What Is The Worst Premium Tank In War Thunder?
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- Опубліковано 26 лис 2021
- The video on the worst tank in War Thunder was pretty fun to make, so doing one on the worst premium tank was a no-brainer. It's hard for Gaijin to make money if a vehicle is bad, so finding it was a little bit more interesting this time around.
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When you said ZUT-37 i felt weird. When i played it, it was brutally good on flatter urban maps.
It worked well as a medium range sniper and in a downtier it was an absolute destroyer.
I used to play it quite a lot and do well with it. It only suffered in full uptiers.
I can't remember if it was increased in BR since i played it tho.
Surprised you named it the worst, it definitely restricts you to a certain playstyle but in that small area it can perform adequately.
Can you do the best premium tank for its br if you havent already
ZUT-37 was cancelled because of the slow turret traverse
i'm curious that you didn't mentionned the Japanese 1.3 Ro-Go, have you tried it ?
You can still buy the BM-8-24
I remember killing a KV-2 frontally through turret ring penetration in the Panzerwerfer and getting called a Pay2Winner for it. That was before the Nerf, btw.
Now thats funny
I bet the kv2 was just done loading too, it always is the time of dead when you load the shot or almost load it.
Have a good one
When I got it my friends were getting up the tech tree at higher br, so I ended up going with it at 5.3 or 5.7. It was difficult but I killed many tigers and it was pretty fun overall.
Lol
@Pumciusz what tigers were u killing the panzerwerfer is German and so are the tigers with the exception of the Japanese tiger 1 and now the Hungarian tigris
@@GermanbychoiceWhen your squad has 3-4 nations you start fighting against your own nation sometimes
The BM-8-24 does have 1 use, it is quite effective against the LVT 4/40 spam at close range. Only because few tanks at low tiers can kill ithe LVT with so few shots and at the same time have really short delay between shots
Auto cannon panzer go brrrrrrr
german 75mm infantry guns loaded with HE or HEAT will also overpressure LVT-4/40s and have got a 3s reload
@@4rsh193 for real lol when I get tired of getting obliterated at upper tier I go down to 1.3 germany and spam 20mm autocannons. 1st place in every match, rarely lose. Also a good way to recoup lions.
@@Blorb137 wait till you do that at 3km reliably
Until you realise most 7mm guns can pen the LVT
Surely it’s the BM-8-24
That’s the first thing I thought
same
same
Literally the only vehicle i have ever received a "rent" for. The suffering is unreal with that thing
Ngl i did pretty well in it when it was 2.3 . 50 kills on 80 deaths
ZUT-37 is a good Tank Destroyer, its just you need to slow down on the rapid fire and treat it like a Auto loader. Had games where I got 12 kills including Air Targets. Helps that the Planes are slow at its BR
It's also nice that it's a tank destroyer or light tank with an spaa spawn cost. makes it even better.
@@saulekaravirs6585 Plus it's a good way to get low BR SPAA missions done. At such a low rank you usually have to make a choice between having a heavy gun but absolutely no armor, or some armor and a bunch of machine guns. Neither is ideal for tank hunting. The ZUT is no KV-1, but it's certainly survivable enough to pull off a good ambush.
@@Plank_Hill 100% its a ambusher
@@Plank_Hill the AB41 is better
This tank is MBT killer
Wow! It’s the Celere “Wide” Sahariano! My favorite premium ever. I got like 150 kills in 2-3 weeks. Thank you for playing my boi
Wide Sahariano vs Tall Grant
@@redstar96gr57
As cute as the Celery is, the Grant will always be the king of 2.7
@@thomasmacdonough288 Sure that isn't the Sherman with the 105?
That thing helped me through Italian low tier
@@JustAnotherRandomPersonOnline Played the 105 3 games in a row, each game an upteir, each game i fought t34s, only good when you find softer targets, not at range, and that dont know where to shoot you, and if you get downtiered. (Forgot to add, also if your heat decides to work, barely killed a T-50)
It's gotta be the BM-8-24
Definitely
We are looking for the worst, not the best one..... 🙄🙄
I would disagree on the ZUT-37, for me it's a good load of fun to play and I get a decent amount of kills with it, you just need to take your enemies off guard, pretty easy at low tiers and just aim for weak spots, 5 rounds should be all you need. It has been powercreeped out by much newer premiums, but it's still a good little tank to have some fun in.
