PS5 Pro GPU Specs: Good Enough To Make A Difference vs Vanilla PS5?
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I have a PS5 box here that has an 8k sticker on it, non of sony's PS marketing can be taken seriously.
Yes I’m looking at mine and right beside the 8K there is a 4K/120FPS and HDR😂 not falling ever again for their bs marketing.
Sad thing is it probably worked on some people I had to talk a friend down from buying an 8k TV when he bought the PS5
I’m always trying to tell people that the highest end PCs can’t even do it. What makes them think a system with 6 year old tech inside can. Lol
*it. None
4K gaming was a lie,
glad I'm still gaming on my old 1080p tv.
4K tv owners punching the air right now
The PS4 Pro added HDR and 4K support, keep in mind, so even if no games were actually optimized beyond these built-in features, that's a big upgrade just right there. Most people were just starting to buy 4K HDR televisions at that time, so there was added value.
God of war ps4 pro hdr 4k on a compressed UA-cam (hdr 1440p because my internet is bad) looked a lot better (I mean a lot) than it did running natively with hdr on my ps4 amuture.
When I reply it on ps5 with 60 fps 4k my brother thought it was a next gen exclusive. Damn!
AND it got an updated SATA-interface, which could take more advantage of an SSD. Perhaps that doesn't affect "performance" in games necessarily, but it definitely helps reduce loading-times, both for pre-loading as well ass just loading in assets on the fly. Plus of course other responsiveness as well as writing files. - I just wish an SSD was standard for the PS4 Pro, which would'be been perfect. But it was still a time that it would've been too expensive. - It also doesn't help that they literally included one of the slowest HDDs they could come up with. They definitely cut costs right there. - I feel bad for anyone who paid a premium price for a PS4 Pro and dealt with that HDD, waiting forever for games to load at least. - I got one very late and thus at a good discount, but put some money towards a good enough SSD (then just throwing the HDD in the pile of backup-drives), which was well worth it.
base ps4 had hdr
@trs8696 yes.
@@trs8696 Did it really? I have a launch PS4 and I couldn't make use of HDR for KH3. PC release sorted that for me :(
Man I just want 1440p 60 fps. A lot of launch titles gave that, sometimes 4K 60. 1080p doesnt look great on a 4K TV and 30fps without motion smoothing isnt great on an OLED TV either. I'm just asking Sony for the bare mimimum to have a decent gaming experience.
@Greymatter-to3th I highly doubt the ps5 pro will even run gta 6 above 30fps
You need a pc
Buy a PC with a rtx 4080super and stop comparing lol !!
It feels like we're getting further from that with worse image quality as it goes on...
@@Ben256MB too expensive
I still don’t get how they did so much with the ps4 and ps4 pro while they were so weak and this console generation we feel like we barely explored it and now we need a pro? I feel like we need to drop previous gen consoles once and for all and just make exclusive games for current gen
I still don't get how this is a issue for people who won't get the console 😂 If you have a PS5 and are happy with it, why do upset that others get to have another option. It's not hurting you. Now I understand the hate from Xbox fanboys
1080p, 30fps, and no ray tracing was basically what PS4 gen was. 1080p to 1440p is a big increase in resources, nevermind 1080p to 4k. 30fps to 60fps is also a big jump. Also, having ray tracing is unbelievably taxing.
@@60weHoodsta it’s an issue because it makes devs lazier and not optimizing games instead of looking for smart solutions like they did in the ps4 era
Look at death stranding 2. Fully next gen and it looks jaw dropping and we haven't even seen pro footage just base ps5.
Yes makes a huge difference- trying to get consoles to run 4K on what is essentially 2018-era PC hardware is a huge challenge @mza4739
45% increase in overall performance is pretty big, especially on the GPU side of things.
It’s not. 4k is twice as demanding as 1080p, for example on PC if you can run a game at 1080p60 you’ll run 4k at around 30fps, so a 45% increase is really not that much
Don't forget, the new upscaling technique will help facilitate the image quality even if it's not native 4k, that coupled with the increase in GPU power it'll help more games to hit 60fps provided if they're not too CPU bound. @@josef689
@@josef6894k is literally 4x 1080p.
@@kumiho1729 I know. But when a pc is running a game at 4k and you drop the resolution to 1080p you don’t get 4x the performance, you only get around 2x the performance.
