Prismatic is BROKEN!! Subclass TIER LIST for the Final Shape PvP
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- Опубліковано 16 жов 2024
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Ok so apparently Behemoth might not be bugged? If it’s bugged I think it will be good once it’s fixed. The idea behind my ranking is that it’s basically the prismatic lance build plus the slide so that seems pretty good to me if you can make the movement work. But apparently it’s not working correctly or something. So if you want to bump it down that makes sense to me.
Ok apparently it might just be working as intended if so than nah that class trash rip lol
@@Awake_wl they need to get rid of the stupid cooldown
This is literally the video i was searching for this morning and couldn't find. Perfect timing!
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I’m sorry but as a Titan main in no way, shape, or form is behemoth stronger than arc strider or voidwalker. Cryoclasm is literally broken right now (as in not functioning properly post TFS) and top players that main Behemoth like Nicho can attest to this. I can understand the argument for Arcstrider in slow modes trials, but in any other playlist Storm’s Edge is a certified bucket in kill secure even shutting down most supers. Broodweaver is not weaker than Beserker or Sunbreaker in terms of laying pressure in fights and disengaging going full invul only being hard countered by the 3 people that main Witherhoard. I’d even go as far to say that Striker is stronger than Beserker in its state as the top Beserker loadouts aren’t viable in competitive, but weak to Sunbreaker purely because it does what Thundercrash’s goal is which is destroy Well and Wards with Burning Maul.
behemoth died 4 years ago and 100% should be last on this list.
@@isiahmoore9363 I wouldn’t go that far, I’d say in terms of bottom tier it’s a close tie between Sunbreaker and Stormcaller
When working properly I think it’s better than those below, on mnk at least. Just having barricades in itself make titans stronger than the other classes even if there’s nothing unique or flashy or fun about the class. I personally would take a titan with nothing except a super and a barricade over anything broodweaver has to offer even if that’s boring. Broodweaver is also countered by conditional and void titan. Although I will say it tanks the solar conditional shot but not the stasis one
I think one of the biggest things against behemoth(as a pteviously behemoth titan main) is without crypclasm working, the shit is ass and the other part I'd use being diamond lances, prismatic literally does it better, especially when using knockout, and that hurts to say, also, the seasonal mod helping glaciers last season was so nice and without it I feel I have to use coldsnaps cuz I don't wanna go back and coldsnaps can just he inconsistent, so now with the prismatic pulse made option, I'd rather just use prismatic😅, but it hurts my soul to see movement options die😢
@@gaphoneyottv593 yeah I can agree with that, prismatic does do most of I better really. I was mostly just going off of the movement options assuming it’s all working properly I also weight having a titan barricade heavier than most ppl just because of how strong they can be
All the best behemoth players have already made videos discussing why it’s been nerfed in PvP. I’d refer to manstrual or Nicho for the opinions on the Matter.
I agree either way you about prismatic titan. It’s certainly underrated. If people learn to use the shiver strike effectively it’s a free kill against ppl without shotty. There is also movement tech with the diamond lance that behemoth mains have been abusing for a while. It’s basically the best parts of behemoth plus the best aspect in the game IMO - knockout for its latency abusing abilities.
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Yeah I was told it was bugged but if it’s actually just nerfed then yeah it’s replaced by prismatic completely
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Another thing with void warlock you never mentioned or I guess prismatic now too with a void super, is elemental cap basically turns any gun into god tier with ophidians for handling and reload and e cap plus 20 stability lol. That’s honestly the main reason I play it when I do.
There is a reason to run arc warlock over prismatic warlock... at least one that I can think of. so... prismatic warlock gets lightning surge, and you can get an arc soul by using getaway artist... and that´s really good.
