied my faves !! " they are just like min heejin..." min heejin style blabla " she cannot own a concept gosh she's so childish i want her and hybe gone
Thanks K-OG, this was very informative. I understood some parts of all this crazy-ness, but the business side was beyond me hehe. While listening to this video I was taken back to watching Itaewon Class when the show covered a lot of business drama that I didn't totally understand hehe. I wonder how this will play out moving forward, I hope the NJ members won't be seriously affected, and this is not another Fifty Fifty situation.
It can never go that bad, because Every product of a corporation is owned by the company. Not the CEO or directors or workers. So the final ownership lies in the one with controlling shares. That would be HYBE. Worst case scenario is if members of New Jeans quit due to emotions and/or personal loyalty. Then everybody loses. New Jeans has most to lose.
@@komerican-og I agree. Everybody is worried about sth. bad happening TO New Jeans, when it's THEM who have to make the right decision.
That’s what I was wondering. She had 18% share and tried a hostile take over while sharing trade secrets; I was thinking that hybe would get her out then deal with it, but they r going legal route which means she could go to jail. They r making her an example.
BANG PD IN HAVING GIVEN HER 20% at a bargain was indeed STUPID GENEROUS AND HE SHOR HIMSELF IN THE FOOT. NOW look at the mess!
2:07 but hey guess what? BTS kicks butt. 😂 I snorted out loud. Truth!
Watched through the whole video, thank you so much for compiling the information and providing simple explanations for us simpletons. Dare I say I actually learned alot.
She exposed herself publically so Hybe's attorneys know what her defense is. Notice how Hybe has been pretty quiet. That means her attorneys have no idea what they are bringing to the table and do not know what to be prepared for. It's to bad the parents/girls have bought into her crap. Did they forget where their paychecks came from?
You should get more views with the insights that u are giving to us in this matter!! Thanks a lot!!
See i never knew she was in power at source but then they outsourced half of her resources for ador from source that ended up bankrupting them with then led to the end of gfriend, why does it seem min hee Jin is linked to all of the bad that has happened to hybe the passed few years
When it comes to the character of Bang pd, I trust in BTS' words. But yes, it does seem that Bang was too nice to this lady. Probably because she has so much experience in the industry.
"so much experience" only in her area of expertise & for which she was specifically hired for...by HYBE. Don't overrate the lady, she's already done so much of that herself with her shaman helping her along.
Thank you for your detailed video and take on the information we have right now. It was difficult for me to understand before because I have never had anything to do with business but you made it easily understandable even for people like me 😊.
you can't steal a 90's American hip hop style that new jeans use. all female k pop groups look similar and sound similar. the male k pop groups depending which company they are coming from have similar sounds too. most things are no longer unique. if you put your own spin on things that is what makes it unique. but new jeans concept is not unique at all. i mean both groups look alike. since i don't listen to k pop i would've thought it was the same group i sincerely don't care about this drama. but that women's shady practices do not fall in line with Bang PD's vision for his company. also, all this negativity better not affect BTS either.
Illit’s girls have long dark hair. That’s in common w NJ. their music sounds nothing alike. One dane move isn’t copying bcz this is common in Kpop.
I learned a lot from this . Thank you
Thank you, this is the clearest explanation I’ve heard. I hope you also do a program in Korean, they need to hear this. There seem to be a lot of emotional responses in S Korea without any understanding of business.
the fact that she lied about getting a respond for her internal report says it all. hybe showed the email response that she ‘proof read’ it lol. its so embarrassing
Thank You! This was so helpful. I have been getting more and more frustrated with the coverage of this situation. Bringing BTS into it was just unhinged and delusional. One thing I have never been clear about w KPop is creative or intellectual property. When V did his solo album he used ADOR. I get that, all in the family. But some others have used completely different agencies for solo and group work. That seems like a disaster waiting to happen. If I invested energy and $ into vocal lessons for an idol then that rolls over to the other company’s gain. Even musical lyrics or ideas. Please help if you can. TY!
Thanks for this! 💜
Wow, I learnt a lot here today. Thank you for your concise explanation.
Thanks for laying out the facts like this; I try not to follow gossip and other people's dirty laundry, but have to admit my curiosity since it involves Hybe (and by extension BTS).
