Are School Dress Codes Sexist and Racist?

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  • @Marcownz747
    @Marcownz747 5 років тому +855

    I am 28. I have a 6 year old daughter. I manage a restaurant.
    I hear the "manyworkforces have uniform requirements, so students can get prepared by having a dress code". The difference is that I am not legally compelled to have my current job, nor is any adult. Yes, some jobs have dress codes. Most do, in fact. But if we dont like our jobs dress code, we have the freedom to find a new job with a different dress code.
    However, if our kids are in public school and we (parents and kids together) disagree with the dresscode, our option is to conform, provide alternative schooling at our monetary expense, or lose our kids because we arent sending them to school.
    School isnt the real world. In the real world, bosses get hot too, and they dont freak out when its 100 degrees and somebody wears short shorts. If they do, employees have the option to quit without going to jail.
    Schools need to stop preparing for the real world of 30 years ago and start respecting students with the rights theyd have after they turned 18.
    The simple fact that students MUST attend on threat of financial or legal burden should mean that school policies are held to a higher standard than businesses.

  • @cyanleafgd
    @cyanleafgd 5 років тому +2664

    Teacher when student gets bullied: I'll just erase that from my memory
    Teacher when jacket has hood: *NANI?!*

    • @wendyakinyi2480
      @wendyakinyi2480 4 роки тому +4

      Kenyan

    • @ErutaniaRose
      @ErutaniaRose 4 роки тому +55

      Student: IT'S COLD! (The air-conditioning really be like winter.)

    • @leodaturtle6251
      @leodaturtle6251 4 роки тому +36

      Teacher: oh bullies who cares oh a person with a slightly over sized shirt maybe I should pick on them

    • @KrishaUdeshi
      @KrishaUdeshi 4 роки тому +6

      and when midriff is showing, and when shoulders are showing, and when your shorts are a little short

    • @beanie9040
      @beanie9040 4 роки тому +4

      EXACTLY...

  • @Em-id5ku
    @Em-id5ku 5 років тому +2095

    Bruh I got dress coded for my shirt being “to long” LIKE WTF FIRST MY SHIRT IS TO SHORT AND NOW IT TO LONG YOU CAN SEE MY SHORTS WTF

    • @caussion0443
      @caussion0443 3 роки тому +145

      I once saw a person from my school get dress coded for having there tshirt not tucked in

    • @Variane-zg3lr
      @Variane-zg3lr 3 роки тому +146

      I got dress coded for wearing *grey jeans* instead of blue jeans

    • @only_ash
      @only_ash 3 роки тому +37

      @Variane 2008 excuse me but, *what*

    • @umckka
      @umckka 3 роки тому +45

      @@fuitgummyy why are schools so sexist omg-

    • @Tatiana-nl8yj
      @Tatiana-nl8yj 3 роки тому +52

      I was once dress coded for my ankle boots saying that boots were inappropriate

  • @mr.ghalagafari514
    @mr.ghalagafari514 4 роки тому +597

    That one kid who said “they shouldn’t take school as ‘let me show off my body’ “
    I don’t want to wear a tank top to get affection from boys. I want to wear one because it’s comfortable and i feel confident and the best version of myself.
    I have shoulders. If i take my jacket off during a test, no boy is going to want to burn his test and come lick my shoulder.

    • @scrunchytoes
      @scrunchytoes 3 роки тому +79

      exactly. its not a "let me show off my body" its a "im dressing how i feel comfortable dressing so i can feel good abt myself" they keep saying in the video its so we can do our best at learning and stuff but i would probably do a lot better if i was able to wear stuff that makes me feel good abt myself/feel comfortable with myself

    • @yeetmaster9374
      @yeetmaster9374 3 роки тому +64

      As a representative of the male gender i completely agree, none of us want to come lick your knees and shoulders

    • @user-dl3vn8ze9n
      @user-dl3vn8ze9n 3 роки тому +49

      Ikr
      Especially as an aromantic asexual, I don't wanna wear skimpy clothes for the show. Frick, I'm insecure about even showing too much skin! I ONLY wanna wear these things because it's comfortable.

    • @karolinkiehl4097
      @karolinkiehl4097 3 роки тому +41

      I am more the "i wear this because it's fucking warm outside in the summer" type of person.

    • @cinnamonforbreakfast9054
      @cinnamonforbreakfast9054 3 роки тому +9

      @@scrunchytoes literally! I want to wear leggings but they’re not allowed 😬 I’m also alternative so most of my close consists of skirts, baggy or super tight shirts and they’re all dress coded- I have no clothes in my closet and I’m repeating my same damn clothes 😔

  • @RandonPersom542
    @RandonPersom542 4 роки тому +2850

    I remember in high school, the vice principal made all the girl students stay after one lunch period. She literally said all girls have to stay, all male students were let go.
    She then gave a speech about the dress code and how upset she was that so many girls were breaking it.
    Groups left by table, and mine was the last to leave. She stopped us and told us we were actually ok, she never saw us breaking the dress code and she was grateful for that.
    The vice principal forced my group, who she actively admitted broke no rules, to be late for class because of our gender.

    • @alofii6106
      @alofii6106 3 роки тому +374

      “Haha yes I should disrupt their education for dReSs cOdE which I’ve never seen them break.”

    • @makiharukawa815
      @makiharukawa815 3 роки тому +206

      Its s e x i s t

    • @morithedoll7537
      @morithedoll7537 3 роки тому +52

      yikes

    • @bunna6627
      @bunna6627 3 роки тому +34

      @@makiharukawa815 yep

    • @Peach-ys5wp
      @Peach-ys5wp 3 роки тому +46

      What about nonbinary people -

  • @Lee-fk9sh
    @Lee-fk9sh 4 роки тому +1847

    How is a shoulder going to distract me? How am I going to be staring at a knee? When would I ever stop writing and just look at a girls stomach? I literally don’t care. Only creeps do tbh.

    • @ruefysh9576
      @ruefysh9576 3 роки тому +255

      Mmm these succulent kneecaps

    • @rachelwu943
      @rachelwu943 3 роки тому +154

      THANK YOU FINALLY SOMEONE SAID THIS- Boys don’t even care about those yet we still get dress coded for it-

    • @coralline1984
      @coralline1984 3 роки тому +27

      I think the real reason that they don’t allow spaghetti straps is because no one wants to see your under arms. 🤔

    • @madalynburke4749
      @madalynburke4749 3 роки тому +101

      True. they should actually be getting the creeps in trouble, not the girls.

    • @Lee-fk9sh
      @Lee-fk9sh 3 роки тому +85

      @@madalynburke4749 I agree. It’s not the girls fault that boys are looking, which they aren’t.

  • @esteban_osman
    @esteban_osman 4 роки тому +4515

    "A heavy ring that could injure someone." Did i just hear this come out of a professional's mouth? You do realize you people give us pencils and scissors, right?

    • @titiadams8300
      @titiadams8300 4 роки тому +59

      Richboi haha ikr

    • @dogski2822
      @dogski2822 4 роки тому +391

      A ring, no that’s too dangerous, it could hurt someone.
      Pencils and scissors which can and have been used as actual weapons, oh yeah, no problem there. Cleary these people haven’t seen John Wick.

    • @shia2308
      @shia2308 4 роки тому +159

      In food tech you let us handle knifes and blenders which could take out fingers off clean.

    • @SylviaRustyFae
      @SylviaRustyFae 3 роки тому +108

      Dont tell him about books; they make rings seem light

    • @Best_Blake
      @Best_Blake 3 роки тому +45

      We better start using rings to write I mean there really is no other option.

  • @lvl5dino749
    @lvl5dino749 5 років тому +2062

    My dress code is very chill
    It's like, nothing inappropriate. Lots of people wear ripped jeans, show their shoulders/stomachs, and my school is a very good one

    • @AboveTheNoise
      @AboveTheNoise  5 років тому +304

      We are just curious: where is your school? Is it a high school or middle school?

    • @flimsyfox
      @flimsyfox 5 років тому +165

      My school is also in this exact mindset. My school is in Montana, and I think the reason why schools here are less “strict” is because most schools in the Northwestern US do not experience the same problems that schools in other regions face (like drug abuse, violence, etc.).

    • @deshie8248
      @deshie8248 5 років тому +16

      same with mine

    • @saltyagel3880
      @saltyagel3880 5 років тому +30

      LUCKY

    • @marik6437
      @marik6437 5 років тому +7

      Same

  • @Anonymous-rw8rx
    @Anonymous-rw8rx 5 років тому +690

    Last Friday my school banned legging and shorts completely, and then i realized I had nothing to wear, the only things I could wear were jeans, but those are expensive in my area, the only thing I could afford is leggings and nothing more.

