This is the perfect install video. Don't show us the perfect scenario, show us what it's ACTUALLY like to install and what we need to look out for. I learned more about this rack in this video than every other one I have watched combined. Thank you sir.
Thank you! I just received my rack and have the same concrete foundation and base board issue. I’ve been contemplating my layout for this exact reason as I will need to start at least 10” from floor elevation to sit bottom stringer. Will determine my height with post
Yesssss, thank you for showing us what went wrong, and how to prevent your mistakes! I'm watching this AFTER having mounted my bottom stringer, so I'm hoping I don't have to adjust like you did, but even so, you saved me the same mistake on that top stringer. Literally so thankful. To you, all the gainzzz
Really appreciate this and you listing the issues you ran into. I'm hoping to mount mine (disclaimer, the boxes have been sitting in my basement for > 9 months now) this week. My hesitancy was always anticipating the exact issues you dealt with - namely getting the proper height of the stringers. So thanks for essentially providing me with a dry-run via this video.
That is awesome! So funny you have been procrastinating your build for 9 months. LOL! I was the same way I knew I could do but I also knew it was going to be a lot of work. The stringers are the only challenge. Glad my video helped. Good luck on your build, no more procrastinating!
Thank you thank you thank you for sharing the stringer issue. This is the only video I've found that actually covers the most critical and difficult part of the installation - the stringer height. I got one used and didn't have the instructions. Also apparently rogue doesn't have their instructions posted on their site??? Great job explaining how to set the stringer height properly.
Thanks for the video! Sharing the issue you ran into with the Stringers was very helpful and kept us from having a similar problem that you experienced the first attempt. So many "how to" videos show it to be easy/error free. If it were that easy, we wouldnt need a "how to" guide!
Right! It is so cool reading your comment because I felt the same way. I watched every video I could find on UA-cam and not one of them explained what I needed to know. Thanks!
I rarely leave comments on youtube but I have to say your instructions, insight, and review pushed me from being on the fence with this rack. Excellent video. Ordering mine today.
I also have to install my stringer a bit higher due to a cement strip and wood beam that goes across the bottom so I'm glad I found this video, good stuff!
Thanks for posting this video. I am interested in this rack but was worried because I have a 4 inch cement lip in my garage. I wasn’t sure how the install would look. Now I do. Appreciate you sharing this.
I’m exactly the same way brother. I like to think I can do and fix things in my home, with the help of UA-cam of course. The videos I come across always seem to be easy until I do the job and it takes me a lot longer then expected. Good job on the video.
I think you probably could have glued some sort of spacer/padding to the bottom of the feet, adding ~1" and you wouldn't have had to shift and remount your stringers lower.
THANK YOU! I have the same type of garage as you and I came across your video and it was extremely helpful! I appreciate your humility! Great video 👊🏻👊🏻👊🏻
Recently sold our home and had to redo the wall rack installation in the new house but it’s been a while. Super helpful video and loved the tip about attaching the crossmembers into the supports first.
Thanks! I made sure the stringers were level and I have not had any issues, the slope of the garage floor is minimal in my garage. The best case would be to mount it on the back wall of the garage but that was not an option for my install.
great video dude. I got the titan version of this rack. I've installed it twice and messed up with the height of the stringers both times. put them too high. I didn't want to drill more holes so close to the old holes so. I built wood shims to fit underneath the front feet.
At least I'm not the only one! I watched all the videos before I installed mine and everyone else made it look so easy. It is worth it though, I love mine now that I got it perfect!
Thanks for the descriptive video. My rack arrives today and I’ve been a little nervous about building this. Question for you, I also have the cement at the bottom of my walls in my garage. I’m assuming this is part of my foundation. Would it be bad if I mounted the bottom stringer into the concrete? This way I could keep the original measurements from the instructions.
I'm not sure. I'm guessing it would just as secure. But it probably is not necessary, the instructions allow for height adjustments. Sorry I couldn't be more help. Good luck on your install!
Great video, glad you included your mistake - likely something I would have ran into myself so helping others prevent their own mistakes. What size crescent wrench did you have to use to not show damage to the nuts/bolts? 12”+?
