The BASICS! How To Fill Your Loader Bucket! (NSL vs. MSL Demo)
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- Опубліковано 28 сер 2024
- Tractor Time with Tim gives Jason a basic lesson on how to get a full load of material in his loader bucket. Jason has not operated a tractor before. This is a big deal - the first load of material in the bucket.
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I am a newbie tractor owner and was attempting to move my first pile of crushed asphalt today... When I stopped for dinner I watched this video,priceless....thanks!
Tim, consider have a video teaching Jason how to evening spread the material. In my opinion it is much more DIFFICULT to spread material evening that load material...Bob
more of this type of videos would be nice . there is always something to learn and give us a different perceptive on working with our tractor
This guy did a 100 times better than i did my first time!!! Must be your great guidance Tim.
Good video Tim!! Also a HUGE THANK YOU for the lube shuttle grease gun you gave to our church!! The guys who volunteer to mow have been very impressed as they keep everything greased!! It was a great day to encourage all the volunteers!!
One trick I learned from those in the colder regions that have frozen stone - they drag back the top to the front and then scoop up the front now free of ice. They do it that way with dirt and rock all year long. Works great.
Tim, Thank you as a new user of a JD 2025R this has to be one of the most helpful videos I've seen. I hope you do more of them with some of the other implements. More BASICS please.
Hey Tim, just a suggestion. Spray the ‘sweet’ spot on the bucket level gauge yellow. The visual is much easier and quicker to identify than the curve in the round bar, IMHO. I have an older JD 4310. Always struggled with a full bucket on first attempt. Will be paying more attention to when I curl the bucket now.
Stay safe and keep the vids coming.
Tim all I can say is job well done and I know as he gains experience he will only get better.
I think your video is a good way to help new owners to learn techniques and tips. Well done Tim. Even as an old timer, I enjoy seeing new owners discover the enjoyment of tractor ownership and what can be done with them, plus I always enjoy the opportunity to learn some tricks and brush up on techniques. Thanks and blessings to you and Christy!
Your a good teacher Tim, I’ve learned a lot over the years watching you and number 1 thing is seat time. And learn by your mistakes.
To Tim, *_THANKS!_* I bought my first tractor just last summer and all this time I was just "guesstimating" what was level and truth is, I was off quite a bit and always had trouble breaking into a pile of dirt that had set up too long. After using the advice in this video, I'm now getting a heaping scoop effortlessly, even without 4 wheel drive engaged or the rear wheels locked!
Tim, Recently bought a new Deere 3025E to replace my beloved Ford 8N. Was plowing the garden last fall and the engine blew up on the 8N. I almost cried...loved that old tractor. It did everything I ever wanted it to do. Looked into getting the engine rebuilt and looked at replacement machines including Mahindra, Kubota and Deere. The new machines were all about the same price roughly, but I just couldn't pull the trigger on a new tractor. A couple of weeks went by and the Deere dealer called and said the new 3025E I was looking at, had a new deal going on and was $2500 off the price they originally quoted. That was enough incentive for me to buy.
The 3025E did not have a loader, but that was OK with me. The 8N did not have one and I have gotten by for 25 years without one. So this is why I am commenting.
We have 5 acres south of Kansas City 20 miles and use a tractor for our own personal use. Occasionally I will plow snow for the next door neighbor or push up a burning brush pile for neighbors. Here are the attachments that I have and really all a person minimally needs for a small acreage home, with a large garden, in my opinion.
Here is what I have, rear blade, 1bottom plow, disk, sub soiler, a small utility trailer and a 5ft finish mower. I maintain that a person can get by with these few attachments and properly maintain a small acreage home site very well. The only extra I have purchased for the 3025E are 4, 40lb weights for the front of the tractor. When plowing the garden the front kept coming up. The 8N never did that, but I guess it must have been heavier.
I understand that there are lots of cool attachments and new products that you promote on your channel, and that makes it interesting for all of us to watch. I wish you would do a minimalist attachment video for those of us that don't have an unlimited account for such items.