    • @Recroomsniperpro
      @Recroomsniperpro 3 роки тому +31

      They make legging jeans I think I’ve seen them

    • @Anonymous-rw8rx
      @Anonymous-rw8rx 3 роки тому +49

      @@Recroomsniperpro those were also banned

    • @laurynmiscool
      @laurynmiscool 3 роки тому +11

      @@Anonymous-rw8rx WOW that is said sweatpants????

    • @Recroomsniperpro
      @Recroomsniperpro 3 роки тому +2

      @@Anonymous-rw8rx wow I thought that would work

    • @Anonymous-rw8rx
      @Anonymous-rw8rx 3 роки тому +26

      @@Recroomsniperpro well, now it does since I don't go to school anymore until who knows when. So I get to wear whatever I want because it's my house and teachers can't tell me what to wear

  • @boutiquebitcoin809
    @boutiquebitcoin809 5 років тому +940

    Starts RAINING
    Teacher: No Hoods!

    • @liv4983
      @liv4983 4 роки тому +57

      My teacher had us running when it was raining and it was light rain but it was more than 4 raindrops then it got way worse and NOW he decided to take us in 🙄 A week later 7 people missed school because of a bad cold and fever!

    • @abdulhaleemdomado3132
      @abdulhaleemdomado3132 4 роки тому +23

      @@liv4983 tell their parents its the teachers fault

    • @ducklife5711
      @ducklife5711 4 роки тому +19

      @@liv4983 Ik my teacher made us also run while it was raining 😑😒

    • @angelasharp3939
      @angelasharp3939 3 роки тому +14

      We have to eat outside at assigned seats due to covid and the principal will walk out and yell at the kids wearing hoods because its against dress code, we're outside and its 40 degrees with a wind chill. Half of us have books on our paper trays they give to keep them from blowing away. It really sucks and we aren't allowed to leave from outside because we will get a pink slip for not being in the correct place

    • @-nada-5370
      @-nada-5370 3 роки тому +4

      Ok so for me, at my old school we would be able to stay inside and stuff if it was raining but i had moved to this new school where they didn’t do that, my teacher had us run in POURING down rain it was like water buckets it was so much rain, i had a really bad cold and fever and missed 2 weeks of school, so did my friend

  • @orsettomorbido
    @orsettomorbido 5 років тому +1084

    How can i pay attention in a context where there are FACES SHOWING?

    • @Deerism
      @Deerism 3 роки тому +25

      Don’t really have to worry about that now, lol

    • @jellybubble5796
      @jellybubble5796 3 роки тому +48

      This aged poorly

    • @lamp3rt
      @lamp3rt 3 роки тому +6

      oml that profile picture is so cringe-

    • @werewolf6513
      @werewolf6513 3 роки тому +11

      About that.....

    • @bunna6627
      @bunna6627 3 роки тому +4

      @@lamp3rt it’s supposed to be I think

  • @Mykasan
    @Mykasan 5 років тому +701

    Dresscode does take away some expression.
    It often targets "trends" so makes shopping for clothes becomes harder for teens and parents.

    • @AboveTheNoise
      @AboveTheNoise  5 років тому +98

      That’s a great point and came up a bunch when we were interviewing students. They said it can be really tough to find clothes in stores that meet dress code requirements.

    • @AboveTheNoise
      @AboveTheNoise  5 років тому +44

      That’s a great point and came up a bunch when we were interviewing students. They said it can be really tough to find clothes in stores that meet dress code requirements.

    • @alessiapalma8823
      @alessiapalma8823 5 років тому +9

      Better, so they won’t binge-shopping and less clothes’ll end up in landfills

    • @i_am_snakelake6055
      @i_am_snakelake6055 3 роки тому +9

      And it's boring

    • @i_am_snakelake6055
      @i_am_snakelake6055 3 роки тому +11

      And most the shirts that arent supposed to be wore is very uncomfortable

  • @maribelsanchez5703
    @maribelsanchez5703 4 роки тому +445

    Schools: *bans ripped jeans for "showing to much skin"*
    Shorts: i show an entire leg!
    t-shirts: I show entire arms!

    • @maribelsanchez5703
      @maribelsanchez5703 3 роки тому +4

      @Shvenro i only wear basketball shorts and never play basketball

  • @snoopycchu291
    @snoopycchu291 3 роки тому +426

    How schools think kids will react
    “ omg bro I can’t focus, Kayla is wearing shorts! I can see her thighs...I can’t help myself! THE THIGHS! I HAVE NO SELF CONTROL AND I CANT STOP SEXUALIZING FEMALES! THE THIGHS- THEY ARE TOO POWERFUL!”
    What it’s actually like
    *dosn’t even notice anything because in the real world ppl dress however they want*
    “Ugh this question is hard. I wanna dieeeeeeeee “

    • @rachelwu943
      @rachelwu943 3 роки тому +39

      I know right- Only creeps would be like that lmao

    • @dontlistentome7498
      @dontlistentome7498 3 роки тому +43

      schools for some reason assume M A X I M U M H O R N Y instead of just normal fucking thinking.

    • @user-dl3vn8ze9n
      @user-dl3vn8ze9n 3 роки тому +33

      Even if a boy liked a girl's thighs, common sense would tell them not to think about it in the middle of the exam they didn't study enough for.

    • @snoopycchu291
      @snoopycchu291 3 роки тому +8

      @@scrunchytoes exactly but schools think exactly what random outsider said for some reason.

    • @tuluppampam
      @tuluppampam 3 роки тому +5

      The "I wanna die" is awfully close to what my entire class was like

  • @maddievicky
    @maddievicky 5 років тому +1429

    “People run around in pajama pants”
    But like they don’t though

    • @kermit5822
      @kermit5822 4 роки тому +87

      People here do, but now one cares tbh

    • @SteechIII
      @SteechIII 3 роки тому +17

      they do

    • @lilcinnamonroll9577
      @lilcinnamonroll9577 3 роки тому +135

      Why does it matter if they do though? She said that and the first thing that came out of my mouth was "what the f**k?" If someone wears pajama pants its not a big deal like what? I wear those and sweats to school all the time cause its way more comfortable then denim jeans? Like I don't get whats the big deal if someone wears PJs?

    • @naomif9964
      @naomif9964 3 роки тому +49

      in university, a lot of us wear sweatpants, but nobody cares. It's comfortable and that way you can concentrate on learning right? But it's different because everyone's grown up and nobody cares how other people look

    • @shannonwilliams295
      @shannonwilliams295 3 роки тому +30

      The girl that talked about the pj pants is a damn Karen in the making, it had nothing to do with here but of course she doesn’t like it so everyone has to stop doing it. 🙃🙃🙃

  • @dragonfireartstudios8051
    @dragonfireartstudios8051 5 років тому +611

    May I ask, how do the TINY runs in my jeans distract my classmates? Or how about the fact that I have my 1st AND 2nd second lobes pierced? How is that a problem! And yet, my bright blue hair is not distracting? LOGIC!

    • @scarletletter4900
      @scarletletter4900 5 років тому +5

      You might like reading this www.newyorker.com/culture/culture-desk/the-unquestioned-goodness-of-school-uniforms

    • @Gymnastics-vl3js
      @Gymnastics-vl3js 4 роки тому +18

      At my middle school we’re allowed to have at least three piercings but none on the face

    • @JadoreKenia
      @JadoreKenia 4 роки тому +28

      Wtf you're so lucky, I have pink bangs right now and I got dress coded but also ran out of black hair dye so I can't dye my hair back and I am hella angry. Like, how the fuck is pink hair distracting. I don't know what to do :(

    • @Ray_the_racoon
      @Ray_the_racoon 3 роки тому +24

      teahcer: YoUR JeAnS ARe DiSTrActIng
      me: well why are you looking at my legs well im sitting at a desk jsut trying to do my work

    • @MWHAAHHAHA
      @MWHAAHHAHA 3 роки тому

      @@scarletletter4900 this doesn't even help

  • @undead_casp3r
    @undead_casp3r 3 роки тому +491

    At my school, if a girl has ripped jeans with rips on their thighs, they have to put duck tape on it to “hide it”. The duck tape is literally more distracting then seeing 3 inches of skin.

    • @vanpet13
      @vanpet13 3 роки тому +34

      i would look why She Has duck tape on the pants

    • @der-lii7051
      @der-lii7051 3 роки тому +6

      True

    • @vanpet13
      @vanpet13 3 роки тому +22

      Boy wears shorts. Teacher:nah 😑. Girl wears shorts. Teacher: 😠😡

    • @stantwiceforgoodgrades3962
      @stantwiceforgoodgrades3962 2 роки тому +1

      wait isn't duck tape bad for your skin?

