I applied this in September of 2022. It's presently March of 2023, so it's been about 6 months now, and we've been through one of the most nasty winters in California in ages; just cold and rain, and rain, and rain, and then a lot more rain. My shop is in the unheated garage, so it's been seeing temperature swings down to freezing and up to 70F, and did I mention, it's been a bit wet here. As in, the tools have been getting some use with that whole Ark building thing. Absolutely zero rust problems. This stuff seems to be the real deal, at least in my limited experience.
I live in Coast NC and this is a big help to me. I products you are using here are also reasonably priced compared to others. Very Helpful, thank you. Also I just discovered your page, I subscribe to most of the big woodworking channels and I think yours is on par with any of thiers. You deserve more followers than you have. I'm going to post this vid in various wood work groups I"m in on a couple fronts maybe help you out. You deserve it. Thanks bro
Thank you very much! And welcome to the channel! I know the humidity down there is just as bad. Thank you for going out of your way to help the channel. 😀
I'm so glad I live in a low humidity environment. Recently, we had a few days with 60-65% humidity (summer time) and i hated every moment of it. I'm used to having 35-40% humidity in February. I can't imagine having your humidity levels year-round 😱
@@TimberBiscuitWoodworks oh gosh. I can only imagine. Glad to see your cast iron has some decent protection now. I might need to invest in Carbon Method too because, believe it or not, rust still forms on stuff here. It also seems to form quicker than it should and I think it's due to our close proximity to the ocean (salty air)
@@TimberBiscuitWoodworks indeed. That carbon method stuff you used looks rather interesting. I think the scientist in me is very curious on how it "bonds" to the surface of the metal. After your video I feel like I've seen enough UA-camrs use the stuff for me to seriously consider investing in it.
Yeah, I still haven’t seen any surface rust since I applied the Carbon Coat and I reapply the Carbon Glide every few weeks. It’s been really effective.
Having detailed my cars for years, graphene coating is one of the several different nano-coatings that have been introduced to the car care industry in the past few years. I always wondered how graphene or the ceramic nano coatings would do with shop equipment surfaces.
Did you go through this process with the jointer and band saw at the same time you did your table saw? For example, did you put coat one on table saw, jointer and then band saw, then repeat that three more times. If you did, were you able to use the same side of the application pad for each tool for that round? I’m just dying to figure out what I need to order. Thanks!
Yeah, that’s exactly what I did. Because the pad was still damp, I didn’t need to use a new side. You just have to kind of move quickly so it doesn’t harden on the pad. The quick kit for two plus tools was the one I used. And there’s still no rust! 😀
@@TimberBiscuitWoodworks That kit comes with two bottles of the carbon coat. Did you you have some left over or did you have to be be kinda stingy with it on the last few coats to get it done. I have a 36 inch sawstop pcs, 6 inch jointer and the 1412 Laguna bandsaw. I don’t want to run out of product yet don’t want a bunch left over either. Thanks for the advice,
The one I got just had one bottle, but it was more than the single bottle for one tool, 1 oz vs .5 oz. But it was plenty to do the three tools plus extra for future coats.
How effective do you think this stuff would be on tools with a textured surface to the cast iron? My Hammer-Felder planer bed is machined with a slightly course texture on the surface.
I think it would be fine. The main thing is just to wick away the excess so you don’t get any pooling. Other than that it would work great. Mine is still going strong.
The kit I bought came with 1oz of the Carbon Coat. I would guess that I used 3/4oz for four coats on all three tools. I also did my little drill press bed but didn’t film that one.
I’ve been thinking about trying this stuff out. I’m just south of Houston, so lots of humidity here too! After applying 4 coats to your machines, how much of the product do you have left? Do you have to completely remove it and apply 4 coat’s again next time or just a touch up coat?
Good question! I have enough to do another coat or two on all of my machines, and the next time it is just a reapplication of the carbon coat. You don’t have to take it down to bare metal again.
They are still going strong. I haven’t had to retreat any of my cast iron tables not have had any issues with surface rust. I can 100% back this stuff.
First week of having my SawStop PCS 3HP, I sat a spray bottle of water on the table and forgot to grab it… a lil drop of water leaked on the table. I’m still sick about it.
I ordered Carbon Method through your link. Only question I have what color scotch pads did you use? I have a little surface rust. I’m guessing the white will take care of this? TIA.
Sorry, follow up on what part? If you mean the Carbon Method system in general, so far so good. I haven't had any issues and am still working off this initial application.
