"What if Arthas Hadn't Turned Evil?" - (Alternate Warcraft Lore)
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- Опубліковано 1 жов 2024
- Arthas, the Lich King, the primary antagonist of World of Warcraft's second expansion. You know his story: the former Paladin student of Uther the Lightbringer, whose homeland was ravaged by the undead Scourge. In desperation to save his people, Arthas underwent a journey that cost him the lives of his friends, the love of his life, and even his very own soul. Taking up the runeblade Frostmourne, he became a Death Knight of the very Scourge he sought to destroy, until ultimately surrendering himself to the Frozen Throne entirely, becoming the new Lich King - the leader of the undead seeking to ravage Azeroth.
But what if Arthas had never turned evil? What if he had made different choices throughout his story of Warcraft 3 and became all that he was hoped to be? In this video, we discuss just that topic. What if Arthas had remained a Paladin, a loyal student, and what exactly would that story have looked like for our hero of the Holy Light.
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What if the Lich King had been turned into Arthas?
Oh,.. my,... Arthas!
Arthas! Arthas! Arthas!
azeroth would fall to his pillar of arthas and is arthas strike
moonknight12579 Don't spoil the story of the next expansion 😄
You mean like, Arthas's personality dominating Ner'zhul's?
We all know Arthas has made the good choice by purging Stratholme and rushing through Northrend. He sacrificed his honor for his people.
If only he didn't pick Frostmourne, we could have done it with the mighty power of whosyourdaddy.
SWBGTOC in book even Uther and Jaina knew it is the best choice to purge but they were pussies
It was best choose no doubt
Not picking frostmourne but sailing to northrend without knowing anyting was mistake! Do you think Arthas claimed sword by his free will? watch cutscanes of warcraft 3 at all of them AFTER landing northrend(by after I mean RIGHT after... moment he standing on it) he started acting weird. If you ask me from that moment on Ner'zhul started effecting him and prepared him to moment of encountering frostmourne.
He burn his own ships! But did you notice that scourge tried to hold him back? I belive that ner'zhul thought Arthas is tring to escape northrend that moment after all he cant access his mind without frostmourne just effect him
Moment he landed northrend he was slave to Ner'zhul I belive
'you're Cheating!'
A small notice, Jaina did not know the exact effects of the plague.
She left Hearthglen before the tows people turned into undead, so she only knew that the plague was created and spread by the cult of the dammed, and and the goal is to cleanse the land of life, most likely by killing them.
With great power comes responsibility...
"Arthas! This whole city must be Arthased!"
"How could you even consider that Arthas! There's got to be some other way!"
"Damn it Arthas I order you to Arthas this Arthas! Arthas!"
"You are not my Arthas yet! Arthas! Nor would I obey that Arthas even if you were!"
"Then I must consider this an act of Arthas!"
"Arthas!"
Skoll Shorties delet this
Never.
What's that from?
Nixxiom's Arthas video. Years ago.
Thanks! I looked it up, and I laughed so hard!
the mages didnt help the starvation with magic food because reasons.
typical mages, never bothering to conjure food for the party
The mages would need to eat as well. The energy to make the food is in the food. Is a good bit in a Knack book where Rhonin is really hungry. He could go and conjure some food but it would be pointless as eating the conjured food would just give him energy he used to conjure it. Can't just create energy from nothing after all.
well technically speaking food was conjured with mana, mana is recharged from the atmosphere; the energy of the planet itself. So it actually was possible..
I think I read somewhere that conjured food is only temporary sustenance, it doesn't really fill you up in the long-term. Might be wrong though.
A Knaak book?! Really?!
I really can't take Nixxiom's voice seriously. I always feel like he's two seconds away from memeing
i know right :)) exactly how i felt throughout the entire video
And then.... fucking malfurion
He's a mega nerd
6:55 is pretty close to memeing
In every video I expect there to be ..." fucking malfurion!"
What if Tyrande chose Illidian instead of Malfurion
What if Stonemasons were paid
What if Vellen joined Burning Legion.
Lukáš Houdek BC wouldn't happen, Onyxia would fail and Varian would have a wife, and we would lose the war of the ancients because velen is as powerful as archimonde and kj
If Velen joined the Legion, that meant he would need to undress his silky robes and expose his drooping grandpa titties, because both KJ and Archimonde are bare-chested.
