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The sim flyers/racers I play with said the PSVR2 blurs/smears on motion like a cheap LCD screen can you confirm please? They say it fine when everything is still but you move around and it starts smearing...
13:10 "there is nothing", Resident Evil Village, Resident Evil 4 remake, The Dark Pictures: Switchback VR, Firewall Ultra, Gran Turismo 7, Horizon Call of the Mountain, Synapse, Break Stuff VR, Before your Eyes VR, Apollo 13: The Lost Tapes VR would like to have some words with you xD, but still very good video! I like your reviews!
Scrolling down and checking out the comments, I see people really trying to bring in that "console war" mindset. Folks, both headsets are good and excel in their own ways. No need to ridicule others over their choices. We all just want to have fun, don't we?
Definitely the psvr2 for me no need to worry about battery life nor the problems with compression with pcvr the cons like the Mura effect and the wire don’t bother me or disrupt my immersion (beware of salt below)
Same exact sentiment here, though i got used to restricted movement due to my first real introduction to VR being the PSVR1, the cable is w major non-issue for me. (Mura is nothing compared to the PSVR1's screen door effect)
It's definitely so much better than the Quest 3. Oled is king! Mura doesn't bother, cable as well, premium controllers, awesome first year library of big titles from pc and exclusives he forgot to mention, GT 7, Re8 Re4 remake, synapse, Cross fire, etc: PC quality graphics versus standalone crap. I sold my Quest 3 because I simply didn't want to play it cuz my PSVR 2 was always available. Can't even tell how uncomfortable q3 is. Doesn't have earphones, the mic is bad, colors are washed up. The only thing that is very bad about psvr 2 is the fresnel lenses, pankacke lenses for Quest 3 are amazing. But the rest is all in PSVR2 favor. I had both, and i sold q3.
The glare on psvr2 is bad. You look off from the center just a little and color distortion is bad. Once you tried quest 3 lens, you can't go back to psvr2
@@delick01 the number one problem I have with the “quests” is the compression no matter how high I put the resolution it was still noticeable to me it looked extra blurry I ended up selling my quest 2 and getting a psvr2 and it was almost like a next gen upgrade experience if quest makes a headset with a native port I’ll gladly buy one until then it’s a no go for me
There are actually a few PSVR2 exclusives that aren't on other stores. Gran Turisom 7, Resident Evil Village, Resident Evil 4 remake, The Dark Pictures: Switchback VR, Firewall Ultra, Horizon Call of the Mountain, Synapse, Break Stuff VR, Before your Eyes VR, Apollo 13: The Lost Tapes VR. That's not a long list at all but saying there are no exclusives at all is incorrect.
@@DeusVult566have both the psvr2 has AAA exclusives the quest lacks, hybrid games are astonishing and it gets upgraded quest ports check out comparisons of galaxy edge , walking dead , zombieland, max mustard, etc far better on psvr2 and plenty more incoming. Also have the option to play the best flat games. Top level haptics.
@@iwantalot psvr2 has only few high quality exclusives 2-3 and thats it but quest 3 has a HUGE amount of different games like BEST vr games Asgard Wrath1,2 this is best vr game! mixed reality games is great too i play them very often because they are very impressive when you run around the rooms and shoot or fight off zombies in the room, while you are not tied to a wire and move without sticks! it's incredibly cool
I have both but don't own a VR capable PC...yet. I love GT7 and the PSVR2 exclusive games but tend to use my Quest 3 for casual games and multimedia. Much prefer the Pancake lenses and mixed reality of the Quest 3.
Was waiting for this one. Just got my PSVR2 from the sale. Wish there was a pre-order option for the adapter in the U.S. as I plan to use it primarily on PC to replace my now finicky reverb G2 for sim racing.
Let me know how it goes. I've got Valve Index and HP Reverb G2 but I've been thinking about PSVR2. I wonder if you feel it's an upgrade or not in the end.
Very weird that FOV for you is wider on the Quest 3. For me the PSVR2 has wider FOV even when using the Quest 3 without a facial interface. Are you sure you pulled the headset all the way into your eyes? Also when you said MURA is like a black shadow this doesn’t make any sense MURA is when the screen is grainy and you see static pixels when moving your head like film grain and sometimes there can be a green tint associated with this grain as well in specific scenes.
@@voodoodevr-en I appreciate that you post all of your FOV measurements for all headsets together. You get lower values than most people, but it's the deltas that are meaningful. In most cases people are quibbling over only a sliver of additional FOV between two headsets. Most headsets are about the same on FOV with only a few standouts here and there, and your chart accurately reflects that.
the quest 3 audio is honestly better than some cheap headphones. unless you are bass obsessed, the quest 3 sounds pretty good (I say this as someone who uses the beyerdynamic dt 770 with a dedicated DAC)
As someone who only has the PSVR2 and is looking forward to trying SteamVR once the adaptor launches, it's nice to hear the conclusion was something of a toss up between them and not a landslide. I feel fairly confident that I'm going to enjoy myself on PCVR. Nice that all I need is this cheap adaptor to make that happen now. Great videos on it so far. Cant wait to try Hogwarts Legacy with the UEVR mod.
As someone who owns both Quest 3 and PSVR2, I can say all the Quest fanboys in these comments declaring that the comparison is an obvious landslide have clearly never actually tried a PSVR2. Which is better between them really depends on your personal use cases and what aspects you value more than others.
@@SargonDragon I agree, so much that I sent the quest 3 back for refund. Because I have the Pico 4, and it was neck and neck for visuals, and performance, for $150 less. And I actually own 7 headsets. With the psvr2 being one of them.
Regarding the bluetooth connectivity discussed in the video. I've seen feedback from Windows Mixed Reality headset owners on reddit advising that Bluetooth dongles often had connectivity problems when used on a USB 3.0 port. They would instead connect it to a USB 2.0 port or a USB 3.0 port with an extension cable. This worked for them because the USB 3.0 connection itself affects the dongle from functioning as designed. The other alternative was to use a PCI-Expansion card with Bluetooth built in, these connect directly into the motherboard and aren't affected by the USB 3.0 controller. Manufacturer's of Windows Mixed Reality PC VR headset's learned how unreliable Bluetooth dongles could be and instead began integrating Bluetooth into the adapter. The Reverb G2 is praised for implementing something similar.
It helps a lot to bring the front part of the PSVR2 comfortable close to your eyes, if you release the rearbutton once you wear the PSVR2 on your head, while you keep a thumb pushed on that button and the back part of the strap, then moving the front part of the headset slowly towards your forhead and then quickly turn the knob to lock it again. I actually can get this way much easier to the closest position instead of just using maximum pressure (which is usually pretty uncomfortable. That way the strap sits much tighter without too much pressure. Sounds tricky but it is actualy pretty easy to do.
I have both I use my Quest 3 more as i use it for multiple things like fitness apps, music production apps and Mixed Reality games but I only play VR games on my Playstation VR2
The only solution is to get both . I paid $410 USD for the PSVR2 and adapter . I paid $365 for the Meta Q3 . Meta = Mobile Entertainment PSVR2 = Solid Entertainment
If you have a ps5, the psvr2 is a no brainer for pc and ps. The PlayStation exclusives are amazing. Resident Evil 4 Remake, Gran Turismo, Horizon, etc. Can't go wrong with Quest 3 for pc use, though I have been waiting for a new Valve headset for years. The Somnium seems good too.
@@haseebmirza2901 I would just recommend PSVR2 for a person that only have a PS5 and wants to play VR. I think Quest 3 can do so much more than just gaming. But yeah, PS has some good exclusives as well, if it was compatible with PSVR1 titles like Quest can play Quest 2 games, it would have more value IMO. I never owned a VR headset before, Quest 3 is my first headset, what made me want to buy is that he is not only a gaming device, you can do much stuff that Apple Vision is capable.
According to Ivry, neither HDR, haptics, nor eye-tracking are blocked; there simply aren't any games that use them, and Sony hasn't spent time implementing them in the driver. According to Ivry, this could be activated by Sony or even by a developer who wants to use it.
Great comparison! Especially the excellent quality trough the lens footage, I never found images online how the PSVR2 lenses clarity look compared to the Quest3, with all the blur and chromatic aberration, but we finally have that now:)
When I bought my PSVR2 last year I noticed the superior FOV of the PSVR2 right away compared to the Reverb G2, the PSVR2 library is still very young but very large for a new headset and has much better quality games to buy if you also want to play PSVR2 games, games that could never run on a Quest 3 if you intend to use it for stand alone gaming, also other than the uncomfortable Quest 3 headband needing to be replaced the battery life of the standard Quest 3 battery is very poor so you will need the Bobo head strap with an extra battery, and then the price of the Quest 3 is far higher than the PSVR2, I think the OLED displays and the built in Displayport technology make the PSVR2 the superior PCVR headset.
You got your psvr2 last year.. so you spent 1000 usd to make it work. So that made the price of the psvr 2 at least 300usd more than the quest 3 with new strap and battery pack. So how was your psvr 2 cheaper than the quest 3 when you purchased it? Let's also not forget that all the functions that make the psvr 2 better than the quest 3 ard also disabled when connected to pc. So once you take that into consideration the psvr 2 is actually inferior to the quest 3 in regards to pc vr. Not to mention you do have the option of playing the quest 3 by itself and skip the additional 500-1500usd that you have to spend in order to use the psvr 2. It's not that the psvr 2 is bad, it's just that the selling points for the psvr 2 are only there if it's connected to the ps5, it losses to many of its advantages when it's connected to pc which just makes it entry level in my eyes in comparison. Yes the headstrong sucks on quest3
For me bluetooth connection problems controllers with PC are often present. Often they lag or disconnect. Only 2.4Ghz receiver worked flawlessly. I've tried different controllers and different PCs, issues are still present
Quest 3 all day for the pancake lenses and the clarity they bring even if the headset is using LCD panels. Also, in version 28 that is coming to the Quest 3, a lot of the color and black levels will supposedly be addressed to give a better dynamic range of color and black levels. Plus the controllers just feel better on Quest 3 as well. Q3 FTW
Has better exclusive games also, PSVR2 has any exclusive game announced And to be honest I love the Standalone fact, Quest is like a Switch/SteamDeck for itself I visited a friend a couple weeks ago and wanted to show him RE4 VR, I was carrying only the headset in my bag
Yes for me just controllers is more than enough to choose quest 3 because quest 3 have controllers with nice pressable buttons for squeezing the hand and on psvr2 there are just buttons for that.
Honestly I would take RE 4 Remake, RE Village, Horizon Call of the Mountain, and GT7 over the whole Meta store lol. Just my opinion, but I look through the Meta store on my Quest 3 and there's only a couple games I would play (Assassin's Creed Nexus and Asgard's Wrath 2) since I've been spoiled by much better games on other platforms. You didn't mention that PSVR2 has those exclusives. So you either forgot, didn't know, or ignored that fact. Also LCD should be listed as a CON, and so should battery life. Because even plugged in, the Quest 3 uses the battery and can't continue playing when the battery dies.