I am a loyal subscriber and watch every one of you vids. This is just an idea for you to consider, on a future video.
Thanks,
Clay Hirner
Spring Hill, Ks.
Thanks for the comment. I get your point, but I must say that you are REALLY missing out by not getting a loader on your new tractor.
@@TractorTimewithTim Ha Ha.....I knew you would say that.
Love the “Basics” concept, Tim. Thanks!
Your videos such as this one are the primary reason that I enjoy watching your channel. Very informative and instructional for the novice tractor owner, you do a great job of teaching the know-how basics, exactly like this. Thank you so much and please continue with instructional videos like this. Love them!!
I have years of snow removal experience and have had a tractor for years, but I still enjoy these videos. Way to go Tim.
Tim, I have to thank you for this GREAT video........ As a first time 1025r owner....... i had put 5 hours on the machine and was unable to scoop up the boulders all over my property.........but after watching this video....... i havent missed one. Thanks so much for the content !!!!
I mark my bucket level indicator with permanent markers color coded to the attachment. I also use inexpensive aftermarket backup cameras and monitor to view the front of the attachment from the tractor seat. The camera can be mounted to the attachment with a bracket or used with a strong magnetic mount to move from one attachment to.another. Enjoyed the video.
FIRST, get that ROPS up! Even on level ground, you can flip it with the bucket up in the air (too tight a turn going too fast are the primary culprits there, but even if you always go slow, it’s a good habit to be in).
Jason, if you are out there reading this comment, congratulations! 🍾🎊🎈🎉 That’s a beautiful tractor. I’m sure some time has passed since this was filmed. How’s it going so far? Any words of wisdom you’d like to share? I’m happy for you. 👍
Tim....you taught Jason correctly! It will become second nature for him before long!
Hello Tim, very nice video. Nothing beats teaching someone how to operate equipment in real world scenarios. Just a thought maybe you could start another segment of your channel "Tips and Tricks Thursday" or "Tim's Tips and Tricks". Anyhow, as always good quality video. Thanks.
Anyone who hasn't used a loader needs somewhere to start Teaching Time With Tim.
We all needed reminded of the basics now and then, thanks!
Great info for new tractor owners for sure...thanks Tim
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PLEASE help me. Beginner here!! Tim, you were by far the best of all tractor you tube channels in giving me extensive info to decide on buying my 1025R. With 25 hours on it ( most mowing ) & after my 1st use of loader to help friend spread "crusher run" of gravel to add to & level her driveway: I feel like I am in need of much more info. This video is great. Can you please consider making even more INTRO level videos??? Example: I know my loader can handle 600lbs safely (maybe more) but for this very budget restrained owner .. per specs, HP concerns & wanting to know BEST practices to make sure I do it right. So HOW TOs that are like teaching a person who may not be able to understand the manual). I have so little time and NEED to not break anything. AND when showing the operator...perhaps edit in or ZOOM to the hand controls. Another example, close ups on REAL life challenges to install and removal of quick connect mid mount mower. PROPER carrying of loads ( low to ground) and CLOSE UP on what you are doing at the level indicator. I didnt remember from manual re level. IM going to have a mini stroke reading and looking for videos. ( no time after c19 related job loss... WANT to eventually use my 1025r for small for hire jobs locally. WAS a paramedic for 30 years and I saw a lot of mishaps..some fatal for well meaning weekend farmers. ROPS up disclaimer for sure. ALSO NEED BEST ECONOMICAL Couner weight for loader and snow pusher /BEST FOR LONG term use (fuel economy, wear and tear on machine). THANK YOU in advance AND I WILL STICK with you and Christie because you truly are the best. - Grateful city slicker turned country gal here!
Perfect video. I just bought my first tractor equipped with a FE loader (Kubota L3902) and was pleased to find your informative video. Knowing to push in with the bucket level...then curling after resistance is felt is quite helpful to the beginner. Like you demonstrated, I was trying to curl as I was going into the dirt resulting in low volume buckets of material. I'm heading back out to practice my newfound technique. Also was helpful to show how to shake the bucket to level the load for transit. I've seen many folks spilling material out along the way since they don't shake. THANKS!!
