Hybe Planning a LONG Hiatus for NewJeans? Hybe vs Ador Feud
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- Опубліковано 15 чер 2024
- Welcome to another episode of my totally legit Kpop news show, where we talk about all the recent juicy kpop ongoings! Today we're taking a dive into more updates regarding the Hybe vs Ador feud, with more accusations of plagiarism and now apparently plans for NewJeans to go on hiatus.
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TIMESTAMPS
0:00 NewJeans’ Parents’ Email
3:42 NewJeans in Distress
6:01 Illit Mocked NewJeans?
9:00 Bang Si Hyuk Ignored NewJeans’ Greetings?
10:46 Hybe Unfair Treatment of NewJeans
13:22 Illit Copying NewJeans
18:40 Netizens Reaction to the Email
20:12 Hybe’s Response
23:04 NewJeans to have a long hiatus?
25:54 Hybe Trying to Erase Newjeans?
27:16 Public Opinion of Illit and Le Sserafim - Розваги
![[Jeans' ZINE] 제2회 엉망잔칭 토론회 EP.1 데자부🤦♀️ | NewJeans](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/FN_KHxXZC0k/mqdefault.jpg)
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The fact that all this is happening so early on in NJ career is so insane to me.. greed, power and money is such a scary thing which is all this is really coming down to..
To me it's as you say greed, but mixed with careless and ignorant copying and multiplying (or at least trying to) of every possible trend. The whole agency minus a few sublabels has been like this the whole time, debuting idols in a rush to make profit, without even properly training them. And now it's come to sublabels eating each other because of lack of creativity and need for taking each others work. It's become ridiculous at this point and it's all backfiring at them.
NJ caught lightning a bottle, HYBE never for saw this which is why they agreed to give MHJ 20% but intended to use her for their own group’s brands.
Now they realize they’re cutting extra millions of profit from NJ, for MHJ so they produced their own group similar to NJ while the iron was still hot while trying to phase NJ out so they can claim 100% of ILLIT’s profit.
In terms of kpop group lifespans, it’s not really that early anymore, crazy as that seems. It’s already been almost 2 years!
@@JillJessicaJennyuse her?? Of course she gets fkng pay $2 million us dollars a year!! How stupid of HYBE not to use her!!
@@annabethyeung8512don't forget that NJ group got reclute during the pandemic or before if I'm not wrong but because of covi they have to wait.
At this point in time, we can actually agree that hybe is cursed when it comes to girl groups since day one.
Yeah, because of CEO Bang. What CEO thinks to copy and shelve their main successful girl group, just to push a new group without their own concept or sound??? He is the reason his girl groups have a hard time. His success with BTS has gone to his head.
@@brownbeauty7429Armys have been saying that last line ever since that txt collab with Jonas bros and his expectations of it... But what he's doing to NJ is the height of cruelty and just evil.
G friend randomly disbands for no reason after being bought by hybe. Both LSF and ILLIT started off as a 6 member group and one had to leave.. Both groups faced huge controversies for "bad vocals". Newjeans is not being treated as well as LSF and ILLIT and will likely be neglected if MHJ leaves. I think Hybe should stick to boy groups.
I joked abt that but this might actually be a real curse.
This is honestly so sad. Imagine in 20 years “NewJeans gained a lot of attention for their fresh concept, but after only a couple of years a legal battle saw them silently fade out of the idol industry, their success was massive but short lived.” It feels like they will be known as one of those groups that just got unlucky… I hope it doesn’t happen…
Delete this so it doesn’t manifest 😭
highkey they're too big for that. especially in Korea. people would riot
@@m1r__ I certainly hope you’re right. Fck hybe if they mistreat them 😭
@@beaboy777 I’m sorry 😭😭😭😭
Hope that happens as New Jeans are so overrated and untalented. They also make terrible music. No visuals, no talent and no good songs.
Trading NJ for ILLIT is insane 😭
Cry
Insane!! NJ is my favorite girl group. This situation is pure nonsense because of CEO Bang.
New Jeans are just as untalented, both Illit and New Jeans have bad encores. New Jeans fans are so delusional.
@@vixxexo6855not all people have good taste 😢
@@vixxexo6855not as bad as illit’s, and at least new jeans has really good dance skills
i honestly don't see newjeans continuing as a group if minheejin leaves
Yeah, like Without mhj what is the concept gonna be like?
It’s insane to me how many people have taken a side and are stating things as fact. It’s all a bunch of he said she said at this point and I’m just waiting for solid evidence on either side to come out. I think they’re both probably doing not so great things in the background and they’re both money/power hungry.
What a cop out
@@calyyygrazie8 yeah it’s such a cop out because I want actual facts to form my opinion lol sorry I’m not just going to blindly believe some CEO or a giant company.
putting the girls in a very long hiatus while they're at the peak of their careers is just insane. well I guess they really wanna get rid of the illit vs NJ comparison by putting the other grp aside and feed the ppl with illit's music. ggwp to the first kpop gg that I really liked lmao.
HYBE is phasing out NJ so they can increase ILLIT brand all for the sake of 100% profit and not having to share any of its 20% to MHJ.
It worked for blackpink but it certainly doesn’t work for every group. And if the feud didn’t happen I wouldn’t have batted an eye. But because of the feud it does really seem they are trying to get rid of them: put the, on a long hiatus and hope the fan will forget them
Illit can follow NewJeans path now but the question is how long? NewJeans doesn’t leave them very long path. Illit is not the same generation as NewJeans. They are the same generation of Babymonster, Kiss of life. Hybe just ruined both group reputation.
@@veewooshi9882 I mean yeah, the 1yr and 6months of hiatus after this year's comeback is quite obvious of what they trying to do. plus, ador announced that there would be a world tour next year.
@@AnHuynh01101 what u saying is quite confusing but there's a big possibility that hybe will try overhauling newjeans' overall aesthetics and concept hence to the long hiatus to avoid them becoming illit's direct competition. since illit is Bang's brainchild for sure they will be prioritized over newjeans.
I think HYBE wants to have NewJeans fade away like Fromis_9 and Gfriend.
So crazy it's their group they spent $$$ on them on their training since the pandemic or before how would they loose a group that makes money.
How?? They had spent a lot of $$$ they got hire since the pandemic
@@BTSISMYHAPPYPLACE4VER 🙄 read please the comments!!
the email is wriitten by min hee jin herself,she just let involve the members parents only to get the situation of fifty fifty.
who the fuck said lesserafim is gonna fall not even in yr drmzzz.
before MHJ was fired there's talk of Newjeans world tour but now hybe is talking of Newjeans going on hiatus for at least 1yr 6mths? is hybe giving Newjeans the fromis_9 treatment? fcuk hybe!!!😡😡😡
Talk by whom? Not from HYBE but I do think they'll need a little bit of time to recover mentally from this situation. There are so many clickbait sites now that are starting rumour's and promoting hearsay.
Wait MHJ got fired?
@@Awkwardhhh I don't think that's happened yet as the court case hasn't been heard. I've not heard she's stepped down either. One never know's what clickbait sites are peddling at the moment either. Best wait for an official announcement from HYBE.