The color chart showing how much better the colors are in psvr2 is significant. It would be a no-brainer choice for me; however, no integrated audio solution is simply PURE EVIL.
That would be true if not for the terribly small sweet spot. You need to get used to moving your head instead of your eyes but even then, a really good head strap is required because you can easily loose the sweet spot. Fresnel is just terrible.
I guess the bluetooth problem is about USB3.0. Bluetooth works with 2.4GHz signal band which will be interfered easily while USB3.0 device is working around,
Thanks, Thomas, for the comparison between the Playstation VR 2 and the Meta Quest 3. I have the Playstation VR 1 and the Quest 3. I realize you are not comparing the Playstation VR 1, but i really liked it until the Quest 1 came out, and it was hard to argue with wireless and no cables. Now I can't say how much better the Playstation VR 2 is than the 1, but the Quest 3 is way better than the Quest 1. Having said that for myself, I like the mixed-reality games, bigger sweet spot, and color pass-through that the Quest 3 gives me. I have an Elite Strap with Battery, and in case another around the neck backup battery plus the main Quest 3 battery and I could play for probably 6 hours or so. I haven't used more than the main battery and Elite Strap with Battery because using the headset for 4 hours is probably more than I should do without a break, so at least that stops me from being in VR way too much. What can I say? Once I get on my VR headset, I don't want to stop.
What about using the PSVR 2 with the Index controllers?:) I still have the OG Vive + Index controllers, and I am considering getting the PSVR2, would be cool if that combo worked somehow.
Also I see all the Pimax headsets on your shelf, which model is your favorite overall? Which would you recommend for value and FOV? By the way your English is very good for someone who lives in Germany.
@@bonanzabrandon6877the only way I could see anything supporting that argument is if psvr games were ported to pc had features that only the psvr2 could use. ie, adaptive triggers. But that's stretching it.
Thanks for then insights and side-by-side comparison! I hope Sony addresses the Bluetooth issues fairly quickly. I'll be testing out my PCI-E Bluetooth adapter from TP-Link and will figure out how well it works soon enough. (I don't have the Sony recommended Bluetooth dongle.)
Integrated sound is convenient, but it's not as good as having actual headphones on, or IEMs/earbuds. It's nice to have the option, but it's also nice to not be stuck with the extra weight if you're not going to use it/to have options. If attaching better options is so terrible because of the wires... then get shorter wires, or strap them down with cable ties/Velcro. You're already dealing with a wired headset.
I have both and the only thing PSVR2 has over the Quest 3 is the Oled screens. What I hate about it the most is how hard it is to be in the sweet spot and how much I constantly have to tweak the headset's position. Zero problem with the Quest since the sweet spot is so wide. Also, Mura. You don't notice it as much while playing but it's definitely there and whenever there's a spectacular scene I always wish that I'm not looking at it through a mesh. Lens glare is ok for the most part, the smear don't get that annoying for me but definitely prefer the Quest's clearness. The color on the OLED screens are very nice, as someone who owns an OLED TV and an OLED ultrawide monitor, I was disappointed when I first put on my Quest 3. This is also the reason why I bought the PSVR2, I wanted to see the difference OLED would make in VR. The truth is, it is a big difference. But ultimately, the Mura and more importantly the extremely small sweet spot are too much of a tradeoff. Wearing PSVR2 reminds me of the first generation HMDs, you could forget all about it's short comings when you're immersed in the world but they're always there and eventually, unconsciously, you'll want to wear it less and less. Quest 3, however, is so hassle free with the standalone capability and how clear the images always are, I keep wanting to put it on. It allows you to focus on the experience and that is the difference maker.
I wanted to do 3D Blurays (even though they're not making them anymore) somewhat recently, so I bought a DLP projector, and have converted my living room into a full on theater, and our TV is just on the floor for the kids or whatever. Got some cheap-ish glasses on Aliexpress, already had a good 5.1 setup, grabbed a cheap screen (needed it because my walls are textured, and this projector is a UST). It's great, being able to let everybody watch 3D together (it's really just me and my kid for the most part), and at the distance our couch has to be from our TV area, the increase FOV is great for split-screen gaming (even though we have to settle for 1080p, it's still better than extra tiny pixels, super far away).
@@ReclaimerTyphoon That sounds like an excellent setup! I think 3D TV would still be a thing *(and it SHOULD!)* if the marketing types hadn't tried to sell it as "The NEW way to watch TV!" instead of "An additional capability you can use to watch certain things now and then if you want." People were afraid they would have to wear "the silly glasses" to watch TV all the time. For whatever reason I'll never understand some people just don't like 3D movies or 3D anything (sometimes I wonder if they realize they see in 3D all day long...) but I absolutely LOVE it! It doesn't give me a headache. It doesn't make me sick. It doesn't make me dizzy. It doesn't give me eyestrain and I'm not too "cool" to be seen wearing 3D glasses in my living room. Adding 3D capability to TVs didn't really cost anything if the glasses were optional so it's just dumb that it went away. Back in the day I overheard some dolt in a store telling the TV kid "I don't want none of them 3D ones." Like you can't just leave it turned off!? Whatever...
I like both. OLED for better blacks, exclusives, and more graphical games. Quest 3 for everything else that I can't get on PSVR2. And fun mixed reality games like Miracle Pool and Astra. I happen to have both. Playing games like mini golf on the PSVR2 I was constantly feeling the wire as I was trying to put. So wireless is a big deal.
Strange how your fov is smaller in psvr2 when most people say the opposite. I assume ipd plays an impact for if psvr2 for is wider or smaller? Mrtv just did a video testing both headsets fov for himself
Yes I know Sebastian has completely different FOV values, but as I said it's absolutely individual, that's why I ALWAYS tell that in my videos again and again and again.
@@ShapeshifteR-TheAnomalyGameCat I think re2 vr and re3 vr in even better in my opinion because in re2vr and re3vr the whole body is visible and this adds realism
This is why they're gonna keep it close to their chest and will make it only a PS5 exclusive. We will probably never see a PC port of it. Luckily I got a PS5 as well.
2, there's planning exclusive on the PlayStation. V VR 2. Resident Evil 8. Grand turismo 7. Switch back. Resident Evil 4 horizon, call of the mountain. Now, it might not have as much as the quest. There are at least two hundred games on that system.
Great comparison. I have a Quest 3 with the Bobo S3 headstrap and love it. It The $350 PSVR 2 discount here in the US had me strongly considering one for PCVR but I held off and glad I did. I'm still curious to see how the general VR community receives it when more people have the adapter and if the other features are eventually unlocked. If it improves in time, and drops to like $300, I may reconsider.
@@bumpsy2358 That's fine. I don't think it has many benefits over just using my Quest 3 for PCVR anyway. I still have my Quest 2 as well so I'll just wait for something that's a big upgrade over the Quest 3 in the next year or so.
You should definitely try a Bluetooth 5.1 adapter. This is what ps5 has. Also the tracking is handled by in out tracking. A day one update might be of great help.
I've used both headsets. They both have their advantages. Even without nice PS5 functions PSVR2 can be better in some cases than Quest 3. Especially that natively wired headset better works and looks with PC. Many points are very subjective. Some of my friends have problems finding lenses sweet spot position, and that's why they prefer Quest 3. For me black levels and good colors are very important. For me often wireless compression algorythms creates heavier overload and screw up the image. As of glare, I really prefer PSVR2 glare, especially on black background. Q3 has some kind of smudge effect, general glow for whole lense in that case, or false image - it feels strange for me. PSVR 2 godrays feels kinda immersive. Anyway, Q3 is simpler to use and understand, in general use it's better. In the end I love both headsets, they both awesome in their own sense.
I'm still on the cv1, was hoping to love the quest 3 and upgrade but I tried it from a friend of mine and didn't like it, yeah everything was clear but didn't like the colors and comfort, also i dont care for mixed reality, incredibly i still liked more my cv1 , even with the rays, of course I can't read damn thing. Maybe Psvr2 is a good option because of oled and i l also own a ps5. Is there a notable difference because of the resolution?
@@rodiape Resolution is roughly the same on both devices. There are a few small caveats about resolution though: Quest 3 has it's panel turned roughly 30 degrees, meaning that pixel lines are not horizontal vertical grid. It makes borders of small UI a little rough (if aliasing is disabled). Another thing is that my RTX 3070 can't hold good fps at full resolution in many games when transmitted wirelessly. And compression blurs the image slightly, especially in far distances. However good lenses give more clarity and comfort indeed. PSVR 2 has the same or even worse resolution on paper, but in the end, connected to PC it feels a little sharper. Difference is kinda small. PSVR 2 has Mura effect, which gives a little noise on top of an image. Some people can't take it, most are okay with it. I kinda like it, it creates cozy feeling like retro device for me. And image is blurry on the edges, you'll need to adjust to sweet spot like every 5 minutes. Deeper colors, darker darks and brighter brights are notable in PSVR 2. I too in love of OLED displays for games, and gives here an edge for PSVR 2. Like when you walk in the cave, and you see bright exit out of the darkness, it feels so real, just because it's surrounded by black void, and black void totally blends with display borders, creating seamless feeling. Also the bright colorful explosions are such a thrill to see, especially with the haptic feedback PS5 provides. PSVR 2 is so bright friends had tears when there was a brief bright image on display. Never the case with Quest 3. For me the image is more stunning in PSVR 2, but Quest 3 is easier to use and more comfortable (albeit with 3rd party headstrap). If you okay with a smaller sweet spot and the wire, I think you will enjoy PSVR 2 more. Especially if you have both PS5 and PC
I'm a bit curious about two particular optics-related questions. 1. The Quest 3 sometimes has trouble focusing on objects that are supposed to be close to your eyes, and I found myself seeing the edge of the lens hole between my eyes more frequently than with previous headsets like the G2. Is this better on the PSVR2? 2. Old OLED headsets like the Quest 1 have the pentile display issue where the effective pixel density is lower than comparable LCD panels. Is this an issue in PSVR2?
@@voodoodevr-en Thanks for the reply! I guess (1) is not that easy to spot if you play long sessions and spend of the time accustomed to the headset. It is more apparent for me in the first few minutes I put on my headset. With the Q3, if I try to look cross-eyed (e.g. putting your virtual finger between your eyes), I can see the black inside borders of the screen. This is something I never noticed when using the G2 in comparison. Minor annoyance, but not game stopper.
The only con you listed for Quest 3 is "standard strap". IMO its biggest con is that it doesn't directly connect to PC, but instead has to process video as if it was streaming, and you get compression/artifacts and lose quality/resolution.
