As a Vehicle Dynamics Engineer at River, I feel very proud to see Indie coming to life and Shumi being honest about the scooter’s review!🤩 Can’t wait to see Indie hustling on Namma Bengaluru💛❤️ streets🔥
This is just the beginning.. You guys have the product which easily trashes every other product in the whole Scooter world.. Congratulations once again
Just pure fun and excitement to see companies like River working on a purpose filled product aimed to deliver and not just tryna participate the bandwagon and playing the spec sheet wars
One of the best videos in this series. When Shumi is happy with the product, the jokes come thick and fast 😅. My own feeling about the Indie is exactly as Kartikeya. I love the quirky design, kinda looks like Wall-E. And the fact that Shumi was hard pressed to find a fault speaks for itself. This happens when the creators are absolutely clear in their mind about what they want their product to do, and cut no corners. Even the fact that they are aware of the areas of improvement, and are already working on them is simply remarkable. Kudos to the founders of River. The Indie is now the top contender for whenever the time comes to replace the Wego. And Shumi, that Indiana Jones pun was terrible. You should be proud! 😂😂
I really like this product, the utilitarian design philosophy well designed If they price it correctly, it can be way better than old ather ir iqube even for family use Range seems good too
@@motorinc i wish too, although i have no plans for ev or anything but river actually feels like somethings businesses cam buy and use to hearts content
I asked for the River Indie review and you made a half hour video on it. Thankyou ❤ I booked this scooter in early days of launch in Yellow colour. Will name it as Bumblebee 😅
There's something with that dual pod headlights that catches my attention! They look breathtaking! Its just like the popup up n down headlights for cars! CBR 900, ZX-7, R1, Ducati 916, 959, R15 uptill V3! And now River Indie! 👌🏻
Omg I dint even realize how the 34.10 min went until you they said thats it..Amazing one.. never seen such Geninue conversation/opinions discussed and the facial expressions and body language says it all... Am one among pre booked customers and so into it and waiting for my number to block it with down payment..Jus got an update that 23rd to 28th they have announced down payments dates for those pre booked from Feb to Aug respectively. May be by Oct end we may get delivers I would feel.. Too much exited..
Loved how ignorant K was in this video, like an eager school boy, listening, grasping and yes at times even surprised. This was fun. Great review by Shumi.
Seldomn seen Shumi this happy & excited for a new product. That is a testament of how good of an electric scooter the River Indie is. Really rooting for the EV segment to pick-up for the scooter market in India. Question though, with a utilitarian focus of this product, the more weight that is piled on, the lesser it's range would be even in eco mode. Big boxes or panniers jutting out from the sides will impact aero and thus hinder the range. Where do we draw the line when we start saying that the limitations of such a vehicle start become larger than its utility?
Great video Motorinc! Just one suggestion, try adding more clips of the vehicle. A lot of times you’re talking about something, I expect to see a video or photo about it but nothing! Like when you talk about how the mirrors need improvement and they’re too far apart. I wanted to see them too!
Great video as always! Do you think this can be a good commuter vehicle for office goers? I am visualizing the laptop and lunch bags can be kept in the front while the helmet goes into the underseat storage (while parked).
I have the aprilia sr 150 first generation. The suspension was harsh and jittery back then. But over the years, they have improved on it. I have changed the rear suspension a few years back and now it feels comfortable and pliant. I would suggest that you take a look at the latest models and make an opinion about them.
Sir I want to buy a hero vida because of the removable batteries. I really want your review of it please 😊. Once Schumi says it's good then only I will buy it.
As reviewers, one must look at Li-ion battery chemistry, battery life cycle and cost of replacement. Also review and talk about the electric motor and Battery management system, and motor controller. Majority of Indian e-scooter manufacturers import battery, motor, BMS, and motor controllers from China and assemble the rest in India. This leads to issues with poor quality BMS or circuits that burnout and one can’t get replacements - which results in scrapping the entire scooter. So informing potential customers about these details will help people in choosing the right bikes.
I like da idea of large capacity... Rugged scooter dat does wats its designed to do... I m just concerned about wether its compatible with public charging networks
After the ever so hotly contested scooter market and the competition to the Activas of the days, it's now on with the e-scooter segment.. innovative products, design and performance, all getting tougher contestants by the day.. Guru Shumi has a lot on his hands in the coming months 😊
21:34 what were you thinking Kartik? I was waiting for this First impression. The product looks awesome. Hope they figure out the production and convert good ideas into cash. Ever thought about investing in these companies?
Ideal for delivery boys. Not for office rides! It’s too ugly for teenagers/college students. If priced right, this could potentially replace TVS-XL in rural markets
I love the analogies in these videos. It's like....2 mature kids arguing in a (well lit) dorm room, and we the students are just wowing at each other😂❤
I watched your entire video and test drove it today. My impressions are as follows: 1. It is built rugged and well equipped and as Shumi said, it is a bit rough around the edges 2. Suspension is really good with a better ride quality than the Ather Rizta (which I test drove today as well) 3. Loads of space for luggage and therefore a utilitarian vehicle 4. Console is very simple and no unwanted info being displayed on it as a distraction 5. Handling is easy and yet riding comfort is good 6. Lastly the vehicle glides over potholes and bumps with ease with the 14" wheels and better suspension. On road price is 1.43L in Bangalore
Being someone who resides in Bengaluru, I feel proud that our city is gaining this kind of appreciation in creating something that stands by it's purpose. Hoping that they can get the price right so the scooter can reach in all directions of the nation. Love listening to both & love how Shumi explains stuff. Love from Bengaluru!♥♥ Also love Nandi Hills!