@@Awkwardhhh her fate will be known later this month when the shareholders' meeting will vote to fire her and since hybe has 80% shares it's likely she will be fired😔
A world tour with 11 songs? That sounds like a scam to me.
i think hybe has too many subcompanies. I think some companies have too many groups. It's just asking for conflict.
Bro it’s not the problem. The problem is this sub hire exactly the same crew and staff worked with another group 1 year ago. If they do different categories, it is not a red flag but they did exactly what they did for another group is red flag there. Why 17 and TXT have no problem with BTS or BoyNextDoor. They did it on purpose. Hybe have power to stop or change it but they don’t because another group is under control of Hybe management.
That is exactly what I thought hybe system have been built to collapse especially that they have been debuting an egregious amount of groups
@@AnHuynh01101I disagree, every company who has a lot of group have their downfall. They stop paying attention to certain ones or favoritism. They need to stop debuting a group every second.
They’re essentially cannibalizing themselves.
@@sanasouou6144 this is not the problem here though??? This is bsh's plan backfiring on him, it wouldn't have happened and all these groups would've existed in peace if someone didn't blatantly attempt to copy and replace NJ, and before ppl say they aren't original either, that's fine, but no one in that company came up with that concept on their own or produced that successful a gg and allegedly weren't keen on the concept and didn't allow them to advertise themselves for a while after LS's debut. Only group not getting attention there is Fromis, literally the only one.
New Jeans is definitely being used as a shield and unfortunately until the drama finishes unfolding their career will be impacted. Hybe definitely seems upset that the drama is impacting all the other groups under Hybe negatively. Hybe might be putting NJ on hiatus to see if they can still be profitable without NJ. It will come down to which side the group and parents align with. The term “original concept” implies it hasn’t been done by anyone before and I don’t think that applies to either.
Getting more obvious HYBE's endgame for NewJeans; aka lower their hype with a "Long Hiatus" while elevating Illit's brand even more with no active cannibalistic competition. Remember, HYBE has to share 20% of all NJ's profit with MHJ, but they make 100% of their profit with Illit, so if Illit can be as big as NJ, the profit share is strictly 100% in HYBE's control. 💰💰💰
P.S.
Why would it take HYBE allegedly 1.5 years to find a grammy producer to work with NewJeans? Who are they trying to kid? NJ would be one of the most desired artists to work with there would literally be a line. Yeah, don't buy this excuse. 🙄
Yup HYBE was planning on phasing out NJ all along. They couldn’t even hide it when they released their statement today.
Does Hybe have 100 percent share on BeLift Lab now ?
Picturing HYBE having a "producer bootcamp" and BSH asking people like Jack Antonoff and Metro Boomin to produce songs to fit NJ and he'll make the final decision lol
And why would NewJeans want a Grammy producer anyway? Sounds cringy. They have the best in the business already.
But why do they wanna sabotage NJ? At the end of the day, they all belong to Hybe right? They’re also profiting from NJ. Why are they considered a completion? It’s not like they’re from a different company or something.
I mean bang shi hyuk used to ignore taehyung and it took him over a year to know his name not surprised
The fact that Taehyung has worked with Min Heejin on his solo album 🤭
Yeah, as if he had tons of trainees on his hands
Well, then he was trying to keep the ship afloat and now he is the president of an expanding multinational company, with multiple labels, artists and many more trainees.... The guy has lot of things to manage to expect him to behave like a politician on elections.
@@nehalilisaysthat’s why it was a hit and not boring like rms ( I don’t hate rm but his new song felt something what a grandpa would release )
@@zoz.http.com.1finally someone said it. RM's songs just put me to sleep. All that talent and potential and he makes a snoozefest.
Did it have to take THIS to make people realise what HYBE's and Bang Si Hyuk's interests really are? He doesn't care about NewJeans, he just wants to make profits out the groups HE believes should be successful, not the ones who actually do have potential. I believe Bang Si Hyuk from the start didn't root for NewJeans like MHJ said, but when he saw their success, he said, oh really? Bet I can debut a new girl group that I do take interest in, put a NewJeans wig on them and make them surpass NewJeans, since that was clearly, not his idea. I just feel like he has this ego and just roots for the groups HE had a say in, like BTS and Le sserafim, but NewJeans or Fromis_9 for example, he wants to neglect them.
Well DUH, why else would he make a whole goddamn company if he didn’t want the moolah?
He doesn’t to make money from any other group because he can get a lot pf it from BTS, 17 and TXT. He just want to prove that he can make a girl group as success as BTS. His first move recruited the best in this field, MHJ. Let’s her cook. After that do the same thing with another GG. He tested the public and MHJ. Now he can kick MHJ and put NewJeans under the dust and disband them.
There are many men with this ego maniac complex…I’m working with some right now. They won’t acknowledge or credit anything successful that do not come from their own hands…even we are one of the teams thats making money. It is mind boggling but they exist 😂
It's not about Bang Si Hyuk. There are dozens of very wealthy and influential people in running the K-Pop industry. It's absolutely stunning how many people believed these companies were great when it's just a whole money and ego facade. Just look at how easily idols' personal info and signatures are thrown around like chess pieces for business trades or how easily it is to manipulate a chart with a few thousand bucks. The only reason why K-Pop is thriving instead of going down a hellhole is because money and influence is really great at keeping things silent. Bang Si Hyuk and the rest of the industry are really great at manipulating people especially the young audience.
@@andtipideeBang Si Huyk can survive because he gave BTS a shareholder of Hybe. BTS can not leave the boat. That means he get back up by Army.
This whole situation is insane. The only thing that makes sense is jealousy. Why wouldnt you be proud of a group you basically own? They're making you money. It seems like Min Hee Jin is right. This is jealousy. He couldn't stand seeing a group marketted as her group did better. He would rather sabotage them than allow them to make him a ton of money. It's wild...
Maybe he's more than satisfied with the money he already has and is more interested in gaining prestige.
I Agree its giving jealousy and GREED and we all know the downfall of every good thing is always tide to greed which is wild cause he has BTS why not allow MHJ have NWJ like they make you tons of money all he had to do was create a fresh concept within the Y2K the guy has billions and your telling me he couldn’t hire anyone with fresh and creative ideas 🙃
he always been that way, greedy and jealousy.
Greedy nasty man
Min Heejin is the jealous and greedy person. Without Hybe and BTS, Min Heejin is a nobody. Even for Flop Jeans newest release Bubblegum they copied Shakatak’s Easier Said Than Done.
Btw some people really don't understand the creative process and it shows. Piecing together old nostalgic themes to form something new and fresh while paying homage to those things is literally normal in the art world. On the other hand, directly copying your contemporaries with no other reason than that its "popular" is frowned upon.
the fact they are going on hiatus after a 9 MONTH BREAK??
They aren't on a break tho... They are literally doing concerts and touring
they are doing a fan meet in june and announced a world tour coming 2025 (confirmation on dates/timing soon, it was announced last week of march), similar to LSF who did a fanmeet as a trial run before having their concerts half a year later
Worse, 18 month
@@greenboy5314 WHATTTT
I’m so tired of this. The poor group members (all the groups) are being dragged through the mud. All of this is also nuts NewJeans makes a ton of many for the company. What the heck are these companies doinggggg
Let hybe taste their downfall from negative profit and stock crash without NJ
@@BTSISMYHAPPYPLACE4VER source: you
@@BTSISMYHAPPYPLACE4VERif NWJNS fails, Hybe’s reputation will plummet and ILLIT will flop by association, unfortunately.