Good video about protecting the tops of the equipment but why would I want to spend so much for the carbon coating when when we can use products which cost less? I do like your woodworking videos they are informative.
Valid question. I have used just about every product under the Sun when comes to trying to prevent surface rust. I actually just had a friend move here who didn't heed my warning about it and ended up spending three days removing from his tools after being here a week. Anyway, I have applied carbon coat one time in a year and in that time I have had zero rust and my tops look just about as good as the day I applied it. So for the time saved and the protection it still affords, I personally think it is worth the cost.
Thanks for your opinion on carbon method. I'd really like to try that stuff out, but it's quite pricey to ship it to Europe/Germany. I wonder if it also works on handtools like planes in order to protect them from rust in a damp basement
No worries! Yeah, they said it works really well on hand tools too. I plan on trying it out on a few of my lesser used planes. I'll post some updates on those too.
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I applied this in September of 2022. It's presently March of 2023, so it's been about 6 months now, and we've been through one of the most nasty winters in California in ages; just cold and rain, and rain, and rain, and then a lot more rain. My shop is in the unheated garage, so it's been seeing temperature swings down to freezing and up to 70F, and did I mention, it's been a bit wet here. As in, the tools have been getting some use with that whole Ark building thing. Absolutely zero rust problems. This stuff seems to be the real deal, at least in my limited experience.
Well that’s great to hear! I’m really excited about opening up the shop for the next few months.
I live in Coast NC and this is a big help to me. I products you are using here are also reasonably priced compared to others. Very Helpful, thank you. Also I just discovered your page, I subscribe to most of the big woodworking channels and I think yours is on par with any of thiers. You deserve more followers than you have. I'm going to post this vid in various wood work groups I"m in on a couple fronts maybe help you out. You deserve it. Thanks bro
Thank you very much! And welcome to the channel! I know the humidity down there is just as bad. Thank you for going out of your way to help the channel. 😀
I’ve really been wanting to try this out. Thanks for sharing your thoughts, it put me over the hump.
Awesome! I think you're gonna be impressed.
Saw Wood Whisperer's video on this stuff, so good to hear another positive result with this stuff. Might have to pick some up for my tools soon.
Yeah, it’s still going strong. I’ve only have to apply the carbon glide a few times.
Great video Shane! Thank you!
Thanks! Diggin it so far!
How do I obtain these plans for the outfeed table?
I just saw your order, glad you found them!
I'm so glad I live in a low humidity environment. Recently, we had a few days with 60-65% humidity (summer time) and i hated every moment of it. I'm used to having 35-40% humidity in February. I can't imagine having your humidity levels year-round 😱
Oh that sounds so nice! Haha, it’s miserable in the summertime here.
@@TimberBiscuitWoodworks oh gosh. I can only imagine.
Glad to see your cast iron has some decent protection now. I might need to invest in Carbon Method too because, believe it or not, rust still forms on stuff here. It also seems to form quicker than it should and I think it's due to our close proximity to the ocean (salty air)
I have that problem as well, I’m only about 8 minutes from the beach. It does a number on the tools for sure.
@@TimberBiscuitWoodworks indeed.
That carbon method stuff you used looks rather interesting. I think the scientist in me is very curious on how it "bonds" to the surface of the metal. After your video I feel like I've seen enough UA-camrs use the stuff for me to seriously consider investing in it.
Yeah I’m not sure on that one but it definitely feels pretty well bonded.
Hey Shane do you notice a big difference on the jointer?
Yeah, I still haven’t seen any surface rust since I applied the Carbon Coat and I reapply the Carbon Glide every few weeks. It’s been really effective.
Having detailed my cars for years, graphene coating is one of the several different nano-coatings that have been introduced to the car care industry in the past few years. I always wondered how graphene or the ceramic nano coatings would do with shop equipment surfaces.
I think that is where this one started. And I know they have a ceramic coating for wood as well. So far, I'm really impressed.
Did you go through this process with the jointer and band saw at the same time you did your table saw? For example, did you put coat one on table saw, jointer and then band saw, then repeat that three more times. If you did, were you able to use the same side of the application pad for each tool for that round? I’m just dying to figure out what I need to order. Thanks!
