Rebuilding The $350 Seized Honda 250x Quad. Will It Run?
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- Опубліковано 27 тра 2021
- I buy a bunch of new parts for the 1987 Honda 250x and begin to rebuild it. Can we fix it and will it start? #Honda, #Quad, #Seized,
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Well I'm deep into this build now. No turning back. Hopefully I made the right decision to rebuild it!
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That head to be properly fixed needs to be sent to a machinist and have the valve seat resurfaced one little Nick or dip or deviation in that and that new valve that you are going to install will burn out in no time we checked that you could have bought a used head for the price of the rocker arms
Piston is 11.1 piston has high dome 4:29
And we are deeply grateful for your content for education and fun and plus you manage to answer with so many people subscribed to your channel and plus you explain research search buy entertain educate and keeping us on standby for the next video . And you editing and rendering and posting videos as a creator of your content the same time you're fixing something working on it
You can’t lap those valves joe. They are titanium and when you lap titanium valves it ruins them and they get burnt after being run at operating temperature. You need a whole new set of valves at the least, but I’d get a head and new valves.
Done
Amazing i love older honda bikes! Got another honda xr400 1997 today these bikes are so fun and easy to work on i got it running in first part of the build series🙃
I hope you checked the valve guide bud. One of the most common reasons a valve gets dropped other than a rocker arm adjuster backing off is a worn out valve guide allowing the valve to wobble bad enough it wears thin near the bottom of the stem causing it to snap. If you don't replace the guide it will do it again to the new valve.
i rebuilt my grizzly from the ground up honestly seeing you fixing stuff like this is motivation to keep going
I was thinking the piston is more compression!! Good job brother !!
Just sliding the piston in the cylinder and then saying yeah it's good it fits maybe you should invest in some more tools get a bore gauge and some micrometers
Lol I was literally thinking the same thing. I hope people don’t learn from his techniques... I still don’t know why he didn’t do a light bore on cylinder after all that damge
@@randomguy1807 what damage? He said that the cylinder was fine, just needed a light hone.
Ujarneq Sørensen the valve dropped that is the damge in talking about. Just because he said it was fine doesn’t mean it is. Half the time this dude rigs up stuff just to get it to work then screw someone over.
@@randomguy1807 I respect him for not hiding it though
@@randomguy1807 the cylinder was perfect. Not a single scratch or imperfection. I measured the piston and the cylinder many times. I do a lot of the work off camera so I can save time for myself and for the video.
you should always bore the next size up when doing new pistons. The cylinder can be slightly out of round and wear it out twice as fast as normal
This is MMO on my other account! I seen u did ring end gap on the bottom of the cylinder. The ring never rides in that area so I prefer to check about an inch from the top. Just a helpful tip!
That little orange pamphlet that you neglected to read that sitting on the white box with that the rings came out of they tell you minimum clearances
And u can file the ends if they are too close
damn this guy just loves us. I make a comment earlier about how the worst part of his videos is when they end, what does he do? UPLOADS ANOTHER VIDEO FOR US.
bless you 2vintage and your rebuilding skills
This guy litterly has my dream life of buying and rebuilding atvs and bikes
He needs an apprentice, maybe he's taking applications. haha
@@donseymour5560 I'm looking at maybe doing that soon actually.
@@2vintage that would be pretty cool if you did that be like cars and cameras! Build some cool stuff!
Just gotta start learn by watching UA-cam I’m 14 and have flipped 8 bikes so far
@@breezzy5274 I have been working on dirtbikes and quads since I was 3 and I've rebuilt multiple engines so far, I'm 13 and I just dont have the money to buy and flip them
I watch your channel everyday live in Baldwin Michigan Trails everywhere you're teaching this old dogg new tricks.
My girlfriend “ how are you so good with those fingers??” Me after watching these videos and learning how to bore a cylinder 😂😂
hahahaha
You don't have a girlfriend
@@Friendroid dont be like that
Honed not bored
He didn’t bore it. He SHOULD have but being the cheapo he is he half ass honed it
ull double ur money brother glad u deciced to go head and do it theres not many of the 250x left glad to see one get the attention it deserves
I Just threw a motor away should of rebuild it
Not with that half-assed hone job.
@@robspear03 honing is only supposed to clean bore any more and u mite as well take to machine shop and get it bored and thats not what channel is about bet it runs great
A tip for getting stubborn gaskets off is to use break cleaner.It breaks down the material of the gasket holding it to the surface therefor making it come off easy
I'll have to try that!