@@BTSISMYHAPPYPLACE4VERThe only thing that would help them get back into the public’s good graces would be when BTS resumes group activities.
@@BTSISMYHAPPYPLACE4VER Bang pd is not the sweet old guy you armies think he is i dont think mhj is trying to bring nwjns down with her? You should probably get into detail about that thug company
Mhj is not that innocent either but hybes seriously the worse
Imagine being 50 and having feud with literal teenagers ijbol
The irony with the poll is with all these issues, ILLIT and LSF are still at top10 of Melon charts, so while netizens are hating them, a lot of people are still listening to their music
I believe people are listening to Le ssarafim but not ILLIT. Hybe is playing dirty to make it look like ILLIT can replace NJ. But the impact is not the same. I remember how in 2022 you couldn’t hide from a NJ song. And the funny thing is that they weren’t even promoted. They released their music and through word of month people go to listen and never stopped listening. You cant fight organic success.
Hybe shouldn't not be putting newjeans on hiatus but illit - they need to rebrand those girls or just train them more
Yeah, if they didnt re brand them they will always be labeled as "newjeans copycat", and train them more so they will not be hated cuz " bad singing"
I just can't really bring myself to care which side "wins" out of MHJ or Hybe. Only ones I'm worried for are NewJeans, LeSserafim and Illit. Really hope they make it through this.
Same
For new jeans is more complicated
I'm good wo illit
@@savagerihnobody cares what you think, you're insignificant both online and in real life
sameeee this gonna need the courts to decide. NJs either gonna come back or they gonna end up like Fifty Fifty
MHJ will get kicked out. NJ will probably have a hiatus for a while. They will have a comeback maybe next year or the year after. But how successful will the comeback be, is something time dependent, considering how the members and most importantly the parents have strained their relationship with Hybe. Time heals all wounds.. Or money will! Lol! So maybe they ll all patch up for good or for profit.. lets see...
I don’t think the NJ girls would lie abt not being greeted 😭hybe is just throwing out nonsense to defend themselves atp. I don’t buy hybe’s clarifications they’re def trying to put NJ on a hiatus for a long time it’d be a strategic move to pretty much get rid of NJ, how evil of him
@@BTSISMYHAPPYPLACE4VER bc he makes more than enough with the groups he currently has. You yourself are a bts fan, everyone knows bts brings in loads of cash every yr, hybe just can’t stand seeing another group blow up like NJ did especially bc he didn’t create that group🤷🏻♀️
@@BTSISMYHAPPYPLACE4VER Cuz he only has 80% acquisition of Ador and on the other hand, he has 100% holding of Belift. He simply wants to make more money by using a concept and formula well tested in the market by Newjeans and mind you, the ILLIT girls haven't even trained properly and can't sing.
@@BTSISMYHAPPYPLACE4VERarmy and their obsession riding bang si hyuk dick 😂
@@BTSISMYHAPPYPLACE4VER It would make sense as a huge conglomerate. It's called acquiring a company to destruction. It started in the 80's by huge wall street investment firms to kill a smaller company's competition. This is how they can micromanage, sabotage, get insider information and cut the company in smaller parts to relocate amd absorb it in a profitable way.
I think there is a movie about it where they are very specific about the terminology called Wall Street. So it does make sense. When you are a conglomerate it's easier to take advantage of the industry and create oligarchy. For instance she was allowed to get trainees from another company. That shouldn't be OK, but it was given. If anything is competing with the umbrella company - that would be hybe and causing for instance a failure to get more profit due to the other group that is having more cuts in profit at the expense of other ggp growth than it would make even more sense. Sorry for my bad English.
Why can’t they lie? It came from ador company & hybe themself said she wrote it?
I worked in PR and marketing for 15 years, including entertainment PR. I am not ready to take a “side” yet. What we are seeing now are a series of legally-crafted PR volleys going back and forth. It’s a publicity game on both sides aiming at subtly influencing potential future judicial proceedings.
I would bet that there is a lot more grey area in the motivations and actions on both sides. I also think that this is really not about NewJeans or any of the other groups. It’s about money and corporate power…on both sides. I don’t see BSH or MHJ as master villains or paragons of virtue. I think a lot more ugliness goes on behind the scenes in ALL companies, from trainees to execs.
My advice is be calm, be critical of all sides, be civil always and compassionate when impartial proof is presented. It costs nothing to be the bigger person.
Most importantly, follow the money and read the really boring financial and legal documents as they are released or presented at trial. That’s the heart of this. Guaranteed.
And finally, just enjoy the music. Whoever you like, whatever song gets you jamming, just be thankful for the artists, production teams, and average employees who bust their butts for a regular paycheck. Likes and kind comments lift us all up. ❤️
I agree. So far it seems MHJ is better at playing the audience, but we'll see. I doubt this is the last of it.
Finally a calm take, I'm so sad that both groups, music and CHILDREN are getting hurt because money and corporate power, this is one of the many kpop machine issues, I think it would be a lot more laid back if they weren't children
The he said/she said stuff set aside. The apparently missing/lacking court worthy proof for assorted claims and allegations likewise by the former lovebirds likewise. The one thing that can be be concluded with 100% certainty is: This spectable is rather bad PR for Hybe
Whatever that went on in the Hybe building I cannot think of any scenario where there was not large structural, professionally, management and leadership failures at play. Wonder how Investors, sponsors, shareholders and their likes will react? They don’t like any of that stuff to say it at least
uhhh I wish they also wrote an email when they made their kids sing cookie?
if they did we wouldn’t know bc that an Ador only issue
I want to see you taste it. Don’t break it. 😮
cookie was american slang for that, im not surprised the parents didnt reach out. even if they did, why would the fans know😭 how do you know the parents werent upset
Wasn’t the song cookie one of the reasons why people didn’t want to Stan new jeans because of the connotations behind the word “cookie”
Lol it's just a américain slang every others country didn't know about your weird Minds 😂. The song is about cooking music. Cookies are the CD. @@vjstigall
Well, maybe Illit will be the last hybe's girl group because of these controversies
Katseye is debuting this year so maybe Katseye will be the last gg to debut for a while
同感。ハイブは日本人を入れたグループを日本芸能界参入のためにどうしても作り、売りたかった。日本以外の国ではこのやり方は失敗して反感を買って、ハイブはILLITとルセラフィムのために消え去ると思う、
@@sama4248 Never knew about them. Will check them out. Thanks
@@sama4248yeah i agree with both of you, especially when a member from fromis9 of pledis also shared her dismay about not having comebacks. I think hybe's specialty is boygroup. They almost succeeded with le sserafim tho. But i think gg's are like a jinx to the company
The last and the worst...