I am glad you guys covered this bike. Was looking forward to it. This one looks really promising. No dram just get the work done and get it done perfectly..! ❤
The expression on Kartikeya's face every time he has taken a back about different aspects of the scooter is priceless. And its so surprising to see Shumi is so bloody happy about a scooter without any of his honest jokes. And this speaks a lot. This itself is a huge achievement for River Indie. Congratulations on this team River. Waiting for the video after Shumi does his full test of this scooter.
R - Red Y - Yellow B - Black, three most distinct and fundamental color in electrical engineering informing the Live, Neutral and Earth connection used in every concept. they are not trying to Hide the Electrical part of the Vehicle either.
Wow, I have never seen Shumi sir so optimistic about a product, I am sure River is going to do awesome. Thanks Motorinc for building such beautiful content. i absolutely love this format of review.
I purchased one and own it now for 3 months... 1500 kms done. So those here to Make a decision, summary : Excellent response, acceleration (ride mode is best, rush makes it a rocket) Boot space is awesome Eco mode is not usable ( acceleration is slow - overtaking is painful) No tech hang ups- key, no mobile app, no touchscreen, I love it coming from access 125 Seat can be more comfortable (lower in front, broad at the back) Mileage in city ride(ride mode) is 80kms (should have been more even for city riding) Rear seat comfort less (foot pegs position) All in all everything is deal maker, excellent throttle response (miles better than Ola) other than 80 kms mileage and seat comfort, it is worth buying
I just love the way you guys interact, I mean I am a faculty in a design school and I have soo much to learn from you Shumi, as the way you speak and your command over the language. It just holds the environment, very few people can do this (either THEY will be too excited on the screen or sounding too deep) your voice modulations are just perfect. Sorry for such a long comment, I hope you read it though. ❤❤
I have purchased from Bangalore 2 months before with 1000 km drive. All are sharing positive info. So not covering all positives Pls find only cons 1) front side suspension is very hard. You can find vibration in your hands heavily 2) front side box lock quality is very bad 3) display battery and KM value is not exactly match. Some issues are there is software 4) reverse mode switch is bid hard. 5) mirrors are very small. Not visible to backside vehicles 6) if you park is slope area , there is no hill hold assistant... We need to press the brake always.. we always find up and slope roads... Not sure on Chennai roads.. 7) ride mode - max 85 km range only.. 8) extra 2 years warranty - 6k to be paid 9) many of the accessories are not available - out of stock always 10) Software issues in speedometer 11) Ride mode gives only 88 km, eco mode is not feasible to drive.... Eco mode is 100 km only .. 160 km range is misleading information.
I like river’s clarity. They went with simple screen, but they left space for phone mount. And, indirectly there will be two screens in front of you, one for maps/calls and one for odometer. I can conclude that its well planned product!! 👍🏻👍🏻
Do you know/remember that there used to be cricket in the radio - by the way of commentary? No visual only sound. Experience cricket via Radio? - You experience the ride/thrill/joy/fun of vehicle, but you convey it in explanation. Imagine, manufactuers inviting you and give you same experience. Its not that Shumi's explanation is bad, One of the best it is - PERIOD. - But lack of visual, creating bad visual experience. I know there could have been a reason, you chose this mode. But, when there is a new excitment in the market, this is not my cup of tea! I'd like to see the vehicle in action not a discussion. Or the discussion could be made more actionable. Bhai, this is your channel, your decision. This is just my opinion, Just wanted to share my opinion as I have been following you for several years. I will keep following you and keep liking your videos though. Have a nice day!
Thanks for sharing your perspective, PK! We're working on many things and solving many things from zero and we're aware that not everyone will like all the solutions.
Hmmm,,, as a car analogy, this sounds like River made a sporty, great handling version of the wagonR. This could be the go almost anywhere, do anything, worry-free electric scooter for our bad roads, and it can take a load of work in its stride. Interesting. And that Indie Anna Jones could be the perfect scooter for the confident college girl! The black Indie Anna would be for the big brother, though. 😀
Shumi! Kartikeya! It felt just like we did talking shop off the sands near Jaisalmer at the Classic launch. You guys look so proper and grown up. But still the childlike curiosity and enthusiasm. First, congratulations on your media venture. You two are a rare kind of trust-worthy. Second, was a delight hearing about how you discovered the honesty of the Indie. I have had the pleasure of being a sounding board to Vipin & Aravind. They humor me and tolerate most of the unsolicited gyan. Mostly, I am grateful to have a ringside seat as they create. Thank you for looking at River with curious eyes. And hope that you stay engaged with them. Also, watch- one day, much like it does in Thailand, trucks are going to be the sexy thing ( even if you never haul a thing) in India. By then you guys will have much less hair like me. Venki
When I first saw this video post, I just didn't bother checking it cause I didn't hear much about the brand. Today, during my drive back from work in peak Bengaluru traffic, I realized this was the only of MotorInc that I haven't watched yet and I am as surprised as much as Shumi seems to be about the Indie. Definitely going to check one out soon.
