Under $1000 for THIS E-Kit?! | Simmons Titan 70 Review & Demo
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Answers to common questions:
- The Titan 70 has MIDI capabilities, and it can be used as a controller. I don't personally use MIDI, so it was not something I tested or demoed.
- You can put the snare drum on a stand of its own.
- Any e-kit with a wide enough kick pad can accommodate a double bass pedal, including this one.
- The original Simmons brand closed their doors in 1999, but was revived by Guitar Center in 2006. You can learn more about their history here simmonsdrums.net/history/
OMG finally an e-kit I can afford that doesn´t sound or look like a toy, definetly buying it. Thanks!
This might just be the e-kit I've been waiting for. Great review, as always.
Just to clarify for those talking about the brand’s continuity, the Simmons of today has no relation to the principals who founded the hexagonal pads and groundbreaking modules of the 80s and 90s. Guitar Center bought and revived the name about a decade ago.
Yes… same people .. kind of.. Guitar Centers, Musicians Friend bought out Simmons for lack of a better business word to form this drum e kit offering.
Actually Dave Simmons has been back helping in development since 2017. Hence the hex pads on the sd2000. The past two lines of kits they’ve come out with have been way better than their older offerings when he wasn’t with Simmons. Really hopefully for the future of this company, though I don’t love guitar center…
This is the FIRST E-kit that I have given any kind of attention to. This review and others have shown so many incredibly useful tools for practice, rehearsals, writing parts. So so useful. Well done!
I tried this kit today at the local Guitar Center and I was impressed with how it sounded and felt. Especially for the price!
I am not a big fan of the cymbal sounds (imo the most difficult thing to get right in a edrum module), but I have to say for under 1k, especially the snare and kick sounds are quite nice. a few of those snares sound better than the ones on a roland td 30 I played the last time :D
Not sure why I'm watching this video as I already own 2 e-kits, but I have to say this was one of the best reviews of any product I've ever seen. The production, camera angles, narration, etc. is extremely high quality.
Appreciate that my friend!
Same here. I just watched this review trying to keep up with the new gear. I was in fact very informative and the pace was really easy to follow, so congratulations to Adam. About the kit itself, it looks like a good deal, especially considering the number of pads; some snare sounds are nice too! And I really like those blue pads :) The bluetooth audio connectivity should be a must for any e-kit these days. I know I miss it in my current kit. Anyway, thanks for the review. Cheers
Excellent review. It helped me decide between this and three others. Thank you! I’m looking forward to playing this soon.
Looks great! Video and the kit! Triple zone ride is a game changer
The idea of the rack is genius. No other can be fold like this
Just bought one, thank you so much for the in depth review Adam, just got a new subscriber :)
I'm really amazed with the snare sounds. I wouldnt ruling out using them for recording and/or live.
That smile towards the end says it all..."Oh this is fun!"
Great review - really, very nice video. Answered all my questions about this kit.
Oooh, nice to see Simmons still at it. I had some octagon pads back in the day! I have trouble finding electronic pads and cymbals that stand up to my heavy metal hands, but they look like they have that sturdy Roland design to them, so maybe I'll see how a couple of these hold up.
That techno groove was nasty! Great vid!
Hi from lake Mary! I was only mildly impressed with the kit (reminded me of the similarly impressive bang for your buck alesis options) until the end with the app and the connectivity! That’s exactly how I want to use an e kit! Great review as always.
I love this video!! Great sounds and teaching.....
What a great review
YOU MAKE ME LAUGH AND SMILE-THATS GOOD !!!!
Anyone know if the kick pad could accommodate a double kick? Or how well it accommodates a double kick?
Thank you nice review just wondering if hihat cuts out they had issues and hopefully fix that and kit does sounds great
ruger and winchester... i see you are a man of taste as well. my first video in this channel and i am quite impressed.
I would definitely be interested in purchasing one of these kits in the future when my budget allows it.
Super tasty demo! You're a great drummer!