Thanks! I almost got the lite but at the last minute went for the plain monster. I love all my Rogue equipment, it is top of the line. Thanks for the comment! I just checked out your channel! Dang! You are putting in some work on your rack! Great videos! Keep grinding!
If i’m understanding this stringer error correctly, whatever measurement we need for the bottom of the stringer, we should subtract about a 1/4” from that so we don’t end up with the stringer supporting the weight?
That is correct. If I were doing my installation over I would do exactly what you described then I would get someone to hold one of the uprights in place with the cross piece on the wall and then check that my stringer is in the correct position.
Thanks! I had no option because of the spacing of the studs in my garage. It seems really sturdy on 3 studs and I had no problems benching and squatting 4 plates on it. If I was using the maximum weight the rack says it can handle I would be more concerned. But that is just my experience and not based on any engineering facts.
I got the 21.25 so it can close all the way inward without over lapping. The larger one you have to fold it outward or just let the arms over lap which means they would not be flush on the wall.
Just wondering how this unit is travelling having only been installed on 3 studs? Curious as I am in the scenario where I am about to install my stringers on 3 studs or use a piece of 12×2" piece of timber across 5 studs
It has never given me any issues. I have used it to bench and squat 405. My thought was the fold out arms support most of the weight if it is installed correctly. With that said it would be best to use 4 studs as instructed if possible especially if using heavier weights.
Mine is close to level. I made sure the stringers were level and my end result was perfect. Someone that has a greater slope in their garage may need to mount on the back wall.
Because of the spacing of the studs in my wall I could only use 3 studs, you are suppose to use 4 studs and 8 screws but in my case I had no other option.
Very helpful video. Thank you. I'm planning on buying the same rack. The base of the wall in my garage juts out like yours but goes up about 19 inches off the floor. The lower stringer would have to be roughly 20 inches high. Do you think that would work or is it too high?
You need to make sure your ceiling is high enough to allow enough distance between your stringers. From the top of your "baseboard" you need 89-3/8" to the bolt in the top stringer. Checck out the instruction page I included in the video to get a better idea. ua-cam.com/video/daDhG2Hba0k/v-deo.html
FYI - This is for the monster only, the Monster Light has different hardware. The bolt and nut are 1 1/2 inch diameter. I bought a 15" Adjustable Wrench and used a Channel Lock to hold the nut while I turned the bolt with the wrench. Hope that helps!
I used horse stall matts from Tractor Supply Co. they were $50 a matt. They are so much better than a thin expensive flooring you get online. Glad the video was helpful!
@@alejandro.a.m The RM-3W is the full-size monster rack and the RML-3W is the lite version. The lite has smaller holes, a different chin-up bar style, and costs about $75 less. The biggest difference is each has different accessories like safety bars stc. The accessories on the RML-3w are less bulky and less expensive. What I did was pull up each one side by side on the Rogue page and compare them and their accessories to decide.
RM (Rogue Monster) VS RML (Rogue Monster Lite) - The RM has larger holes and the add on pieces are bigger and more expensive. Also the RM top stringer is mounted higher on the wall. I wanted the bigger space between stringers so I could mount a larger mirror.
The RM was only $80 more than the RML but the add on pieces are also more expensive, which adds up. The safety bars for the RM are over $100 more than the ones for the RML for example.
Go to Rogues website and pull up the RM-3W and in another window pull up the RML-3W and side by side you will see the differences. I was just like you and it took me awhile to figure out what was different. Hope that helps!
@@ChallengeTheory thank you. Can you tell me the height of both stringers ? In RM and RML. I need it to prepare the wall. Thanks in advance. (Or where can I see that ??)
@@alejandro.a.m At 2:02 in the video I show the instructions for the RM-3W which for bottom edge of bottom stringer is 2 1/8" from floor and bottom edge of top stringer is 80 1/8" from floor. I don't have the RML-3W instructions any more but I remember the distance to the top stringer was approximately 6 inches less.
For the RM-3W the distance between the top of your cement lip (which is now acting as your floor) and the top bolt on the top stringer must be 89-3/8". You need to make sure that your ceiling is tall enough to accommodate the top stringer since your cement lip is so high. Hope that helps.