    • @weezr_
      @weezr_ 2 роки тому +1

      For real and they use neon pink tape

  • @askannaon9764
    @askannaon9764 5 років тому +588

    Here in Germany your ordinary school doesn't have any rules on clothes and people don't run around in pajamas or bikinis
    so in my opinion there is very little need in those rules
    beyond that, it's not like (for example) jeans ripped on the knees are the cause for much distractions
    i personally can't see these pros in dress codes

    • @karellen00
      @karellen00 5 років тому +32

      Same here in Italy, but probably it's just that in the old Europe we have a different way to dress that has less extremes, so a written dress code is not really needed. In my opinion also it's better as it works here: if you wear something inappropriate simply one teacher will probably tell you and it stops there, the next day you'll think better what to wear at least to avoid the shame of being criticized in public. On the contrary when you have rules so strict that you can't even wear ripped jeans a girl that goes to school in bikini will simply think to be on the right side and that the rules are too strict as also the one with the highest grades was left out because of a pair of jeans.
      Funny thing is that here boys are generally more discriminated than girls, as there is a non written code that you should at least wear something with short sleeves, and on the last days of school in June being so hot a lot of students tries to wear the least they can!

    • @AboveTheNoise
      @AboveTheNoise  5 років тому +58

      @@karellen00 Interesting that boys have more issues than girls in your schools there. We saw some issues for boys (sagging jeans, do-rags, ripped jeans, hats, gang-affiliated colors, etc.) but the biggest focus definitely seems to be on young women and how much of their bodies are visible or presented in a way that schools deem inappropriate. There is a big backlash from young women who feel that this focus is unfair and ironically ends up over-sexualizing young female bodies.

    • @karellen00
      @karellen00 5 років тому +22

      ​@@AboveTheNoise Probably the reason of that is that girls here generally never dress with too little clothing, and what they consider proper to wear at school is also what is generally considered ok by everyone, teachers included. Either that or we are used to girls with such clothing, it's possible that a girl dressed normally for summer here would be left out of school in the States!
      Generally are guys who gets informal warnings when it's really hot in summer because they wear those kind of shirts without sleeves (like those used for basket). There is also a combination of boys being generally more likely to break the rules, and also they lack the fear of exposing too much (who wants to see a guy's tits?). As you can see it's just a matter of minimum elegance more than some kind of sexual discrimination, and personally the most rigid punishment I have ever seen was probably a teacher saying "if the principal sees you dressed like that!", but that ends there! Not something that happens every day anyway!

    • @karalapse
      @karalapse 5 років тому +5

      The dress codes i have is tank top straps have to 2 fingers wide and no hats no sagging (even tho lots of boys get away with it)

    • @thefishingposts1625
      @thefishingposts1625 5 років тому +6

      Ah... Germany is Great!

  • @lunarsky229
    @lunarsky229 5 років тому +300

    At my school teachers care but girls carry their phones in their back pockets because if they get caught they can say the teacher looking at their butt

    • @madalynburke4749
      @madalynburke4749 3 роки тому +28

      big brain

    • @scrunchytoes
      @scrunchytoes 3 роки тому +12

      the vice principal of my old middle school once yelled at me bc i was texting my mom in the hallway. i told him who it was and said he didnt care and to put it away ._.

    • @aaurraa444
      @aaurraa444 3 роки тому +3

      Lmao 😂

    • @silkfeatherrr4424
      @silkfeatherrr4424 3 роки тому

      our school has a policy where you cant have your phone showing so they put it in the front of their pants and cover it with their shirt

  • @jukebox_draws
    @jukebox_draws 5 років тому +3997

    Guy: *wears a muscle shirt*
    Principal: 👍🏻
    Girl: *wears a completely appropriate tank top*
    Principal: >:0

    • @RealDexterMidnight
      @RealDexterMidnight 5 років тому +116

      Girl at my school: where's a tank top
      Teacher: find
      Me: where's a Jurassic World blue the raptor shirt.
      So stop playing vitem
      Teacher:

    • @liv4983
      @liv4983 4 роки тому +76

      I have to wear a uniform but I have been wearing the same damn thing for 8 years!!! It’s extremely annoying, why do i have clothes if i can’t wear them!?

    • @londynsworld4657
      @londynsworld4657 4 роки тому +11

      Amen

    • @zarat9419
      @zarat9419 4 роки тому +26

      It's society
      But no hate to any gender because this happens to boys to!

    • @bravebarons677
      @bravebarons677 4 роки тому +8

      The principal be like fudge of u poosy

  • @jasmynegeorget
    @jasmynegeorget 5 років тому +408

    The other day this boy was wearing a tank top and i was waiting for the teacher to tell him to get a jacket on or go home and change because thats what i was used to but he didnt get told anything about covering up, so i decided to wear a tank top the next day to just experiment my school dress code and i immedidently was told to get a jacket on or else leave the school to change like really... girls dont get the chance like boys do

    • @AboveTheNoise
      @AboveTheNoise  5 років тому +107

      Jazzy Maria that’s what we heard from most of the girls we interviewed for this video - they felt that dress codes come down a lot harder on girls and that this is an unfair double standard.

    • @jasmynegeorget
      @jasmynegeorget 5 років тому +18

      Above The Noise glad im not the only one saying this btw thx for replying

    • @rilleygriffin
      @rilleygriffin 5 років тому +21

      it’s totally unfair. don’t let it get to you ♥️

    • @nicolelundell5880
      @nicolelundell5880 5 років тому +15

      That's why I hate dress codes they are never fair and overreacts WAY too much (depends what school you going in). Like why do they care so much about what we are wearing is it really that hard to control themself or respect other people’s style. I'm happy We don't have that here in Sweden.

    • @madalynburke4749
      @madalynburke4749 3 роки тому +1

      ikr

  • @alarcon99
    @alarcon99 5 років тому +831

    As a mother, I wish there was more I could do to fight these biased dress codes

    • @AboveTheNoise
      @AboveTheNoise  5 років тому +108

      alarcon99 In the case of the students in Alameda they said their parents got involved too. They wrote letters and brought the issue up in school meetings. Some parents took their daughters to common stores and did an inventory of how many articles of clothing there were that actually fit the dress code- and they found there weren’t that many items available

    • @esteban_osman
      @esteban_osman 4 роки тому +20

      If you are an american, you can do something about it. You don't ha e to be patriotic, but you do have the power to change the districts as a citizen

    • @ihopeicanchangethisnamelat7108
      @ihopeicanchangethisnamelat7108 3 роки тому +25

      Just wear whatever your kids were punished for wearing to any and all parent-teacher meetings 🤷‍♀️

    • @savagefromtheraq
      @savagefromtheraq 2 роки тому

      @@ihopeicanchangethisnamelat7108 showing skin to grab male attention is what they are trying to avoid 💀

    • @opinion1625
      @opinion1625 Рік тому

      Just let your daughter wear whatever she wants, do whatever she wants, let her be free and deal with the consequences of her wrong choices

  • @orsettomorbido
    @orsettomorbido 5 років тому +212

    'Hey, that's the school where they're allowed to show their SHOULDERS'
    'Yeah, they are also the school with the better grades and teachers in the entire galaxy'
    BUT SHOULDERS

    • @SylviaRustyFae
      @SylviaRustyFae 5 років тому +13

      Yet again... Preparing them for the real world where shitty retail jobs are just as fearful of shoulders 9.9
      Such nonsense.

  • @Variane-zg3lr
    @Variane-zg3lr 3 роки тому +286

    I was sent home for wearing a “grey jeans”, apparently my school only allows “blue jeans”. Seriously, who even notices this?! How does the color of my jeans affect my education? I hate strict dress codes, I understand that it’s good to regulate things like offensive or inappropriate clothing, but it frequently goes to far.

    • @vanpet13
      @vanpet13 3 роки тому +40

      What teachers thinks somene do: oOooO look ať that gReY ColOr 😏

    • @ahassett37
      @ahassett37 3 роки тому +2

      Wtaf-

    • @Lavealikesreading
      @Lavealikesreading 3 роки тому +9

      I don't have any blue jeans... they're all black/grey

    • @ninthcrusader2355
      @ninthcrusader2355 3 роки тому +3

      Me a private school kid with formal uniform and crew cut being amused when people complain about dress codes.