Can this kit be hook up to turn the bass drum into a double kick / double bass drum..??
Thanks Adam,just starting out,was looking at the 1250,but this looks much better for me, going to pull the trigger,👍😎
Thank you for your review! Just picked this up and will be my first set. Question on the cymbals - how loose or tight did you make those? I noticed the "nut" doesn't catch a lot of thread and so are the soft spacers designed to keep you from doing so?
Hello Adam! I’ve been following your channel since I was in highschool for several years now and used to have a Tama drum set. I’ve then sold it to a church and now want to get something smaller for an apartment. I mostly play for hobby and also have been playing for 10 plus years. Is this a E kit you would recommend or should I drop a little more money? Greetings from Houston
Thank you for the video. It's a great review; I just bought mine. Would you happen to have any suggestions about the adjustment of the Hi-hat reaction and response?
Great review I may have missed all of these questions but if you don’t mind?
Can you custom eq the cymbals?
Can you control the volume of each drum and cymbal?
Lastly can you add another cymbal?
Arriving tomorrow! What are the dimensions of the rack? Meaning footprint on floor. Thanks!
Would the 70 be easier to play than the 1250,like the bigger Tom's on the 12,thanks, good vid👍
Thanks for the video! Helped a student buy the Titan 50. I was really shocked how good it sounded. I’m looking into buying a higher end Simmons even though I already have a low volume acoustic drum set in my apartment. 😅
What type of low volume acoustic kit do you have ? Model, sizes, etc
I can say for sure I thought my Titan 50 sounded better than the SD1250 I just took back for a refund. But that’s just my opinion.. that’s the reason I bought the Titan 70.. it’s basically the same with a better module, more preset kits and a great OS app set up especially at this price point.
Thanks for posting this great review. Any idea if the Titan 70 would work with a Yamaha DTX502 brain?
Hello! Loving your content! I ended up with a black friday sale Titan 70 - and wondered if you had any issues that I am having - particularly when trying to utilize the expansion ports? Or when trying to integrate a Lemon 3 zone ride (that you may already know how to do)? First - the manual I downloaded said exp1 and exp2 ports were assignable as "dual zone" inputs, for dual zone pads and for splitting to two single zone pads from one jack - or - it said you could assign the exp ports to be a "cymbal / crash" (allowing cymbal chokes to be interpreted). However, when trying the expansion ports, with simmons or other brands, they could not be set to understand/use chokes. Do you still have your Titan 70, to see if you have this issue? Or if you can figure out using the Lemon ride instead of the stock one, via the stock 3 zone with choke ride cable snake, or via one or two of the exp ports? And a bit deeper - if you succeeded with the lemon, but needed both exp ports to utilize it's 3 zones and choke, what are the capabilities of the simmons ride cymbal jack from the module snake? Are there any other e cymbal types/brands that you know of, that can fully utilize its 3 way plus choke - or maybe can it be split to two crashes with choke (is this a potential cable that can support two crashes somehow, where one's choke sensor could choke either crash, yet both crashes have seperate assignable cymbal sounds? - I believe I saw this is one of your videos for a different module, a happy accident trying cable splits and extra cymbals, apologies if that was someone else)?
Just bought one thanks!
I was just in the market for electric drums and was considering this set but I ended up going for the Alesis surge mesh kit special edition cause it came with a mesh kick drum instead of just a pad. It was also like 300$ cheaper, considering I’m just starting I didn’t wanna spend too much for extra cymbals and toms I wouldn’t even use for at least a couple months lol. The best thing I’ve bought tho is a practice pad it’s been helping me keep a consistent rhythm. I use it whenever I’m watching tv and just practice rudiments.
just bought will let ya know! Thanks!
Well, to be fair, Simmons is one of the original e-kit manufacturers. So it should come to no surprise that it would sound and feel good. I'm sure the plastic hardware bits can be replaced with metal if one would want to gig with it.
I just wonder if the module will handle any expansions should one want more pieces.
