Great instruction and tips as always. The entertainment value was very high as well. The lesson of spooning and napping on my adventure motorcycle when I need a break is priceless 😂
In 1993 I took my Honda XL350R thru Mozambique, Zimbabwe, Botswana, South Africa, and back to Mozambique. I was the first foreigner to travel through Mozambique after the wars quit, and the road had just been de-mined. At least I was hoping they hadn’t missed any! At one point I got into deep sugar-sand and I had no idea how to do that. Wish you guys had been there to show me the tricks. My shins were bleeding from kicking the foot pegs repeatedly. On top of that there were giant tsetsy flies, biting me, and trying to get up into my helmet. I still get the heebie-jeebies just thinking about it. So I have still not figured out how to ride in deep sand. Yet!
I see that you're out with the Dragoo's in Oklahoma. Bill and his family and friends are great people and instructors. My buddy and I had a fun and informative training time with them last year. God Bless.
Ben!! Hey Ben we have met several time up at Dirtdaze in New Hampshire helped set up the course each year for your classes. Hope to see you this year as well. Bret!! You should come this year??!!!?? Great video Men. Adv for life!!
And we are completely ignoring the fact that we are probably not be riding the best adventure bikes from brands such as ducati & bmw & the likes on the way to starbucks. 😂
Great tips for sand. Just spent the past weekend in the Borrego, CA sand. The more reps, the easier it gets. Practice, practice, practice. Thanks for the post.
I must’ve watched hours and hours of motorcycle reviews on UA-cam but this is the most objective, well presented review I’ve ever watched. King regards from Barcelona!
Guys this video was so informative and so funny at the same time! I'm pretty sure you had lots of fun shooting it. You make me feel like been there with you! Please more!!!
Man, I‘ve been riding GSes for about 20yrs now but it never came to my mind having a nap on it 😂👍 Thanks for the video even I will avoid sand like this
Paul I love You and Your strategy. You change my world of adventure riding :) I will always wait for correct moment. Idea not now, but maybe later is great :) Greetings from Poland guys! Best for You!
The scene with the guy sleeping on the bike was so good lol I learnt a lot and now use my bike as a bed too . Thanks and also thanks for the real advice. You guys have taught me a lot through the years. Sorry for the bad spelling I had to try to fix some of it lol
Glad Paul was able to get his beauty rest, not that he needs it! Can't believe it's been two years since I trained with you guys. Just traded my Vstrom for a Tenere!
just last week i went on a 70km offroad trip and encoutered lot of sand dunes and sand paths, i got stuck many times, but one of them i had to walk by my moto while using the throttle, later learned some strategy to avoid loose sand left by 4x4 vehicules tracks bc it's too loose, undisturbed sand rocks and if you find rock or gravel paths, it's better to take them than go into sand paths unless your motorcycle is a light minibike, after all, sand robes you of fuel and body energy and water (btw, i'm from the sahara desert)
Now that was an adventure. So the definition of adventure includes being a “typically hazardous” activity, thoroughly satisfied by riding a 500 lb bike off-road at all, let alone in deep sand. Need to be in shape for that one. Recommend learning to ride sand on something more suited before trying and learning by repetition on a big bike at an advanced age.
Very frequently it happens not on straight terrain where you can do all these, but in narrow turn to side, interested in how to get out of this situation where you cannot really move motorcycle much and of course you cannot do full engage on second gear.
Most people take away is "avoid sand". Mine is avoid 600 lbs bike. I have grown in sand similar to this and I never had to lean the bike on his side to get unstuck on flat ground. Even with dual sport, just a small tug with some clutch or something like the third guy did works every time. I am not saying that this video is wrong, just that those bike seems miserable to ride P.S: I would be curious to see how these beast respond to simply rocking them a couple of time
I got the big... gsa... I have a blast riding her on the sand and tough stuff and all the while smashing highway miles... multiple day and week trips become a hoot.
I disagree. Even a street tire is going to get more thrust using the third method. That being said, a more aggressive tire will certainly yield better results.