Try inserting the piston half way in the cylinder first (the ring part) then putting it on the crank .. It’s way easier 🇸🇷
ahhh smart didnt think about that :) i always struggle to got the rings to fit
You should try it .. it makes it way more easier
Love the vids man keep them coming
You might also want to measure the length of the 3 remaining valves and compare those to the new one to see if the old ones are stretched and getting ready to break as well. Thought I'd mention to avoid you doing all that excellent work only to have another valve head break off and ruin it! Nice work thus far!!!
Awesome video man
My dad had a Cessna 150 airplane do the same thing to him. Ouch!! But, rather than crater everything besides the cylinder it was spat out of the exhaust port. Great rebuild.
Clean stains up with small scotch brite dremel pads, and we do it all the time here. great video once again!!
Awesome video sir!
Looking forward to this thing running
Oooooo some stickers, i say that everytime i get a wiseco🤣
Awesome vid and edits and filming and bike
Looking good! This will be a good one. I would get a cam if it's not too expensive.
Just ordered a cam
That dome shape on that new piston might give you more power than the flat top one that was in there.
That's a high dome piston for racing
Awesome bro😎
Awesome good job.
The bigger drill sized brass wire brush wheels do amazing job on the combustion chamber, fyi. Good brake clean shot when done is a must.
That’s a hell of a dome on that weisco piston! Comp. ratio definitely gonna go up. Lol looks like a Mini 96-00 Civic Type R piston
With higher compression piston you need more Gap in the ring
You deserve more activity in your channel
For taking off paper gaskets try a wire brush way easier
Good job joe great work should be a good quad once finished 🔧🔧🔧👌👍
That tool kit you had on the floor where do I find it?
lmfao love the channell it should be called how to half ass fix stuff i guess thats ok for this junker and we can hear your nieghbor mowing lol
At least he doesn't block your comment I respect him for that
@@Stewsdrums i guess i dont care if he does i like the channell just some of the cutting corner stuff is kinda like jimmy rigging it but on something like this i guess the cheaper the better cause it really isnt worth much and must the time im just being a smart ass flipping him shit being sarcastic but then theres people like you lol
@@mikestowe6136 I can't trust channels that block negative comments. I can't imagine paying that much for the locked up piece of crap to begin with.
@@Stewsdrums to me i guess its a dgood learning project im sure youtube funds the projects as long as he has fun fixing them n makes a few bucks off them good for him i just hope the guy that buys them doesnt watch his channell lmfao
@@mikestowe6136 yeah my friends and I talked about that also like with the J-B Weld
haven’t built that many engines but that ring gap seems awfully small.usually 0.3-0.5 and round edges on edge of rings but hey maybe it’s different on 4 strokes what’s the worst that can happen?
Awsome vid
I asked you to do a video of your collection 1 year ago and u said before Christmas so please after this project do one👍
Vid are amazing bra
5:37. Pause. the piece of globe is visible pinched between the ring and the cylinder wall.
Where did you get the back axle for the the red 400ex
I really enjoy your videos, Joe. It takes guts and some thick skin to put out vids like this. Everyone has their own way of doing things and some have no problem tearing into those that do things differently than they do. Oddly, folks like that aren't rebuilding bikes and quads on their own channel, eh?
I've learned a lot here. Keep gettin' after it!
I respect him because he does not block negative comments
@@Stewsdrums he is transparent. Lots of respect for Joe and this channel.
If heat doesn't work on that pin. Try a can of air used to blow off keyboards and such. If you hold up side down it'll spray out really cold liquid. If you heat up whole thing and then cool the pin it may come right out
That Wiseco high compression is going to murder that cheap Chinese head gasket. Gave up on those Chinese head gaskets years ago b/c they like to blow even on low revving utility quads. Great video series none the less. Keep up the good work.
If you take a 6" - 8" long piece of copper tube and hammer one end closed and flat, you can sharpen and hone the flat end to use as a gasket remover. It's soft enough to be a safe tool for use on aluminum gasket surfaces and hard enough to remove gaskets.
Brake Clean is faster.
Just an idea what about putting anti-seiz on all the bolts. It would make it easier if you had to take it apart again
I'm about to put a hot cam in my 87 TRX 250x any suggestions on it?
When did you get that yellow 400ex
It’s crazy how far ahead you is on the video because this the second one and you got the bike 2 week ago which mean you got a lot of videos done you just upload them
Please tell me you washed the cylinder after honing and the head after lapping the valves
Yes I did
With channels like this, there is a WHOLE lot that happens off camera. If he showed it all, this vid would be 10 times as long.