Can I load purchased drum samples to this kit/module? Can I customize kit, for example on the Brooklyn, maybe switch out crash 2 for a different cymbal sound? Thanks!
does this e kit includes those famous 80s simmons drum sounds?
First let me say you made an excellent video. I purchased a SD 1200 2 years ago. I bought the then expansion kit. Now this has more metal and less plastic. The kit didn’t include a kick pedal for the kick drum but other than that everything was included ( yes even the drum sticks lol) I simply haven’t had the time to fool around with it much to be honest but for the money I don’t think it could be beaten. Now mine has a separate stand for the snare. I would say just by your review this module appears to be better. So here’s a question. Do you think a new module could be ordered and do a plug and play? I think the advances on it would be money well spent. Thx for a great video!
Sounds good for an ekit at this price, especially the snare!
Does this have any midi connectivity?
Just got mine and at the price point 5 stars!
Would you say these heads are better or worse than mesh heads?
Great video thank you.
Can you get the Titan module separately and use and use it for an SD 600?
Can a snare stand be used, instead of the mounting arm hardware? I play with an Offset double pedal...
Hi! Does the hi hat controller gives the half open sounds or is it just open and close? Thanks
How loud are they to everyone else when you have headphones on? Like if you just heard the person hitting them without the electronic sounds on
They sound pretty damn good only because your playing is so good!
It would be true to agree with this.. but I’ve owned the Titan 50 and I can say this 70 has to be a real smile maker. It is not the kit you buy for life.. Roland would be.. but a kit to get it on with in the evening when you don’t want to bother anybody… (?) this is your kit. Sounds outstanding through good headphones and really great against the music with Bluetooth audio.. yes this guy makes em sound great but they can’t sound great if they sound bad.. these Simmons Titans sound great and feel pretty good too.
Great hall is amazing! and Americana!
Not surprising considering they were the first ever to make e-drums. Slow and steady development wins the race! With silent stages and in-ears becoming the norm, I could see me and many other working drummers getting this for some of our gigs even. It sounds good, look good, and can always trigger any MIDI samples we could ever want through a MIDI interface and a laptop! You can always upgrade the cymbals and mounting hardware anyway. Hard to beat the value for a cool set of pads as well!
As others have noted, it's not the same company. Simmons went out of business and sold the brand name to GC. There's zero connection between this kit and the classic Simmons kits
I wonder if this offers the classic sounds of the 1980s Simmons SDS 5 electronic drum kit.
Is this kit better than a Roland TD-17KVX2?
How does this compare to the 1250?
Great review. Could you please revidw the Fesley FED 1200aw if you bave a chance?
The SD1250 is on sale for the same price as the 70. Which one would you recommend?
I just bought this on sale for $680. I really don’t think you can do better at that price. I will be using Death and Darkness SDX so the stock sounds weren’t a deciding factor. How are you feeling about it 2 months later?
Great review:
"for the money" this kit looks pretty good. The snare and tom sounds are pretty good but the cymbal samples are weak. I hope the amount of reverb on samples is adjustable (i would assume) as most of the samples were a bit to airy imo.
any ideas from anyone when and where it will be available in the uk ? thanks.
Good timing! Trying to find an E set since I can't play my acoustic set at my new place. 😢
Great timing, I've been considering upgrading ekits just now. I was about to go for the Roland TD07KV, which is a bit higher priced than this. Would this drumkit still be worth getting over it? It has at least one extra tom and cymbal, and three zones on the ride that the Roland doesn't have.
I already have a double pedal if thay changes anything.
Thanks!
That’s a tough ask because if you just focused on the extra Tom and the three zone ride it gives you more for less the price. I have played both and Roland has better feeling mesh heads and they also have a better module so the sounds are miles ahead
@@JojoRichards2005 thanks for the input!!
My crash cymbals are not choking is it hidden somewhere in the manual how to make this happen? I've looked in the manual and nothing. Thanks!