Wish I had some sand tracks in my region for training. Only in the north of Germany on some patches. And not as deep as your tracks. What I could try out is some napping on the bike ;-) Cheers from Nürnberg/Bavaria, Günter
I live in Southern Arizona have rode here for years so I think I can save my two cents on this stay on your pegs and on the gas the worst thing you can do is stop especially if you're on a heavy machine but don't let it intimidate you you'll learn how to ride in it now I fly through it like it's nothing
DID you know after a rain the sand on the sunny side of the hill dries faster than the nice damp sand on the not sunny side? I inspected the dry sand and the sky a couple times as I tumbled to a stop. I inspected some more as I wrassled my bike upright onto it’s wheels. I then got online to research what oil...
The whole time I was watching this I kept thinking to myself, "That looks like the Canadian River. As short and jacked up as the trees are and as sandy as that area is, that has to be Oklahoma" Then Bill said he was out of Norman. Nailed it. I'm not sure an ADV riding school is enough to make me come back to OK, even for a visit. Terrible place.
Rode the sands in my Desert X on stock tires already and not sure if I agree that the traction control will not help you in this situations. For a short sand crossing your technique might work but you cannot do that for sever Km's... I found myself preferring to reduce the horse power like using Enduro mode for example but keeping the traction control on would allow me to keep going foreword without burying the rear tire. Moreover because by being an unexperienced rider the electronic help from the bike really makes a diference.
I've been wondering whether to turn off traction control when riding on sand or gravel. From this video it looks like yes I should if riding in deep sand so that the rear wheel can spin. But what about shallow sand or gravel?
No offense! I love Bret’s videos. The instructional videos are disconnected from the real world. When you are riding out there for hundreds of miles, are tired, and you bike gets stuck in the sand or if you drop it, you don’t have all this time and patience to dig, and think of various strategies. You naturally want to lift the bike and get out of there. Same is the case with hill climbs. Never ever we stop before the hill climb, then walk up the hill to assess what line you got to take. In reality you come around a corner and realize you got to keep going and you figure out the line on your way up. Same with down hill. Learning from videos is reading a book on how to drive a car. The best way to learn this is to attend adventure training classes with Bret or others. Take your motorbike out there, ride it drop it, pick it. That’s the only way you are going to learn. Practice practice practice
Great video, great advice. Nicely done. Just one thing, you forgot the part about filling in your holes after you get out so the next guy doesn't get stuck. 😉 Keep the videos coming.
You need more wheel revolutions to get out. 1st gear won't spin the wheel fast enough. I always ride in 2nd or 3rd gear to avoid getting stuck so I disagree with his suggestion to downshift once you are clear. It is harder to get stuck in sand when going faster because the wheels stay on top.
My take is that too much torque just spins the wheel, overcoming any traction. Second gear and a little clutch slipping better shot of keeping tire hooked up or spinning slower than gunning it in first, which just digs the hole. On sand, the bike needs gentle forward motive force to be manageable…even slowing down!
The same thing for snow driving in a car, wheels do not spin as fast and you get a good amount of torque to drive/ride in a controlled manner. It gives you a more controlled acceleration.
Top. Looks like in Desert X you have Karoo 4 tyres … what is your opinion for that tyre in Sand ?! And other type of terrains ?! Thank hounding advance
what they say only works in this specific type of sand they are... Ive had the bike stuck and wouldnt move forward even if I was next to it pushing.. thin sand is a whole other story
The ending is epic
Great instruction and tips as always. The entertainment value was very high as well. The lesson of spooning and napping on my adventure motorcycle when I need a break is priceless 😂
Yep my main takeaway is "Avoid sand" 😅
Great video, definitely three simple approaches to getting unstuck!!
Same! 😅
Great tips, great riding, and Paul's "old man time out" was hilarious.
Bret's "maybe a little village" followed by his Godzilla impersonation was good too
Paul needs to be on more! He's hilarious and always insightful.
I agree
In 1993 I took my Honda XL350R thru Mozambique, Zimbabwe, Botswana, South Africa, and back to Mozambique. I was the first foreigner to travel through Mozambique after the wars quit, and the road had just been de-mined. At least I was hoping they hadn’t missed any! At one point I got into deep sugar-sand and I had no idea how to do that. Wish you guys had been there to show me the tricks. My shins were bleeding from kicking the foot pegs repeatedly. On top of that there were giant tsetsy flies, biting me, and trying to get up into my helmet. I still get the heebie-jeebies just thinking about it. So I have still not figured out how to ride in deep sand. Yet!