What if the portal failed to close when those heroes stayed behind the first time, in Outland? What if they were killed before they managed to close it?
What if Arthas raped Sylvanas for 3 days straight before killing her and turning her into a banshee?
What if Jaina and Thrall made love?
Lukáš Houdek what if Velen joined the Legion instead of Archimonde and Kil’jaeden?
A more important question is if Arthas heeded Medivh's warning.
Synopsis:
-Arthas and Jaina lead the humans of Lordaeron/Theramore. Uther does not join because he is bound to the King.
-Lordaeron falls regardless because King Terenas refuses to leave. Terenas is eventually killed by undead.
-Stratholme is not culled; undead flood from the city.
-Uther is not slain; remains alive to keep undead from advancing.
-Arthas and Jaina skirmish with the Horde, but eventually become allies thanks to Medivh.
-The Human/Horde/Night Elf alliance cross over to Eastern Kingdoms via portal by Medivh to engage the Scourge.
-Although they had a strong start due to Andorhal and Stratholme, the Scourge likely does not have frontline leadership the same caliber as a corrupted Arthas, therefore they have suffered many setbacks when trying to advance towards Quel'thalas.
-If Uther is still alive, he likely took his remaining forces to Quel'thalas and teamed up with Sylvanas and her rangers. This makes the Scourge take even longer to advance towards Silvermoon.
-The united forces crush the scourge. The Scourge never make it to the Sunwell. No Sunwell = no revived Kel'Thuzad = no one to summon the Legion. Forces of good win again!
Sylvanas windrunner wouldn't have been Warchief.
No one would persuade Illidan stormrage to take the power of Gul'Dan skull
but then we wouldnt have any other wow than vanilla
So then why would Medivh convince Jaina and Arthas to go to Kalimdor in the first place? (Just asking)
@@niantica1869 He initially tried to convince Arthas, Jaina was eavesdropping on their conversation. If Arthas had listened she probably would have followed Arthas to Kalimdor because she had also listened in on Medivh when he tried to deliver the warning to Antonidas.
There's no doubt in my mind she'd have instantly offered to come with him, likely they would have continued on to Stratholme and brought the plan before Uther, who honestly probably would reject it initially, since he believes the demons are gone.
Then Mal'Ganis appears and suddenly Uther re-evaluates his position. What happens from there (to my mind) would be much the same, Arthas still takes the fleet, he just heads to Kalimdor instead of Northrend, this time Uther doesn't try to recall his soldiers, and in fact *he* probably ends up going to Northrend since Mal'Ganis tells them "hey I'll be 'chillin' in Northrend" to exact justice on the demon (because you know, after the orcs pulled that demon shit Lordareon takes that stuff VERY seriously once proof is presented)
The real question then becomes "does Mal'Ganis kill Uther, or does Uther win and if so, does he head to Kalimdor to aid the prince, or go back to Lordaeron and get his shit pushed in by Tichondrious?"
@@Rebellions No I meant another thing cause the guy said that if Arthas would have listened to Medivh then Uther would have been the one leading the forces in Lordaeron but since he chooses not to cull Stratholme it floods with the undead, meanwhile because Arthas isn't the new Death Knight, the Scourge doesn't have the same skilled leader as he is. Therefore it takes them longer to get to Quel'Thalas . Since Uther is still alive he leads his remaining forces to Quel'Thalas to ally with Slyvannas so that they can stop the Scourge from reviving Kel'Thuzad. Without him, there won't be anyone to summon Archimonde into Azeroth, therefore no Legion invasion. But the question remains, if that was the case then why didn't Medivh just told Arthas and Jaina to go and rendezvous with Uther so they could take on the Scourge in Quel'Thalas? I mean if Uther and Slyvannas' forces alone could take on the Scourge and defeat it, why send Arthas and Jaina to Kalimdor? It would be pretty much useless if the Legion invasion was not to start anyway, because, in the original lore, Thrall and Jaina were called by Medivh to go to Kalimdor to ally with the Night Elves so together they could defeat Archimonde. Which now in this altered lore would be pretty useless because there would be no revived Kel'Thuzad to summon him in Azeroth in the first place.
If Arthas married Jania, wouldn't he actually gain a Strong alliance with Kul Tiras, not Dalaran?