When you mount the stringers you have to use a level. I think most garage floors have a slope for drainage. I put my stringer on the wall with some wood screws that I put in half way. I then leveled it and adjusted the wood screws until the stringer was level. Then I took out the wood screws and used the wood bolts to attach it. It was a pain but once I got it mounted I have had no issues. I love my rack. Hope that helps.
That does help, but I guess I’m more curious about if the bar is noticeably uneven when you go to lift or rerack after benching. My thought is even if the stringers are level, one side of the rack would be higher than the other since the brackets on the stringer let the rack move a little. I thought that might have been the reason it was stuck on the bracket the first time you tried it.
@@joshuaharkness2630 Gotcha. My garage floor does not have that much of a slope so I can't say for sure if yours would be worse. If you can't mount it on the back wall then the only other option would be a cage rack and that would have the entire cage at a slope which may not be better. Good luck on your decision!
bro this instructions from Rogue were pathetic. gotta give yourself some grace to make mistakes. in the end it's setup right and functional even if it took a bit longer.
Dude. We’re all like you. I appreciate you showing the problems you ran into. Definitely helps the next guy!!
Thank you!
This is the perfect install video. Don't show us the perfect scenario, show us what it's ACTUALLY like to install and what we need to look out for. I learned more about this rack in this video than every other one I have watched combined. Thank you sir.
Bro! Thank you for the comment. I watched every video I could find on this rack and I thought the same thing. Awesome to hear, thanks!
Finally a video that shows the process of installing the heights of the stringers. Thank you sir.
I knew someone would appreciate this video! LOL - glad it was helpful.
Best install video by far. The other one i watched the guys had a two inch gap from the bottom of the vertical beam to the floor lol
Thank you! I watched them all myself and had to figure it out on my own. It is cool to hear my video was helpful.
Thank you! I just received my rack and have the same concrete foundation and base board issue. I’ve been contemplating my layout for this exact reason as I will need to start at least 10” from floor elevation to sit bottom stringer. Will determine my height with post
Glad my video was helpful! Good luck on your install!
This was SO helpful. Now I understand how to space the stringers (vertically) and how the uprights have some play on the pin. Thanks for posting.
That's awesome, glad it was helpful.
Yesssss, thank you for showing us what went wrong, and how to prevent your mistakes! I'm watching this AFTER having mounted my bottom stringer, so I'm hoping I don't have to adjust like you did, but even so, you saved me the same mistake on that top stringer. Literally so thankful. To you, all the gainzzz
Thank you, brother! Yeah, this is the video I wish I could have seen before I built mine. Glad it helped you.
Really appreciate this and you listing the issues you ran into. I'm hoping to mount mine (disclaimer, the boxes have been sitting in my basement for > 9 months now) this week. My hesitancy was always anticipating the exact issues you dealt with - namely getting the proper height of the stringers. So thanks for essentially providing me with a dry-run via this video.
That is awesome! So funny you have been procrastinating your build for 9 months. LOL! I was the same way I knew I could do but I also knew it was going to be a lot of work. The stringers are the only challenge. Glad my video helped. Good luck on your build, no more procrastinating!
Thank you thank you thank you for sharing the stringer issue. This is the only video I've found that actually covers the most critical and difficult part of the installation - the stringer height. I got one used and didn't have the instructions. Also apparently rogue doesn't have their instructions posted on their site???
Great job explaining how to set the stringer height properly.
That's awesome! I knew someone else out there would need to know this. Glad the video helped! Thanks for the comment.
Thanks for the video! Sharing the issue you ran into with the Stringers was very helpful and kept us from having a similar problem that you experienced the first attempt. So many "how to" videos show it to be easy/error free. If it were that easy, we wouldnt need a "how to" guide!
Right! It is so cool reading your comment because I felt the same way. I watched every video I could find on UA-cam and not one of them explained what I needed to know. Thanks!
I rarely leave comments on youtube but I have to say your instructions, insight, and review pushed me from being on the fence with this rack. Excellent video. Ordering mine today.
Nice! I need to send Rogue this comment and see if they will sponsor me on the safety bars I want to buy! Thanks!