I see that you're out with the Dragoo's in Oklahoma. Bill and his family and friends are great people and instructors. My buddy and I had a fun and informative training time with them last year. God Bless.
I knew I recognized that particular river sand.
Ben!! Hey Ben we have met several time up at Dirtdaze in New Hampshire helped set up the course each year for your classes. Hope to see you this year as well. Bret!! You should come this year??!!!??
Great video Men. Adv for life!!
Hey!
Looking forward to another year at TTDD!
Good advice but realistically how often will you find that much sand on the way to Starbucks? Lol.
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And we are completely ignoring the fact that we are probably not be riding the best adventure bikes from brands such as ducati & bmw & the likes on the way to starbucks. 😂
@@asadujjamannur101 cries on XT 600 🤣😅
Now you can go to a Starbucks on the beach!
This comment will brake hearts and some will cry in boxer engine oily tears.
Great tips for sand. Just spent the past weekend in the Borrego, CA sand. The more reps, the easier it gets. Practice, practice, practice. Thanks for the post.
I must’ve watched hours and hours of motorcycle reviews on UA-cam but this is the most objective, well presented review I’ve ever watched. King regards from Barcelona!
Great info and love the interjections of humor! That is what it is all about. Having fun in challenging environments. Very enjoyable guys!
Cheers!
Guys this video was so informative and so funny at the same time! I'm pretty sure you had lots of fun shooting it. You make me feel like been there with you! Please more!!!
The new thing is “Taking a GS nap” lmao. The boys and their sandbox toys.
Man, I‘ve been riding GSes for about 20yrs now but it never came to my mind having a nap on it 😂👍
Thanks for the video even I will avoid sand like this
Thank you for the instruction and entertainment!! Not only did I learn, I had a good laugh!! Thanks so much!!!
Great video and really appreciate the comedy thrown in 😂
Humor sells and you guys nailed it with the out-takes. Excellent instruction from ya'll.
Thanks for the tips
Thank you so much for all of you such a useful, important tips for bike riders. Greetings from Nepal !!!
Useful video with fun!
Just an amazing video!
Thank you!
Paul I love You and Your strategy. You change my world of adventure riding :) I will always wait for correct moment. Idea not now, but maybe later is great :) Greetings from Poland guys! Best for You!
Awesome demonstration. I definitely learned a few important things on getting unstuck.
Great humour guys, it helps to remind us of what your actually teaching 😊
Glad to see you rockin' a DX, it's a special bike indeed.
The scene with the guy sleeping on the bike was so good lol I learnt a lot and now use my bike as a bed too . Thanks and also thanks for the real advice. You guys have taught me a lot through the years. Sorry for the bad spelling I had to try to fix some of it lol
Bretty, your vids are awesome 👍🏽
nicely presented and executed
Thank you kindly!
I've used brush/branches sometimes rocks found in the area to provide traction
Paul. I’m right there with your old man. Nothing wrong with an afternoon nap. Great job as always guys keep up the good work and the good laughs.
I love your content. It gives me hope in learning how to adventure, once I get the himi I want lol
Great video, all the quirky side jokes made me smile 👌🏻. Having fun, riding bikes 👌🏻
Humorous and entertaining to watch, on every level. Also, informative! - never take a motorcycle anything like these, anywhere like this. LOL.
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@@BretTkacs btw, your little sand village? 🤣🤣🤣
3 good approaches ... thanks.
This was a great video!
Hysterical! When he sat on the bike. I thought the same thing "that looks comfortable I would take a nap" .
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appreciated the humor and great tips, ohhh Bret that white machine is a looker, keep up good work, cheers V!
Glad Paul was able to get his beauty rest, not that he needs it! Can't believe it's been two years since I trained with you guys. Just traded my Vstrom for a Tenere!