And still not big enough for 60Fps 4K 😂😂
The GPU is a cut down of a 7800xt. If the suggested clocks stays as it is. Then the power draw is going to be likely 220 - 240. The 7800xt peak wattage is ,270 watts. The ps5 pro will do just fine in terms of power.
Will it have fidelity mode at 60 FPS? That's all I wanted to know
Why wouldn't it be on TMSC N4P? That's more likely. It would definitely keep the Pro's TDP within the typical ~200w window or thereabouts.
Because the newer nodes are more expensive, significantly so. Same reason Nvidia isn't using N3 and the Switch 2 is staying in the jurassic 8 nm node.
Only high-end smartphones running small chips at lower frequencies go for the cutting-edge nowadays.
@@deheavon6670 Nvidia WILL use TSMC 3nm. There's no reason to think that PS5 Pro wouldn't use at least 5nm. Nvidia Lovelace has been on it since September 2022, with the more mainstream cards since April 2023. By the end of 2024 TSMC 5nm will have been mainstream for 18 months, and the latest high end Nvidia cards will likely launch towards the end of this year on aforementioned 3nm. All signs point to production capacity and cost being adequate for at least 5nm. Citing cost as the reason makes sense for 3nm, but not for 5nm or even 4nm. Depending on what specific process it would be.
It won't be on 3nm because of cost but it should be on TSMC 5nm. Navi 32 is on 5nm so it seems obvious any PS5 Pro will be on an equivalent or better. Don't know why they keep saying it will be on 6nm. AMD will not redesign the graphics architecture to suit an older inferior process. I guarantee it is 5nm or better.
45% more raw performance with identical cpu and ram (outside of a small uplift in bandwidth) is really impressive. I think gpu bottlenecks will see a major improvement while overall raw processing means the system wont be doubling 1440p performance because they will run into cpu limitations. All we want is better performance with ray tracing and 60fps.
That's a significant uplift in GPU performance no way around and higher bandwidth plus more ram available for games. This console will be a monster. Don't let PSSP be as good as DLSS2 . We don't even know if the system is capable of frame generation. If these rumors become official official I'm buying.
45% uplift 4 years later is NOT impressive. lol
What's worse is that the cpu is almost unchanged meaning higher fps will not be achievable. You'll still be playing BG3 with hugs dips and Dragon's Dogma 2 at sub 30fps.
@@TheIndulgers kinda impressive how people watch this channel and still don't know how a bottleneck works. I can put a 4090 in the PS5 and the performance would still suck.
No, performance wouldn't suck lol. You'd be able to render a lot of games at 8K native.@@mnoise626
@@mnoise626explain please then
Custom AI silicon at 300 TOPS and PSSR along with more raw grunt will differentiate Pro from the base version. $100 more for a stable perf. and Spectral Super Res would be appealing for the core audience. For the casuals base would do
200 bucks more ......
@@nflisrigged1395
$699 console
$79 disc drive
$29 stand
$810 total
Diff - $310
sadly D.O.A.
If they advertise it as 40% upgrade, it is basically the maximum in theory and it would average 15-20% increase. So if it runs at 1440p and 50-60fps in performance mode, you can expect 60fps. But that is the most you can expect.
To: DF crew, Just do the math 33 is more than 10.
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Your long lost friend
Atari Jaguar 🤪
AMD pretty much doubled up TFlops with when they bought in double compute units with RDNA 3. However, it didn't relate in any shape or form, of doubling up the performance in games. The gains made where minimal at best. Pretty much a 33TF GPU on RDNA 3 would be equivalent to around a 18TF GPU on RDNA 2 (like the PS5 is using). You aren't going to see anywhere close to triple the performance due to going from 10TF on RDNA 2 to 33TF on RDNA 3 (A 50% increase at best). Also an increase in TFlops doesn't scale proportionly to the performance increase that you will see in games.
It also highlights one of the main reasons why using TFlops as a measuring stick, is such a dumb, highly inaccurate and antiquated way to try and measure performance these days. And exactly why most PC techies, ditched it, years ago.
BTW, Nvidia also pulled off the same "trick", when they did a very simular thing.
@@fafski1199 "Do the math" was Atari Jaguar's marketing campaign during the bit wars. T-Flops is the new Bit. Look it up for a good laugh.
AAA performance on recent released titles is really more then worrying (wrong priorities IHMO). Was hoping, PS5 Pro could buy some time until devs fuck up optimization all over again because of some nice shadows or whatever.
Can you explain how to optimize shadows?