but if you coordinate with a team, you can use the arc soul aspect only found on arc warlock, to create a rift that gives everyone an arc soul, not just yourself... the cool interaction everyone seems to forget is that if you´re amplified the arc soul becomes supercharged just like with getaway artist... however.. you don´t necesarily need getaway to get the arc soul supercharged. you can use an ascension hunter to give everyone on the team amplified, and since you all have an arc soul, you all get a super charged arc soul and you could use some other exotic with this... for instance if you use boots of the asssembler lumina you can give everyone on the team a damage boost on top of the arcsoul when you create noble rounds from the rift. you can also use another exotic instead of getaway artist, or boots of the assembler, like the stag, though I recomend boots of the assembler so you get a full team with an arc soul and a damage boost. I recomend getting a titan with bastion so everyone also moves with an overshield. on top of the arc soul. that way the whole team starts with a damage boost and arc soul supercharged, and an overshield.. you should win every primary engagement as long as you play together. you can use other similar combos in the game where you cordinate with a team for stronger effects... like, omnioculus rift rat king team with a void overshield titan, and a ¨diver¨ someone running lightning surge, peregrine strike, some strong hit while moving, maybe a gemini jester hunter who dodges next to the enemy team and disorients. you basically make plans combining effects for strong synergies. another interesting one could be something like a ¨fort¨ stag warlock with healing rift and arcsoul, loreley splendor titan, or bastion titan, and renewal grasp hunter with touch of winter. you could also try to put this at a point to hold it for instance. and maybe swap one member for say, a healing turret warlock the advantage of that one is the healing whilst moving, though the best for that is still lumina another thing you could do, is wait for a push, and say, if you use renewal grasp, you could use a glaive take advantage of the slow for easy hits, and charge the blade´s shield kind of us it as an ambush. there is some other combos. like arcsouls with... remember how I said you need a diver? so you can do, void overshield bastion, enter the weave with a warlcok, and omnioculus invis, and then ambush with a bunch of threadlings and damage resistance. from the void overshield. just some cool combos to use. a lot of teams use similar things... there are other teams though, for instance...like a ¨trapper´¨ team. a warlock with osmiomancy, using divinity ...could also use bleackwatcher, another member with cloudstrike or hawkmoon, or no time to explain, to combo. preferably revenant revenant or prismatic you could do something like smoke and duskfield, or, the other option, shuriken and coldsnap and you need someone who will increase the team´s distance for long enough, so a stag warlock, or another osmiomancy warlock, the plan is to try and stack bleak watcher turrets. and have more than one way to freeze on the team for easy crits. you could also use something like aeger´s scepter, or another freeze weapon. the idea is to have a team that applies too many slow stacks stasis is stronger when everyone uses it due to the slows stacking. the plan is simply to guarantee freezing, and debuff with divinity for cloudstike- hawkmoon, or easy crits in general. you take targets one by one. and freeze to take someone off the fight, I recomend having a stag simply so that the team has good survivavility while stacking the slows. an option could be something like a bastion titan to block some damage on the team fight you could try the citan barricade to shoot through with divinity. the point is to try to find things that synergize well together, as a team. some synergies are stronger than others. for example, you could do gyrfalcon lemonarche with a lumina buff for a one shot. (lumina warlock tends to be good in almost any composition. that requires a bit more damage to up it´s dps.) I think my favourite combo is probably the all rounder, an arcsoul for the whole team, a void overshield, and a damage boost... as long as the fight is primary on primary you should win... assuming you don´t get frozen by a trapper comp or something like that, each comp has it´s strengths, certain combos beat others, for instance the diver formation is good for ¨breaking¨ and is flexible, trapper is good on isolated targets and taking people of the fight. fort is good for holding points. naturally synergizes well with stuff like well of radiance, or bubble. so basically you make comps, to either break in-dive, defend- outsustain, or trap. kind of like a hero shooter. Dive tends to beat defend, trap tends to beat dive, defend tends to beat trap... I think, when I imagine what would happen between an engagement of each type of team... majority of teams are a blend of the three, and most teams are essentially more like ¨individual players¨ rather than a cohesive team... not everything synergizes well with everything else certain things are universal though... for instance, remeber the arcsoul team I mentioned... it gets beat by someone running riskrunner, and a bit of defense, like... say... an overshield. well anyway I talked too much :v
You are right about invis, it’s strong and I don’t see to much of it anymore
Because he's right about the other part too, it's not actually that fun to play.
@@pencilswordfishyeah its really boring
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I love behemoth but how is Striker better then behemoth? U can do the melee ability so fast u can punch them afterwards
Behemoth was and always will be dead last in terms of titan subclasses.
Shiver strike is definitely inconsistent given that it's the only melee that requires you to let go before you hit someone in order for it to work right. Glacial Quake, despite the recent buff, isn't the greatest roaming super, especially now that you no longer get DR from Crystals.
The cryoclasm slide is currently bugged from what I am hearing, or at least not functioning correctly.
You now have a cooldown on shard gen.
Meanwhile Striker has T. Crash which is enough said, its shoulder charge is still good for hitting multiple players + dunes. Knockout even in its current state still is a good pvp aspect. Striker can get two jolt nades, which can absolutely delete someone if properly thrown.
This is coming from someone who religiously plays behemoth in pvp, it's underpowered compares to other subclasses.
As a titan main Ive been pretty unsatisfied with subclasses lately. You pretty much have void, stasis and prismatic, and they all have some problems. Void is boring and stasis feels awful on controller as it doesnt have much better movement than whats availible on hunters or warlocks on better subclasses. Prismatic is okay, but its objectively worse than the other two prismatic subclasses.
