"Hotarubi decided to create a run that was so amazing, everyone thought it was fake, AND save the animals just to annoy everyone" that's my kind of trolling right there
Oh he will. Remember, the title is progression of the world record. He had revisited several that have had significant progress. It's about time. Though I've noticed usually it's discovery of a new glitch or tactic that prompts several people having a back and forth with the record for a bit before it stabilizes, which makes sense. Shaving a little time while impressive, isn't earth shattering progress. But finding a new move that allows others access to the top level, getting others in the competition, now that's progress.
Would love to see him revisit this one. As great as this video is, it's clear that not only has the speed run category advanced since this video, but Salt's also improved his videos.
Imagine flexing so hard on a community you A) Break their record so hard they can't believe it could possibly be real. B) Do it while wasting time getting a 'different ending.' C) Break it so god dang hard they start doing segmented runs just to prove that they could theoretically beat you. D) Break THAT record because F you. E) Make them essentially start racing for second because you are a god and they are mere mortals. F) Change the scoring system by beating them so hard. G) And then proceed to move on and wreck people in other games. Talk about beaten at your own game. Dear god that is legendary levels of flexing. Aaron would have to flex himself out of the freaking galaxy to match that.
As someone who was part of the community at the time... it was AMAZING. Hotarubi was like a god to us when he dropped that run... it felt like Christmas morning.
It can be argued that Hotarubi is the greatest speedrunner of all-time, not just for Super Metroid but for the wider speedrunning community in general. This guy held records that stood unmatched for years in games from the Mega Man and Mario franchises in addition to his legendary sub-50 minute time in Super Metroid. He was so far ahead of his time, god bless him. Also, you're right, his flex on the Super Metroid speedrunning community was pure gold.
It's kinda cool, they are competing against each other in the sense that they want to get the WR, but they are working together in the sense that they want to see the game reach its maximum limit. TASers also play a huge role in finding new things, and everyone that are into running one specific game, work together to push the game to its limit. Then it's just up to whoever to nail the record. They are really hype for eachother when records are beaten.
Having been in the Super Metroid community since May of 2011, I can't begin to tell you how satisfying this video was, and I can't thank you enough for doing the research and presenting it all so well. The majority of these runners are people I consider good friends, so it's amazing to see it all put together and for their story and the story of the Super Metroid community to be shared. Thank you, and keep making great videos and providing a positive source of content for the speedrunning community as a whole.
@@Kyle49840 He wasn't; that's not what the term means. When people say "behemothed" they mean the new record came seemingly out of nowhere, as it happened when Behe recorded both his 45:22 and 43:48 without revealing his progress that lead up to these times. But in this case both Zoast and Behemoth returned to grinding the any% in late 2017 on stream and very gradually-a few seconds at a time, no double-digit improvements anymore-brought the time down in a constant back-and-forth. This time none of the progress came out of nowhere: it was all publicly built up, followed, and greatly anticipated.
My rare-to-give sincere feedback: Please continue this series. The effort is noticed and so appreciated. I've always enjoyed speedruns in any capacity, but your way of breaking down the different chronicles of glitches and milestones is a complete treat. Usually this is stuff where we can only know half the story through stumbling upon the different runs. Your thorough coverage off all the specific interesting in-between stuff that would literally be impossible for myself to put aside the energy and time to discover is professional and concise, yet detailed and explained well enough to really the build a great story behind the runs. Thanks for the videos so far... Looking forward to what's to come!
It's great to see how much Summoning Salt has improved over the years. Super Metroid is one of my favorite games and I would love to see a remake/follow-up to this video, because a game such as this deserves the insane production value of modern Summoning Salt
I LOVE THE HEADPHONE WARNING! Why don't more people do this? I'm fine with that level of noise/distortion, with a heads up about 2.5-4 seconds beforehand. That's a classy move from a classy channel.
Yo, HOTARUBI is back! He is once again running super Metroid. Good times. His channel is called htrb Edit: He renamed it back to Hotarubi. Seems hes getting more serious again. Hes also Posting very active lately!
At the time they really couldnt. It took 6 years and the discovery of several new tricks and strategies to beat his run. The run that eventually beat his was nowhere near the same level of execution, it just had improved strats.
What's funny is, "KPDR" is the intended route. At least, it seems like it with the way you get power-ups. It's crazy that it took so long for people to look at doing the bosses out of order, especially since they are using tricks that allow them to skip some power-ups anyway.
I dunno, there are a TON of categories for this game, with Reverse Boss Order being one of the more known (and crazier) ones, so it's really more that people hadn't put enough thought into optimizing every aspect of a full run for speed with virtually every combination of bosses possible. Thought of that way, it's more understandable.
Is not that they didnt think about it, is just that many tricks had to be figured out before the current route became viable. The current Phantoon kill method took a while to be figured out. Without it, going for Phantoon first was a bad idea since the fight would take way too long without a 2 cycle kill method. Also to even consider the current route it was necessary to know all the quick speed boost tricks necessary in lower norfair. Untill behemoth came around and figured out all the necessary details, the route was simply not viable. In short, they did look into it, but there were several technical difficulties to be solved before another route was WR viable.
Well, it makes sense the intended route would be the fastest. The order you get the upgrades hugely impact how fast you can get through an area. Consider this: It took years of research and experimentation with different routes to find a viable one, and even then, it only saved a MAXIMUM of around 100 seconds. I think that’s more surprising than anything.