*more than (comparative)
*priorities, IMHO
*I was
*hoping PS5
the real issue here is the game developers and the publishers pushing deadlines.... the trend we are seeing lately is that either the graphic quality stays the same or it got worse, regardless, the image quality and performance is also dropping when it should be improving with time...
Hey so which are the games that are proven without doubt to be so cpu limited that you wont see a fps boost by doubling gpu proccesing power?
Keep hearing a few youtubers being disappointed that the cpu wasn't really upgraded between ps5 and ps5 pro, don't really provide a list of games that wont see any improvedments in frame times from upgrading to the ps5 pro.
Salty because MS isn’t doing a new console at this time.
That's because there isn't a game that's CPU limited. Only limited by what the programmers can do. Most modern games still only use 2-3 cpu cores
Dragons Dogma is one. Elden ring sort of sucked with CPU. Peformance mode on ps5 and series X still sucks. Even on my PC it didn't do so well in Limgrave. Heck, my brand new 4090 laptop still can't fully max out and maintain above 50 fps at 4k. Balldurs gate 3 .
The new plagues tale. It got optimizations later but struggled for a while. Gotham Knights.
I think games with raytracing can be more cpu limited
@@joshuam4993no thats a trash optimized game.
It's funny because when I upgraded my sons pc from a 2080 to a 3080 he got more than 30 extra fps lol
From what? The upgrade here is a little smaller but quite similar.
Lol, people have like 5% grasp of how computer parts actually work@@gillesfleury2619
On Fortnite...
i hope that kid isnt as stupid as you
flops measurement between RDNA 1/2 and RDNA 3/4 are different because the shaders are dual issue on RDNA 3 + vs RDNA 1/2 being single issue meaning that 33.5 tflops in rdna 3/4 is the same as 16.75 tflops in rdna 1/2 in single precision, so in actuality it's 16.75 tflops in traditional FLOPS
why power limited? can not they give it a higher power adaptor?
Yea, cause that's how that works...
Will not pass certifications then and Sony won't be able to sell it as a video games console.
"Expect to see some significant advances here" ... 0:11 *Alex' face impression says: "Not in my universe, Rich!"*
it’s pretty much 10.3 tflops vs 16.75 tflops (47% difference in tflops lines up with sony’s 45% faster perf claim)
I want my gears of war jump in gfx this gen.
Just want 60 fps on normal 4k tv ,not expensive 4k vrr 120 fps
PS5 Pro is like a Ferrari compared to a Mustang, however that Zen2 processor will limit the speedometer to 50mph.
Well it’s not going to be any worse, if you’ve got the money you might as well go for it. It’s kinda like upgrading one PC component.
I want this I want that lol. I’m a 80s kid, I grew up on Frogger and Dig Dug! Looking at today’s consoles and you lot just don’t know how good you have it!
Same thing we will tell our kids and the cycle shall continue until inevitably we kill ourselves with nuclear war or climate change just jokin
Just because you had it bad doesn't mean people should put aside their hopes and desires for the current generation.
@@nathaniliescutotherescue6047 Who’s saying I had it bad? At the time it was the greatest thing since sliced bread! Technology is forever progressing and that is the beauty of it, people just need to relax.
John, Can the pro run Crysis?
Yes
It looks like 7700XT in ps5 pro.
The PS5 Pro would need double performance or more, best bet for the jump in performance is an equivalent as good as a 7700XT or 7800XT with FSR3 then youre running everything at 60fps. Jumping to 4K native is a massive drain on the gpu but if using FSR you would upscale to 4K and probably hit 60 on some games, it’s so smooth you really wouldn’t know it’s not 4K native
Very informative, guys ! 👍🏼
*guys!
Ahh the tech wars babies in the comments… love to see it. Lol. As someone who has a PS5, a Switch, and a PC with a 4060ti, i914900k, and 64gb ram, I can say for what it is the PS5 is still a solid machine. Granted I have it only for the exclusives but they run well and look great
14900k and 4060Ti? What is that combination about?
@@blackwidow7804 that was a typo. It’s the 4070 ti. My motherboard was going so I used it as an excuse to upgrade my CPU as well. I know it’s overkill but I’m looking at it as the last CPU I’m buying for the next 4-5 years. The reason I didn’t go for the 4090 it’s because I’m not 4K gaming and my monitor is 144hz.. At 1440p I don’t need it. I can play damn near anything at max settings with 100+ FPS so that’s where I decided to save some money.