Love metalstar!
Hey Adam- Great video explaining everything in depth! Does this kit have any midi capabilities? So if you wanted to use ezdrummer from Toontrack and use those sounds rather than the onboard sounds is this possible? The kit has some great sounds but if I could midi and play the toontrack drums from hell pack that would make this kit a for sure purchase!
I don’t personally use MIDI much in my studio, but the Simmons website tells me it functions as a MIDI controller via USB. I can’t see why it wouldn’t be compatible with any source you want to use for sounds!
@@AdamTuminaro Thanks Adam! I’m absolutely loving your app, I’ve been a drummer for 40 years and I’m learning so much from you, things I was never taught as a kid all coming to life now!
@@robbiedestocki7749 so glad to hear that my friend! The kind words are much appreciated. Linking the OD app to the unit was definitely my favorite feature! Lol, so damn convenient. 🤘🏼
@@robbiedestocki7749it does USB Audio over USB midi simultaneously. Record Audio and send full midi at the same time
I bought an acoustic kit several months ago. I really underestimated how loud an acoustic kit is so I ended up grabbing a used Roland td-17kvx2. I do most of my practice on the ekit but occasionally jump on the acoustic so I don't forget how that feels. I'm glad I have an acoustic kit but if I was to it over I would've bought the ekit first and maybe an acoustic kit years down the road. My only complaint about the td17 is (imo) the stock kits sound fake.
I just bought this kit....and I'm loving it!
Do you mind if I ask how tall you are? I'm 6'3 and it seems that most kits would be too short for me. How is the height?
@@kingfrank01I'm 6'5" and I don't have any issues playing on the kit. I like it a lot, especially for under $1,000.
Is the App compatible with Android? I didn't jump on the Titan 50 because it was only iOS. Is this different? If so, this is the kit I'd get. Thanks to anyone who can answer.
Does the tightening /loosening on the cymbals effect the sound/feel like an acoustic kit?
Nope. Only how hard and where you hit it will affect it.
Is there a double bass feature on this?
I recently got to test out this kit at a local Guitar Center and I love it. From what I was able to gather, the interface should not be that hard for blind people like myself to work with, considdering that the screens are text only and there are proper push buttons instead of touch controls. Maybe the app could work as well but I'm willing to bet that it isn't very well built to work with Voiceover on iOS.
I’m certain the interface was not made with “blind people” in mind; nor would any product be, unless for that specific purpose. Right? Kind of like complaining that it wasn’t made for people without arms.
That is true. Accessibility for the blind is kind of like a scale of sorts when it comes to software and hardware. Some things such as mixing boards should natively be accessible because of the nature of the sliders, nobs, etc, but once touch controls are put in the equation, what ever the device is most likely won't work unless features are added. Some apps have the ground work to be screen reader accessible, with properly made system level controls that may or may not have good labels, but some are made in such ways that a screen reader can't read anything in the app at all. Yamaha apps have tended to be mustly usable over the years even if not intentionally. The touch and graphics implementations are what keep me away from the high end keyboards and drum systems.
Anyone have an issue with the snare not triggering? Just straight shots with no quick rolls. The LED will turn pink and hen a couple hits later will be red and nothing will trigger. Super frustrating!
I'm an intermediate drummer. I want an e-kit for the under $1000 price range. I've been doing some research and I've narrowed my choices down to The Simmons Titan 70, The Alesis Command Mesh SE Kit (new model) or the Roland V-Drums TD-07DMK kit. I'm having a hard time making a decision. Are Roland's a bit higher quality or are all three options about the same in quality? Any recommendations or guidance? Also, can you recommend a good Electronic Drum Amplifier for home use? Thanks for your very helpful video.
I think you would be happiest with Simmons Titan 70. But honestly buying used Roland or Yamaha drums is a better move for $800 range. Look out for Roland td17kvx or td17KV used would be way better than any of those options
Can you load your own drum samples? That's what I wanna know.