Thanks for sharing. Answered my questioned regarding height of the stringers - Thanks for the heads up!
Awesome. I'm glad my video helped!
I appreciate your video! I was expecting to put 76 holes into my wall trying to figure this out.
That's awesome, at least I'm not the only one that has to install things twice every time!
I also have to install my stringer a bit higher due to a cement strip and wood beam that goes across the bottom so I'm glad I found this video, good stuff!
That's awesome! So glad my video was helpful. Good luck with your gym build!
This is exactly what I needed. I have a cement lip at the bottom of my garage as well. Thanks.
That's so cool, glad my video was helpful!
This is by far the best installation video I've found for this wall rack. Thank you.
Thank you!
Thanks for posting this video. I am interested in this rack but was worried because I have a 4 inch cement lip in my garage. I wasn’t sure how the install would look. Now I do. Appreciate you sharing this.
That's awesome, I still love mine.
I’m exactly the same way brother. I like to think I can do and fix things in my home, with the help of UA-cam of course. The videos I come across always seem to be easy until I do the job and it takes me a lot longer then expected. Good job on the video.
Thank you so much, glad I'm not the only one. I always feel great about my projects once they're done, lol.
I think you probably could have glued some sort of spacer/padding to the bottom of the feet, adding ~1" and you wouldn't have had to shift and remount your stringers lower.
That would have worked too but it was definitely worth the time to remount it and get it perfect.
THANK YOU! I have the same type of garage as you and I came across your video and it was extremely helpful! I appreciate your humility! Great video 👊🏻👊🏻👊🏻
That's awesome! Thank you. I watched a bunch of videos before I built my rack and not one had the info I needed. So glad my video helped!
Recently sold our home and had to redo the wall rack installation in the new house but it’s been a while. Super helpful video and loved the tip about attaching the crossmembers into the supports first.
That's awesome! So glad my video helped!
Just found this rack barbell and bench on market place! This vid should help me install it
I love my rack! Hope your install goes good, glad my video was helpful!
Thank you for this video! We were afraid to make your mistake. Your instructions are very helpful
Thanks for the comment! That is so cool that my video helped.
This is very helpful and thank you for showing your mistake. There's nothing to be embarrassed about, I'm sure this is something I would have missed.
Right! I appreciate that. So glad my video was helpful!
Great video! Like many have said, best video so far. Did you have any issues with your garage slope?
Thanks! I made sure the stringers were level and I have not had any issues, the slope of the garage floor is minimal in my garage. The best case would be to mount it on the back wall of the garage but that was not an option for my install.
Love this detailed video on Rogue. It looks like the Cadillac of home work out equipment.
It is! Wait until you see the completed garage gym, it is going to be epic!
Thank you! I have the same cement lip. And I was unsure what to do.
I'm so glad to hear my video helped! Good luck installing your rack!
@@ChallengeTheory thanks for this!
@@kinch04 Glad it helped!
Awesome review, exactly what I was looking for
That's awesome! Thanks for the comment.
Very instructional and glad to see some of the pitfalls to avoid. Thanks...
Thanks!
Dude I had the same problem and found your video before finishing it
great video dude. I got the titan version of this rack. I've installed it twice and messed up with the height of the stringers both times. put them too high. I didn't want to drill more holes so close to the old holes so. I built wood shims to fit underneath the front feet.
Thank you for the video, I made the same mistakes you did and have to remount.
At least I'm not the only one! I watched all the videos before I installed mine and everyone else made it look so easy. It is worth it though, I love mine now that I got it perfect!
Thanks! Installing mine today!
Awesome! Good luck with your install.
Thanks for the descriptive video. My rack arrives today and I’ve been a little nervous about building this. Question for you, I also have the cement at the bottom of my walls in my garage. I’m assuming this is part of my foundation. Would it be bad if I mounted the bottom stringer into the concrete? This way I could keep the original measurements from the instructions.
I'm not sure. I'm guessing it would just as secure. But it probably is not necessary, the instructions allow for height adjustments. Sorry I couldn't be more help. Good luck on your install!
I’m about to begin an install. Thanks for the advice about the stringer height.
Thank You. Most practical vid on this.