    • @silkfeatherrr4424
      @silkfeatherrr4424 3 роки тому +4

      my spanish teacher wont stop making a big deal about whether someones sweatshirt or jeans are black
      ITS A COLOR
      JUST LIKE GRAY

  • @K_16.C
    @K_16.C 4 роки тому +1384

    Boy’s dress code:
    Just don’t wear caps/hoods
    Don’t wear pajamas
    Girls dress code:
    No shoulders exposed
    No exposed stomachs
    No face piercings
    No skin showing above the knee
    No rips in jeans
    No short shorts
    Tank tops need to have a 3 finger strap
    No spaghetti straps
    No hair color other than natural colors.
    Girls have it harder. End of story.

    • @patriciamollison3635
      @patriciamollison3635 3 роки тому +33

      Exactly

    • @vanmitchell846
      @vanmitchell846 3 роки тому +17

      Yeah

    • @bunna6627
      @bunna6627 3 роки тому +67

      They have it harder but it’s not like boys don’t have anything bad.

    • @AaZone.
      @AaZone. 3 роки тому +51

      We both have it hard

    • @AaZone.
      @AaZone. 3 роки тому +86

      I hate when girls pretend boys have a peaceful life with 0 problems and they are so stressed we both have it hard

  • @SylviaRustyFae
    @SylviaRustyFae 5 років тому +234

    As a trans woman I have experienced a lot of hate for wearing short skirts at work, with me being pulled out of work quite often to get a talking to about how some customer thought my skirt was too short. They then measure the distance to knee, remind me of the rules, and send me on my way as my skirt isn't too short.
    This takes from 10-20 mins and happens every other week or so. No one seems to ever have issues with the other girls that wear short skirts nor do they complain about the half dozen other dress code violations going on elsewhere.
    So, I'm very much against dress codes because they are almost always discriminatory in their usage. No one is actually unable to shop at my store because my knees are showing. Just like in schools.
    However, if my experience at work is the norm then maybe wasting these kid's time taking them out of class to complain about dress code violations is preparing them for the real (discriminatory) world.

    • @AboveTheNoise
      @AboveTheNoise  5 років тому +18

      Rusty Recommends thanks for watching and sharing your experience.

  • @callous_cloud4780
    @callous_cloud4780 3 роки тому +92

    For some reason in my school, guys can’t wear earrings. Girls can, just not boys for some reason

    • @ad-skyobsidion4267
      @ad-skyobsidion4267 3 роки тому +2

      isn't that a normal rule?

    • @sleep.starvedd
      @sleep.starvedd 3 роки тому +31

      @@ad-skyobsidion4267 no???

    • @sleep.starvedd
      @sleep.starvedd 3 роки тому +3

      Also oh my god a fellow WoF fan!

    • @trailhead8133
      @trailhead8133 3 роки тому +4

      @@sleep.starvedd Wall of Flesh?!?!

    • @orathearsonman
      @orathearsonman 3 роки тому +1

      @@trailhead8133 that's literally the same thought process I had-
      i think i might play too much Terraria

  • @maishabroski6066
    @maishabroski6066 3 роки тому +75

    Bro, if you normalize self-expression through clothing, it won’t really distract anyone because it’s become so normal that it’s just another thing you see everyday.

  • @Pear1a
    @Pear1a 3 роки тому +149

    Teacher: change you’re pants you can’t wear ripped jeans.
    Students: oh yeah who go’s like: OOooh LOOk AT THOSE HOT KNEECAPS. I don’t think so

    • @trailhead8133
      @trailhead8133 3 роки тому +16

      Awooga * froths at mouth I-is that a shoulder strlarts heaving breathing

    • @holly205
      @holly205 3 роки тому +16

      IM WHEEZING
      they seriously think boys look at girls like
      “DaYuMmM you see them hot knees???”
      “Yeah man but have you seen her shOULDERS???!1!1!1!1”

    • @crowsan2871
      @crowsan2871 3 роки тому +8

      Why do schools don’t let us show ripped jeans that show our knees, but they let us wear shorts that show our whole leg? (This is stolen from Tiktok btw)

  • @lanumoli6949
    @lanumoli6949 5 років тому +77

    just wanna vent real quick! my school recently started undergoing lots of changes. like, literally everything changed. even the dress codes. it's been two days since school started and i've already gotten dress-coded twice. by the same teacher. honestly... if anything, i was showing a little midrift(from rushing to get to class). just frustrates me because i had my sweater on both times. second day, i was trying to be more careful. still got flagged down and yelled at. i'm in middle school! no other teachers cared, even when i took my sweater off! welp-

    • @yourfav904
      @yourfav904 3 роки тому +13

      you're teacher is probably a creep, i had a teacher like him, i would just try to report him honestly

    • @ARCHIVED9610
      @ARCHIVED9610 3 роки тому

      your teacher seems very annoying, im sorry about that. i hope it got better!

  • @JamesConollyLives5353
    @JamesConollyLives5353 5 років тому +513

    In Australia we have something called a school uniform that everyone has to wear. Also second!

    • @AboveTheNoise
      @AboveTheNoise  5 років тому +48

      Yeah, we were surprised to learn how controversial school uniforms are in high school. Here is an article that gets into one side of that debate: www.newyorker.com/culture/culture-desk/the-unquestioned-goodness-of-school-uniforms

    • @Sivah_Akash
      @Sivah_Akash 5 років тому +42

      I'd to wear a Uniform for my entire schooling. It didn't seem weird or anything!
      People say here that it is done so that everyone is shown as being equal, which is right if you think about it. You wouldn't want a rich kid flashing off in front of someone who doesn't have that opportunity. But this won't be such a problem in developed countries, since children in a particular school are most probably of a similar class of society.
      The bigger problem I see here is that the rules seem to be perfect but it's just that different staff understand them in a different way and hence enforce them in a way they personally feel is right!
      Before I watched this video, I only had a vague idea of the topic and I didn't understand why girls are fighting for covering themselves in torn and short dresses. Seems like it is because of them being discriminated against boys and also because of a few incidents where a kid is caught even for dressing properly.
      PS: I may have got something wrong here. 😄

    • @JamesConollyLives5353
      @JamesConollyLives5353 5 років тому +15

      @@Sivah_Akash my school has a formal and a "sports" (polyester/cotton light and breathable stuff) uniform (both are t-shirts) and they dont care which one you wear, the only rules are navy blue pants/shorts/jeans/skirt. You cant have ripped jeans or short shorts/skirts but thats just being decent.
      The issue I see is when schools (especialy Australian public schools) drive up the cost of uniforms so childeren of lower income parents/guardians cant afford new uniforms whilst their child is going through growth spurts. My school also wont let you wear branded clothing and that can be hard when everything seem to be branded or have a design on them these days.

    • @Sivah_Akash
      @Sivah_Akash 5 років тому +4

      @@JamesConollyLives5353, my Uniform was designed by my school! So everyone same Uniform everyday(other than Friday).

    • @JamesConollyLives5353
      @JamesConollyLives5353 5 років тому +3

      @@Sivah_Akash ours was chosen by the parents and carers committee, our old logo was designed by the school, the new one... we dont talk about it (it looks like a pool logo). We have "Free dress days" where you donate a gold coin (1 or 2 dollars) in return for being able to wear no uniform, as long as "you cant see up it, down it or through it." That is mainly to stop girls from wearing revealing clothes.

  • @chillgilli3200
    @chillgilli3200 3 роки тому +46

    They say that the clothes can disrupt our education but pulling us out of class and stopping us from work actually disrupt us even more...

  • @peaches32
    @peaches32 4 роки тому +86

    School really got me self conscious about my shoulders 😭😭😭

    • @madalynburke4749
      @madalynburke4749 3 роки тому +1

      lol

    • @pogget5523
      @pogget5523 3 роки тому +8

      It's not funny, people are actually loosing self confidence from this :(

    • @ARCHIVED9610
      @ARCHIVED9610 3 роки тому +4

      @@pogget5523 im an unfortunate example, im scared of even wearing my hoodie with a smile on it because i dont know if i’ll be judged or told to take it off even though i spent around 40-50 dollars on it!

  • @TDrillz
    @TDrillz 4 роки тому +123

    Guy: *wears nothing*
    Principle: that’s alright
    Girl: *wears school appropriate clothing*
    Principle: wtf!!
    This isn’t original

  • @AUGGHAHAHA
    @AUGGHAHAHA 4 роки тому +70

    What guy looks at a girl and thinks: dang her shoulders look fine

    • @bunna6627
      @bunna6627 3 роки тому +4

      ikr

    • @---pj1xz
      @---pj1xz 3 роки тому +8

      Guy looks at girl with ripped jeans : "Dang, her knees look fine"

    • @purpel6034
      @purpel6034 2 роки тому

      Dang those skin cells look fine

  • @sybellegoff5356
    @sybellegoff5356 4 роки тому +57

    My school allows jeans with rips as long as they are below the knee
    I’m pretty sure that doesn’t exist

    • @ihopeicanchangethisnamelat7108
      @ihopeicanchangethisnamelat7108 3 роки тому +4

      clearly they want you to borrow their jeans and a pair of scissors and do a little chopping up of the knees

  • @maddyben33
    @maddyben33 5 років тому +45

    I wore ripped jeans where the rips came up to my lower thigh with LEGGINGS underneath them and I still got dress coded

    • @crazywarlock6278
      @crazywarlock6278 3 роки тому +3

      I wore short shorts with leggings underneath them and I got dresscoded. I feel you ;-;

  • @_mm___
    @_mm___ 3 роки тому +56

    Schools when you have ripped jeans: That's innapropriate! Go change now!
    Schools when they see someone with a skirt: Oh, that's fine! As long as it's not too short!

