That is so deeply cathartic for me to hear: hearing such a horrible, egotistical jerk have nothing to say and literally running out crying like a toddler because people aren't letting him get away with this unpleasantness.
I got to imagine judges are very used to hearing people blatantly incriminating themselves. I'd like to think the judge leaned in with curiosity and answered the question with a sincere "Sure, go ahead."
I'm assuming the fact that Cage was allowed to run out of the court room, and that this guy said "I'm not under oath" means this is essentially a civil case or whatever the equivalent is in France. None of that would fly in a criminal court.
In your guys' playthrough of Detroit, there was one moment where Pat says "I'd love to find out that one of the story elements was just David saying "I hate my dad" like something pathetic like that." I could believe it.
That old podcast segment where they talked about how Cage writes plots (everything good, meaning everything Cage likes, is on the same side, while everything bad, meaning everything Cage dislikes or fears, is on the other side, all working together) remains one of the only things that can make me laugh every time I listen to it. When Woolie gets to "Old... foreign chinese men?!" I die.
This is legitimately how a lot of people function tho. Well, ‘function’ may be a strong word, but… I don’t want to get into Barack Obama’s policies rn but I remember people legitimately calling him a gay Muslim Satan-worshiping atheist, because to those people, all of those words just mean ‘nuh-uh! >:(‘ Zero concept in their heads that some of those factions might be conflicting. They all just ‘people who hate Good Things.’ Magically on the same team.
The surprising part is how unsurprising it is, since all the evidence we had, until relatively recently, for his shittiness was just the writing in his games and his enormous ego. I don't think he was known for any sort of scandal until this workplace stuff started coming out and Quantic Dreams collectively decided to shoot themselves in the foot in court.
It's almost as if Hideo Kojima incorporated real-world issues into his works, issues that have existed since the Cold War and arguably as far back as the 1920s and now those same issues have naturally progressed on their own. Man, how wild, what a prophet.
hideo kojima has the opposite of Pat's 「Crazy Talk」 where instead of things he thinks are true retroactively becoming false, things he thinks are fiction become reality in the future
"Hello everyone, this is Hideo Kojima. I am proud to announce the title of my next video game: 'Hideo Kojima gets a million dollars and also solves world hunger'. I hope you are all looking forward to this next evolution in Strand type video games."
@@infiniteFERN funniest part of his apology was that he didn't/couldn't say what he was apologizing for, just that he was sorry and made mistakes... So they didn't except it as honest.
The article seems like the smoking gun that proves that despite people's best effort to disprove otherwise David Cage was acting, as TBF so often proclaimed, with malice not stupidity. Which changes the context to a vast amount of his creations.
I think more than anything this proves how no matter how hard they might try to hide it, a creator's slime will always leak through to their content. In the words of RLM, you may not notice it, but your brain does
@JosiexJosie I mean look at Pat, Woolie and Matt all buying these games and playing them. So what if they critiqued it? They fueled this just as much. They still gave Quantic Dream their money which other people also did because they wanted to see how bad it was.
@Ian Nordin Yeah this logic doesn't really work for everything. By this logic, ever person who makes slasher films or horror movies should be locked up for being psychopaths for creating the things they do. When usually they are actually rather chill people IRL. EDIT: Or hell! Look at Ruroni Kenshin's author having actual CP, not loli or shota stuff ACTUAL real life CP. What about his work would suggest he would be into that? It's just with Cage... Like it wasn't just a little bit. Like just look at how he handled the "Detroit: Become Human isn't about civil rights and slavery" hard cut to androids standing in the back of the bus or then you have another show of it with Ellen Page (before she became a he and Elliot Page) fucking sued him for the leaks of those nude models of her and like Pat said about the interview. Like you don't need to say its the work when the character of the man was known. Not helped by the fact that studio management also had things changed so the average person who doesn't look in-depth can't tell what's the dudes work or the studio stuff. Hell, most people probably don't even know who this guy actually is cause most people don't know the name of the people who create the thing they watch or read. Then like what Pat ALSO said again, look how many times he got away with this and Sony just hiring him to keep making games and people buying it. To quote Pat from another video: "Why Madden 70 dollar?" Most people are just not in-depth with this stuff.
@@RavenCloak13 horror movies are more cheap than other movies, that's why it gets made so frequently. David Cage isn't making anything because it's cheaper, it's because that's where he goes. Also, there's a degree of excess even in genres that leave the creator's mark, so while it's foolish to psychoanalysis off the genre of work, you can definitely see authorial vision and focus within a work.
Battlefield 2042 is a prequel to 2142 isn't it? Climatological disaster and an ensuing refugee crisis was explicitly a part of that game's lore. Not that EA gives a fuck about canon or continuity in their games, but some people at Dice probably do.
Until they explicitly say so, then no. Until it is confirmed that this is some form of “prequel” (any game that takes place before 2142 is technically a prequel anyway) then no, the “it’s not political” statement is merely just their attempt at avoiding at offending the Karen’s like they did with BF5
@@manticorephoenix -"Until it is confirmed that this is some form of 'prequel'" ua-cam.com/video/71VT6oTto1g/v-deo.html -"any game that takes place before 2142 is technically a prequel"
@@KAPTAINmORGANnWo4eva I played 2142 when I was a kid. I don't recall political refugees running around any of the maps, nor were they mentioned in game. It may have been mentioned in the manual, but it was never highlighted in the game, because, you know, it doesn't matter. Flash forward to now. Given what they did with Battlefield 5 (and the state of game devs and game journalism in general) I wouldn't put it past them to be trying to make a "point" by pushing some agenda in he background. Either that or they are generating fake outrage for a game they don't think will do well.
@@baronvonslambert None of that was IN GAME which was the point. Media is NOT art and it is not inherently political. I write Novels for a living. Readers don't want people lecturing to them about current events. They know how to think and feel about current events, the fact that you believe they need to be reminded of "important events" that are happening says a lot about how you treat people. Now, take your marxist bullshit and kindly fuck off =)
Think you guys misinterpreted Kojima's comments a bit. When he talked about the pandemic and 9/11, he was specifically referring to them as paradigm shifts in the global zeitgeist, leading to massive changes in how people think and act - which in turn means he has to reevaluate how he makes games, or what he wants to say in them. It's no more a sign of a god complex than when Yoko Taro said 9/11 made him want to write about how subjectivity can cause anyone to believe themselves righteous, which led to Nier.
i thought you were supposed to sympathize with the androids in blade runner. wasn't that basically the whole point of roy telling decker he's "seen things you people wouldn't believe"?
A reminder that in David Cage’s first game the villain is a demon who tricked you into playing the game… so basically just David Cage. Edit: ok I get the context behind Woolie talking about not existing, what the Hell is the era of No Pat?