The PS5 Pro is said to be as powerful as a 7700 XT and the games are getting more demanding every year too, At that time even a 4080 would barely be enough for 4K 60. And don't expect the performance of a 5080 in a $500 console
@@randyrrs7028 that why these console shills make me laugh. Unrealistic expectations. They expect the moon for next to nothing. My entire PC setup, counting mouse, keyboard, monitors and everything that goes with it is close to $3000. The computer alone was between $1500-$2250 and I built it myself.
@ilikefartjokes Exactly! Console players expected like a 4080 level of performance on these consoles, and series s owners get mad when their games dont have a 60fps mode. You get what you pay for
Forget the performance. Where are the games, like the ps2 or ps3 had??
What? You find many great games on PS5 + all PS4 titles. Are you a casual gamer?
Just give me the upscaling, that’s the selling point for me 👍🏾.
PS5 Pro is a beast technically speaking.
The real question here is what the developers will do? will they try to use that extra horsepower or they won't care?....
We dont need RT. Focus more on decent res and fps. Leave RT for the PC ❤
This is the generation that is the less in need of pro consoles
45%? Wow. Im all in. Make it 599 and i Buy IT
so is this head and neck better than XSX? in terms of raw GPU power?
PS5 is almost the same as XSX, so Pro will be also 40 45% faster than XSX for existing games, but AI upscaling and RT capabilities could make image more visibly better for games to come.
@@gillesfleury2619 No it's not the same. The PS5 has 36 CU and a T flop of little over 10. The Xbox has 56 CU with 12 Tflop. The problem is developers are developing games on PS5 and porting them to Xbox. Most of the Features on Series X are not utilized.
What are you gonna do with that information...brag on Twitter how much more powerful it is compared to a Xbox? You gonna be all over "muh teraflopz"? You think MS is sitting idling around twiddling their thumbs and not have an upgraded console coming?
@@gillesfleury2619 No they are not the same, the Xbox Series X has 56 CU at 12 Tflops and the Playstation 5 has 36 CU at a little over 10 Tflops. The issue is that most developers are developing games on PS5 first and then porting to Xbox, so many Xbox features are not utilized.
@@gillesfleury2619 No they are not the same, the Xbox Series X has 56 CU at 12 Teraflops and the PlayStation 5 has 36 CU at a little over 10 Teraflops.
Sounds expensive, just what we need
i dont see the point of a ps5 pro
DD2 on current consoles is unplayable.., Pro will likely fix that.., same for games like Chrono Odyssey
One game alone will make the PS5 Pro worth it and that game is GTA6!
GTA5 for example was a better experience on PS4 Pro compared to PS4.
@@electrikoptik There were no differences between the PS4 and the PS4 Pro version of GTA 5. Rockstar didn't even bother making a patch for the PS4 Pro.
@VampireNoblesse the pro will fix noting
@electrikoptik still 30fps does that worth much?
A PS5 ultra will also be launched along with the pro one.
But….will it run dragons dogma 2 at 60fps??
no, thats a cpu issue, and pro has same cpu
Even PCs struggle... so it is mainly a developer issue. People focusing too much on bad performances. @@kennethflaming8606
It probably can, yes.
From what I've seen about the Ps5 Pro, it
seems like it will just improve the resolution
or ray tracing of the current performance
mode. Do you think the PS5 Pro will just be
an upgrade for those who play performance
mode on the base ps5? I wish the Ps5 pro
had its own fidelity mode at 30 fps but with
better graphics than the base model. I wanted
something like the difference in graphics on
the PC, from high to ultra, 4k on high would
be the base ps5 and the ps5 pro being 4k
on ultra in comparison. l'm not saying it that
would compete with the ultra graphics on pc,
but rather, between the two ps5 models, if
it is possible a visual diference in that level,
between playing everything on high and
playing on ultra. For those who prefer fidelity
mode at 30 fps, won't be worth buying the
PS5 Pro? The only graphical improvement
would be 2 to 3x better ray tracing? and for
games that may not use ray tracing. Like
Ghost, Tsushima 2 or Horizon 3, wouldn't
there be an improvement in fidelity mode for
these games? The fidelity mode will look the
same in both ps5 and the pro model? It would
only have a difference in the performance
mode? Can you pls explain more about this? I
want to understand it better
tf is this formatting...