NO NEWJEANS GOT ME INTO K-POP WITHOUT THEM IM GOING TOO 😒 HYBE ceo is soo selfish like us fans WANT AND NEED NEWJEANS ❤ idc HOW many groups sound like NEWJEANS it doesn’t matter since its not the same and never will be no matter how many times hybe try copying them. ✋🏼
Honestly what I believe is that these are all company grievance issues and could be very well settled privately within the company boundaries. Not everything ought to be brought out in the open for the world to see. It's just so messy and unprofessional on both the parties' part. All that's been happening is the groups involved being dragged in the mud. I really hope that all of this gets resolved soon.
But only one party brought it to the public and left the otter side scrambling to defend themselves from public scrutiny
@@calyyygrazie8 Yeah that's why they shouldn't have made it public. They could've peacefully conducted the audit and if the other party was found guilty then they could've made it public. Announcing without any definitive evidence has just caused a mess. There are just all kinds of speculations causing harm to everyone. Nobody is benefitting from all this drama.
You know the funny thing about this? Everyone is forgetting that illt also have parents.. how do you think their mothers will feel seeing their daughters dragged online like this. So pathetic 🙄
Right?
Well it's the companies fault that illit are Treated this way, they know how netizen can be but yet , they decide to use the girls for their schemes, we'll its not their fault anyway since they probably didn't know what they were getting theirself into, they are victims of hybe greed
Do you think Hybe cares? They intentionally did this for profit…
You know who also parents? The idols of RUNEXT that DESERVED to debut instead of pretty privilige minors lol 😂 this group was doomed from the start, yall decided to forget RUNEXT was a rigged show and trust these old rich men purposely picking the cute whitewashed minors and attack the group made by one of the FEW female CEOs that exist in the industry lmao
Imagine if bts parents got mad when nj was being promoted using bts name? The focus of this controversy should be about the accusation of breach of trust. Not getting innocent kids dragged over concepts that were never unique to begin with.
NewJeans is so iconic imo. I feel bad for all of involved musicians/artists in this nonsense.
Honestly when I first listen to Illit I really said why hybe is making another NJ. Can't they just make it not similar to each other. For your information I'm not a nj fan so I'm not biased towards them.
I don't always agree with the takes on this channel to be honest. I've avoided almost all Kpop "news" editorial in recent years, it got to be too much. But at least she's covering the Korean side, other English channels are absent in reporting at lot of the real news coming out. They stick to outrage based on mistranslations. Do a search for "NewJeans or NewJeans parents, you'll get results about the Bubble Gum plagiarism, or 1 other low view count short. The HYBE machine is working overtime, I guess they have a harder time with a channel this size.
I too tend to disagree with angelina.
like when she said Le Sserafim's coachella performance was okay because at least they sang live. And she blamed us for idols not singing live because we critize if they are not good singers.... Like??? of course!! its their job!!! should we be grateful for the bare minimum???
@@laweafome528I think you should get a job
you're right...I checked the two songs and Min hee jin will have a hard time proving that she didn't "plagiarize" Shakata's music..group from the 80s and who reported not having been credited... .This woman buries Newjeans herself and If HYBE wants to protect this group it is obvious that a "break" would be welcome!!
@@laweafome528 i remember saying plenty of times throughout that video that you’re of course allowed to not vibe with a performance and criticize it, my opinion on something is not some dissertation on how you’re supposed to feel about it too!
How to block ILLIT from spotify?
MHJ cares about the girls of NWJNS, BSH does not.
Rube
@@seokjin3000 whateva
@@defmetauniverse ticket reference??
Care about them? When she is the one dragging them in this whole problem. Y'all are so naive. She is literally using newjeans as a shield.
U rn: 🤡
The fallout is there are 15 girls who may become collateral damage. Not to mention the girls who got played in RUNext. Hybe doesn't seem to care, it's all about ego, control, power and money. All 3 girl groups may fade away. Hybe's losing streak with GG continues. BSH wanted MHJ to destroy Aespa, too, because he had no talent to create a successful girl group to compete, until he learned from MHJ and copied it. Now MHJ and NJ are disposable. I wonder what Hybe's budget for media play is? Never had a scandal with BTS. Paying media to hype up Illit as the replacement for NJ. All the Payola to pump up social media, likes, charts, etc. Fly girls to Paris Fashion week before they had success, girls who unfortunately have trouble singing? Coachella for the other GG who embarrassed themselves on live stage? It seems Hybe is just trying to find the fast Cheat Code in Kpop to print money so they can be one of the Big 3 music companies in the world, regardless of the methods or the artist and talent.
In 10 years we will have videos detailing the dark history of NewJeans and the villain role of Hybe, just like DSP back in the day sabotaging them out of ego and power. I want to cry and PRAY that everything is alright for these poor girls. Look at Twice they are still going strong 10 years in the industry.
Is funny how Hybe is always using “we have evidence”, avoid answering the question with excuses and no show hahahaha
How are they going to have evidence of MHJ asking the parents to do that email unless they once again illegally invade her privacy again?
Hybe is a joke at this point.
They have a lot of evidence against min heejin and ador. What they're doing is waiting until court. Also, the audit team is the one who most likely is invading min heejin privacy, which is what they do to find evidence. Please read more about the case than relying on UA-camrs to tell you what they concluded.
@@_mel_21 hahaha what makes you think I only relied on youtubers? I have fact checked most of the things through korean news, articles and time of events.
They have nothing but submitted Kakaotalk and their so called evidence of planned event with NJ prents emailed but nothing about investors to the courts.
They failed to find anything through the illegal audit. Also, Hybe used media play to spread a falsely manipulated messages of MHJ which showed one side of the message rather than her showing both side of the message.
Lastly, during the court hearing BSH asked for “Petition for freedom creativity” even though the evidence of plagiarism was clear from Belift Lab side. More than 10 is not coincidence anymore but plagiarism.
I bet you didn’t even know they have done court hearing right? Now the courts will go through the submitted evidence of both parties till 24th May.
Read some news.
Love the camera up your nose point of view @29:20. Hope this becomes a trend with vloggers.
Angelina really does her research on this topic. Great video. It's a sad situation for the artist and the fans. Somehow everyone will lose 😓
He said she said moment. Just go to court, both sides provide evidence and settle it legally. This whole issue is a prime definition of trial by the press. The girls need their peace of mind for goodness sake 😔
Well their CEO is not cooperating😂😂😂 using public sentiment as cover, like it's not that deep go settle in court
@@Pere_lily True, if both parties think they are right, then just settle it in court. Bring your own evidence. This playground insult in media is just a tool that both parties been using to sway public opinion! Somehow they try to create an image with these back and forth statement. And these public opinion will may or may not affected the company share. Leading to whoever more likeable in the public's eye will be the winner. I bet whoever's trying to avoid court the most, is the more guilty party. Because in court, the decision is based on evidence. Not solely based on public opinion
New Jeans is special. the whole girl band seems like its crafted with passion, the image, the members, the music, its all very cohesive and interesting. its actually the first (if not, only) k-pop girlband i liked. MHJ undoubtedly have some magic on her hands. one of my dream scenario is that somehow, international music label is hiring mhj and they will be bigger than any other groups Hybe have
Well to be fair... And i hope only fairness will be reported... please discuss also Hybe's reply on the email of Ador... Cause there are also charges and accusation to the point it that authorities will be involved.
