Umm, actually, he only needed to see his nostalgia die for the Mangekyo to activate. It's a common misconception that he needed to do the killing himself, and most certainly not a terrible retcon invented by Minh.
You can do terrible things but if you say you’re super sorry all will be forgiven, you can train until your bones shatter but you’ll never be better than the guy with the genetic ability to send you to another dimension by looking at you. Truly this was a Naruto Uzumaki.
@@BazzBrother Goku actually had a fixit mcguffin and he actually trained for his powers, so no. Not saying that Goku's great, but he's definitely no Naruto.
@@BazzBrother goku was born as the saiyan with the lowest number in all of history, to the point he was comparable to a human, it was his hard work and teacher that made him better, the other saiyans (including vegeta) were either too arrogant to train or didn't understand KI, also goku is a FAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRR better MC than naruto.
Modern Goku is broken, but only because the writing got stale. Back in classic Dragonball and Z he worked his ass off and got the shit kicked out of him. SSJ is when these things got wonky
the worst part of that is that all three of the remaining defectively evil sound ninja struggle with their roles in heroics in the boruto manga from what i hear.
And tons of other people including but not limited to all of Akatsuki, the rain village and every single person who died on a war started because his 12 year old crush died
The sad thing is, I genuinely like Obito compared to other villains besides Zabuza and Orochimaru. He's the only Uchida who I found relatable and actual sympathetic (besides Itatchi) to an extent. But he did not need a complete 180 redemption that he did not earn or need, his feud, and relationship with Kakashi is compelling if he died in Kakashi's arms Vader Luke style, sure fine. But forcing a situation where Obito switches sides and Naruto forgives him as easily as fuckface Sasuke is stupid.
People bitch and joke about Goku being a bad neglectful father, but compared to daddy Sasuke, Goku is fucking Mufasa. Sasuke literally tries to kill his own daughter Sarada when he meets her because he didn't bother to carry a photo of her or find out what she looks like. If Kishmoto had balls he would've killed this emo dick long ago.
It **really is** the Dumbest! Bleach and Gundam get pretty close in parts, but Naruto is the marathon winner japanese equivalent Mark Millar, Uwe Boll, David Cage, and, Rob Liefeld all being wrapped into one series without any of the beneficial elements a Tommy Wiseau would inject
listen. i finished the naruto manga. i didn't enjoy the last few years, but i'm glad i did it. because now i can come down from the mountain with the stone tablets for all of you, and inform that yamato, a major character who was being used as a monster factory to produce the white zetsus that obito used for his army, was kidnapped at the start of the ninja war and was just never rescued. he appears in the epilogue unharmed, but the series literally forgot he existed and nobody ever saved him.
Naruto talking to Obito, the man who killed Naruto's parents, was apart of a genocide, murdered children, and is the biggest simp in all of anime: "I think you're kinda cool"
Well that just sounds like humanity in a nutshell if you think about. Too stupid to see the obvious problem but gullible enough to give a handjob to said problem. So I say bravo!!! 10 out of 10
@The nobody shit isn't fucking funny oh you're talking crazy, because even I know I'm a bit stupid. So don't go assume shit, that makes an ass out of me and mostly you lol. You don't have to be smart to see the similarities, or the symbolism that people put into their work that gravitates towards real life.
he's not only not in chains, he's continuing his experiments. the albino kid on boruto's team is orochimaru's test tube baby, and orochimaru is wearing a new skinsuit when we see him, meaning he's still doing his body-snatcher/immortality thing.
Fuck that, he could still potentially escape confinement. Set the dude on fire with Amaterasu, trap him inside the Kamui, and leave him in that pocket dimension, writhing in flames for 15 years then bring the corpse out and disintegrate it on the molecular level Tsuchikage style. With how many times Orochimaru has survived deadly attacks, I say take no fuckin chances with that creep.
In the end, all that matter is that Hiashi got that perfect eugenics baby for the glory of the Hyuga. He also got Boruto, but let's put that aside for now.
That's why, when you see him interact with Boruto and Hiwarimi in the Bort anime, he's all happy and proud grandpa. Those are the fruits of his labour right there.
I think my biggest problem with this show is how everything needs to be a parallel to Naruto's own life, or else he won't be able to relate to it. From about 90% of the antagonists, to a handful of side characters, everyone needs to have had a sad childhood, or have been mistreated, or have experienced loss, or all three at once. And when that happens, all the horrible shit you've done regardless of context or impact just gets swept under the rug. Who cares that you started Ninja ISIS and hunted people down like animals because they had demons sealed inside of them, all because your friend died? It's fiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiine.
What's extra bullshit, is how Naruto could've flipped the script on them and call them out on their flimsy excuses. He could've said "This village was treating me like crap ever since I first rode that swing, and I'm still doing the right thing, what your FUCKING excuse!?"
What is really bad about it is all these characters having sad stories could work, their ninja literally trained from childhood to be killers and assassins so of course they wouldnt be well adjusted but I mean come on
Say what you will, but you'll never get me to hate the part where Madara goes, "oh, cool. You stopped the meteor. What you gonna do about the second meteor? Lol."
Oh, nobody’s denying that there aren’t great moments, again Guy kicks Madara the hardest anyone’s ever kicked someone, but moments can’t save the overall badly written narrative
@@malikoniousjoe You basically just explained everyone (sensible)’s opinion on Naruto. Story sucks, but these specific things are the fucking coolest things to see.
If it wasn't for the fact the "what you are given at birth doesn't matter" lesson wasn't complete bullshit; the story would have been basically perfect. Naruto should have been some rando that Minato had to use to seal 9 tails and that's it. Even that is too much honestly@@Jdudec367
That just makes it sadder because we missed out on a way better version of this shit show where Rock Lee was the protagonist. Imagine all this god shit going on and our main character still only has punches but he's just doing it super hard and super fast and ends the story as a cripple but God damn did he fuck everyone up along the way.
@@Darkyan97 About that. Yeah, how about Sasuke learns that his brother did what was best for him and Sasuke DOESNT become a shit and decides to protect the village like his brother wanted? Lol Sure it would have been a wasted journey for revenge but at least we wouldn't have Sasukes downward spiral only to be forgiven in the end.....
@@tailedgates9 Nah, you can't have sasuke just ignore Danzo and the leaf elders caused his family to die That's almost as bad as naruto just forgiving obito
Remember when this a series about a misfit kid cursed with something out of his control that made everyone around him hate him so he worked hard with his own power he earned to overcome and even make use of his failings and weaknesses just so he could be liked and respected by his peers, and the friends he made along they way were all also misfits he won over through his own actions, hard-work, and compassion in the face of a world looking down on him who never expected anything from him or cut him any slack? Yeah me neither.
Too bad all that does happen because Naruto literally trains and works the entirety of the series the only power up naruto didn't train for was the sage of six paths upgrade.
Jordan Barkley If you ignore the way Naruto constantly stressed bonds, connections, the formation, and destruction of them. Too many people conflate Naruto’s plot hooks and storytelling with its actual themes and what it was. If I hear another person tell me naruto is about hard work I’m going to kill myself in Minecraft
@@kmoney890 The thing is you're only half right, because saying hard work was never important core theme to Naruto from the VERY BEGINNING is straight up intellectually dishonest. The entire first half of series has that idea caked into almost every crevase. The problem isn't that one of these ideas(hard work and bonds) isn't a main focus, it's that one basically cannibalizes the other to the tune of very poor conceived plotting, kneecapping one message of the series to the point of contradiction and overstating the other to the point of ridiculousness. So yes, you are right, bonds and friendship are a core part of the series, but they are done very poorly and at the expense of the other core theme that IS hard work and determination.
And it's sad because you are super right. If Might Guy would have beat Madara and ended everything for everybody, he would have been the living proof that the initial message of the series was right and that hard work and tenacity surpasses any and all birthrights. Sure some people would be upset, but I think having that one change would probably have Naruto seen as a flawed masterpiece, because Kishimoto would have spent over a decade building up all these prophecies and birthrights only to knock it all down at the end to reinforce the original message of the manga. It would have been seen as a stroke of genius for some people.
Man, woolie getting hype makes me think of the best timeline. Might Guy and Rock Lee both open the 8 gates, and wreck Madara so hard that they get statues in the leaf village and are finally recognized as the most legit Ninja in the show
Unending serial stories either become sitcoms over time like Dragon Ball, or begin falling in on themselves by straining their premise and cannibalizing their own themes and history to keep chugging along.
It's not just Chinese cartoons that do this. Any serious-toned TV show that outlives its freshness ends up this way. Examples include X-Files and Supernatural.
@@sonicboomers122 its because one piece isnt written month by month oda has an ending planned out , plus it's an adventure anime/manga so it can be stretched out easier
Letting Sasuke, the guy who tried to murder the war criminal world leaders go is one thing. But letting Orochimaru, the man who created factories to produce children so he could hollow out said children in order to always be young just run around with your children is another thing.
He really doesn't need to if he doesn't want to I won't blame him even with how much I enjoy him taking the piss out of and ranting about the dumb stuff in this franchise
Woolie should probably avoid reading those interviews with Kishimoto explaining his plot decisions if he wants to preserve any sense of respect for the man. Cause boy, hearing his explanations really convinced me that he is a mediocre to bad writer if he doesn't have an editor smacking him every other chapter.
@@knightornstein5902 He says that he hates Sakura because she's poorly written...he's the goddamn author! He's literally hating her because he's a shit writer!
Off the top of my head, Neji died so that Naruto could get with Hinata, Sakura changing her crush from Sasuke would make her a "bad woman," Edo Tensei and White Zetsu army happened because he backed himself into a corner with talk no jutsu, the 4th hokage was originally a ninja dog and he thought he could make people like Sakura more if he drew her more beautiful.
