Mapping people with slugs just feels like... a different kind of power. You kill somebody with a pellet shotty, whatever, you kill them with a fusion, they get angrier and push you more. You kill them enough times seemingly out of nowhere with a slug, you traumatize them and they don't push that corner against you anymore. Slug life can be addicting.
0:00 - Intro 0:58 - No Reprieve 1:46 - Bone Chiller 3:02 - First In, Last Out 3:42 - Sojourner's Tale 4:26 - Blasphemer, Fortissimo 5:34 - Supercluster 6:26 - Nessa's Oblation 7:32 - Duality 9:03 - Gunnora's Axe 10:07 - The Inquisitor 11:44 - The Heritage 12:48 - The Chaperone 14:14 - Lord of Wolves 15:15 - Tier List
Duality is bugged but also maybe I am the only one but I have a lot of kill lags with the slugs. After a shot it takes a sec or two till you see them killed. Anyone else with similar experiance?
Fortissimo belongs in A Tier AT LEAST (more like A+ Tier). Fluted, Accurized, Threat, Opening and Range put it at 94 range, 96 handling and 67 aim assist. It also feels way better than Nessa’s and Super Cluster due to higher AA, Threat Detector and the Suros sights.
Yeah it can be very good. I will say nessa gets pretty identical stats so I’d probably say it’s fair to bump it up. For me it more came to the likely hood of actually getting that roll
Duality has been my favourite gun ever since I found out about it. It's so versatile since it can also be a pellet, yet it still can map people like Chaperone or Inquisitor with Opening shot.
I'm still learning slugs but your vids have been invaluable in learning to use them properly. Currently chasing gunnoras, I haven't gotten a single opening shot roll all week
loved your sniper vid, so glad when I saw this come out. I am not good with slugs but I like using them. I got lucky because I somehow had a pretty good roll of fortissimo and Gunnora's. I even have 3 different crafted heritages lol (and all the other ones)... but somehow super cluster just works the best for me. The sound it makes, the feel, and it just feels more consistent than other slugs i've used. I have an ALH/OS bonechiller that I rarely used because of handling, but now that titans get ophidians via exotic class item I've been messing with that again too.
Gunnora's is also one of the few rolls with ricochet rounds (if not the only), which lets you shoot around corners. That moves it above Inquisitor for me.
something about those sights on a lot of the legendary slug shotguns (gunnora's axe is my baby) are just so clean to the point where 9 times out of 10 i would rather use a legendary slug shotgun with the suros sights than either of the exotics even with a non exotic primary.
9:55 brother you forgot to mention skulking wolfs, literally invis+dilation when you get a kill with low health, it happens all the times with any close quarters shotty fight, its very good in both 3s and 6s.
Would you value Freehand Grip or Targeting Adjuster on a hipfire heritage more? Also, I remember reading that ADS and Hipfire have the same range on slugs... so if you have hipfire heritage, is ADSing still worth it over just sending it once the reticule is on their head and you are within that 8-9m range?
I don’t use the hipfire builds that often because I think it’s more of an mnk thing but basically you’d need to see if hipfire grip makes freehand irrelevant or if they stack together and make it better. If not then TA would be better.
On mnk, only the sojourners tale and heritage feel good for me. Maybe because they both have iron sights that doesn’t wobble when u ads so I can see where I’m aiming at.
I am one of the few Bonechiller enjoyers. I dont know what it is about it, but it's only one of 3 slugs I can hit shots with consistently, the other two being chappy and duality.
I think gunnoras and chaperone are best in slot. They both have something special besides just good stats like the other top tier slugs, that being skulking wolf and roadborne.
Nice content, but just a small QoL improvement when doing a ranking like this. Can you please have a image / name of the gun in one of the corners while discussing it? Half way through your breakdowns, I found myself having to rewind to remind myself of what weapon you were talking about.
I really like bone chiller if you have a build that guarantees 2-3 stacks of surplus. I used to use it a lot with stasis hunter + 6th coyote and I would just not use my charged melee so I always had 2 stacks and most of the time I had either a dodge or a grenade up so 90% of the time I had 3 stacks. Kind of niche but it turns bone chiller into a monster.
Nessa's is actually pretty goated on controller, it has a bit more aim assist so I'm ok with 86 handling and slapping on a dex and targeting mod. Heritage and Nessa's are my top picks when it comes to slugs.
@@Awake_wlIt's been bugged since they decoupled zoom and range. I'm not sure Bungie even acknowledged it's bugged again. (It already had that no range on slug issue a couple of years ago but that got fixed). The missing range shows quite often though when you're used to the non- bugged version. Especially quick clean ups with a body shot or a very ranged hs tend to not kill though they normally should. Love Duality but swapped to Inquisitor because of the bugged range.