Great review, nice kit for the price. Just concerned about that snare bouncing around quite a bit when hit.
Fair enough! The snare sits on its own supporting arm, but I had it slid to the very end of that arm. Probably a bit more stable if you keep a more compact setup.
Also, you could totally put it on a snare stand if you wanted to.
Does it have a feature that trains you to keep time…like gives you a grade on your timing. I know Roland brands have them in some of their models
Yes
Can the Toms get high enough for taller players? One of the issues with the cheaper racks is the toms cannot get high enough for player like me who have a long torso
Depends on a dozen factors that strangers on the internet can’t answer for you, as nearly all would be personally preference. You’ll have to play the kit in person. If it’s the kind of thing you’re picky about in all kits, you should measure your ideal Tom height on your own kit, and compare against the manufacturer’s specs. You’ll never have to guess what works and what doesn’t.
The app that connects via Bluetooth.
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can anyone provide some input on the difference in quality between roland and simmons? i purchased the roland TD1 DMK a few months ago and have really enjoyed it, but it lacks some features that i would like to have and after seeing all those features in this kit comes with close to the same price i'm thinking of switching.
Unfortunately should of gone with the td07 man as the td1 is very bare bones and basic. I don't know much about Simmons but I think you are still better off sticking with roland as they are easy to customise and add to. If u can trade your td1 module for a td07 or even better a td17 module I reckon it's the go 👍🏻
@@stevec7435 I would have liked to get a higher end model, but unfortunately, the only reason i was able to get the td1 was because of a holiday sale at guitar center. i'll look into getting a better module and i would like to change the bass pad to a better one also.
@@chewfoo that's definitely the time to buy a kit👍🏻. A nice kd9 or second hand kd10 would be a good upgrade, after that I would look into a 2nd hand module then maybe a pdx12 snare and your laughing 👌🏼
Suena muy bien para un grupo latino cumbias románticas baladas
Hey by the way at 11:59 sounds to me like a Level 42 style song. 😎 Are you familiar with them and their music? Especially their Iive performances old and new?
I am not. That’s a drumless track I wrote about 10 years ago using Apple Loops. Lol.
Would the kick pad fit a double pedal?
It absolutely does. The kickpad is GIGANTIC.
Does this kit come with the sounds of those 80's Simmons kits with the hex pads?
Yes. I read it does.
having plastic hardware in the exact points that will be taking the most stress from hitting is a bit of a red flag, ive had cheap metal hardware frequently fail in those locations (typically cast aluminum). the cymbal angle adjustment seems like a cross threading nightmare and that it would wear very quickly from playing and adjusting, and where the metal posts connect into the plastic for the tom mounts could also be a bad wear point. especially if the metal is textured
If I'm looking for a good quality e-kit under $1000 - is there a kit you would recommend for quality and durability? I'm looking at the Roland TD-07DMK or the Alesis Command Mesh SE kit (in addition to this Simmons Titan 70)?
This kit isn't for gigging and it's not for heavy hitters. That's true for pretty much any kit at this price point. Your complaints are out of place here. It's like clicking on a video for a golf cart and complaining that it wouldn't hold up on a test track
Maybe but I v leaved to hit a lot less with force not needed , this won't be a problem if you don't murder the kit 😂
@@christheghostwriter no matter how hard or light you play, there is constant vibration that will wear into the plastic over time. This will be a problem in the long term if you are regularly playing, even if you have a relatively light touch
It’s the cymbals for me
Oh and a question: are the drums themselves all mounted with plastic hardware? Guess you can't hit them too hard if so. How durable is this kit really? I think that is why the cost is low on this. But still sounds decent anyway.
Did you watch the video? Every question you’ve asked has already been answered.