The day I saw the Indie, I knew it had the potential to be my family's everyday workhorse. Unfortunately, it isn't available in Jamshedpur. But I guess, by the time it comes here, the company should have ironed out most of its nagging issues. And yes, I want a big a$$, workhorse, scooter. ❤❤😍😊😊
The design options are excellent and everything is well executed. What pinches is the initial price of approx. 1.5L and the battery swap cost after say 5-6 years of about 60K-65K which is nearly 50% of on road cost at purchase time. Considering depreciation of 14% per year after 5 years the price of the scooter itself is 70,500. So the battery cost after 5 years (when no warranty is available) is 92% of the scooter cost which is crazy. These economics eventually equate an ICE engine scooter and ICE scooters have better resale value anyday. EV scooter makers should bring in a good buyback and upgrade scheme to attract and retain customers. Until then ICE scooters wins irrespective of whatever gimmicks that EV scooter can offer Alternately we need to build a mindset of buying a iPhone Pro Max when buying an EV scooter. Its obsolete after 5-7 years. So just discard it... Yikes... one just cant build this mindset when purchasing an EV Scooter
I hope this turns out as promising as it sounds. The main take away was Honesty. Pick metaphor comparison is bang on. Really a fascinating prospect. I hope they roll it out PAN India soon.
Would making the rear wheel a 12 inch one be a better option to give more space for the boot. Another thing they can work on is using the similar charging port/structure as Ather/Hero Vida, as they are already widespread.
12" would release more space but that would also affect ride and dynamics so a lot of re-tuning would probably be needed. Fully agree on the second point, a standard/interoperable charger would be very welcome!
I am currently in the process of getting a Speed Triple RS and selling off my Duke 390. And with my Xpulse with the rally kit and it's daily troubles it gives me with something or the other, I was looking at getting a EV to reduce the maintenance stress and get stuff done in town, while lugging around my work gear, and this one sounds really promising. Because I had no interest in a sporty scooter. I don't look at a scooter and think sporty. I wanted it to do it's job and the Ola and other stuff were just not right. Maybe soon, I can get this. That'll be nice.
You want to reduce maintenance stress and yet buy a Speed Triple RS ??????????? 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 You might as well have your last bright / expensive Diwali this year 👅😂
@@rscsingh7848Haha, I understand what you mean. I meant instead of having 3 things to maintain, I want to get an EV, so only 2 things to regularly maintain. But the idea of the Triumph is not because it's so maintenance free. It's pure emotion and love. Don't care what comes with that. I just don't want to bother with splitting that stuff into the 3 vehicles when I already do 2 motorbike maintenance. And the Xpulse is the worst of them all. That thing basically gives me trouble everytime I take it out on a trail.
Exactly that pick-up truck ownership point hit me, even after the video ended, im searching for a reason to justify buying this 😅 like i don't have a business or something, but somehow I'm feeling so much satisfied hearing out about this vehicle that i wanna buy it but don't know why i should do 😅😅 at first i thought to ask how does it compare to activa or Jupiter or iqube, but that pick up truck sedan context put me off guard 😅
Honestly, don’t really need all that “smart” features. Both Ola and Ather are really struggling to provide a good software experience. Too many bugs, too many unusable features. And now that Ather has put these behind a pay wall, I promptly stopped using them and my life hasn’t changed a bit. I am so excited for Indie. 🤞
There are people who want the features and there are those who don't. The paywall makes sense and it is good that customers who don't want the features can opt out. The Indie has a clear cut customer in mind and it is clever of them to not offer complicated and sometimes unreliable features.
This feels exactly like watching the malayalam(or "Manglish" 😄) youtube channel 'Talking Cars', but in English (It's unfortunate that the Talking Cars channel stopped uploads). Beautifully flowing conversation between 2 friends which gives us a lot of information instead of walking around the vehicle by giving the information available on brochures. Dear MotorInc, please never change or stop this format.
Great video. Great analogies. As always great watching your content. Off topic from this video, will there be a video of this nature or a review of new bullet 350 from shumis perspective? I know you love the classic 350 and this is very much the same but something, anything please do create a video. If you have already done on other platforms then perhaps a link here would be really appreciated.
River logo below the screen is a good suggestion however they could have given a mobile stand also for navigation. It is a serious competition to Ola because of its practicality. Indie is good for picnic, camping, hobby classes and sports activities. It is not just for delivery boys but it is going to be popular among youth also.
After Ather, River seems to be another promising EV company from India, in our huge EV market flooded with subpar products (including the Spanish Hello). Indie seems to be like a fantastic workhorse product that can also double as a lifestyle product, like the previous gen Thar or the old Mahindra Jeep. I hope River will evolve this platform and bring out more products from it, like an ADV version or a step-through/maxi scooter or a powerful performance scooter (like the Aerox or TVS X).
"I've consistently cherised listening to Shumi and Karthik, and I'm eagerly anticipating a ride on the River Indie. As a passionate Bengaluru-based biker, the excitement is palpable!"😅 @Shumi, it's always a pleasure to hear your candid and highly practical, no-nonsense reviews that get straight to the point.
Here is my take on it With all the accessories mounted on it i felt like it looks more or less like a himalayan (the feel of travelling not the specs or built) and mostly would cater campers and travellers It also reminded me of Honda scooters and bikes (Japanese versions) 1) The first thing i felt is the ground clearance, speed breakers are huge at some place, my struggle with tvs xl exhaust has made me realise this the hard way 2) Accessories : Should be affordable a tool box would be an added advantage, i also want some mounts to add rain protection gear like Sepal so that i can travel in rain 3) The glove box cover seems flimsy, when i carry things i want less scratches in my bike, so a matte finish glove box cover is much needed, infact it should be a cheap replaceable accessory. 4) Matte finish - please don't forget this, also a customisable space so that i can add stickers to my scooter My suggestion would be to create a service centric support than useless dealerships, easy to repair videos, trouble shooting guides
They had me at underseat storage for a full face helmet. 😂. No really!! [Also, 14” wheels -> ❤] I absolutely LOVED their approach to the Indie. From design, utility, sense of purpose - everything. I’d seriously consider a 2.0 iteration for this or even 1.0 as soon as I’m confident the product readiness and Co has got its overall act together.
havent enjoined any other episode like this one, so practical and so much enthu in schumi sir's voice when he was explaining !!!!! Always like practical rides for day to day lets hope they can get it sometime to Pune too in the future .