If I'm ever feeling down I just grab the bucket-kart and go run around for a bit. just turn my brain off for a while. Funny enough I did get an air kill one time ever when someone flew straight toward me. Massive load of fun the ZUT-37 is if you aren't playing in super-serious mode. Also had some limited success ambush-brawling tanks much bigger than me.
for me ZUT 37 is just average at it tier
but it is a nice trolling tank at 8.7
If you get an ace crew on it, the traverse gets Pretty decent
Mine is still expert and sits at 7 degrees/s
not only is a good tank. Also costs less spawn points than the other tanks.
The only reason why’d you buy the ZUT-37 is the bucket.
It's actually pretty decent. It's got decent speed and it's small, and the gun has enough pen to deal with Panthers from the side
it is ivan's budget hstv-l
You get the bucket on other tanks tho.
@@Tanubtanu Not as Chad though
The KV-85 gets a bucket too and all you have to do is research it
I've test driven the BM-8-24 a few times just to marvel at the fact it can hardly even kill a panzer 2
It struggles to even kill a Puma..
I bought it during a sale just because I had spare ge, first game second respawn I had 2 B1Bis pushing spawn. needless to say I didn't even get their tracks, but they somehow struggled to pen me from the front, maybe it was the slope. Anyway point is I played 2-3 more games, got 0 kill and haven't played it since, it was nice
Used to have 28mm of pen and before that it could OHK a Sherman or T-34 from the side.
And now, is just impossible, because gajin change some things in every pz . Roof of this tanks, now just impenetrable with this rocket launcher
I'm surprised at your choices. I actually do pretty well with both of those. The ZUT-37 is a light tank with AA spawn costs. If you think if it that way, it's not that bad as a last spawn. And yes, the BM-8-14 is not very good, but It kills things surprisingly well since the Overpressure up date, just not from the front. And since it got moved down to 1.3 instead of 2.3, that has helped it quite a bit. Although, in fairness, I have not looked into the subject of worst premium on my own, so I don't have any counter offers for you. Interesting video though. Keep up the good work.
BM-8-24's rockets cant even overpressure closed top vehicles lmao
@@shark7013 I've destroyed Churchill tanks with it. Low pen does not necessarily mean bad. Unless your definition of good is high penetration. I've destroyed tanks with Over Pressure, and I've destroyed other tanks with Penetration.
@@saulekaravirs6585 they probably just J'd out
Zut37 is really quite good, it’s .50 resistant and doesn’t die to some 20mm belts, with 71mm of pen at 2.3 and small and fast body. It can pen almost every tank it fights frontally with its ap belts
@@sethmullins8346 they did not. when they blow up right away from the rockets hitting them and you get the penetration screen, it's pretty easy to tell what happened.
I never expect to do well and it still feels pretty stressful
2:20 holy smokes that turning was fast
Must be nice. I play on the Series X with a controller and the turning system for the analog sticks is so damn bad. You have to balance the analog stick in a very certain position just so it turns fast. The amount of battles I’ve lost simply because my tank was turning at 2 mph is insane. I hate the analog stick controls man 😐
I would never call ZUT-37 as a bad premium. Yes it's bad as an AA but as a light tank or tank destroyer it's pretty nice. Whenever i get the daily quest to do a kill with an "AA" ZUT is my first choice.
i once misclicked and bought Chi Ha Short Gun, when it was useless and HE were shit. Tech Support politely told me to scram. Now i use it to rest and slap some BT and lvt for shits and giggles.
Nothing better than a tiny tank that launches nukes
Gaijin does refunds but only for GE vehicles (as they already had their money from you if you have GE), you are out of luck for bundles.
It’s MUCH better now, since overpressure. It used to be 2.0 and could barely kill anything.
@@FirstDagger I said tech support refused to take away Chi Ha and return GE. And closed ticket.
It's good for high tier
I remember getting a GE discount on the ZUT and I had enough GE to buy it, so I hopped into test drive to see how good it was. I couldn't go longer than 2 seconds without saying "why does this thing even exist?"
Bucket
It's Sovjet bias, you don't understand!
@@worldoftancraft I hope this is sarcasm
@@filmandfirearms nein-njet! It'z trutht!