Aah thank u sir, thru u I learnt a phrase which had been eluding me ever since this sad fiasco began. "Corporate Morality" ... someone's truly lacking it 🙄
Someone said she managed to sway public opinion through this press conference. Is this true? What’s the mood there in Korea?
That's what I'm wondering, cuz then I'll realize how gullible knetz/loop stand really are.
yeah she managed to sway the korean public they even sold out her sweater💀 and i saw knetz comments like " min heejin im ur huge fan blabla lets take down hybe corruption "her plan was to let dumb people pity her and it succeded now w her look she's just promoting newjeans new comeback because minji is dressed just like min heejin in the recents photos....this is evil she's using those poor girls
@@nanangel313 Yuck....
I think her mission is to ruin HYBE .
But as long as HYBE have BTS then NO ONE can destroy HYBE.
Coz we BTS ARMY'S never let anyone in trying to destroy any BTS Family.
😂😂😂
😂😂😂😂
Hybe is a horrible money hungry corporation and Hybe ≠ bts
Stop rooting it for it pls go read into this more
@@harika_9399yes well that hybe and BTS money made new jeans and this woman is making claims today because of hybe and BTS money.
(Two bangs) Her jealousy towards (claiming) BangPD as the mentor father of the boys. She claims a title while she does not have the vision
Wow thank you for this information 😢 I feel sorry for the young artists too… this whole thing is cinceles
Thank you for explaining in detailed information
Thanks for the explanation!
Thanks for bringing up that HYBE was stupid generous with giving MHJ 20%. I think he had bad judgement in putting so much trust in her and I do believe he was motivated by some sort of feelings towards her. Not denying that she is good at marketing and selecting concepts and how she presented New Jeans to the world. But she has overstepped every sort of professional line in her inappropriate relationship with the members and their parents. I think she does care about the members but she is going about this in such wrong ways and being very egotistical about it all. She plays dumb when she needs to for empathy and then becomes smart and strong when she wants. For HYBE to come this far and sharing with the news so many details, they must have a lot of concrete evidence to dismiss her or even incriminate her. They wouldn’t do this if they could’ve just kept it hush in the company walls because why would they shoot themselves in the foot and lose so much money.
Hello John, thank you for your explanation
Helped to clarify a lot of things that in art I also think in the same way.
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Thanks mr.Kim, you made it easier,
Thank you for the visual pegs! Made it easier to understand! 💪👍
She should just go back to becoming a art director or whatever she was doing before, she clearly has no background knowledge on running a music company 🤦
Thank you for the insight
Thank you for the information and analysis. This goes down the path of what IF all the information on her is true. What if is NOT true. What does that mean about the whole situation?
From what I read when his colleague founded JYP, BSH became involved as a creative, I didn't read anywhere that he was a cofounder
They have wonderful relationship. He worked for JYP from the start. There were two of them in the company. ^^ And JYP gave him full support when he came out to create Big Hit, including personal. They still have great relationships. Very few in any industry where mutual respect for each other's creative craft did not falter.
Very good explaination...Hopely MHJ will send to jail soon...
Thank you sir for the explanation
Did you think that Bang didn't want something like TVXQ back then happened again in his own company? Because we all know the story about JYJ leave the company and the group because of some offers with fast money. And it's all started with one of the member parent and then try to convince another members to join them and use the lacks in slave contract (as people who is get to know kpop with their businesses, old gen was like didn't know and understand about the whole contract and the parents just overwhelmed with the offers). Idols nowadays is much better to understand the contract. One of them is about that "slave contract" which old gen taught that all of the stuff is free. Also the consequences if they try to leave the company while the group still under the contract. Bang itself is an experienced producer so he knew a lot of major things while the lady looks like know some unseen minor things to shoot Hybe. At the end, it's about money after all. I wish there's no stupidity again happen, especially with popular names like them. The girls need to thinking about this wisely for sure. Hybe itself right now maybe ten times much bigger than SM in 2010. And obviously the government implicitly right behind them. Yeah, government. Korean government already makes a lot of deal through BTS popularity and capitalism in Korea is so real.
That last point... why does bts have to endure all of this bs from everyone and from every direction... I want everyone and their grandma to know that bts is the last thing they should try to hurt. This is about something that gives so much strength, energy and life to so many people. I don't like that people use this while not even understanding it.