It's a pro, not a ps6. Don't expect much. It ain't meant to replace the ps5 but only meant for buyers who are looking for specific spec upgrades. 45% improvement is good enough imo, just as the ps4 pro was a 50% improvement. I don't get why people complain. Seems like the pc spoiled kids. Consoles are here for a cheap alternative and they expect so much smh.
The PS5 Pro is said to be as powerful as the 7700 XT and the games are getting more demanding every year too, At that time even a 4080 would barely be enough for 4K 60. And don't expect the performance of a 5080 in a $500 console
Sony love to exaggerate. But I will be buying this day one to experience GTA6 in optimised settings ❤😂🎉
The CPU is disappointing. I thought they would at least upgrade the CPU to a 3000 series if not a 5000 series.
Is Alex a 6 on the Kinsey scale ?
No. Next question, please.
Anyone who buys this is either a PS fanboy or just not very smart.
I mean u sell ur ps5 u get at least 400 for it and then u add 200 and u got yourself the pro so it's like i f u can't afford that what the f*ck are u doing with ur life
Ima jus go back to PC
Of course, it's the same CPU because it's a mid-gen refresh (like the PS4 Pro and the Xbox One X). A lot of crying and entitled babies asking for Zen 3 or Zen 4 and keeping the same MSRP.
What gamers want: good and interesting games
What Sony thinks gamers want: 4k 120fps ray tracing, 20 bajillion polygons rendered a second, with load times faster than cartridges ever were. Oh yeah and here's a dozen remasters and remakes of games that you played over 10 years ago, and/or are also on PC
I mean I want that too lol
All I know is the Series S is better.
Love the series s my ps5 literally gathers dust
Yeah then why don’t you sell the ps5?
Idk, I think I'm just going to get a 4060/4070 Desktop, keep the PS5, maybe get a 6 if things improve. It started slowly, but with some great work, Demon Souls, Horizon, but it feels like the quality has declined... My RTX2050 Laptop can run some games better than the PS5, Baldurs Gate 3, Lies of P..and it's not because the PS5 is too weak for those games, people just aren't bothering to optimise specifically for it..
Dude honestly just save up abit more and get a 4080 super or 4090. My 4080 gets native 4k 120fps in almost every shooter game
The PS5 Pro is said to be as powerful as a 7700 XT and the games are getting more demanding every year too, At that time even a 4080 would barely be enough for 4K 60. And don't expect the performance of a 5080 in a $500 console
Good Enough? No, will people still buy ? Yeah.
It's so confusing
@Greymatter-to3th Probably, in some configuration. They'll probably have to lower the resolution, or vary it at least. And then there will be help of upscaling to keep performance up. - It could be around 60fps, with variations, because the game will of course be very inconsistent in its environments and events, as usual. - It also depends how well they optimize it. But then, they've learned a lot from dealing with GTA5 and RDR2, or at least I hope so... - I don't think it will be bad at least, cause that would be a mistake. They will probably botch the PC-port, though...
3k 60fps would be good enoough for most of us. we who play games, and just doesnt look at textures 24/7 to critic.
Yeah a more powerful console to play ps4 games, games take longer to develop these days 5 to 8 years, the moment we see games use the full power of this pro console, a ps6 will be on its way, so what is the point of all this, waste of hype and time.
Then also the PS6 will be a waste of hype and time, because games that would take advantage of it would only come out at least 5 years after its release. And so will the PS6 Pro be... and so will the PS7 be... - What's your point?... Never purchase and enjoy something?... OK
lol no.
The ps5 pro will be the most useless console ever
Almost as useless as the base PS5
Majority of PC gamers still play on 1080p per steam, but all of them have the nerves to talk down on consoles.😂😂
Ps4 pro?
No, You have Xbox series x
@@OcarinaHero93🤡
It’s a console… real life performance is always meh
gpu doesnt matter, Starfield and Dragons Dogma are clearly showing devs dont give a rats ass about anything but cpu
Those are 2 games out of 1000s 2 poorly optimised games too
Those are exceptions not the norm. Realistically most games are GPU bound not CPU.
I mean unreal 5 games are ass too.
@x0Fang0x I think unreal 5 will shine next gen the systems just aren't good enough atm
@@tristman8413 i meant across all platforms unreal 5 is ass. Infact unreal 5 is even more ass in PC than consoles.
What makes this console a “pro” version exactly?
Nothing, it was always a dumb name.