Would be huge to do an updated version of this, would love to see the current day Summoning Salt WR Progression story telling magic applied to the current day Oats n Goats Super Metroid magic.
JihadNinja yea man, I just commented on how needless to say creative but how his formula works and will continue to work without ever becoming stagnate.
We need a Hotarubi special. You can do a series on especially prolific speedrunners who held MANY records such as him, Billy Mitchell and others. A good off-shoot to the sort of stuff you are already producing. Pls Lord.
Billy is obviously a cheat, but he is an undeniably good player. Todd is just mediocre at best. Billy’s problem is he couldn’t settle with being the 3rd or 4th best at any of his games, he had to be #1
2021 update summoning salt? The WR categories have really narrowed down. And we have some SICK low% runs, impossible hack WRs. Absolutely worthy of your commentary.
What a gold mine concept you got yourself involved with. These are always such a treat to watch. Please keep them up man. And we appreciate the work as usual!
im so glad to finally understand the origin of the "save the animals" meme, as well as the term behemoth'd. i saw both quite often under various speedrun videos but never looked up what it means. glad i stumbled over it on your amazing series. thanks!
@@AwesomeHairo The main thing is it would ruin all the times currently on the leaderboard, it would completely invalidate the english category since japanese would be like 15 minutes shorter, and in general, it would be a big change for where the community is at. Not to mention the fact that half the real time is cutscenes.
@@jijonbreaker There is also not much reason to switch to real time. In SM, the choice of timing has a major effect on the route used, but in Fusion, you have to take practically the same route no matter what. So while in SM, it is totally reasonable for one person to have a much faster in-game time but much slower real time, in Fusion, that's not really a thing.
You can really feel his pain when he accidentally kneels instead of dropping down into her ship! Great video, I love that you capture those critical moments that lead to a new world record, and their efforts to make new strategies. The music choices are on point too. Great work!
I was wondering where it was at today. I know at least 1 new strat was made where u moonwalk or something off platforms cause it makes u fall faster I think? I read about it awhile ago can't remember.
This is my favorite one of your videos, it’s so well done. I’ve watched it more times than I can count. I even watch it to help me go to sleep sometimes
Such an underrated Summoning Salt video. I think this one definitely matches the quality that all of his videos have met. Not to say the 4 or so before didn't meet the same quality. But this one, narratively, just feels so good. Love these videos man
It's worth mentioning that the KPDR boss order used by Smokey and other runners of the time is the same boss order that the game designers intended most players to use. Although Smokey skipped many parts of the intended route ("sequence-breaking") like the miniboss Crocomire, required to get the Grapple Beam, he did not change the boss order because at the time, this was still the fastest route known within the capabilities of the runners. The sequence breaks Smokey used were still very significant though. For instance, the Grapple Beam allows for a relatively quick kill on Draygon, which becomes a difficult fight without it. There are some inaccurate claims in the video. For example, Smokey fought Mother Brain with 5 energy tanks, so none of her attacks could kill him in one hit. Today, top runners fight her with just 3 tanks, the minimum possible, so if they get hit by a single red beam ("ketchup"), they will not have enough energy remaining to survive her "rainbow beam," which is unavoidable. Probably the biggest omission though was Twocat. While Zoast and oatsngoats were grinding the 41, there was fierce competition at the same time from Twocat and Kottpower. It was a four-way race for quite a while before Zoasty and oats really started to pull ahead. Behemoth started to catch up too. The way you describe it makes it sound like oats and zoast were the only two in the running, which is just not the case. And it's still not the case today. Behemoth could easily show up and behemoth oats any day now. And indeed, all of these runners mentioned (along with a few others) have world records in at least one category.
I’m watching all of Summoning’s videos for a second time. They are so well put together and easy to listen to. Well done man, let’s see some more progression vids!
just last week zoast got the WR again. was mentioned in a week in speedrunning recap. forget his time exactly, but he's supposed back on top though it's not listed yet. saw the clip from his live stream on the recap video
Ryan Wellman - yeah, that's the one I was talking bout. hopefully it gets verified soon. Behemoth is my favorite SM runner but zoast is still freaking amazing. insane how low the record has gotten
All of these WR Progressions have been really well done. Subbing for more. Wouldnt mind seeing some other big title games like Zelda LttP or OoT. castlevania 4 had some fun wr swapping in 2015 and recent strats that have come out to push the record further down.
Looking at the LB now, zoast is back in first, nearly all of the top 20 scores in any% were submitted 1-5 years ago. The most recent scores were submitted 1 week, 3 months, and 4 months ago, at #10, #16, and #13, respectively, with #20 being 42:57, an already extremely difficult time to get. It's one thing for the top 5 to stagnate, but for the top 20 to stagnate and given the barrier to entry even in the top 20 means any% is dead until someone strikes gold again. The scores on the 100% cat are all much more recent.