Thank you! This is the video I wished I had before I started my build.
Thanks for sharing your mistakes with your successes!
Thank you! I knew there would be some people out there that it would help!
thank you for putting the plates on with flat side out. lol thats the way it should be imo
It's the only way!
Much lover brother! You just saved me a lot of time and cursing, I would have made the exact same mistake you did!
That's awesome! I watched every video that was on line before I built mine and everyone looked like they had no issues. Glad it helped!
Sponsorship potential here on the road to 405.
Yeah right!
Great video, glad you included your mistake - likely something I would have ran into myself so helping others prevent their own mistakes.
What size crescent wrench did you have to use to not show damage to the nuts/bolts? 12”+?
Thanks! The wrench is 15" / 375 mm.
Great video. Thanks
Thanks!
Great video ! I have the monster lite version. I need to do a review 👍
Thanks! I almost got the lite but at the last minute went for the plain monster. I love all my Rogue equipment, it is top of the line. Thanks for the comment!
I just checked out your channel! Dang! You are putting in some work on your rack! Great videos! Keep grinding!
@@ChallengeTheory 😂 Thanks for subscribing. Yeah , I try and make the most of it !
I’ll be uploading a new video this afternoon. Stay tuned 😁
If i’m understanding this stringer error correctly, whatever measurement we need for the bottom of the stringer, we should subtract about a 1/4” from that so we don’t end up with the stringer supporting the weight?
That is correct. If I were doing my installation over I would do exactly what you described then I would get someone to hold one of the uprights in place with the cross piece on the wall and then check that my stringer is in the correct position.
This is a great video! Question: Do you think mounting on 3 studs v. the recommended 4 had any negative affect?
Thanks! I had no option because of the spacing of the studs in my garage. It seems really sturdy on 3 studs and I had no problems benching and squatting 4 plates on it. If I was using the maximum weight the rack says it can handle I would be more concerned. But that is just my experience and not based on any engineering facts.
Great video! A question for you. What distance did you get from the wall? The 21.25 or the 41.5? Thank you!
I got the 21.25 so it can close all the way inward without over lapping. The larger one you have to fold it outward or just let the arms over lap which means they would not be flush on the wall.
Just wondering how this unit is travelling having only been installed on 3 studs? Curious as I am in the scenario where I am about to install my stringers on 3 studs or use a piece of 12×2" piece of timber across 5 studs
It has never given me any issues. I have used it to bench and squat 405. My thought was the fold out arms support most of the weight if it is installed correctly. With that said it would be best to use 4 studs as instructed if possible especially if using heavier weights.
Is your garage really level or slightly sloped? Did you have to do any special adjustment?
Mine is close to level. I made sure the stringers were level and my end result was perfect. Someone that has a greater slope in their garage may need to mount on the back wall.
Thank you
So glad my video helped!
Question, why did you put only 6 screws per stringen then 8?
Because of the spacing of the studs in my wall I could only use 3 studs, you are suppose to use 4 studs and 8 screws but in my case I had no other option.
Very helpful video. Thank you. I'm planning on buying the same rack. The base of the wall in my garage juts out like yours but goes up about 19 inches off the floor. The lower stringer would have to be roughly 20 inches high. Do you think that would work or is it too high?
You need to make sure your ceiling is high enough to allow enough distance between your stringers. From the top of your "baseboard" you need 89-3/8" to the bolt in the top stringer. Checck out the instruction page I included in the video to get a better idea. ua-cam.com/video/daDhG2Hba0k/v-deo.html
This is for the RM, the RML is a smaller distance between stringers, so that may be an option if you can't fit the RM. Hope that helps, Good luck!
What size socket do I need for bolts on the upright?
FYI - This is for the monster only, the Monster Light has different hardware. The bolt and nut are 1 1/2 inch diameter. I bought a 15" Adjustable Wrench and used a Channel Lock to hold the nut while I turned the bolt with the wrench. Hope that helps!
What rubber flooring did you go with?? Thank you for this. Very helpful.
I used horse stall matts from Tractor Supply Co. they were $50 a matt. They are so much better than a thin expensive flooring you get online. Glad the video was helpful!