This is probably the best presentation of this kit available anywhere on You Tube. I just sold my Titan 50 last month after 11 months..Bought a brand new Simmons sD1250. Had it two weeks I thought it played very well, the hardware was far superior, the size of the skins at 12” snare and all 10” Tom’s was really nice and the cymbals were larger and felt better. The module was really nice w color led screen…. But… it wasn’t near as fun to play as the 50 nor did it have rimshot detection on the snare.. a huge buzz kill. So I just got refunded from GC and getting ready to order the 70.. it’s not what I really want but I can’t afford that so I know what this 70 kit will get me… sound satisfaction. I’d rather have smaller targets that sound good versus large targets that don’t sound near as good IMO.. the 70 will satisfy my need to play loud while the Mrs and dig are sleeping upstairs.. the 50 was great with Bluetooth and a pair of headphones.. it rocks and feels pretty damn good for a small target budget kit.. my 70 should be here this week.
Just got mine and at the price point 5 stars!
@@jimilove7773 I ended up getting it for $679.00 from Musicians Friend.. making it a real no brainer. I added a Tama iron cobra 600 single kick and a decent 10” floor snare stand. Those two add ons should make this a solid kit. Any time under a $1000 you can’t expect anywhere near Roland quality, I played a set of $3400 Roland’s and yes.. they are really nice.. but this is a fraction of that cost and I’m not leaving the basement, my band days are behind me and this purchase is just for me.. they should be here in the next two days.. looking forward
Hey! Thanks for the input, I had a sd1200 and just really thought the sounds were bad in it, kind of was deterring me from the Titan 70 but since you say that 70 is better than the 1250 makes me feel a lot better with going for it. I'm glad I wasn't the only one thinking the 1250 sounded bad, I don't care if it has a color screen if the drums sound like poo
And btw do you like the 70 are they everything you thought they would be?
I have the Simmons 600 which I believe is their latest before this model it looks similar. It has some great functionality and some really good tones, but at the same time is missing some things and more drum variety. It’s a fun kit to play. The stock kick pedal is garbage, but what drummer doesn’t have a few sitting around. And if ur a new player, the stock kick is fine. It just doesn’t have that special something the the Roland kit of similar value has.
You didn't try the OG Simmons sounds??? It should have them.
Can it get India ?
How tall are you?
Sounds great, but does it work with double pedal?
I’ve never heard of any e-kit that could not work with a double pedal. Lol.
I have an sd600 that kind of works with a double pedal, but isn't very reliable. Luckily, I have an AE conversion kick drum I can use with it.
Idk why but the toms always sound funny to me. But that's all samples so for the price I'm sure a lot can be dine with this kit
Sounds great, those rims look rather high though, shades of the Alesis nitro mesh........
Did GC/Simmons send, this to you 1-1 1/2 months ago? As a reviewer/influencer, is GC or Simmons paying you for your review? Just in the context of openess.
I liked your review though.
Kind of. I was contacted by a Marketing Firm that Simmons hired. I have no relationship with anyone at Simmons or GC.
I charged my standard fee for video production and made the video as I would for anyone else.
At no point in time did they give me instructions; just a PDF with basic talking points. Edits / changes to the video were never offered or requested.
The world of paid reviews is less dark than many viewers imagine it to be. Companies that demand edits, specific phrases, or false positive reviews are rarely entertained by creators. Lying to your audience for money is an insanely stupid thing to do; so stupid that I’ve yet to encounter a company who implied I should do that.
Worst case scenario, you send the product back to the company, and tell them you don’t find it worthy of review. I’ve mailed 2 products back to companies for this reason; the product sucked, and a review would literally just be me bashing the product. I get no money, and no product when this happens, but it’s obviously preferable to lying. Lol.
@AdamTuminaro thank you for responding and being candid. Forgive me if I sounded harsh. I intend no disrespect. I just happened to see the GC vid and another reviewer drop vids within a short time of each other.
I’m new to E-kits but looking to purchase one to teach my daughter and so I have something to play on as well until I get more space for an acoustic set.
This kit looks great, love your review, I’ve been researching E-kits for awhile now. Only question I have with this kit is it double bass pedal compatible?