@@edwardkenway148 1# Reason why I bought it... The ZUT had me at bucket physics then I got good at managing it and average at 7 kills a match with it, but tend not to play it because just the amount of seal clubbing started to weigh on me.
How about the Ha-Go Commander? based off a tank so bad, they removed it from the game.
Yea, kinda sad he didnt even try that
Ha Go is useable at 1.0 it has an APHE round with enough pen to destroy a good chunk of targets it comes up against from at least the sides, it's semi stabilized, fast reload, and it is a mobile tank. I really don't think it deserved to be removed, it is usable in my experience.
Furthermore, giving it the ability to scout and making it 1.3 would make it a worthwhile premium.
The japanese tank trees existence would be 9000x better if they added interwar and ww1 tanks in a new "rank 0" and just shifted a bunch of stuff.
Theres so many interesting interwar tanks that there could easily be a whole rank made up of them, that wouldnt have to get clubbed anymore by 1940 germans.
honestly ive always thought the ZUT 37 was pretty good, as long as you play a lil ratty i tend to do pretty well, currently sit with a 3.5ish KD with it which is a lil higher then average for me.
Oh yeah, ratting. My favourite type of players
lil ratty sounds like a rapper lmao.
When I saw the Celere on your footage, I was about ready to throw hands. It's a fantastic tank and is the only reason I was able to slog through early Italy tree
Please do make a video on the absurdity of helicopter enduring confrontation. I was trying to grind my newly acquired YAH-64 in this mode. The results were as following:
my average lifespan was around 30 seconds, before a Vikhr missile collided with my forehead.
I ended up losing a couple of thousand SL, and, for 40+ minutes of doing whatever the circumstances allowed me to do, I didn`t even manage to research a quarter of one modification.
Though, I suppose, gaijin has made this mode very intentionally. Why is that? Because, the only playable helicopters here are the russian ones (obviously). They are the only one who can throw missiles at every single enemy from 8km, bullying God-forsaken AH-1Gs, Mi-24s and *ugh* poor allouettes. So, to actually do something except crying in this mode, and to actually GRIND THE HELICOPTERS (honestly, since they were added, I haven`t researched even the AH-1F), they have to pay and buy the Ka-50.
Gaijin only cares about money.
I grinded my AH1G with early game rocket spam. Dumb thing to do, but actually really fun and rewarding. Nothing better than pounding leopards with 40mm and hydra rockets
I got the zut because of a discount I got as a reward and to be perfectly honest, I disagree with this. Just treat it like an autoloader. I actually quite liked it while I was using it. It's a good ambush vehicle with its high mobility, fire rate and tap firing. The landships are all way worse vehicles than the zut.
I still remember the BM-8-24 5 kills event, I spent an hour before it started putting sellotape on my monitor as a ranging guide, first game I had was 4 kills followed by 1 kill in a respawn - I have never been more proud/happy. (The event gate you the Katuysha as a reward)
Further context: Gajin said it needed 5 kills (maybe in 1 match, I can't remember) originally but they meant 5 kills in 1 life, the ambiguity lead to thousands of support tickets so they massively lowered the requirements.
Honestly i have the zut and i find it extremely fun, the way to play it is just to full auto tanks and use the speed,
"I started with the Independent, it kinda looked sad to me"
Man, poor Independent will need therapy because of you
I struggled with the ZUT-37 when I first got it, but I think I've got the hang of it now. It's better to fire one shot at a time instead of full automatic fire unless in very close combat.
The Panzerwerfer will keep a special place to my heart - I bought it (at discount, sice it can be a bit pricy just because it's a Rocket launching vehicle) and it can be actually fun and some people will freak out when they hear those missiles launch at them.
It was a bad vehicle when the HE projectiles were lackluster in damage and was sitting at a BR of 3.0, but right now I would say it's all right. It is true it's not very mobile and it does not get amazing penetration (heavy tanks like KV-1 for example will survive pretty well against it, otherwise just aim for the turret and the blast damage will pen the roof of most tanks, T-34 included) plus the paper thin armor, but it can kill, sounds quite amazing and now with a proper gun sight you can actually aim properly (it used to lack the distance markers in gunner optics). It has an MG with great elevation, although it can fire +/- 45 degrees frontally - still, it can save you from soft targets like exposed SPAAs. It's main downside though: the reload rate in cap points once all 20 rockets are spent. It takes ages - I believe 2 minutes, to reload a full salvo of 10 rockets (another 10 are available for reload), if you move an inch the reload cicle must start again. This leaves the vehicle very vulnerable since it can't defend itself. if you move - you lose the chance to get the ammo back.