@@jtime8929 ~ first, I'm not attacking bts. My point above is Korea literally get a lot of advantages from bts popularity and the government makes a lot of good deals because of that. In some point Hybe has a bit more advantages so NJ really need to make a decision wisely because we all know that this kind of war affecting NJ's future. The idols always becomes the victim while the higher people busy making money over the idol's name and popularity, just like what happened between TVXQ and JYJ. The idols deep down to the never ending internal conflicts while SM, CJES, AVEX, etc still making money over the drama. The girls really need to know the case correctly before making decision to stay or leave with Ador. They're still a newbie to face this kind of difficulty with explosive news media since Hybe is the wealthiest KPop agency right now.
@@Ena2010 Yes yes, I didn't think that you where attacking BTS, I'm sorry if it came across as that. I think you have many good points! It's true that NJ are still too young and I feel like they truly, as you said, have to think this tru. My comment also lamented about the fact, that BTS has had many instances where they have been taken advantage of or tried to. You are right about people getting a lot out of them. Even I as an adult would feel pressure if faced with this situation so I hope that young artists stay safe!
I like how u explain everything to us the public of this outrageous dispute of hostile take over .it just simply greedy people with to much time on their hands ,basically hype has play their game , and win this wasted of time on such nonsense! 👦🎶👍
Thank you for the break down john.
Thank you for your explanations.
Both groups have different styles of music. NJ is more rnb focused. There are slight similarities in my opinion but like you say it is a non issue. Her planning to take the company predates this debut! She is just using it as an excuse and the parents are silly
I am looking forward that you make another video after Min Hee Jin new conference call. Who is the real evil here 😂
I just had a horrible thought, if she really intended to destroy ADOR’s reputation and New Jeans would be the shining flagship… wouldn’t destroying New Jeans reputation be the fastest way to do it?😬😡😡. Just pretending to be their protector but secretly digging up dirt…. Sorry, I probably shouldn’t share my horrible thoughts….
Twoje przypuszczenie może być prawdziwe a najlepsze w tym wszystkim jest to, że te dziewczyny dalej jej ufają. No i wyjaśnia się trochę z albumem V, że nie poszybował wysoko bo już niecny plan działał a była za niego odpowiedzialna. Jest dużo ludzi chcących zniszczyć Hybe i próbują różnych metod wychodząc z założenia, że w brudnej wodzie można więcej ryb złapać stąd dezinformacja, wypuszczanie plotek, oskarżanie niewinnych, podburzanie fandomów itd. Uwierzyła, że dorówna prezesowi ale to nic nowego, bowiem pycha kroczy przed upadkiem.
@@Ja-tu7plThe auditors must have found something, otherwise HYBE wouldn’t have just said (I’m just paraphrasing) : ok, whatever, can you now do your job and get in touch with the auditors…
A narcist/psychopath stratigically never respond but keep blaming and distracting ( outrage marketing) and are always the victim of what they did create. Always twisting their words and no accountability whatsoever
great video, earned a sub
Thank you, I understand better now
i can't seem to understand why Korean people are starting to sympathise with her? i saw many comments about how her only wrong was her being wokaholic and she is doing everything because of her passion towards New jeans. But doing all these is considered workaholic and passion in Korea? 🤷
Meh, it's online people. There is a difference between netizen comments and general people
@@MewDenise okayy😥 i thought she really did end up succeeding in fooling them...cause no matter how i look at it all i can see is her acting weak and that too at it's best.
@@gopikae.g.5786I'm saying. I was getting concern reading these tweets trying to make excuses for her and even demonize Hybe/Bang Shi hyuk in the process.
After the 50/50 drama... Here comes Ador vs Hybe... but this one is more interesting... It's all about the MONEY2x...
She still hasn't turned over her laptop. Which is illegal in an audit.
*Her media play is all Smoke and Mirrors...
All these actions gonna look real bad in court. Not only non compliance is illegal,it looks like she got stuff to hide. The judge doesn't like that.
Why are Koreans supporting her after the press conference? Are we missing something. Did she prove the allegations wrong?
Nope. They have strong emotional thing for the weak. Such a long history of oppression and unfairness from rich and powerful. Not logical but really sad actually.
So stressed but I stand bts
You were talking about scheduling. And just today Namjoons second album was announced. And the release date is the exact same as New Jeans planned comeback date!
She did whatever she wants....so even the parent company should bow down to her? Even when she allegedly was trying hostile takeovers and calling them something akin to mfers and sobs? Where is logic in that?