@@malikoniousjoe Is there a character that could even possibly EVEN TOUCH Madara Uchiha? Let alone defeat him. And I'm not talking about Edo Tensei Uchiha Madara. I'm not talking about Gedou Rinne Tensei Uchiha Madara either. Hell, I'm not even talking about Juubi Jinchuuriki Gedou Rinne Tensei Uchiha Madara with the Eternal Mangekyou Sharingan and Rinnegan doujutsus (with the rikodou abilities and being capable of both Amateratsu and Tsukuyomi genjutsu), equipped with his Gunbai, a perfect Susano'o, control of the juubi and Gedou Mazou, with Hashirama Senju's DNA implanted in him so he has mokuton kekkei genkai and can perform yin yang release ninjutsu while being an expert in kenjutsu and taijutsu.
God you're probably right. Lol Like dude, your brother in law/your wife's half brother/your children's uncle is dead because of this asshole who couldn't accept the fact that his childhood crush died. XD
@@tailedgates9 I honestly just assume that Hinata is still overjoyed that Naruto finally got the message without her having to straight up jump on his dick. Also I doubt Naruto brings Obito up that often
It still the energy of “this thing is dumb and cringe until I decide to do it, then it’s cool.” It’s just funny how they spent plenty of time shitting on fan fiction as a concept only for Woolie to find a situation where he likes it
That's how it always is, man. Everyone thinks it's all bullshit til they realize "Wait, I can make - insert franchise here -, sans - insert shitty writer under intense pressure from publishers here -! I can _right the wrongs!"_ One hell of a powertrip, tell you that for free. One day I wanted to read some cringey schlock for the yucks, next thing I know I'm a third eye opened Rikudou Sennin on Naruto trivia and fanfiction.
Imagine if Rock Lee was the protagonist and they just combined Naruto and Sasuke together to be the rival. The show would be a billion times more interesting.
@@felixdaniels37 maybe I haven't watched a shonen in a decade so I'm not familiar. If so happy days I'm glad the genre isn't absolutely terrible anymore hopefully.
Hell, Kisame strikes a perfect balance where its revealed that he was sort of unhinged from day 1 but found a friend in Itachi. And goes out like a true ninja. RIP best fish boy.
@Big Daddy Yes what he actually DID may be small but his intentions were to murder several of his old friends and allies as well as kill all the major world leaders.
21:17 I love how Pat grabs his Elmo Shield to protect himself halfway through :3 You know, it was great seeing this happen in real time all these years ago. Seeing people who actually enjoyed the series slowly losing their souls each week was glorious
Time for Japan to actually produce one then ...and not just a single Season, like an entire 5-year run with *consistency* in meeting a bare minimum standard every season
Madara: was killed by his own Hubris/Kaguya so he doesn't pay for anything he's caused. Obito: is kakashi's bff who's only responsible for the deaths of countless civilian lives. Pain: had good intentions so it's cool that he killed everyone in the Hidden Leaf Sasuke: it's genetics lol Orochimaru: 😳
@@howiewong7057 and running an orphanage. he's still a horrific snake-monster man who experimented on children by the way, that didn't change nor did he express sorrow for it. but he's running an orphanage now. nothing can go wrong!
Naruto universe: everyone looks like one of their parents Boruto universe: everyone looks like a mashup of their parents Boruto supports interracial confirmed!
Tobirama "If the eyes glow red, a kunai to the head" Senju was right. The narrative tried to prove him wrong, and then it tripped into a dark alley where those damn dirty Uchiha proceeded to mug it for all it had. Imagine trying to make a character look like the bad guy and then proving him right as hard as possible, without meaning to.
Which is funny since outside of being told they uchihas were upset we never really saw what the majority of the clan felt about the village I mean it wasnt like they were stuck in a ghetto they had their own section of the village just like all the other major clans the whole segregation thing is just poorly written
The 2nd Hokage hearing what Itachi did: “I mean, it’s a tragedy and all. All those Uchihas getting cut down by a rouge Anbu agent, but a lot of people get killed by Anbu all the time. So I guess I’m saying, all lives matter. You know?”
deidara is the best villain in naruto because deidara is completely unrepentant. he wants to blow things up with clay-magic/plastic-explosives and you are a thing. deidara's last moment alive isn't even him being sorry, it's him going "fucking finally, finally i can use THE BIG ONE! YES! HALLELUJAH, THANK YOU GOD!" then he turns himself into a nuke and tries to atomize sasuke. him being revived as an edo tensei only has him going "i'm alive again? and also immortal? fucking sick, that means i can turn into a nuke as many times as i want!" every other villain gets watered down into utter nothingness, madara's only notable because of his power, obito apparently did nothing wrong and kaguya's personality consists of the traits "aloof" and "is a space rabbit". at least deidara stood for something and fought for his art to the end.
Imagine if your ex kept stalking you, despite your protests, and was texting you over and over again the same exact stuff Naruto says to Sasuke. Now I truly understand how creepy that shit is.
For the most part what was said about the justification syndrome was on point however the Akatsuki did have some proper just evil assholes. The core problem with Naruto is that the, "Hard work beats everything." concept only works out when the talented people aren't working out just as hard the whole time. Also he gets forgotten because he was the start of the mess that was the Ninja war, but Kabuto and in turn Orochimaru are the embodiment of the flaw. They're literally the people working hard and trying to steal away the special people's powers and making their own, and he gets pretty damn close to succeeding only to get overshadowed and forgotten because of the TRUE MOST SPECIAL.
The fact that there are awesome characters that were exceptions to the Evil Is Genetic rule, and My Nakama Give Me Strength rule, that are swept under the rug is just as frustrating.
To be fair, Madara didn't need to be talked down and made to feel sorry because of his sad past. He understood his actions and had no intention of allighing himself with the protagonists. He's made his choices and he lives with them. Same thing with Zabuza and Haku. Which makes him being punked out of the story, EVEN WORSE. Lol Imagine if the final villain of the series is just like "Nah, there's no need to try and win me over, Naruto. This is it for me. Hashirama, I'll see you on the other side. Piece out fuckers." XD
Remember when Madara said they can never be peace with hashirama, but goes ahead anyway to create konoha, which later reveals he just left to die and eventually a civil war between uchiha clan and the rest of konoha was bound forcing Itachi to kill everyone along side obito? Yeah. Madara was right.
@@furyberserk the worst part is we dont know if the entire uchiha clan was about the civil war I mean were told that were but we never saw any animosity
@@michaelortiz1561 While Kishimoto only had a few lines about it IIRC, I'm pretty sure the extreme tension goes back to Kurama's attack. The elders and Danzo had falsely speculated that the other Uchiha had helped Obito which led to further pressure on the entire clan.
that villain exists. his name is deidara. only his version of "peace fuckers, see you in hell" was turning himself into a nuke going "i don't even care if i take you with me or not, i'm so happy i get to use this one".
Is there a character stronger than Madara Uchiha? And I’m referring to Rinne Tensei Madara Uchiha with the Eternal Mangekyou Sharingan and Rinnegan doujutsus (with the rikidou paths ability) equipped with his Gunbai and control of the juubi and Gedou Mazou, a complete Susano’o, with Hashirama Senju’s DNA implanted in his chest so he can perform Mokuton kekkei genkai and yin-yang release ninjutsu as well as being extremely skilled in taijutsu and bukijutsu. Is there a character that could even possibly EVEN TOUCH Madara Uchiha? Let alone defeat him. And I’m not talking about Edo Tensei Uchiha Madara. I’m not talking about Gedou Rinne Tensei Uchiha Madara either. Hell, I’m not even talking about Juubi Jinchuuriki Gedou Rinne Tensei Uchiha Madara with the Eternal Mangekyou Sharingan and Rinnegan doujutsus (with the rikodou abilities and being capable of both Amateratsu and Tsukuyomi genjutsu), equipped with his Gunbai, a perfect Susano’o, control of the juubi and Gedou Mazou, with Hashirama Senju’s DNA implanted in him so he has mokuton kekkei genkai and can perform yin yang release ninjutsu while being an expert in kenjutsu and taijutsu. I’m also not talking about Kono Yo no Kyūseishu Futarime no Rikudō Juubi Jinchuuriki Gedou Rinne Tensei Uchiha Madara with the Eternal Mangekyou Sharingan (which is capable of Enton Amaterasu, Izanagi, Izanami and the Tsyukuyomi Genjutsu), his two original Rinnegan (which grant him Chikushōdō, Shuradō, Tendō, Ningendō, Jigokudō, Gakidō, Gedō, Banshō Ten’in, Chibaku Tensei, Shinra Tensei, Tengai Shinsei and Banbutsu Sōzō) and a third Tomoe Rinnegan on his forehead, capable of using Katon, Fūton, Raiton, Doton, Suiton, Mokuton, Ranton, Inton, Yōton and even Onmyōton Jutsu, equipped with his Gunbai(capable of using Uchihagaeshi) and a Shakujō because he is a master in kenjutsu and taijutsu, a perfect Susano’o (that can use Yasaka no Magatama ), control of both the Juubi and the Gedou Mazou, with Hashirama Senju’s DNA and face implanted on his chest, his four Rinbo Hengoku Clones guarding him and nine Gudōdama floating behind him AFTER he absorbed Senjutsu from the First Hokage, entered Rikudō Senjutsu Mode, cast Mugen Tsukuyomi on everybody and used Shin: Jukai Kōtan so he can use their Chakra while they are under Genjutsu. I’m definitely NOT Talking about sagemode sage of the six paths Juubi Jinchuuriki Gedou Rinne Tensei Super Saiyan 4 Uchiha Madara with the Eternal Mangekyou Sharingan, Rinnegan, Mystic Eyes of Death Perception, and Geass doujutsus, equipped with Shining Trapezohedron while casting Super Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann as his Susanoo, controlling the Gold Experience Requiem stand, having become the original vampire after Alucard, able to tap into the speedforce, wearing the Kamen Rider Black RX suit and Gedou Mazou, with Hashirama Senju’s DNA implanted in him so he has mokuton kekkei genkai and can perform yin yang release ninjutsu while being an expert in kenjutsu and taijutsu and having eaten Popeye’s spinach. I’m talking about sagemode sage of the six paths Juubi Jinchuuriki Gedou Rinne Tensei Legendary Super Saiyan 4 Uchiha Madara with the Eternal Mangekyou Sharingan, Rinnegan, Mystic Eyes of Death Perception, and Geass doujutsus, equipped with his Shining Trapezohedron while casting Super Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann as his Susanoo, controlling the Gold Experience Requiem stand, having become the original vampire after having absorbed Alucard as well as a God Hand, able to tap into the speedforce, wearing the Kamen Rider Black RX suit, with Kryptonian DNA implanted in him and having eaten Popeye’s spinach while possessing quantum powers like Dr. Manhattan and having mastered Hokuto Shinken.