Lord Penguin yes but they were all blind
Jaina wasnt well like in kul tiras. She let her father die from fighting orcs. After that, she became quite the eyesore to kul tiras, so she left. (something like that)
I dont think that has happened yet
Jaina let fur farther die =fighting orcs way after all this
that did not happen here
this is before she even met an ork
At least Jaina gets the D in this version
Leonardo Gabriel She already got the D in the original version
Leonardo Gabriel *"Damnit Moon Moon!!"*
Leonardo Gabriel I like how there are 69 likes on this comment, keep it that way LMAO
Jaina and Arthas lost their virginity to each other, it's in the Rise of the Lich King novel
She got the D the very night before. Read the "Arthas" novel.
idk after hearing this version, i'm glad arthas purged strathholme
LOLLLL
Real talk I agree
Yes but the only problem was that the entire kingdom fell anyway so i don't really made a difference. He messed everyone up after he became the death night tow I would have to agree this turn of events is much darker in the contex of the story.
@@tobyfredson5668 If arthas hadn't taken up Frostmourne, I don't think the kingdom would've actually fallen. He might die instead when he finally confronts Mal'ganis, or maybe something else would happen, considering Muradin would still be alive if he hadn't taken up Frostmourne let alone choose to find the damn weapon. We'll never know but it's interesting to think about the result.
@@christianpuga9424 Or he could just not go to Northrend. Or he could have returned from Northrend when he was ordered to.
"What if Arthas Hadn't Turned Evil?"
*Got Forcefully turned evil*
98kazer he was kind of on a slippery slope. Forstmourne definitely played a part in turning him, but he was already doing some stuff not very paladinlike
@@ShadowknightEX just because someone's done something none paladin-like, doesn't mean their already labeled evil.
and besides, the video says
"what if Arthas hadn't turned Evil?"
nothing in the title says:
"what if Arthas obeyed the paladin code?"
98kazer we’ll slaughtering your own people just so they don’t turn into zombies (which didn’t work anyway) isn’t just not paladin like. It’s pretty questionable in general.
I am fully aware though that the forces of darkness were working on turning Arthas from the very start though. Malganis and Kel’thuzad were very aware of the Greater plan at work
@@ShadowknightEX | think we misunderstood each other,
my comment and previous reply was directed to the Arthas who didn't become evil.
yours is directed to Canon Arthas.
98kazer ahh. I see
I'm still waiting for "What if the Orcs on Draenor never drank Mannoroth's Mountain Dew?" or "What if F*cking Malfurion didn't save our ass 12 times throughout the game?"
Make it happen, Nixxiom. Make it happen.
The Echo Knight Malfurion saved us in Cataclysm...?
derek miller - Watch "The True Story of Deathwing". Thank me later.
The Echo Knight
I'll give you a run down if the orcs never drank the blood
They never go to Azeroth, so basically never having a war and 90% of world threatening events never happening, the races of Azeroth prosper and quickly react to stuff like death wing. Illidan wouldn't have eaten guldan, no scourge, no panda land war, no WoD, basically only parts of cata and legion would've happened, hell the Draenei might not even get to Azeroth. I guess the Amani might be a thing, but the races of the world should be able to take them out fine, not being constantly at war and all.
I'd like to see the second one.
Well in warlords of dreanor garrosh told grom of the curse and instead they made the legion open the portal for them and then ambushed mannoroth at the ceremony where they would drink his mountain dew. Then we went through the portal, fucked their new non corrupted horde up and they got desperate and drank the demon blood guldan offered them anyway.
Purging Stratholme was the only logical thing to do. Even Uther and Jaina knew it, but refused to accept it. I'd say the biggest mistake Arthas did was going to Northrend after Mal'ganis. The moment he picked up Frostmourne was the moment he turned evil. I agree that even if Arthas hadn't turned evil, Lordaeron would still have fallen. Ner'zhul would have found another champion to pick up Frostmourne and the following events would have played out pretty much like in lore, with the exception that Arthas would have died.