@@ZFCaio The Link cable is a USB file stream, not DisplayPort, and it's just as compressed as a wireless solution. I love using Steam Link, but every time I come back to a real DisplayPort tether the difference is huge
biggest con with quest 3 is that for the price of entry by the time you get a headstrap battery extension combo and the unit n stand its like over $800 before u buy a game or any new game. battery life sucks majorly as well hence the the need for a extended battery pack. i returned my quest 3 as i didnt feel the upgrade from quest 2 was worth it. But with the ps vr 2 n the sale they just had for 200 off i was able to snag it for $466 which was also buying a game and charging dock for the controllers.
@@julianmazzola Thanks for explaining me, my router is weak, that's why I picked a third party Link Cable, it was cheaper than a stronger router, for me personally looks fine.
I've seen videos from other people who got the PC adapter early and they were having no issues with the controllers, so there might be something messing with your connection near your computer
Thanks for the video. I have been using the Quest 3 for quite a while, long before PSVR came out with their adapter to use on a PC. The Quest 3 meets all my requirements and operates very well on all my SIM racing and Action Shooter VR games. No need to spend more money and try the PSVR headset. I am interested in seeing what the Quest 4 has to offer whenever any future specifications should come out on it. Also what pricings would be. I know this product is not due out for quite a while, and should it ever become a Quest product. Take care.
@@ZFCaio With self-contained tracking, 90/120Hz OLED panels, and decent controllers, for $350/$410 w/PC adapter? And compatible with a console VR solution that gives you high-resolution haptics, Adaptive Triggers, eye-tracking features, and in-headset haptics? Nah.
@@ReclaimerTyphoon This crap doesn't serve for nothing without being connected on PS5 or PC, doesn't have pancake lenses, the resolution per eye is lower, and will not play Batman Arkham Shadow. Most features you mentioned are not on PC as well. There is no reason to own a PS5, Sony is porting everything to PC, I have myself more than 10 Playstation games on my Steam which I can play with superior quality on my Gaming Laptop or handheld on my SteamDeck Who cares for Gran Turismo when you have Assetto Corsa?
@@ZFCaio Sony has ported a *handful* of things to PC - hardly "everything". Also, there are a LOT of reasons people would want a console over a PC (and a lot more reasons why someone would want a console & wired headset over a stand-alone VR device). If you can't see that, you lack awareness. I welcome you to seek understanding. Ultimately, console is just a different path, and its value to your life depends on who you are, and what you find valuable/to what extent. One (of many) reason to want Gran Turismo: It's a different game. You mean to tell me you've never played, or don't own other racing games? You picked one racing game when you came out of the womb, and have never deviated, tried other things, or enjoyed other racing games? I don't envy you and your obsession with living a black-and-white life like that. Yeah, Quest has some exclusive games. I just bought Dungeons of Eternity, because it's awesome, it works great with the haptic vest I bought, and I actually beta tested the game a while back, and have loved it since. But if you don't care about those exclusive games, and there are other reasons why you want a PS5, then... getting a PS5 and PSVR2 makes a lot of sense. Also, Quest 3 BARELY has more resolution than PSVR2. And, like I said, PSVR2 has OLED. Also, also, if you're doing PCVR, Quest 2/3 has video compression artifacts. I specifically bought a wired PCVR headset to avoid that garbage. It's a Pimax 5KSuper. It puts everything else to shame, just with it's wide FOV.
I want to point out 2 things for you. The Bovo Headphones are not bad and off ear for the PSVR 2 also I believe I get more frames per second with a direct to HDMI connection with Microsoft flight sim it's a make-or-break difference (4080). I Hope to get my adapter by the end of the week, will let you know what I think.
Are you saying you connect psvr2 to hdmi? I'm stuck with a gaming laptop with no display port and have been asking if hdmi to display port adaptor will work.. nobody knows.
Hi brother... The problem you have with Bluetooth dongle is not related to the controllers... What it is is a windows power saving update that they rolled some time ago it discounts the Bluetooth dongle that's why extension cable works most of the times...
Depends on you . Psvr2 will look better as it has no compression and oled pannels . Quest is wireless (if that bothers you) also the quest 3 lenses are pancake which are very easy to put on and play straight away without needing to adjust the headset to find sweet spot (some people struggle but most can find sweet spot in seconds. I would say go watch some psvr2 pc adapter reviews as most people make comparisons to quest 3 and other headsets.
@@ReM_KuN OK meta fan boy, stop gaslighting both have positives and negatives and compression is definitely noticeable . Both headsets are good it's just trade offs for each
I just bought the pc adapter for psvr 2 today and tried it on my pc. All these while i've been playing PCVR using my Quest 3 with steam link (no dedicated wifi router). In my opinion no matter what Quest 3 still wins, even though with my setup once in awhile i can see some compression artefacts particularly on dark areas with my Quest 3, on PSVR 2 even though you don't get the compression artefact but it's instead replaced with the mura effect which more or less have the same distracting effect or sometimes even worse. So for now i'll stick with quest 3 until (hopefully) they come out with updates for PSVR2 that adds eye tracking & HDR.
What do you mean by compression artefacts? I returned a Quest 3 because on dark backgrounds I saw a green pattern like a net in one particular place on the left lens. Is that the compression artefact or is it something else?
@@zuljaras no the one you described sounds like defects. compression artefact looks like muddy texture, like what you'll see when you blow up compressed low resolution JPEG to larger resolution
Thanks for the comparison. Could you make a comparison between Pimax Crystal light and psvr2, i would like to know which looks better, Is the oled or the higher resolution more important?
I've had trouble with Bluetooth adapters, turns out an external USB SSD what affecting it. So I moved it away to another USB slot away from the drive and it was ok. Might be related to your problem.
It's often related to the USB controllers on the motherboard in the PC. We have ports out the wazoo nowadays, but usually only one or two controllers that all that data feeds through, which bottlenecks the ports. Especially on a streamer's VR PC, they'd have most ports used up. So if it's a big problem, a dedicated USB add in card can help relieve the bottleneck by giving it a new dedicated controller just for the problem devices.
That or drivers. The reason for what you stated is because there are only so many lanes on the pci express bus. And the way lanes are allocated for usb.
For the quest 3, if you are using steam link, the best way to connect to the PC is to make a hotspot from your PC to the quest. The connection was a lot more stable for me at least. I have to use the shared ISP provided router so bypassing that is helpful.
Weird, when I use my Quest 3 the FOV still feels like goggles, while the PSVR2 FOV feels huge, with vertical fov almost as far as I can look. Get a pcie Bluetooth adapter for your pc, they have antennas and won’t cause issues like these tiny usb adapters.
i think its because of the weight. how the headset being a front oriented weight pulls it down, even when its tightly fastened, so that you notice the pull, and your brain goes "hey, its not on our face, so its not real" while the psvr2 is way more balanced and lighter.
It’s too bad this only came out else I would’ve given a second thought about the Quest 3 I bought last year. But having said that being untethered (with a battery pack) and being able to play PCVR wirelessly in a larger room separate from my PC is refreshing.
I would probably say the PSVR 2 is "better" for sim racing use case in that it is much lighter and does not put pressure on your face (comfortable to use for long racing periods). Also feel like the vertical field of view is better on the PSVR 2. Lastly, the PSVR 2 is not "encoding" the video that is coming from the PC so the image will not be susceptible to compression artifacts that can occur on the Quest 3 (which either gets H264, HEVC, or AV1 video depending on your graphics card); this can result in a muddy image especially during sim racing (though if you have a 30 or 40 series GPU this is not an issue (as they can encode HEVC and AV1).
Respectively, your comparison on the optics seems a bit lazy. Yes, OLED offers vibrant colors, superior contrast, and deeper blacks, but the Quest 3 still delivers decent color and contrast without any Mura effect. Having tested both today ( had the pcvr2 pcvr adapter early too) the Quest 3 has SIGNIFICANTLY clearer optics and a noticeably better sweet spot (PSVR 2 has 18 PPD, while the Quest 3 has 26 PPD). Additionally, the PSVR 2 suffers from noticeable glare and chromatic aberration. When it comes to movies, the Quest 3 stands out as a portable movie player with many more options. The clarity is substantially better, and 8K UA-cam videos look stunning on the Quest 3.
Watch the video again, I talked about Sweet Spot (better in Quest 3) and also Glare, I even inserted a comparison picture. And please don't tell me I'm lazy... I really hate to hear that as I work 16h a day (2 full time jobs) to make free videos for you guys ;)
Those tiny USB Bluetooth adapters have absolutely minuscule antennas so that may be the issue. I have a long-range USB Bluetooth adapter that gives me Bluetooth connectivity pretty much anywhere in my house, it's basically just a 5.0 dongle with an adjustable antenna sticking out of it. The internal PS5 Bluetooth antenna is fairly large so that may be the ticket to fixing your Bluetooth issues.
Psvr2 doesn't have exclusives??? Horizon, gt7, 2 resident evils, synapse, Switchback. Plus exclusive versions of star wars, song in the smoke and hitman coming up. Best versions of many games, no man's sky etc. Been very happy with it so far.
Quest 3 for me Better resolution Mixed Reality is awesome (not only for MR games, but for other usages, such as watching videos in a big screen while washing the dishes or working out) Works Standalone, I don't need to be always connected to my Gaming Laptop (wired cables in 2024? give me a break!) Better exclusives, yeah RE Village and Horizon look really nice, but I prefer Assassin's Creed Nexus VR and Asgard's Wrath tbh, and I think at some point will release Horizon VR on Steam, we already have the two flat screen games For me Quest 3 is the combination of PSVR2 with Apple Vision Pro in one $500 product I am using Quest daily to learn your native language, the German language, which is language I want to learn since I am a German descendant And I even tried a Taekwondo App Also some games have Crossplay with PC which is awesome
Thank you for this video ❤❤ My name is Tomaz, mine is TO not TH 😅 So they are 120hz, did you tested any game using Lossless scaling program? I wonder how good it can do for VR gameplay? I use x3 so i can play many pc tittles on 180fps with rx 6750xt and its a monster but i dont have Vr anymorr so i cant test
Both. Quest 3 for rec room the rise of jumbotron session and psvr2 for cyberpunk 2077 VR mod, though the quest 3 with cable is doing very well with cyberpunk VR mod on 3080 card. Cam run at high graphics with max resolution on steam link. Psvr2 though for better FOV and hopefully ray tracing. Also no hot battery with wifi beaming directly to your face. Still, the real answer is having love for both headsets. Edit- i picked up the psvr2 at the discount price. Absolute steal.