Naruto is about hard work and guts and how with enough practice, you too can rise above the obstacles and become great, until it isn't and it's about having the good blood and how awesome generational wealth and eugenics are. It's essentially the Star Wars sequels.
Karan Harsh Wardhan Exactly. Hard work can put you apart from your peers, but in the greater context birthright ends up being the end-all be-all because of social bullshit. Be as talented or determined as you want, but without the social structure and mobility to let you put it work, you may as well not have it in the first place.
@@malikoniousjoe I wouldn't have been bothered by that if that's how it was from the start. In MHA, it's kind of like that anyway, it's why characters like Todoroki and future kids will be much more powerful, but at least we don't have Deku going around telling others that they're wrong and that the world only functions in the way he sees it.
Woolie talking about the fucking new shadowy figure shit is hilarious to me because by endgame the real mastermind playing everyone for suckers was Black Zetsu, who is literally nothing BUT a shadowy figure.
One of the things the series never brings up and I'm honestly surprised it doesn't because it probably would have been one hell of a Character moment... How come Rin never got revived during the Ninja War? I could see Obito telling Kabuto not to do it, but if Obito outright knows the technique how come he never did it before hand even during an period of intense grief. The dead can revive with full consciousness/identity in this series and at one point Madara outright gets fully revived so why not just do that for Rin... it doesn't even have to be something that "fixes" Obito, it could have even been a greater catalyst for his insanity, having the "real Rin" call him out on his bullshit and he just reject the truth being unable to overcome his emotions of revenge thinking Rin's pleas of desperation were just that of a naive child.Just saying the whole "death" aspect of the series seems inconsequential when sentient zombies are a known thing. Then again it's kind of sad that as outside of I think the one time Zabuza re-fought Kakashi and Garaa meeting his father, this whole revival of the dead barely had any character moments (excusing anime filler of course).
Because I think the idea was that Obito didn't even care about Rin at that point in the story. Her death was basically just the catalyst to "Welp, gotta trap everyone in the Gurren Lagann dream dimension now"
Obito could've been a cool nihilist antagonist, a good critique on woohoo children in the military magic wacky time. If they didnt shove his childhood crush down your throat at every possible flashback. "But how else are we gonna get nart to redeem big bag man who is just nart?" FUCKING DONT MAYBE?
it makes me really happy to hear Woolie discovering why everyone hates naruto now fun fact: the mongekyou rinne sharingan ain't shit! the ALIENS have even BETTER EYES! THE BETTEREST EYES THAT CAN SEE THE INFINITY
As someone who has only experienced Naruto by being told about it, it really sounds like the creator uses good ideas as training wheels then teaches himself to use the mediocrecycle.
Naruto part 1 is similar to My Hero Academia or Harry Potter in its academy setting and school-like plot. The problem is, the story then dissolves into rivalry between two characters who are the be all and end all of the franchise. At in least MHA and HP it’s not a Midoriya and Bakugo or Harry and Draco fighting it out as the centre of the universe.
Heroes can't kill this impossible threat. A new threat comes in that kills said impossible threat. Heroes kill the new threat that killed the previous unkillable threat. *CONSISTENCY*
"There was a portion of cool shit and it was always being enveloped in garbage," If that doesn't sum up my feelings for Naruto after the Pain Arc, I don't know what does.
One of the main issues with Naruto is that outside of all of the wacky bullshit with aliens and chosen ones and stuff, you know things that you wouldn't expect to be in any series like this since there's no setup to it, the story is incredibly predictable. Everyone knew Tobi was Obito as soon as they saw his sharigan, everyone knew the series would end with Naruto fighting and beating Sasuke because of how the first half ended and that wouldn't be so bad if the story didn't drag out getting to those points. Naruto reeks of a story where the publisher artificially dragged it out to wring as much money out of it as possible, so Kishimoto had to keep adding new elements and trying to tie them in to things that were actually supposed to happen to the point that it became over-bloated and burnt him out so when he was finally given the okay to end the series, he gave up on the story entirely did the Naruto/Sasuke fight and cut out. I'd honestly not be surprised if we found out Kishimoto made a deal where he could end Naruto so long as he set-up suspiciously similar children of the main characters to make into a spin-off he wouldn't have to work on.
It also doesn’t help that attack on titan doesn’t have the dragging out problem naruto did because that author was smart and thought in advance also the anime doesn’t really have filler because they take breaks let the manga catch up etc
Except Ino was as much of a dumbass as Sakura was. She also wanted that Uchiha dick and when she couldn't, she had to settle for the guy who looked like Sasuke. The only difference is that she wasn't flat.
@@HandlesSuck123 The fact she was able to get over emo chokelord and fall in love with a guy who actually showed her compassion makes a trillions of times better than Sakura bud.
Woolie. Every overpowerd character in Naruto are basically test tube babys they get injected with litteral syringes to boost. Sasuke gets bitten gets powerd up. Sasuke gains a litteral eye from his bro gets powerd up. Naruto saps power from a magical fox. Naruto gains a giant toad as assist gains frog eye. Madara has been underground for years wakes up suddenly knows every goddamn technique developed while he was underground because he was getting juiced.
This is one of the best, most free psychoanalysis bonanzas on the internet, today. A hyper-deep analysis of media, one's initial and deprecated commitment thereto, the disillusionment of formative memories, and the critiques of the creator themselves. Woolie really went over a developmental hump by finding closure.
TO THIS DAY I don't understand why kishimoto changed madara for kaguya as the final big threat.It was a perfect way to end up the series.Madara uchiha was the character that saved the final arc of shippuden and that's what kept me going to the end.
big detail that woolie is missing here: Kaguya does not just show up. When Obito tries to hand-stab Madara, Black Zetsu forcefully turns Madara into Kaguya and therefore reincarnating her ala Orochimaru with his curse mark shit. Madara is effectively deleted from the story moving forward.
@@diegomedina9637 More like (as Woolie said) Naruto going "Obito wanted to be Hokage so he's the coolest dude!" Forgetting the fact that this man was responsible for his parent's death, his childhood trauma, the death of his friend (Neji), the death of countless ninjas not even a few hours before, the deaths of his friends' parents (Ino's and Shiakamaru's), the capture and murder of his fellow jinchuurikis, any and all atrocities the Akatsuki commited, he killed the Mizukage at some point I believe and turned him into a puppet and inciting a global war to create the Matrix. I apologize if I missed anything.
@@Way_of_Tomoe The problem is how they setup the villians back stories to be the excuse for their misdeeds but accidentally starts sympathizing with their excuses. "Oh no my best friend died and that sucks... time to kill everyone elses best friends now." "I can relate!" Says the script.
To be fair, at least Obito got redemption, Sasuke and Orochimaru are absolute shit heels who don't get so much as a slap on the wrist for their crimes.
You also forgot to mention that Obito was, confirmably, responsible for the Bloodline Genocide in Water Country. Yeah, he really is the coolest guy, that Hitler dude.
Which reminds me, did Sasuke's grandparents really need to die? They probably didn't have Sharingan, were non-combatants, and weren't having kids anytime soon. There's literally no downside to not killing them and given how rare Sharingan is supposed to be in the Uchiha, there are probably others in the clan who fit that description.
"Some say heresy is like a tree, its roots hide in the shadows while the trunk stays in the sun; one can cut the branches, even level it to the ground, but it will regrow again ever stronger"
I remember reading a proposal for a fix to the Ninja War that would've made it somewhat more interesting. First, no Obito or Madara. Tobi is just some dude from one of the smaller villages that worked his ass off to achieve his level of power. He unites the lower villages under the banner of being fed up of dealing with the 5 greater villages' shit and having to clean up after their devestation with no help from them. So that would mean no white Zetsu army, no Edo Tensei, no moon princess aliens. Naruto has to fight and kill people who are wholly justified in their anger and conviction. It's not perfect, but I like it so much more than what we got.
@@HandlesSuck123 The thing is, those things arent bad concepts to write about and explore. His execution was just God awful. But I think he stopped caring by that point.
@@machine1685 It's not just that though, it's the fact that he started with one concept at the beginning, then did a 180, and ended up with the complete opposite in the end. It made Naruto look like a fool and a hypocrite. Not only was it badly executed, it was also badly planned.
They couldn't kill Madara because he had all that shit going for him and also knew how to use it. Black Zetsu ganked him by surprise in a way that doesn't really make sense so he could revive Kaguya using Madara as a sacrifice. The good guys were able to beat Kaguya because she was insane and had no idea how to do shit about fuck and was just throwing ass loads of power around. Madara was a super soldier, Kaguya was just a monster. It's all shit.
Naruto was unironically never about hard work always paying off and just being all you need, even in the Chuunin Exam. People just saw Rock Lee and assumed it was in spite of him getting clapped by Gaara, the dude who literally stands still and lets his innate Sand powers take the wheel despite his hard work like an hour later. It's that whole "okay but what do you do when the genius is also working hard on top of his natural ability when you have none" shit, it's why Sasuke hit weightless Lee level taijutsu in like a month of training. It's like people forgot what the Land of Waves arc was about.