    • @HG-bp8lh
      @HG-bp8lh 3 роки тому

      whats wrong with a skirt

    • @_mm___
      @_mm___ 3 роки тому +4

      @@HG-bp8lh I'm saaying that people who have ripped jeans don't really show their lehs, but they get dress coded, but people who wear skirts, that show your legs more than ripped jeans, don''t get dress coded.

  • @imanepink
    @imanepink 4 роки тому +72

    When you can't even wear:
    Hoodies
    Jeans
    Denim
    Trainers
    Etc

    • @nithidesikan6458
      @nithidesikan6458 3 роки тому +14

      Well there goes my entire closet

    • @sleep.starvedd
      @sleep.starvedd 3 роки тому +3

      @@nithidesikan6458 oh my god same :0

    • @mimi-milkymulti_fandoms6735
      @mimi-milkymulti_fandoms6735 3 роки тому +1

      In my school it's authorized to wearing jeans and hoodies

    • @coralline1984
      @coralline1984 3 роки тому +1

      My school allows hoodies, jeans and denim.

    • @imanepink
      @imanepink 3 роки тому

      @@sleep.starvedd that's the UK for you hence why I get annoyed when I see Americans complain about their dress code.

  • @GoesByJ
    @GoesByJ 5 років тому +36

    My uniform makes me feel less of a human. I also feel uncomfortable and stressed about it. It distracts me so much. I’ll always worried about it.

    • @ad-skyobsidion4267
      @ad-skyobsidion4267 3 роки тому +1

      the only things I don't like about my uniform if that my house tie is the same colour as our school tie and the blazer is navy

    • @ninthcrusader2355
      @ninthcrusader2355 3 роки тому +1

      Uniforms are cool.

  • @avia4933
    @avia4933 3 роки тому +34

    Everyone here complaining how they can’t wear ripped jeans WHILE MY SCHOOL HAVES US WEAR SOLID COLOR POLOS AND ONLY LONG PANTS

  • @RandomPerson-gb6wh
    @RandomPerson-gb6wh 3 роки тому +21

    ‘When do school dress codes go too far?’
    When I’m expected to wear a blazer and tie everyday, even in the middle of summer when its way too hot

  • @jaduvadkan9321
    @jaduvadkan9321 5 років тому +90

    Because I live in Sweden, we don’t have any dress codes we can we’re whatever we want and nobody is saying nothing😁😊

    • @lillysabeeh2369
      @lillysabeeh2369 4 роки тому +13

      I live in Sweden too , I really just think dress codes are messed up. Like it's an insult to guys too because you're basically telling them that they can't control themselves.

    • @ekarreste
      @ekarreste 4 роки тому +1

      North Europe haha, same in Latvia

    • @luisemarth6851
      @luisemarth6851 3 роки тому +6

      Yeah I live in Berlin and a boy in my class took of his shirt and nobody said nothing because like it’s just a body and everybody has a body no one gets distracted from learning by some ShoUldErS or kNeEs or something like that .
      You can wear what you want! It is so cool

    • @bunna6627
      @bunna6627 3 роки тому +4

      @@luisemarth6851 same in my school no one really cares but if your showing too much skin you usually get talked to but it’s nothing too crazy

    • @madalynburke4749
      @madalynburke4749 3 роки тому +2

      I WISH

  • @riley7789
    @riley7789 3 роки тому +20

    i feel like my school also like body-shames lowkey. these skinny girls could wear super short shorts but i wore shorts just above my knee and got told i could never wear them again.

    • @airea_ameal
      @airea_ameal 3 роки тому +2

      I personally think shorts looks nice on girls who are a little plump but if somebody's getting distracted over it then its their own damn fault.
      You should report and call them out on social media whoever told you to not wear shorts.

  • @tsudorokifujisaki9777
    @tsudorokifujisaki9777 4 роки тому +13

    My gym teachers are crazy. They don’t even allow girls to wear tank tops into the gym, and when I asked them why, they said it was easier if everyone wore t-shirts. How the hell does that even make sense? Boys can wear tank tops and they don’t care, but if I wear a dress with spaghetti straps but still has a “modest” collar I get kicked out? They also care if you’re wearing a bra. If they can tell you’re not wearing a bra, they kick you out with the girls who wear those oh-so-scandalous tank tops.

  • @alyssab3411
    @alyssab3411 5 років тому +68

    In my school we have uniforms but it's really uncomfortable because it's very hot out and our skirts are very long

    • @mrmofo2215
      @mrmofo2215 5 років тому +2

      Lol Malaysia?

    • @alyssab3411
      @alyssab3411 5 років тому +3

      @@mrmofo2215 nah the Caribbean

    • @AboveTheNoise
      @AboveTheNoise  5 років тому +11

      @@alyssab3411 that just seems cruel! Lol.

    • @alyssab3411
      @alyssab3411 5 років тому +2

      @@AboveTheNoise It's an all girls school and they get mad of they see our knees

    • @alyssab3411
      @alyssab3411 5 років тому

      @V_0_l_c_a_n_0 2000 I feel you, like why do I have to suffer? We can't even do our hair,have key chains, wear bracelets or colored bags

  • @flymypg
    @flymypg 5 років тому +25

    When I was between jobs last year, I volunteered 400 hours tutoring algebra (and other things) at a local "continuation" high school that was focused on students who were, in various ways, "failed" by regular schools. This meant small class sizes and lots of 1-on-1 attention.
    My first eye-opener was the wide variety of student (and staff) attire. When I attended high school in the early 1970's, we all mainly wore blue jeans and t-shirts, almost as if they were a uniform. The only "violations" were for rips/wear and "polarizing language or images". This was an era when we tried to get around the rules by combining things, such as a favorite T-shirt of mine that said: "Nuke the Bomb".
    My first impressions of these students was through the filter of "appropriateness", for which I soon found my own standards were very outdated. It was mainly overload, I suppose, as I didn't previously interact with many of high school age. We were from different sub-cultures, separated by more than just time.
    When I read the school's half-page dress code, it primarily listed minimum standards attire should meet, rather than being a list of banned items. I was surprised to see simple language discussing exposure of skin or things like nipples or crotch bulges (the only part even mentioning gender). The limitations on jewelry were equally simple, to not be harmful to one's self or others (the school nurse added that one, after seeing way too many body parts being damaged by hardware getting yanked out).
    Within weeks I began to see the student's language of style. Some wanted to be invisible (for various reasons, many positive), others wanted to stand out (to not be invisible), though most simply wanted to express or define themselves through their appearance. I soon found many efforts were experimental in nature, students trying things to see how they felt and how others perceived them, very much like trying to create a new "language" for one's self that your friends and peers would still understand.
    I remember when a "jock" I was tutoring once came in with his nails done (French nails). I really didn't know what his message was, nor did I really care since it clearly wasn't aimed at me. But I did care that he was expressing himself. When I positively commented about the change ("that's a great nail job"), he simultaneously blushed and grinned with pride. Then all his peers gathered round, thoroughly disrupting class, asking all the questions I was also curious about.
    There was also one woman student who always dressed in the most stylish yet formally sexy way possible, such as by wearing sheath dresses. It took me over a month to understand the path she was forging for herself, to "look good" with grace and style, without being tacky or clichéd or over-sexualized. She was gorgeous, and wanted to be seen embracing that while also being far more than "just" her physical attributes.
    Being an older male, I couldn't directly comment on her style, especially given how comments on appearance can correctly be taken as sexual harassment no matter their intent. So instead I tried the opposite, to comment only on her "casual" days. Her response was interesting: "You know you don't need to wear a button-up collar shirt every day, right?"
    I dug deep into my curated collection of tie-died T-shirts and wore one the next day. The student reactions were beyond awesome. I mentioned the student who encouraged me to try something different, and she had 15 minutes of mocking yet kind fame as a "style consultant". Great fun all around, and it brought me closer to the students. Or, more accurately, they moved closer to me.
    Dress codes are important, but only below the point where they would impact personal style. Set the minimum, and see what grows and flourishes above.