I find the most apalling out of all this to be Bang Sihyuk's indifference towards NewJeans. Blatantly ignoring them whenever he greets them has gotta be some mental issue or an inflated ego, but then to say that he's always so warm towards his other artists. I don't think his disagreement with MHJ was enough to treat literal teenagers like that as their boss
This is about law, business, documents and proof. Not about sensitive feefees.
Uhmm I have seen a clip where v from bts said the same thing that bang keeps ignoring his greetings and keeps forgetting his name it is nothing new but new jeans have to make everything about them is hilarious. Also newjeans parents are behaving as if they sent their child to some summer camp instead of entertainment industry where ppl clearly know how entertainment industry is dangerous for teenagers also not to forget mhj is pedo lol
@@Department_of_Justice and all those "laws, business, documents and proofs" can be backed up by how the chairman treats his artists. One of the main accusations towards Hybe is their mistreatment of NewJeans, you would be lacking rational thoughts if you think this is just a "sensitive feefees" moment, whatever that means
I don't believe he actually did that
@@Toy_In_Tub what mistreatment are we really talking about? That he did not return his greeting so let me tell u bang did not return V from BTS greeting too when they were in their debut era it is online u can look it up....now let me remind u some of the privileges that new jeans actually got first of all the huge funding and advertisement that got being a rookie group compared to all other established groups, the lavish penthouse, the top floor of hype building, several big brand deals all of a sudden that Blackpink and bts like members has to work hard for, and tons of payola. They are literally the most pampered ones in that co.pany who got everything on a gold platter and literally spoon fed
the more i see come out the more i think min heejin was truly trying to protect these girls. hybe has done awful things to bts' taehyung, neglecting formis_9, etc and now its come out he did the same with newjeans. i believe that he truly wants to control newjeans and their success, but knows he cant because of min heejin and thats why he wants her OUT. i also think thats why he made illit, to be a group to try to replace their image and make newjeans seem less unique and replaceable. watching R U Next, the members CRUSHED the girl crush concept and it seemed like thats what they were going to debut with. i was surprised when their concept was the complete opposite, but seeing how hybe has been acting, it kinda makes sense now.. i think min heejin has terrible aspects about her, but atleast she cares about the girls. without her, newjeans will absolutely be in jeopardy
BS. Amazing what a few alligator tears at a press performance will do for PR.
What awful things 💀
More BS is the fact that HYBE has nothing but claims, and when they ended up sharing some “evidence” to get public sympathy (evidence about hair stylist salary) people just laughed at HYBE’s face because their own evidence showed MHJ was trying to do right. Talk about real BS.
@@Department_of_Justice amazing how one statement from the company and it is the true of truth of it all. no wonder they called you all a cult
@@Fran-vt5xm i need you to do some real research on the mistreatment bts has endured, especially taehyung, and then come back.
The fact that MHJ and the stylist and everyone else at a door keeps admitting to crimes publicly and that’s not the first thing that you talk about??? And NewJeans fans are still defending her??? Like what is wrong with you people
why find a grammy award winning producer when newjeans already has 250??
Why would they want to Americanize NewJeans? They are perfect as they are!
@@scanspeak00 tbf newjeans music is pretty digestible to western audience but like why replace 250 when he produced songs like ditto, hype boy, and attention
Its just an excuse to put them in a long hiatus
and FRNK
I think they believe 250 will leave when MHJ goes.
People saying New Jeans should leave with MHJ are not thinking clearly about the girl's future. Hybe earns 80% of that company. Do you think it's easy? Think about who bought the rights to their name, their fandom name, music and many more. It will just be a legal battle. They might not win against Hybe, and the longer it goes on they won't promote and people lose interest. People say the fandom is strong but it has not even been two years since their debut. So people, please think about the girl's future in the long run. Most people who leave their company barely become successful if they haven't been in the industry long or have stable enough fandom.
Very true. They'd either have to pay Hybe for all their expenditures that was put into creating Ador and NJ, and also pay up for breaking their contract, an amount that apparently seems to be in the billions.
If MHJ cared, she should have kept them as far from this whole thing as possible. It's honestly a shame they publicly went to support MHJ, bc that's going to sour their future interactions with Hybe staff, who won't want to work with a grp they can't trust. So, it's likely the grp will end up in the dungeon until their contracts expire.
@@em5522 I don’t want them in the dungeon, but there is a contract so they can't just leave. The concept thing is taken too seriously, and in a few years New Jeans might change their concept. If not they will be like a YG girl group so we wait and see. Because is all of this really worth it if in a few years, they change their concept to something else? For example, BTS got accused of copying EXO because of the school concept but literally in a few years they both changed concepts. Some people remember, and some don’t. If they want to leave they have to pay fees for breaking a contract or file a lawsuit and win to leave delay and time to promote the songs. Ignoring people is rude but them leaving is not helpful only giving them debt. Why risk it?
Hybe wants to put NewJeans on hiatus for 18 months at least! They dont care about the girls at all, they are trying to replace them with Illit. I really hope ADOR, MHJ and NewJeans all leave Hybe. So many other companies will be dying to work with them and I guarantee Min Hee Jin is receiving many offers every day.
@@scanspeak00 Did you even listen to MHJ's lawyer? Hybe owes the rights to their songs, group name, brand deals and many more. If they leave they have to leave it with Hybe or pay to have the rights, which will be very expensive. They just started almost two years so neither New Jeans nor MHJ can afford that. And Ador and NJ can't leave. New Jeans signed a contract for, I think seven years. They can't leave unless they sue and win or have to pay their way out, but because it hasn't been that long, they don't have enough. Ador can't just leave Hybe owns 80% of the shares so unless someone buys the shares they are stuck with Hybe. If all of them could leave don't you think they would of left? And that idea would have been ok if they were five or more years into the career but almost two years is crazy. Starting for the beginning is not a good option when they are still recent and Hybe is big enough to ban them like SM did to members who left before their contract ended like Jessica and JYJ
@@scanspeak00 MHJ is staying now and now saying she hopes to be ok with Hybe after everything that happens because we know Hybe might treat them worse now because of all of this mess.
Illit doesn't have personality or unique appeal. they look like AI.
i feel like hybe should have exercised public restraint instead of airing out this conflict, i don’t particularly agree with mhj (i don’t think she invented the y2k aesthetic for one) , but it is kinda sus that hybe made everything so public.
both companies are profiting off of minors, the end.
@@m.ariaelisa like the entire industry in general lol
@@markigirl2757 yes! which is why we shouldn’t back companies 😂
But who said she invented it?
She never once claimed that she invented the y2k aesthetic lmfao.. Just read the letter the parents wrote and signed and educate yourself on the topic before developing opinions and writing about them in comments....
there’s no way hybe is gonna let new jeans go or keep min heejin on. i think new jeans should do a short hiatus after tokyo dome just for their mental health but 18 months is too long
Thank you for the content ❤
do the parents really get a list of the staff their kids work with? and then they managed to belift staff list too? Do they also have access to sick leaves, background checks n days off? That in itself sounds so weird. No to mention the whole rest of this letterete
Bunnies we have to do something. Whining here in every social media platforms has nothing to do to stop HYBE'S stupid plan . We should do an international protest . Bunnies should protest outside HYBE'S building.