Ouch, that's a bit harsh even for Naruto. At least the manga ended with a cool fight (no matter how contrived it was). The same couldn't be said about RoS. The whole finale was just a wet fart.
The only person who id say didnt get redemption and likely wasnt manipulated by madara was Hidan. But hes stuck in a hole forever I guess just forget about the imortal guy
Abdega And Orochimaru would absolutely be willing to be a disciple of Yashin if it meant he could gain immortality and do his experiments for eternity. He literally doesn’t care so long as he will never age or die, but nope. Gotta chase dumb red eye boys for shits and giggles
I’ve come to the conclusion that Naruto would’ve been better if Rock Lee were the main character and it was about him getting around all the other character’s nonsense.
There's a LOT of things that could've made Naruto better. Kishimoto going with his original premise of Naruto being the Kyuubi's son, making the village's distain for him actually make sense. Kishimoto actually being able to write romance in the slightest, making Sakura not a complete waste of time and space. Kishimoto having a plan for the series passed the Wave arc besides "I WANT NARUTO AND SASUKE TO FIGHT, AND SOME KAIJU FIGHTS TOO," So people get the real thematic point of overcoming differences, and not hard work overcoming genetics, which he pulled right out of his ass... Seeing a common thread here.
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“Deep down, genetically, they were a problem.” - Woolie Madden 2020
Woolie the closet fascist strikes again
But the show litterally says that too
Uchiha are genetically predisposed to be edgy and evil.
That's it, that's the lore.
not really
@@warlerker they get emotional but they are not predisposed to be edgy or evil
Woolie unlocked his Mangekyo Sharingan by killing his Nostalgic memories for Naruto.mp4
how tragic.
Zetsu, play Silhouette.
Umm, actually, he only needed to see his nostalgia die for the Mangekyo to activate. It's a common misconception that he needed to do the killing himself, and most certainly not a terrible retcon invented by Minh.
@@francescolombardi3438 Guruguru, play Fighting Dreamers
@@note4note804 right. because you have to kill your buddy and steal their eyes for the eternal mangekyo.
@@Yal_Rathol Woolie and Pat can trade eyeballs, since they both have the same hatred for the Nostalgia.
You can do terrible things but if you say you’re super sorry all will be forgiven, you can train until your bones shatter but you’ll never be better than the guy with the genetic ability to send you to another dimension by looking at you. Truly this was a Naruto Uzumaki.
...so Goku ?
@@BazzBrother Goku actually had a fixit mcguffin and he actually trained for his powers, so no. Not saying that Goku's great, but he's definitely no Naruto.
@@BazzBrother goku was born as the saiyan with the lowest number in all of history, to the point he was comparable to a human, it was his hard work and teacher that made him better, the other saiyans (including vegeta) were either too arrogant to train or didn't understand KI, also goku is a FAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRR better MC than naruto.
Modern Goku is broken, but only because the writing got stale. Back in classic Dragonball and Z he worked his ass off and got the shit kicked out of him. SSJ is when these things got wonky
Hey man,orochi killed a bunch of children and innocent people but he helped that one time a little bit.So that makes it all ok.
“They just let him go”
A phrase that could apply to like three different people
3 is lowballing it too
Oro, Sasuke and?
@@Sigismund697 Kabuto is the other most obvious one.
the worst part of that is that all three of the remaining defectively evil sound ninja struggle with their roles in heroics in the boruto manga from what i hear.
Orochimaru straight up killed the 3rd Hokage and is just forgiven
“He was a pretty cool guy.”
Naruto, on the man who killed his parents.
and nearly killed him multiple times, starting from the day he was born on up.
"If he hadn't killed my parents, I wouldn't be the protagonist, dattebayo!"
And tons of other people including but not limited to all of Akatsuki, the rain village and every single person who died on a war started because his 12 year old crush died
The sad thing is, I genuinely like Obito compared to other villains besides Zabuza and Orochimaru. He's the only Uchida who I found relatable and actual sympathetic (besides Itatchi) to an extent. But he did not need a complete 180 redemption that he did not earn or need, his feud, and relationship with Kakashi is compelling if he died in Kakashi's arms Vader Luke style, sure fine. But forcing a situation where Obito switches sides and Naruto forgives him as easily as fuckface Sasuke is stupid.
I can't help but recall how Sansa was all, "All that bad shit that happened to me made me who I am today. No need to apologize, Little Finger."
bad parenting no jutsu is a time honored tradition passed on from the greatest ninja ways of learning
People bitch and joke about Goku being a bad neglectful father, but compared to daddy Sasuke, Goku is fucking Mufasa. Sasuke literally tries to kill his own daughter Sarada when he meets her because he didn't bother to carry a photo of her or find out what she looks like. If Kishmoto had balls he would've killed this emo dick long ago.
"It's like poetry, it rhymes"
And then Kishimoto proceeded to write the same rhyme. Forever.
Ye
It's like the "All work and no play..." scene from the Shining.
As a fan, it certainly felt like a human boot, stomping down on my face.
But Samurai 8 got axed early lol.
@@ZanzibarJunker ah yeah that was a thing wasn't?
Was it that bad?
I have gotten so much entertainment out of Naruto over the years and I've never even seen an episode of it.
Same man i just watch some scenes they talk about and thats it
It **really is** the Dumbest! Bleach and Gundam get pretty close in parts, but Naruto is the marathon winner japanese equivalent Mark Millar, Uwe Boll, David Cage, and, Rob Liefeld all being wrapped into one series without any of the beneficial elements a Tommy Wiseau would inject
listen. i finished the naruto manga. i didn't enjoy the last few years, but i'm glad i did it.
because now i can come down from the mountain with the stone tablets for all of you, and inform that yamato, a major character who was being used as a monster factory to produce the white zetsus that obito used for his army, was kidnapped at the start of the ninja war and was just never rescued. he appears in the epilogue unharmed, but the series literally forgot he existed and nobody ever saved him.
I haven't watched any of it since Pain died and I feel the same
@@Yal_Rathol they captured him?
By the end of Naruto, Neji isn't just spinning in his grave. His corpse is doing a full on Kaiten
its how borutos world is so advanced
grave spinning neji is a source of limitless energy
Fang over fang!
His grave entered the realm of his divinity.
Neji achieves the Golden Spiral and Infinite Rotation within his own grave.
Nah, he's doing Eight Trigrams: Palm Rotation.
Naruto talking to Obito, the man who killed Naruto's parents, was apart of a genocide, murdered children, and is the biggest simp in all of anime: "I think you're kinda cool"
"Welp, cool guy is dead. Time to rebuild the village with my genocidal ticking bomb of a friend and snake Joseph Mengele."
Neji must have been rolling in his grave when that happened
Well that just sounds like humanity in a nutshell if you think about. Too stupid to see the obvious problem but gullible enough to give a handjob to said problem. So I say bravo!!! 10 out of 10
@The nobody shit isn't fucking funny oh you're talking crazy, because even I know I'm a bit stupid. So don't go assume shit, that makes an ass out of me and mostly you lol.
You don't have to be smart to see the similarities, or the symbolism that people put into their work that gravitates towards real life.
@@victormanyeruke9997 *palm rotating in his grave
The fact that Orochimaru did not end up in chains somewhere deep underground by the end is absurd to me.
he's not only not in chains, he's continuing his experiments. the albino kid on boruto's team is orochimaru's test tube baby, and orochimaru is wearing a new skinsuit when we see him, meaning he's still doing his body-snatcher/immortality thing.
The hee hee man will keep kidnapping people and reporting his experiment results to Nardo
Fuck that, he could still potentially escape confinement. Set the dude on fire with Amaterasu, trap him inside the Kamui, and leave him in that pocket dimension, writhing in flames for 15 years then bring the corpse out and disintegrate it on the molecular level Tsuchikage style. With how many times Orochimaru has survived deadly attacks, I say take no fuckin chances with that creep.
"Don't worry, Yamato will handle it."
He's basically the Joseph Mengele of the naruto universe
In the end, all that matter is that Hiashi got that perfect eugenics baby for the glory of the Hyuga.
He also got Boruto, but let's put that aside for now.
All according to Hiashi Hyuga’s Keikaku,
Bonus! An Uchiha might marry Bort so his Keikaku continues
@@Abdega Hiashi Will get his Triringan he made sure if that.
ALL PRAISE THE PLAN
That's why, when you see him interact with Boruto and Hiwarimi in the Bort anime, he's all happy and proud grandpa. Those are the fruits of his labour right there.
FOR THE BLOODLINE!
Hashirama Cells, son!
They harden in response to physical plotholes
DONT FUCK WITH THIS SHINOBI! *Field goal kicks Tsunade*
YOU CANT HURT ME JACK!
I think my biggest problem with this show is how everything needs to be a parallel to Naruto's own life, or else he won't be able to relate to it. From about 90% of the antagonists, to a handful of side characters, everyone needs to have had a sad childhood, or have been mistreated, or have experienced loss, or all three at once. And when that happens, all the horrible shit you've done regardless of context or impact just gets swept under the rug. Who cares that you started Ninja ISIS and hunted people down like animals because they had demons sealed inside of them, all because your friend died? It's fiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiine.
What's extra bullshit, is how Naruto could've flipped the script on them and call them out on their flimsy excuses. He could've said "This village was treating me like crap ever since I first rode that swing, and I'm still doing the right thing, what your FUCKING excuse!?"
@@BossEvasion Probably because 99% of conflicts would have been resolved and wE cAn't HaVe ThAt In A lOnG rUnNiNg ShOuNeN.