@@SonOfLiberty1984 exactly thank you!
@@2vintage and then put it back down on the dirty floor 😳. Probably doesn't even own a parts washer.....
@@SonOfLiberty1984 then why bother showing anything?
Its a dome type piston its for a higher compression ratio
You should pick up a ball hone does a better job on the bore
Your just like me , $300 in parts and the free stickers are more exciting lol.
Another "niiicee" build to the books! 🤣
You should build a four wheeler from the frame up.
Bring on the next video!!!!!
You may have to run race gas with that dome piston. It should have a lot more power. Look up neway small engine valve seat cutters.
Why did you not go ahead and replace the other valve it was only 25 bucks because it will be the next thing to fail
Hey man that valve seat looked a little beat
250x is a great quad for wheelies btw.
we all know you bought that piston just for the stickers. its ok to admit it joe, i've done the same! LOL
Hahaha
Cool
That clearance is way too tight you need at least .012 but there's an equation to do it you should have a minimum of the clearance that I just said .012 any less than that and you're going to have issues
You left part of your glove inside the cylinder 5:38
Those big "bumps " are for higher compression!
You got all that money in that top end Don't be cheap replace that cam dude
Just bought a cam
@@2vintage smart
Did nobody else see the piece of his latex gloves rip off and stick inside the cylinder when he installed the first ring?!??
Mam the commercials are getting wirse everytime i watch what a bummer. Itgerwise great video please show what come from the carb probs on the banchee 550
sorry bout typos lo0lolol fat fingers on the phone lmao!!!!
@Whoop!
Not first !
Could be a high compression piston
Why would you not replace the other 3 valves? 25:23 you can see how badly worn the valve is, it's worn into a paper thin edge ready to snap.If the valve is that compromised it needs to be replaced. You had the head completely disassembled yet never cleaned it before reassembling.
You shouldn’t use a wire brush on that kinda stuff use a scotch brite/scuff pad
😎👍
A ring gap that is to small is definitely not better than one that is too big
I do this stuff for an actual living I actually build high horsepower 2-stroke motors I just built a 90 horsepower banshee for 21 I have an LTR 450 that will eat up any big bore Banshee out there unless it's a DM
Cool story but you should probably upload some of these high horsepower 2 stroke engines before critiquing everything on someone else's channel. I wouldn't let you work on my bicycle just based off your user name lol.
Is There any video where his gloves were not ripped
That's a high compression piston
It’s a high Comp piston
High compression piston prob got a 12.1 compared to the stock whatever that is
Yep that's correct
Phuck yeah 2v timeeee
Helloo
I'd replace that cylinder head or have a pro repair it the right way
Why would you do that Larry the lads more than capable in fixing him self mate save the dollar if it don’t work then buy a new top end.
@@djdoctorevo so your idea is to save money half-assing something back toget9to save money, but when it ultimately fails...spend MORE money to replace the same parts that couldve been repaired correctly initially?
Fucking Millenials...ill never understand.
More 400ex vids???
On Sunday I'm uploading a 400ex video!
@@2vintage awesome
@@2vintage btw I did see the yellow 400ex
You should make a restoration series on this turd lol
Second dang it 😂
Doubt you'll have more in it then what its worth when your done
I never could understand why he paid so much for it to begin with with it being seized up
Agreed. Its the old "polish a turd" mentality.
Scarce or not, i pity the kid he sells this to.
Do a cylinder leak down test to make sure that that valve isn't leaking because if that valve leaks at all you'll just burn it out
Your talking baby to this professional
Sick l8ke Chuck??
Is he putting old rings on a new piston ?
Nope new rings
Second
Super scraper.
The new piston is a higher compression that’s why it has the raised dome
U sure the arrow points out?
Yes
Dont know why he dident replace the cam chain i made that mistake once
Yeah don't forget the wrist pin clips. I did that once and it was a disaster. Destroyed a brand new cylinder. I had to buy a whole new kit that was over $600. Just because I left one clip out..urgh
Please explain to us why?? Why why why is it so important to put those motors back together all freaking dirty nasty like that..
Clean them if you want to to. I spray them with brake cleaner to get all the heavy stuff off but im not spending hours cleaning it for this $350 quad lol.
@@2vintage All you have to do is soak them for 10 minutes.. Or parts clean... I mean why not you do it to the Plastics.. The motor is more important than them.. Keep up the good work you do have a great channel..