Little did we know, all the bad, downright fucked morality and bizarre implications in David's games was him charging his problematic behaviour AOE attack for this court appearance. I haven't seen such a blatant public self-own like this since Trapt's social media oopsies.
"What if Black people were robots". I just realised how fucking brilliant this is, and its brilliancy is entirely on accident, I bet. The word "robot" is halfway between "rob" - meaning "slave"; and "robotnik" - meaning "employee". A person who is legally a person - i.e. not property - but also not fully free. It's a brilliant allegory and I'm 100% sure David Cage had no idea.
Robots as slave allegories can be traced all the way back to Rossum's Universal Robots, which coined the term "robot". Cage thought he was breaking new ground by telling the exact same story as the very first work of robot fiction.
@@blackheartzerotheundergrou3225 Yes, but I suspect SEGA came up with it from "robot", without realising it's a real word. Kind of like a transport agency calling their new bus "Bussy". The real word has nothing to do with robots. Or at least not in the sense of a man making robots.
This makes the ending of Detroit where kamski is funding the robot revolution, so he could make more money by "solving it" literally just being "soros bucks" thing makes more sense now.
@@The5lacker It was a few missions before that. He was supposed to sneak past a android security guard and in the process befriend him. Instead Woolie's cowardice got the better of him and the security guard wasn't there to save him.
"Judge me by my work and the friends I made along the way, please. I remember this one time I accidentally modeled my good friend Ellen Page's no no bits for my game and then she was all 'my no nudity clause!' and I was all 'what?' and she was all 'see you in court!' and I was all 'no way' and we just laughed and laughed about it together. Oh man, good times." -David Cage
@@ElecTrishian924 At the time of the court proceedings years ago Elliot was still Ellen Page. Plus like the other dude said, David Cage is the exact type of person who would dead name someone.
@@habadasheryjones Yeah, fair. I personally would have said something like "my good friend *dead name* Page" because it strikes me as kind of a grey area what language you should use when you're ascribing statements to someone who would *definitely* dead name and misgender someone. I might be overthinking it though and I see what you're going for
I didn't know about Quantic Dream. By the time Pat said Cage ran away crying I could not stop laughing and nearly crying. Bro I'm at a library, I had to step out. Oh my lord.
"Non-political refugees" Immigrants. The word they were looking for is immigrants, but since they specifically used refugees A FUNDAMENTALLY political word by definition, they don't get to play the 'not political' card. Yet they keep trying and it's fucking infuriating.
@@Neocyberman1 Fleeing from another country due to climate change would, by definition, make you a refugee. Immigration isn't inherently political. Whether it becomes political depends on the circumstances, and we have specific names for those circumstances, for instance, refugees.
Who would have thought that the guy who wrote/directed a whole bunch of racist, sexist, homophobic things would turn out to be racist, sexist, and homophobic?
Out of all the creepy stuff in Beyond and Omikron, the fact that the reporter in Heavy Rain was introduced in a dream sequence where you run around in your underwear and get caught by intruders is the most baffling thing to me. It's like he wrote that scene first and had no where to put it so he just made it a dream that had no effect on the plot.
@@Kango234 in retrospect everybody was kinda sleeping on the fact that the only black guy in Heavy Rain was introduced with the line "Ey cracka, whatchu doin' in there!?"
If you remember, every single thing in Detroit that was fun or interesting, David *ACTIVELY* fought against its inclusion. I have a strong suspicion it’s the head of the Snake on this one… if I am proven wrong in the future, then that’s both my bad and pathetic.
I know a guy who’s *very* into Battlefield. If he’s a standard metric of the fan base they literally couldn’t care less about anything besides the guns the guys were using in the trailer and how excited they are for the number to go up in multiplayer
I’m very excited for this game, this is one of those times you can ignore Reddit, no actual Battlefield player is offended over things like this, no actual Battlefield player was offended at the idea of playing a female soldier in Battlefield 5, the things that offend Battlefield players is when the game is broken and receives no support
@@manticorephoenix the "female soldiers in WWII" thing was more of a knock by history buffs for being "historically inaccurate". but ultimately you're right the average battlefield and/or CoD player isn't going to care too much about political commentary no matter how on the nose it is since they're never going to touch the singleplayer campaign where said commentary is present.
@@xsoultillerx Also plenty of people talking about how you could have made a game about actual, historical women who were involved in the conflict in various ways, rather than inserting original characters into roles that might not make sense, but those kinds of posts didn't bring in the controversy clicks, and thus got little-to-no spotlight.
Looking back it’s kind of ironic how Elliot Page’s character Jodie Holmes in Beyond: Two Souls was basically an edgier version of Klaus from Umbrella Academy. Complete with a ghost buddy who turns out to be their dead sibling.
I wonder if Elliot Page coming out has anything to do with David Cage’s apparent newfound emotional instability. I know that if I was a complete shitheel who made an entire game creeping on a Hollywood star, and then that star came out as trans, I would probably begin to come apart at the seems. Perhaps by shouting and running out of the courtroom in the defamation trial that MY COMPANY FILED. LUCKLY I am neither a shitheel (I hope) nor did I make a creepy game that caused Elliot Page to sue me. Yet.
That’s probably part of it, but I think Cage is also seeing the world chasing up with his true self, being openly critical and louder about it, and his ego can’t take it. That one tweet he made about Detroit being the first nonviolent video game, and the internet just had a field day in the replies, mocking and slamming him left and right.
Saying that a work isn't political is horrifying because it means the developers have nothing to say about the man-made end of the world in their piece of art. Insane!
To be honest I see it like Disaster Day of Crisis, or military themed pornography. Don't think they have an obligation or end up to say much about the climate or military.
@@pvtferret5158 @Pvt Ferret Entertain us by doing what? What's the point in telling a story so deeply inspired by the real breaking apart of the modern world if there's just nothing to say? Why write a story this way, why create the models and texture them if you're going to say "draw no conclusions from the throngs of people immiserated and wandering through our military shooter who we have intentionally put there" You might as well have just said "we factory farmed this one out and put a coat of global warming paint on it" And where's all this western stuff coming from? You've going to need to explain a little here.
@@Neocyberman1 Because escapism is a thing? Why would you even want your real world propblems to follow you into what should be a break from regular life, why do people insist on on grabbing your head by the hair and slamming it into problems you can't solve, all of it is just worthless activism by corporate entities and idiot Danger-hair blobs that couldn't care less about these things.
