What to Expect from Chinese Flankers in War Thunder
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- Опубліковано 6 чер 2024
- There are a lot of Chinese flankers that have been developed from their original Su-27 purchase. Of course you have the J-11, J-11A and J-11B, but you also have the J-11BG, J-15 and J-16. And those are just the major versions not the two seaters etc. There are some meaningful differences between them and their Russian counterparts as well, so lets dive in, shall we?
00:00 Intro
00:48 J-11/J-11A/J-11B
05:15 J-11BG/D/J-15/J-16
10:43 Su-30MKK/Su-30MK2/Su-35S
BGM: • ONE LAST DANCE - Epic ...
Outro Music: • Fights On - Summer Ski...
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China flankers are pretty cool
That first quad feed was crazy. Had to rewind a few times 🔥
o7 appreciate it :)
Typhoon video next please
agreed i would love to see the typhoon series
Not sure if next but I will cover it for sure
@@GeneralLee2000I’m only interested if it’s the WW2 hawker typhoon 😅
I'd love to see the SU-30MKI added to the game too, the canards make it look better imo and it has good missiles
The question is, who to add it to. The Russians don’t need it. They have a dozen Flanker variants to choose from. Britain seems like the most logical choice, especially since there’s already an Indian Jaguar in the tree. There are some who might find that distasteful, but I honestly can’t think of where else to put it.
china J16, its base on su30@@jacobbaumgardner3406
@@jacobbaumgardner3406 I'd love to have a separate tech tree, like Israel's, where you need to have Rank V or more in another tech tree to start.
Maybe they can add the MiG 29 as well for India.
@@kennethchen6692 the MKI is not Chinese, its completely illogical to put in in China.
@@acdfg3 that’d be cool, where if you have Russia, France, or Britain Rank V you can move forward.
Very good info for the Chinese Flankers, however there's a new Chinese Flanker were already made. The J-15S is the 2-seater version of the J-15 which is the only operational 2-seater Naval Flanker. There's also the J-15D, like the J-16D were a Chinese version of the Growler, the J-15D were also another Growler type Flanker without having IRST & Gun.
F-18 Hornet video?
That's coming relatively soon.
On the docket
I love these videos. Gotta be some of your best work. Can’t wait for an F-18 one when it gets released (hopefully this year)
Thanks man! I really appreciate it!
Please do a what to expect video on the Japanese as a whole, as I can count their aircraft on one hand!
(F-2A/B, F-15J, F-15DJ, and F-15J Kai.)
I'll keep that in mind :)
im excited for j11b :)
It's gonna be nuts
I really like the voice warning system on this aircraft
Nice video, i really appreciate the time took to research all this info, especially when related to WT. I would only wish you could maintain one of the tech tree cards of the vehicle being talked about found in 0:19 on screen. It may just be my ADD brain, but it's sometimes hard to remember which vehicle is being discussed. Thanks again :)
I'll keep that in mind for next time! I appreciate the compliment though, I wanted to pull my hair out trying to find info on this stuff ahaha
Thanks Lee, your content is great. I'm curious as to what your keyboard/mouse setup is (hardware & controls). Cheers mate.
I have a corsair mouse and some cheapo keyboard, can't remember off the top of my hear which model for each to be honest. The corsair does have 2 side buttons. As for controls, there's far far too many to really go over in detail, anything in specific?
I would like to give an opinion (or clarifications i guess) on this, so first of all the J11D variant never entered service and eventually it was a test bed/stop gap during the development of the J20 in case of major bumps and issues with that program, ofc since there weren't such issues the J11D never came to be. Despite that, it wasn't "useless" since its technology found its place in what eventually became the J15B.
The other point that i want to make is that technically the J16 covers more of a true multirole, it doesn't lack in Air to Air at all, it is supposed to be the main heavy slinger of missiles for the PLA but can also fully function as a strike version. I wouldn't compare it to the F15E since the latter has an air to ground role (this does not mean that the F15E cannot take on Air targets, simply its focus is ground). I would instead compare the J16D to the F15E since it loses the IRST and the gun to gain space for electronic equipment, all pointing towards a focus on ground strikes.
General Lee is underrated. For example, Really good vibez(I know it’s vague but I dont know how to describe it)
Hahaha, thanks bro :)
Very ironic that I’m researching this aircraft very soon lmao, after i finish this I only have the rest of rank 7-8 Britain and I’m done with ALL air
I was actually recently looking at the loadouts the Su-30 and Su-35 can carry and I'm just blown away by the latter supposedly being able to carry TWELVE R-77s along with 2 R-73s. I've noticed a lot of content creators have gripes with the current 16v16 air RB matches, most notably complaints like flight performance of the jet and individual skill not being as important. Though I personally don't get how going down to somewhere between 6v6 and 12v12 as we move into the Fox-3 era isn't going to make that problem worse than it is right now.
Flanker? I hardly know her!
So true!
He he, he said sim enjoyers 😏
I think the J-11b is dropping next it wouldn't make much since to drop the A since the j8f is getting PL-12. I am baseing this off of how they added the J8 and J7 series.
when are we getting the big update with fox 3s ?