@@BossEvasion He does though? most of his "talk no jutsu" moments have some sort of "i was treated like trash my entire life" part to it.
JoJones It's like how every villain Batman ever fights was responsible for killing his parents
What is really bad about it is all these characters having sad stories could work, their ninja literally trained from childhood to be killers and assassins so of course they wouldnt be well adjusted but I mean come on
Say what you will, but you'll never get me to hate the part where Madara goes, "oh, cool. You stopped the meteor. What you gonna do about the second meteor? Lol."
Oh, nobody’s denying that there aren’t great moments, again Guy kicks Madara the hardest anyone’s ever kicked someone, but moments can’t save the overall badly written narrative
@@malikoniousjoe You basically just explained everyone (sensible)’s opinion on Naruto. Story sucks, but these specific things are the fucking coolest things to see.
@@StellaStarfall Nah most of the story of Naruto is pretty good.
If it wasn't for the fact the "what you are given at birth doesn't matter" lesson wasn't complete bullshit; the story would have been basically perfect. Naruto should have been some rando that Minato had to use to seal 9 tails and that's it. Even that is too much honestly@@Jdudec367
might guy being called the greatest taijutsu ninja ever by moon man or whatever the fuck makes the rest of it worth it
almost
That just makes it sadder because we missed out on a way better version of this shit show where Rock Lee was the protagonist. Imagine all this god shit going on and our main character still only has punches but he's just doing it super hard and super fast and ends the story as a cripple but God damn did he fuck everyone up along the way.
Daniel Young
I can imagine Neji’s face when Lee punches down Kaguya and sets himself up as Kage of all the Kages in the Ninja world.
I hope 10 years from now people go "Kishimoto always wanted to end it after the Zubuza arc"
Honestly, Pain/Itachi's death would have been a decent place to stop. Lol
@@tailedgates9 Honestly the Pain arc would've been the perfect ending for Naruto if not for the yet unresolved Sasuke storyline.
@@Darkyan97 About that. Yeah, how about Sasuke learns that his brother did what was best for him and Sasuke DOESNT become a shit and decides to protect the village like his brother wanted? Lol Sure it would have been a wasted journey for revenge but at least we wouldn't have Sasukes downward spiral only to be forgiven in the end.....
@@tailedgates9 100% agree.
But hey, it could have been worse as well.
Imagine vs Kaguya being the very last fight of the series.
@@tailedgates9 Nah, you can't have sasuke just ignore Danzo and the leaf elders caused his family to die
That's almost as bad as naruto just forgiving obito
Remember when this a series about a misfit kid cursed with something out of his control that made everyone around him hate him so he worked hard with his own power he earned to overcome and even make use of his failings and weaknesses just so he could be liked and respected by his peers, and the friends he made along they way were all also misfits he won over through his own actions, hard-work, and compassion in the face of a world looking down on him who never expected anything from him or cut him any slack?
Yeah me neither.
Good thing it wasn’t that in the first place
@@kmoney890 It definitely was. Might not have been what was intended, but it's definitely what was produced.
Too bad all that does happen because Naruto literally trains and works the entirety of the series the only power up naruto didn't train for was the sage of six paths upgrade.
Jordan Barkley If you ignore the way Naruto constantly stressed bonds, connections, the formation, and destruction of them.
Too many people conflate Naruto’s plot hooks and storytelling with its actual themes and what it was. If I hear another person tell me naruto is about hard work I’m going to kill myself in Minecraft
@@kmoney890 The thing is you're only half right, because saying hard work was never important core theme to Naruto from the VERY BEGINNING is straight up intellectually dishonest. The entire first half of series has that idea caked into almost every crevase. The problem isn't that one of these ideas(hard work and bonds) isn't a main focus, it's that one basically cannibalizes the other to the tune of very poor conceived plotting, kneecapping one message of the series to the point of contradiction and overstating the other to the point of ridiculousness.
So yes, you are right, bonds and friendship are a core part of the series, but they are done very poorly and at the expense of the other core theme that IS hard work and determination.
Might guy moving physically fast enough to warp space was amazing
Not to mention him fucking RUNNING SO HARD HE WAS FLYING..
@@li-limandragon9287 that looks like Sanji jumped really high. Might Guy was running on air like a staircase and distorting space-time.
And it's sad because you are super right. If Might Guy would have beat Madara and ended everything for everybody, he would have been the living proof that the initial message of the series was right and that hard work and tenacity surpasses any and all birthrights. Sure some people would be upset, but I think having that one change would probably have Naruto seen as a flawed masterpiece, because Kishimoto would have spent over a decade building up all these prophecies and birthrights only to knock it all down at the end to reinforce the original message of the manga. It would have been seen as a stroke of genius for some people.
Man, woolie getting hype makes me think of the best timeline. Might Guy and Rock Lee both open the 8 gates, and wreck Madara so hard that they get statues in the leaf village and are finally recognized as the most legit Ninja in the show
And orange deku and Susan just exploded
@@sinsoftheswamp8346
I think you mean Orange Bakugo
The Hyuuga Eugenics meme has to be the strongest thing to ever come out of Naruto.
spoken like a man who hasn't visited the naruto tag on any doujin sites.
@@Yal_Rathol Hopefully it's the "netorare" tag.
@@elneco4654 ONly when it involves Sasuke
Unending serial stories either become sitcoms over time like Dragon Ball, or begin falling in on themselves by straining their premise and cannibalizing their own themes and history to keep chugging along.
Sometimes the shonen jump structure isn't very healthy for stories.....Lol
It's not just Chinese cartoons that do this. Any serious-toned TV show that outlives its freshness ends up this way. Examples include X-Files and Supernatural.
@@KAPTAINmORGANnWo4eva and Walking Dead
Surprisingly one piece has not hit this wall.
@@sonicboomers122 its because one piece isnt written month by month oda has an ending planned out , plus it's an adventure anime/manga so it can be stretched out easier
Letting Sasuke, the guy who tried to murder the war criminal world leaders go is one thing.
But letting Orochimaru, the man who created factories to produce children so he could hollow out said children in order to always be young just run around with your children is another thing.
And Naruto invited Orochimaru to his wedding. That blows my F'N mind.
The n-word pass discussion and plus some Naruto stuff...
This has to be probably one of my favorite podcast next to Pat Woolie talking about weed
Everbrown Content and Theme of Womb Explosion by Ludwig tho.
One would almost forget this was a video game news podcast at one point.
The N stood for Naruto all along
@@zigmus00A Hard-r Naruto
@@sleepythemis @zigmus00A I just cackled loud as hell plz stop lol
Going to assume we're not gonna see Woolie do the Bort DLC anytime soon
He really doesn't need to if he doesn't want to I won't blame him even with how much I enjoy him taking the piss out of and ranting about the dumb stuff in this franchise
@@kyero8724 I imagine some of those samurai at the kage summit were good people
I give him 6 months before he wants back in
@@shenanigans8353 They were guards, they knew what they signed up for
Ehh just have him watch the movie and call it a day
Woolie should probably avoid reading those interviews with Kishimoto explaining his plot decisions if he wants to preserve any sense of respect for the man. Cause boy, hearing his explanations really convinced me that he is a mediocre to bad writer if he doesn't have an editor smacking him every other chapter.
Yo, post some of them here, so we can see how bad it can get.
It can't be that bad, can it?
@@knightornstein5902 He says that he hates Sakura because she's poorly written...he's the goddamn author! He's literally hating her because he's a shit writer!
Off the top of my head, Neji died so that Naruto could get with Hinata, Sakura changing her crush from Sasuke would make her a "bad woman," Edo Tensei and White Zetsu army happened because he backed himself into a corner with talk no jutsu, the 4th hokage was originally a ninja dog and he thought he could make people like Sakura more if he drew her more beautiful.
@@jadedragon216 every single part of this manga is garbage!!!
For all the many many problems with Naruto, I'm happy that it gave us the Hyuuga Eugenics Plan and the Madara Copypasta. That makes it all worth it.
And the Madara faces,
It was all worth it for the memes is essentially what you're saying
Katagara Wait can you link the Madara copy pasta? I know the Hyuuga Eugenics, but this is a new one
@@malikoniousjoe Is there a character that could even possibly EVEN TOUCH Madara Uchiha? Let alone defeat him. And I'm not talking about Edo Tensei Uchiha Madara. I'm not talking about Gedou Rinne Tensei Uchiha Madara either. Hell, I'm not even talking about Juubi Jinchuuriki Gedou Rinne Tensei Uchiha Madara with the Eternal Mangekyou Sharingan and Rinnegan doujutsus (with the rikodou abilities and being capable of both Amateratsu and Tsukuyomi genjutsu), equipped with his Gunbai, a perfect Susano'o, control of the juubi and Gedou Mazou, with Hashirama Senju's DNA implanted in him so he has mokuton kekkei genkai and can perform yin yang release ninjutsu while being an expert in kenjutsu and taijutsu.
And the hall of anal devastation
I like to think that Naruto and Hinata have really uncomfortable arguments about Obito.
God you're probably right. Lol Like dude, your brother in law/your wife's half brother/your children's uncle is dead because of this asshole who couldn't accept the fact that his childhood crush died. XD
@@tailedgates9 Uncle? Obito is totally responsible for the death of Naruto's parents. He's the reason Naruto's kids only have one grandparent
@@fenris5932 Yeah, I just meant in relation to Hinata since that argument would get really heated really fast. Lol
@@tailedgates9 I honestly just assume that Hinata is still overjoyed that Naruto finally got the message without her having to straight up jump on his dick. Also I doubt Naruto brings Obito up that often
That's the actual reason why Naruto is barely at home in the sequel. The moment Hinata found out what he said the nights became a lot colder.
24:20 I like how Woolie was shitting on fan fictions as a concept a few weeks ago and now realizes he wants to make his own Naruto fan fiction.