This scooter is a very attractive proposition not only for small businessmen but also for the normal working-class man who has to bring a lot of stuff that is bought to restack the inventory of household supplies.
This is what engineering is, they showed it to us. It's not an aspirational product its a product that works really well. Nice. Love from Bengaluru shumi and karthikeya ❤. Saw shumi in typical kannadiga youtube channel was so excited to see if he mentions him here. Well anyway. great video.
Bingo Shumi ! Its like a vehicle made for a purpose. Only gripe is the colours are too flashy. Wouldve been amazing if it came in earthy colours. This looks like a trippy vehicle built for a hippie 😂
I am immediately getting one because the number of checkboxes it ticks are huge. No timepass touchscreens or fancy things that journalist want for no reason are not there, that makes it so much better if a bug arrives or if at all there are issues. I hope they get the service part right. Rest seems all good. Carrying loads would be so much easier.
You guys always wear light colour greyish clothes, is it like an company requirement to maintain this cool mature aesthetic? Or is it just you guy's choice?
@@motorinc just thought about it when you guys mentioned indie's bright colours. It's a brand i guess Superman comes in red and blue and motor inc comes in grey and white
I like the 14 inch wheels, but looks are disgusting. I think this company will be closed within 6 months after the introduction of Honda electric scooter.
Nice stuff. I was looking for nice 150cc to 200cc bike. Need your help on it. Requirements are mainly family usage and city commutes. Very less highway usage. Can u suggest one or do a video.
I got attracted by d design. Ok after test drive found its having a normal key not even a foldable or anything. Speedometer display look like low quality black red green colour on it. Looks normal display nothing as digital. Not even having any minute connection features like other. Atleast the display should be like advanced little. Having experience of Aerox, it feels similar feel though. U would copied aerox console atleast as yamaha invested already. More over no where metal body. Its all fiber. I was feeling fantastic to sell off my Aerox for this. Also why ABS is missed in this. Ather feels metal body.
As a Vehicle Dynamics Engineer at River, I feel very proud to see Indie coming to life and Shumi being honest about the scooter’s review!🤩 Can’t wait to see Indie hustling on Namma Bengaluru💛❤️ streets🔥
You're doing god's work, sir! And we're amped up just listening to Shumi talk about all it!!
@@loysharma Thank you🙏🏼
Kudos to you and the team, Shumi sir has blessed you guys
This is just the beginning.. You guys have the product which easily trashes every other product in the whole Scooter world..
Congratulations once again
@@aniruddhapisharody7035 We’re grateful!🙏🏼
Just pure fun and excitement to see companies like River working on a purpose filled product aimed to deliver and not just tryna participate the bandwagon and playing the spec sheet wars
One of the best videos in this series. When Shumi is happy with the product, the jokes come thick and fast 😅.
My own feeling about the Indie is exactly as Kartikeya. I love the quirky design, kinda looks like Wall-E. And the fact that Shumi was hard pressed to find a fault speaks for itself. This happens when the creators are absolutely clear in their mind about what they want their product to do, and cut no corners. Even the fact that they are aware of the areas of improvement, and are already working on them is simply remarkable. Kudos to the founders of River.
The Indie is now the top contender for whenever the time comes to replace the Wego.
And Shumi, that Indiana Jones pun was terrible. You should be proud! 😂😂
I can see why Shumi loved it so much, as there's one thing the River Indie does very well, and that's utility.
You guys are best in the business, no extras but only proper information ❤
Thanks Vamsi!
I really like this product, the utilitarian design philosophy well designed
If they price it correctly, it can be way better than old ather ir iqube even for family use
Range seems good too
Finger crossed that the road test goes as well as the first ride has gone for River
@@motorinc i wish too, although i have no plans for ev or anything but river actually feels like somethings businesses cam buy and use to hearts content
I asked for the River Indie review and you made a half hour video on it.
Thankyou ❤
I booked this scooter in early days of launch in Yellow colour. Will name it as Bumblebee 😅
There's something with that dual pod headlights that catches my attention!
They look breathtaking! Its just like the popup up n down headlights for cars!
CBR 900, ZX-7, R1, Ducati 916, 959, R15 uptill V3! And now River Indie! 👌🏻
Omg I dint even realize how the 34.10 min went until you they said thats it..Amazing one.. never seen such Geninue conversation/opinions discussed and the facial expressions and body language says it all...
Am one among pre booked customers and so into it and waiting for my number to block it with down payment..Jus got an update that 23rd to 28th they have announced down payments dates for those pre booked from Feb to Aug respectively.
May be by Oct end we may get delivers I would feel..
Too much exited..
Awesome! We hope you get your delivery soon! And do let us know how your River experience turns out to be Sri!
It is such a pleasure hearing you both chat. Thank you for doing this ❤
Glad you enjoyed it!
Glad you enjoyed it!
I have always loved Isuzu v cross n Toyota Hilux. This scooter got my attention now 😊.