@@komerican-og I dont know if you understood me right. But I meant that she clearly didnt check any schedules, like you said or did it deliberately to have a negative impact on New Jeans comeback to lower their value. Namjoons album might be totally different genre and style, but at least real armys will be faithful to that more than to NJ comeback. I hope NJ girls get support and help in all this, I was happy that Hybe in their statement said they will give NJ all possible support.
@@tinaaikaa77 It is entertainment sources information so we can not be sure. However, there seem to have been some continuous disrespect according to many sources. Who knows. Bang can be a lot of things but he has been comparatively very attentive and fair to his artists. Lets hope for the best. We all need to protect the idols foremost.
oh my didn't know that, now that is interesting information.
MHJ is unworthy to be a CEO. She is unworthy to supervise minors. She should contemplate her actions while sitting in jail. It would be good for her.
The only problem is that ADOR isn't publically traded (not valued publically) so you can't buy options on it. Which makes me suspect that screenshot is fake news.
What screenshots
She was offered the buy option as reward for her work, I believe it was noted in the latest financial report of HYBE that she exercised it beginning of 2024.
Merci pour cette explication
You said source music was subsidiary before it was Big Hit. Not Correct.
Big Hit Entertainment came first, then BTS became successful after being trainees for 3 years and debuted, after 2 years. They started winning music shows in 2015, and they won their first Daesang (first prize) in 2016. That's when they really started to take off. I don't know when, but Big Hit Entertainment became so successful due to BTS's Global success, that they started to acquire subsidiaries, and in 2021, Big Hit Entertainment split off into 2 different parts. HYBE Corporation (which became a public entity), and Big Hit Music (which stayed private, and is BTS's label, along with TXT and Lee Hyun, as well as each BTS members' solo projects). Source Music was acquired by HYBE. The parent company of BTS. They have, I believe, six labels so far that they have acquired for South Korea's HYBE. There are two other branches. HYBE America, which has subsidiaries, one being ITHACA HOLDINGS. And HYBE JAPAN, which has some subsidiaries as well. The reason they broke off is so they could diversify and expand their markets in Entertainment.
You stated that CEO is Chairman of the Board - so how is it that HYBE's CEO is Park Jiwon, and the Chairman of the Board is Bang Si-hyuk? Bang PD stepped down from being HYBE's CEO, but hung onto the Chairman of the Board. Can you be the owner of the company and not be CEO? Because that is what I understood the situation to be.
In a corporate setting, you can be the owner and not the CEO. Corporation usually have more than one owner hence why it was made a corporation. Think Steve Jobs (Apple), Google (a diff CEO), majority of corporations owner(shareholders) don't hold the CEO position. Chairman of the Board (head of the board of Directors), since Hybe became a publicly traded company. At the end of the day, any major decisions in the corporation will be decided not by the CEO but by the Board of Directors (comprising of major shareholders).
Bang PD is the Chairman of the Board which means he is head of the Board of Directors. The CEO reports to the Board of Directors and carries out the decisions of the board. A Chairman who is the founder of a company can lose control of the company if the board of directors band together and vote against his/her wishes. This is why Chairmans try to keep the board stacked with their supporters. Steve Jobs is a fine example of how he lost control of his company. His vision was different from the board and they voted him out. When the company began to tank, they brought him back. MHJ has stacked the Ador board with her supporters. Thus the reason they have refused to call a board meeting at Hybe's request.
I agree with the author of this channel that Hybe can step in and take over Ador based on ownership shares. Politically, Hybe is handling it correctly just based on MHJ's press conference. She is trying to establish the narrative that Goliath is oppressing her (David) because she raised a "whistleblower" issue of one label copying her work with NJ. By Hybe showing legitimate business reasons that a crime has been committed (sharing proprietary, confidential trade secrets with competitors), her dismissal is for legitimate business reasons and not because they just want to get rid of a strong women who challenges them. Although copying her work is not ethically right, Ador is a business unit of Hybe and they have the right to use the same concepts with another business unit if they so choose. She was handsomely rewarded for her work with a salary bump and equity ownership of the business unit (label). Hybe even publicly gave her credit for her success with New Jeans. It is messy, but if Hybe really has proof of the alleged transgressions, they will win in a court of law. As of today, MHJ is winning in the court of Korean public opinion. I think international fans are viewing all of this through a different cultural lens, thus they view MHJ and her press conference performance differently.