I've heard from an irl f18 pilot that the j16 is more technologically advanced than the su35. Anyway, thanks for the vid
Make a video on eurofighter typhoon too pls
Eventually :)
Idk if Gaijin would agree with the BR placements it's probably not compressed enough. If it's not at least 10,000psi it's not enough. Truly a major oversight Lee.
Beyond the aforementioned egregious flaw: These are fun vids. Especially on the more obscure things like China's air force. Would be fun to do Japan maybe? Possibly simpler and not as obscure but at the same time.... most everyone really only knows the F-2. Maybe discussing why it's not "just an F-16" could work if we're just talking about it lol
TRUUUUUUUE. Also yeah, they're a lot of work but enjoyable to make. I'll consider Japan next :)
I love flankers so much
China is gonna be op if they give actual longest range fox 3
Off topic, but how long until gaijin tried to introduce the mig 25 and su 15?
hey I was in the same sim game as you (Sinai 8.7-9.7) but I realized that when you had already left lol
When do you think we'll get F-15C/D/E/EX?
Do you think we'll be seeing that sexy J-10 in game soon? Seems like it wouldn't be a bad plane for early spamraams from what I've seen
Probably in one of the fall patches, I dont see it happening this summer
It could have already come, honestly the J-10A should have come instead of the J-8F but ya know...
The J-11 ingame should get PL-12s this upcoming patch so lets seee.
did you watch the video at all
@@GeneralLee2000
The first export variant J-11's (Su-27SK's) china acquired that were untouched and remained 100% soviet were capable of using PL-12s WHICH is the J-11 we have in-game.
That is my point.
If you did mention this I missed it and that is my apologies!
could do this with every tech trees future aircraft?
Very possible :)
You should do one of these for the F18
Planned!
This is why I'm excited for the Flankers, especially Chinese Flankers, since China made proper upgrades unlike Russia.
Oh boy the repair costs are going to be like 1 mil each time lmao
just give me the su33 rip off with the chinese warning voice and im golden. also, mandatory Sim spelling for mentioning SIm
EVIL. Also yeah the Su-33 ripoff is cool
Same video but with mirages and rafales after?
Possibly?
I was under the impression that the MICA would be the best ARH missile next update, not the pl-12. Do you think they’re gonna nerf it like the magic 2 or is it just worse?
Idk, on the fox3 test pl12 was the worse and amraam the best/ most consistent. Mica was nice for close ranges tho
@@HighRiskVin the live servers, the R77 will be the best followed by the PL-12, MICA, then AIM-120A. Gaijin can’t have NATO stuff be good
MICA will be great at short ranges but when it comes to long range it is worst
@@Iden_in_the_Rain when I joined the test I was expecting the aim120a to be the worse because it's such an early missile compared to the rest, maybe they had aim120c performance? Anyway this is a russian game so we know how it will end up
@@HighRiskVplease enlighten us.
Eurofighter video please
Planned :)
@@GeneralLee2000 thankyou ❤
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Now you can stop asking me about it every stream 🤣
Wassup lee?
Yo wassup?
how dare you spread Chinese propaganda without me 😭😭😭 j10a better come next update ong
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wait shit this is anti chinese propaganda
Indeed man, J-10 with PL-8B's and PL-12's would go hard.
@@mehmetbozkurt3274 Ong it should have come instead of the J8F, could have used pl8 and aspides and added pl12s later
I need mfd screen I need mfd screen I need mfd screen I need mfd screen
Sim player
Muh Flanker
True!
I’m the 5000th viewer wow 😃
Obviously I expect 100% copypaste
Russia gave China permission to produce their own Flankers 🤦🏽♂️.
youre at least 40
chine frankels always pair with russia, ez win
Just gonna be more bs r27 spam.
I like how China actually uses ram unlike Russia which just uses paint
It's very much a money thing... it might not feel like it but Russia's economy is barely larger than China's richest province and there are two provinces in China at that scale.
@@EPsuperFanThey have different priorities, Russia typically operates within SAM Coverage, so LO isn't their top priority. China has a somewhat Western doctrine, and since they're good at stealing data it's possible for them.
China numba 1
Pin it bro
In human rights violations
Taiwan Number 1, Taiwan REAL China
No
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It's just a normal flanker with Chinese equipment, it's pretty no different in them.
weight reduction , engines and radar should make a difference
@@ferrous3262 That's what I said, it's just Chinese equipment. It's no different than a normal flanker.
@@subjectc7505 That makes them plenty different though. Modern Chinese Flankers share nothing with modern Russian Flankers except the shape of the airframe.
the missiles are different tho
both this and the su27 are insanely broken and shouldn't be in the game. the r73's are cracked op and ignore almost all flares thrown out, I have no idea why Gaijin (in all their glorious wisdom) thought pinning this thing against 11.7's was fair, but they are russian I guess, not the brightest bunch
Womp womp
This is from a guy who plays the F15
Immagine if they made the su27 flight performance accurate
Ur just bad the su-27 can’t dogfight it’s easy to kill the r73 is easy to flare
I wish war thunder never added air to air missiles, just top tier gun dogfighting
Problem with that is that one or two planes (f16 and gripen) would totally rule the entire matchmaker lol
no, that would destroy what war thunder is... we rather need a game mode for top tier of just dogfighting.