Not necessarily. Arthas barely made it to the Frozen Throne in time. If he had to wait for someone else, there probably wouldn't have been a Lich King.
yep true and trust me during the Purge.... I'd rather let them die than fall into Mal'ganis hand
and also... I wasn't really that wise Paladin like Uther I used to be a Warrior under Muradin's training so I had anger issue so yeah...
i don't see why illidan get the gift of redemption but arthas doesn't in the end he also sacrificed himself to defeat the scourge... stupid lore
No lich king means undead will freely roam everywhere imagine the mayhem... if you think about it the lich king brings balance by containing the undead
@@Nereus00 Because Arthas went from a Lawful Good paladin to a Chaotic Evil Death Knight BY CHOICE (being manipulated doesnt diminish the fact that he chose to ignore the curse that Frostmourne would bring), while Illidan has always been a Chaotic Good/Neutral character. I understand that Illidan did some questionable stuff from our PoV, but from his side Illidan has always worked towards defeating the Legion. Its ironic actually. During TBC we went to outland to stop Lord Kazzak's plan of invading Azeroth (after he found a way to reopen the Dark Portal), but after we stopped it, lorewise, we decided to keep exploring Outland to see where the demons were coming from.
Now in Outland Illidan was using the Sargerite Keystone to invade legion worlds and obliterate them. One of them was Nathreza ( Dreadlord Planet), where he unleashed so much energy that the planet was reshaped the same way Draenor became Outland. Destroying Nathreza was a serious blow to Kil'Jaeden who sent his legions to lure the Champions of Azeroth to invade Outland and get baited into defeating Illidan.
So you see, Illidan was never an evil character. From Warcraft 3 he was Chaotic Good/Neutral with a sole purpose of saving Azeroth, and his beloved Tyrande, from the burning Legion. While being the ruler of outland he never annoyed Azeroth as he promised Malfurion and Tyrande. We however in our ignorance went to his turf and slaughtered him.
Then one morning, as Arthas was barely awake, Jaina lunged her dagger through his heart, and as the lift left his eyes, whispered into his ear; "the Dreadlords send their regards".
Well it's speculated that she died in the bombing of Theramore so that doesn't work
Just Ethan She's a dreadlord
Prince Vlad! I'm like your biggest fan!
mate what the "fuk".. she was never a dread lord, adn it's actually explained in one book that she survived Theramore by being pushed in to a portal
If you look at her entire story I think she had a mental breakdown realising that everything she did in her life to achieve peace only led to her personal suffering. She lost Arthas, her Father, Theramore, also Varian whom she as very close friend with. Despite all efforts for peace she was betrayed over and over again by the Horde or at least members of the Horde.
Everything she ever did was in vain, every sacrifice she made was for nothing - so becoming bitter and full of hate is actually a quite a human reaction to me and was something her character needed, just look at Thrall - he is still green Jesus to a point where it's unbearable.
what if uther hadnt betrayed arthas before culling of stratholme...
warchief ultradeath conan barbarian terminator....
That's actually a lot more interesting, when they inevitably travel north, would they have been able to support each other enough to avoid corruption and take out the scourge?
Jonah Marx absolutely not. Uther would have been corrupted as well. Nerzhul was way too strong
"To quarantine the entire Arthas will take many Arthases. To screen each Arthas for the Arthas's taint will take months, Arthas." Arthas added.
Heh Arthas's taint
"To Arthas the entire Arthas will take many Arthases. To Arthas each Arthas for the Arthas's Arthas will take Arthas, Arthas." Arthas added.
Strikes me as a bit odd that in this scenario, Terenas kicked the bucket from "stress and old age", whereas in the canon timeline he coped well enough with the news of Stratholme falling, his people turning into zombies, and his son denying his orders to return home/possibly dying on his campaign. If his time simply ran out and he was "fated" to die no matter what, wouldn't the extra bad news from the original timeline speed up that process, not prolong it long enough for him to be reunited with his son?
Why didn't the mages just conjure food?
Because you can't just create energy. Conjured food takes the energy you get eating it from the mages casting it. The mages would starve.
Joseph Silver they were lvl 1
*****
I imagine it is more something you use if have a font of power to draw from or are a servant making the food for someone else.
tell me you people are kidding... its a utility spell for the mmo, not an actual lore spell as far as im concerned, mages dont create things from thin air,they manipular energies, not matter in itself, What is funny though, mages can use portals, why not bring food through one
Joseph Silver mages cook it. they dont just poof it to existance
Why all of your "What if" videos must end badly?