Loved how ignorant K was in this video, like an eager school boy, listening, grasping and yes at times even surprised. This was fun. Great review by Shumi.
Seldomn seen Shumi this happy & excited for a new product. That is a testament of how good of an electric scooter the River Indie is. Really rooting for the EV segment to pick-up for the scooter market in India.
Question though, with a utilitarian focus of this product, the more weight that is piled on, the lesser it's range would be even in eco mode. Big boxes or panniers jutting out from the sides will impact aero and thus hinder the range. Where do we draw the line when we start saying that the limitations of such a vehicle start become larger than its utility?
This was such an awesome podcast ❤ Though I was secretly hoping we have one odd reference to the Ktm 390 or the RE classic though 😅
The Analysis just flowed like a River -Indi. Beautiful story telling by you guys. Reviews can be done without screaming too ! Superb.
Great video Motorinc! Just one suggestion, try adding more clips of the vehicle. A lot of times you’re talking about something, I expect to see a video or photo about it but nothing! Like when you talk about how the mirrors need improvement and they’re too far apart. I wanted to see them too!
Can it be bought as a daily commute to ride about 60 kms to & fro.
I was waiting for Karthik bro to ask "does this float on river?".. just to make shumi say no to at least one thing😂
Great video as always! Do you think this can be a good commuter vehicle for office goers? I am visualizing the laptop and lunch bags can be kept in the front while the helmet goes into the underseat storage (while parked).
Kindly make video on Jeep Compass 4x2 variants. And your thoughts about 4x2 worth to buy or not.
I have the aprilia sr 150 first generation. The suspension was harsh and jittery back then. But over the years, they have improved on it. I have changed the rear suspension a few years back and now it feels comfortable and pliant. I would suggest that you take a look at the latest models and make an opinion about them.
Thanks for letting us know! Can do!
Sir I want to buy a hero vida because of the removable batteries. I really want your review of it please 😊. Once Schumi says it's good then only I will buy it.
As reviewers, one must look at Li-ion battery chemistry, battery life cycle and cost of replacement.
Also review and talk about the electric motor and Battery management system, and motor controller.
Majority of Indian e-scooter manufacturers import battery, motor, BMS, and motor controllers from China and assemble the rest in India. This leads to issues with poor quality BMS or circuits that burnout and one can’t get replacements - which results in scrapping the entire scooter. So informing potential customers about these details will help people in choosing the right bikes.
it's a premium vehicle over to TVS XL100.. this is how i can put this up overall.. so when you say want to put it on test, rival it with XL100
I like da idea of large capacity... Rugged scooter dat does wats its designed to do... I m just concerned about wether its compatible with public charging networks
After the ever so hotly contested scooter market and the competition to the Activas of the days, it's now on with the e-scooter segment.. innovative products, design and performance, all getting tougher contestants by the day.. Guru Shumi has a lot on his hands in the coming months 😊
Sir ji indor sher me ye kab lanch hogi sir pilzz bato muje lena hai yrr
What about live tracking like iQube?
Reminds me of the Santro when I saw it in flesh for the first time. Oh God.. The same quirkiness I sense.....
21:34 what were you thinking Kartik? I was waiting for this First impression. The product looks awesome. Hope they figure out the production and convert good ideas into cash. Ever thought about investing in these companies?
It's not a bad idea Pratique but if we invest in these products/companies, then we lose our ability to call it as it is
Shumi , when are you reviewing RTR 310.
I'm a bit addicted to their content ❤❤❤
Thanks mngminivlogs! ❤️😊
For a normal city commuter traveling daily home to the office , which is a better choice Pulsar N160 or Unicorn 160 .
Both good choices. The Unicorn is more, um, family-like, and the N160 is more sporty and fun.
Did you guys give them the tag line "SUV of scooters"?
No that was them, by themselves
Lovely discussion ❤
Thank you HS!
Sir i want to buy it but leave in pune what shall i do
On which date you planning to launch your ev
Sir please cover belt and motor pully clay moves inside the motor and pully belt damage more due friction
Please do explain more?
Sir please send your WhatsApp number i send small video
That’s not possible. Please explain if you can?
Ideal for delivery boys. Not for office rides! It’s too ugly for teenagers/college students.
If priced right, this could potentially replace TVS-XL in rural markets
Feels like a good electric
All those hidden taunts at Ola....😂love them
They had answer to everything😅, yes we are working on it. 😀
For once it didn't seem like a made up reply either
6:00 tvs jupiter can fit a full face helmet
Guys can you start consulting services for those who are looking to buy a specific kind of scooter, bike or car, thank you🙏
This scooter looks promising.
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The boys are back 😌💙
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I love the analogies in these videos.
It's like....2 mature kids arguing in a (well lit) dorm room, and we the students are just wowing at each other😂❤
Thank you! That's one way to look at it.
I watched your entire video and test drove it today. My impressions are as follows:
1. It is built rugged and well equipped and as Shumi said, it is a bit rough around the edges
2. Suspension is really good with a better ride quality than the Ather Rizta (which I test drove today as well)
3. Loads of space for luggage and therefore a utilitarian vehicle
4. Console is very simple and no unwanted info being displayed on it as a distraction
5. Handling is easy and yet riding comfort is good
6. Lastly the vehicle glides over potholes and bumps with ease with the 14" wheels and better suspension.
On road price is 1.43L in Bangalore
Thanks Sanjay
Being someone who resides in Bengaluru, I feel proud that our city is gaining this kind of appreciation in creating something that stands by it's purpose. Hoping that they can get the price right so the scooter can reach in all directions of the nation. Love listening to both & love how Shumi explains stuff. Love from Bengaluru!♥♥ Also love Nandi Hills!