Personally, I guess I don't notice prismatic hunter winning me gunfights any more than, like, Void or Solar. I feel like, at least for me, it's kinda hard to notice exactly when radar manipulation is working, and when it's just the opponent not being very good. It's ANNOYING to fight against, for sure. But like, that's all I kinda feel like it is: annoying. It's nowhere NEAR what og Stasis hunter was at launch, for example. Like, yeah, people are spamming smoke bombs, swarm nades, and the whole strand clone nonsense. But those things don't really "kill" you. Whereas prismatic warlock, for example, getting three blink uppercuts that do hilarious damage, stasis turrets, those things absolutely kill you or directly make you vulnerable to getting picked. Titans have juggernaut, shoulder charge, etc.
I'm not saying prismatic Hunter isn't overtuned, cause it most certainly is. It's exposing stuff that's always been OP about hunters but was never seen to such a degree, like gambler's dodge giving a full melee charge, threadling spam. The new super is definitely freaking outrageous. It feels mostly unkillable, and the fact you can get it faster than a golden gun, dawnblade, hammers is dumb. However, I don't necessarily feel like prismatic hunter is the most LETHAL. It's just the most DISRUPTIVE.
Everything looks good. But coming from a Titan main, Striker (arc Titan) should be bottom A or top of B .
Yeah striker is still insane in comp and 6s
mostly agree, few changes from my experience. prismatic hunter on nr 1 - prismatic warlock 1tier lower . and strand warlock needs a trash tier for its own
Do u think i can. Be good won controller with 4 paddles
Good point, i actually agree that all subclasses rn were just garbage other than solar lock or idk void hunter? Ye i do not have d2 final shape and i definetely understand how all the buffs and nerfs were just about making prismatic the best of the best bruh, 1 example is the 1 shot 1 kill grapple melee on hunter lmao.
I honestly think warlock is way to based on frame rate and its getting painful on Xbox, you literally are slowed down and some abilities are also affected by it (coldsnaps freeze is failing so much and the can get stuck in the ground but that’s a different issue)
Are u on padlles
Kinda blew my mind when I saw all the nerfs to arc titan in the final shape patch
Yeah I don’t really get it either
The stasis Titan slide was a HUGE nerf. That class is dead. Strand warlock is honestly pretty strong.
The slide isnt working properly at this moment but it’s supposed to be a buff once it works
Strand warlock underrated
lowkey broken for 3s
I like playing it and there’s definitely ways to make it work but when you put them on paper for a list it’s definitely in that bottom tier imo. Maybe if it had a good super but I think it might be the worst super in the game other than like tether maybe
I would agree until I use Blink on Prismatic Warlock, which makes it the best subclass for me. There are just so many ways you can be absolute bullshit with it that it can’t be anything other than S.
Maybe once they nerf some things I could move it up but unfortunately In this meta I’d rather have 12 clones and 10 grenades than blink
Strand Hunter and void Hunter are still meta these days. For warlock, Solar warlock and Stasis Warlock is meta. For Titan, stasis titan and Void titan are meta. Sure Arc titan is good but I barley like Stasis Titan more
Arc Hunter has disappointed me
Stasis Warlock is completely irrelevant in this meta imo, clones hard counter coldsnaps. If anything, I guess I'd go the turret route like Cammycakes
Yeah it’s pretty decent against the solar turret spam but yeah not great w the clones
Out of everything, prismatic hunter is so annoying to play against and requires no skill. needs immediate nerf tbh
how are they gonna nerf it though? it’s nothing new just abilities that already exist on other subclasses.
I feel when you have the clone on it should make your dodge cooldown way longer
@Awake_wl They definitely should nerf swarm grenades a bit too. They're already pretty strong and are stupid combined with smokes
Annoying but Not OP ore anything.
@@Awake_wlmy main issue is that it pings the radar alongside the smoke . The cooldown itself is fine
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The absolute hottest take is saying behemoth is A tier above goldy hunter……cammy made a huge in depth vid explaining y the new slide is actual trash and I aggree it bugs out and doesnt even work if u spam slide and its lesss intuitive to do multiple slides cuz ur waiting on an arbitrary 4 second cooldown instead of just sprinting the same time ut takes to shoulder charge which is build into every titans dna at this point. New slide chages r so bad. The nuetral game just doesnt have anything that can chunk damamge or damge really just base weak stasis grenades. Id say easily C-B MAX theres no way this makes it A. Everything else I basically agree on tho so yeah 😂😂. Like I WANT (in a lustful way) for behemoth to be good in crucible I have tryed again and again but its 1000000% cope if one thinks this is better than B honestly its actually the bottom tier tbh there no reason and nothing going for it cept for the shiver strike but oh wait prismatic does it better imo. It just takes to much shite to get going and nothing intuitive to damge with n shite. Just a frustrating class to play. 😂
I just assumed it was a bug that will be fixed. If it’s working as intended than yeah prismatic pretty much replaces it
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BEHEMOTH IS THE BEST
Needle storm is the worse super in the game by far
Bro your on crack
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As a Warlock main, it sucks playing Trials. All I see is Hunters. They are broken for pvp!