Duality was my baby back in peak 120 2 tap meta. But now i dread using it because that leaves me pairing it with a legendary hand cannon. To me they all feel the same and i get bored of using them real quick
Lol I suck with Duality too. Chaperone feels like the head hitbox is everything except there feet so I use that if I use a slug lol. Every now and then tho you play against a guy who mastered Duality and def a force in the right hands but would take awhile to master for sure.
Heritage to me is the best in game It’s just pure magic and I was gifted with THE god roll and I don’t do raids much Ended up deleting it when I got the crafted version kinda sad cuz my kills are gone and ever since the ammo changes using special in general is kinda not worth it Side arm/smg and pulse seem to be the move these days or just forerunner 🙄
If you use ophidians then high aim assist slugs become a lot better such as Bonchiller, Blasphemer with hip fire grip and opening shot has the best aim assist + max range however heritage will still be better ads while still being very good hipfire
@@juhaojanpaa haha yeah I’m not sure why but all of the players I know that really like it are usually mnk. Something about it on controller just didn’t work for me lol
I legit just used 3 Deepsights on No Reprieve….. & it’s RARE to get to crafted cause you can no longer get red borders for so no it’s not actually craftable atm
Yeah I can try to work on one. I just have to use a lot more of them because it’s actually very difficult to rank all of the middle tiers in these haha
@@Awake_wl I personally think RPM of smgs is a big factor. Like 720s like immortal used to feel amazing but now they don't, whereas now 600s feel incredible especially with kill clip and target lock respectively. Also 900s do melt really fast but they lack that range.
Hmm yeah I’ll have to research it and try to get access to all of them. Obviously I know the top ones but once you get to like C and B tier it’s pretty hard. I’m planning on putting tier lists out over time about everything because I love watching tier lists myself and everyone else seems to like them as well so it’s pretty fun lol
slideshot/snap/MT is not the god roll for heritage lmfao. put Offhand + Hipfire grip and enhance them both. with offhand proc'd you have ***fourteen meters*** of range with insane bullet magnetism. it outranges every other option by a mile while also providing the benefits of not having to ads for a precise shot. crafted hipfire heritage is, in my opinion, the best slug in the game, bar none.
Yeah I pointed out offhand strike but the current ammo situation hurts it pretty bad. Other issue for me at least is that hipfire in general is better on mnk than controller so a lot of controller players would just rather use chaperone at that point imo
@@Awake_wl Thats been my experience with heritage. Even on mnk, i found myself scoping in most of the time. Offhand def nasty but with the current ammo economy, i could rarely get more than a double
Mapping people with slugs just feels like... a different kind of power. You kill somebody with a pellet shotty, whatever, you kill them with a fusion, they get angrier and push you more. You kill them enough times seemingly out of nowhere with a slug, you traumatize them and they don't push that corner against you anymore. Slug life can be addicting.
Ykb
0:00 - Intro
0:58 - No Reprieve
1:46 - Bone Chiller
3:02 - First In, Last Out
3:42 - Sojourner's Tale
4:26 - Blasphemer, Fortissimo
5:34 - Supercluster
6:26 - Nessa's Oblation
7:32 - Duality
9:03 - Gunnora's Axe
10:07 - The Inquisitor
11:44 - The Heritage
12:48 - The Chaperone
14:14 - Lord of Wolves
15:15 - Tier List
Duality is bugged but also maybe I am the only one but I have a lot of kill lags with the slugs. After a shot it takes a sec or two till you see them killed. Anyone else with similar experiance?
Thought it was just me, netcode been shittier than usual
This happened to me. I kept looking at the game timer when it happened to check if I was lagging
every gun is like that recently💀
“Patent pending”. Loved that lol. Love these videos
Fortissimo belongs in A Tier AT LEAST (more like A+ Tier).
Fluted, Accurized, Threat, Opening and Range put it at 94 range, 96 handling and 67 aim assist.
It also feels way better than Nessa’s and Super Cluster due to higher AA, Threat Detector and the Suros sights.
Agreed. I have over 4,000 kills on mine.
Fluted, accurized, threat + opening handling MW
Yeah it can be very good. I will say nessa gets pretty identical stats so I’d probably say it’s fair to bump it up. For me it more came to the likely hood of actually getting that roll
The stars need to align to get that roll though. I've got cork, light mag, threat (or surplus) opening range mw.
Duality has been my favourite gun ever since I found out about it. It's so versatile since it can also be a pellet, yet it still can map people like Chaperone or Inquisitor with Opening shot.