Tealion Wolfheart he's a death knight.
Because fate is not always kind
Tealion Wolfheart cause it's Warcraft, and since the first game, it's always been a heavy victory with heavy loss.
Because he's an agent of the Infinite Dragonflight.
"Times change!"
What if i never started playing WoW? I would still have a job 😂
ROFL same
You poor bastards
Facepalm
But instead.. you just install csgo cheats on friends PC... klara... :D :D
What if jaina wasn't a dread lord
That would just be too ridiculous!
AmazingBob Likes Pie then shes just a crazy bitch
Then she might be a pawn of the Old Gods ;)
THAT would be far more fun.
That's what i honestly think she is now. Not a dreadlord but a pawn of the old gods.
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Thanks Nixxiom for the new Video
I think I could wield Frostmourne well, the sword would be to busy arguing with the voices in my head to take me over. 🙃
What if Gul'Dan became a Shaman.
I think he'd let the power corrupt him at one point, the elements would leave him, he'd get pissed off and then Mannoroth would be like "hey"
nixxiom they knew the bread spread the corruption before going to stratholme
he found out far before stratholme that there was plagued food, and found it even more in hearthglen
purging stratholme was the best decision
a quick painless death for those inside, instead of risking everything
also i wouldent consider arthas turning evil at "the purging of stratholme" that was merciful... he whent evil when he decided to chase to northrend....
so good video but i feel its abit lacking on lore (as you seem to make it seem like they dident know about the plague being in the food before going to stratholme) and full of opinions
Felplague I’m glad I’m not the only one who has thought and felt this way. I always agreed with the Culling of Stratholme.
*Here's a story that could be funny :*
What if Illidan somehow never managed to begin his spell with the Eye of Sargeras in the Ruins of Dalaran.
Then the Frozen Throne wouldn't have been cracked.
Ner'zhul (and by extension, Arthas) wouldn't have been weakened.
Sylvanas would still be under the Lich King's control.
Arthas and Kel'thuzad could have easily dispatched the Dread lords Varimathras, Detheroc and Balnazzar.
They could have finished the Undercity (which *they* began to create, the Forsakens only took over it and finished it).
If you look at the city, you'll notice that it was clearly intended to be a flying necropolis.
Now imagine the Necropolis rising from the ground, destroying what is left of the Ruins of Lordaeron.
Imagine the Scourge of the Lich King flying above the continents of Azeroth inside such mighty unholy ship.
How badass would *that* be ?
why do you think that Illidan spell helped to awake Nerzul? He tried to destroy and in every way Arthas and Nerzul unite ( it was his plan to have body at least )
Things you got teribly wrong:
1. Mal'Ganis resided in Stratholme too around that time
2. The Plague and Corruption are both *completly* different things
3. Only grain can spread the plague
4. Kel'Thuzad was allready killed by arthas just outside of Andorhall *weeks* before the situation at stratholme
ACKTHUALLY
Nixxiom! 2:40 is my old RP guild on Moon Guard. Kul Tiras Marine Corps. And the guy named Kurone is my RL friend Nick. I don't know where you got this picture but it made me so happy.
Then perhaps the Falcons would've won the Super Bowl... nah
Are you mad
No one gives a shit. It's the same damned sports game that happens every year by assholes who are way overpaid.
Lord Birdwood preach! way overpaid 😬
Actually lots of people give a shit M Salvaresh
Lord Birdwood hahah lol! Tooo soon
What if My hot pockets weren't Nazi's.
Thomas Muehldorf you're mad
How could you even consider that?
There's got to be some other way!!!
then you couldn't Jew with a vengeance...
Thomas Muehldorf would not work too much lore break
Arthas looks superfat at 5:19
he ate all the food so peasants had just the disgusting plagued food left, leading to starvation, to them eating everything to them turning undead to the fall of lorderon to arthas dying in the defense.
So his excessive eating killed him, and that's the point of this video. :D
Arthas got dat puuuuuusay
that story had many problems
I'm kinda surprised that the High Elves of Silvermoon weren't mentioned in this alternate timeline. Surely, the two kingdoms could have kept the Scourge at bay and/or discover the Litch King and his Legion masters?
What if Gallywix would have been chosen as Warchief, after Siege of Orgrimmar? :P
He'd build a wall.