@@faaltoh I have to nitpick your wording. When you say something "aged like milk", you are implying that it is wrong or made a bad prediction. I said "any% is dead _until someone strikes gold again"._ According to you, Zoast got a PB in October and any% has since revived. This does not contradict what I said.
shoutouts to me in the chat at 18:04 !!! (Swaaz) best game ever made !!! garrison got me into speedrunning long live the king that in my opinion made the game more popular into what it is now today considered "mainstream" zoast and behemoth are living legends, ive even skipped meals just to sub to zoast during hard times just for the sheer amount of live entertainment he has given us all oh and cant forget the god of ceres oatsngoats (who has turned PC lately which was unfortunate but he is still awesome) im soo passionate about this that i cant stop without mentioning kott aswell... this comment has turned into a mess now
I would love to see and update on this one day and of course a 100% WR progression and thanks for mentioning me in the video with the routing for the current Any% Route!!! I will say it was mostly Smokey, Reeve and Behemoth. I pretty much just said that going Phantoon First would be the only definite time save for RTA and they took it from there. I appreciate the credit none the less though, Thank You!!!
It’s absolutely insane how far the record has moved since Hotarubi’s seemingly unbeatable time. His once unfathomable pace now ranks 153 officially. Hell, even oatsandgoats has been bumped out of the top 5 since this was posted.
The record changed hands several times, but then something nobody could predict happened: Out of nowhere, a new challenger emerged, securing the record. Then the record changed hands several times, but then something nobody could predict happened: Out of nowhere, a new challenger emerged, securing the record. Then the record changed hands several ti- I feel like there's only ever one twist when it comes to emerging records.
My friend recommended me your youtube channel to watch speedruns because he said that he can tell how much you enjoy talking about it. This is my first time watching one of your videos and I enjoyed it! You're very detailed and precise. Love it, keep it up. :D
After watching several of these vids, I think these are the most well-researched and well put-together video game vids on UA-cam. Awesome job on such a wide variety of games!
Yeah we definitely need a RBO and an update ON any %... I suppose this is why salt is so good at what he does he knows when we need it not when we need it 😂
Damn I annot stop watching these videos, so well made, its such a satisfying emotional progression with each one Ive aatched so far, the formula is just right with an enthusiastic narration. Its channels with creators like these that have me stumped as to why there isnt much exposure as more popular videos with really nothing close to offer. Good work on these brotha.
Watched this years before and rewatching it now, because at the moment there is a Super Metroid Race Tournament and it seems, Oats meets Zoast in the final round!^^
Not without somehow incorporating a lot of TAS strats. I still think 40:2X will happen some day, but it's gonna take amazing RNG. Oats barely made any major mistakes (only two that I noticed, both in the last 20 seconds, and he maybe lost one second to both of them put together) and almost all of his time losses were due to bad drops and other RNG (fast-fast Phantoon would have been nice).
I'm not that invested in speedruns, but you cut it down to the interesting parts and make it entertaining. Well edited. Nice voiceover. Pacing is great. Good choice in music. I really enjoy your content.
learned about this channel and this video series not too long ago and I've been watching every WRP they are incredibly entertaining and so interesting! when i catch up i'm going to be waiting eagerly for the next one
Have you considered doing a series that focuses specifically on the evolution of the techniques and strategies used in the games, whether they were considered TAS-only at some point, how they were discovered and exploited, etc? Great work. Can't wait for more content.
This video deserves a 2023 update. A new technique, "moonfall" was relatively recently discovered and has pushed down the theoretical time by quite a bit. On top of that, Zoast has perfected a level of execution that seems absolutely unreal. The current WR by Zoast is now 40:45 with 27 min in-game time which is absolutely BONKERS. Nobody seems to be willing to even try beating it any more. Also, as another commenter pointed out, it would be interesting to have a look at 100% runs as well. Peace.
Another great video Summoning! Thanks for keeping the history of the hobby alive! Might I suggest a more modern game for the next video? Ive always been interested in how the Mirrors Edge community brought the time down to a 31:42
Hey man, you should consider updating this video. It'd be really cool to see you talk about how these runners have continually pushed the strats in new route from old route, and have really made this run a hair raising effort as it is today. This video here got me into watching speedruns of this game years ago, and since then, the runners have just done absolutely bonkers things. Zoasty is currently on top with a 40:46 time, and Behemoth87 is holding second place with a 40:56. Zoast landed a 40:55, and was grinding to improve his time for months, then earlier this week had two runs back to back a day apart that went to 40:50, then 40:46, and he's decided to temporarily stop the grind. He's actually practicing old route to see what can be pushed there!
Just came back to re-watch this for a 10th time, Zoast took back the WR 10 days ago by 10 seconds. Love every video you have made so far and was here before 10k subs.
Amazing that this has since been brought down by 1:10 to 40:46 as of last week. 40:2X is probably possible with current routing, assuming perfect execution and favorable RNG.
Worked harder on this one than any of the other ones so far. Hope you all enjoy it!
Thank you for making these. Can't get enough of them.
Summoning Salt Thanks! I look forward to watching it all :D
Thank you so much for these ^_^
your stranded of quality is among the top percentile of youtubers
Summoning Salt Nice Job Again Summoning Salt I Have Two Idea Zelda A Link To The Past / Ocarina Of Time I Have A Feeling Zelda Will Be Next
"Hotarubi decided to create a run that was so amazing, everyone thought it was fake, AND save the animals just to annoy everyone" that's my kind of trolling right there
Madfacts people that are just mad lads who play like a machine and flex on everyone are best aesthetic
Please address him by his actual name; "HoTASegmentedrunbi"
@@Psianth when?
James M Kinkopf they capitalized “TAS” in his name. Like “Tool Assisted Speedrun”. Basically calling him a robot god.