I'm still learning slugs but your vids have been invaluable in learning to use them properly. Currently chasing gunnoras, I haven't gotten a single opening shot roll all week
I have a retrofuturist from last season with 3 perks in each slot and I run unrelenting destabilizing rounds. It's sick
loved your sniper vid, so glad when I saw this come out. I am not good with slugs but I like using them. I got lucky because I somehow had a pretty good roll of fortissimo and Gunnora's. I even have 3 different crafted heritages lol (and all the other ones)... but somehow super cluster just works the best for me. The sound it makes, the feel, and it just feels more consistent than other slugs i've used. I have an ALH/OS bonechiller that I rarely used because of handling, but now that titans get ophidians via exotic class item I've been messing with that again too.
Gunnora's is also one of the few rolls with ricochet rounds (if not the only), which lets you shoot around corners. That moves it above Inquisitor for me.
something about those sights on a lot of the legendary slug shotguns (gunnora's axe is my baby) are just so clean to the point where 9 times out of 10 i would rather use a legendary slug shotgun with the suros sights than either of the exotics even with a non exotic primary.
Lord of wolves can stay dog water. Omni invis + LOW was the most pussy meta to exist.
They really doing lord of wolves dirty. If they made it actually good without being broken I’d use that thing forever
Yeah fr. I wasn’t sure if it was just me or it was really bad but I hated using it lol
@@Awake_wl they always either make it op or garbage. Really wish they would come up with a. Middle ground :/. Love this weapon
Bakris buffs its damage. Do what you wish with this info
@@inflatedcheeto good to know thank you
Used no reprieve exactly once in pvp and that was during the crafting with a aggressive frame spread on it where every pellet dealt slug damage
9:55 brother you forgot to mention skulking wolfs, literally invis+dilation when you get a kill with low health, it happens all the times with any close quarters shotty fight, its very good in both 3s and 6s.
Would you value Freehand Grip or Targeting Adjuster on a hipfire heritage more?
Also, I remember reading that ADS and Hipfire have the same range on slugs... so if you have hipfire heritage, is ADSing still worth it over just sending it once the reticule is on their head and you are within that 8-9m range?
I don’t use the hipfire builds that often because I think it’s more of an mnk thing but basically you’d need to see if hipfire grip makes freehand irrelevant or if they stack together and make it better. If not then TA would be better.
Is gunnoras axe better than non adept inquesister
On mnk, only the sojourners tale and heritage feel good for me. Maybe because they both have iron sights that doesn’t wobble when u ads so I can see where I’m aiming at.
Yeah honestly a lot come down to feel for slugs. Everyone is gonna like a different one
Love this video, do other guns plz
Personally my favorite is Inquisitor I got 93 range with fragile and I love mapping people with it I’m almost at 1k kills on it too
I love Duality so much
I am one of the few Bonechiller enjoyers. I dont know what it is about it, but it's only one of 3 slugs I can hit shots with consistently, the other two being chappy and duality.
I think gunnoras and chaperone are best in slot. They both have something special besides just good stats like the other top tier slugs, that being skulking wolf and roadborne.
skulking wolf is super slept on a slug especially with invis or the new hunter boots
Nice content, but just a small QoL improvement when doing a ranking like this. Can you please have a image / name of the gun in one of the corners while discussing it?
Half way through your breakdowns, I found myself having to rewind to remind myself of what weapon you were talking about.
I really like bone chiller if you have a build that guarantees 2-3 stacks of surplus. I used to use it a lot with stasis hunter + 6th coyote and I would just not use my charged melee so I always had 2 stacks and most of the time I had either a dodge or a grenade up so 90% of the time I had 3 stacks. Kind of niche but it turns bone chiller into a monster.
Nessa's is actually pretty goated on controller, it has a bit more aim assist so I'm ok with 86 handling and slapping on a dex and targeting mod. Heritage and Nessa's are my top picks when it comes to slugs.
Duality is still bugged like you said. it can kill up to 9m instead of the 10.2m it used to have
Yeah that’s a weird thing to not fix lol
@@Awake_wlIt's been bugged since they decoupled zoom and range. I'm not sure Bungie even acknowledged it's bugged again. (It already had that no range on slug issue a couple of years ago but that got fixed).
The missing range shows quite often though when you're used to the non- bugged version. Especially quick clean ups with a body shot or a very ranged hs tend to not kill though they normally should. Love Duality but swapped to Inquisitor because of the bugged range.
Good one Like Always ❤
Duality was my baby back in peak 120 2 tap meta. But now i dread using it because that leaves me pairing it with a legendary hand cannon. To me they all feel the same and i get bored of using them real quick
i run fragile focus on my inquisitor, has always 100 range and 100 handeling but i speced into stability and i basically dont get flinched
I am so bad with slugs on mnk, this vid makes me wonder if I should switch to controller
I have a solid gunnoras axe but I don’t have a hip fire one. I did not think of that. I HAVE TO GET ONE OF THOSE
Yeah it’s pretty good!
Компаньон ко всему вышесказанному имеет облегчённую раму, то есть увеличивает скорость спринта и дает +20 к мобильности. SSS TIER.