After playing for hours gaijin finally blessed me with a post match drop. I already got excited when i saw that the spin was gonna land on a 50% discount for a premium vehicle. OFC you can probably already guess what vehicle i got discounted: good ol' BM 8
4:17 I want to see you get 5 kills in it
"Such a bad tank" still continues to destroy tanks like 10 tanks
I'd really love to see a "best premium tanks to grind with for each nation" video. It'd make the slog just a little more bearable.
Weird, the ZUT has to be one of the most fun vehicles I ever got, got some aces with it at times and while being opentop, the turret is small enough for you to be fairly surviveable against strafing runs, especially if you move about
T-60: amazing and super fun
T-60 with rockets mounted to some goofy scaffolding: >:(
You’re trolling. The T-60 is awful.
@@kirishima638 T-60 is fun in some situations lmao
@@kirishima638 nah dude I’m serious. The only downside I remember with the T-60 was that the gun took ages to reload. At it’s tier, with AP ammo, that auto cannon absolutely shreds most opponents. I also remember that it’s drowning depth was kinda funky, and it could submerge up to basically the turret ring. So the only part of the tank visible is it’s tiny little turret. I have a screenshot on my Steam (same name) of my T-60 sunk to the turret with angry eyes like a turtle.
I will admit this was a few years ago, before any of the new countries asides from I think America. So I’m sure with things like maybe the early French heavies/mediums it might have trouble.
Would’ve also liked to see which is the worst rank 3-6 premium as well or the worst top tier premium
Oh, BM-8-24, i still remember 2017 event with katyusha, before they made special event battle for these things only it was incredibly frustrating to attempt to get those 5 kills in a single battle
The old event challenge of getting 5 kills in 1 game before your free BM8 test drive expired wasn't thought out; I cheesed it in the very last game before time ran out using arcade CAS, and I'm 90% sure an arty teamkill counted as my 5th
is it just me or did you edit ghpc audio in with the gameplay? amazing.
I remember the event for the BM-13 (wish I had kept that coupon...), before they introduced the new shell penetration formula. I faintly remember killing a Matilda with the BM-8-24, and if I still remember correctly, it was the last kill I needed for the 13N.
i love the subnautica sound in the background lol
You know what makes them better tho? The brand new Spookton decal!
Hey for the next vid you should do the best premium because I’d love to hear your recommendations and best value for price tank
You forget that the ZUT-37 has a battle bucket (also that the front plate is T-80 thickness and actually bounces rounds but the bucket is more important)
Love the subnautica background music
Yeah i didnt think there was a UA-cam that did make war Thunder content this is so cool
When the BM-8 came out the thing was really good. You definitely had to place rockets in the correct places because the pen was still not that great. But at the BR, you could get 5-7 kills with it if you ambushed from the flanks. Now it's so bad that you can shoot open tops and still not kill them. I've shot inside the crew compartment on a marter and it lived.
Spookston has been sponsored by apex more times then I’ve got kills in war thunder
I love the subnautica music in the background
Every gold box reward I got for the longest time were BM-8-24 test drives. I wish I could take all the free backups off it. The fact you can't aim the rack down and the chassis is the T-60 with that awful rocking chair suspension makes it painful in the current meta of time traveling OP wagons.
The event you mentioned, if you played it in arcade the kills with spawned planes counted, so it wasn't that hard.
Omg that rain tho
It looks so gooooood
Why was the sponsorship so perfectly timed lmao
I remember the BM-8-24 kill chalenge. I was so happy i jumped out my chair when i won the chalenge and got the katusha. Wish i hadnt redemed the tank becuse it probly sells for allot. but its a realy fun tank to play
I think the BM-13N is technically worse than the BM-8-24 as the 13N has 2 crew, is a truck, has a gun *DEPRESSION* of +8 and has a bad engine, machine guns can wipe your crew and you only have 31mm of pen with 8 rockets
You're much faster and the rockets are far far better than the bm 8 24
I love my katyusha. Plus it has hydraulics and you can drop the nose down. You're right about machine guns though
"Only 31mm of pen" that Is almost 4x of what the BM-8-24 can pen.