Craig has lockjaw pls rt
It'd be awesome to have Summoning Salt revisit this, especially with Oats's new record from yesterday.
The 40 minutes 36 seconds? Yeah that was huge. He lowered it quite a bit.
Oh he will. Remember, the title is progression of the world record. He had revisited several that have had significant progress. It's about time. Though I've noticed usually it's discovery of a new glitch or tactic that prompts several people having a back and forth with the record for a bit before it stabilizes, which makes sense. Shaving a little time while impressive, isn't earth shattering progress. But finding a new move that allows others access to the top level, getting others in the competition, now that's progress.
I know I'm looking forward to it 🤌🏼🤌🏼
Would love to see him revisit this one. As great as this video is, it's clear that not only has the speed run category advanced since this video, but Salt's also improved his videos.
I am sitting here waiting for the video on Dread as well!
Hotorubi saving the animals was the hardest flex ive ever seen in my life
@Dat Boi obesessed
Dat Boi NPC
In one of the Mario Kart Wii videos, a runner set the record using Luigi on Luigi’s bike, even though he is not optimal, just because he liked Luigi
really though
Not a flex at all. He knew he had time and it was timed in whole minutes. Not a big deal at all.
Imagine flexing so hard on a community you
A) Break their record so hard they can't believe it could possibly be real.
B) Do it while wasting time getting a 'different ending.'
C) Break it so god dang hard they start doing segmented runs just to prove that they could theoretically beat you.
D) Break THAT record because F you.
E) Make them essentially start racing for second because you are a god and they are mere mortals.
F) Change the scoring system by beating them so hard.
G) And then proceed to move on and wreck people in other games.
Talk about beaten at your own game. Dear god that is legendary levels of flexing. Aaron would have to flex himself out of the freaking galaxy to match that.
As someone who was part of the community at the time... it was AMAZING. Hotarubi was like a god to us when he dropped that run... it felt like Christmas morning.
It can be argued that Hotarubi is the greatest speedrunner of all-time, not just for Super Metroid but for the wider speedrunning community in general. This guy held records that stood unmatched for years in games from the Mega Man and Mario franchises in addition to his legendary sub-50 minute time in Super Metroid. He was so far ahead of his time, god bless him. Also, you're right, his flex on the Super Metroid speedrunning community was pure gold.
flexing harder than the Luchador in Rhythm Heaven
@teknomogul "Aaron would have to shit himself out of the freaking galaxy to match that" ? Yeah, not the same effect dude.
@@OvoJeGovno in England it's part of an expression, as in "shitting all over the competition"
I love how people don't get angry when their records are broken. It just prompts them to improve and find a way to take it back. Such a rad community
PK StarStorm yeah its almost like an extremely difficult pursuit would have humble participants
How do you know that they weren't angry?
It's kinda cool, they are competing against each other in the sense that they want to get the WR, but they are working together in the sense that they want to see the game reach its maximum limit. TASers also play a huge role in finding new things, and everyone that are into running one specific game, work together to push the game to its limit. Then it's just up to whoever to nail the record. They are really hype for eachother when records are beaten.
You should have experienced the silent hill community.
There is nothing wrong with anger, it's how you use it. Also, you can be angry about a thing and not at the person.
Hotarubi saving the animals makes me chuckle.
Kill the saves, frame the animals.
"I'd rather flex my muscles"
I like your profile picture Tlaloc1
Hey man, I always save the animals too :)
Game Theory fan?
Having been in the Super Metroid community since May of 2011, I can't begin to tell you how satisfying this video was, and I can't thank you enough for doing the research and presenting it all so well. The majority of these runners are people I consider good friends, so it's amazing to see it all put together and for their story and the story of the Super Metroid community to be shared. Thank you, and keep making great videos and providing a positive source of content for the speedrunning community as a whole.
Glad you liked it!
You're in this video for about .1 second at 13:35, Kronic.
GRATS MAN
+Kronicsauce you're a good friend! i'll fight you later o/ aluHype
Kronicsauce well Said.. I concur.
Watching this after oats just ran a 40:36 … amazing how far he’s come since this video came out
I was so happy for him: he did so good
29th April 2019
WR Name: Behemoth87
Real Time: 40m 56s
In-Game Time: 27m 00s
Route:PRKD
Oats got behemothed
@@Kyle49840 He wasn't; that's not what the term means. When people say "behemothed" they mean the new record came seemingly out of nowhere, as it happened when Behe recorded both his 45:22 and 43:48 without revealing his progress that lead up to these times. But in this case both Zoast and Behemoth returned to grinding the any% in late 2017 on stream and very gradually-a few seconds at a time, no double-digit improvements anymore-brought the time down in a constant back-and-forth. This time none of the progress came out of nowhere: it was all publicly built up, followed, and greatly anticipated.
@@moozooh the dude's name is behemoth; pretty sure it's a pun bro.
@@Aimia4 watch the video again.
@@moozooh I know he made the reference in the video. What of it?
My rare-to-give sincere feedback: Please continue this series. The effort is noticed and so appreciated. I've always enjoyed speedruns in any capacity, but your way of breaking down the different chronicles of glitches and milestones is a complete treat. Usually this is stuff where we can only know half the story through stumbling upon the different runs. Your thorough coverage off all the specific interesting in-between stuff that would literally be impossible for myself to put aside the energy and time to discover is professional and concise, yet detailed and explained well enough to really the build a great story behind the runs. Thanks for the videos so far... Looking forward to what's to come!