And make the gnomes pay for it
couldnt say it better
I mean the Horde's running out of leaders, and I got good odds on Sylvie dropping before Legion's done.
JacksonJin BFA proves otherwise lmao
So maybe Arthas was right after all to purge Strathome....................................... goddammit uther!
Alexandros can't catch a fucking break.
*Canon* - Murdered by Renault.
*Theory* - Murdered by Renault.
Should have pulled out, Mograine!
would arthas go all ebon blade tho? geez i think this alternate history could have a part two. what about the elves? would the undead move south? would dalaran fall? I NEED PART TWO DANGIT
that pic during 5:27 was from a wc3 custom map called "The Scourge of Lordaeron Enhanced" right?
+Nixxiom You forgot to think about if the other nations in the Alliance could support Lordaeron. Gilneas, Stromgarde, Kul'Tiras, Stormwind and maybe even the remains of Alterac could have sent aid and maybe formed another Alliance of Lordaeron against the Scourge. Also, Hearthglen and Tyr's Hand didn't fall to the Scourge originally but in your maps appear overrun. Maybe these keeps could have held out and acted as points for survivors and where the nation could launch attacks?. Andorhal could have been taken back as Uther had done before his death, The House of Barov (Caer Darrow) may not have been persuaded to defect now that Arthas hadn't turned over. The High Elves of the North could have lent their aid in assisting the Humans in detecting the plague, and worked in conjunction with the Kirin Tor to create the Undead-Harming Magic that the Kirin Tor had created in WC3 during Dalaran's Siege. But this is all just my opinion, if Arthas had chosen to do a quarantine instead, I think the Scourge wouldn't have had a chance, problem is, Ner'Zul had the ability to see future events, and so his plans were fool-proof to succeed.
Nice to see you arax
Ye boi.
Araxamas Terimidias well actually Gilneas won't help
Gilneas wouldn't do anything for Lordaeron itself but they'd still be aware of the undead plague
Stormwind would most definately have sent aid to Lordaeron, as would Kul'Tiras, as Arthas' marriage to Jaina would for all intents and purposes have secured an alliance between the two kingdoms rather than securing more aid from the mages of Dalaran. But Gilneas was walled off, Alterac in ruins, and Stromgarde was busy with the events that would eventually lead to Thoras' assassination at the hands of Galen. Quel'Thalas was just about as walled off as Gilneas without a literal wall at their border, and they barely paid any attention to anything happening in Lordaeron, except for the priests they sent early on in the Warcraft 3 campaign to research the so called rumours of a plague, and the House of Barov had already joined the Cult of the Damned long before Arthas even considered sailing to Northrend. So all in all, while Lordaeron would definately have held out longer, it would have fallen sooner or later. And I personally doubt quarantining Stratholme would never have been fully succesfull unless he had planned for it in advance before going there, so Lordaeron would eventually have to face an army of undead made up from the population of one of its largest cities.
So.... in other words...... arthas = prevents world collapse.
Brilliant writing, very engaging to listen to. The end gave me chills, just because your voice acting is SO good! I swear, if you'd write a book or made an audio book, I'd totally buy it. Great job!
Well I wouldn't have my Troll DK
This would have made a much more interesting expansion than "bla bla something something of Draenor".
the culling of Stratholme was one of my favorite missions during the Lich King expansion.
Story makes sense but what you did is ... ugh... same thing? I mean we know it allready since medivh told it . You were supposed to make arthas lead his people to kalimdor
Story was supposed to be "what if arthas listened medivh"
Thanks for reminding me how totally perfect and amazing WTLK story was, in my opionion THIS is what is gone downhill in wow, the storymaking, the thrill, the dialogs, etc...used to be really good and in Legion well most Demons make me laugh more often than not.
But I wont say Legion is bad, I love it to bits, but they dont have the same writers anymore im sure on this.
If Arthas never turned evil that epic Cinematic at the end of every ICC Raid and the epic line of his Father would have never existed.
doesn't really matter that much, and tbh having arthas restoring lordaeron instead of that banshee bitch would be more pleasant to my eyes.
Straight up. Lordaeron is the best kingdom and it sucks Banshee bitch sits on the throne and Arthas's sister is too priesty to even want to take it back.