I've always had issues with Bluetooth on my PCs so I spent a lot of time getting it working properly. Simply use a Bluetooth adapter with an antenna, or an integrated Bluetooth card with an external antenna. My Bluetooth keyboard used to disconnect from 7 feet away, now I can use it anywhere in the house and even outside. My PS5 controller used to disconnect if more than one was connected but no longer do so with an antenna. I've tried cheap antenna adapters and expensive ones. The main thing is the antenna. Regarding the video once I can purchase the PSVR2 PC adapter I'll be testing it out.
I think you undersell the pancake lenses in this. For me the difference between pancake lenses and fresnel lenses is transformational. Even without the colour passthrough, faster wifi, av1 encoding and XR2 gen 2 performance advantages, I'd have paid for the Quest 3 over (even significantly cheaper) last gen headsets with fresnel lenses like the Quest 2, PSVR2 or HP Reverb G2 for the lenses alone. For me the biggest drawback of the Quest 3 is the reduction in binocular overlap. Especially as you really notice it with pancake lenses compared to fresnel lens headsets, because you can actually move your eyes instead of your head to look around, and your peripheral vision isn't a blurry mess. I also find reading normal sized text through fresnel lenses headache inducing, and for that reason I never used them for web browsing or other general computing. Even watching videos, it's the difference between being able to lie back and look with my eyes in the Quest 3, versus struggling to get the sweet spot every time I put the headset on and then having to move my whole head instead of my eyes to look at everything. I still enjoyed (became hooked on) VR with fresnel lenses, but I use VR much more with the Quest 3 and only return to the fresnel lenses for multiplayer when I've put someone else in the better headset.
The problem with pancake lenses is that they make everything look a bit more dim. He didn't mention it, but the PSVR2 display is brighter. He also definitely should have put binocular overlap in the CON section of the Quest 3.
I don't find brightness an issue with the Quest 3 at all, I turn it down to get better contrast and blacks. The Quest 3 has also done much better with motion clarity (even when the PSVR2 isn't limited by reprojection), which I think is just a matter of implementation and an advantage of LCDs. The clarity of pancake lenses though is just a massive difference. It changes what content I find usable in the headset, how much time I use it, comfort, reduces setup friction etc etc. I think the fresnel lenses were a step back with the PSVR2 honestly. I'm not even convinced the increased resolution of the PSVR2 made up for the use of fresnel lenses and OLED with a pentile subpixel array instead of the PSVR1's aspheric lenses and RGB stripe OLED. The controllers, inside out tracking and eye tracking (when used well for dynamic foveated rendering, such as with NMS) are what I consider the major improvements from PSVR1 to PSVR2 (along with the extra grunt of the PS5).
I'm not coping, I have both! I will continue to use PSVR2 for the DisplayPort tether. Steam Link is amazing but there is still a considerable difference in visuals, especially in high-contrast scenes.
Wireless is nice but the latency that comes from streaming is a bigger issue than the compression. Quest 3 has about 40ms of latency which is about double of what you get from wired PCVR headsets also running at 120hz. Will you notice 20ms of additional latency? Probably. The difference in latency between 30 fps and 60 fps is only 16ms and many people can feel a difference.
@@poorsvids4738 Its completely different things to compare, frame rate fluidity vs input delay. Human reaction time to visual input ie. green lights at the start of the race are in 200 ms for elite F1 drivers and possibly 250-300ms for average human. 20ms delay is basically unnoticeable. Frame rate is a different story, for sim racing anything below 90 fps is quite noticeable for average person. I was thinking that display port uncompressed connection is superior to wireless compressed but in reality 20ms of additional delay is too small to notice.
@@arkadijko I don't think that's quite right. Vsync doesn't add much latency either, buffering 2 or 3 frames which is 17ms or 25ms at 120hz, yet many will notice it and wouldn't recommend using it for competitive games. Many also notice input lag using DLSS3 Frame Generation. It will make the frame rate higher and it will look smoother but the input delay won't improve beyond the actual game frame rate and people notice.
As a quest 3 user I would like to welcome psvr2 users on board steamvr, have fun. ps. You have the opportunity to play Half Life 2 (+episodes) in vr as a foretaste before Alyx.
@@Wobbothe3rd There is no reason to own a PS5, Sony is just porting everything to PC, I prefer to just wait the games to come, I have a big backlog, so no need to hurry up
Display port question: with the Quest 3 there is always a performance, clarity etc difference depending on if you choose steam vr vs oculus vr vs virtual desktop. With a wired display port headset do you eliminate all those variables?
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This Bluetooth problems are being caused by a incompatibility between the versions of the Bluetooth. I think Dualsenses uses BT 5.1 or 5.2, dont remember right now so if you use a 5.0 receptor, it will give you problems. Ive had many problems here with more than one DS controllers connected to my old computer. My new computer now have the last BT version on the mother board and now the problems are gone. But, even so, if I try to connect more than two DS controlers on it, it will keep disconecting one of then. A random one. It is a PAIN and I think it is a Windows problem with their native BT drivers because ive solved this problem by instaling a program called DSX, that are being sold cheap on Steam and do miracles! Thats why I think it is a M$ driver´s problem to favor the use of their controlers over the Sony ones. Thats it guys. Lets hope Sony fix this issue with M$ and Windows can finally accept a Sony controler without problems. Natively.
You can, but it's not the same. Link is still a compressed video stream with similar visual fidelity to wireless. It looks great, but a native DisplayPort is still noticeably better, especially in high contrast scenes.
@@julianmazzola You are telling BS now "video stream with similar visual fidelity to wireless" I have a third party Link Cable myself, it looks crispy clear with the Link Cable, I am starting to think you are a PSVR2 fanboy trying to glorify the wired headset
@@ZFCaio It looks crispy clear with the wireless too! I don't know how many times I have to say that I have both headsets, and it's personal preference. It is however most definitely BS to say that Link cable is just as good as a native DisplayPort tether, it definitely is not.
@@julianmazzola I doubt the difference is big, this sounds like Digital Foundry Elitism, but need to try myself. My Quest don't look good on the wireless cuz my router is weak.
by any chance do you know if the existing VirtualLink adapter (which basically looks identical to the sony adapter) will work? would be great if you could try it for us :D
there's a ton of variables that can affect bt connections. I'm guessing part of why having the dongle plugged directly into his pc had worse connectivity than over an extension cable is due to the emf the pc generates. Especially usb 3.0 ports running at the same frequency as the bt dongle's wireless frequency. You move the dongle away, you get a clearer signal. It's because of that reason why I connected my wireless adapters over extension cables instead of direct into the pc. Except for my bt adapter which is built into my wifi card. It still needs a usb header for the Bluetooth, but I get great connectivity with it with it's antenna.
@@tekgeekster yeah. I still plan on getting this and trying it. I hope my controllers work well, as I plan on using this as my primary PCVR headset, but we will see. I have the Quest 3 as well, so I am just going to see which one I prefer.
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Just a heads up, the strap you advertise for the Quest 3 in the video is the *S3 Pro* and not the M3 Pro.
The sim flyers/racers I play with said the PSVR2 blurs/smears on motion like a cheap LCD screen can you confirm please? They say it fine when everything is still but you move around and it starts smearing...
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@@ZFCaiofor now…..but PSVR2 still has way better games..sorry
Scrolling down and checking out the comments, I see people really trying to bring in that "console war" mindset. Folks, both headsets are good and excel in their own ways. No need to ridicule others over their choices. We all just want to have fun, don't we?
Definitely the psvr2 for me no need to worry about battery life nor the problems with compression with pcvr the cons like the Mura effect and the wire don’t bother me or disrupt my immersion (beware of salt below)
Same exact sentiment here, though i got used to restricted movement due to my first real introduction to VR being the PSVR1, the cable is w major non-issue for me. (Mura is nothing compared to the PSVR1's screen door effect)
It's definitely so much better than the Quest 3. Oled is king! Mura doesn't bother, cable as well, premium controllers, awesome first year library of big titles from pc and exclusives he forgot to mention, GT 7, Re8 Re4 remake, synapse, Cross fire, etc: PC quality graphics versus standalone crap. I sold my Quest 3 because I simply didn't want to play it cuz my PSVR 2 was always available. Can't even tell how uncomfortable q3 is. Doesn't have earphones, the mic is bad, colors are washed up. The only thing that is very bad about psvr 2 is the fresnel lenses, pankacke lenses for Quest 3 are amazing. But the rest is all in PSVR2 favor. I had both, and i sold q3.
The glare on psvr2 is bad. You look off from the center just a little and color distortion is bad. Once you tried quest 3 lens, you can't go back to psvr2
@@delick01 I have both, but I prefer the color and brightness of the PSVR2 OLED. For the same game, I prefer the PSVR2 version
@@delick01 the number one problem I have with the “quests” is the compression no matter how high I put the resolution it was still noticeable to me it looked extra blurry I ended up selling my quest 2 and getting a psvr2 and it was almost like a next gen upgrade experience if quest makes a headset with a native port I’ll gladly buy one until then it’s a no go for me
There are actually a few PSVR2 exclusives that aren't on other stores. Gran Turisom 7, Resident Evil Village, Resident Evil 4 remake, The Dark Pictures: Switchback VR, Firewall Ultra, Horizon Call of the Mountain, Synapse, Break Stuff VR, Before your Eyes VR, Apollo 13: The Lost Tapes VR. That's not a long list at all but saying there are no exclusives at all is incorrect.
Cmon in quest3 store is hundreds great and just interesting games :) you dont understand how many.
Not nearly half that quality.@@DeusVult566
@@DeusVult566have both the psvr2 has AAA exclusives the quest lacks, hybrid games are astonishing and it gets upgraded quest ports check out comparisons of galaxy edge , walking dead , zombieland, max mustard, etc far better on psvr2 and plenty more incoming. Also have the option to play the best flat games. Top level haptics.
@@iwantalot psvr2 has only few high quality exclusives 2-3 and thats it but quest 3 has a HUGE amount of different games like BEST vr games Asgard Wrath1,2 this is best vr game! mixed reality games is great too i play them very often because they are very impressive when you run around the rooms and shoot or fight off zombies in the room, while you are not tied to a wire and move without sticks! it's incredibly cool
@@TheVRResistance Tell this to Asgard Wrath best vr game of all time.:)
I have both but don't own a VR capable PC...yet. I love GT7 and the PSVR2 exclusive games but tend to use my Quest 3 for casual games and multimedia. Much prefer the Pancake lenses and mixed reality of the Quest 3.
I have a Quest 3 and bought a PSVR2 for seated PC games. The adapter from Sony will arrive in 2 days!
Was waiting for this one. Just got my PSVR2 from the sale. Wish there was a pre-order option for the adapter in the U.S. as I plan to use it primarily on PC to replace my now finicky reverb G2 for sim racing.
Let me know how it goes. I've got Valve Index and HP Reverb G2 but I've been thinking about PSVR2. I wonder if you feel it's an upgrade or not in the end.