Smh. Dead on arrival
Sony hype again, I remember when Sony fanboys said the ps5 was as powerful as a rtx 2080 ti
Xbox is though 😅
@@brucewayne2955 I doubt raw performance it is
Remember when xbots said the sx will blow the ps5 away when half of the time the ps5 blows the xbox away 😂
Are u having shower arguments again?
I remeber when xbots were saying most powerful console when mkst gsnes perform better on PS5. Now we're getting xbox exclusive games on PS5 while xbox sales are down 45 percent year on year 😂 keep the games coming uncle Phil.
Just like to 2080 to 3080
PS5 is on par with rx 6700 and 2080
PS5 pro with rx 7700 xt and rtx 3080
The PS5 Pro is said to be as powerful as a 7700 XT and the games are getting more demanding every year too, At that time even a 4080 would barely be enough for 4K 60. And don't expect the performance of a 5080 in a $500 console
Since a direct war between NATO and Russia is likely to happen in the next few years, there is a possibility that we will be in a huge economic crisis without precedent in 2028 and in that case no PS6 will come onto the market. Therefore, I will buy the PS5 PRO and enjoy the moment, who knows what can happen in a couple of years.
Direct war with what ammunition production?
Exactly. A new gpu or PS6 is gonna be the last thing on peoples minds.
Who buy two PS5 Pro?
Why would someone need two?
@brucewayne2955 one for the bathroom and the other for the kitchen
The alternative is an xbox. Their good enough LOL 😅
All this talk and faffing about PS5 Pro, who cares. Most people who own a PS5 standard will jump too PS5 Pro, people like myself who haven't jumped from there PS4 will wait for PS5 Pro. Will i see a difference? of course i will. Ill be glad i waited
@Prep84You mean the Xb1 to the upgraded version. Now those numbers were atrocious
The PS5 Pro is said to be as powerful as a 7700 XT and the games are getting more demanding every year too, At that time even a 4080 would barely be enough for 4K 60. And don't expect the performance of a 5080 in a $500 console
These are the same guys that said 12 TF on the Xbox series x was way superior then the ps5?
The Pro specs are pretty disappointing, at this point based on what I've heard thus far it is a likely to result in a marginal at best improvement to the overall gaming experience and thats only if you go looking for those improvements. My interest in the Pro dropped to near nil after the specs analysis. The PS4 Pro added HDR and upped resolution to 4K native or otherwise which at that time justified the upgrade. I don't see that same realization of benefit with the PS5 Pro.
HDR was added to base PS4 as well. And depending on the game you might get some upscaled 4k visuals or you might get an fps boost.
Dark Souls 3 for example just raised thr frame rate cap to 60 and let the system run free for the PS4 Pro.
The PS5 Pro would need double performance or more, best bet for the jump in performance is an equivalent as good as a 7700XT or 7800XT with FSR3 then youre running everything at 60fps. Jumping to 4K native is a massive drain on the gpu but if using FSR you would upscale to 4K and probably hit 60 on some games, it’s so smooth you really wouldn’t know it’s not 4K native
@@gothpunkboy89 whatever it was with the PS4 and PD4 Pro, I'm not impressed with what I've heard regarding the PS5 Pro and nit going to buy it.
Dude, just beef up the GPU and CPU by 20 %.
This is basically just a bare minimum upgrade with upscaling tech.
They did way better.
2 things.. Sony waits until I buy a PS5 to release their games on PC. Then they time their "Pro" release for 6 months later.
I think the PS5 pro is gonna be the best 1080p machine with over +120FPS, the 4k improvement will be mediocre and I"m not even gonna talk about 8k.
Probably you are on PC? Even the base PS5 has many native 4k 60 FPS titles. And also 1080p 120Hz.
@@GokuTributeZ Yeah, I know...I'm talking about over 120fps, more like 260fps at 1080p (COD).
The PS5 Pro is said to be as powerful as a 7700 XT and the games are getting more demanding every year too, At that time even a 4080 would barely be enough for 4K 60. And don't expect the performance of a 5080 in a $500 console
These mid gen refreshes have always been underwhelming. They should release the 6 already. This gen is almost done
This generation u got 13 games. Next generation will be 5. Enjoy lol.
The one x was far from underwhelming
You got people complaining that ps5 life is to short and people who want it to be short 😅😅
Asking a pc guy about what he thinks about any modern console is like asking a homophobic friend for advice about your new pink shirt.
Why even bother.
The guy cant see beyond his own ego.