He doesn’t deserve the benefit of the doubt, but I want to make it known anyway. Detroit isn’t necessarily “I want to write about civil rights, but nobody cares about minorities so I’ll use white ppl”. If it was that I don’t think they would have used so many black human characters. It seems more likely they wanted it to be about civil rights, but thought they where really clever in how it has nothing to do with skin color, even though it arguably is still about race. And of course as Mothers basement pointed out all the talks about creationism are literally true. They could have salvaged that if the whole RA9 shit wasn’t an unexplored red herring
His whole career could just be summed up with him having only a surface level understanding of what he is writing about and stealing stuff from Hollywood without understanding why any of it works. The one thing that's probably in David Cage's favor is that he knows what stuff is the "good stuff" to steal. Detroit is probably the best game they have made, and feels like the one where they decided, finally, to steal some things from real life instead of grabbing everything straight from IMDB's Top Rated Movies list. Detroit is actually very arguably not about race. He brings up the topic of race through imagery, but he doesn't actually address race. Imagery from the Civil Rights Movement, USA history of black slavery, BLM movement, and the Holocaust, are just set dressing to gussy up a shallow story because he knows these topics mean something to other people. In fact, he's set up his world in exactly the way that would undercut any attempts to address racism, by making his marginalized group only questionably human. It's very much "racism" written by someone who does not understand racism at all.
@@jjj7790 It’s not clear how many civil rights allegories you need to steal before your story becomes about civil rights, despite your intentions. Detroit tries to do a lot of different things and so I’m not sure what the main theme even is. All I know is what imagery, and philosophies Cage is using. Everything outside of Conners story is just plain stupid. I don’t even like mothers basement but he broke down what the game does perfectly.
@@Agent_Cobalt My take just comes from me thinking about how most of the Civil Rights Era and BLM imagery stuff is shoved into Markus's section, but what you actually do in his section is "wake up the sheeple to rebel against the government" stuff that is actually kind of incongruous to that. Outside of the short sections with his owner and his owner's son, he doesn't really have any significant interactions with a human who isn't an active enemy combatant. If the story was about discrimination, you'd think it would actually have scenes addressing discrimination through android&human interaction, but instead the actual content of the Markus story is action movie segments and drama with other androids. So I guess my thing is that the writing seems to understand Civil Rights so poorly that for me it might as well not be about it at all. Connors segment is pretty much the best because of Hank. Through Hank as a human proxy they can address the discrimination against androids and the humanity of androids. Also because Hank is a depressed bastard they can tie Connor becoming more human with him losing his suicidal thoughts. The other storylines basically miss all of that by having them not interact consistently with a human character, aka that Alice twist shit.
@@jjj7790 Isn't all of that bullshit though? Because you find out from that one ending with Conner that none of androids really had free will and it was just a set up from the android company to achieve ????? something?
the thing about kojima is that when you actually try to understand politics instead of avoiding it, truly understand the forces of imperialism, capitalism, and bigotry at play, the future becomes easier to see coming
Game: * Depicts future as utopian society * "Pshh. Really? That'd never happen!" Game: * Depicts future as dystopian hellscape * "Yeah okay that makes sense. Mhm, yep I can see that."
I hate to say it but I feel like even if they got rid of Cage Quantic would probably make games of very similar quality since those games do well and it’s what’s expected of them.
Ever since Star Wars Eclipse, anti-SJW’s like Geeks and Gamers, TheQuartering, Nerdrotic, RK Outposr, Critical Drinker, etc have been defending David Cage. Makes sense cause he acts like them: Cowardly, sexist, racist, pretentious, thinks he’s better than everyone and treats people like shit.
In defense of the Ubisoft statement, I THINK I know what that dev or PR guy in the interview was trying to say. He was saying FC6 wasn't political in the same way a lot of gamers say they don't want politics in their videogames. Which is to say that it has nothing to do with western progressivism. It's not that there's no politics, it's that the politics don't have a leftist stance. It's why this conversation is so hard to have because the 2 sides have an entirely different conception of what they're talking about. It's why "woke shit" has 2 different definitions on the left and right. For the left it's a very specific niche subset of leftist politics, for the right it's ANYTHING progressive, and that simply having a gay or black person in a videogame can qualify as "woke shit" (unless a Japanese dev did it, then it's said that the intention is pure because it's not tainted by western influence, but if said Japanese dev is leftist, then it's "pozzed" and proof that Japan is declining). So if this dev is saying "it's not political" and he genuinely means that, I think he means it's just not leftist and the person interviewing them is operating on a different wavelength than them.
Only a specific niche subset of the right see anything "progressive" as "woke shit." That specific subset also tends to think the entire left is the niche subset you mentioned. But I will agree that a big problem in the talk of "politics in (medium)" is differing definitions. For example, I don't see an environmentalist message as inherently political unless it's either suggesting some specific course of action, (i.e. a POLICY) or crosses over into shouting "the end is nigh! Repent sinners!" at the audience, while I have a friend who believes that everything is political in one way or another even if you're not consciously trying to make a political point with your work. Another problem is that die-hards on either side tend to take a stance of "Keep YOUR politics, specifically, out of our (medium)" even if they don't say those exact words. They'll happily lap up anything that agrees with their beliefs already, regardless of quality, and rail on things that either support the other side's talking points, or just don't toe the line closely enough. And further compounding the issue is that sometimes criticisms of how the message is handled is taken as criticism of and/or disagreement with the message itself, and one person ends up assuming the other person is telling them to "keep out politics" when they're really saying that the message could have been more convincing if you did X.
@@FrozenOver0 >That specific subset also tends to think the entire left is the niche subset you mentioned. Let's be fair, this goes both ways. There's also a specific subset of the left that thinks anyone to the right of Stalin is a racist fascist homophobe. They're both culture warriors, that's the problem. Neither side wants to hear what the other says and both sides are very loud.
@@SeruraRenge11 Yeah, that's pretty much the point I was driving it, I just didn't mention the other side of it in my post because you'd already mentioned it in yous.
@@SeruraRenge11 there's a hard line and Trumpian right crossed it and tainted it. Now you can't give an inch because the miles and miles have been taken
@@xsoultillerx Yep. Both him and Hanks actor adlibbed a good chunk of their lines despite Cage being pissy about it. Which explains why their portions of the game were so good.
It makes me wonder if the people at Dice want to make some sort of commentary, but EA marketing is trying to deemphasize it so as to not scare anyone away.
BF2142's lore had the whole climate apocalypse and refugee crisis as a backdrop. It wasnt a commentary in that game, either, literally just a backdrop.
@@cyberninjazero5659 Kazuya was cool too, but yeah, let's face it, Metroid Dread was the MVP. They even started the Treehouse with a shwoing a words from Sakamoto, they knew.
I know their is little hope in a reunion as it’s been a few years, but damn I hope if David cage makes a new game, the Zaibatsu reforms for a short period of time to shit on his game and very questionable morals.
I once decided not to keep seeing a person because they were a fan of Quantic Dreams games. This just tells me how big the bullet was that I dodged. Good gods, David.