Yes
Did anybody else see the kakaotalk messages of min hee jin talking bad about newjeans and saying horrible things about them? Is it true? Can you do a video on this its so much going on with newjeans i feel bad
Latest: NJ have officially handed in their petition to the court supporting MHJ. Look, Hybe can make whatever rumors attempting to break their ties but a mature bunny with logics can tell truth from all lies.
Those are true and those are showed in court. In court you can't present fake evidence ofc.
@@bumbee-li6hb you can provide fake evidence in court. It's just that as long as the court doesn't find out it's fake, it's ok. If court finds out it's fake, you'll have additional charges on you.
@@aniki3856 I know that, they will be charged if evidence is found fake. Since hybe already going through this much, they won't make it worse by presenting fake evidence in court.
All I can say is after all these chaos, I have never heard Belift Lab protect ILLIT.
People feeling bad about ILLIT. How about feeling bad about the girls who deserved to debut from RUNEXT lol
HYBE totally planned to debut the minors who could fit NJ concept, didnt care about who got whats needed, didnt even think about true TALENT 💀 The old man only cares about money, and hated not being able to control a woman CEO (sexism in Korea is alive and burning) and want to kick her out to put another old men in charge of the girls so he can milk a "concept" instead of letting them do music and explore their creativity
I mean every Kpop survival reality show is like that.
@@BTSISMYHAPPYPLACE4VER Lol maybe you don't know, there are a lot of different ways and vibes a singer can give to a song. Creativity isn't just about the lyrics, it also comes from the way a particular song is sung.
now that you say that i am believing it was planned cause how chanelle, jiwoo, jeemin, jihyun, did not debut with yunah and mini it didn't make sense then but do now cause he wanted njs concept wich honestly chanelle fit that concept which u seen after he started to try to push her to do cuter songs and when she couldn't do sum cuter songs he pushed her away and when she didn't get along with his main center for the group he kicked her off and youngseo also didn't't fight that concept well which is like she was removed from the line up to make it 5 on purpose
@@seal3081 nope... Runext was one of the worst survival series I ever seen... And I have been watching survival shows when ryujin from itzy was one of the contestants on it... And I have never felt more frustrated by any other show
@BTSISMYHAPPYPLACE4VER still a song provided by MEN and Older ones at that.
I feel like both sides of the story could be true. Bang Shi-Hyuk not being fond of NewJeans and their concept until they succeeded and he wanted to achieve the same with his own group doesn't contradict the accusations against Min Heejin, quite the opposite actually. I'm just not fully convinced that she was 100% serious about her plans to take over Ador because they seem so unrealistic.
I still don’t understand why we are focusing on the whole plagiarism thing. It felt like a diversion in the beginning and now it seems like the diversion worked.
This would be a good idea for NJ , they need to go through debriefing fist inorder for them to reintegrate to the company . They are still very young, and this timeout will actually help them mature better and be ready for a new chapter 😊
Why can't ador and newjeans parents just pay the breach of contract, so they can leave HYBE peacefully. So, this whole drama will come to an end. We've already been on too much episode already😅😂. I thought most kdrama was up to 16 episodes😂😂
Well it’s not cheap to pay up bruh.
@@eslnter Yeahh I know! But if they really wanna get out , there's always a way if they want to.
@@jiacentmaepalaca9757 well they can get out by proving Hybe breach of trust as well which they seriously doing it atm.
@@jiacentmaepalaca9757I don’t think newjeans members have enough to leave? I think it’s 1 million dollars
One of the most popular and profitable girl groups araund served on a silver platter to a competitor? Or worse: to a a new company lead by the troublesome lady that they just axed? They rather place them in the dungeon and throw away the key. They will not earn money and bragging rights on them, but so will nobody else
Angelina, Have you watched fellow UA-camr Seollite content. He goes into detail on the CEO of Ador plan against HYBE. It's really informative. It will give you a new POV on the subject?
Also waiting for the film from the elevator greetings!
They should really get off social and sit down at the courtroom to set it legally, and that's the best. They are throwing all alleged allegations at each other via social media or letters.
I don’t understand how people could defend Hybe, I really feel bad for new jeans and the others gril group they don’t deserve this mistreatment 😢
What mistreatment does nwjns face?
Exactly
Because hybe has their fave artists
@@lorineakoth834they’re being exploited…
@@alliebpaige How is this her fault they were mistreating the members copying there choreography and etc, plus they have done many disgusting thing to the the members of BTS like overworking. You Hybe fans don’t make sense at all.😑
Bang Si Syuk ignoring the girls on several occasions makes my blood boil; the NewJeans members do not deserve to be treated like disposables. They are kids at the EOD. Keep that between the adults.
It wasn't "multiple occasions", according to one of the girls parents, it was ONE time. Get your info from multiple sources instead of one rando on yt.
In America there is a saying..”there is no such thing as bad publicity” . Pretty much as long as the press and social media keep talking about Illit, New Jeans, and LeSserafim, they are relevant…whether its good or bad publicity. They are in the minds of the public….they have their attention (no pun intended lol ). As long as they are revelant, the groups getting bad publicity can change the narrative. Fortunately Hybe is a big name. They are in the ‘in-crowd’, so their groups have that advantage as far as exposure goes and built in fan bases. If those groups were in a smaller company, they very well could fall out of the public eye and get forgotten, after a controversy…remember Fifty-Fifty.. The situation is ugly at Hybe right now. But I hope people would act decent during this time and not throw hate at the Illit members. If anyone is mad, then they should send that frustration at the people in charge not the members. Those girls worked hard.
Honestly before this whole scandal, I did think they were really similar. Funny how this happened after I was thinking that 😮💨
Why would hybe want to sabotage their own group? They are financially invested
That's fr the weirdest part. Like this isn't plagiarism, but it makes no sense to make a second girl group with the exact same aesthetic as NJs and then use their same promotional staff for that girl group. Like that's just hurting your previous group as your making competition for that group by making another with the same appeal. Like how does that make financial sense lol.
Edit: spelling
Man ego
I hope a japanese label buys out ador and gives mhj full reign on creatives
That will never happen
Bang pd in an interview said he is "only close with BTS". Why are people so triggered?
Being close to someone is different than ignoring them when they say hello to you.
People are not asking to gossip with NJ lol, just to not pretend like he doesn’t hear them when they greet him.
Honestly seeing a label (ADOR) stand up for their girl group is easing my burn left over from the ways companies treated 2ne1/f(x)/ girls generaion. Hopefully we don't allow money greedy men treat women disposiably in the future.
But what about a woman treating fellow female children this way? Which is worse?
I don't know how it's poor New Jeans when ILLIT and LE SSERAFIM have said not one word.
The parents are sick and twisted too. Burning down the relationship with their kids company and CEO is psychotic.
@@monochromedoutwhat women did what? What r u talking about? LESSERAFIM got hate after coachella 💀 even after HYBE pushed that group taking advantage from produce48, putting on hold NJ debut.. this wasnt NHJ, NJ or lesserafim fault... Is Hybe
, ILLIT came from a rigged show, WHERE TRULY TALENTED TRAINES WERE PUSHED APART BY HYBE. ILLIT girls know VERY WELL they didnt deserve to debut over the others, but happily agreed. If anything, I feel happy for the girls saved from the monster than is HYBE. But sure, go protect that old man picking minors for his little group, they for sure will be safe there
Stoopid parents caused 50 50 downfall. Looks like stoopid parents will also cause NJ downfall.