Yeah, that’s exactly what I did. Because the pad was still damp, I didn’t need to use a new side. You just have to kind of move quickly so it doesn’t harden on the pad. The quick kit for two plus tools was the one I used. And there’s still no rust! 😀
@@TimberBiscuitWoodworks That kit comes with two bottles of the carbon coat. Did you you have some left over or did you have to be be kinda stingy with it on the last few coats to get it done. I have a 36 inch sawstop pcs, 6 inch jointer and the 1412 Laguna bandsaw. I don’t want to run out of product yet don’t want a bunch left over either. Thanks for the advice,
The one I got just had one bottle, but it was more than the single bottle for one tool, 1 oz vs .5 oz. But it was plenty to do the three tools plus extra for future coats.
How effective do you think this stuff would be on tools with a textured surface to the cast iron? My Hammer-Felder planer bed is machined with a slightly course texture on the surface.
I think it would be fine. The main thing is just to wick away the excess so you don’t get any pooling. Other than that it would work great. Mine is still going strong.
What is the name of the product used for removing rust?
It's called PB Blaster, here's a link to it - amzn.to/3Z7lNaC
How much product did you use to do all the coats on all the machines in this video?
The kit I bought came with 1oz of the Carbon Coat. I would guess that I used 3/4oz for four coats on all three tools. I also did my little drill press bed but didn’t film that one.
I’ve been thinking about trying this stuff out. I’m just south of Houston, so lots of humidity here too! After applying 4 coats to your machines, how much of the product do you have left? Do you have to completely remove it and apply 4 coat’s again next time or just a touch up coat?
Good question! I have enough to do another coat or two on all of my machines, and the next time it is just a reapplication of the carbon coat. You don’t have to take it down to bare metal again.
2 rounds of Carbon Cleanse and another 2-4 layers and your Golden
Hey @TimberBiscuitWoodworks, how's your cast iron surfaces holding up after a year now? Thanks in advance for an update :)
They are still going strong. I haven’t had to retreat any of my cast iron tables not have had any issues with surface rust. I can 100% back this stuff.
First week of having my SawStop PCS 3HP, I sat a spray bottle of water on the table and forgot to grab it… a lil drop of water leaked on the table. I’m still sick about it.
Ah man yeah that’s unfortunate
I ordered Carbon Method through your link. Only question I have what color scotch pads did you use? I have a little surface rust. I’m guessing the white will take care of this? TIA.
Awesome! Let me know how you like it. White should be fine unless you have a lot of surface rust, in which case you should get gray too.
Hey, any followup on that ? cheers
Sorry, follow up on what part? If you mean the Carbon Method system in general, so far so good. I haven't had any issues and am still working off this initial application.
Thanks, that's exactly what I was wondering@@TimberBiscuitWoodworks
Good video about protecting the tops of the equipment but why would I want to spend so much for the carbon coating when when we can use products which cost less?
I do like your woodworking videos they are informative.
Valid question. I have used just about every product under the Sun when comes to trying to prevent surface rust. I actually just had a friend move here who didn't heed my warning about it and ended up spending three days removing from his tools after being here a week. Anyway, I have applied carbon coat one time in a year and in that time I have had zero rust and my tops look just about as good as the day I applied it. So for the time saved and the protection it still affords, I personally think it is worth the cost.
Thanks for your opinion on carbon method. I'd really like to try that stuff out, but it's quite pricey to ship it to Europe/Germany. I wonder if it also works on handtools like planes in order to protect them from rust in a damp basement
No worries! Yeah, they said it works really well on hand tools too. I plan on trying it out on a few of my lesser used planes. I'll post some updates on those too.
My rage monster almost escaped when you set down that glass of water lol
Haha, that’s understandable!
isn't graphene a dangerous chemical?
If you ingest it, sure. But not in this situation.
@@TimberBiscuitWoodworks sure but graphene transfers from surface to wood. wood dust goes into the air and into you.
@@PatriotMango it’s suspended in the solution then hardens. The same argument can be said about anything you use as a protective coating.
@Timber Biscuit Woodworks it's true about other protectants. if you have to reapply every year then it means it's coming off the surface.
The only bad dad joke is the one that goes untold.. 😡😝😉
Hahaha, I'll have to keep that in mind!
Haha! This was an incredible Dad Joke 😂 I am totally going to use it!
What do you know it's a Dad joke? It's apparent :)
Ha! I might have to borrow that one
Shane a few things... One ALWAYS dance like no one is watching & two if you ever stop telling dad jokes I'm freakin outa here!! Hoping all is well Bud, Dirty Jersey out!!
Haha! For sure!
You should treat just one half of one of your tools and check in with us in 3 and 6 months. Show us treated versus non treated over time.
I have a few tools I haven’t treated so I think I can still do that.
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