@@volv I will let you know as soon as I can get my hands on the adapter haha. No preorder or anything I see.
Very weird that FOV for you is wider on the Quest 3. For me the PSVR2 has wider FOV even when using the Quest 3 without a facial interface. Are you sure you pulled the headset all the way into your eyes?
Also when you said MURA is like a black shadow this doesn’t make any sense MURA is when the screen is grainy and you see static pixels when moving your head like film grain and sometimes there can be a green tint associated with this grain as well in specific scenes.
Yes. Psvr2 fov much better quest 3
I know guys, it's very very individual, that's why I always say it's MY values and you will have completely different values.
@@voodoodevr-en I appreciate that you post all of your FOV measurements for all headsets together. You get lower values than most people, but it's the deltas that are meaningful. In most cases people are quibbling over only a sliver of additional FOV between two headsets. Most headsets are about the same on FOV with only a few standouts here and there, and your chart accurately reflects that.
@@voodoodevr-en Yeah I know just saying lol
I would say Quest 3 sound is actually really good. I have an "audiophile" setup for my pc and was blown away by the sound of the quest 3.
the quest 3 audio is honestly better than some cheap headphones. unless you are bass obsessed, the quest 3 sounds pretty good (I say this as someone who uses the beyerdynamic dt 770 with a dedicated DAC)
For me the Quest 3 sound is also absolutely enkigh6
its way better than most headsets, but sony... literally makes headphones and stereo.
Thanks so much for this! Is the tracking with the TP-Link adapter good enough for Beat Saber in your opinion? If so, I'm buying a PSVR right now 😎
Hmm, I have to try it for a longer time, I'm still not 100% sure with the bluetooth stuff
The video I was waiting for! I think I'll get a psvr2 once it gets on a mega sale like xmass or something. I want displayport connection and OLED
For me as a Simracer, PSVR2 is the way to go because there’s no streaming lag of the quest3 and I also have a ps5
As someone who only has the PSVR2 and is looking forward to trying SteamVR once the adaptor launches, it's nice to hear the conclusion was something of a toss up between them and not a landslide. I feel fairly confident that I'm going to enjoy myself on PCVR. Nice that all I need is this cheap adaptor to make that happen now. Great videos on it so far. Cant wait to try Hogwarts Legacy with the UEVR mod.
As someone who owns both Quest 3 and PSVR2, I can say all the Quest fanboys in these comments declaring that the comparison is an obvious landslide have clearly never actually tried a PSVR2. Which is better between them really depends on your personal use cases and what aspects you value more than others.
@@SargonDragon I agree, so much that I sent the quest 3 back for refund. Because I have the Pico 4, and it was neck and neck for visuals, and performance, for $150 less. And I actually own 7 headsets. With the psvr2 being one of them.
Regarding the bluetooth connectivity discussed in the video. I've seen feedback from Windows Mixed Reality headset owners on reddit advising that Bluetooth dongles often had connectivity problems when used on a USB 3.0 port. They would instead connect it to a USB 2.0 port or a USB 3.0 port with an extension cable. This worked for them because the USB 3.0 connection itself affects the dongle from functioning as designed. The other alternative was to use a PCI-Expansion card with Bluetooth built in, these connect directly into the motherboard and aren't affected by the USB 3.0 controller. Manufacturer's of Windows Mixed Reality PC VR headset's learned how unreliable Bluetooth dongles could be and instead began integrating Bluetooth into the adapter. The Reverb G2 is praised for implementing something similar.
It helps a lot to bring the front part of the PSVR2 comfortable close to your eyes, if you release the rearbutton once you wear the PSVR2 on your head, while you keep a thumb pushed on that button and the back part of the strap, then moving the front part of the headset slowly towards your forhead and then quickly turn the knob to lock it again.
I actually can get this way much easier to the closest position instead of just using maximum pressure (which is usually pretty uncomfortable.
That way the strap sits much tighter without too much pressure. Sounds tricky but it is actualy pretty easy to do.
I have both I use my Quest 3 more as i use it for multiple things like fitness apps, music production apps and Mixed Reality games but I only play VR games on my Playstation VR2
The only solution is to get both . I paid $410 USD for the PSVR2 and adapter .
I paid $365 for the Meta Q3 .
Meta = Mobile Entertainment
PSVR2 = Solid Entertainment
365? Wow
If you have a ps5, the psvr2 is a no brainer for pc and ps. The PlayStation exclusives are amazing. Resident Evil 4 Remake, Gran Turismo, Horizon, etc. Can't go wrong with Quest 3 for pc use, though I have been waiting for a new Valve headset for years. The Somnium seems good too.
I've been waiting for this exact video for a long time. It's really great and deserves to be seen by many.
Horizon, GT7, RE4, RE8, Synapse, and Switchback
Asgard's Wrath 2, Assassin's Creed Nexus, VRider SBK, RE 4 Classic, Espire 2 and Batman Arkham Shadow
@@ZFCaio I agree that both have exclusives, that wasn't properly reflected in the video
@@haseebmirza2901 I would just recommend PSVR2 for a person that only have a PS5 and wants to play VR. I think Quest 3 can do so much more than just gaming. But yeah, PS has some good exclusives as well, if it was compatible with PSVR1 titles like Quest can play Quest 2 games, it would have more value IMO.
I never owned a VR headset before, Quest 3 is my first headset, what made me want to buy is that he is not only a gaming device, you can do much stuff that Apple Vision is capable.
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According to Ivry, neither HDR, haptics, nor eye-tracking are blocked; there simply aren't any games that use them, and Sony hasn't spent time implementing them in the driver. According to Ivry, this could be activated by Sony or even by a developer who wants to use it.
Great comparison! Especially the excellent quality trough the lens footage, I never found images online how the PSVR2 lenses clarity look compared to the Quest3, with all the blur and chromatic aberration, but we finally have that now:)
When I bought my PSVR2 last year I noticed the superior FOV of the PSVR2 right away compared to the Reverb G2, the PSVR2 library is still very young but very large for a new headset and has much better quality games to buy if you also want to play PSVR2 games, games that could never run on a Quest 3 if you intend to use it for stand alone gaming, also other than the uncomfortable Quest 3 headband needing to be replaced the battery life of the standard Quest 3 battery is very poor so you will need the Bobo head strap with an extra battery, and then the price of the Quest 3 is far higher than the PSVR2, I think the OLED displays and the built in Displayport technology make the PSVR2 the superior PCVR headset.
You got your psvr2 last year.. so you spent 1000 usd to make it work. So that made the price of the psvr 2 at least 300usd more than the quest 3 with new strap and battery pack. So how was your psvr 2 cheaper than the quest 3 when you purchased it?
Let's also not forget that all the functions that make the psvr 2 better than the quest 3 ard also disabled when connected to pc. So once you take that into consideration the psvr 2 is actually inferior to the quest 3 in regards to pc vr. Not to mention you do have the option of playing the quest 3 by itself and skip the additional 500-1500usd that you have to spend in order to use the psvr 2.
It's not that the psvr 2 is bad, it's just that the selling points for the psvr 2 are only there if it's connected to the ps5, it losses to many of its advantages when it's connected to pc which just makes it entry level in my eyes in comparison.
Yes the headstrong sucks on quest3
For me bluetooth connection problems controllers with PC are often present. Often they lag or disconnect. Only 2.4Ghz receiver worked flawlessly. I've tried different controllers and different PCs, issues are still present
Quest 3 all day for the pancake lenses and the clarity they bring even if the headset is using LCD panels. Also, in version 28 that is coming to the Quest 3, a lot of the color and black levels will supposedly be addressed to give a better dynamic range of color and black levels. Plus the controllers just feel better on Quest 3 as well.
Q3 FTW
Has better exclusive games also,
PSVR2 has any exclusive game announced
And to be honest I love the Standalone fact,
Quest is like a Switch/SteamDeck for itself
I visited a friend a couple weeks ago and wanted to show him RE4 VR,
I was carrying only the headset in my bag
Yes for me just controllers is more than enough to choose quest 3 because quest 3 have controllers with nice pressable buttons for squeezing the hand and on psvr2 there are just buttons for that.
Can't wait to run through Alyx on OLED. Adapter sold out quick earlier but I'm watching for it.
In my opinion both are good and we should just buy the vr we like
As long as it's OLED. LCD in VR should be banned.
@@dtz1000 As long as it is without effect mura like it is on psvr2 ;)
@@dtz1000 Mandatory cables in 2024 should be banned
Honestly I would take RE 4 Remake, RE Village, Horizon Call of the Mountain, and GT7 over the whole Meta store lol. Just my opinion, but I look through the Meta store on my Quest 3 and there's only a couple games I would play (Assassin's Creed Nexus and Asgard's Wrath 2) since I've been spoiled by much better games on other platforms. You didn't mention that PSVR2 has those exclusives. So you either forgot, didn't know, or ignored that fact.
Also LCD should be listed as a CON, and so should battery life. Because even plugged in, the Quest 3 uses the battery and can't continue playing when the battery dies.
The color chart showing how much better the colors are in psvr2 is significant. It would be a no-brainer choice for me; however, no integrated audio solution is simply PURE EVIL.
Just get the BOBOVR A2 headphones attachment
That would be true if not for the terribly small sweet spot. You need to get used to moving your head instead of your eyes but even then, a really good head strap is required because you can easily loose the sweet spot. Fresnel is just terrible.
I guess the bluetooth problem is about USB3.0.
Bluetooth works with 2.4GHz signal band which will be interfered easily while USB3.0 device is working around,
Thanks, Thomas, for the comparison between the Playstation VR 2 and the Meta Quest 3. I have the Playstation VR 1 and the Quest 3. I realize you are not comparing the Playstation VR 1, but i really liked it until the Quest 1 came out, and it was hard to argue with wireless and no cables. Now I can't say how much better the Playstation VR 2 is than the 1, but the Quest 3 is way better than the Quest 1. Having said that for myself, I like the mixed-reality games, bigger sweet spot, and color pass-through that the Quest 3 gives me. I have an Elite Strap with Battery, and in case another around the neck backup battery plus the main Quest 3 battery and I could play for probably 6 hours or so. I haven't used more than the main battery and Elite Strap with Battery because using the headset for 4 hours is probably more than I should do without a break, so at least that stops me from being in VR way too much. What can I say? Once I get on my VR headset, I don't want to stop.
What about using the PSVR 2 with the Index controllers?:)
I still have the OG Vive + Index controllers, and I am considering getting the PSVR2, would be cool if that combo worked somehow.
You can do that with Steam VR
With all due respect, FOV feels much bigger in PSVR2 than Q3, maybe it's becuase of my face shape, but that's the case for me.
As I said in the video, FOV and comfort is VERY individual!