If the birth of a fan fiction is to make right the good things that are already there, it means more that a simple what if bullshit.
It still the energy of “this thing is dumb and cringe until I decide to do it, then it’s cool.” It’s just funny how they spent plenty of time shitting on fan fiction as a concept only for Woolie to find a situation where he likes it
Anything Naruto related from this point on is going to just be Woolie talking about his fanfiction.
My Naruto fan fiction is just Lee green beasting over everyone and then boning Tenten like there’s no tomorrow.
That's how it always is, man. Everyone thinks it's all bullshit til they realize "Wait, I can make - insert franchise here -, sans - insert shitty writer under intense pressure from publishers here -! I can _right the wrongs!"_ One hell of a powertrip, tell you that for free. One day I wanted to read some cringey schlock for the yucks, next thing I know I'm a third eye opened Rikudou Sennin on Naruto trivia and fanfiction.
Imagine if Naruto's story went as it went, except Guy defeated Madara. The Moon lady and everything else happened, but Madara got kicked to death.
Imagine if Rock Lee was the protagonist and they just combined Naruto and Sasuke together to be the rival. The show would be a billion times more interesting.
Guy was robbed of that victory, man!
@@danielyoung6778
So My Hero Academia?
@@felixdaniels37 maybe I haven't watched a shonen in a decade so I'm not familiar. If so happy days I'm glad the genre isn't absolutely terrible anymore hopefully.
@@danielyoung6778 Rock lee as a protagonist would be boring as fuck.
Not all of them had a sob story. Hidan was just a straight up serial killer. Funny how he got what he deserved but shitty sasuke gets off scott free.
Hell, Kisame strikes a perfect balance where its revealed that he was sort of unhinged from day 1 but found a friend in Itachi. And goes out like a true ninja. RIP best fish boy.
@@tailedgates9 I wouldnt say unhinged he just did his fucking job lol
Hidan got what he deserved because Shikamaru does not believe in Talk-No-Jutsu. He is more adept in Bury-Your-Ass-Underground-Forever-Jutsu.
But he didnt feel sorry tho, so he died in a grave.
@Big Daddy Yes what he actually DID may be small but his intentions were to murder several of his old friends and allies as well as kill all the major world leaders.
"How does it feel to have lived long enough to see all your favourite franchises go down in flames?"
Feels great!
Naruto's author is basically a D&D DM who has managed to derail his own campaign and is just throwing tarasques at his players out of spite.
He also fudges thier bad rolls.
I'm kind of glad for the botching of Naruto it prepared me for all the other disappointments in franchises to come.
Damn. I feel that, bro.
And the still to this day heated divide between the fanbase over whether or not it's a botch at all gave us a hint for things to come
Kinda the same for me, but it's also made it hard to want to get into ongoing series.
yeah, that last saga of bleach tainted me why the fucking rage of disappointment
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21:17
I love how Pat grabs his Elmo Shield to protect himself halfway through :3
You know, it was great seeing this happen in real time all these years ago. Seeing people who actually enjoyed the series slowly losing their souls each week was glorious
Neji is doing rotations in his casket while screaming I KNEW IT
Finally we get down to brass tacks and talk seriously about the REAL N-word, "Naruto."
START KICKING THE TREE. NEVER STOP KICKING THE TREE.
Now it’s time for Woolie to watch a good anime. -Eyepatch Wolf
*HxH intensifies*
Time for Japan to actually produce one then ...and not just a single Season, like an entire 5-year run with *consistency* in meeting a bare minimum standard every season
@@iller3 How often does any country manage that?
SEW: I know you recognize Gon’s Voice Woolie!
The problem is... There is no good anime, all of them are trash but in different categories of trash.
"they just let him go"
Which one of the terrible war criminals was Pat talking about :>
All of them but I think in this case it's the snake one.
friendly neighborhood mengele.
Madara: was killed by his own Hubris/Kaguya so he doesn't pay for anything he's caused.
Obito: is kakashi's bff who's only responsible for the deaths of countless civilian lives.
Pain: had good intentions so it's cool that he killed everyone in the Hidden Leaf
Sasuke: it's genetics lol
Orochimaru: 😳
Kabuto: Put in Requiem no Jutsu so he’s cool now
@@howiewong7057 and running an orphanage.
he's still a horrific snake-monster man who experimented on children by the way, that didn't change nor did he express sorrow for it. but he's running an orphanage now. nothing can go wrong!
This is the one where kids in tracksuits run around with their arms stretched out behind them and learning the power of friendship right
yup
Kishimoto just said segregation is the way.
Uchihas gotta sit in the back of the bus.
Naruto universe: everyone looks like one of their parents
Boruto universe: everyone looks like a mashup of their parents
Boruto supports interracial confirmed!
2nd hokage: I'm gonna build a wall around konoha and the uchihas are gonna pay for it
Tobirama "If the eyes glow red, a kunai to the head" Senju was right. The narrative tried to prove him wrong, and then it tripped into a dark alley where those damn dirty Uchiha proceeded to mug it for all it had.
Imagine trying to make a character look like the bad guy and then proving him right as hard as possible, without meaning to.
Which is funny since outside of being told they uchihas were upset we never really saw what the majority of the clan felt about the village I mean it wasnt like they were stuck in a ghetto they had their own section of the village just like all the other major clans the whole segregation thing is just poorly written
The 2nd Hokage hearing what Itachi did: “I mean, it’s a tragedy and all. All those Uchihas getting cut down by a rouge Anbu agent, but a lot of people get killed by Anbu all the time. So I guess I’m saying, all lives matter. You know?”
Tobirama and Wakka would get along well
Bruddha
"Gonorrhea is better than Uchida"
-Tobirama
Better dead than Al Bhed.
Wollie "deep down genetically they were a problem" Madden - 2020
Woolie « I’m part Hitler » Madden
Woolie was the real Grand Wiz Wakka all the time.
Woolie THE RACE WAR STARTS NOW Madden but if we’re really honest, dem Al-Bheds and Uchihas needed to go.
Neji spinning in his grave but still cannot deflect these pieces of wood.
He was right all along. The real tragedy of the series.
Why Woolie out here lookin’ like Baymax with that sweater 🤣😂
Alleyah Brown we skipped over the haircut too? My boy looking like Lil Bay with the mixtape named “Hi, I am Baymax.”😂
Does that make Mihn Minimax?
I used to think woolie's boxing fitness had no effect but now that he's stopped I see the effect lol
deidara is the best villain in naruto because deidara is completely unrepentant. he wants to blow things up with clay-magic/plastic-explosives and you are a thing.
deidara's last moment alive isn't even him being sorry, it's him going "fucking finally, finally i can use THE BIG ONE! YES! HALLELUJAH, THANK YOU GOD!" then he turns himself into a nuke and tries to atomize sasuke. him being revived as an edo tensei only has him going "i'm alive again? and also immortal? fucking sick, that means i can turn into a nuke as many times as i want!"
every other villain gets watered down into utter nothingness, madara's only notable because of his power, obito apparently did nothing wrong and kaguya's personality consists of the traits "aloof" and "is a space rabbit". at least deidara stood for something and fought for his art to the end.
Imagine if your ex kept stalking you, despite your protests, and was texting you over and over again the same exact stuff Naruto says to Sasuke.
Now I truly understand how creepy that shit is.
I will save you
No wonder Sasuke wanted to be as far away as possible. The people of Konoha were the real antagonists.
Jesus we're back to Neji was right, I'm trapped forever in this time loop
Neji was right and continues to be right.
Tobirama was also right and continues to be right.
There is no escape.
triburst Izanami
you're caught in the infinite tsukuyomi son.
Except he wasn't right
@@ncala No he was never right.
Nope Tobirama was never right either.
There is an escape.
For the most part what was said about the justification syndrome was on point however the Akatsuki did have some proper just evil assholes.
The core problem with Naruto is that the, "Hard work beats everything." concept only works out when the talented people aren't working out just as hard the whole time. Also he gets forgotten because he was the start of the mess that was the Ninja war, but Kabuto and in turn Orochimaru are the embodiment of the flaw. They're literally the people working hard and trying to steal away the special people's powers and making their own, and he gets pretty damn close to succeeding only to get overshadowed and forgotten because of the TRUE MOST SPECIAL.
Kishimoto Will Figure It Out (FINAL)
The fact that there are awesome characters that were exceptions to the Evil Is Genetic rule, and My Nakama Give Me Strength rule, that are swept under the rug is just as frustrating.
Lee and Guy tell genetics to go fuck themselves everyday.
To be fair, Madara didn't need to be talked down and made to feel sorry because of his sad past. He understood his actions and had no intention of allighing himself with the protagonists. He's made his choices and he lives with them. Same thing with Zabuza and Haku. Which makes him being punked out of the story, EVEN WORSE. Lol Imagine if the final villain of the series is just like "Nah, there's no need to try and win me over, Naruto. This is it for me. Hashirama, I'll see you on the other side. Piece out fuckers." XD
Remember when Madara said they can never be peace with hashirama, but goes ahead anyway to create konoha, which later reveals he just left to die and eventually a civil war between uchiha clan and the rest of konoha was bound forcing Itachi to kill everyone along side obito?
Yeah. Madara was right.
@@furyberserk the worst part is we dont know if the entire uchiha clan was about the civil war I mean were told that were but we never saw any animosity
@@michaelortiz1561 While Kishimoto only had a few lines about it IIRC, I'm pretty sure the extreme tension goes back to Kurama's attack. The elders and Danzo had falsely speculated that the other Uchiha had helped Obito which led to further pressure on the entire clan.
that villain exists.
his name is deidara.
only his version of "peace fuckers, see you in hell" was turning himself into a nuke going "i don't even care if i take you with me or not, i'm so happy i get to use this one".