Akhilesh P totaly agree.
I wouldve rather seen her in Hell with Arthas.
Arthas rules!
Dank Memes #makeLordearongreatagain
Mary Jane and now Calia is dead and risen in undeath by alonsus and anduin
More What Ifs! These are amazing! :D
.....I don't see Tirion Fordring anywhere ....
Necro Katalinsky and why would he? was exiled after the Second War
I see
Darion aswell.
LegenDarius13
they were slacking off dont worry
Ionut Catalin It's because he was holding a grim destiny in his hands. But it was not his own.
Didn't the aspect of time already cover this? Arthas doesn't become the Lich King. We never discover Yog Saron. We all die, because Yoggy gets too massive :) Pretty sure that's why the Culling of Stratholme instance exist :D
The people were better off with Ranauld than with Arthas, since the exact same events occurred, but Uther lived, the high elves never became the blood elves, and Jaina had a child
Bomb_Boy567 and you wouldnt even know who is that sluty ranger general.
One day we will know, because there now is the WoD-Timeline existing as well, which includes an Azeroth that never saw Orcs, Ogres and the Scourge. I have the feeling that one day we will visit this timelines Azeroth and find how the humans conquered nearly all of it into an Empire ... enslaving or killing the other races (full Garithos /Proudmore) and maybe Arthas will be it's Grand-crusader or even God-Emperor.
I really like nixxioms storytelling voice :D
I wonder if Arthas would end up becoming the 'Sylvanas' of the story here (as far as her role in WC3 is concerned, anyway)
What I dont and probably never understand is the fact:
"There is a Blade....its Powerful, lets take it."
"Dude....this thing is cursed..."
"Lets take it anways."
why not like
"Its cursed....lets pick it up with cloth or something like that so it cant touch us"
Arthas wore gloves, and that didn't really help
Legendary weapons are soul bound.
so they are bound to the one who placed the weapon there?
Instead of mages of Kirin Tor they should've turn to priests of Quel Thalas. It always surprised me why mere plague was such pain in ass to one who manipulated with essence of light and healing (paladins), by logic they could've cure everyone once discovering the source of plague, but nah, genocide is the only option.
Sounds a lot like "what if hitler hadn't turned evil"
Then we'd probably admire paintings of a skilled painter.
If he hadn't turned evil then he would've probably spent more time painting instead of bitching about jews.
Practice makes perfect.
What about Mal Ganis? He still would have invaded right away no matter what Arthas had done.
Also why didn't Arthas Arthas his Arthas' before they could Arthas into the UnArthas?
You didn't mention Quel'Thalas at all?
Love these types of videos.
I do believe that the purging of Strathome was justified.
Although if it wasn't Arthas it would've been someone else to take Frostmourne. If only they could've purged Stratholme and left it at that.
What if eredars never accpeted fel pact?
I don't think Stratholme is when Arthas turned evil, I think he turned evil when he picked up Frostmourne. Stratholme was entirely necessary, and everything after that was him being overemotional and stupid, but it wasn't evil. When he picked up Frostmourne though, he didn't even care that Muradin was dead, he was too obsessed with the blade immediately, already going insane with its power.
what if jaina did get pragnent after thier one nighter
"The Bastard of Lordaeron"
Sounds sick
Uther will be an interesting add, but you left out Antonidas Nixxiom. After seeing all this destruction he would believe Medivh's warning and joined them to the journey to Kalimdor.
meanwhile mal'ganis is......................
The legion would have won.
If Arthas never became the Lich King. If he never forced the creation of the blood elves. The Blood elves and the Knights of the Ebon Blade would never had helped against The legion.
These Alternate Warcraft stories are really good for sleeping
why arthas does not even call for help from ironforge and stormwind to battle the scourge and still hoping for his remaining army to defend the capital city and what happen to queltalas did it fall under the scourge?? i hope you will create a part 2 of this because this is a great story and i want to see what will happen next
Instead of purging the city, they just could have asked who ate the bread and who didn't
Darth Vin lol will you admit you did it? knowing theyd kill you?
there is no need to tell them. Just tell them they need medication and take them somewhere else where you can kill them. This however can lead to a civil unrest though
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easy, just tell everyone they attempted a cure but it didn't work. No one was cured, everybody turned and had to be put down.
mikeythebold tv woah woah not again
There was no cure. An Argent Dawn member was healed by fellow Argent Dawn priests and Earthen Ring shamans but he still died after
I feel like uther would have stayed and help lead the people while arthas trying to bring hope to his people would ride south planning to help forge the unnamed sword and that the Kirin tor and high elves would help keep the areas around the eastern borders of lordaeron safe after seeing all the damage that had been done to the area. It seems like a very long time passes before the fall of lordaeron in the scenario and that opens up chances for other races and factions to help.