Also the BM-13 has hydropneumatic suspension which makes it objectively better in every way possible.
The thumbnail is just like “who’s that pokemon”. And I am proud to say I guessed right
What??? The ZUT 37 is awesome! First premium I ever got it and was always effective for me when I was new to the game.
You broke my heart dissing on the ZUT
I actually really like to the German rocket tank
I only had it for a day because I got it as a rent vehicle out of a crate but when I had it it was great especially if you're on a map with good cover at one of the actives cos you can just sit there reload every time you run out of ammo when kill anything that comes near you
If anybody wants the crew voice spookston has its the GHPC crew lines on WT live.
I love the BM-8-24... I use it sometimes in top tier to shoot down helicopters
I wish the Katyusha event will come back as it probably is easier to get at least 3 K with the BM-8-24 due to having more paper thin armor.
ZUT-37 is a beast. Love it to death in my 2.7 lineup.
I will keep this in mind
I'm very surprised there was no mention of Ro-Go.
Absolutely the bm8. I did a3 hour stream with that thing for the memes and only managed one or two lucky kills. That thing is abysmal.
Everytime spookston says "if your looking to upgrade" it sounds like hes saying "if youre looking upgrade"
Surprised that katyuszka (or whatever they called it) isn't on the spot. It's literally a truck with rockets which cant fire at either long or short range
I thought the worst Canon Vehicle was gonna be the ALMIGHTY Ro-Go.
It's clearly the best vehicle to learn how to range your enemies at close range.
I’d say both the Ro-Go and Nb.Fz. are worse than the ZUT-37.
@@EagleKai I regret nothing more than acquiring the nbfz
Bruh you remind me the mission event to get the katyusha rocket launcher :'0c
I actually completed the misión...before they made an special mode for it where you could only face the same bm 8
Me the entire video: don't say t-35, don't say t-35, don't say t-35, don't say t-35.
1:10 i lost it laughing, "....the first i tried to get a refund for"
that in itself sounds like an interesting video(s)
The Katyusha has to be on this list somewhere. Terrible pen, not enough explosive yield to overpressure, can only fire forward, 0 degree of depression so if a tank is within 20 meters you’ll sometimes shoot over it. Horrible vehicle
Like the subnautica music in the background
I actually did all right in the ZUT...even killed a few planes. Mind you I used a 150 crew and Expert and Ace XD The LVT 4/40 is going to 3.0 anyway (Would have preferred it to be 2.7 but oh well) it needed the move to break up the 2.3 line up of death with the B1ter
it needs 3.3 imo
@@lalad0 at 3.0 it faces tanks it cannot pen anywhere - any of the KVs, T34s it can only side shot low, Shermans side shot, Churchill through its MG port. Anything with HEAT can kill it in 1 hit
@@jyralnadreth4442 tbh I'd Remove it completely, low br = completely OP and too high br means useless. I've been grinding the Swedish lately, and the first 2 weeks of the BP I practically could J out of the French were in the enemy team as they always were level 100 veterans trashing on all my team and bullying everyone. And when they were on my side they were taking all the kills and I couldn't get to have any kills pretty much. This tank means so much pain for me I just wish they remove it
@@lalad0 only the su 122 bias can kill it at 2.3
@@GENERICNICK-kj4lm Any 75mm firing HEAT can kill it in 1 shot...The Ro Go, the NBFz, the T35, the M8 Scott etc etc etc -they are all lower than 2.0. Now it needed to move to break up the OP lineup at 2.3 with the B1's...but its not undefeatable.
Spookston are you ever gonna talk about the italian m60 premium tank? Its a really forgotten tank right now and i feel like noone talks about it
This will be helpful
Love the subnatica music!
What do you thinks the worst event vehicle?
katyusha truck sounds like a nice start.
@@MetalX34 worst non-rocket?
The stdkfz with the 37mm pea shooter. Literally no reason to play it.
I play the Independant from time to time and purchased it mostly for its unusual look and the guilty pleasure of playing a bizarre inefecient tank most of people will laught at... and it perfectly reachs the goals ^^
I purchased the RO-GO for the same exact reason and it also works well in that sense.