Damn the comment section... You could sell some people here land on the moon.
Second
*last
Wait on the PS6, folks.
Have a nice half a decade wait at least.
The PS4 is getting new games till these days... 10+ years support. The PS5 is way stronger. So it should easily handle new games maybe even longer.@@michaelmonstar4276
The PS6 is said to release in 2028 and the games are getting more demanding every year too, At that time even a 4080 would barely be enough for 4K 60. And don't expect the performance of a 5080 in a $500 console
@michaelmonstar4276 Then we wait. Why would anyone want to feed Sony more money for a unit that is slightly improved when the games we have are fine with either/or.. Now, if there were to be the same type of leap that the PS4 vs. PS4 Pro has, then yes.
Pro scam
According to my calculations ps5 pro will run gta 6 easily on 4k 60fps
Yeano.
The PS5 Pro is said to be as powerful as a 7700 XT and the games are getting more demanding every year too, At that time even a 4080 would barely be enough for 4K 60. And don't expect the performance of a 5080 in a $500 console
@@randyrrs7028 games have always been getting more demanding. Devlopers create games for consoles in mind too. A lot of people have consoles too. They wont just create a game that wont run on those consoles.
Majority of PC gamers still play on 1080p in 2024 per steam, however all of them bad mouth new consoles like they own the rtx 4090.😂😂
Majority of console gamers still game with controllers 😂
@@fcukugimmeausernameWell duh. Of course they do.
Uh, yeah. I can relax in a recliner. I also get feedback during my gameplay. Sure i don't have 100 keys, but I am also not trying to typea thesis. @fcukugimmeausername
@@getyaphinsupcontrollers 😂 I'm dying here 😅
True. I own a 3070Ti yet I still game at 1080p for that sweet 144 fps.
We want 60fps. 1440p is fine. 60 frames a must. Performance quality is the necessity.
1440p isn't fine. 1620p should be a norm.
If the game can run at 1080p on ps 5 at 60 fps, it will be 4k at 60 on the ps5 pro with more raytracing on top. All thanks to 2-4 x rt and 45% more gpu horses power, but most importantly, the pssr that can upscale from 1080p to 4k far better than fsr.
@@24-gt5kpyou haven't even seen it in action lmao
@@arsoul3591 the specs speak for it itself
@@24-gt5kp the specs don't speak for how good or bad PSSR is and you're jumping to praise it already lol
10:23 What kind of facial expression is that Alex? lmao
Let us wait and see what the performance will be when it releases and they compare some pro optimized games.
Sony blowing smoke up our ass!
I really hope the upscaling is good because otherwise they really should have gone down to the 4nm or 5nm node and made something more efficient. But I guess they also figured anything stronger than 7800 XT-level performance would get bottlenecked in too many scenarios by the Zen 2 CPU.
They should just go to the 1nm node straight away and implement two CPUs and GPUs, double the memory and include a 4TB PCIe Gen5 SSD. - It's fn obvious!
@@michaelmonstar4276 I just feel it was a bit dumb to stay at 6nm which isn't much better than the 7nm the PS5 launched with back in 2020. PS4 Slim and Pro went from 28nm to 16nm
The PS5 Pro would need double performance or more, best bet for the jump in performance is an equivalent as good as a 7700XT or 7800XT with FSR3 then youre running everything at 60fps. Jumping to 4K native is a massive drain on the gpu but if using FSR you would upscale to 4K and probably hit 60 on some games, it’s so smooth you really wouldn’t know it’s not 4K native
@@michaelmonstar4276 then it would be out of reach for most on the cost front. Smaller nodes processes won't happen until the next generational leap.
@@Nintenboy01doubt it, in no way developers and studios will mak e games just for ps5pro, majority of the markets are still within ps5 era hardwares, this is mostly going to be a fedality upgrade for exclusive games on performance mode 😅
Asking the wrong question. The real question is where are the games that will use all that potential
Listen to Theselius clowns WHO Said series x 2 lite tflopa Will pit ps5 Down lol not ps5 PRO got 3 timmes the tflops and they not amazed
Most games aren't CPU bottle-necked on PS5, so GPU and upscaling should be looked at as huge wins for the Pro.
