This is what’s called running the Conrail way! Of coarse the EMD screams away here holding its own. I watched this scenario play out one night on the NBER secondary pulling upgrade out of Tyrone through Bald Eagle. 114 coal loads, three (leader not loading) SD40-2’s. Crew radioed dispatch and told them they would likely stall in the middle of Tyrone. Dispatch comes on and says “movement desk says to go and see how far you get”. Amazing that they made it almost 3 miles before stalling. The sound of those two old EMDs battling though was incredible.
Not that but there was a problem with one of those engines. Wet rails, steep grades and not enough power don't mix. He barely had enough power to make it over. He stalled because he wasn't gonna make it over the 2nd hill during the curve
That dash 9 belongs in the containers with the garbage. They wheel slip like none other. Plus doesn't help that their paperwork was probably wrong. I've gotten this train numerous times and the paperwork was all jacked. According to the paperwork it would say something like 5000 tons when in reality it was more like 9000 tons
All that wheel slip/spin can't be good for the rail or the wheels. I have seen quite a few trains stall on this grade. Almost only counts in horse shoes, shot guns, hand grenades, and thermal nuclear devices. Over the decades, I got flack for having some redundancy. But while others come up short one way or another, I get things done. I say "It is better to have it and not need it than to need it and not have it." You can qquote me on that.
It doesn't matter how many locomotives you have, if they are not geared for low speed heavy hauling service, then they will stall out.because when you have locomotives that are geared for high speed trains,what you will get is reduced reactive effort at low speeds! And the traction motors will burn up because they are turning too slowly to absorb all the energy produced by the engine and the generator set.the solution is to reheat the locomotives to a lower gear ratio. If this railroad had any common sense, they would not put high speed locomotives on a heavy, slow drag freight!because these units are not supposed to be used for drag freight service when they are geared for high speed trains! Here is the math! If you have a locomotive that is geared for high speed trains, and you put her on a slow drag freight, what you will get is reduced reactive effort at low speeds! A locomotive that has a gear ratio of 62 to 15,will pull the train up the hill better than a locomotive that has a gear ratio of 74to 18!now,what you see here is two locomotives that should not be used for drag freight on steep grades!anybody with brains will tell you that you should use locomotives that have a lower gear ratio than to use a locomotive that has a higher gear ratio of 71to 71 gear ratio! So, ns gets an f for failure to pur a quarter of lower geared locomotives on this train!
This is what’s called running the Conrail way! Of coarse the EMD screams away here holding its own. I watched this scenario play out one night on the NBER secondary pulling upgrade out of Tyrone through Bald Eagle. 114 coal loads, three (leader not loading) SD40-2’s. Crew radioed dispatch and told them they would likely stall in the middle of Tyrone. Dispatch comes on and says “movement desk says to go and see how far you get”. Amazing that they made it almost 3 miles before stalling. The sound of those two old EMDs battling though was incredible.
Awesome catch!
You can tell NS has a lot of new people.
And they have let alot of people go.
Heavy train, wet rail, and mountain grades don't mix, trust me.
Not that but there was a problem with one of those engines. Wet rails, steep grades and not enough power don't mix. He barely had enough power to make it over. He stalled because he wasn't gonna make it over the 2nd hill during the curve
That dash 9 belongs in the containers with the garbage. They wheel slip like none other. Plus doesn't help that their paperwork was probably wrong. I've gotten this train numerous times and the paperwork was all jacked. According to the paperwork it would say something like 5000 tons when in reality it was more like 9000 tons
Agreed. That’s pretty interesting btw
One train stalls and another comes along like, "This is how it's done."
63V is always super loud and super heavy
Nice catch of the slow garbage train. #TeamTrains
Rockin Randall7788 Your welcome.
If there’s one train you really need helpers on it’s the loaded trash
Nice catch! What park and state is this? Would be cool to visit.
Ya just gonna heart it and not tell me?
@@twenger1its in Altoona Pennsylvania
Too many carts, not enough horses!
He had enough power. But one of the engine quit working so he had only 1 technically working out of the 2
Nice video
someone needs to push on the back!
did it stall? or was it just letting another train by?
Stalled out
What was the purpose of showing nothing for the first 4 minutes?
All that wheel slip/spin can't be good for the rail or the wheels. I have seen quite a few trains stall on this grade. Almost only counts in horse shoes, shot guns, hand grenades, and thermal nuclear devices. Over the decades, I got flack for having some redundancy. But while others come up short one way or another, I get things done. I say "It is better to have it and not need it than to need it and not have it." You can qquote me on that.
It doesn't matter how many locomotives you have, if they are not geared for low speed heavy hauling service, then they will stall out.because when you have locomotives that are geared for high speed trains,what you will get is reduced reactive effort at low speeds! And the traction motors will burn up because they are turning too slowly to absorb all the energy produced by the engine and the generator set.the solution is to reheat the locomotives to a lower gear ratio. If this railroad had any common sense, they would not put high speed locomotives on a heavy, slow drag freight!because these units are not supposed to be used for drag freight service when they are geared for high speed trains! Here is the math! If you have a locomotive that is geared for high speed trains, and you put her on a slow drag freight, what you will get is reduced reactive effort at low speeds! A locomotive that has a gear ratio of 62 to 15,will pull the train up the hill better than a locomotive that has a gear ratio of 74to 18!now,what you see here is two locomotives that should not be used for drag freight on steep grades!anybody with brains will tell you that you should use locomotives that have a lower gear ratio than to use a locomotive that has a higher gear ratio of 71to 71 gear ratio! So, ns gets an f for failure to pur a quarter of lower geared locomotives on this train!
How'd they get it going again?
Cool
Until the Management types understand that you cant stuff 20 lbs. of s**t in a 10lb.sack, nothings gonna change.
The ACU just couldn't do it solo dolo
@@rgood7788 I'm surprised it made it that far
"A Very Loud Slow and Heavy NS Garbage Train Stalls"
The Trump Train.....
Says one of the useful idiots that supports the Biden regime.