driving mode - comfort/eco/standard has big difference. I don't know why many reviewers are saying "driving mode" doesn't change anything. Steering wheel is much lighter with comfort mode. it is significant change. eco is the most heavier so is good for high speed. I have been driving my sedona for a week and am very pleased. Last car was 2012 honda odyssey touring and I will never go back to honda.
CJ Kims because they don't drive them enough or expect them to handle like a Golf GTi. I can feel a huge difference in all three modes. I would say the sport mode is best on the highway and I like comfort in the parking lot or around town.
We just bought a SX trim and really like it. We paid several thousands under MSRP. It has a very commanding road presence. Unfortunately three features I would have really liked to have, adaptive cruise control, lane departure warning, and surround view camera are only available on the SX-L trim, which also comes with two giant sunroofs and the lounge chairs, something we did not want. So Kia if you ever read this, make a "SX technology package" which gives you those three features but without the sun roof and keeping the 8 passenger seating.
I do not like this presenter, or Consumer Reports. He seems to be really critical of Hyundai and Kia products. They always seem so negative of them, when in my own research and experience, they are equal to or better than Honda and Toyota in the value for dollar segment. This reviewer is also not properly informing the public, a fully loaded Sedona has more standard equipment than either the Toyota or Honda. Neither of those two have a surround-view camera, for instance, a very useful thing for a huge vehicle like this. Not impressed.
I understand you could fold the 2nd row seat bottoms vertically with the seat back then push the 2nd row forward right up against the 1st row. Not as elegant as the Chrysler vans but it's better than just folding down the 2nd row seat back as shown in the video. But you can't do that on the top trim with the foot rest.
not really, they move forward and give you a big entrance to the back. I own a odyssey for 5 year i have never taking the 2rd row out. Even when fitting in big cabinet from Costco.
Also, if you are going to talk about value when making comparisons from one model to the other, I wish you would put more emphasis on resale value. I wish I had done that before I bought my Quest. Kia Sedona may look nice, but if the cost upfront is close to an Odyssey, that overall value isn't even close when considering resale value. I understand it's probably one of the more difficult data points to report, since you need years of data available to do it with any reliability, but it's so critical to the overall purchase decision that it really deserves its own column in your standard auto reporting when it's available.
I own a 2011 odyssey, it does hold up it value. I actually do like this KIA sedona, but your right resale is crap. Reliability is poor. So why get one beside it looking "cool" for mini van. It does have some nice features other mini vans do not have: center console arm reset (no other mini van has this; on a long road trip, its nice to have). Those stow and go seats Tom is saying is a Con. Is actually a pro since they pop up and out of the way you have the biggest entrance to the 3rd row.
KIA's reliability is as good now as Honda and Toyota. Also, remember that resale projections are based on MSRP, not street price. The sticker might be only $1K apart, but with incentives more like $5K less out the door. Also, the Sienna in this video did poorly in the small overlap crash test.
not to mention the fact that the Sedona is by far the most unreliable Kia product on the road. you buy Sienna or Odyssey you know you've got the thing for at least 200k miles the Kia Sedona barely makes it out of its basic bumper to bumper warranty without giving you a list of problems. I've rented several and have come across two with faulty air
Anything is better than either Honda or Toyota. Honda Odyssey is extremely unreliable, and the Sienna isn't any better. Those that have a Sedona like it. I just wish GM would bring back minivans.
Better than a deathtrap TOYOTA. I have driven the Sienna minivan, awful. The GM minivan (Oldsmobile at the time) was a much better vehicle. So, I don't think you know NOTHING about vehicles in general.
Consumer Reports talks in a very generally-informed and elderly perspective. They lack the sophistication and detail of many newer car reviewers on UA-cam. I predict Consumer Reports will out of business once their subscribers (print mostly) die off in about 10-20 years.
driving mode - comfort/eco/standard has big difference.
I don't know why many reviewers are saying "driving mode" doesn't change anything.
Steering wheel is much lighter with comfort mode.
it is significant change.
eco is the most heavier so is good for high speed.
I have been driving my sedona for a week and am very pleased.
Last car was 2012 honda odyssey touring and I will never go back to honda.