1234567 Stoopid parents caused 50 50 downfall. Looks like stoopid parents will also cause NJ downfall.
Stoopid parents caused 50 50 downfall. Looks like stoopid parents will also cause NJ downfall.
Remember guys, HYBE is a company and playing dirty, MHJ is just an individual, and will never have that kind of money that HYBE have, the only response that HYBE have is to destroy MHJ but no response on the issues that were out. HYBE is really a bully.
It's pretty clear that hybe isn't clean but mhj isn't that innocent as well.
She got caught red handed planning a coup d'etat, gate keeping a concept that has been there, and most importantly, drag literal children in this mud
MHJ has an entire team behind her and is also rich. She also has been exploiting NJ since the beginning so she’s not getting any sympathy from me. The only outcome that would be good for them is getting out of Hybe AND away from MHJ but there’s basically no chance of that happening.
Imma flip a table if Hybe put NJ on hiatus. Like they’re the only kpop group I liked after BP. I was almost going to give up on kpop until NJ debuted.
PS I’m not an Illit hater but their concept is not for me. I mean it’s cute but feels weird seeing them act and dress up as small kids.
There’s 2 separate singles up for pre order (new jeans) they are both for different songs
about the hiatus thing wouldn't make them more likely to leave hybe though? likee idol contracts go both ways and entertainment companies have to promote their idols. hybe would be opening themselves up to contract lawsuits if they actually fumble newjeans promotions like that.
Tell that to Fromis 9.
This is why in your first video on this, I came out and posted that it's too early to begin attacking mhj. Look where we are now. It's evident new jeans potential is being wasted. I honestly wish people had noticed it earlier. Look at fromis 9 for example. I'm willing to bet money that that Bang guy has never even walked in their general direction. All he cares about is money money money and it's disgusting
Money and Ego.
It's his company of course he has to care about the money because without it New Jeans wouldn't even exist neither would the other groups within the HYBE corperation. Think about it logicially and why would he spend the vast amounts of money on New Jeans just to distroy them it's not logical that's not business. Really come on think, your brains.
@@eileencritchley4630 girl he doesn’t care about nj because he has bts 😭 bts is more popular and makes more money than any other group so of course he doesn’t care if nj is going to be forgotten. Like you said it’s his company but ador was the one who did everything that made nj original and he couldn’t take credit for it. So why would he want money from a group he didn’t make? It frustrates him that he isn’t the one behind the original ideas that made nj popular.
@@blxck_fairy9551 yes the are more popular but he wants to expand the reach of Kpop globally. It's still a very niche market. Why do you think he has expanded to be the biggest Kpop company from tiny company about to go bankrupt in such a small time frame. He's looking for longevity that means raise groups who are going to a longer life span in kpop and a bigger portion of the world music market. So he's not just relaying on BTS who at some point will want to slow down.
@@eileencritchley4630 okay but see how your talking about groups HE personally funded? I just don’t see how he is/ will be able to support the girls during this whole situation if he keeps on allegedly saying stuff without posting one proof or receipt like ador did🤷🏾♀️ he keeps on saying stuff without being able to back it up.
그리고 하이브에서 이슈가 되고 있는 르세라핌,아일릿을 가창 연습이 부족한 상태에서 데뷔시켜 라이브 보컬 이슈가 문제가 되고 있습니다. 하이브가 여자아이돌 데뷔를 얼마나 서둘렀는지 대중들은 눈과 귀로 느끼고 있습니다. KPOP역사상 이런 음치 걸그룹을 동시대에 둘이나 볼 줄은 꿈에도 생각 못했습니다. 실망스럽습니다.
Agreed. People act as if LSF and Illit is being criticised because of the feud only. But it predates that. Their encores and Coachella for LSF showed the lack of skills developed by both groups.
@@BTSISMYHAPPYPLACE4VER What do you even mean
Ikr
Btw.. Bang pd is a music producer
If nj is gonna end up being a part of collateral damage due to mhj, then i can understand the hiatus that's being planned for these girls. Everything that's going on is bad for njs health, aside from the groups reputation. If they're to comeback, maybe after some of the bts menbers have returned? They need to come back with a more positive note from the public.
There’s a big chance the ignoring thing is true because on an old clip you can see one of the bts members talking about bang pd not greeting him or remembering his name for almost more then a year and also only acknowledging them once they started getting famous. I can give the link if someone asks.
yup it was V
reminds me of FNC CEO did that too. It seems like a cultural thing but yeah interesting they used it to weaponize when i heard other CEOS of any entertainment business being just like that lol.
Girl i don't need your link let me inform you,1st of he never said Bang Pd never greeted him he said he was with RM and they greeted Bang Pd and he asked who he was for almost a yr. Now hear me he knew RM cause he trained the longest, they were alot of trainees at that time and i bet he wasn't spending 24hrs with them during training for him to know all there names/it's just common sense it takes others a while to know other people's names. 2nd BTS debuted in 2013,so let's say he didn't know he's name after debut(am sure it was before debut)+1 yr that ment he knew his name in 2014 THEY WERE NOT FAMOUS THEN they had not even won their first award so you saying he knew him after success is complete misinformation and laying.3rd if you watch he's interview with CNN he said it openly that BTS might consider him their mentor,big brother,father figure,producer,CEO or even a friend (meaning he's close with them since he started with them) and he added that He fully support other labels which have their own mentors,producers,CEO e.t.c whom he's close with and not the artists joking that some of them don't even know him or have never met and that was like almost a year ago...and all this thing of Bang Pd or Bighit not liking a certain member of BTS is always on the mouths of solo stans especially the maknae line stans mostly V stans everything is always unfair to them,like now we could have used this V example to prove that PDnim doesn't have any ulterior motives cause he didn't know V's name and he shouted it out infront of everyone including him they laughed it out and now their bond is unbreakable and all this not greeting nwjns is no big deal but no we just have to add more drama in the ongoing series of drama PATHETIC
@@lorineakoth834 I ain’t reading all that💀 and have you not read what I said? I said I will give the link if someone asks me for it. If you don’t want don’t say it💀 easy.
@@lorineakoth834 girl when did I say he only knew about their existence after fame? I said that he ACKNOWLEDGED them more. And why are you talking about RM when I am talking about taehyung (correct me if I wrote his name wrong) ???
I think it is untenable for Min Hee-Jin and NewJeans to remain at Hybe. If MHJ leaves the girls will be at the mercy of the CEO who clearly has a grudge against them and has no creativie vision, just a lust for money and power. ADOR needs to become independent and I believe with the huge populaity of NewJeans they can easily find the investors. Wouldnt it be great if bunnies could buy shares in ADOR? The shareholders and board of Hybe need to fire CEO Bang Se Hyuk before he drives their company into the ground. I also think this petty, greedy and shameful behaviour by a CEO of one of Koreas biggest companies is tarnishing Koreas image worldwide.
Bang Si-Hyuk isn't the CEO anymore. He's the Chairman.