I’m fine with social commentary. Just don’t make it bad or cringe. And actually have something to say (if you have to say anything) besides “do better”.
This is something i can get behind, like I'll admit i often have a knee jerk reaction to when a developer says they're gonna make something political, because it always seems like it'll end up lacking any subtlety or nuance. I enjoy allegory and metaphors instead of just making every character a victim or something. Like how x men was an allegory for racism at first and then later became a thing about mutants being a stand in for gay people like that's a good use of politics because it was within the fictional universe and professor x provided an optimistic point of view instead of just "everyone is shit, hashtag oppression" if you'll forgive the hyperbole
that's generally my problem with social/political commentary. it's always handled with all the subtlety & nuance of a tactical nuke for no other reason than to "start a conversation" while having NOTHING to contribute to said conversation.
@@xsoultillerx that's how I feel about no russian, all COD has ever done is glorify war and all these intellectual are like 'um actually killing unarmed civilians was super badass and totally anti war, i slaughter those people for hours as a kid totallyy feeling super bad!'
People who write game stories are artists. People who orchestrate what people at AAA game companies can say during interviews are not. Let the games speak for themselves instead of letting a company's press team what the game is about.
BF2042 Announced it doesn't have a single player campaign and that "story elements" are woven into the multiplayer. So defend the refugee camp from getting genocided by the Russian No-Pats might be a....story element. Also weather manipulation weapons out of G.I. Joe might be a thing. So weaponized climate change is probably a bullet point. Its worth mentioning they kind of leaned heavily into political aspects in the background of BFV and got roasted for it. I remember seeing a leaked photo/video from a like a dev launch event that people went on about forever.
I’d pay to watch David Cage run out of a courtroom in tears.
Same, with popcorn too
That is so deeply cathartic for me to hear: hearing such a horrible, egotistical jerk have nothing to say and literally running out crying like a toddler because people aren't letting him get away with this unpleasantness.
It's like a Phoenix Wright trial come to life.
Imagine the emotions.
"You are interfering with my work, my business and my honor!!!"
*Proceeds to waddle away like a penguin, a trail of tears forming from behind*
Nothing brings me more interest, elation, terror, schadenfreude, and of course sadness than Pat saying "Did we not talk about David Cage?"
There’s something deeply satisfying about an insecure grandiose narcissist’s destructive deeds catch up with them and bite them in the ass
When Fortune smiles on some thing as ugly as revenge, it’s proof that not only does God exist, you’re doing his work.-Kill Bill
Us, all these years: "Pat is the biggest man baby."
David Cage: "Hold my koopies."
What kinda nonsense is this? Pat can never be big in any sort of way!
Well, ignoring that one way but we don't talk about that.
@@kodymcbride6901 Paige does though.
Koopie Sandwich! Koopie Sandwich!
oOooOOOOooo KOOPY!
This video is 16 years worth of catharsis and these guys deserved it
"Can I lie?" is way up there in terms of bloody stupid things to say aloud in a courtroom.
David cage is an idiot
I got to imagine judges are very used to hearing people blatantly incriminating themselves. I'd like to think the judge leaned in with curiosity and answered the question with a sincere "Sure, go ahead."
I'm assuming the fact that Cage was allowed to run out of the court room, and that this guy said "I'm not under oath" means this is essentially a civil case or whatever the equivalent is in France. None of that would fly in a criminal court.
@@habadasheryjones its def possible and hopefully he looked at his lawyer who then shook his head rapidly
@@Mr.Faust3 it was the CEO, but birds of a feather, right?
The fact he literally ran from the courtroom crying like an anime character is both hilarious and yet so unsurprising for David Cage
In your guys' playthrough of Detroit, there was one moment where Pat says "I'd love to find out that one of the story elements was just David saying "I hate my dad" like something pathetic like that." I could believe it.
Following every clue he's dropped along the way to his true nature shows that truly, despite all his rage, he's still David Cage.
Just a Dave in a Cage?
That old podcast segment where they talked about how Cage writes plots (everything good, meaning everything Cage likes, is on the same side, while everything bad, meaning everything Cage dislikes or fears, is on the other side, all working together) remains one of the only things that can make me laugh every time I listen to it. When Woolie gets to "Old... foreign chinese men?!" I die.
episode? :o
I also remember this but I cannot for the life of me remember which episode it was and I would very much like to listen to it again now
@@luccagiovani
I think its UA-cam title is called “Road to Detroit 0.2”
This is legitimately how a lot of people function tho.
Well, ‘function’ may be a strong word, but…
I don’t want to get into Barack Obama’s policies rn but I remember people legitimately calling him a gay Muslim Satan-worshiping atheist, because to those people, all of those words just mean ‘nuh-uh! >:(‘ Zero concept in their heads that some of those factions might be conflicting. They all just ‘people who hate Good Things.’ Magically on the same team.
I DON'T TRUST THAT!
Celebrity I thought was normal gets caught doing fuck shit: Oh no, how could they!
David Cage gets caught doing fuck up shit: Sounds about right.
The surprising part is how unsurprising it is, since all the evidence we had, until relatively recently, for his shittiness was just the writing in his games and his enormous ego.
I don't think he was known for any sort of scandal until this workplace stuff started coming out and Quantic Dreams collectively decided to shoot themselves in the foot in court.
Did you think David Cage was normal?
That's kinda the thing, here. It's not a shock if you're already expecting it.
STOMPED HIS FEET AND RAN FROM THE COURTROOM IN TEARS
It's almost as if Hideo Kojima incorporated real-world issues into his works, issues that have existed since the Cold War and arguably as far back as the 1920s and now those same issues have naturally progressed on their own. Man, how wild, what a prophet.
hideo kojima has the opposite of Pat's 「Crazy Talk」 where instead of things he thinks are true retroactively becoming false, things he thinks are fiction become reality in the future
Mister Kojima please write down i'll get a million dollars, PLEASE MISTER KOJIMA!
"Hello everyone, this is Hideo Kojima. I am proud to announce the title of my next video game: 'Hideo Kojima gets a million dollars and also solves world hunger'. I hope you are all looking forward to this next evolution in Strand type video games."
The real kicker is that it only works for predicting tragedies though.
Is his stand called「Don't Be So Serious」?
I had a damn Gekko almost step on me on the way to work today, shit sucks.
I cannot believe David Cage actually did the "we stand here amidst my achievement, not yours" thing during an actual trial
Non-Political Refugees™
That's a fucking phrase if I ever heard one.
*economic migrants
"Climate refugees."
turning "john cena" into a term for apologizing to china in mandarin for acknowledging the existence of taiwan is some good shit
Jesus I forgot about that
Down with the CCP, those National Socialist bastards need to pay for their crimes against humanity, physically, emotionally, and even spiritually...