Also great upload timing. Right before bed; I'll have some great dreams tonight.
AMEN
Couldn't have said it any better!
Looks like you got your wish. How’ve the past 7 years of this series been treating ya?
It's great to see how much Summoning Salt has improved over the years. Super Metroid is one of my favorite games and I would love to see a remake/follow-up to this video, because a game such as this deserves the insane production value of modern Summoning Salt
I LOVE THE HEADPHONE WARNING! Why don't more people do this? I'm fine with that level of noise/distortion, with a heads up about 2.5-4 seconds beforehand. That's a classy move from a classy channel.
Yeah, this is probably the best channel about speedrunning in terms of quality. This guy's a legend, his videos are so epic.
Yo, HOTARUBI is back!
He is once again running super Metroid.
Good times.
His channel is called htrb
Edit: He renamed it back to Hotarubi. Seems hes getting more serious again. Hes also Posting very active lately!
Watch him pull another flex just because he can
Good to hear. All the use of past tense when mentioning him in these videos made it sound like he had died or disappeared.
I appreciate the use of NHL 96 music
That menu music slaps
Thought I was gonna be the only one who noticed lol.😂
I appreciate you, SNES drunk.
Same
Also... is Shovel Knight music slippe in, or is it my imagination?
"they knew no-one could beat hotarubi"
16 minutes left on the vid
At the time they really couldnt. It took 6 years and the discovery of several new tricks and strategies to beat his run. The run that eventually beat his was nowhere near the same level of execution, it just had improved strats.
@@juyifan7933 yes, i get that. thank you.
Speedrunning is so full of anime betrayals and plot twists.
"HAH! You think you had secured the ultimate world record, but it was I, BEHEMOTH!"
NANIIII
Kono Behemoth da!
And todd rogers is the 4kids dub
J E L L Y F I L L E D D O N U T
Shush, weeb!
Caleb Sherman
*Good one .*
What's funny is, "KPDR" is the intended route. At least, it seems like it with the way you get power-ups. It's crazy that it took so long for people to look at doing the bosses out of order, especially since they are using tricks that allow them to skip some power-ups anyway.
I dunno, there are a TON of categories for this game, with Reverse Boss Order being one of the more known (and crazier) ones, so it's really more that people hadn't put enough thought into optimizing every aspect of a full run for speed with virtually every combination of bosses possible. Thought of that way, it's more understandable.
Is not that they didnt think about it, is just that many tricks had to be figured out before the current route became viable. The current Phantoon kill method took a while to be figured out. Without it, going for Phantoon first was a bad idea since the fight would take way too long without a 2 cycle kill method. Also to even consider the current route it was necessary to know all the quick speed boost tricks necessary in lower norfair. Untill behemoth came around and figured out all the necessary details, the route was simply not viable.
In short, they did look into it, but there were several technical difficulties to be solved before another route was WR viable.
Kraid before Ridley is definitely intended because of the Varia Suit being a necessity for the average player to get through Norfair.
@Bulb 66 it is, it's why it's so surprising nobody considered doing a different boss order for a whole decade
Well, it makes sense the intended route would be the fastest. The order you get the upgrades hugely impact how fast you can get through an area. Consider this: It took years of research and experimentation with different routes to find a viable one, and even then, it only saved a MAXIMUM of around 100 seconds. I think that’s more surprising than anything.
Would be huge to do an updated version of this, would love to see the current day Summoning Salt WR Progression story telling magic applied to the current day Oats n Goats Super Metroid magic.
Throwing in on the call for an updated version. Oats slays WR with sweat and tears
This is officially one of my favorite series on youtube.
JihadNinja yea man, I just commented on how needless to say creative but how his formula works and will continue to work without ever becoming stagnate.
Mine too, a reason is that the fact that IT ISN'T A F***ING FU**NITE CHANNEL. And that this is really interesting.
Update on Super Metroid WR
Behemoth - 41:18.
41:05, behemoth
41:03 Behemoth ;)
@@edu2076 where can I find the vid? :)
@@Tocy777isback0414 deertier.com/Leaderboard/AnyPercentRealTime deertier is where they put all there vid!
Behemoth now has a sub-41.
We need a Hotarubi special. You can do a series on especially prolific speedrunners who held MANY records such as him, Billy Mitchell and others. A good off-shoot to the sort of stuff you are already producing. Pls Lord.
-NN- oof this aged poorly
Billy Mitchel was found out.
-NN- that or werster would be cool
Billy Mitchell? How bout Todd Rogers while you're at it? Such skill...lmao
Billy is obviously a cheat, but he is an undeniably good player. Todd is just mediocre at best. Billy’s problem is he couldn’t settle with being the 3rd or 4th best at any of his games, he had to be #1
after 3 years, oatsandgoats took the record back from zoast, now at 40:36
2021 update summoning salt? The WR categories have really narrowed down. And we have some SICK low% runs, impossible hack WRs. Absolutely worthy of your commentary.
What a nice bedtime surprise
Nickster65 i was about to say the same.
same. Now I can sleep peacefully knowing all there is to know about metroid speedrunning
What a gold mine concept you got yourself involved with. These are always such a treat to watch. Please keep them up man. And we appreciate the work as usual!