@@AllisonWonderland Ok thanks for clarifying.
Yeah and they'll be in debt in the hundreds of millions of USD so.. good luck! They made this bed and they can lay in it.
who would want to invest in MHJ?😂
@@aeondale011 people in invested in BSH so....?
87%? 95.700
In other words a dedicated hater group not representative of the general public. 95.700 had already decided to bully this group since their debut. Then there are 14.300 defenders of ILLIT who found this poll vote by a coincidence.
89% of 120k is worse than ILLIT and LSF is known for having more haters. But it was already clear majority are Korean SM stans who hate these two groups with a passion. Some fandom are there to piss off other fandoms. That's how the industry works.
Haters helping big time Mhj. Lsf suddenly getting hate soon after their comeback. They are getting hate for the opportunities hybe giving them because their fav's agency doing nothing for their favs
@@bumbee-li6hb In reality this feud is between Hybe and SM. ADOR isolated from Hybe since day one and NewJeans felt more like a SM group than a BigHit/Hybe group. SM stans have been bullying BTS since their early days and now they attack LSF and ILLIT too because they are part of Bang PD.
NewJeans is used as a shield to side with MHJ. So there is now a conflict between Hybe and SM coded ADOR. Who did sent the funeral flowers to Hybe and the trucks with message outside of the Hybe building if not SM stans being behind everything orchestrated by MHJ and Lee Sooman.
ADOR and Hybe acting like babies towards each other by throwing pie. Hybe copy from ADOR's marketing strategy and choreography to avenge on MHJ's allegations towards other Hybe artists Hybe seems to have evidence.
That's basically what is going on inside the building. It's a shitshow which would have never happened if Bang PD didn't hire MHJ in 2019.
The cover of ILLIT's ELLE looks like NewJeans' Attention thumbnail.
I am sorry but it is such a controversy that she hasn't or didn't know that dish??? I feel like this drama is just weird and nit picky, like some people are so weird. Like why hate on a girl for something like that when theres WAY WORSE kpop singers who have done criminal shit. I wouldn't want to be friends with someone offended that a person possibly doesn't know what chicken noodle soup is lol.
Fr be defending their favs from racist or sa allegations but being picky is way over the line???💀
Hybe and MHJ exhibit blatant greed, causing suffering to NJ, Lesserafm, and ILLIT. Justice must prevail through legal channels. While MHJ garners widespread support, Hybe fails miserably in defending its position.
If someone only believes one side, it will not matter what anyone else says. That opinion will remain even if police and/or a court decides based on existing proof against their side.
Both MHJ and BSH are trying to make as much money as they want and are willing to step on anyone for it. They're businesspeople, at the end of the day, it all comes down to money. I don't think either of them is innocent tbh. I do hope that newjeans can continue to go strong, but I think they have way more of a safety cushion than illit.
bro.. i hope all these groups will be okay-- this is fking crazy....
Everyone was hating on Ador 1 week ago, now everyone is supporting Ador. You hypocrites make me sick.
What i dont understand is the in these letters of the parents it says about doing a show in japan in june but there is nothing about it like there's no promotion for the shows or tickets being sold for the shows absolutely zero mention of it all just only about the music coming out which now is probably put on hold. if there doing the show in june usually they have to plan it advance and its may already. Im starting to think these girls are already on there hiatus or because of the problems with hybe and ador is doing everything is stopped and put on hold. hybe will not win at all first of all some of there explanations is not even evidence that they have against ador there just panicking and making crap up.
I don’t think they can be forced into a long hiatus as that will come off as internal sabotage and could be grounds for them to break away from Hybe’s contract.
Ngl this drama has me STRESSED 😩 I love NJ so much and I don’t want this to affect them! It breaks my heart 😔
16:12 + not only they took parts from music choreographys but also *inspired* from commercial Mcdonalds choreography 😂
i just read about that!
Sure V greeted Bang Si Hyuk but Bang didn't know him during their rookie seasons so therefore Bang would not know NewJeans like that to greet them in the elevator but wasn't NewJeans part of source music so he would've known maybe at least Minji or Hanni? Also when he created the survival show for R U Next, and Dream Academy, he knew each and everyone of the girls right or am I wrong... I didn't watch R U next so IDK, but when I watch Dream Academy, I am pretty sure he knew the contestants even though they are subsidiaries. Seventeen is a sub group under Pledis and Bang didn't know them until Seventeen complained to get a meeting schedule. So what now Bang knew Seventeen, Illit and Katseye (and Maybe Fromis_9 IDK) which are sub groups, but apparently he don't know or will not greet NewJeans? He celebrated these sub groups' successes but he won't celebrate Newjeans success? NewJeans greeted him so therefore he is at fault since he greeted and is familiar with Seventeen, Illit and Katseye.
If MHJ leaves, are the fans there for her or are they there for the girls in New Jeans?
11:37 Sakurai Miu (ME:I) was supposed to debut with New Jeans but I don’t know if the timeline lines up
She probably wasn't "young" enough for MHJ and got cut. Remember Yujin was also part of the line up.
I not believe him or her... We still and forever standing and love the real NewJeans and other kpop groups too!!! ✊💪💓
So do you also not believe NewJeans parents?
@@Doby-xc1leyes they clearly are manipulated by min hee jin
@@kirby8stxrgxzer that is so disrespectful to imply that, the parents have been treated badly not even before newjeans debut so them taking a stance and standing up for who stand up for them seems more logical to me
@@mr.n3282 The parents are being manipulated by mhj and so doesn't see how mhj is in the wrong. The logical thing for them to do was request to hybe a change of management for newjeans ever since the cookie situation.
@@kirby8stxrgxzerno you are being manipulated by hybe not the other way around
I don't think that Hybe is dvmb to put NJ in long hiatus.. like come on guys.... NJ IS THE ONLY ARTIST OF ADOR... which Hybe has 80% shares... Where do you think they'll get their profit from if ALL the activities are stoped for MONTHS??
This is just my thoughts.. but i think they'll put them on hiatus just to fix the internal chaos of ADOR...
19:12 about newjeans male version, actualy im realy exited for ADOR first boy group or "the real hype boys"
Girl the heavy filtering is too much. It doesnt make you prettier it just makes it seem like you dislike the way you look. Is also not the most ethical thing to do when you have so many young viewers.
This is a very bad situation, overall. Here are my disorganized, unenlightened thoughts:
Did Hybe respond to the no-greeting accusation? I know this seems like a stupid point, but my impression is that this level of disrepect is damaging to BSH, and by extension Hybe.
MHJ totally wrote that email and had the parents sign it. I get that this is a sneaky snake move. The alleged facts in the email, though, may still stand. I get that MHJ is an egomaniac. But I think a bigger surprise is that people are finding out that BSH is also an egomaniac. There are no angels here. If you subscribe to certain offshoots of Marxism, you could argue that making lots of money and having a high position turns you into a insane person. I mean, it's basic human psychology.
I think this will end badly for almost everyone involved. The only way I can see a way out for NewJeans is if they buy out their own contracts and go rogue with MHJ. This would pretty much set them up as enemies of BSH for life. If they are getting threatened with extended hiatus, however, I don't see much of a choice.