I didn't even catch that holy shit
@@infiniteFERN funniest part of his apology was that he didn't/couldn't say what he was apologizing for, just that he was sorry and made mistakes... So they didn't except it as honest.
That was so pathetic.
This just in;
Canadian dwarf denied entry into life.
More at never.
The article seems like the smoking gun that proves that despite people's best effort to disprove otherwise David Cage was acting, as TBF so often proclaimed, with malice not stupidity. Which changes the context to a vast amount of his creations.
I WISH ON MY SOUL THAT WE COULD'VE HAD THE CAMERA ON FOR THIS! I need to see the look on their faces.
Political refugees has to be the most political thing possible.
There is no war in Ba Sing Se
not even touching UPON THE SLAVERY lol its so dumb. i cant believe people let him say it with a straight face.
I think more than anything this proves how no matter how hard they might try to hide it, a creator's slime will always leak through to their content. In the words of RLM, you may not notice it, but your brain does
Yeah, most stories are autobiographical.
@JosiexJosie
I mean look at Pat, Woolie and Matt all buying these games and playing them. So what if they critiqued it? They fueled this just as much. They still gave Quantic Dream their money which other people also did because they wanted to see how bad it was.
@Ian Nordin
Yeah this logic doesn't really work for everything. By this logic, ever person who makes slasher films or horror movies should be locked up for being psychopaths for creating the things they do. When usually they are actually rather chill people IRL. EDIT: Or hell! Look at Ruroni Kenshin's author having actual CP, not loli or shota stuff ACTUAL real life CP. What about his work would suggest he would be into that?
It's just with Cage... Like it wasn't just a little bit. Like just look at how he handled the "Detroit: Become Human isn't about civil rights and slavery" hard cut to androids standing in the back of the bus or then you have another show of it with Ellen Page (before she became a he and Elliot Page) fucking sued him for the leaks of those nude models of her and like Pat said about the interview. Like you don't need to say its the work when the character of the man was known. Not helped by the fact that studio management also had things changed so the average person who doesn't look in-depth can't tell what's the dudes work or the studio stuff. Hell, most people probably don't even know who this guy actually is cause most people don't know the name of the people who create the thing they watch or read. Then like what Pat ALSO said again, look how many times he got away with this and Sony just hiring him to keep making games and people buying it.
To quote Pat from another video: "Why Madden 70 dollar?" Most people are just not in-depth with this stuff.
@JosiexJosie Some people are just dense. Doesn't mean they're like Cage.
@@RavenCloak13 horror movies are more cheap than other movies, that's why it gets made so frequently.
David Cage isn't making anything because it's cheaper, it's because that's where he goes.
Also, there's a degree of excess even in genres that leave the creator's mark, so while it's foolish to psychoanalysis off the genre of work, you can definitely see authorial vision and focus within a work.
Pat: Did we not talk about David Cage?
Me: *sits up like The Undertaker*
David cage missed all the button prompts in his court trial mission, and just rage quit, it seems
If he were better at Simon Says he might have been able to see what they were gonna ask him ahead of time
Battlefield 2042 is a prequel to 2142 isn't it? Climatological disaster and an ensuing refugee crisis was explicitly a part of that game's lore.
Not that EA gives a fuck about canon or continuity in their games, but some people at Dice probably do.
the last dlc for bf4 featured prototypes of stuff that appears in 2142 too, like the big airships and hover tanks.
Until they explicitly say so, then no. Until it is confirmed that this is some form of “prequel” (any game that takes place before 2142 is technically a prequel anyway) then no, the “it’s not political” statement is merely just their attempt at avoiding at offending the Karen’s like they did with BF5
@@manticorephoenix
-"Until it is confirmed that this is some form of 'prequel'"
ua-cam.com/video/71VT6oTto1g/v-deo.html
-"any game that takes place before 2142 is technically a prequel"
@@KAPTAINmORGANnWo4eva
I played 2142 when I was a kid. I don't recall political refugees running around any of the maps, nor were they mentioned in game. It may have been mentioned in the manual, but it was never highlighted in the game, because, you know, it doesn't matter.
Flash forward to now. Given what they did with Battlefield 5 (and the state of game devs and game journalism in general) I wouldn't put it past them to be trying to make a "point" by pushing some agenda in he background. Either that or they are generating fake outrage for a game they don't think will do well.
@@baronvonslambert None of that was IN GAME which was the point. Media is NOT art and it is not inherently political. I write Novels for a living. Readers don't want people lecturing to them about current events. They know how to think and feel about current events, the fact that you believe they need to be reminded of "important events" that are happening says a lot about how you treat people.
Now, take your marxist bullshit and kindly fuck off =)
Think you guys misinterpreted Kojima's comments a bit. When he talked about the pandemic and 9/11, he was specifically referring to them as paradigm shifts in the global zeitgeist, leading to massive changes in how people think and act - which in turn means he has to reevaluate how he makes games, or what he wants to say in them. It's no more a sign of a god complex than when Yoko Taro said 9/11 made him want to write about how subjectivity can cause anyone to believe themselves righteous, which led to Nier.
A man who dares to think.
I remember when Woolie wanted to kill everyone and then himself to spare us from the suffering of David Cage. He truly is an Eldritch Horror™.
Grandma Swamp is slipping through the facade.
Supposedly David Cage described Detroit: BH as "like Blade Runner, but if you were meant to empathize with the androids."
i thought you were supposed to sympathize with the androids in blade runner.
wasn't that basically the whole point of roy telling decker he's "seen things you people wouldn't believe"?
@@xsoultillerx yes
“but the humans are the bad guys”
The sheer level of delusion he must live into say such things.. just.... geez........
THE AUDACITY
"it's Moby Dick but the whale isn't the bad guy"
'Quantic Dream Executives Cry, Ask If They Can Lie During Recent Court Appearance' is one of the best headlines I've read in a while
A reminder that in David Cage’s first game the villain is a demon who tricked you into playing the game… so basically just David Cage.
Edit: ok I get the context behind Woolie talking about not existing, what the Hell is the era of No Pat?
read up on BF2042
Little did we know, all the bad, downright fucked morality and bizarre implications in David's games was him charging his problematic behaviour AOE attack for this court appearance. I haven't seen such a blatant public self-own like this since Trapt's social media oopsies.
David was saving meter for Clown Install this whole time.
I wish there was someone just passing by and recorded David Cage running out of the court building(if he went that far) in tears with their phones.
The Sadness Saga has no end.
depending on how this plays out for Cage this might actually be the end
SADNESS: UNCAGE EMOTION
And soon the Sadness will go into Space (assuming Star Wars Eclipse doesnt get canned)
Crude joke but bear with me...
"David Cage... he simp'd a celebrity so hard that they transitioned."