I have both, and I feel that the FOV of the PSVR2 is larger too.
Also I see all the Pimax headsets on your shelf, which model is your favorite overall? Which would you recommend for value and FOV? By the way your English is very good for someone who lives in Germany.
I don't understand how you can say that psvr2 has no exclusives. Horizon, gt 7, RE 8 and 4, remake, and a few others.
Those aren't on the PC. He is reviewing this as a PC VR headset using the new adapter. GT7, Horizon and PS5 exclusives not available on steam.
@@miragegaming984 it's a dumb talking point even moreso then. How is the PLAYSTATION headset going to have PC exclusives? It doesn't make any sense.
@@bonanzabrandon6877the only way I could see anything supporting that argument is if psvr games were ported to pc had features that only the psvr2 could use. ie, adaptive triggers.
But that's stretching it.
@@bonanzabrandon6877 I think you just were dropped on your head. Good luck. I can't help you understand, you are willfully ignorant.
You guys always talk about the same games, damn dude...
You gonna keep playing a 10 hour game like Village forever?
Thanks for then insights and side-by-side comparison! I hope Sony addresses the Bluetooth issues fairly quickly. I'll be testing out my PCI-E Bluetooth adapter from TP-Link and will figure out how well it works soon enough. (I don't have the Sony recommended Bluetooth dongle.)
Integrated sound is convenient, but it's not as good as having actual headphones on, or IEMs/earbuds. It's nice to have the option, but it's also nice to not be stuck with the extra weight if you're not going to use it/to have options. If attaching better options is so terrible because of the wires... then get shorter wires, or strap them down with cable ties/Velcro. You're already dealing with a wired headset.
I'm just curious how my PSVR2 will work with my rtx 4090, 120htz all the time would be a plus.
I have both and the only thing PSVR2 has over the Quest 3 is the Oled screens. What I hate about it the most is how hard it is to be in the sweet spot and how much I constantly have to tweak the headset's position. Zero problem with the Quest since the sweet spot is so wide. Also, Mura. You don't notice it as much while playing but it's definitely there and whenever there's a spectacular scene I always wish that I'm not looking at it through a mesh. Lens glare is ok for the most part, the smear don't get that annoying for me but definitely prefer the Quest's clearness.
The color on the OLED screens are very nice, as someone who owns an OLED TV and an OLED ultrawide monitor, I was disappointed when I first put on my Quest 3. This is also the reason why I bought the PSVR2, I wanted to see the difference OLED would make in VR. The truth is, it is a big difference. But ultimately, the Mura and more importantly the extremely small sweet spot are too much of a tradeoff. Wearing PSVR2 reminds me of the first generation HMDs, you could forget all about it's short comings when you're immersed in the world but they're always there and eventually, unconsciously, you'll want to wear it less and less. Quest 3, however, is so hassle free with the standalone capability and how clear the images always are, I keep wanting to put it on. It allows you to focus on the experience and that is the difference maker.
I would have bought a PS5 and VR2 long ago if it supported 3D Blu-ray like the PS4/VR1 did.
I wanted to do 3D Blurays (even though they're not making them anymore) somewhat recently, so I bought a DLP projector, and have converted my living room into a full on theater, and our TV is just on the floor for the kids or whatever. Got some cheap-ish glasses on Aliexpress, already had a good 5.1 setup, grabbed a cheap screen (needed it because my walls are textured, and this projector is a UST). It's great, being able to let everybody watch 3D together (it's really just me and my kid for the most part), and at the distance our couch has to be from our TV area, the increase FOV is great for split-screen gaming (even though we have to settle for 1080p, it's still better than extra tiny pixels, super far away).
@@ReclaimerTyphoon That sounds like an excellent setup! I think 3D TV would still be a thing *(and it SHOULD!)* if the marketing types hadn't tried to sell it as "The NEW way to watch TV!" instead of "An additional capability you can use to watch certain things now and then if you want." People were afraid they would have to wear "the silly glasses" to watch TV all the time. For whatever reason I'll never understand some people just don't like 3D movies or 3D anything (sometimes I wonder if they realize they see in 3D all day long...) but I absolutely LOVE it! It doesn't give me a headache. It doesn't make me sick. It doesn't make me dizzy. It doesn't give me eyestrain and I'm not too "cool" to be seen wearing 3D glasses in my living room. Adding 3D capability to TVs didn't really cost anything if the glasses were optional so it's just dumb that it went away. Back in the day I overheard some dolt in a store telling the TV kid "I don't want none of them 3D ones." Like you can't just leave it turned off!? Whatever...
Very nice and well committed review, thank you
I don't understand why things seem sort of low res even though it's in 4k. Do we need 8K?
Agree on the games for PSVR2 criticism, except for the exclusive resident evils which are the best experiences I've ever had in VR
The Quest 3 definitely has Mura as well. Mine definitely has it where I never noticed it with the Reverb G2.
I like both. OLED for better blacks, exclusives, and more graphical games. Quest 3 for everything else that I can't get on PSVR2. And fun mixed reality games like Miracle Pool and Astra. I happen to have both. Playing games like mini golf on the PSVR2 I was constantly feeling the wire as I was trying to put. So wireless is a big deal.
Strange how your fov is smaller in psvr2 when most people say the opposite. I assume ipd plays an impact for if psvr2 for is wider or smaller? Mrtv just did a video testing both headsets fov for himself
Yes I know Sebastian has completely different FOV values, but as I said it's absolutely individual, that's why I ALWAYS tell that in my videos again and again and again.
@@voodoodevr-en my question was do yu know what makes fov different person to person
It sounds like both are great setups
The only thing PSVR2 has going for it is Gran Turismo, the best VR game hands down! Resident Evil looks good too but not photorealistic like GT7.
Euhhh, RE Village and RE4 remake? They're the pinnacle of VR horror, so tense and absolutely stunning visually
@@ShapeshifteR-TheAnomalyGameCat I think re2 vr and re3 vr in even better in my opinion because in re2vr and re3vr the whole body is visible and this adds realism
This is why they're gonna keep it close to their chest and will make it only a PS5 exclusive. We will probably never see a PC port of it. Luckily I got a PS5 as well.
@@DeusVult566 I agree Resident Evil looks great but GT7 is actually photo realistic.
@@ShapeshifteR-TheAnomalyGameCat I agree Resident Evil looks great but GT7 is actually photo realistic.
2, there's planning exclusive on the PlayStation. V VR 2. Resident Evil 8. Grand turismo 7. Switch back. Resident Evil 4 horizon, call of the mountain. Now, it might not have as much as the quest. There are at least two hundred games on that system.
Great comparison. I have a Quest 3 with the Bobo S3 headstrap and love it. It The $350 PSVR 2 discount here in the US had me strongly considering one for PCVR but I held off and glad I did. I'm still curious to see how the general VR community receives it when more people have the adapter and if the other features are eventually unlocked. If it improves in time, and drops to like $300, I may reconsider.
The psvr3 or 4 will be out by the time it is 300. LOL
@@bumpsy2358 That's fine. I don't think it has many benefits over just using my Quest 3 for PCVR anyway. I still have my Quest 2 as well so I'll just wait for something that's a big upgrade over the Quest 3 in the next year or so.
You should definitely try a Bluetooth 5.1 adapter. This is what ps5 has. Also the tracking is handled by in out tracking. A day one update might be of great help.
I tried all of them, the TP Link UB500 worked, but only with extension cable
PS5 needs Steam App Native
Yeah that would be cool!
I've used both headsets. They both have their advantages. Even without nice PS5 functions PSVR2 can be better in some cases than Quest 3. Especially that natively wired headset better works and looks with PC. Many points are very subjective. Some of my friends have problems finding lenses sweet spot position, and that's why they prefer Quest 3. For me black levels and good colors are very important. For me often wireless compression algorythms creates heavier overload and screw up the image. As of glare, I really prefer PSVR2 glare, especially on black background. Q3 has some kind of smudge effect, general glow for whole lense in that case, or false image - it feels strange for me. PSVR 2 godrays feels kinda immersive. Anyway, Q3 is simpler to use and understand, in general use it's better.
In the end I love both headsets, they both awesome in their own sense.
I'm still on the cv1, was hoping to love the quest 3 and upgrade but I tried it from a friend of mine and didn't like it, yeah everything was clear but didn't like the colors and comfort, also i dont care for mixed reality, incredibly i still liked more my cv1 , even with the rays, of course I can't read damn thing. Maybe Psvr2 is a good option because of oled and i l also own a ps5. Is there a notable difference because of the resolution?
@@rodiape Resolution is roughly the same on both devices. There are a few small caveats about resolution though:
Quest 3 has it's panel turned roughly 30 degrees, meaning that pixel lines are not horizontal vertical grid. It makes borders of small UI a little rough (if aliasing is disabled). Another thing is that my RTX 3070 can't hold good fps at full resolution in many games when transmitted wirelessly. And compression blurs the image slightly, especially in far distances. However good lenses give more clarity and comfort indeed.
PSVR 2 has the same or even worse resolution on paper, but in the end, connected to PC it feels a little sharper. Difference is kinda small. PSVR 2 has Mura effect, which gives a little noise on top of an image. Some people can't take it, most are okay with it. I kinda like it, it creates cozy feeling like retro device for me. And image is blurry on the edges, you'll need to adjust to sweet spot like every 5 minutes.
Deeper colors, darker darks and brighter brights are notable in PSVR 2. I too in love of OLED displays for games, and gives here an edge for PSVR 2. Like when you walk in the cave, and you see bright exit out of the darkness, it feels so real, just because it's surrounded by black void, and black void totally blends with display borders, creating seamless feeling. Also the bright colorful explosions are such a thrill to see, especially with the haptic feedback PS5 provides. PSVR 2 is so bright friends had tears when there was a brief bright image on display. Never the case with Quest 3.
For me the image is more stunning in PSVR 2, but Quest 3 is easier to use and more comfortable (albeit with 3rd party headstrap). If you okay with a smaller sweet spot and the wire, I think you will enjoy PSVR 2 more. Especially if you have both PS5 and PC
psvr2s mura kills the immersion
How do I get a shelf full of VR headsets?
Spend all your money in VR like me, and work 2 full time jobs like me (16h a day), then it's possible ;)
I'm a bit curious about two particular optics-related questions.
1. The Quest 3 sometimes has trouble focusing on objects that are supposed to be close to your eyes, and I found myself seeing the edge of the lens hole between my eyes more frequently than with previous headsets like the G2. Is this better on the PSVR2?
2. Old OLED headsets like the Quest 1 have the pentile display issue where the effective pixel density is lower than comparable LCD panels. Is this an issue in PSVR2?