@@Yal_Rathol Yeah but I mean what if we got a villain that ended the SERIES with that. XD
Plague's Naruto video caused so much ass hurt in the naruto youtuber community. It's still felt to this day.😂
Guy opening the 8th gate was cooler than this series deserved
Is there a character stronger than Madara Uchiha? And I’m referring to Rinne Tensei Madara Uchiha with the Eternal Mangekyou Sharingan and Rinnegan doujutsus (with the rikidou paths ability) equipped with his Gunbai and control of the juubi and Gedou Mazou, a complete Susano’o, with Hashirama Senju’s DNA implanted in his chest so he can perform Mokuton kekkei genkai and yin-yang release ninjutsu as well as being extremely skilled in taijutsu and bukijutsu. Is there a character that could even possibly EVEN TOUCH Madara Uchiha? Let alone defeat him. And I’m not talking about Edo Tensei Uchiha Madara. I’m not talking about Gedou Rinne Tensei Uchiha Madara either. Hell, I’m not even talking about Juubi Jinchuuriki Gedou Rinne Tensei Uchiha Madara with the Eternal Mangekyou Sharingan and Rinnegan doujutsus (with the rikodou abilities and being capable of both Amateratsu and Tsukuyomi genjutsu), equipped with his Gunbai, a perfect Susano’o, control of the juubi and Gedou Mazou, with Hashirama Senju’s DNA implanted in him so he has mokuton kekkei genkai and can perform yin yang release ninjutsu while being an expert in kenjutsu and taijutsu. I’m also not talking about Kono Yo no Kyūseishu Futarime no Rikudō Juubi Jinchuuriki Gedou Rinne Tensei Uchiha Madara with the Eternal Mangekyou Sharingan (which is capable of Enton Amaterasu, Izanagi, Izanami and the Tsyukuyomi Genjutsu), his two original Rinnegan (which grant him Chikushōdō, Shuradō, Tendō, Ningendō, Jigokudō, Gakidō, Gedō, Banshō Ten’in, Chibaku Tensei, Shinra Tensei, Tengai Shinsei and Banbutsu Sōzō) and a third Tomoe Rinnegan on his forehead, capable of using Katon, Fūton, Raiton, Doton, Suiton, Mokuton, Ranton, Inton, Yōton and even Onmyōton Jutsu, equipped with his Gunbai(capable of using Uchihagaeshi) and a Shakujō because he is a master in kenjutsu and taijutsu, a perfect Susano’o (that can use Yasaka no Magatama ), control of both the Juubi and the Gedou Mazou, with Hashirama Senju’s DNA and face implanted on his chest, his four Rinbo Hengoku Clones guarding him and nine Gudōdama floating behind him AFTER he absorbed Senjutsu from the First Hokage, entered Rikudō Senjutsu Mode, cast Mugen Tsukuyomi on everybody and used Shin: Jukai Kōtan so he can use their Chakra while they are under Genjutsu. I’m definitely NOT Talking about sagemode sage of the six paths Juubi Jinchuuriki Gedou Rinne Tensei Super Saiyan 4 Uchiha Madara with the Eternal Mangekyou Sharingan, Rinnegan, Mystic Eyes of Death Perception, and Geass doujutsus, equipped with Shining Trapezohedron while casting Super Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann as his Susanoo, controlling the Gold Experience Requiem stand, having become the original vampire after Alucard, able to tap into the speedforce, wearing the Kamen Rider Black RX suit and Gedou Mazou, with Hashirama Senju’s DNA implanted in him so he has mokuton kekkei genkai and can perform yin yang release ninjutsu while being an expert in kenjutsu and taijutsu and having eaten Popeye’s spinach. I’m talking about sagemode sage of the six paths Juubi Jinchuuriki Gedou Rinne Tensei Legendary Super Saiyan 4 Uchiha Madara with the Eternal Mangekyou Sharingan, Rinnegan, Mystic Eyes of Death Perception, and Geass doujutsus, equipped with his Shining Trapezohedron while casting Super Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann as his Susanoo, controlling the Gold Experience Requiem stand, having become the original vampire after having absorbed Alucard as well as a God Hand, able to tap into the speedforce, wearing the Kamen Rider Black RX suit, with Kryptonian DNA implanted in him and having eaten Popeye’s spinach while possessing quantum powers like Dr. Manhattan and having mastered Hokuto Shinken.
Daemonbane
The answer is always Kirby.
Yes
the bunny girl
The Road to -Boruto- Woolie's Emotional Abuse
Unpopular opinion... Boruto is kinda a better series than Naruto ever was.
No one's ever really gone.
Naruto is about hard work and guts and how with enough practice, you too can rise above the obstacles and become great, until it isn't and it's about having the good blood and how awesome generational wealth and eugenics are. It's essentially the Star Wars sequels.
Just like real life - hard work beats talent. Generational talent beats hard work.
Karan Harsh Wardhan Exactly. Hard work can put you apart from your peers, but in the greater context birthright ends up being the end-all be-all because of social bullshit. Be as talented or determined as you want, but without the social structure and mobility to let you put it work, you may as well not have it in the first place.
@@malikoniousjoe I wouldn't have been bothered by that if that's how it was from the start. In MHA, it's kind of like that anyway, it's why characters like Todoroki and future kids will be much more powerful, but at least we don't have Deku going around telling others that they're wrong and that the world only functions in the way he sees it.
Woolie talking about the fucking new shadowy figure shit is hilarious to me because by endgame the real mastermind playing everyone for suckers was Black Zetsu, who is literally nothing BUT a shadowy figure.
This has to be one of my most favorite segments they have ever done.
One of the things the series never brings up and I'm honestly surprised it doesn't because it probably would have been one hell of a Character moment... How come Rin never got revived during the Ninja War? I could see Obito telling Kabuto not to do it, but if Obito outright knows the technique how come he never did it before hand even during an period of intense grief. The dead can revive with full consciousness/identity in this series and at one point Madara outright gets fully revived so why not just do that for Rin... it doesn't even have to be something that "fixes" Obito, it could have even been a greater catalyst for his insanity, having the "real Rin" call him out on his bullshit and he just reject the truth being unable to overcome his emotions of revenge thinking Rin's pleas of desperation were just that of a naive child.Just saying the whole "death" aspect of the series seems inconsequential when sentient zombies are a known thing. Then again it's kind of sad that as outside of I think the one time Zabuza re-fought Kakashi and Garaa meeting his father, this whole revival of the dead barely had any character moments (excusing anime filler of course).
I guess because to Obito, that Rin wouldnt be "Real" Rin because she died
Because I think the idea was that Obito didn't even care about Rin at that point in the story. Her death was basically just the catalyst to "Welp, gotta trap everyone in the Gurren Lagann dream dimension now"
Because it had stopped being about Rin literally decades ago. The story tried to explain that but Woolie was like “ ha ha simp”.
Because he wanted to drag everyone in the world into the same fake happiness, not just himself.
because deep deep down obito knows that Rin doesn't give a wet shit about him, and if he actually heard her say it he'd probably just die.
Obito could've been a cool nihilist antagonist, a good critique on woohoo children in the military magic wacky time. If they didnt shove his childhood crush down your throat at every possible flashback. "But how else are we gonna get nart to redeem big bag man who is just nart?" FUCKING DONT MAYBE?
I don't mind that tried to kill the world over Rin, I mind that he gets forgiven for it.
it makes me really happy to hear Woolie discovering why everyone hates naruto now
fun fact: the mongekyou rinne sharingan ain't shit! the ALIENS have even BETTER EYES! THE BETTEREST EYES THAT CAN SEE THE INFINITY
can they see why kids love the taste of Cinnamon toast crunch?
As someone who has only experienced Naruto by being told about it, it really sounds like the creator uses good ideas as training wheels then teaches himself to use the mediocrecycle.
Naruto part 1 is similar to My Hero Academia or Harry Potter in its academy setting and school-like plot. The problem is, the story then dissolves into rivalry between two characters who are the be all and end all of the franchise.
At in least MHA and HP it’s not a Midoriya and Bakugo or Harry and Draco fighting it out as the centre of the universe.
Heroes can't kill this impossible threat.
A new threat comes in that kills said impossible threat.
Heroes kill the new threat that killed the previous unkillable threat.
*CONSISTENCY*
Did Woolie at least the like the Killer B or Raikage and the Village hidden in the black people.
I really wish I could see Woolie play generations and see his reaction to Killer B rappin, whippin everyone’s ass and making them his backup dancers
Abdega same
Woolie, if you think Kishimoto was bad here then wait till you see Samurai 8.
How bad
@@CykaBlyatAlex One of the main characters is a girl who makes Sakura look like a strong independent well-written character.
@@CykaBlyatAlex The fact it's been already cancelled should say something.
@@artisticcannibalism1350 You would think that kishimoto have learned to write female characters better at this point.
@@BrazillianCara holy shit that was fast.
"There was a portion of cool shit and it was always being enveloped in garbage," If that doesn't sum up my feelings for Naruto after the Pain Arc, I don't know what does.
One of the main issues with Naruto is that outside of all of the wacky bullshit with aliens and chosen ones and stuff, you know things that you wouldn't expect to be in any series like this since there's no setup to it, the story is incredibly predictable. Everyone knew Tobi was Obito as soon as they saw his sharigan, everyone knew the series would end with Naruto fighting and beating Sasuke because of how the first half ended and that wouldn't be so bad if the story didn't drag out getting to those points. Naruto reeks of a story where the publisher artificially dragged it out to wring as much money out of it as possible, so Kishimoto had to keep adding new elements and trying to tie them in to things that were actually supposed to happen to the point that it became over-bloated and burnt him out so when he was finally given the okay to end the series, he gave up on the story entirely did the Naruto/Sasuke fight and cut out. I'd honestly not be surprised if we found out Kishimoto made a deal where he could end Naruto so long as he set-up suspiciously similar children of the main characters to make into a spin-off he wouldn't have to work on.