Thanks Arun!
Thank you! We are glad that you liked the video.
@@motorinc forget about the *"Indiana Jones"* name I'd be happy to see this being called *"Indy 500"* 🤪🤪
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I don’t think i ever saw shumi so smiling when he talks about new products …. There’s always a catch but now …..
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When will available in pune maharashtra
I am glad you guys covered this bike. Was looking forward to it. This one looks really promising. No dram just get the work done and get it done perfectly..! ❤
We agree!
The expression on Kartikeya's face every time he has taken a back about different aspects of the scooter is priceless. And its so surprising to see Shumi is so bloody happy about a scooter without any of his honest jokes. And this speaks a lot. This itself is a huge achievement for River Indie. Congratulations on this team River. Waiting for the video after Shumi does his full test of this scooter.
R - Red
Y - Yellow
B - Black,
three most distinct and fundamental color in electrical engineering informing the Live, Neutral and Earth connection used in every concept.
they are not trying to Hide the Electrical part of the Vehicle either.
Except the B is for blue
A workhorse EV scooter? Damn interesting. If they make it accessible enough for the carpenters/farmers/masons/electricians market, sounds wonderful.
Indeed!
Wow, I have never seen Shumi sir so optimistic about a product, I am sure River is going to do awesome. Thanks Motorinc for building such beautiful content. i absolutely love this format of review.
I purchased one and own it now for 3 months... 1500 kms done. So those here to Make a decision, summary :
Excellent response, acceleration (ride mode is best, rush makes it a rocket)
Boot space is awesome
Eco mode is not usable ( acceleration is slow - overtaking is painful)
No tech hang ups- key, no mobile app, no touchscreen, I love it coming from access 125
Seat can be more comfortable (lower in front, broad at the back)
Mileage in city ride(ride mode) is 80kms (should have been more even for city riding)
Rear seat comfort less (foot pegs position)
All in all everything is deal maker, excellent throttle response (miles better than Ola) other than 80 kms mileage and seat comfort, it is worth buying
Thank you for sharing @MrViditmadan. Wonderful to hear that!
80kms is single seat mileage or double seat?
@@dewamshah8713 single heavy rider
You met typical kannadiga right
The engineers and designers behind really making our country proud ❤
I just love the way you guys interact, I mean I am a faculty in a design school and I have soo much to learn from you Shumi, as the way you speak and your command over the language. It just holds the environment, very few people can do this (either THEY will be too excited on the screen or sounding too deep) your voice modulations are just perfect.
Sorry for such a long comment, I hope you read it though. ❤❤
Thank you! We read the whole comment and we are glad you shared what you felt.
I have purchased from Bangalore 2 months before with 1000 km drive.
All are sharing positive info. So not covering all positives
Pls find only cons
1) front side suspension is very hard. You can find vibration in your hands heavily
2) front side box lock quality is very bad
3) display battery and KM value is not exactly match. Some issues are there is software
4) reverse mode switch is bid hard.
5) mirrors are very small. Not visible to backside vehicles
6) if you park is slope area , there is no hill hold assistant... We need to press the brake always.. we always find up and slope roads... Not sure on Chennai roads..
7) ride mode - max 85 km range only..
8) extra 2 years warranty - 6k to be paid
9) many of the accessories are not available - out of stock always
10) Software issues in speedometer
11) Ride mode gives only 88 km, eco mode is not feasible to drive.... Eco mode is 100 km only .. 160 km range is misleading information.
I like river’s clarity.
They went with simple screen, but they left space for phone mount.
And, indirectly there will be two screens in front of you, one for maps/calls and one for odometer.
I can conclude that its well planned product!! 👍🏻👍🏻
Do you know/remember that there used to be cricket in the radio - by the way of commentary? No visual only sound. Experience cricket via Radio?
- You experience the ride/thrill/joy/fun of vehicle, but you convey it in explanation. Imagine, manufactuers inviting you and give you same experience. Its not that Shumi's explanation is bad, One of the best it is - PERIOD.
- But lack of visual, creating bad visual experience. I know there could have been a reason, you chose this mode. But, when there is a new excitment in the market, this is not my cup of tea! I'd like to see the vehicle in action not a discussion. Or the discussion could be made more actionable.
Bhai, this is your channel, your decision. This is just my opinion, Just wanted to share my opinion as I have been following you for several years. I will keep following you and keep liking your videos though. Have a nice day!
Thanks for sharing your perspective, PK! We're working on many things and solving many things from zero and we're aware that not everyone will like all the solutions.
@@motorinc Yes! its like lunch in a wedding.. can't satisfy everyone.. bit everyone will enjoy the presence!
I wish u guys a great future ❤️
Thank you so much!
Hmmm,,, as a car analogy, this sounds like River made a sporty, great handling version of the wagonR. This could be the go almost anywhere, do anything, worry-free electric scooter for our bad roads, and it can take a load of work in its stride. Interesting.
And that Indie Anna Jones could be the perfect scooter for the confident college girl!