I'm 66 and I just got my first tractor yesterday, (it's a used, but not abused JD-4300) Anyway, I wanted to tell you that I found this to be very informative. And I intend to watch many more of your videos to pick up as many free tips and tricks as I can get. 😊
Thanks for watching! Welcome to our channel!
Very helpful for me, a future tractor owner. Thanks for the lesson.
I had the perfect practice media when I first received my 1025R. We had just had a dumptruck load of milled hardwood "ends" from a lumbermill delivered for our livingroom stove. 9" to 12" long and 6" to 8" thick hardwood blocks. Gave me the opportunity to learn the level, float and lift/curl features without a massive weight. Worked great compaired to handcarts we relied on in prior years!
Great job Tim. Not only help to Jason, but a lot of help for us learners.
Common mistake most people think you need to ram the tractor into the pile quick. Slower and easier let the loader and bucket do the work.. it takes time and practice to get it.. and there is those that never get it.. one of them things you can really not teach.. other than pointers.. like everything else in life you either have a natural nack at it or you don't
Good job Tim. One thing you should have covered with a newbie is making sure he has proper ballast in the rear. Makes using the loader easier and way safer.
Thanks for the basics. I’m a first time tractor owner and have a lot to learn.
Excellent video Tim, I learned a good bit from this myself. It won’t be much longer before I’ll be purchasing my first actual tractor, a 1025R. Your videos are very educational and helpful. I enjoy learning from the master.
Very helpful step by step beginners video. Thank you.
It will be very helpful to new users have a day love from TEXAS
I could see this being a series on your channel. Making videos of basic tractor skills for new tractor buyers. Ive got to 1025r to help with my business just from watching your channel. It helps out alot and i see the 1025r a labor saver. I can hire less people or none if i can just use the tractor.
Sure, it’s amazing how much work a few dollars of diesel can achieve.
Tim, I have been watching your videos for a while now to get some tips etc and this one was excellent. Our church bought a new tractor last year after I did some research and have basically learnt from you and others (and trial and error) about how to be effective. THis video was one area that I seemed to struggle with and you explained it brilliantly... thanks
One of the reasons you need to backup with these SCUT is the lift of the main cylinder actually pushes the entire bucket assembly forward. Think of an arc. It doesn't operate like a skid steer where it goes up and down vertically. It is really apparent when pushing into a pile like you were doing. Backing out a bit provides the relief to allow the lift arc to overcome the resistance.
Makes sense. Zero loader experience here (going to be ordering a tractor) - Could you just put it neutral & let the arc motion of raising bucket push the tractor back?
You could really see the difference between the MSL and NSL as far as a full level bucket is concerned. I’m glad I have a NSL.
Good advice for a newbie Tim. Now, Jason get out there and play. Experience is the next class, learn the “feel”! Also Tim, NICE “equipment “ yard. Wish mine was as extensive lol
Thanks Tim...We got a new orange machine 2 years ago at the Scout camp (Canada) & I have always had problems loading. Great video !
Tim, great video for those of us that are beginners in the world of tractors!
Jason did a great job, the way I learned was to get on my loader and practice. Didn't have anyone to tell me how to do it.Love the videos!
Very informative and educational! Love it!
Thank you for posting this informative video. As I have my first subcompact tractor on order and have never operated a tractor, I'm one for whom this was very helpful. I'll watch it again the day before my tractor arrives... probably more than once!
I recommend doing projects for free for a year or so. Do not force customers to pay for your inexperience.
Great job Tim...as a first time tractor owner, this video was very helpful. Keep'm coming.
Tim, all your video are extremely helpful for a newbie. Take no offense but the best part is a verse at the end. God Bless!
Just bought my first tractor. John Deere 1025r, in a large part due to your video series on you tube. John Deere should take notice if they haven’t already and send some compensation your way. Location... south east of Tulsa Ok
Congratulations!
There were a couple times your right foot looked like it was going to get run over!