It also doesn’t help that attack on titan doesn’t have the dragging out problem naruto did because that author was smart and thought in advance also the anime doesn’t really have filler because they take breaks let the manga catch up etc
I've said it for years, if they just made this the InoShikaCho show it would be ten times better.
Shikamaru for Hokage 2020
Mmmm relatable characters
Except Ino was as much of a dumbass as Sakura was. She also wanted that Uchiha dick and when she couldn't, she had to settle for the guy who looked like Sasuke.
The only difference is that she wasn't flat.
@@HandlesSuck123 The fact she was able to get over emo chokelord and fall in love with a guy who actually showed her compassion makes a trillions of times better than Sakura bud.
@@li-limandragon9287 Not really, Sakura still cares for a lot of people too.
Rock Lee and Might Guy are the best characters in the entire series, hands down.
Woolie. Every overpowerd character in Naruto are basically test tube babys they get injected with litteral syringes to boost. Sasuke gets bitten gets powerd up. Sasuke gains a litteral eye from his bro gets powerd up. Naruto saps power from a magical fox. Naruto gains a giant toad as assist gains frog eye. Madara has been underground for years wakes up suddenly knows every goddamn technique developed while he was underground because he was getting juiced.
Sarada (to Sakura): So... Mom... DID YOU KNOW THAT HATRED IS *GENETIC* IN THE UCHIHA LINE?!
Sakura belongs to the streets. Confirmed.
*THE STREETS DON'T WANT HER. WE REJECT THAT TRASH. TAKE IT. BACK.*
Sakura in the streets wants an Uchiha in the sheets!
It is said H*ntais write sakura better than kishimoto.I saw it,it's all true
@@luisalonso959 Sahara Wataru my dudes
@@carlosakatsuki our lord and saviour, giving us the sakura we deserve.
This is one of the best, most free psychoanalysis bonanzas on the internet, today. A hyper-deep analysis of media, one's initial and deprecated commitment thereto, the disillusionment of formative memories, and the critiques of the creator themselves. Woolie really went over a developmental hump by finding closure.
TO THIS DAY I don't understand why kishimoto changed madara for kaguya as the final big threat.It was a perfect way to end up the series.Madara uchiha was the character that saved the final arc of shippuden and that's what kept me going to the end.
I adore his battle hungry personality too. He was such a breath of fresh air. Lol
Kaguya was pure bullshit. Just imagine the shit Kishimoto would've got if he finished the manga without the final Naruto vs Sasuke battle.
Man I hope that one guy animates this one.
big detail that woolie is missing here: Kaguya does not just show up.
When Obito tries to hand-stab Madara, Black Zetsu forcefully turns Madara into Kaguya and therefore reincarnating her ala Orochimaru with his curse mark shit.
Madara is effectively deleted from the story moving forward.
Did Orochimaru ever say any anything on that?
Like “hey, that’s what ive been trying to do!” ?
I love just how smug and anticipatory Pat is for this reaction, in the beginning of this video.
Obito's "redemption" is by far one of the dumbest things I had the pleasure of reading.
I don't even remember it that well. I only remember the "Obito is dead, get sad everybody" moment.
@@diegomedina9637 More like (as Woolie said) Naruto going "Obito wanted to be Hokage so he's the coolest dude!" Forgetting the fact that this man was responsible for his parent's death, his childhood trauma, the death of his friend (Neji), the death of countless ninjas not even a few hours before, the deaths of his friends' parents (Ino's and Shiakamaru's), the capture and murder of his fellow jinchuurikis, any and all atrocities the Akatsuki commited, he killed the Mizukage at some point I believe and turned him into a puppet and inciting a global war to create the Matrix. I apologize if I missed anything.
@@Way_of_Tomoe Yup... That sounds about alright.
@@Way_of_Tomoe The problem is how they setup the villians back stories to be the excuse for their misdeeds but accidentally starts sympathizing with their excuses. "Oh no my best friend died and that sucks... time to kill everyone elses best friends now." "I can relate!" Says the script.
To be fair, at least Obito got redemption, Sasuke and Orochimaru are absolute shit heels who don't get so much as a slap on the wrist for their crimes.
"Who can beat Madara?"
Aizen.
They’d be best friends and you know it!
Why would you do this to us, why would you remind us?
Aizen is a great character
@@AncelDeLambert because bleach ended at mugetsu.
Aizen did nothing wrong and accomplished all of his objectives except replace the spirit king with himself
Decades of hype die with barely a whisper.
Hopefully, Woolie never touches Seven Deadly Sins for his own good.
Woolie finally learns that Naruto is the real hard R n-word.
Don't forget the fact that Night Guy distorts space from sheer speed, making it impossible to avoid
You also forgot to mention that Obito was, confirmably, responsible for the Bloodline Genocide in Water Country. Yeah, he really is the coolest guy, that Hitler dude.
Kishimoto should have taken a page from his senpai Togashi and taken some hiatuses to think things through. lol
Which reminds me, did Sasuke's grandparents really need to die? They probably didn't have Sharingan, were non-combatants, and weren't having kids anytime soon. There's literally no downside to not killing them and given how rare Sharingan is supposed to be in the Uchiha, there are probably others in the clan who fit that description.
If u go by the early canon like 90 percent of the clan shouldnt have been killed
@@michaelortiz1561 Thanks to Itachi"Testing my Skillz"Uchiha and Danzo the Eye Guy
"Some say heresy is like a tree, its roots hide in the shadows while the trunk stays in the sun; one can cut the branches, even level it to the ground, but it will regrow again ever stronger"
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Pat's confusion at Woolie mentioning Minato had me dying laughing.
I remember reading a proposal for a fix to the Ninja War that would've made it somewhat more interesting. First, no Obito or Madara. Tobi is just some dude from one of the smaller villages that worked his ass off to achieve his level of power. He unites the lower villages under the banner of being fed up of dealing with the 5 greater villages' shit and having to clean up after their devestation with no help from them. So that would mean no white Zetsu army, no Edo Tensei, no moon princess aliens. Naruto has to fight and kill people who are wholly justified in their anger and conviction.
It's not perfect, but I like it so much more than what we got.
That's what it should've been, but no, Kishi had to make it about parallels and the cycle of hatred bullshit.
@@HandlesSuck123 The thing is, those things arent bad concepts to write about and explore. His execution was just God awful. But I think he stopped caring by that point.
@@machine1685 It's not just that though, it's the fact that he started with one concept at the beginning, then did a 180, and ended up with the complete opposite in the end. It made Naruto look like a fool and a hypocrite.
Not only was it badly executed, it was also badly planned.
@@HandlesSuck123 I have no idea what he was thinking making Naruto literal ninja-Jesus who can drop nukes at a whim.
@@machine1685 Even worse is that Boruto basically threw all of that Narujesus thing out the window now.
They couldn't kill Madara because he had all that shit going for him and also knew how to use it. Black Zetsu ganked him by surprise in a way that doesn't really make sense so he could revive Kaguya using Madara as a sacrifice. The good guys were able to beat Kaguya because she was insane and had no idea how to do shit about fuck and was just throwing ass loads of power around. Madara was a super soldier, Kaguya was just a monster. It's all shit.
Naruto was unironically never about hard work always paying off and just being all you need, even in the Chuunin Exam. People just saw Rock Lee and assumed it was in spite of him getting clapped by Gaara, the dude who literally stands still and lets his innate Sand powers take the wheel despite his hard work like an hour later. It's that whole "okay but what do you do when the genius is also working hard on top of his natural ability when you have none" shit, it's why Sasuke hit weightless Lee level taijutsu in like a month of training. It's like people forgot what the Land of Waves arc was about.
Things i thought about instead of sleeping: the rise of skywalker is the "ending of naruto shippuden" of star wars.
Ouch, that's a bit harsh even for Naruto. At least the manga ended with a cool fight (no matter how contrived it was). The same couldn't be said about RoS. The whole finale was just a wet fart.
Do you think making me cry is cool?
@@Darkyan97 Rey: Dattebayo!
The only person who id say didnt get redemption and likely wasnt manipulated by madara was Hidan. But hes stuck in a hole forever I guess just forget about the imortal guy
I like how a guy has immortality and ORochimaru doesn’t care
@@Abdega he was legit a cool villain but was never brought back because no reason, none of the akasuki decided to go get him
Abdega And Orochimaru would absolutely be willing to be a disciple of Yashin if it meant he could gain immortality and do his experiments for eternity. He literally doesn’t care so long as he will never age or die, but nope. Gotta chase dumb red eye boys for shits and giggles
My hands are bleeding and becoming nothing but bones after all the punching of a picture of Kishimoto's face fixed into a straw dummy.
I’ve come to the conclusion that Naruto would’ve been better if Rock Lee were the main character and it was about him getting around all the other character’s nonsense.
Rock Lee and His Dumb Bullshit Ninja Pals
Good news! There's already a show with the exact premise!
There's a LOT of things that could've made Naruto better. Kishimoto going with his original premise of Naruto being the Kyuubi's son, making the village's distain for him actually make sense. Kishimoto actually being able to write romance in the slightest, making Sakura not a complete waste of time and space. Kishimoto having a plan for the series passed the Wave arc besides "I WANT NARUTO AND SASUKE TO FIGHT, AND SOME KAIJU FIGHTS TOO," So people get the real thematic point of overcoming differences, and not hard work overcoming genetics, which he pulled right out of his ass...
Seeing a common thread here.
It's truly sad, every kid outside the main trio is objectively better in every way.
Rock Lee: Springtime of Hard Work
I mean...at least Kaguya was hot. Big thicc bunny mommy~
And she was on the prowl for younger studs, she's the cougar MILF of the century.
This was cathartic
Actually a good parallel with Guy being able to kick Madara's ass considering Gaara was also "untouchable" in the Lee fight.