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Love the fun in this really usefull video
just last week i went on a 70km offroad trip and encoutered lot of sand dunes and sand paths, i got stuck many times, but one of them i had to walk by my moto while using the throttle, later learned some strategy to avoid loose sand left by 4x4 vehicules tracks bc it's too loose, undisturbed sand rocks and if you find rock or gravel paths, it's better to take them than go into sand paths
unless your motorcycle is a light minibike, after all, sand robes you of fuel and body energy and water (btw, i'm from the sahara desert)
this one was really good
nice tips....thanks
Now that was an adventure. So the definition of adventure includes being a “typically hazardous” activity, thoroughly satisfied by riding a 500 lb bike off-road at all, let alone in deep sand. Need to be in shape for that one. Recommend learning to ride sand on something more suited before trying and learning by repetition on a big bike at an advanced age.
Always great info…a nap is always good👍
amazing what a channel ❤❤👌👌
Best!
That DesertX looks great in sand
Good advice. I live in the sandbox aka Florida. Sand is pretty much all I have. Not the best place to ride big bikes.
Fascinating...
Awesome 👍🙏
Thanks!
Hahahaha...great guys!, you make me a nice morning laught!, keep that good work!
New bike day Bret? Love the Desert X!
Not yet, this one is on loan. However I am likely to end up with one 😉
Great video as always... can't wait to hear your thoughts on the Desert X. Just missed meeting you and saying hi to Bill in OKC.
Just what I was thinking. Come on Mr Tkacs give us a Desert X review man!
That'll be after removing half the bike, to get to the air filter in order to clean it :)
Great vids/instruction at Sandy Bottoms ATV
Thanks
Great video, what kind of pants is Ben wearing. Love the casual look!
Very frequently it happens not on straight terrain where you can do all these, but in narrow turn to side, interested in how to get out of this situation where you cannot really move motorcycle much and of course you cannot do full engage on second gear.
3:11 😂
Good one guys. Thanks for sharing the tips!👍
Most people take away is "avoid sand". Mine is avoid 600 lbs bike.
I have grown in sand similar to this and I never had to lean the bike on his side to get unstuck on flat ground. Even with dual sport, just a small tug with some clutch or something like the third guy did works every time.
I am not saying that this video is wrong, just that those bike seems miserable to ride
P.S: I would be curious to see how these beast respond to simply rocking them a couple of time
I got the big... gsa... I have a blast riding her on the sand and tough stuff and all the while smashing highway miles... multiple day and week trips become a hoot.
The third technique it is quite tyre dependent (good for more aggressive tyres) the first and second techniques work with street-ish tyres as well.
I disagree. Even a street tire is going to get more thrust using the third method.
That being said, a more aggressive tire will certainly yield better results.
Paul did do the 3rd technique with the Dunlop Missions. Although it won't always work with those tires.
Great! Now could you do one on rocky creek crossings? (I fell in the middle of one recently. Twice!)
Wish I had some sand tracks in my region for training. Only in the north of Germany on some patches. And not as deep as your tracks. What I could try out is some napping on the bike ;-) Cheers from Nürnberg/Bavaria, Günter
Love to see you kids roll around in the dirt!
I want to train with Paul. 💤💤🤣🤣great video💯👍🏽👍🏽
Great 👍✅
FY please make more with the three of you !
We all live in different places in the USA (Oklahoma, Idaho, Washington) but if I can I will.
Seems like limited slip all wheel drive would be really helpful in places like this.
I live in Southern Arizona have rode here for years so I think I can save my two cents on this stay on your pegs and on the gas the worst thing you can do is stop especially if you're on a heavy machine but don't let it intimidate you you'll learn how to ride in it now I fly through it like it's nothing
I thought Paul was going to steal the Ducati!
DID you know after a rain the sand on the sunny side of the hill dries faster than the nice damp sand on the not sunny side? I inspected the dry sand and the sky a couple times as I tumbled to a stop. I inspected some more as I wrassled my bike upright onto it’s wheels. I then got online to research what oil...
Been there a while since the motor is cool enough to sleep on.
Great video. Really enjoying the course in GA this weekend.
Hey I've been there to that exact location....I cracked three ribs there...haha!!! So much fun...great stuff!!!!