God I love when one of these pops up in my subscription feed
im so glad to finally understand the origin of the "save the animals" meme, as well as the term behemoth'd. i saw both quite often under various speedrun videos but never looked up what it means. glad i stumbled over it on your amazing series. thanks!
"Thr ingame timer is fairly accurate"
*Immediately Afterwards*
"He got a 0:38, or 52 minutes real time."
*What?!*
The in-game timer doesn't care about things like screen transitions or cutscenes, IIRC.
LordUzaki also it’s consistent between runs and games.
Why in-game timer for Metroid Fusion is more important
@@AwesomeHairo The main thing is it would ruin all the times currently on the leaderboard, it would completely invalidate the english category since japanese would be like 15 minutes shorter, and in general, it would be a big change for where the community is at. Not to mention the fact that half the real time is cutscenes.
@@jijonbreaker There is also not much reason to switch to real time. In SM, the choice of timing has a major effect on the route used, but in Fusion, you have to take practically the same route no matter what. So while in SM, it is totally reasonable for one person to have a much faster in-game time but much slower real time, in Fusion, that's not really a thing.
You can really feel his pain when he accidentally kneels instead of dropping down into her ship! Great video, I love that you capture those critical moments that lead to a new world record, and their efforts to make new strategies.
The music choices are on point too. Great work!
Hotarubi: Hmm, I've got too much time on my hands... lets save the animals.
Fun Fact: DPRK Route is called "North Korea%"
#BlameSephy
caslaBBalsac why?
@@B3nnettB [D]emocratic [P]eoples [R]epublic of [K]orea - in short DPRK.
Its always nice to get a break from current issues by going back through the summoning salt catalog. I hope you're doing well man.
The world record today 9/11 19, stands at 40:56 set by Behemoth on the 7th of may.
I was wondering where it was at today. I know at least 1 new strat was made where u moonwalk or something off platforms cause it makes u fall faster I think? I read about it awhile ago can't remember.
@@seanfeld- now check out "moon dance", you can fall through floors
zoast topped it by a second four months ago
Love the series on World Record Progressions. Keep em up!
Good work on the intro and the whole video. Your comment section is the friendliest place on UA-cam. I love you.
The fact that Metroid speed runs end with the escape makes them all so great to watch. You can feel the tension at the end.
"See you next mission"
Or, in the same mission. 10,000 more times
World record now is a 40:55 by Zoast and Behemoth in 2nd with a 40:56.
Zoast is down to 40:46 now.
@@joelman1989 does zoast still hold the record or is it zeni?
@@mangodotexe Zeni is 25th on any%, but he has the record on 100% and Reverse Boss Order.
Well now it's 40:45 he just got it today. Zoast is unreal
Top 3 is now
Zoast - 40:45
Oats n' Goats - 40:49
Behemoth - 40:56
Crazy
If GDQ dosn't work something out with you to show these during intermissions or something they are really missing out. These are really awesome!
Nofoxas156156 He needs to get very accurate with his research then. Some of his older videos are a little sloppy.
in what way?
legit, this is what GDQ needs. they'll be like speed running history minutes hahah.
This is my favorite one of your videos, it’s so well done. I’ve watched it more times than I can count. I even watch it to help me go to sleep sometimes
It’s absolutely mind boggling that a game with this much complex freedom can go over 25 years without players finding a game breaking glitch.
There are game breaking glitches, but I suppose you mean one that helps complete the game faster.
@@Ehal256 Those also exist. They just have a different category for that.
You have to make an update now that Oats literally smashed the current world record!!!!
I love these videos so much, i can watch them 1000 times... never gets old, ty summoning salt!
Such an underrated Summoning Salt video. I think this one definitely matches the quality that all of his videos have met. Not to say the 4 or so before didn't meet the same quality. But this one, narratively, just feels so good. Love these videos man
loving these videos. Keep em up!
6 thousand views in less than an hour- you're on to something- keep this up dude
You're the kindest person on UA-cam entirely due to putting up "headphone warnings" in your videos
It's a gimmick. He could just have lowered the volume when he was editing the video.
Jonas Rosenven don’t be a negative nanny
Have to experience the excitement 100%, mate.
Even if the volume was lowered, it would still sound crackled anyway.
Would be amazing to see a 'Part 2'. Never thought we'd ever see a 40 run.
It's worth mentioning that the KPDR boss order used by Smokey and other runners of the time is the same boss order that the game designers intended most players to use. Although Smokey skipped many parts of the intended route ("sequence-breaking") like the miniboss Crocomire, required to get the Grapple Beam, he did not change the boss order because at the time, this was still the fastest route known within the capabilities of the runners. The sequence breaks Smokey used were still very significant though. For instance, the Grapple Beam allows for a relatively quick kill on Draygon, which becomes a difficult fight without it.
There are some inaccurate claims in the video. For example, Smokey fought Mother Brain with 5 energy tanks, so none of her attacks could kill him in one hit. Today, top runners fight her with just 3 tanks, the minimum possible, so if they get hit by a single red beam ("ketchup"), they will not have enough energy remaining to survive her "rainbow beam," which is unavoidable.
