To correct you, it will not slam down to the ground when put into float mode, if it does, then you have problems, the fluid is regulated to only allow so much fluid through, I have the same tractor and I can raise my loader all the way up, put it in float and have enough time to get out and walk 20 feet before it touches the ground.
@@kapperoutdoors check yours, lift it up all the way and slam it into float, or part way if you are unsure, if yours is working correctly, it will just drop slowly, when I say slowly, I mean from full height to the ground, it should take 3 to 4 seconds. Edit, if it comes crashing down then your orifice is either missing or blown open.
@@Monkey_Snot That's good info. I guess using the skid steer, which seems like a hard drop, when you engage it, I assumed as much, but I'm sure you are correct! So, I stand corrected! Always learning something new here! thanks, have a good one.
actually i think(idk fs) depends on model mines brand new like 11 hours on it new and it slams to the ground, it still isnt a sudden sudden slam but it touches pretty hard we havent talked to the dealer abt it either tho
my driveway is very similar to yours but not quite as steep and after regrading and adding gravel many times after washouts using my kioti ck30 i brought in some dirt and threw down grass and then hay on top to prevent washout and so far so good. it took awhile but grass is coming up and it holds in place better than just the gravel. nice video. i like your kioti.
Great video thank you so very much I’m trying to move snow and I just bought this bobcat yard tractor it has eight hours on it now I’ve had it two years but I wasn’t aware of that float and moving snow and it’s some heavy snow I didn’t realize I could work so much with that tractor going backwards. thank you so much
Good video and good results. Something to try, especially over deeper ruts, is to load up the bucket with dirt or gravel and backdrag it with a flat bucket. The extra weight will do wonders.
Joe, where I come from, with the bucket flat on the ground, we call that back dragging and when the bucket it tilted on the blade, we call that back blading. Back blading pulls more material back and follows the contures while back draging pulls less but gives a more even finish.
I have the same tractor - it is wonderful. Floating the bucket, I was able to get the ground behind my house very close to grade. I still want a box blade, but if you don't have one, this is a good way to go.
Oh no doubt, you can really do a decent job grading with a tractor loader if you have some practice. But I agree a box blade or plane grader would also be a great addition. Thanks.
When back dragging in reverse, in float mode, the loader weight will help grade uneven spots to make them more even in Float mode, even when there are hills and valleys in the area being graded. A great tool no doubt! Thanks
@@kapperoutdoors I didn't mean anything bad by that. It was meant as a compliment. Kiltchers are a family in Alaska followed by Discovery on their show Alaska the Last Frontier. Otto Kiltcher loves his machines and tinkering on them. You may have seen them. I'm sorry that upset you. 😁👍
@@fralinsandfriends oh heck no you did not upset me I did not mean to relay that! I've watched the kilchers many times and have enjoyed their show. No worries here, good to have you onboard I understand what you were saying no problem. Thank you and have a great day
Kapper do you have a wear blade on the bucket of that tractor or on your NS6010? Just wondering how much abuse the loader bucket is gonna get if I don’t install one on my NS6010. Thanks
It all depends on what you are going to do with it. I am more concerned with bending the straight edge of the bucket and not so much the wearing down. I don't think I have on on my NS and I do some gravel and dirt work but I try to be careful. When you start like pushing on trees and lifting or pushing something uneven then you push your luck! Good luck!
I noticed when we leveled our road the tracks where the vehicles drive sank while dirt was forced up in the center. Unfortunately this is a result of physics as weight is transferred to the ground at about 45 degree angles. Result was mud ends up on the road. Do you find this a problem on your roads?
My excavator calls that pumping LOL. Yes it was a problem early on the first couple of years but not much anymore. But we don't have a lot of traffic on our driveway either. Thank you
it would be great if I could see the handle and what your doing. I cant figure out what to do on my CK25 Kioti.If I move the lever forward it just lowers the bucket
OK, you have to almost slam the lever forward. It takes some force, and that is by design so you don't accidentally do it. Or you can keep pushing forward slowly and harder as you go to get the 'break' of the hydraulic valve. Once you do it, you will be quite amazed at how helpful it can be for back dragging and leveling! Let me know if you get it!
Ok, have the ck3510, not sure of the motion that you’re making in the forwardness of the stick if you move the stick forward it drops the bucket and normal use right, are you pushing it quickly into another position and do you obviously take it out by pulling back the lift the bucket up and that’s what it takes out of float mode, is float mode when the arms have no hydraulic power but the bucket obviously moves, dumb, and comes up, again, how does it come out of float mode just by bringing the stick back to the arms i.e. bucket
I'm sure you have it. Yes you push the stick forward, and then you give is a little 'snap,' and you'll feel it break free like a switch just went off. Then it is dead weight with no hydraulic power to the loader. BUT, while in float mode you can still move the stick left and right, which will control the angle of the bucket. Then when you want to take it out of float mode pull the stick back and snap it again to restore the hydraulic power. It is a great tool for grading! Hope you get it figured out, you won't regret it!