Interesting… last time I played it the BM-8-24 seemed pretty fantastic. Can’t remember what the rockets penned back then, but they were very reliably killing whole teams
I noticed you featured the Celere Saharino early in the video, what’s your opinion on that? I personally own the vehicle, but I am curious on what your thoughts are.
I know you can’t really do the same idea twice in a row, but maybe the worst premium for every tier? Both of these were low tier, but I’m curious what would be the worst for the other tiers
Hey Spookston, can you cover an old Gaijin entertainment game called X-blades?
4:18 this thing is GOATED in Enlisted, you can kill sooo many infantry with it
i got a bm-8-24 test drive about a year ago or so
it was funny enough to be fun, lol
As a Naval player, I think the USS Welborn C. Wood is the worst premium.
It’s a copy paste of the USS Litchfield.
But both have 4, dinky 4-inch cannons with a slow reload, no aa, the cannons don’t get aa rounds, poorly placed torpedo tubes, weak torpedos, a bad rangefinder, mediocre speed, low crew/survivability.
+
Naval compression has it facing exponentially better destroyers, it can’t stop any plane bombing or rocketing it, and it can’t protect itself from fast torpedo boats either. Therefore, it is literally useless against any kind of threat in naval besides a small gunboat (unless they disable your guns first, then u still lose).
The only thing is benefits from is the strong US aircraft that can complement it, but GL even getting enough points for them.
It’s honestly not even worth the ≈ $2
After watching the PhlyDaily video I already knew the answer here
U make my day
Well, in Test drive, the Panzerwerfer even kills T-44 from the front if aimed right
The subnautica music on the background 🥰
The A1E1 independent definitely has it’s flaws.
so I am curious for ppl reading this comment, whats worst premium tank you have bought and what is the best ? For me worst Ro-Go ( mostly bought it because it has a funny name and its a japanese heavy tank ) and best is Chi-Ha Short Gun ( bought it because it has a ridiculous gun and its kind of funny looking )
Best is my AVRE, I have entirely too much fun in that thing. I had been playing for years before I got it, and it very quickly afterwards became my top lion earning vehicle.
Crew aced long ago, and it doesn’t leave my UK lineup at all once BR allows it in.
Worst would be the Black Prince.
Churchill armour competing with guns that laugh at it and a top speed that can be outmatched by quadruple amputees.
The gun is ok, but doesn’t make up for / excuse the rest of the vehicle. It’s like driving a less lethal Maus without any of the armour.
For the record, I do have the rocket vehicles featured in this video. I don’t field those expecting them to accomplish anything, they’re just to muck around in. So essentially they don’t count by my reckoning
Could you do a best of in every nation?
worst is the black prince imho. When they introduced the heatfs at that br, and lowered some bigger tanks, that thing is pretty useless. It should be 5.0
now this idea is fun. right then spooky ill give ye a challenge.
pick the worst tank for the following roles:
Heavy Tank
Light Tank
Tank Destroyer
SPAA
Medium Tank
[Optional:]
Infantry Tank
Cruiser/Cavalry Tank
Specialized Tank [this can vary from a complete glass cannon to a support vehicle like the Centurion AVRE]
if you decide to take on this challenge i wish you the best of luck
can you do a teir list of you favorite tanks all time for low mid and high pls :D
the zut back then was fun and still is i never complain about that thing its funny when you can sneak up to people and shoot 5 rounds in to there but
Disagree on ZUT-37
Penetration was okay when I last time played the game. If you don't hit, pen, kill crewman or damage any components you have second, third, fourth and fifth shot to do it.
Also, I consider it as light tank, not AA. And spawn cost as AA is great asset to have.
Ofc you have to adapt gameplay to it a bit, but if you want, you can get decent amount of kills.
Fun to play, fast, quick reload, okay pen, armor can stand most 20mm cannons for some time
i have a plane kill with te BM-8-24
and i use it higher tiers where the germans have the open SPGs it works wonders on them
the panzerwerfer is weak yes, but extremly fun to use
My friend actually does really well (in arcade) with the BM-8
I'd love the panzer rocket thingy since I love German half tracks. Edit:on Xbox the BM-8 is Available for golden eagles