1) I never had this problem so I can't compare
2) As the resolution of PSVR2 is much higher than Quest 1, you will not see much SDE or even no SDE
@@voodoodevr-en Thanks for the reply! I guess (1) is not that easy to spot if you play long sessions and spend of the time accustomed to the headset. It is more apparent for me in the first few minutes I put on my headset. With the Q3, if I try to look cross-eyed (e.g. putting your virtual finger between your eyes), I can see the black inside borders of the screen. This is something I never noticed when using the G2 in comparison. Minor annoyance, but not game stopper.
The only con you listed for Quest 3 is "standard strap". IMO its biggest con is that it doesn't directly connect to PC, but instead has to process video as if it was streaming, and you get compression/artifacts and lose quality/resolution.
Don't you have a Link Cable dude?
He also should have put LCD in the CON section of Quest 3.
@@ZFCaio The Link cable is a USB file stream, not DisplayPort, and it's just as compressed as a wireless solution. I love using Steam Link, but every time I come back to a real DisplayPort tether the difference is huge
biggest con with quest 3 is that for the price of entry by the time you get a headstrap battery extension combo and the unit n stand its like over $800 before u buy a game or any new game. battery life sucks majorly as well hence the the need for a extended battery pack. i returned my quest 3 as i didnt feel the upgrade from quest 2 was worth it. But with the ps vr 2 n the sale they just had for 200 off i was able to snag it for $466 which was also buying a game and charging dock for the controllers.
@@julianmazzola Thanks for explaining me, my router is weak, that's why I picked a third party Link Cable, it was cheaper than a stronger router, for me personally looks fine.
I've seen videos from other people who got the PC adapter early and they were having no issues with the controllers, so there might be something messing with your connection near your computer
I have no idea, but now it works with the adapter and the extension... I know at least one other person that has same problems.
PC USB3 ports aren't shielded, so they don't do well with nubby receivers unless they're on an extension cord.
Thanks for the video. I have been using the Quest 3 for quite a while, long before PSVR came out with their adapter to use on a PC. The Quest 3 meets all my requirements and operates very well on all my SIM racing and Action Shooter VR games. No need to spend more money and try the PSVR headset.
I am interested in seeing what the Quest 4 has to offer whenever any future specifications should come out on it. Also what pricings would be. I know this product is not due out for quite a while, and should it ever become a Quest product.
Take care.
Can't wait to play halflife, receiving my adapter this week
You could have been playing for years if you had chosen the right headset
@@ZFCaio With self-contained tracking, 90/120Hz OLED panels, and decent controllers, for $350/$410 w/PC adapter? And compatible with a console VR solution that gives you high-resolution haptics, Adaptive Triggers, eye-tracking features, and in-headset haptics?
Nah.
@@ReclaimerTyphoon This crap doesn't serve for nothing without being connected on PS5 or PC, doesn't have pancake lenses, the resolution per eye is lower, and will not play Batman Arkham Shadow. Most features you mentioned are not on PC as well.
There is no reason to own a PS5, Sony is porting everything to PC, I have myself more than 10 Playstation games on my Steam which I can play with superior quality on my Gaming Laptop or handheld on my SteamDeck
Who cares for Gran Turismo when you have Assetto Corsa?
@@ZFCaio Sony has ported a *handful* of things to PC - hardly "everything". Also, there are a LOT of reasons people would want a console over a PC (and a lot more reasons why someone would want a console & wired headset over a stand-alone VR device). If you can't see that, you lack awareness. I welcome you to seek understanding.
Ultimately, console is just a different path, and its value to your life depends on who you are, and what you find valuable/to what extent.
One (of many) reason to want Gran Turismo: It's a different game. You mean to tell me you've never played, or don't own other racing games? You picked one racing game when you came out of the womb, and have never deviated, tried other things, or enjoyed other racing games?
I don't envy you and your obsession with living a black-and-white life like that.
Yeah, Quest has some exclusive games. I just bought Dungeons of Eternity, because it's awesome, it works great with the haptic vest I bought, and I actually beta tested the game a while back, and have loved it since.
But if you don't care about those exclusive games, and there are other reasons why you want a PS5, then... getting a PS5 and PSVR2 makes a lot of sense.
Also, Quest 3 BARELY has more resolution than PSVR2. And, like I said, PSVR2 has OLED.
Also, also, if you're doing PCVR, Quest 2/3 has video compression artifacts. I specifically bought a wired PCVR headset to avoid that garbage. It's a Pimax 5KSuper. It puts everything else to shame, just with it's wide FOV.
I want to point out 2 things for you. The Bovo Headphones are not bad and off ear for the PSVR 2 also I believe I get more frames per second with a direct to HDMI connection with Microsoft flight sim it's a make-or-break difference (4080). I Hope to get my adapter by the end of the week, will let you know what I think.
Are you saying you connect psvr2 to hdmi? I'm stuck with a gaming laptop with no display port and have been asking if hdmi to display port adaptor will work.. nobody knows.
@@clacky78 I don't think it will work. Besides missing to port. It would be underpowered
I was interested in the PS VR2 as a PCVR headset, but the controller tracking killed it for me.
Hi brother...
The problem you have with Bluetooth dongle is not related to the controllers...
What it is is a windows power saving update that they rolled some time ago it discounts the Bluetooth dongle that's why extension cable works most of the times...
Which should I buy strictly for pc vr? Im planning on finding a vr setup for assetto corsa and want to replace my oculus quest 1
Quest3
@@ReM_KuN someone said psvr2 for less compression
@@MatthewRumble its not noticeable at high bitrate and good connection. And pancake lenses is way better
Depends on you .
Psvr2 will look better as it has no compression and oled pannels .
Quest is wireless (if that bothers you) also the quest 3 lenses are pancake which are very easy to put on and play straight away without needing to adjust the headset to find sweet spot (some people struggle but most can find sweet spot in seconds.
I would say go watch some psvr2 pc adapter reviews as most people make comparisons to quest 3 and other headsets.
@@ReM_KuN OK meta fan boy, stop gaslighting both have positives and negatives and compression is definitely noticeable .
Both headsets are good it's just trade offs for each
I just bought the pc adapter for psvr 2 today and tried it on my pc. All these while i've been playing PCVR using my Quest 3 with steam link (no dedicated wifi router). In my opinion no matter what Quest 3 still wins, even though with my setup once in awhile i can see some compression artefacts particularly on dark areas with my Quest 3, on PSVR 2 even though you don't get the compression artefact but it's instead replaced with the mura effect which more or less have the same distracting effect or sometimes even worse. So for now i'll stick with quest 3 until (hopefully) they come out with updates for PSVR2 that adds eye tracking & HDR.
What do you mean by compression artefacts? I returned a Quest 3 because on dark backgrounds I saw a green pattern like a net in one particular place on the left lens. Is that the compression artefact or is it something else?
@@zuljaras no the one you described sounds like defects. compression artefact looks like muddy texture, like what you'll see when you blow up compressed low resolution JPEG to larger resolution
@@tevtra3563 Ah ok. Thank you! My only goal is to find a Quest 3 without any display defects :D
@@zuljarasi saw that same problem on my psvr2 too, but only in an particular game that happened
@@dekkisfoddaci I guess it is a lens issue because my new Meta Quest 3 does not have this issue at all. Defects all over the place unfortunately!
the OQ3 cost a average of like £50-100 less than the PSVR2 depending on the retailers and the offers they have on
Thanks for the comparison. Could you make a comparison between Pimax Crystal light and psvr2, i would like to know which looks better, Is the oled or the higher resolution more important?
I've had trouble with Bluetooth adapters, turns out an external USB SSD what affecting it. So I moved it away to another USB slot away from the drive and it was ok. Might be related to your problem.
It's often related to the USB controllers on the motherboard in the PC. We have ports out the wazoo nowadays, but usually only one or two controllers that all that data feeds through, which bottlenecks the ports. Especially on a streamer's VR PC, they'd have most ports used up. So if it's a big problem, a dedicated USB add in card can help relieve the bottleneck by giving it a new dedicated controller just for the problem devices.
That or drivers. The reason for what you stated is because there are only so many lanes on the pci express bus. And the way lanes are allocated for usb.
All the games from quest you can Play on steam using revive with any pc vr headset🎉
For the quest 3, if you are using steam link, the best way to connect to the PC is to make a hotspot from your PC to the quest. The connection was a lot more stable for me at least. I have to use the shared ISP provided router so bypassing that is helpful.
Weird, when I use my Quest 3 the FOV still feels like goggles, while the PSVR2 FOV feels huge, with vertical fov almost as far as I can look.
Get a pcie Bluetooth adapter for your pc, they have antennas and won’t cause issues like these tiny usb adapters.
i think its because of the weight. how the headset being a front oriented weight pulls it down, even when its tightly fastened, so that you notice the pull, and your brain goes "hey, its not on our face, so its not real" while the psvr2 is way more balanced and lighter.
I can play more hours using psvr2 than the quest 3 because quest 3 is way way heavier.
You can play more hours using the psvr2 because the Quest 3 will run out of battery in 2.
@@poorsvids4738 lmfao thats a good one
It’s too bad this only came out else I would’ve given a second thought about the Quest 3 I bought last year. But having said that being untethered (with a battery pack) and being able to play PCVR wirelessly in a larger room separate from my PC is refreshing.
which is the best for sim racing?
I would probably say the PSVR 2 is "better" for sim racing use case in that it is much lighter and does not put pressure on your face (comfortable to use for long racing periods). Also feel like the vertical field of view is better on the PSVR 2. Lastly, the PSVR 2 is not "encoding" the video that is coming from the PC so the image will not be susceptible to compression artifacts that can occur on the Quest 3 (which either gets H264, HEVC, or AV1 video depending on your graphics card); this can result in a muddy image especially during sim racing (though if you have a 30 or 40 series GPU this is not an issue (as they can encode HEVC and AV1).
Pico Neo 3 link for sims. £230, Displayport.. my goto for Elite Dangerous, AC, Ms flight sim etc..
Respectively, your comparison on the optics seems a bit lazy. Yes, OLED offers vibrant colors, superior contrast, and deeper blacks, but the Quest 3 still delivers decent color and contrast without any Mura effect.
Having tested both today ( had the pcvr2 pcvr adapter early too) the Quest 3 has SIGNIFICANTLY clearer optics and a noticeably better sweet spot (PSVR 2 has 18 PPD, while the Quest 3 has 26 PPD).
Additionally, the PSVR 2 suffers from noticeable glare and chromatic aberration.
When it comes to movies, the Quest 3 stands out as a portable movie player with many more options. The clarity is substantially better, and 8K UA-cam videos look stunning on the Quest 3.
My buddies always get amazed when I send them videos of a CINEMA screen in my Room
Watch the video again, I talked about Sweet Spot (better in Quest 3) and also Glare, I even inserted a comparison picture.