Yes I should have mentioned it in that video but going forward in float mode is not good on your tractor at all but I've heard people do it for plowing snow if you have concrete or asphalt as a base which wouldn't be so bad. Thanks
Kapper Outdoors yes to some degree with concrete or asphalt if there are curb edges that you can ride to keep you from going over if you don’t have curb edges lawn scalping happens
Nope works either way. But you have to be careful going forward if you don't have asphalt or concrete it's going to want to dig into the ground sometimes
Kap have you ever considered a few loads of blacktop millings put down in that problem area? Packed in and some good sunny days will bind it up nice. Just ànother option!
@@kapperoutdoors we used it for years at the highway dept. Mostly on washouts on hills. Sun and heat help bind it of course. Try to help when I can buddy 👍
To correct you, it will not slam down to the ground when put into float mode, if it does, then you have problems, the fluid is regulated to only allow so much fluid through, I have the same tractor and I can raise my loader all the way up, put it in float and have enough time to get out and walk 20 feet before it touches the ground.
Good info right there. Guess each machine is a little different! Thank you.
@@kapperoutdoors check yours, lift it up all the way and slam it into float, or part way if you are unsure, if yours is working correctly, it will just drop slowly, when I say slowly, I mean from full height to the ground, it should take 3 to 4 seconds.
Edit, if it comes crashing down then your orifice is either missing or blown open.
@@Monkey_Snot That's good info. I guess using the skid steer, which seems like a hard drop, when you engage it, I assumed as much, but I'm sure you are correct! So, I stand corrected! Always learning something new here! thanks, have a good one.
actually i think(idk fs) depends on model mines brand new like 11 hours on it new and it slams to the ground, it still isnt a sudden sudden slam but it touches pretty hard we havent talked to the dealer abt it either tho
but ours is a cx2510
Thanks! I was the “hand full” who didn’t know this feature and I’ve owned 2 tractors in 7 yrs
Good deal! It took me a while to figure it out also!! Best of luck! Take care
Thanks for putting this out, had the float whole time and made my day bit easier
Glad it helped! I'd say by far this is the most common 'un realized' tractor feature for folks. Take care thank you
my driveway is very similar to yours but not quite as steep and after regrading and adding gravel many times after washouts using my kioti ck30 i brought in some dirt and threw down grass and then hay on top to prevent washout and so far so good. it took awhile but grass is coming up and it holds in place better than just the gravel. nice video. i like your kioti.
Nice and smooth finish on the gravel! The float mode is pretty handy, I'll use it as well depending on the situation.
Yeah, what a great feature. I bet it is the SINGLE Most unknown/unused feature for most new tractor owners. Cheers!
Works like a champ.. great video sir
Thanks man hope all is well with you appreciate it take care
Love watching the tractor videos! Makes me want to get out and work my DK4510!
hoorah! I agree!! Good luck on your next project! Take care
Great video thank you so very much I’m trying to move snow and I just bought this bobcat yard tractor it has eight hours on it now I’ve had it two years but I wasn’t aware of that float and moving snow and it’s some heavy snow I didn’t realize I could work so much with that tractor going backwards. thank you so much
Good luck! Tractors are a great all around machine! I think I replied to your other comment. Take care
Good video and good results. Something to try, especially over deeper ruts, is to load up the bucket with dirt or gravel and backdrag it with a flat bucket. The extra weight will do wonders.
Might try it at some point, thank you. Cheers!
Joe, where I come from, with the bucket flat on the ground, we call that back dragging and when the bucket it tilted on the blade, we call that back blading. Back blading pulls more material back and follows the contures while back draging pulls less but gives a more even finish.
Yep good points and I agree makes sense! Thanks have a good one
I have the same tractor - it is wonderful. Floating the bucket, I was able to get the ground behind my house very close to grade. I still want a box blade, but if you don't have one, this is a good way to go.
Oh no doubt, you can really do a decent job grading with a tractor loader if you have some practice. But I agree a box blade or plane grader would also be a great addition. Thanks.
Thanks, very straight forward
Thank you much appreciated! Have a good weekend
Very helpful, TY!
You're welcome!
Good stuff to know. I back drag so much I have a hole in my bucket!
LOL Roger that! I would say this is one of the features that a lot of newer owners don't even know about. Thanks man
Nice thank you for the video. :)
You bet thanks!
So that is what the float is best used for! Makes my hilly driveway easier going backwards then forward.