Love Good bone structure BC I still have my OG from way back when. But there's only two worth using. Inquisitor and chappy.
Heritage has so much aim assist by itself that every bullet does opening shot.
Lol I suck with Duality too. Chaperone feels like the head hitbox is everything except there feet so I use that if I use a slug lol. Every now and then tho you play against a guy who mastered Duality and def a force in the right hands but would take awhile to master for sure.
Heritage to me is the best in game
It’s just pure magic and I was gifted with THE god roll and I don’t do raids much
Ended up deleting it when I got the crafted version kinda sad cuz my kills are gone and ever since the ammo changes using special in general is kinda not worth it
Side arm/smg and pulse seem to be the move these days or just forerunner 🙄
Next slug better get discord opening
dead man’s tale and gunnoras axe is disgusting
If you use ophidians then high aim assist slugs become a lot better such as Bonchiller, Blasphemer with hip fire grip and opening shot has the best aim assist + max range however heritage will still be better ads while still being very good hipfire
No Reprieve can one shot to the body with 5x Swashbuckler active, id say thats really good with meele builds
Yeah few of them get swash as well but yeah for that one melee build the only way I feel
Love my Hipfire Opening shot FILO
Yeah some ppl really like it. You mnk or controller?
@@Awake_wl MnK, that might explain it
@@juhaojanpaa haha yeah I’m not sure why but all of the players I know that really like it are usually mnk. Something about it on controller just didn’t work for me lol
I love hipfire grip
I like my inquisitor it's not perfect but it works for me I got pulse monitor and fragile focus I got almost 90 range
If you want to try I have a 10/10 roll hipfire grip opening shot roll ganaoras axe.
I legit just used 3 Deepsights on No Reprieve….. & it’s RARE to get to crafted cause you can no longer get red borders for so no it’s not actually craftable atm
It’s craftable still I had to get one from xur for the video to add a harmonizer actually
"that has not been sunset" like, obtainable right?
If we could do an SMG tier list🙏🏻🙏🏻
Yeah I can try to work on one. I just have to use a lot more of them because it’s actually very difficult to rank all of the middle tiers in these haha
@@Awake_wl I personally think RPM of smgs is a big factor. Like 720s like immortal used to feel amazing but now they don't, whereas now 600s feel incredible especially with kill clip and target lock respectively. Also 900s do melt really fast but they lack that range.
Hmm yeah I’ll have to research it and try to get access to all of them. Obviously I know the top ones but once you get to like C and B tier it’s pretty hard. I’m planning on putting tier lists out over time about everything because I love watching tier lists myself and everyone else seems to like them as well so it’s pretty fun lol
I was looking in my vault two days ago for a slug shotty and the only fortissimo I had was the god roll 🤣
I ve always assumed slug shotguns are not good for pve, am I wrong ?
Which ever one has off hand strike…that will be the one…
Timestamps would be nice
There are no reason to run anything except chaperone unless you have to run rose
I think this guy forgets that fusion rifles exist
I like Harmony slugs... With Radiant/some other damage boost Harmony slugs will one tap in the body
Swashbuckler after melee does as well!
I will never give up first in last out till the day I die
Roadborn stays active while swapping weapons after a final blow…
Correct👍
me with my 100 range 100 handling gunnoras (it has 23 aim assist)
lord of wolves lmao
Let’s gooo
Hahah dog water with no reprieve I’d rather use the no reprieve
I really tried to use no reprieve but its truly an awful gun. I couldn't save it no matter what.
lol yeah it’s so bad I’m not gonna lie 😂
I hate duality. Can’t get a good feel for it at all
Yeah me neither tbh I’m not a fan but it is pretty good if you get it down
sojourners tale way too low, perfect perk combo and very sleek gun model
slideshot/snap/MT is not the god roll for heritage lmfao. put Offhand + Hipfire grip and enhance them both. with offhand proc'd you have ***fourteen meters*** of range with insane bullet magnetism. it outranges every other option by a mile while also providing the benefits of not having to ads for a precise shot. crafted hipfire heritage is, in my opinion, the best slug in the game, bar none.
I mean that’s great and all if you have ammo for sure
for qp maybe idk why youd go for a kill chaining roll for 3s
Yeah I pointed out offhand strike but the current ammo situation hurts it pretty bad. Other issue for me at least is that hipfire in general is better on mnk than controller so a lot of controller players would just rather use chaperone at that point imo
@@Awake_wl Thats been my experience with heritage. Even on mnk, i found myself scoping in most of the time. Offhand def nasty but with the current ammo economy, i could rarely get more than a double
Swash heritage is eating good in this ammo system. One melee kill the a one hit body shot any resilience
slugs are more for controller players....its really easy to get a one hit on controller....aim assist is king in this game
Slugs are one of the few that are decent on both inputs
Good one Like Always ❤