The PS5 Pro would need double performance or more, best bet for the jump in performance is an equivalent as good as a 7700XT or 7800XT with FSR3 then youre running everything at 60fps. Jumping to 4K native is a massive drain on the gpu but if using FSR you would upscale to 4K and probably hit 60 on some games, it’s so smooth you really wouldn’t know it’s not 4K native
It's a pro, not a ps6. Don't expect much. It ain't meant to replace the ps5 but only meant for buyers who are looking for specific spec upgrades. 45% improvement is good enough imo, just as the ps4 pro was a 50% improvement. I don't get why people complain. Seems like the pc spoiled kids. Consoles are here for a cheap alternative and they expect so much smh.
The PS5 Pro is said to be as powerful as the 7700 XT and the games are getting more demanding every year too, At that time even a 4080 would barely be enough for 4K 60. And don't expect the performance of a 5080 in a $500 console
@@randyrrs7028 The whole point of the Pro is that they don't want to do native 4K anymore. The Pro's trump card is the PSSR upscaling, not raw power.
@@RandomGamingMoments925 yes but even with upscaling it might not be enough to hit 4k 60fps on UE5 games
I've never played a ps5 game on "graphics" mode. Only "performance" mode. I can't tell as much difference in graphics than I do in frame rate. If the ps5 pro can combine the two and hit 60fps on the "graphics" mode then it may be worth the upgrade. I can't even take advantage of the 120fps bc I play on my projector which maxes out at 60hz.
Based on what presented, they can't do that. They would have to make new mode for that of course and that needs effort. Not just unlocking 60fps mode.
U play on a projector 😂 i remember those days when i did the same never looked back once i got a lg cx oled 4k 120hz
this is all i want also. Just give us the same graphical modes running in 60fps and id say its a success
If the game has a 40fps unlocked vrr mode, it will hit 60 on the Pro based on the specs
@@Real.384 With barely anything to saturate those 120 frames... Unless you play fkn Ori all the time.
I’m not trying to rain on the ps5 pro parade but I genuinely have little interest in it. I just want new PS5 games.
Bataglia is a 🤡 who thinks a console to actually good it needs to have 2000$ pc specs 😂😂😂😂
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PS5 pro has average mid range GPU. By the standards of 2025 or 2026 this GPU will drop to most basic entry level GPU like RTX 5060 or RX8600XT So I dont understand why people are even hyped about it
Wouldn’t a 45% increase in performance just be 5% less than the PS4 Pro was to the PS4? Meaning the jump will still be worth it?
The PS4 to PS4 Pro saw a 30% increase in CPU speed and around an estimated 130% increase in GPU performance while in games. The PS4 Pro basically allowed either double the frame rates or increased fidelity and/or resolution, over the base PS4.
Pretty much, the PS5 to PS5 Pro only looks like a minor upgrade, in comparison to it. In a nutshell it's only around a third the amount gain in both CPU and GPU performance, compared to what we saw between the PS4 and PS4 Pro.
The only noteworthy gains of the PS5 Pro is the increase to RT performance (PS5 is gravely lacking, BTW) and the additional AI chipset that allows things like AI upscaling (PSSR). Although the later will likely be somewhat covered by FSR on the base PS5.
As for being worth it? That entirely depends on your viewpoint and how willing you are to delve into your pocket!!
@@fafski1199 I see, thanks!
Pro was 120% faster. This is 45%. The game changer here is PSSR which'll seriously help save gpu resources for better graphics while RT also gets a boost.
You Can See Why People Switch To PC! Ps4 Pro / Ps5 = 4K 60Fps! Yeah Really? No Buy The PS5 Pro It Promises 4K @ 60 Fps.........
7:00 no it is not right around the SX. The SX has 52 CUs running VERY slow. Yall need to stop doing that fake shit.
This console is going to be so large, it's going to be pretty funny. The memes will flow freely.
I'll clean up my PS5 reset it then sell it for 450 with two controllers. I'll put that towards my PS5 Pro. Simple.
New PS5 Slim with COD Bundle and PS5 Slim Spiderman Bundle is $450 each but good luck selling your PS5 with 2 Controllers
@@redscorpion9325 you'd be surprised. I sold my PS4 pro with two controllers and one game for 400 when I got my PS5.
give me a 1k console that gives me 4k 120fps mwahahahahahahah
I rocked a Vanilla PS4 from launch date till the end. It did fine and enjoyee every single game in it. I dont find a reason to switch to PS5 Pro from Vanilla PS5 too when it is still going to play the same games. Maybe at 30fps and little bit less details but i have no time to care for that extra grass with multiple enemies on screen hell bent on taking my life.