The black Indie Anna would be for the big brother, though. 😀
😂
Shumi! Kartikeya! It felt just like we did talking shop off the sands near Jaisalmer at the Classic launch. You guys look so proper and grown up. But still the childlike curiosity and enthusiasm. First, congratulations on your media venture. You two are a rare kind of trust-worthy. Second, was a delight hearing about how you discovered the honesty of the Indie. I have had the pleasure of being a sounding board to Vipin & Aravind. They humor me and tolerate most of the unsolicited gyan. Mostly, I am grateful to have a ringside seat as they create. Thank you for looking at River with curious eyes. And hope that you stay engaged with them. Also, watch- one day, much like it does in Thailand, trucks are going to be the sexy thing ( even if you never haul a thing) in India. By then you guys will have much less hair like me. Venki
When I first saw this video post, I just didn't bother checking it cause I didn't hear much about the brand. Today, during my drive back from work in peak Bengaluru traffic, I realized this was the only of MotorInc that I haven't watched yet and I am as surprised as much as Shumi seems to be about the Indie. Definitely going to check one out soon.
The day I saw the Indie, I knew it had the potential to be my family's everyday workhorse. Unfortunately, it isn't available in Jamshedpur. But I guess, by the time it comes here, the company should have ironed out most of its nagging issues.
And yes, I want a big a$$, workhorse, scooter. ❤❤😍😊😊
The design options are excellent and everything is well executed. What pinches is the initial price of approx. 1.5L and the battery swap cost after say 5-6 years of about 60K-65K which is nearly 50% of on road cost at purchase time. Considering depreciation of 14% per year after 5 years the price of the scooter itself is 70,500. So the battery cost after 5 years (when no warranty is available) is 92% of the scooter cost which is crazy. These economics eventually equate an ICE engine scooter and ICE scooters have better resale value anyday. EV scooter makers should bring in a good buyback and upgrade scheme to attract and retain customers. Until then ICE scooters wins irrespective of whatever gimmicks that EV scooter can offer
Alternately we need to build a mindset of buying a iPhone Pro Max when buying an EV scooter. Its obsolete after 5-7 years. So just discard it... Yikes... one just cant build this mindset when purchasing an EV Scooter
I have no clue but why this form of discussion seems more productive than a B roll filled feature list. MotorInc looking for a intern??
I feel this is the first India centric EV. Actually solving the real life problems. The real reason for which technology should be developed.
I hope this turns out as promising as it sounds. The main take away was Honesty. Pick metaphor comparison is bang on. Really a fascinating prospect. I hope they roll it out PAN India soon.
Yayyy!! River Indie's video is finally here. Which means Duke 390's shouldn't be far. Hoping the 390 video gets out before I buy the bike in '24.
The 390 Duke review will be out soon.
Can we get a a video like this for Ultraviolette f77 ? Seems like a very underrated machine.
Would making the rear wheel a 12 inch one be a better option to give more space for the boot.
Another thing they can work on is using the similar charging port/structure as Ather/Hero Vida, as they are already widespread.
12" would release more space but that would also affect ride and dynamics so a lot of re-tuning would probably be needed. Fully agree on the second point, a standard/interoperable charger would be very welcome!
I am currently in the process of getting a Speed Triple RS and selling off my Duke 390. And with my Xpulse with the rally kit and it's daily troubles it gives me with something or the other, I was looking at getting a EV to reduce the maintenance stress and get stuff done in town, while lugging around my work gear, and this one sounds really promising.
Because I had no interest in a sporty scooter. I don't look at a scooter and think sporty. I wanted it to do it's job and the Ola and other stuff were just not right. Maybe soon, I can get this. That'll be nice.
Sounds about right Akhil! Do let us know how you work this problem out. We suspect it will help others too!
You want to reduce maintenance stress and yet buy a Speed Triple RS ???????????
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
You might as well have your last bright / expensive Diwali this year 👅😂
@@rscsingh7848Haha, I understand what you mean. I meant instead of having 3 things to maintain, I want to get an EV, so only 2 things to regularly maintain. But the idea of the Triumph is not because it's so maintenance free. It's pure emotion and love. Don't care what comes with that. I just don't want to bother with splitting that stuff into the 3 vehicles when I already do 2 motorbike maintenance. And the Xpulse is the worst of them all. That thing basically gives me trouble everytime I take it out on a trail.
Exactly that pick-up truck ownership point hit me, even after the video ended, im searching for a reason to justify buying this 😅 like i don't have a business or something, but somehow I'm feeling so much satisfied hearing out about this vehicle that i wanna buy it but don't know why i should do 😅😅 at first i thought to ask how does it compare to activa or Jupiter or iqube, but that pick up truck sedan context put me off guard 😅
Honestly, don’t really need all that “smart” features. Both Ola and Ather are really struggling to provide a good software experience. Too many bugs, too many unusable features. And now that Ather has put these behind a pay wall, I promptly stopped using them and my life hasn’t changed a bit. I am so excited for Indie. 🤞
There are people who want the features and there are those who don't. The paywall makes sense and it is good that customers who don't want the features can opt out. The Indie has a clear cut customer in mind and it is clever of them to not offer complicated and sometimes unreliable features.
This feels exactly like watching the malayalam(or "Manglish" 😄) youtube channel 'Talking Cars', but in English (It's unfortunate that the Talking Cars channel stopped uploads).
Beautifully flowing conversation between 2 friends which gives us a lot of information instead of walking around the vehicle by giving the information available on brochures.
Dear MotorInc, please never change or stop this format.
Great video. Great analogies. As always great watching your content. Off topic from this video, will there be a video of this nature or a review of new bullet 350 from shumis perspective? I know you love the classic 350 and this is very much the same but something, anything please do create a video. If you have already done on other platforms then perhaps a link here would be really appreciated.