"What if Black people were robots". I just realised how fucking brilliant this is, and its brilliancy is entirely on accident, I bet. The word "robot" is halfway between "rob" - meaning "slave"; and "robotnik" - meaning "employee". A person who is legally a person - i.e. not property - but also not fully free. It's a brilliant allegory and I'm 100% sure David Cage had no idea.
Robots as slave allegories can be traced all the way back to Rossum's Universal Robots, which coined the term "robot".
Cage thought he was breaking new ground by telling the exact same story as the very first work of robot fiction.
Wait, _Robotnik was a real word that existed outside of Sonic this whole time?!_
@@blackheartzerotheundergrou3225 Yes, but I suspect SEGA came up with it from "robot", without realising it's a real word. Kind of like a transport agency calling their new bus "Bussy". The real word has nothing to do with robots. Or at least not in the sense of a man making robots.
This makes the ending of Detroit where kamski is funding the robot revolution, so he could make more money by "solving it" literally just being "soros bucks" thing makes more sense now.
Well that's just government in general. And often times that just makes things worse.
What I will always remember about the Become Human LP is how Woolie's cowardice got his character killed.
Wasn't it the exact opposite? He didn't run away, and got shot?
@@The5lacker It was a few missions before that. He was supposed to sneak past a android security guard and in the process befriend him. Instead Woolie's cowardice got the better of him and the security guard wasn't there to save him.
What i would give for a video of exactly what happened in that courtroom.
I would kill someone for that.
@@WTFisTingispingis Judge: Oh really?
@@GoldLight73 YEAH. *pumps shotgun*
@@WTFisTingispingis And I'll f'ing do it again yuck
"Judge me by my work and the friends I made along the way, please. I remember this one time I accidentally modeled my good friend Ellen Page's no no bits for my game and then she was all 'my no nudity clause!' and I was all 'what?' and she was all 'see you in court!' and I was all 'no way' and we just laughed and laughed about it together. Oh man, good times."
-David Cage
Just in case you haven't heard, it's Elliot* and he*
@@ElecTrishian924 David Cage would absolutely continue to refer to Elliot Page as Ellen Page, he's done far worse already.
@@ElecTrishian924 At the time of the court proceedings years ago Elliot was still Ellen Page. Plus like the other dude said, David Cage is the exact type of person who would dead name someone.
@@habadasheryjones Yeah, fair. I personally would have said something like "my good friend *dead name* Page" because it strikes me as kind of a grey area what language you should use when you're ascribing statements to someone who would *definitely* dead name and misgender someone. I might be overthinking it though and I see what you're going for
I didn't know about Quantic Dream. By the time Pat said Cage ran away crying I could not stop laughing and nearly crying. Bro I'm at a library, I had to step out. Oh my lord.
"Non-political refugees"
Immigrants. The word they were looking for is immigrants, but since they specifically used refugees A FUNDAMENTALLY political word by definition, they don't get to play the 'not political' card. Yet they keep trying and it's fucking infuriating.
Depending on the circumstances of immigration it can also be highly political. So basically you can't escape it and it's pathetic to try.
They are trying to market it to the "frightened by all non-whites" crowd and hoping that nobody else notices.
Wait in what world is an influx of immigrants as a result of climate change less political than refugees?
@@Neocyberman1 Fleeing from another country due to climate change would, by definition, make you a refugee. Immigration isn't inherently political. Whether it becomes political depends on the circumstances, and we have specific names for those circumstances, for instance, refugees.
@@Rikuo86 ah I see, I getcha
Quantic Dream (FINAL?)
Ethan mars and aiden the ghost are no longer friends
One can only hope
I clapped I clapped when I heard David Cage ran out of court crying.
I mean it I heard that and I legitimately applauded.
I just googled "David Cage" and one of Google's suggested questions was "Is David Cage a human?"
he's only SLIGHTLY more human than mark zuckerburg I'd say.
If Earthbound and Mother 3 taught me anything, it's that people like David Cage may in fact be the most human of us all.
I keep making this joke but the strongest evidence that David Cage isn't homophobic is him not wanting us to play his games.
i love that pat remembered to talk about david cage because they started joking about heavy piss rain
Who would have thought that the guy who wrote/directed a whole bunch of racist, sexist, homophobic things would turn out to be racist, sexist, and homophobic?
"Wha Happun?!"
Out of all the creepy stuff in Beyond and Omikron, the fact that the reporter in Heavy Rain was introduced in a dream sequence where you run around in your underwear and get caught by intruders is the most baffling thing to me. It's like he wrote that scene first and had no where to put it so he just made it a dream that had no effect on the plot.
@@Kango234 in retrospect everybody was kinda sleeping on the fact that the only black guy in Heavy Rain was introduced with the line "Ey cracka, whatchu doin' in there!?"
@@conelybiscuit4985 what no that lines not real
@@coldfrost3 That line is so real. Also he is absolutely voiced by a white guy doing his best "scary black man" impression.
"Nobody out David Cage's David Cage!"
-David Cage
If you remember, every single thing in Detroit that was fun or interesting, David *ACTIVELY* fought against its inclusion. I have a strong suspicion it’s the head of the Snake on this one… if I am proven wrong in the future, then that’s both my bad and pathetic.
It's true that Cage doesn't make games for fa***** because us fa***** have good taste in games.
Woolie, that R1 Button press joke regarding David Cage is fucking hilarious. It took me a second to fully get it.
I know a guy who’s *very* into Battlefield. If he’s a standard metric of the fan base they literally couldn’t care less about anything besides the guns the guys were using in the trailer and how excited they are for the number to go up in multiplayer
big this.
You’ve clearly never played battlefield
I’m very excited for this game, this is one of those times you can ignore Reddit, no actual Battlefield player is offended over things like this, no actual Battlefield player was offended at the idea of playing a female soldier in Battlefield 5, the things that offend Battlefield players is when the game is broken and receives no support
@@manticorephoenix the "female soldiers in WWII" thing was more of a knock by history buffs for being "historically inaccurate".
but ultimately you're right the average battlefield and/or CoD player isn't going to care too much about political commentary no matter how on the nose it is since they're never going to touch the singleplayer campaign where said commentary is present.
@@xsoultillerx Also plenty of people talking about how you could have made a game about actual, historical women who were involved in the conflict in various ways, rather than inserting original characters into roles that might not make sense, but those kinds of posts didn't bring in the controversy clicks, and thus got little-to-no spotlight.
Looking back it’s kind of ironic how Elliot Page’s character Jodie Holmes in Beyond: Two Souls was basically an edgier version of Klaus from Umbrella Academy. Complete with a ghost buddy who turns out to be their dead sibling.
I wonder if Elliot Page coming out has anything to do with David Cage’s apparent newfound emotional instability.