And please don't tell me I'm lazy... I really hate to hear that as I work 16h a day (2 full time jobs) to make free videos for you guys ;)
Those tiny USB Bluetooth adapters have absolutely minuscule antennas so that may be the issue. I have a long-range USB Bluetooth adapter that gives me Bluetooth connectivity pretty much anywhere in my house, it's basically just a 5.0 dongle with an adjustable antenna sticking out of it. The internal PS5 Bluetooth antenna is fairly large so that may be the ticket to fixing your Bluetooth issues.
I also tried one with a huge antenna, also didnt work!
@@voodoodevr-en darn. Must be a firmware issue with the controllers maybe? Hopefully they come out with a fix.
Psvr2 doesn't have exclusives??? Horizon, gt7, 2 resident evils, synapse, Switchback. Plus exclusive versions of star wars, song in the smoke and hitman coming up. Best versions of many games, no man's sky etc. Been very happy with it so far.
Quest 3 for me
Better resolution
Mixed Reality is awesome (not only for MR games, but for other usages, such as watching videos in a big screen while washing the dishes or working out)
Works Standalone, I don't need to be always connected to my Gaming Laptop (wired cables in 2024? give me a break!)
Better exclusives, yeah RE Village and Horizon look really nice, but I prefer Assassin's Creed Nexus VR and Asgard's Wrath tbh, and I think at some point will release Horizon VR on Steam, we already have the two flat screen games
For me Quest 3 is the combination of PSVR2 with Apple Vision Pro in one $500 product
I am using Quest daily to learn your native language, the German language, which is language I want to learn since I am a German descendant
And I even tried a Taekwondo App
Also some games have Crossplay with PC which is awesome
Test Blade & Sorcery on the PSVR 2.
Thank you for this video ❤❤
My name is Tomaz, mine is TO not TH 😅
So they are 120hz, did you tested any game using Lossless scaling program? I wonder how good it can do for VR gameplay? I use x3 so i can play many pc tittles on 180fps with rx 6750xt and its a monster but i dont have Vr anymorr so i cant test
But what about Horizon call of mountains is only exclusive to PSVR 2 ?? You said no game is exclusive to psvr2?
Trash game
Both. Quest 3 for rec room the rise of jumbotron session and psvr2 for cyberpunk 2077 VR mod, though the quest 3 with cable is doing very well with cyberpunk VR mod on 3080 card. Cam run at high graphics with max resolution on steam link. Psvr2 though for better FOV and hopefully ray tracing. Also no hot battery with wifi beaming directly to your face. Still, the real answer is having love for both headsets.
Edit- i picked up the psvr2 at the discount price. Absolute steal.
I've always had issues with Bluetooth on my PCs so I spent a lot of time getting it working properly.
Simply use a Bluetooth adapter with an antenna, or an integrated Bluetooth card with an external antenna. My Bluetooth keyboard used to disconnect from 7 feet away, now I can use it anywhere in the house and even outside. My PS5 controller used to disconnect if more than one was connected but no longer do so with an antenna.
I've tried cheap antenna adapters and expensive ones. The main thing is the antenna.
Regarding the video once I can purchase the PSVR2 PC adapter I'll be testing it out.
I think you undersell the pancake lenses in this. For me the difference between pancake lenses and fresnel lenses is transformational. Even without the colour passthrough, faster wifi, av1 encoding and XR2 gen 2 performance advantages, I'd have paid for the Quest 3 over (even significantly cheaper) last gen headsets with fresnel lenses like the Quest 2, PSVR2 or HP Reverb G2 for the lenses alone. For me the biggest drawback of the Quest 3 is the reduction in binocular overlap. Especially as you really notice it with pancake lenses compared to fresnel lens headsets, because you can actually move your eyes instead of your head to look around, and your peripheral vision isn't a blurry mess.
I also find reading normal sized text through fresnel lenses headache inducing, and for that reason I never used them for web browsing or other general computing. Even watching videos, it's the difference between being able to lie back and look with my eyes in the Quest 3, versus struggling to get the sweet spot every time I put the headset on and then having to move my whole head instead of my eyes to look at everything. I still enjoyed (became hooked on) VR with fresnel lenses, but I use VR much more with the Quest 3 and only return to the fresnel lenses for multiplayer when I've put someone else in the better headset.
The problem with pancake lenses is that they make everything look a bit more dim. He didn't mention it, but the PSVR2 display is brighter.
He also definitely should have put binocular overlap in the CON section of the Quest 3.
I don't find brightness an issue with the Quest 3 at all, I turn it down to get better contrast and blacks. The Quest 3 has also done much better with motion clarity (even when the PSVR2 isn't limited by reprojection), which I think is just a matter of implementation and an advantage of LCDs. The clarity of pancake lenses though is just a massive difference. It changes what content I find usable in the headset, how much time I use it, comfort, reduces setup friction etc etc.
I think the fresnel lenses were a step back with the PSVR2 honestly. I'm not even convinced the increased resolution of the PSVR2 made up for the use of fresnel lenses and OLED with a pentile subpixel array instead of the PSVR1's aspheric lenses and RGB stripe OLED. The controllers, inside out tracking and eye tracking (when used well for dynamic foveated rendering, such as with NMS) are what I consider the major improvements from PSVR1 to PSVR2 (along with the extra grunt of the PS5).
Crystal clear wireless PCVR 6ghz streaming to Quest 3 all day. PSVR2 advocates are at best just coping at this stage.
I'm not coping, I have both! I will continue to use PSVR2 for the DisplayPort tether. Steam Link is amazing but there is still a considerable difference in visuals, especially in high-contrast scenes.
@@julianmazzola I would love to try myself, unfortunately any of my PS5 friends are interested in VR
Wireless is nice but the latency that comes from streaming is a bigger issue than the compression. Quest 3 has about 40ms of latency which is about double of what you get from wired PCVR headsets also running at 120hz. Will you notice 20ms of additional latency? Probably. The difference in latency between 30 fps and 60 fps is only 16ms and many people can feel a difference.
@@poorsvids4738 Its completely different things to compare, frame rate fluidity vs input delay. Human reaction time to visual input ie. green lights at the start of the race are in 200 ms for elite F1 drivers and possibly 250-300ms for average human. 20ms delay is basically unnoticeable. Frame rate is a different story, for sim racing anything below 90 fps is quite noticeable for average person.
I was thinking that display port uncompressed connection is superior to wireless compressed but in reality 20ms of additional delay is too small to notice.
@@arkadijko I don't think that's quite right. Vsync doesn't add much latency either, buffering 2 or 3 frames which is 17ms or 25ms at 120hz, yet many will notice it and wouldn't recommend using it for competitive games.
Many also notice input lag using DLSS3 Frame Generation. It will make the frame rate higher and it will look smoother but the input delay won't improve beyond the actual game frame rate and people notice.
As a quest 3 user I would like to welcome psvr2 users on board steamvr, have fun.
ps. You have the opportunity to play Half Life 2 (+episodes) in vr as a foretaste before Alyx.
I play more on my quest 3 easier to move around and games are cheaper if not free 😎
Great comparison!
thank you!
Easy
If you have psvr2 get the adapter and pray for fixes
If you don't have anything get the quest 3
Everyone doesn't own a ps5, let alone a psvr2. This if for people considering buying a psvr2.
@@Wobbothe3rd There is no reason to own a PS5, Sony is just porting everything to PC, I prefer to just wait the games to come, I have a big backlog, so no need to hurry up
@@Wobbothe3rd isnt it obvious that i meant people who already own both and want to get pc functionality?
Display port question: with the Quest 3 there is always a performance, clarity etc difference depending on if you choose steam vr vs oculus vr vs virtual desktop.
With a wired display port headset do you eliminate all those variables?
if you like gran turismo 7, you have to buy and PVSR2. if you like PC games, you should buy and quest 3
I would add a big difference is that you can go Wireless with Quest 3 vs. PSVR 2 is wired.
having 2 hours of playtime wireless doesnt give me any good reason to sacrifice oled.
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This Bluetooth problems are being caused by a incompatibility between the versions of the Bluetooth. I think Dualsenses uses BT 5.1 or 5.2, dont remember right now so if you use a 5.0 receptor, it will give you problems. Ive had many problems here with more than one DS controllers connected to my old computer. My new computer now have the last BT version on the mother board and now the problems are gone. But, even so, if I try to connect more than two DS controlers on it, it will keep disconecting one of then. A random one. It is a PAIN and I think it is a Windows problem with their native BT drivers because ive solved this problem by instaling a program called DSX, that are being sold cheap on Steam and do miracles! Thats why I think it is a M$ driver´s problem to favor the use of their controlers over the Sony ones. Thats it guys. Lets hope Sony fix this issue with M$ and Windows can finally accept a Sony controler without problems. Natively.
The front pc ports have always been finicky. Over the years I've faced similar issues with every single pc that Ive owned.
I thought you could use quest headsets with a cable instead of wireless
You can, the cable is called Quest Link Cable
You can, but it's not the same. Link is still a compressed video stream with similar visual fidelity to wireless. It looks great, but a native DisplayPort is still noticeably better, especially in high contrast scenes.
@@julianmazzola You are telling BS now "video stream with similar visual fidelity to wireless" I have a third party Link Cable myself, it looks crispy clear with the Link Cable, I am starting to think you are a PSVR2 fanboy trying to glorify the wired headset
@@ZFCaio It looks crispy clear with the wireless too! I don't know how many times I have to say that I have both headsets, and it's personal preference. It is however most definitely BS to say that Link cable is just as good as a native DisplayPort tether, it definitely is not.
@@julianmazzola I doubt the difference is big, this sounds like Digital Foundry Elitism, but need to try myself. My Quest don't look good on the wireless cuz my router is weak.
by any chance do you know if the existing VirtualLink adapter (which basically looks identical to the sony adapter) will work? would be great if you could try it for us :D
I agree with everything besides the games. Yes they have more but the PlayStation games have always been a better quality for the most part.
That is a shame about the bluetooth issues on the controllers with PS VR2.
there's a ton of variables that can affect bt connections.
I'm guessing part of why having the dongle plugged directly into his pc had worse connectivity than over an extension cable is due to the emf the pc generates. Especially usb 3.0 ports running at the same frequency as the bt dongle's wireless frequency.
You move the dongle away, you get a clearer signal. It's because of that reason why I connected my wireless adapters over extension cables instead of direct into the pc. Except for my bt adapter which is built into my wifi card. It still needs a usb header for the Bluetooth, but I get great connectivity with it with it's antenna.
@@tekgeekster yeah. I still plan on getting this and trying it.
I hope my controllers work well, as I plan on using this as my primary PCVR headset, but we will see.
I have the Quest 3 as well, so I am just going to see which one I prefer.
Probably a controller update that needs to be . This adapter isn't even released yet @@ObserVR-gamer