    • @SylviaRustyFae
      @SylviaRustyFae 5 років тому +2

      Does nuke the bomb effectively mean fuck the war?

    • @SylviaRustyFae
      @SylviaRustyFae 5 років тому +3

      Also, both those kids sound straight up awesome and the first reminds me of a story of a fellow Amtgarder.
      He talked about having painted the nails of several members of the football team while he was in school a couple decades ago. Jocks can be just as down for looking good as anyone else and nails don't need to be naked just cause you're a man.

    • @shelbylynn9
      @shelbylynn9 2 роки тому

      This was a really great perspective. I appreciate your perceptiveness and your interpretation of what those things meant, not just to the person, but to their audience. Thanks for sharing it. I wish every teacher shared your viewpoint and was this insightful into the behavior and choices of their students.

  • @Jskid666
    @Jskid666 5 років тому +24

    Never had dress codes when I was in school. Not even once did I see someone naked, in PJ's or other crazy apparel.
    Sure, write a few lines in the school code about students not being able to be naked or wearing offensive or discriminatory things on their clothes! Anything more than that is, however, completely unnecessary and not beneficial to students' daily life.

    • @AboveTheNoise
      @AboveTheNoise  5 років тому +3

      Thanks for sharing your perspective (and watching!)

    • @scarletletter4900
      @scarletletter4900 5 років тому

      Dude, what you just described is a dress code

    • @Jskid666
      @Jskid666 5 років тому +6

      @@scarletletter4900 dude, a dress code goes into specifics. How many layers, which areas can be exposed, underwear showing, skirt or shorts length, etc. What I just described is just an "appeal to common sense". My point is that anything short of such appeal is unimportant and, in my experience, has never been meaningfully challenged.
      Saying "wear clothes" and "no hateful symbols" does not a dress code make.

    • @scarletletter4900
      @scarletletter4900 5 років тому

      @@Jskid666 did you read this in you student rights and responsibilities handbook? If so, then that was indeed a dress code. It just so happens that the dress code you described is refreshingly very simple. Dress codes need not be complex to function as such.

    • @Jskid666
      @Jskid666 5 років тому +2

      @@scarletletter4900 sure... We can argue semantics all we want. I could tell you that where I'm from, schools that had a dress code had it as a separate document to the "main" school code. Needless to say, that last one was where those common sense rules I referenced in the previous comment were written.
      But the video makes the points for dress codes as specific and often overly strict (and discriminatory) rules about apparel. If you're stuck because "wear clothes" is technically a dress code, you're obviously missing the point that's being made here.

  • @thefishingposts1625
    @thefishingposts1625 5 років тому +19

    What my school says is a nOpE:
    No tank tops
    No inappropriate shirts/jeans
    Nothing that shows gang signs, bullying, inappropriate things, etc.
    Ripped jeans must be at your knee or lower (nothing at your thighs or above)
    Nothing show bra straps or undergarments
    No shorts that show you thighs or above
    Do not wear pajamas
    No crop tops
    Jewelry must be appropriate
    (That is all I remember)

    • @deborahmiller7562
      @deborahmiller7562 5 років тому

      Same

    • @wishcandle7801
      @wishcandle7801 5 років тому

      Wow your allowed to wear ripped jeans .. were not at all

    • @JadoreKenia
      @JadoreKenia 4 роки тому +1

      What about dyed hair, I have pink bangs right now and I got dress coded but also ran out of black hair dye so I can't dye my hair back and I am hella angry. Like, how the fuck is pink hair distracting

    • @DG-kf9wm
      @DG-kf9wm 4 роки тому

      That’s wack

    • @ihopeicanchangethisnamelat7108
      @ihopeicanchangethisnamelat7108 3 роки тому

      That’s fair. I would describe my uniform but you’ve probably seen me in the rest of the comments complaining about it.

  • @eclipz2193
    @eclipz2193 3 роки тому +16

    My sister, best friend (they were in the same class), and I decided to wear cute necklaces and bracelets to school (because we were 10 and why not). Later that day teachers came up to my sister and best friend and told them they were violating school dress code and policy because they wore PLASTIC PEARLS on their neck and body. Thankfully I didn’t get dress coded but come on, it’s not worth getting mad at 2 ten year olds for wearing fake pearls on them.

  • @gloria9424
    @gloria9424 3 роки тому +14

    If children’s bare skin distracts you, you should not be working with children

  • @dogcarthemusical7203
    @dogcarthemusical7203 3 роки тому +24

    Being a dude I feel bad because of how I’ve worn torn jeans and no one said nothin
    I will say however that my hair was “too long” and had to get it cut witch is strange because the girls get long hair but the boys don’t?
    Why can’t I have long hair? I think no one is being “targeted” but it certainly isn’t fair about what we can wear or how our hair looks
    TL;DR I got to keep my luscious locks because of pushback from my friend group. Keepin it real since 2006.

    • @ninthcrusader2355
      @ninthcrusader2355 3 роки тому +1

      Bruh, my male classmate once had long hair and the PE teacher got his parent’s permission and got a barber to give him a very short haircut

    • @purpel6034
      @purpel6034 2 роки тому

      Bro I got a haircut IN school.

    • @3DInnovations70
      @3DInnovations70 2 роки тому

      I got long hair and nobody said nothing

  • @lmnop6947
    @lmnop6947 5 років тому +45

    When my shirt lifted LESS THAN ONE INCH up (you could see some of my skin) I had to call my dad for him to bring me another shirt -(Also on picture day fml)-

  • @angelasharp3939
    @angelasharp3939 3 роки тому +16

    Boys at my school dont get in trouble for wearing shorts, but oh god save us all if a girls Jean's are ripped from the knee up, it's so bad half the girls at my school keep duct tape on them all the time so others can put tape over there jeans

  • @Ava_theNUGGET
    @Ava_theNUGGET 3 роки тому +17

    I live in Florida they don’t allow us to wear tank tops on hot days Yet the teacher shows up in a tank top and it’s all fine!

  • @silly_serj
    @silly_serj 3 роки тому +12

    In middle school I got dress coded for wearing an oversized t-shirt and shorts (I’m a female) while my male class mate had a backpack with Mickey Mouse holding up the middle finger. I’m disappointed.

  • @annaobrien7323
    @annaobrien7323 3 роки тому +10

    Unnecessary (in my opinion) things in my dress code:
    •uniforms
    •required to wear belt with shorts/pants
    •no hood over head inside
    •no ripped jeans
    •no sweatpants
    •must wear bottoms over leggings
    •boys cannot have hair that goes past their shoulders
    •idk, I think there’s a rule that says no dreads
    •hair must be natural color

    • @annaobrien7323
      @annaobrien7323 3 роки тому

      @Seedless Wa

    • @KeepCalmContemplateYourChoices
      @KeepCalmContemplateYourChoices 3 роки тому

      I go to a school that just requires uniforms. It's all navy blue and white shirts. But then the skirts reach above the knees, and no one bats an eye.

    • @annaobrien7323
      @annaobrien7323 3 роки тому

      @@KeepCalmContemplateYourChoices There’s this girl at my school that is always on the edge for dress code violation because of the length of her skirt. She says if she went a size up, it would fall off her. Not to mention her home room teacher is very strict.

    • @naz2091
      @naz2091 3 роки тому

      omg y’all’s schools don’t let you wear sweatpants? jeez-

    • @annaobrien7323
      @annaobrien7323 3 роки тому

      @@naz2091 It’s so weird, right? Guess they just want us to be barely formal enough for casual school attire.

  • @supimpanda2312
    @supimpanda2312 3 роки тому +8

    My school in Illinois not only targets the girls (letting the guys wear ripped Jeans and tank tops but not the girls) but, also more curvy people like when my skinnier friend and I wore an outfit for twin day. Only I got dress coded and we were literally walking together and dressed the exact same but this male teacher pulled only me aside and told me it was inappropriate. I was so so angry

  • @milahancock6405
    @milahancock6405 3 роки тому +28

    I hate it when schools don’t allow kids to have their hoods from their hoodie jackets on their heads

    • @ARCHIVED9610
      @ARCHIVED9610 3 роки тому +1

      like whats the point..? i wanna hide in my hoodie and for some reason it applies in 6th grade. i dont think anyone is hiding anything in their hoodie.