I know that if I was a complete shitheel who made an entire game creeping on a Hollywood star, and then that star came out as trans, I would probably begin to come apart at the seems. Perhaps by shouting and running out of the courtroom in the defamation trial that MY COMPANY FILED.
LUCKLY I am neither a shitheel (I hope) nor did I make a creepy game that caused Elliot Page to sue me. Yet.
You'll get there some day.
That’s probably part of it, but I think Cage is also seeing the world chasing up with his true self, being openly critical and louder about it, and his ego can’t take it.
That one tweet he made about Detroit being the first nonviolent video game, and the internet just had a field day in the replies, mocking and slamming him left and right.
David Cage and the Quantum Hydra.
"Dude it's clear!'
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"No dude dude it's YELLOW."
Saying that a work isn't political is horrifying because it means the developers have nothing to say about the man-made end of the world in their piece of art. Insane!
To be honest I see it like Disaster Day of Crisis, or military themed pornography. Don't think they have an obligation or end up to say much about the climate or military.
Or maybe it's because they want to entertain, you know that thing western entertainment has consistently failed to for the past decade?.
@@pvtferret5158 @Pvt Ferret Entertain us by doing what? What's the point in telling a story so deeply inspired by the real breaking apart of the modern world if there's just nothing to say? Why write a story this way, why create the models and texture them if you're going to say "draw no conclusions from the throngs of people immiserated and wandering through our military shooter who we have intentionally put there"
You might as well have just said "we factory farmed this one out and put a coat of global warming paint on it"
And where's all this western stuff coming from? You've going to need to explain a little here.
@@ew275x but you see how absurd the statement "our climate refugees are meaningless and not political" is right?
@@Neocyberman1 Because escapism is a thing? Why would you even want your real world propblems to follow you into what should be a break from regular life, why do people insist on on grabbing your head by the hair and slamming it into problems you can't solve, all of it is just worthless activism by corporate entities and idiot Danger-hair blobs that couldn't care less about these things.
8:34 I started to grin when I got to that part on the podcast.
He doesn’t deserve the benefit of the doubt, but I want to make it known anyway. Detroit isn’t necessarily “I want to write about civil rights, but nobody cares about minorities so I’ll use white ppl”. If it was that I don’t think they would have used so many black human characters. It seems more likely they wanted it to be about civil rights, but thought they where really clever in how it has nothing to do with skin color, even though it arguably is still about race. And of course as Mothers basement pointed out all the talks about creationism are literally true. They could have salvaged that if the whole RA9 shit wasn’t an unexplored red herring
His whole career could just be summed up with him having only a surface level understanding of what he is writing about and stealing stuff from Hollywood without understanding why any of it works.
The one thing that's probably in David Cage's favor is that he knows what stuff is the "good stuff" to steal.
Detroit is probably the best game they have made, and feels like the one where they decided, finally, to steal some things from real life instead of grabbing everything straight from IMDB's Top Rated Movies list.
Detroit is actually very arguably not about race. He brings up the topic of race through imagery, but he doesn't actually address race. Imagery from the Civil Rights Movement, USA history of black slavery, BLM movement, and the Holocaust, are just set dressing to gussy up a shallow story because he knows these topics mean something to other people.
In fact, he's set up his world in exactly the way that would undercut any attempts to address racism, by making his marginalized group only questionably human. It's very much "racism" written by someone who does not understand racism at all.
@@jjj7790 It’s not clear how many civil rights allegories you need to steal before your story becomes about civil rights, despite your intentions. Detroit tries to do a lot of different things and so I’m not sure what the main theme even is. All I know is what imagery, and philosophies Cage is using. Everything outside of Conners story is just plain stupid. I don’t even like mothers basement but he broke down what the game does perfectly.
Remember everyone Detroit is like bladerunner but the humans are evil
@@Agent_Cobalt My take just comes from me thinking about how most of the Civil Rights Era and BLM imagery stuff is shoved into Markus's section, but what you actually do in his section is "wake up the sheeple to rebel against the government" stuff that is actually kind of incongruous to that.
Outside of the short sections with his owner and his owner's son, he doesn't really have any significant interactions with a human who isn't an active enemy combatant.
If the story was about discrimination, you'd think it would actually have scenes addressing discrimination through android&human interaction, but instead the actual content of the Markus story is action movie segments and drama with other androids.
So I guess my thing is that the writing seems to understand Civil Rights so poorly that for me it might as well not be about it at all.
Connors segment is pretty much the best because of Hank. Through Hank as a human proxy they can address the discrimination against androids and the humanity of androids. Also because Hank is a depressed bastard they can tie Connor becoming more human with him losing his suicidal thoughts.
The other storylines basically miss all of that by having them not interact consistently with a human character, aka that Alice twist shit.
@@jjj7790 Isn't all of that bullshit though? Because you find out from that one ending with Conner that none of androids really had free will and it was just a set up from the android company to achieve ????? something?
David cage is making a star war games
I could feel the rumblings of this video being made
David Cage thought he was in a David Cage game and there were no consequence of the bad story
No-Pats are allowed into my treehouse.
So only one then?
Woolie calling them Elliot Page was low key all I needed from this clip. Respect ✊
What I'd give to see David Cage run out of the room crying like that
"David Cage, are you homophobic?"
"What? How dare you, I've worked with this straight man."
Wut
To be fair, at the time Eliot Page was still Elin Page and had just come out of the closet as a lesbian.
Every great satirist begins to wonder if they spoke the evil into the world.
the thing about kojima is that when you actually try to understand politics instead of avoiding it, truly understand the forces of imperialism, capitalism, and bigotry at play, the future becomes easier to see coming
Game: * Depicts future as utopian society *
"Pshh. Really? That'd never happen!"
Game: * Depicts future as dystopian hellscape *
"Yeah okay that makes sense. Mhm, yep I can see that."
Yeah, that kinda rubbed me the wrong way too.
8:36 I love how Woolie has a David cage designated sigh.
David cage: this game ABOUT slavery, is not about slavery at all.
Ubisoft: yeah man, makes sense to me.
I hate to say it but I feel like even if they got rid of Cage Quantic would probably make games of very similar quality since those games do well and it’s what’s expected of them.
19:30 Is that why the asylum scene in Indigo Prophecy is in first-person?
Ever since Star Wars Eclipse, anti-SJW’s like Geeks and Gamers, TheQuartering, Nerdrotic, RK Outposr, Critical Drinker, etc have been defending David Cage. Makes sense cause he acts like them: Cowardly, sexist, racist, pretentious, thinks he’s better than everyone and treats people like shit.