Probably the biggest omission though was Twocat. While Zoast and oatsngoats were grinding the 41, there was fierce competition at the same time from Twocat and Kottpower. It was a four-way race for quite a while before Zoasty and oats really started to pull ahead. Behemoth started to catch up too. The way you describe it makes it sound like oats and zoast were the only two in the running, which is just not the case. And it's still not the case today. Behemoth could easily show up and behemoth oats any day now. And indeed, all of these runners mentioned (along with a few others) have world records in at least one category.
I'd love to see one of these for Sunshine
I'm sure that's coming
SuperYinzer 100th like yay
How about instead of killing or saving the animals, we meet halfway and put them in a coma?
Wilfred Cthulu holy shit it's you again, stop, your in every ducking comment section.
Takes too long
Euthanize the animals!
4 3 2 1
What if the animals are in a superposition of both killed and saved?
I’m watching all of Summoning’s videos for a second time. They are so well put together and easy to listen to. Well done man, let’s see some more progression vids!
If anyone's been wondering, the current WR is 41:19 by Zoast.
behemoth has 41m 33s and zoast has 41m 42s
w1zard no he recently tied behemoth, zoast has a WR comparison video on the runs
Jack Siegfried incoming 41:24 by zoast... awaiting verification
just last week zoast got the WR again. was mentioned in a week in speedrunning recap. forget his time exactly, but he's supposed back on top though it's not listed yet. saw the clip from his live stream on the recap video
Ryan Wellman - yeah, that's the one I was talking bout. hopefully it gets verified soon. Behemoth is my favorite SM runner but zoast is still freaking amazing. insane how low the record has gotten
All of these WR Progressions have been really well done. Subbing for more. Wouldnt mind seeing some other big title games like Zelda LttP or OoT. castlevania 4 had some fun wr swapping in 2015 and recent strats that have come out to push the record further down.
So glad I found your channel you've got some great content keep it up!
It's December 2019 and Zoast is currently streaming Super Metroid. Gotta love that hustle
I'm running out of Summoning Salt speedrunning docs to watch! D:
...I feel ya.. I been on a binge..lol
It's a real problem
It's so few, seems like a Speedrun when binging them.
Looking at the LB now, zoast is back in first, nearly all of the top 20 scores in any% were submitted 1-5 years ago. The most recent scores were submitted 1 week, 3 months, and 4 months ago, at #10, #16, and #13, respectively, with #20 being 42:57, an already extremely difficult time to get. It's one thing for the top 5 to stagnate, but for the top 20 to stagnate and given the barrier to entry even in the top 20 means any% is dead until someone strikes gold again. The scores on the 100% cat are all much more recent.
@summoning_salt YESSS. Can we please get a vid for 100%?
Wow this comment aged like milk. ;) Zoast 40:45 on 2022-10-24
@@faaltoh I have to nitpick your wording. When you say something "aged like milk", you are implying that it is wrong or made a bad prediction. I said "any% is dead _until someone strikes gold again"._ According to you, Zoast got a PB in October and any% has since revived. This does not contradict what I said.
You should make one just about Hotarubi. These are great!
shoutouts to me in the chat at 18:04 !!! (Swaaz) best game ever made !!!
garrison got me into speedrunning long live the king that in my opinion made the game more popular into what it is now today considered "mainstream"
zoast and behemoth are living legends, ive even skipped meals just to sub to zoast during hard times just for the sheer amount of live entertainment he has given us all
oh and cant forget the god of ceres oatsngoats (who has turned PC lately which was unfortunate but he is still awesome)
im soo passionate about this that i cant stop without mentioning kott aswell... this comment has turned into a mess now
I would love to see and update on this one day and of course a 100% WR progression and thanks for mentioning me in the video with the routing for the current Any% Route!!! I will say it was mostly Smokey, Reeve and Behemoth. I pretty much just said that going Phantoon First would be the only definite time save for RTA and they took it from there. I appreciate the credit none the less though, Thank You!!!
It’s absolutely insane how far the record has moved since Hotarubi’s seemingly unbeatable time. His once unfathomable pace now ranks 153 officially. Hell, even oatsandgoats has been bumped out of the top 5 since this was posted.
Not surprising to me. 16 years is an eternity in speed running especially pre TAS.
And now Oats stands atop the mountain once more. 40:36.
Loving this series! I hope you cover Earthbound someday! I've always been interested in the tricks for those runs.
We need a follow-up to this video after Oatsngoats's recent 9-second improvement on the WR!
The record changed hands several times, but then something nobody could predict happened:
Out of nowhere, a new challenger emerged, securing the record.
Then the record changed hands several times, but then something nobody could predict happened:
Out of nowhere, a new challenger emerged, securing the record.
Then the record changed hands several ti-
I feel like there's only ever one twist when it comes to emerging records.
This makes even more confusing and lack of gameplay details
Arcus disagrees.
My friend recommended me your youtube channel to watch speedruns because he said that he can tell how much you enjoy talking about it. This is my first time watching one of your videos and I enjoyed it! You're very detailed and precise. Love it, keep it up. :D
These World Record Progression videos are awesome! Keep up the fine work.
Metroid community “ Hotorubi’s time is to good we have to make a segment run to beat it”
Hotorubi “and I took that personally”
20:38 “oatsngoats was streaming 41 attempts nearly every day” Christ! Where do you even find time for that?
No he was trying to beat the 41 minutes mark...
Not 41 Attemps a day
Oh fuck
Was that ironic?
oh shit. i thought it was 41 attempts at first too lmao
@Trevor Horton Not if you were restarting the majority of attempts due to mistakes early on in the game.