Good job with the teaching, most folks can show someone what they're doing, but don't have a clue as to how they do it, nor explain it clearly.
Tim your such a good teacher wish I had someone like you when I first time on my bx23s I can't count the number of times I scalped the grass learning lol.
Lovin the "shake shake"
Awesome how you were able to help show this feller the ropes. Good job, driver.
Thanks Tim! My new 1025R will be delivered this week. First time loader user
Congratulations!
I just got my JD 1023 a few months ago so I am new to these videos. I owned a farm for 25 years and I have thousands of hours on skid steer loaders, wheel loaders, and backhoes. Those have much more lifting power, on my JD 510 backhoe when you pull the lift lever those cylinders are going to extend. Either the bucket goes up or if you are hooked under a stump the back wheels are going to come off the ground. The other thing is these little loaders will not do two functions at a time. If you are curling the bucket even if it is all the way curled it will not lift. You have to center the control lever and then pull back.
And Tim, this is where Kubota does something better than John Deere. Kubota can curl and lift at the same time, where JD can not. 😊😊
Tim’s a good teacher. Regarding the toothbar, I find that it’s more difficult to get a full load with the bar on.
I know this video is from some months ago, and that you said at the end that there are more advanced techniques etc... I grew up on tractors but never REALLY learned to load a bucket until I graduated high school and went to work as a High Lift operator processing coal. As you can see by watching this video back, when you tell him to start into the pile and the machine starts laboring, you can see the front tires lifting off the ground. At this point you have him rolling the bucket back. I would suggest lifting the boom slightly before rolling it back, which will put weight on the front tires, not trying to lift it through the pile but lift it to put weight back on the front tires. Then you roll the bucket back about half way and continue pushing forward while gently lifting the boom. Now the slope on the underside of your bucket will actually lift the bucket as you drive forward. The other thing this does is keeps from that "jerking" motion you can see while his front wheels are off the ground, leading to broken pins or bent booms... I understand this is a little more advanced method of filling your bucket, but if you learn it this way you can learn to make it look like it's all done in one motion, you can drive into a pile, back out, shake the bucket as you back out and have a heaped bucket almost every time. One last thing to mention, being in 4WD does absolutely nothing for you, if you do not lift the boom to keep weight on the front wheels... as soon as your front wheels leave the ground you might as well just be in 2wd. By lifting the boom, you keep all 4 wheels in solid contact with the ground giving you more "pushing" traction. Hopefully my explanation is clear enough and helps someone! Love your videos though Tim, you are an asset to tractor owners everywhere!
Loader Skills 101. 45 Minute class. 3 Credit points. Thanks. I learned something new.
Its been 30 years since I sat on a tractor seat. Watching this brought back plenty of memories on a 30 HP Yanmar with my son as a 2 YO on my lap - he's now 34 but you can do the math!
Im still confused about self leveling buckets and NSL vs MSL
Welcome to our channel, Scott. We have one several videos recently on the MSL vs NSL loaders. I think you’ll grasp the differences if you take a look at those episodes.
I meant to also say how much I enjoy your videos! Also I think more of these instructional type videos would go a looong ways!
Thanks Tim and Christy!
this a good way for first tthe good workime people when we started out there was no leavling bar it was all done with eye sight but you do a good job teaching him keep up
Thanks for the video, I am in the middle of dealing with my gravel pile to bring up ground levels around a building. Cheers, good advice.
Great video. Seems like Jason picked it up pretty quickly. On a side note, looks like the NSL secures the load a little better when working with loose material like that.
Thanks Tim this video help me to better understand how to load my bucket I'm a first time tractor owner
Great video Tim. We all need to be reminded of the basics some times.
Big difference between MSL vs NSL loaders. If I were doing more bucket work I would prefer NSL. The bucket gives more curl, less spillage and would seem to carry more material per load.
Fork work is a different story...
I had the exact same thought. The NSL bucket held more material and less spillage. You really have to shake a lot of material back out of the MSL bucket to ensure you don't dribble material while travelling. If I was loading pallets all day and HAD to use a tractor I would be falling all over myself to get a MSL loader. But for general purpose bucket, fork, lifting, towing the NSL will continue to work just fine.