This feels almost like a proper conclusion to the sadness saga
i'd listen to the first part cuz its a fun listen, but if you wanna get to the Cage, it's at 8:35
I've been waiting for this highlight and goddamn it's so good to finally hear it lmaoo
Concerning Kojima's ability to predict the future, vocal chord parasites are a lot like covid: spread by speaking to people, fatal, political
In defense of the Ubisoft statement, I THINK I know what that dev or PR guy in the interview was trying to say. He was saying FC6 wasn't political in the same way a lot of gamers say they don't want politics in their videogames. Which is to say that it has nothing to do with western progressivism. It's not that there's no politics, it's that the politics don't have a leftist stance.
It's why this conversation is so hard to have because the 2 sides have an entirely different conception of what they're talking about. It's why "woke shit" has 2 different definitions on the left and right. For the left it's a very specific niche subset of leftist politics, for the right it's ANYTHING progressive, and that simply having a gay or black person in a videogame can qualify as "woke shit" (unless a Japanese dev did it, then it's said that the intention is pure because it's not tainted by western influence, but if said Japanese dev is leftist, then it's "pozzed" and proof that Japan is declining). So if this dev is saying "it's not political" and he genuinely means that, I think he means it's just not leftist and the person interviewing them is operating on a different wavelength than them.
Only a specific niche subset of the right see anything "progressive" as "woke shit." That specific subset also tends to think the entire left is the niche subset you mentioned.
But I will agree that a big problem in the talk of "politics in (medium)" is differing definitions. For example, I don't see an environmentalist message as inherently political unless it's either suggesting some specific course of action, (i.e. a POLICY) or crosses over into shouting "the end is nigh! Repent sinners!" at the audience, while I have a friend who believes that everything is political in one way or another even if you're not consciously trying to make a political point with your work.
Another problem is that die-hards on either side tend to take a stance of "Keep YOUR politics, specifically, out of our (medium)" even if they don't say those exact words. They'll happily lap up anything that agrees with their beliefs already, regardless of quality, and rail on things that either support the other side's talking points, or just don't toe the line closely enough.
And further compounding the issue is that sometimes criticisms of how the message is handled is taken as criticism of and/or disagreement with the message itself, and one person ends up assuming the other person is telling them to "keep out politics" when they're really saying that the message could have been more convincing if you did X.
@@FrozenOver0 >That specific subset also tends to think the entire left is the niche subset you mentioned.
Let's be fair, this goes both ways. There's also a specific subset of the left that thinks anyone to the right of Stalin is a racist fascist homophobe.
They're both culture warriors, that's the problem. Neither side wants to hear what the other says and both sides are very loud.
@@SeruraRenge11 Yeah, that's pretty much the point I was driving it, I just didn't mention the other side of it in my post because you'd already mentioned it in yous.
@@SeruraRenge11 Couldn't have said it better myself.
@@SeruraRenge11 there's a hard line and Trumpian right crossed it and tainted it. Now you can't give an inch because the miles and miles have been taken
11:30 Everyone who praised Beyond Two Souls and Detroit Become Human are now experiencing infinite spiraling cringe.
i heard connor's story was the only good part of detroit because his actor apparently adlibbed most of his performance.
@@xsoultillerx Yep. Both him and Hanks actor adlibbed a good chunk of their lines despite Cage being pissy about it. Which explains why their portions of the game were so good.
I still need to play Detroit.
@@shadowreaverrising1753 you really don't
Every multiplayer map is NO RUSSIAN.
It makes me wonder if the people at Dice want to make some sort of commentary, but EA marketing is trying to deemphasize it so as to not scare anyone away.
That's absolutely my theory.
BF2142's lore had the whole climate apocalypse and refugee crisis as a backdrop.
It wasnt a commentary in that game, either, literally just a backdrop.
@@ToasterDsG seems kind of absurd that it’d be going on for 100 years straight
@@jacksonboyd8630 not really when we have had Earth going through massive climate shifts for thousands of years.
@@seokkyunhong8812 I was mostly referring to the refugee thing
when I saw the title, I knew I had to get to listen to this segment
XD
Metroid Dread!
That one trailer filled me with more emotion than any David Cage game.
I love this comment, summed up everything nicely
When I saw the trailer Woolie's voice entered my mind "What's going on with Metroid DREAD"
Just gonna sandbag Kazuya in Smash?
@@cyberninjazero5659 Kazuya was cool too, but yeah, let's face it, Metroid Dread was the MVP. They even started the Treehouse with a shwoing a words from Sakamoto, they knew.
28:48 I SEE that mouse in the top right corner, you cant hide it from me!
Ah... Catharsis
I know their is little hope in a reunion as it’s been a few years, but damn I hope if David cage makes a new game, the Zaibatsu reforms for a short period of time to shit on his game and very questionable morals.
I once decided not to keep seeing a person because they were a fan of Quantic Dreams games. This just tells me how big the bullet was that I dodged. Good gods, David.
I’m fine with social commentary. Just don’t make it bad or cringe. And actually have something to say (if you have to say anything) besides “do better”.
This is something i can get behind, like I'll admit i often have a knee jerk reaction to when a developer says they're gonna make something political, because it always seems like it'll end up lacking any subtlety or nuance. I enjoy allegory and metaphors instead of just making every character a victim or something. Like how x men was an allegory for racism at first and then later became a thing about mutants being a stand in for gay people like that's a good use of politics because it was within the fictional universe and professor x provided an optimistic point of view instead of just "everyone is shit, hashtag oppression" if you'll forgive the hyperbole
that's generally my problem with social/political commentary.
it's always handled with all the subtlety & nuance of a tactical nuke for no other reason than to "start a conversation" while having NOTHING to contribute to said conversation.
@@xsoultillerx that's how I feel about no russian, all COD has ever done is glorify war and all these intellectual are like 'um actually killing unarmed civilians was super badass and totally anti war, i slaughter those people for hours as a kid totallyy feeling super bad!'
It was so obvious, no one thought it could be real.
This is ze bad end
People who write game stories are artists. People who orchestrate what people at AAA game companies can say during interviews are not. Let the games speak for themselves instead of letting a company's press team what the game is about.
11:44 caged is really stuck between being in his games and reality 😁
And nothing of value was lost.
Being a decent human is a failure of the Quantic Dream designer.
Between two cages, I chose the one less occupied
The era of No-Pats.
the moment you guys mentioned david cage an ad about poop started playing. im not joking
BF2042 Announced it doesn't have a single player campaign and that "story elements" are woven into the multiplayer. So defend the refugee camp from getting genocided by the Russian No-Pats might be a....story element. Also weather manipulation weapons out of G.I. Joe might be a thing. So weaponized climate change is probably a bullet point.
Its worth mentioning they kind of leaned heavily into political aspects in the background of BFV and got roasted for it. I remember seeing a leaked photo/video from a like a dev launch event that people went on about forever.
NoPats is the new version of No Johns.
I already knew who they were talking about just by the title