@@failinginamerica true, but he was streaming *almost* sub 42:00 attempts every day
I love these videos, man. SM Sunshine, next? ❤
DavidFowlerMusic you speedrun david? Lol
The _Agitated _Agarians hahaha no I don't but I'm fascinated by it. It's what I watch instead of the superbowl or whatever
DavidFowlerMusic haha same here man ! not good enough to play but entertaining as f*ck to watch!
SM sunshine has already been done
It's made by another youtuber
After watching several of these vids, I think these are the most well-researched and well put-together video game vids on UA-cam. Awesome job on such a wide variety of games!
Great coverage! I love your thoroughness and enthusiasm for speed runs as a spectator. ;)
UPDATE: Oats got the first sub 40:40!
2021 super Metroid is waiting for you Summoning Salt
Update video?
Oats.
@@MudrasofEarth oas
Yeah we definitely need a RBO and an update ON any %... I suppose this is why salt is so good at what he does he knows when we need it not when we need it 😂
Definitely needed. So much has happened
Been a long time since I’ve watched these first classic Summoning Salt vids, time to relive the goodness
Damn I annot stop watching these videos, so well made, its such a satisfying emotional progression with each one Ive aatched so far, the formula is just right with an enthusiastic narration. Its channels with creators like these that have me stumped as to why there isnt much exposure as more popular videos with really nothing close to offer. Good work on these brotha.
Watched this years before and rewatching it now, because at the moment there is a Super Metroid Race Tournament and it seems, Oats meets Zoast in the final round!^^
I’d love an update on this and deeper looks at how the strategy discoveries changed. It’s still such a hot game and constantly improving.
And now the record sits at 40:36... Will we ever see sub 40?
Not without somehow incorporating a lot of TAS strats. I still think 40:2X will happen some day, but it's gonna take amazing RNG. Oats barely made any major mistakes (only two that I noticed, both in the last 20 seconds, and he maybe lost one second to both of them put together) and almost all of his time losses were due to bad drops and other RNG (fast-fast Phantoon would have been nice).
I'm not that invested in speedruns, but you cut it down to the interesting parts and make it entertaining. Well edited. Nice voiceover. Pacing is great. Good choice in music. I really enjoy your content.
learned about this channel and this video series not too long ago and I've been watching every WRP
they are incredibly entertaining and so interesting! when i catch up i'm going to be waiting eagerly for the next one
"Samus, go do this thing."
*a good few minutes later*
"It hasn't even been an hour what the-"
Have you considered doing a series that focuses specifically on the evolution of the techniques and strategies used in the games, whether they were considered TAS-only at some point, how they were discovered and exploited, etc?
Great work. Can't wait for more content.
I'm happy to read this comment I made from 5 years ago and see how the speedrun documentary community has evolved since then. It's awesome.
Honestly, during the later half of the video I was expecting Hotorubi to come back out the blue and lower the WR just to piss people off.
22:12 "Seemly Endingless" 🤣🤣🤣
But don't worry; we got what you meant. Great video!
This video deserves a 2023 update. A new technique, "moonfall" was relatively recently discovered and has pushed down the theoretical time by quite a bit. On top of that, Zoast has perfected a level of execution that seems absolutely unreal. The current WR by Zoast is now 40:45 with 27 min in-game time which is absolutely BONKERS. Nobody seems to be willing to even try beating it any more. Also, as another commenter pointed out, it would be interesting to have a look at 100% runs as well. Peace.
Oats is getting there
Another great video Summoning! Thanks for keeping the history of the hobby alive!
Might I suggest a more modern game for the next video? Ive always been interested in how the Mirrors Edge community brought the time down to a 31:42
22:13 "endingless"
That's some quality diction.
The goat
just came across your videos the other day dude (7/09/2018) gotta say you really do your homework man. Love the content keep up the good work
hey salt, just stopping by on my weekly rewatch to say i love this video in particular so much.
That second Behemothing, with PRKD being unveiled, was absolutely mindblowing at the time. I haven't seen anything like it since.
WR set 2020-04-24: Zoast 40m55s. More than one minute below the time from the progression vid. Crazy!
A new WR has just been set by Oats: 40m36s. A 10s improvement! Amazing!
Hey man, you should consider updating this video. It'd be really cool to see you talk about how these runners have continually pushed the strats in new route from old route, and have really made this run a hair raising effort as it is today.
This video here got me into watching speedruns of this game years ago, and since then, the runners have just done absolutely bonkers things.
Zoasty is currently on top with a 40:46 time, and Behemoth87 is holding second place with a 40:56.
Zoast landed a 40:55, and was grinding to improve his time for months, then earlier this week had two runs back to back a day apart that went to 40:50, then 40:46, and he's decided to temporarily stop the grind. He's actually practicing old route to see what can be pushed there!
Hello there.
@@thesimiccombine3192 Lizard Fish Kenobi!
Just came back to re-watch this for a 10th time, Zoast took back the WR 10 days ago by 10 seconds. Love every video you have made so far and was here before 10k subs.
Summoning Salt, these videos are just fascinating to watch! Well done! 😀
Amazing that this has since been brought down by 1:10 to 40:46 as of last week. 40:2X is probably possible with current routing, assuming perfect execution and favorable RNG.