Thanks helpful to operator of Kubota 5200 after 3 or 4 years .not too elementary but helpful. 😊
Very good video for the beginner. Should help a lot of new tractor owners feel more confident using a loader.
This is funny I just taught my son how to pick up material with the bucket on my 1025r today and I just saw this video today
Very nice job on teaching a new tractor user.
That a boy, Tim! Great teachers are hard to come by!!!
Hey tim..... I think a word of caution should be made about safety when lifting materials with any front end loader. "A full bucket of dirt, gravel or sand will spill over the back of the bucket onto the hood of the tractor if the operator fails to UNCURL THE BUCKET on the way up to full lift." This becomes GREATLY MORE DANGEROUS TO THE OPERATOR WHEN LIFTING less stable loaded like ROCKS and CUT LOGS THAT FIT IN THE BUCKET. LOGS LONGER THAN THE WIDTH OF THE BUCKET OR A ROUND BAIL OF HAY BECOME POTENTIALLY LETHAL. ."
Great demo, thank you!!
Hey Tim 🚜 great vlog I really enjoyed this video 🇺🇲💯
Great video with good examples for the beginner like me!
good job on the video Tim , Im almost convinced to get the msl loader, even though the msl loader doesnt seem to curl enough i believe if you could weight what each bucket handles , lyou would find out that the msl loader has the same amount of material after you do the shaking part of gettin rid of lose material .
I notice when your friend put the msl bucket into the pile and did his curl , he had a loaded bucket
That's how you fill using 4x4 but you can curl-down, with the front wheels slightly off the ground & arc the tractor's weight into the material to then curl-up for a full load with 2wd.
Can you show us how to dump and distribute the load? Also, using the bucket edge to drag to smooth out.
Great video. I had to figure all this out via trial and error-a lot of practice.
This was good info for a new guy!! You gotta learn to walk before you run!
Great video Tim!! I too found the hydraulics smoother with my MSL, but I have attributed that to the fact that I don't have to level a load going up or down. You mentioned the shake shake in one of my videos, the shake shake is quite difficult with the MSL, not sure if the linkages absorb that or not. But it is equally difficult shaking a load level or shaking the bucket after dumping to get "sticky" material out of the bucket.
Nice job as always.
Tim u done good , everybody needs to start somewhere
This was great. How about a video series of basic operations?
Great video; perfect for me! I've never operated a tractor. I haven't even sat on a tractor since I was 6 about 57 years ago. In 2 weeks I receive my first tractor: a 2032r like in this video. I need to find more "first time owner" videos.
We do a lot of videos which are helpful for first time owner.
And I'll be watching all I can over the next couple of weeks to get ready. Thanks!
Thank you! Now I know why my level indicator isn't level...off to adjust it. Good stuff, as always Tim!
Sweet! I just got a tractor and been using it for awhile, this is great cuz sometimes I felt I was breaking it.
I always enjoy your content. We are just up the road in Purdue country.
Thanks, been using a 2305 for a few years but didn't know about shake shake.
Great tutorial, thanks, I pickup my first tractor this week so this sure will help
one thing, there should be no ramming into the pile and dont spin the tires. if you spin you have to bounce through your tracks for the rest of the day.
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tks new owner here and enjoyed.
I had no clue you could adjust the level indicator. Got a new project.thanks.
Great video Tim. Always good information to learn from or to just get a refresher.
Great job. Getting the last bits of a pile would be a good video too.
Tim have you thought about opening a tractor school for new owners? I've been around tractors since i was a kid, still pickup little tips and tricks from you! Love your channel!!!
Good video. At the end of the curl I lift up as high as I can and shake (if on fairly level ground) and bring down and one final shake.
Jason has the correct pronunciation!
Thanks for the instructional video. It's great to know how to purchase and maintain but the bulk of time and opportunity will be opporating the equipment. As always, thanks for sharing scripture.