River logo below the screen is a good suggestion however they could have given a mobile stand also for navigation. It is a serious competition to Ola because of its practicality. Indie is good for picnic, camping, hobby classes and sports activities. It is not just for delivery boys but it is going to be popular among youth also.
I hope this scooter works on a commercial level.
We hope so too! We're hoping that the road test goes as well for the Indie as the first impression has been
After Ather, River seems to be another promising EV company from India, in our huge EV market flooded with subpar products (including the Spanish Hello).
Indie seems to be like a fantastic workhorse product that can also double as a lifestyle product, like the previous gen Thar or the old Mahindra Jeep.
I hope River will evolve this platform and bring out more products from it, like an ADV version or a step-through/maxi scooter or a powerful performance scooter (like the Aerox or TVS X).
"I've consistently cherised listening to Shumi and Karthik, and I'm eagerly anticipating a ride on the River Indie. As a passionate Bengaluru-based biker, the excitement is palpable!"😅
@Shumi, it's always a pleasure to hear your candid and highly practical, no-nonsense reviews that get straight to the point.
Ok this is the first electric scooter I'm exited about and want to buy
It surely is promising. Let us know how your test ride went and whether you liked it.
Here is my take on it
With all the accessories mounted on it i felt like it looks more or less like a himalayan (the feel of travelling not the specs or built) and mostly would cater campers and travellers
It also reminded me of Honda scooters and bikes (Japanese versions)
1) The first thing i felt is the ground clearance, speed breakers are huge at some place, my struggle with tvs xl exhaust has made me realise this the hard way
2) Accessories : Should be affordable a tool box would be an added advantage, i also want some mounts to add rain protection gear like Sepal so that i can travel in rain
3) The glove box cover seems flimsy, when i carry things i want less scratches in my bike, so a matte finish glove box cover is much needed, infact it should be a cheap replaceable accessory.
4) Matte finish - please don't forget this, also a customisable space so that i can add stickers to my scooter
My suggestion would be to create a service centric support than useless dealerships, easy to repair videos, trouble shooting guides
It has a Ugly Design & is too expensive...
Will prefer I-Qube, ather any day over this !!
They had me at underseat storage for a full face helmet. 😂. No really!! [Also, 14” wheels -> ❤]
I absolutely LOVED their approach to the Indie. From design, utility, sense of purpose - everything. I’d seriously consider a 2.0 iteration for this or even 1.0 as soon as I’m confident the product readiness and Co has got its overall act together.
The three riders triangle reminds me of me riding my activa in three positions and it actually works for some reasons
havent enjoined any other episode like this one, so practical and so much enthu in schumi sir's voice when he was explaining !!!!! Always like practical rides for day to day lets hope they can get it sometime to Pune too in the future .
This scooter is a very attractive proposition not only for small businessmen but also for the normal working-class man who has to bring a lot of stuff that is bought to restack the inventory of household supplies.
This is what engineering is, they showed it to us. It's not an aspirational product its a product that works really well. Nice. Love from Bengaluru shumi and karthikeya ❤. Saw shumi in typical kannadiga youtube channel was so excited to see if he mentions him here. Well anyway. great video.
Hey! We generally de-focus from the vehicle _very little_ on MotorInc First, they're quite long anyway 🤷🏽♂️
@@motorinc long is good👍
Bingo Shumi ! Its like a vehicle made for a purpose.
Only gripe is the colours are too flashy. Wouldve been amazing if it came in earthy colours. This looks like a trippy vehicle built for a hippie 😂
Indeed Ashes! The launch colours are very bright and we hope that River has more "reasonable" colours on offer too!
@@motorinci think its purposeful and they want to be a part of the pop culture. Hence the colours and the name ”Indie” imho.
I am immediately getting one because the number of checkboxes it ticks are huge. No timepass touchscreens or fancy things that journalist want for no reason are not there, that makes it so much better if a bug arrives or if at all there are issues.
I hope they get the service part right. Rest seems all good. Carrying loads would be so much easier.
look like its made for khardungla
From what I’m hearing from you guys, it sounds like the Rivian of the scooter world!
We hadn't thought of it like that, but we're hoping that the road test is as impressive as the first impression was for sure, Nithin!
@@motorincjust a side note, guys, an uncle of mine works for the design in River, shout out to Leo Steaphen!
definitely buying it. Love me a utility two wheeler. Either this or the aventose. I wish they had a accessory for pets.
You guys always wear light colour greyish clothes, is it like an company requirement to maintain this cool mature aesthetic? Or is it just you guy's choice?
🤣 Why are you focussed on our clothes! Let's talk cars and bikes!
@@motorinc just thought about it when you guys mentioned indie's bright colours. It's a brand i guess Superman comes in red and blue and motor inc comes in grey and white
why It's not in Kerala
I like the 14 inch wheels, but looks are disgusting. I think this company will be closed within 6 months after the introduction of Honda electric scooter.
Nice stuff. I was looking for nice 150cc to 200cc bike. Need your help on it. Requirements are mainly family usage and city commutes. Very less highway usage. Can u suggest one or do a video.
I got attracted by d design. Ok after test drive found its having a normal key not even a foldable or anything. Speedometer display look like low quality black red green colour on it. Looks normal display nothing as digital. Not even having any minute connection features like other. Atleast the display should be like advanced little. Having experience of Aerox, it feels similar feel though. U would copied aerox console atleast as yamaha invested already. More over no where metal body. Its all fiber. I was feeling fantastic to sell off my Aerox for this. Also why ABS is missed in this. Ather feels metal body.