    • @milahancock6405
      @milahancock6405 3 роки тому

      @@ARCHIVED9610 right?? Same thing with hats

    • @ARCHIVED9610
      @ARCHIVED9610 3 роки тому +1

      @@milahancock6405 oh my godddd i love hats. ones with fluffy fabric or feathers are so fun to wear. i havent worn one in a year unfortunately

    • @milahancock6405
      @milahancock6405 3 роки тому

      @@ARCHIVED9610 sweet! I mostly like to wear beanies or baseball caps

    • @scrunchytoes
      @scrunchytoes 3 роки тому +1

      @@milahancock6405 like what do they think we're gonna hide in our beanies?? drugs??

  • @viupcake8062
    @viupcake8062 3 роки тому +10

    I got dress coded once for wearing a turtleneck sweater because it was "too tight around my chest". First of all, pretty much every shirt is tight around my chest, seeing as I have triple d's. Second of all, I got dress coded the next day for wearing a baggy t-shirt to hide my chest since I got in trouble the day before. We just can't win.

  • @connecticutaggie
    @connecticutaggie 5 років тому +37

    1)The High School years are a time where people begin to want to demonstrate their independence from Adults (often seen as rebellion and sometimes it is). It has always been this way and it will always be this way. Also, every generation' style of music and clothes changes. This is more often a style preference not a moral abdication.
    2) In contrast to this, Adults still feel (and often legally are) responsible for the safety of these under-age people. At some point the independence can be seen as a challenge to the authority these Adults need (or feel they need) to do their job and/or fulfill their responsibilities. This is not like A Bug's Life ants v grasshoppers thing; but in in some ways. In schools, the students do outnumber the Adults and that can get out of balance so the Adults need some extra authority to balance that out. Also, the Grasshoppers (I mean Adults) are wanting to help the Ants (I mean students) and to keep helping them, they do have other Adults they have to answer to.
    3) It is possible to find a balance between 1 & 2; but, it is highly unlikely that you will ever get 100% buy in; and, once things escalate, the emotions can make seeing and acknowledging the view of the other group VERY difficult. If both groups can find a way to value the other group and their differences offer sincere help (not my way or the highway) then I believe they can work together and find a path that they can be both proud of.

    • @AboveTheNoise
      @AboveTheNoise  5 років тому +2

      We definitely agree that #3 is the goal -- and not an easy one to accomplish. We hope our videos spark much needed conversations between adults and youth about the issues that directly impact young people's lives. And we hope that all of our viewers might gain some critical analysis skills about information that will help them make evidence-based decisions.

    • @connecticutaggie
      @connecticutaggie 5 років тому +2

      ​@@AboveTheNoise Thanks Myles, I really do enjoy your videos. I our current tribal world, your videos feel like well build bridges. We may have been born into different tribes; but, I think we would find what we have more in common is stronger than where we are different. What I was trying to get at in #1 and #2 is that the better path to progress can be found in sincerely listening to, accepting (and hopefully valuing) the other side's view rather than taking the I'm right and you're wrong (or I'm in charge and you're not) (or it's my life not yours) approach. Let me know if you ever come up to Portland.

  • @rroselandd
    @rroselandd 4 роки тому +42

    bruh my ELEMENTARY SCHOOL banned spaghetti straps because they "showed to much skin"
    you are ages 5-11.
    excuse me??

    • @salseradelachuleria
      @salseradelachuleria 3 роки тому +8

      Ah yes, a five year old might have disturbing thoughts if the girl across the room is wearing a spaghetti starp.

    • @arttrash8004
      @arttrash8004 3 роки тому +2

      my school did the same, and girls skirts had to be covering her knees and they had to have no collar bone showing

    • @rroselandd
      @rroselandd 3 роки тому

      @@salseradelachuleria exactly!

  • @_hearts4annabeth
    @_hearts4annabeth 3 роки тому +11

    I wore a dress to school with high socks, up to my thighs. I looked like a school-girl. I was leaving my tech class and I was warned about it, not bc of a bag running it up, just because I was wearing it. That was the last time I wore a dress or a skirt in school.

  • @travisphelps3866
    @travisphelps3866 3 роки тому +20

    Me: a trans male who seriously everyone thought was an actual male (which made me super happy)
    Principal: “You’re not allowed to wear that because people might mistake you for a boy, missy!”
    Everyone at school: knows I’m a biological girl now 😭

    • @m_thr
      @m_thr 3 роки тому +10

      i hope that principal knows what a horrible human being he is

    • @purpel6034
      @purpel6034 2 роки тому +1

      @@m_thr how u know its a he

  • @shadowalice748
    @shadowalice748 3 роки тому +8

    I just realized how lucky I am that the only thing at our school that is banned is spaghetti strapped tops/dresses without something covering it

  • @shoom_4283
    @shoom_4283 3 роки тому +10

    Girl:doesn't cover shoulders
    Guys: I CANT FOCUS

  • @kllseg3609
    @kllseg3609 5 років тому +11

    i've got dresscoded only once, when there was a 'concert' and i was singing in the choir, and i was wearing a skirt (because we were told to) which was like two inches above my knees, and i was told to put jeans or something more covering under them

  • @mint_likes_soup
    @mint_likes_soup 3 роки тому +14

    Teachers: *DoNt wEaR RiPpEd jEaNs tHaT ShOw YoUr KnEeCaPs*
    Also teachers: oh yeah you can wear shorts that *show your entire legs*

  • @Raquel-jf4wp
    @Raquel-jf4wp 3 роки тому +14

    Me who had dress code starting kindergarten: 👁👄👁
    Also me watching my teachers wear tank tops: ?👄?

    • @scrunchytoes
      @scrunchytoes 3 роки тому +1

      me, looking at various teachers from kindergarten-10th grade wearing sandals: 😐😑😐

  • @Jest.R
    @Jest.R 3 роки тому +10

    Boys: *Wears only short shorts*
    Schools: “Nah, we’re not gonna dress code them”
    Girl: *Wears a tank top and shorts during the summer on a very hot day*
    Schools: “ HOW DARE YOU THAT IS DISTRACTING TO THE OTHER STUDENTS”
    The other students: ???

  • @orsettomorbido
    @orsettomorbido 5 років тому +15

    Where i live (Italy) there is no such a thing as a dress code, except in elementary school where, in some schools, students should have uniforms to 'be equal' and no one would be biased by their clothing (es: hey, that person has Gucci and that person has their grandma's shirt, so i will treat worse the poor student).
    Of course, they fucked it up gendering things. With white and black uniforms.
    Also, you can still teach how to prepare to dress for the future without making them dressing like small sized adults.
    Last thing. Distracting? You all better work on your attention span, instead of focusing on skin.

    • @AboveTheNoise
      @AboveTheNoise  5 років тому +1

      Thanks for sharing this perspective. Super interesting to learn about how dress codes operate in Italy.

    • @CyberDancerDany
      @CyberDancerDany 5 років тому +1

      orsettomorbido My family is all from Italy and I go to Italy every two years. I told my friends from Italy about the dress code in America and they never been so confused before in their life!!!

    • @tuluppampam
      @tuluppampam 3 роки тому

      @@CyberDancerDany I am Italian and I cannot understand how America can make everything so excessive

  • @f1shstiks
    @f1shstiks 3 роки тому +8

    girl: wears a normal, appropriate outfit
    principal: wait, that's illegal!

  • @saltyagel3880
    @saltyagel3880 5 років тому +25

    Sniff.. I has to wear Navy blue, green, light blue, and white shirts and Navy blue and another colour I donut no... AND THERE ITCHY

    • @essfamilyvlogs530
      @essfamilyvlogs530 5 років тому +1

      THE MAJESTIC BEAR don't worry I dealt with that it sucked but when you adult you can do whatever you like if you have your own business

  • @reedbrooks3887
    @reedbrooks3887 5 років тому +23

    Protesting at my school tomorrow!! Wish me luck

  • @lemonlimeade7270
    @lemonlimeade7270 3 роки тому +10

    "When Do School Dresscodes Fo Too Far?"
    Me: when they exist

  • @calleighmonton8464
    @calleighmonton8464 5 років тому +5

    2 times was I forced to wear my hoodie on hot days. Once when my shirt was to short (came to my waist) with my leggings of the same color the principal had to have been studying my outfit to realize and dress code me. And the second time when I wore a grey kinda muscle shirt that had rips all down the back, and a black "beaten up" cross with gold embezzlements on the front, with an under shirt and jeans... it " showed to much of my back." They act as if someone middle school boys are running around whispering to each other " MMMMM LOOK AT BECKYS BACK KNEES AND SHOULDERS TODAY MMMMM TASTY"

    • @imanepink
      @imanepink 4 роки тому

      At least you get to wear a hoodie in school

  • @NurseKilljoy-h5m
    @NurseKilljoy-h5m 3 роки тому +5

    My school’s dress code is so strict to the point where I’m not gonna be surprised if I get suspended for my skin colour.