But still loved it like all your other theories
Why is it that I find this more interesting than Arthas's actual story?
Patrick Buckley arthas story contained until frozen throne is interesting... in WoW just becomes another final boss to gang up and kill... because in WoW they just kinda develope good guys
@@brunoandrespadillanavarro8923 I don't think they expected this sort of longevity. I'm willing to bet some of the original members, what little there are at least, really regret killing off some of those cooler antagonists so early on. They did bring Illidan back... Only to technically kill him off again, but as an anti-hero.
Blizz doesn't seem to have any qualms over retconning their own material, maybe we'll see Arthas again in retail. I'm sure he'd be a total crap character in a total crap plot, because WoW is now total crap, but I'd prefer seeing him again over whatever new crap they crap out.
Crap.
so..... if he didn't go evil everyone would've died anyways, if he didn't become the lich king , a bad ending would happen either way...
Solution:Have Mages in the HUNDREDS go into Stratholme.
Solution 2:Make conjured food and water.
3:PROFIT.
So pretty much Arthas would become the linch king anyways, the only difference on this story it's that we would have seen a badass mage/paladin hero, jaine and Arthas daughter that sounds amazing, I can't wait for the night elves I forgot their names to have a child it will be such an icon into wow to see a child of the heroes
as some one who dont even know the original lore. is this entire video an alternate universe or does it start with canon and diverge later?
It starts to become Fanon at Stratholme. In lore, Arthas wanted to purge the city. Half his forces, Uther, and Jaina all left him after that. After culling Stratholme, Arthas took Lordaeron's fleet to Northrend where he found Frostmourne, Killed Mal'Ganis, betrayed his men, and then returned to Lordaeron to kill his dad and bring about the Fall of Lordaeron. (There's more to it, but I recommend reading "Arthas: Rise of the Lich King" for his story. Written by Christie Golden, it's an amazing read.
Beredric i will look into that. thank you
Nixx pls,know the fact we NEED more true stories and more FCKING MALFURION
Please do a part 2 soon
what if illidan started a second campaign against arthas rather than becoming a bitch, thus preventing his fall in outland and making arthas awaken earlier
I think this is your best alternative history video you've ever made.
Why didn't you have Arthas just sail to Kalimdor with his people?
His lore is so awesome and interesting. Don't ruin this for me. :x
I guess the Elves were just chilling this whole time?
Thanks, Sylvanas.
good shit
I honestly love this "what if" situation and what you thought would happen but I think you forgot about Jaina being the daughter of Grand Admiral Daelin Proudmoore. Sure he showed up late, but he chased after her. And seeing as they didn't flee to Kalimdor his forces would instead land on the shores of Lordaeron, sending the might of kul tiras seeing as his daughter is now Queen of Lordaeron. But still great
I prefer krucial version
william cortes poppe de carvalho lol. tuga?
If Arthas never turned Evil, then we didnt Need to farm that Mount for years. 😑
yay, I can go to sleep listening to your voice :3
Really thoroughly enjoying these. Please never stop, this stuff makes my inner geek happy
Well, damn! That was pretty engrossing tale-weaving. You really should continue with a part 2.
I would also love it if later down the line Arthas takes Darion's place as Highlord of the Ebon Blade.
This was so EPIC! Like reading a short story. Love the parallels. Very well done!!
The bronze dragons should go back and turn him good again....
The Plague reminds me of Tiberium Infestation.
Absolute top quality. I enjoyed watching this very much. Thank you for making it.
What if gul'dan didn't abandoned the horde in the second war?
What if the headless horseman never killed his wife and became the headless horseman
As Thanos once said, “I am inevitable”
You kind of sounds like Arthas's voice actor :0
Darn you death knight soothing my enraged heart with your sweet dulcet voice.