This is a huge lesson to Bang PD that he needs to get his house in order and properly manage these labels ethically and fairly. He now has the status of a conglomerate and he is becoming a player in the international music industry. If he wants to play with the big boys, he needs to tighten his ship at home. He has another fox in the hen house with Scooter Braun and has put him on the board. If he is not careful, he can have another coup in his own house because he has unethical people driving the ship. The culture and tone of an organization is set at the top. If he participates in or tolerates unethical and divisive behavior in the organization, he will continue to have problems.
솔직히 민희진의 기자회견보고 무슨 하이브 대기업 vs 혼자라고들 힙하다고 하는데
민희진은 수천억대 ceo임..본질이 솔직히 변하는건없다고 생각됨..본인이 억울해서 여론이 바뀌는것처럼 보이는데
르세라핌을 뉴진스보다 더 밀어주고 하는 결정권은 방pd한테 있는 구조임(억울하면 네돈으로 하던가)
애초에 민희진은 뉴진스 만든 힘이 오직 자신한테만 있다고 생각했기때문에 이런 구조를 못받아들이는거고감정의 골이 깊어진거일 뿐이라고 본다...고로 잘못은 민희진한테 있다고 생각됨...
So an evil plan only gets legitimate, if executed well! Got you, and thanks for the advice!
Wow. How fascinating it is to know that people can hear what they wanna hear. AMAZING.. amazingly sad.
@@komerican-og And people can say what they wanna say and feel is important to share, so the truth can shine through all perspectives. Better than just copying and promoting, what has been said numerous times by others already.
shes gets away with so much. she acts like ador is not a subsidiary. its so hard for her to follow simple instructions. everything hybe/ceo jiwon did seems wrong to the point they get frustrated with her. she nitpick everything, and complains about everything. the kakao messages says it all, she rants and scold ceo jiwon all the time even belittle bang shi hyuk behind his back. i mean, if you are so stubborn and bossy, i dont get why she didnt just start her own independent company instead of joining hybe. hybe wants her help in the beginning but she can always says no.
Wait a minute. Something doesn't make sense. If MHJ is naive and has no sense of how business works, is it likely she came up with the stock-crashing plan? Going "long" or "short" on a company stock requires some fairly sophisticated analysis of the company's strengths, weaknesses, and long-term business prospects. It's not something a naive person would try to jerryrig into existence using Arab and Singapore money, which she may not even had the connections for. There are other executives mentioned in the complaint but so far no attention has been paid to them or what their roles in all this might be.
So I wonder if this was actually someone else's plan that they got MHJ to buy into (if she is involved) with the promise of greater attonomy and became their "cut out," the person who would be the fall guy if it failed. It might account for her tear-filled press conference where she might be guilty of some of the charges, but also truthful in her belief that she's being framed as guiltier than she actually is.
This is going to make a great Kdrama when we actually figure out what's going on...
I find it rich that Ms Min wants to claim that the other group was copying NJ. I have nothing against NJ they are a very good group but their style which Ms Min is claiming the other group copied is straight from every 80’s and 90’s girl group from the West and Kpop. I would argue that they are drawing inspiration from the same original source material she is.
She’s also playing into the fact these fan are all young and know nothing of the 80’s and 90’s so to them this look all new
When she makes those statements I was like “hold up, whose copying who here”
Look for my comment on IP matter. Music style is not something you can protect. However, so-called style and concept are also impossible to protect legally in thus case. They are both putting together existing or existed components like putting together a wardrobe. It is a great skill to do it well but not exactly IP. Literally nothing is wholy original. If NJ can protect this then whole lot of people should be able to sue them for high-school uniforms, 5 girl group, elvish photoshoot etc. None of it are original so no one can sue. Lol
In the UK it 'a conspiracy to commit a crime'' which you can go to prison for.
I believe the GP are siding with MHJ because they somehow relate to her situation, especially as most are employees who may strongly empathise with feeling 'undervalued' for their hard work-a sadly common experience. As for Knetz, most are strongly driven by emotions (based on the past entertainment-related issues), and the cancel culture is really a thing there not thinking on the business side of this issue. Business is business-not to justify it, but considering the video's point of view, even an 18% share might be considered generous.