The whole time I was watching this I kept thinking to myself, "That looks like the Canadian River. As short and jacked up as the trees are and as sandy as that area is, that has to be Oklahoma" Then Bill said he was out of Norman. Nailed it. I'm not sure an ADV riding school is enough to make me come back to OK, even for a visit. Terrible place.
No matter where you go, you’ll find what you’re looking for
Paul is a very funny guy...))
Rode the sands in my Desert X on stock tires already and not sure if I agree that the traction control will not help you in this situations. For a short sand crossing your technique might work but you cannot do that for sever Km's... I found myself preferring to reduce the horse power like using Enduro mode for example but keeping the traction control on would allow me to keep going foreword without burying the rear tire. Moreover because by being an unexperienced rider the electronic help from the bike really makes a diference.
When I first Crossed snad on At with TC on it stalled the engine . It may be different for other bikes but imho it's better to turn it off
Time conquers all
Some of those clutch technics could be used on steep switchbacks.
yes do not wrestle or fight the sand.. that's why I don't ride on sand very much 😊
I've been wondering whether to turn off traction control when riding on sand or gravel. From this video it looks like yes I should if riding in deep sand so that the rear wheel can spin. But what about shallow sand or gravel?
For me I minimize it or switch it off if I can predict changes better than the computer can react to them.
That Desert X is a sexy machine!
Yes it is!
No offense! I love Bret’s videos. The instructional videos are disconnected from the real world. When you are riding out there for hundreds of miles, are tired, and you bike gets stuck in the sand or if you drop it, you don’t have all this time and patience to dig, and think of various strategies. You naturally want to lift the bike and get out of there. Same is the case with hill climbs. Never ever we stop before the hill climb, then walk up the hill to assess what line you got to take. In reality you come around a corner and realize you got to keep going and you figure out the line on your way up. Same with down hill. Learning from videos is reading a book on how to drive a car. The best way to learn this is to attend adventure training classes with Bret or others. Take your motorbike out there, ride it drop it, pick it. That’s the only way you are going to learn. Practice practice practice
Brazil have really deep sand roads and it's annoying 😅 beside Brazil, Bolivian Andes made me tired also 😂
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His first "snore" sounded exactly like a BMW boxer twin. 🙂
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Hey Bret, you swaped the 890R for this Desert X???
Great video, great advice. Nicely done. Just one thing, you forgot the part about filling in your holes after you get out so the next guy doesn't get stuck. 😉
Keep the videos coming.
Ben did bring that up but it didn't make the final edit
Great video. One question to Ben: why starting from the 2nd gear?
You need more wheel revolutions to get out. 1st gear won't spin the wheel fast enough.
I always ride in 2nd or 3rd gear to avoid getting stuck so I disagree with his suggestion to downshift once you are clear. It is harder to get stuck in sand when going faster because the wheels stay on top.
@@briangc1972 ok, thx
My take is that too much torque just spins the wheel, overcoming any traction. Second gear and a little clutch slipping better shot of keeping tire hooked up or spinning slower than gunning it in first, which just digs the hole. On sand, the bike needs gentle forward motive force to be manageable…even slowing down!
The same thing for snow driving in a car, wheels do not spin as fast and you get a good amount of torque to drive/ride in a controlled manner. It gives you a more controlled acceleration.
Yer... ya wanna dock his pay for that rest break Brett! 😅
How to not burn the clutch in such areas?
you made me laugh so hard
“My goal is to be as lazy as possible.” Check. This I can do.
A heavy bike must not try to venture into the light bike territory.
Top. Looks like in Desert X you have Karoo 4 tyres … what is your opinion for that tyre in Sand ?! And other type of terrains ?!
Thank hounding advance
So far I am really liking them. Currently I am riding in GA mud
@@BretTkacs thank you, I already read they are good in mud, but my concern I how is in Sand :)
what they say only works in this specific type of sand they are... Ive had the bike stuck and wouldnt move forward even if I was next to it pushing.. thin sand is a whole other story
Dry bottomless sand is certainly a different story if you don't have momentum
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What's that open faced helmet ben is wearing???
I’m wearing just a cheap trials helmet from Amazon. It’s an O’Neil
Looks like you borrowed Ryan's new bike Bret!