CJ Kims because they don't drive them enough or expect them to handle like a Golf GTi. I can feel a huge difference in all three modes. I would say the sport mode is best on the highway and I like comfort in the parking lot or around town.
We just bought a SX trim and really like it. We paid several thousands under MSRP. It has a very commanding road presence. Unfortunately three features I would have really liked to have, adaptive cruise control, lane departure warning, and surround view camera are only available on the SX-L trim, which also comes with two giant sunroofs and the lounge chairs, something we did not want. So Kia if you ever read this, make a "SX technology package" which gives you those three features but without the sun roof and keeping the 8 passenger seating.
I do not like this presenter, or Consumer Reports. He seems to be really critical of Hyundai and Kia products. They always seem so negative of them, when in my own research and experience, they are equal to or better than Honda and Toyota in the value for dollar segment. This reviewer is also not properly informing the public, a fully loaded Sedona has more standard equipment than either the Toyota or Honda. Neither of those two have a surround-view camera, for instance, a very useful thing for a huge vehicle like this. Not impressed.
older Kias and Hyundais are known for issues.
I came up with the Nissan Quest, Darn it!
I understand you could fold the 2nd row seat bottoms vertically with the seat back then push the 2nd row forward right up against the 1st row. Not as elegant as the Chrysler vans but it's better than just folding down the 2nd row seat back as shown in the video. But you can't do that on the top trim with the foot rest.
Non-removable 2nd row seats? Wow. Big Mistake.
not really, they move forward and give you a big entrance to the back. I own a odyssey for 5 year i have never taking the 2rd row out. Even when fitting in big cabinet from Costco.
Also, if you are going to talk about value when making comparisons from one model to the other, I wish you would put more emphasis on resale value. I wish I had done that before I bought my Quest. Kia Sedona may look nice, but if the cost upfront is close to an Odyssey, that overall value isn't even close when considering resale value. I understand it's probably one of the more difficult data points to report, since you need years of data available to do it with any reliability, but it's so critical to the overall purchase decision that it really deserves its own column in your standard auto reporting when it's available.
I own a 2011 odyssey, it does hold up it value. I actually do like this KIA sedona, but your right resale is crap. Reliability is poor. So why get one beside it looking "cool" for mini van. It does have some nice features other mini vans do not have: center console arm reset (no other mini van has this; on a long road trip, its nice to have). Those stow and go seats Tom is saying is a Con. Is actually a pro since they pop up and out of the way you have the biggest entrance to the 3rd row.
KIA's reliability is as good now as Honda and Toyota. Also, remember that resale projections are based on MSRP, not street price. The sticker might be only $1K apart, but with incentives more like $5K less out the door.
Also, the Sienna in this video did poorly in the small overlap crash test.
appalling review, almost seems bias,
keep your eye on the road! next episode, crash safety.
Thanks for taking care of the problems of the original video, lol.
0:05 Toyota Sienna
not to mention the fact that the Sedona is by far the most unreliable Kia product on the road. you buy Sienna or Odyssey you know you've got the thing for at least 200k miles the Kia Sedona barely makes it out of its basic bumper to bumper warranty without giving you a list of problems. I've rented several and have come across two with faulty air
What ? I thought I watched this 2 weeks ago ?? right ?
I'd buy any other Van before I'd buy that
Anything is better than either Honda or Toyota. Honda Odyssey is extremely unreliable, and the Sienna isn't any better.
Those that have a Sedona like it. I just wish GM would bring back minivans.
Wanna provide any proof of that? Cuz you're dead wrong. GM minivans were death traps, btw.
Better than a deathtrap TOYOTA.
I have driven the Sienna minivan, awful. The GM minivan (Oldsmobile at the time) was a much better vehicle.
So, I don't think you know NOTHING about vehicles in general.
Frederick Rothe III Trolls will be trolls.
La Tempesta The only troll on here is yourself. Go and find something useful to do.
Dont feed the trolls!
Consumer Reports talks in a very generally-informed and elderly perspective. They lack the sophistication and detail of many newer car reviewers on UA-cam. I predict Consumer Reports will out of business once their subscribers (print mostly) die off in about 10-20 years.