Hello!! What’s the difference between R-3W and RML-3W ROGUE RACK ?? Why it’s different price ?? Thank you
@@alejandro.a.m The RM-3W is the full-size monster rack and the RML-3W is the lite version. The lite has smaller holes, a different chin-up bar style, and costs about $75 less. The biggest difference is each has different accessories like safety bars stc. The accessories on the RML-3w are less bulky and less expensive. What I did was pull up each one side by side on the Rogue page and compare them and their accessories to decide.
Hello!! What’s the difference between R-3W and RML-3W ROGUE RACK ?? Why it’s different price ?? Thank you
RM (Rogue Monster) VS RML (Rogue Monster Lite) - The RM has larger holes and the add on pieces are bigger and more expensive. Also the RM top stringer is mounted higher on the wall. I wanted the bigger space between stringers so I could mount a larger mirror.
The RM was only $80 more than the RML but the add on pieces are also more expensive, which adds up. The safety bars for the RM are over $100 more than the ones for the RML for example.
Go to Rogues website and pull up the RM-3W and in another window pull up the RML-3W and side by side you will see the differences. I was just like you and it took me awhile to figure out what was different. Hope that helps!
@@ChallengeTheory thank you. Can you tell me the height of both stringers ? In RM and RML. I need it to prepare the wall. Thanks in advance. (Or where can I see that ??)
@@alejandro.a.m At 2:02 in the video I show the instructions for the RM-3W which for bottom edge of bottom stringer is 2 1/8" from floor and bottom edge of top stringer is 80 1/8" from floor. I don't have the RML-3W instructions any more but I remember the distance to the top stringer was approximately 6 inches less.
I have a 9 inch tall cement lip that protrudes about 3 inches. Will I be fine installing the rm 3w?
For the RM-3W the distance between the top of your cement lip (which is now acting as your floor) and the top bolt on the top stringer must be 89-3/8". You need to make sure that your ceiling is tall enough to accommodate the top stringer since your cement lip is so high. Hope that helps.
Check out this instructions page at this point in the video to see where I am getting that info. ua-cam.com/video/daDhG2Hba0k/v-deo.html
What lag screws did you end up using? or did it come with them?
They came with it, they were just wood lag bolts, I think they were 2.5 inches long.
What’s the distance for your studs?
They were not evenly spaced on that wall in my garage. 1 set I used was 24" apart and the 3rd one was closer to 18" away.
Is safe mounted in gypsum?
Sorry I don't know the answer. Maybe message Rouge.
Hi approx how much does each of those uprights weigh?
Just guessing about 50 lbs. They were heavy and awkward to hold in place alone.
Did you have any issues with your garage being uneven? I’m hesitant to buy this because my garage has a slight slope.
When you mount the stringers you have to use a level. I think most garage floors have a slope for drainage. I put my stringer on the wall with some wood screws that I put in half way. I then leveled it and adjusted the wood screws until the stringer was level. Then I took out the wood screws and used the wood bolts to attach it. It was a pain but once I got it mounted I have had no issues. I love my rack. Hope that helps.
That does help, but I guess I’m more curious about if the bar is noticeably uneven when you go to lift or rerack after benching. My thought is even if the stringers are level, one side of the rack would be higher than the other since the brackets on the stringer let the rack move a little. I thought that might have been the reason it was stuck on the bracket the first time you tried it.
You saying that you still love it makes me feel like it’s not an issue though. I really appreciate your help!
@@joshuaharkness2630 Gotcha. My garage floor does not have that much of a slope so I can't say for sure if yours would be worse. If you can't mount it on the back wall then the only other option would be a cage rack and that would have the entire cage at a slope which may not be better. Good luck on your decision!
@@ChallengeTheory thank you!
Are you still happy with it?
Yes! I love it. Best purchase of my home gym equipment. It is still solid and perfect. I benched my 405 life time max on it about 1 month ago!
@@ChallengeTheory that's awesome
bro this instructions from Rogue were pathetic. gotta give yourself some grace to make mistakes. in the end it's setup right and functional even if it took a bit longer.
Thank you! I got it done correctly eventually and I still love it.
you did great ! thanks for your honesty !!!
Thanks!