    • @theworstgamedev5329
      @theworstgamedev5329 3 роки тому +1

      That sounds like getting rejected from art school 2 times... And we know where that is going...

  • @alyssum_moon
    @alyssum_moon 3 роки тому +3

    i have been scared to death by the dress code/getting in trouble so i’ve never been dress coded but there are many times that girls had to put duct tape over their ripped jeans in the middle of class because it wasn’t allowed, but SO many guys would wear their pants sagging to the point of their boxers showing and no teachers would bat an eye at it despite being banned in the dress code. many schools, including mine, go by the fingertip rule for shorts in which shorts should be at or below fingertip height. this fingertip rule makes some people targeted for having naturally longer limbs, and many people who have curvier body types will get dress coded for tiny offenses. some may argue that this prevents distractions in lessons, but i argue that it sexualizes minors just because their body is viewed as conventionally “attractive”. Keep in mind that all these KIDS are getting dress coded for REVEALING outfits when they are LITERALLY MINORS.

  • @opinion1625
    @opinion1625 Рік тому +5

    It is just disappointing to see how many want to throw away modesty, good manners, and eventually... education

  • @SomeGuyOnYT
    @SomeGuyOnYT 3 роки тому +3

    As someone in the comments once said
    “If teachers are getting distracted by a students clothing you need new teachers”

  • @tripleab8026
    @tripleab8026 4 роки тому +5

    4:27 no, 99.9% of them are trying to make make their day happier by wearing clothes that they feel attractive and positive in (because plenty of them hate school to begin with), not for your attention, smh

    • @ihopeicanchangethisnamelat7108
      @ihopeicanchangethisnamelat7108 3 роки тому +1

      Nah. It’s all about how much you can breathe, have you seen the collars on the shirts we have to wear? I just want to stay alive until the end of school.

  • @danielsatizabal9285
    @danielsatizabal9285 Рік тому +3

    I agree with the notion that school dress code should reflect professional expectations. If you don't dress like that in the workplace, don't dress like at school. Dress however you want when you're off the clock. There's a time and place for that, and you have to know how to separate personal and professional style.

  • @peachyblox3483
    @peachyblox3483 3 роки тому +6

    Sure, dress codes are necessary but when it has something too far or too strict it really just crosses the line.

  • @bryceneal3136
    @bryceneal3136 3 роки тому +1

    The difference between dress code at school and dress code at a job is that is a job you are GETTING PAID TO DRESS THAT WAY.

  • @StarDumb_
    @StarDumb_ 3 роки тому +4

    One time in sixth grade i had wore a dinosaur dress that didnt have sleeves but my shoulders weren't all that exposed cause it had a hood which i didnt wear, (the dress wasnt exposing at all) my science teacher made me put on my sweator because the dress didnt have sleeves. I WASNT DISTRACTING ANYONE!!!

  • @cheyennearnett8534
    @cheyennearnett8534 3 роки тому +3

    My friend had some ripped jeans (nothing above mid thigh, I think) and a tight shirt that showed a *sliver* of skin if she lifted her arms, and even had a jacket on, and told me she was dress coded.
    STAP-

  • @kokokoko3936
    @kokokoko3936 4 роки тому +10

    I’ve had a teacher tell me that kids nowadays “disrespect their teachers,” because they talk back and they’re adults so we shouldn’t talk back. 💀 💀

    • @ihopeicanchangethisnamelat7108
      @ihopeicanchangethisnamelat7108 3 роки тому

      Oh wow, you guys think we shouldn’t talk back to you because you’re humans and that’s rude? What does that make us? Robots? With all the rules about stopping us expressing ourselves, you’re really going the right way to turn us into them.

  • @Broddstein-r7i
    @Broddstein-r7i 3 роки тому +5

    Who goes to class and is like "ah, damn, Timmy's shirt has too many colors."

    • @Userr86849
      @Userr86849 3 роки тому

      At this point school is not about learning anymore it’s supposed to be a learning environment not because how we are dressed what that got to do with anything

  • @threatenedangles
    @threatenedangles 4 роки тому +1

    I was wearing a 3 in-one-ring and got detention for 2 DAYS because the teacher thought it was ‘suggestive’ 🤦🏼‍♀️

  • @emilyelizabeth7062
    @emilyelizabeth7062 4 роки тому +2

    my school doesn’t allow leggings, shorts that are shorter that two inches above the knee, shoulders, any holes in clothes, only BOYS ARE ALLOWED TO WEAR SWEATPANTS?! No midriff, skin hugging clothes and more. The only things girls can wear to school are jeans or boys clothes. it makes no sense,

    • @ihopeicanchangethisnamelat7108
      @ihopeicanchangethisnamelat7108 3 роки тому

      🙄 and meanwhile I hate my school uniform because I’m not allowed to wear trousers as a girl. AT LEAST MAKE IT CONSISTENT.

  • @patchwork_asylum
    @patchwork_asylum 3 роки тому +3

    My school doesnt let us wear coats inside, basically in winter when its raining like we angered the gods we have to put our coats on in the doorway.
    Smh

  • @kyouta2501
    @kyouta2501 3 роки тому +3

    Honestly I think America is one of the only places that have dress codes so insanely severe like these, schools in Canada literally don’t give a shit if you wear something that expresses yourself I think the only rules I’ve ever heard was if you’re gonna wear spaghetti strap make sure you have a sweater with it but if you live in Canada and your school has dress code TELL ME I want to know

  • @dennisslobaton1539
    @dennisslobaton1539 3 роки тому +3

    In the Philippines
    Men: trying to grow a long hair
    Guard/principal: WTF CUT THAT HAIR
    Girls: cutting their hair short
    Guard/principal: it's self expression
    So you're saying that male students doesn't need to express themselves
    Male students :* dyes his hair to blue or red or something else
    Guard/principal: DYE YOUR HAIR BACK TO ITS NORMAL COLOR BECAUSE YOU LOOK LIKE A FOOL
    Female students:*dyes their hair into the colors of the rainbow
    Guard/principal :" you look fantastic, where did you dye your hair? I want to dye my hair too"
    P.s: Those things happened in front of my very eyes so this is not fake, i want to mention the name of my school but that would get me in trouble

  • @mocha1759
    @mocha1759 3 роки тому +2

    Bruh the principal at 5:44 is literally dressed like Dwight schrute and still has the sheer audacity to go on about the dress code

  • @veniecechan174
    @veniecechan174 3 роки тому +2

    I was at a middle school (Gr. 8) camp and there was a welcome dance/party. My friend and I decided to dress up a little bit (with what we had brought to camp). She wore a crop top that showed a slit of her stomach. I wore a tank top and cargo pants.
    We were both dress coded.
    Reasons?
    - My friend showed stomach because she stretched after dancing.
    - I was wearing my windbreaker around my waist and showed my shoulders and bra straps.
    It’s a dance. Everyone dressed up however they could. Crop tops and tanks and tube tops were everywhere, and only a small part of those were dress coded. Like, ffs, it’s a party, everyone’s distracted and everyone’s a little spiced up.

  • @evieknapp9083
    @evieknapp9083 5 років тому +6

    Who else can wear ripped jeans that are very close to your hips but you can’t wear shorts 🙄🙄🙄 today 102 degrees and had to wear jeans

  • @montserratperezmendoza9667
    @montserratperezmendoza9667 3 роки тому +3

    *By having a dress code in schools students are more disciplined and better prepared for life in the work force*
    BUT shouldn't they be educating us so we can make the world a better place that is accepting and inclusive of people's way to express themselves?
    It's like they just want us to learn how to follow orders without even thinking.

  • @grrrgrrrbaddie4609
    @grrrgrrrbaddie4609 3 роки тому +3

    We *cannot* wear ripped jeans
    But we *can* wear shorts that show *%80 more of our legs*

  • @Carolinechandiyangana
    @Carolinechandiyangana 3 місяці тому +1

    I can't wait for the day that adults in schools realized that this whole dress code thing is just their own thoughts and opinions written on a piece of paper.

  • @reginabedgood1799
    @reginabedgood1799 5 років тому +2

    I have learned FAR more in any given semester of college than I learned in high school and I show up everyday in what makes me comfortable. I don't have to waste time worrying about what I am wearing and I can focus on what matters...learning. All of my classmates do the same and whether someone is wearing a cute crop top, sweats and a t-shirt, or a suit, we don't care. Oh and tattoos, piercings, big hair, bright colored hair, etc. is all there and guess what...we STILL LEARN. We recognize that everybody is different and can express themselves how they want to. If anything teaching high school students that everyone deserves respect no matter what they are wearing would be a good life lesson.