When back dragging in reverse, in float mode, the loader weight will help grade uneven spots to make them more even in Float mode, even when there are hills and valleys in the area being graded. A great tool no doubt! Thanks
Haven't been here for a while. You sure do like to work. Hope the Kilcher's of Alaska are watching. 😂😀👋
Well I have to do something cuz I'm not going to just sit on the couch all day long LOL thank you
@@kapperoutdoors I didn't mean anything bad by that. It was meant as a compliment. Kiltchers are a family in Alaska followed by Discovery on their show Alaska the Last Frontier. Otto Kiltcher loves his machines and tinkering on them. You may have seen them. I'm sorry that upset you. 😁👍
@@fralinsandfriends oh heck no you did not upset me I did not mean to relay that! I've watched the kilchers many times and have enjoyed their show. No worries here, good to have you onboard I understand what you were saying no problem. Thank you and have a great day
Hey Kapper!! You keep this up and you'll have the Yote all worn out!!
LOL well that might be a good thing you never know :-) that means a lot of fun times
Thanks for the info. Just got my CK2610 HST and didn’t know what float was or meant!
Glad to help, thanks and good luck!
Awesome, you have that drive smoother than a baby's butt.
I get it now. Thanks. CK2620. - N Idaho -
Glad I could help in my opinion it is the most underused tool for tractor owners only because they're not usually aware of it thanks
Kapper do you have a wear blade on the bucket of that tractor or on your NS6010? Just wondering how much abuse the loader bucket is gonna get if I don’t install one on my NS6010. Thanks
It all depends on what you are going to do with it. I am more concerned with bending the straight edge of the bucket and not so much the wearing down. I don't think I have on on my NS and I do some gravel and dirt work but I try to be careful. When you start like pushing on trees and lifting or pushing something uneven then you push your luck! Good luck!
I noticed when we leveled our road the tracks where the vehicles drive sank while dirt was forced up in the center. Unfortunately this is a result of physics as weight is transferred to the ground at about 45 degree angles. Result was mud ends up on the road. Do you find this a problem on your roads?
My excavator calls that pumping LOL. Yes it was a problem early on the first couple of years but not much anymore. But we don't have a lot of traffic on our driveway either. Thank you
it would be great if I could see the handle and what your doing. I cant figure out what to do on my CK25 Kioti.If I move the lever forward it just lowers the bucket
OK, you have to almost slam the lever forward. It takes some force, and that is by design so you don't accidentally do it. Or you can keep pushing forward slowly and harder as you go to get the 'break' of the hydraulic valve. Once you do it, you will be quite amazed at how helpful it can be for back dragging and leveling! Let me know if you get it!
deecent 👌
Kapper does your new Kioti have any emission stuff on it?
yes it has a regen DPF but no fluid. It has to regen every now and then.
Ok, have the ck3510, not sure of the motion that you’re making in the forwardness of the stick if you move the stick forward it drops the bucket and normal use right, are you pushing it quickly into another position and do you obviously take it out by pulling back the lift the bucket up and that’s what it takes out of float mode, is float mode when the arms have no hydraulic power but the bucket obviously moves, dumb, and comes up, again, how does it come out of float mode just by bringing the stick back to the arms i.e. bucket
I'm sure you have it. Yes you push the stick forward, and then you give is a little 'snap,' and you'll feel it break free like a switch just went off. Then it is dead weight with no hydraulic power to the loader. BUT, while in float mode you can still move the stick left and right, which will control the angle of the bucket. Then when you want to take it out of float mode pull the stick back and snap it again to restore the hydraulic power. It is a great tool for grading! Hope you get it figured out, you won't regret it!
How about a little ditch and a culvert? On the upward side of the slope...
Yeah I'll tackle it at some point I wanted to avoid a ditch though since we mow the lawn there. That's really what's been holding me up
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Joe sometimes float is not the best thing when plowing snow the loss of steering lands lots of people in the stinky creek
Yes I should have mentioned it in that video but going forward in float mode is not good on your tractor at all but I've heard people do it for plowing snow if you have concrete or asphalt as a base which wouldn't be so bad. Thanks
Kapper Outdoors yes to some degree with concrete or asphalt if there are curb edges that you can ride to keep you from going over if you don’t have curb edges lawn scalping happens
So float mode only works when you’re going in reverse is that correct?
Nope works either way. But you have to be careful going forward if you don't have asphalt or concrete it's going to want to dig into the ground sometimes
Kap have you ever considered a few loads of blacktop millings put down in that problem area? Packed in and some good sunny days will bind it up nice. Just ànother option!
Man that's a fantastic idea! I might look around for that stuff because I really don't want to put a ditch there. Thanks!
@@kapperoutdoors we used it for years at the highway dept. Mostly on washouts on hills. Sun and heat help bind it of course. Try to help when I can buddy 👍