22:57 when she says "we can't beat the ego." Blew my mind. All this time I've been in a struggle to beat it. The concept of nurturing it, understanding it, showing it love - wow. Thank you.
IN A WORLD THAT CANT STOP TALKING,,,,,this interview is so refreshing and heart felt! I feel I can breathe as I listen, watch and observe! Thank you Luis and Byron Katie! I also, have more understanding of how THE WORK works! I definitely will be listening to this again for anything blessing I may have missed ~🕊️🫶🏻♥️🙏🏻
This has been a really helpful interview for me. My favorite quote was when Byron said " it's a painful world to attempt to manipulate the way other see us." I had been wanting to make a few more UA-cam videos for my small UA-cam channel but was afraid they would not be good enough to post. But this interview has convinced me to go ahead and post them, as a way to not attempt to manipulate the way others may view the videos.
There was an interesting thought I had at the turnaround “I need Byron Katie to not like me, and not think I’m brilliant”. One of the most refreshing things about Byron Katie for me is that she doesn’t express these kinds of judgements. I notice because I feel the compassion in people who are neither very pleased, nor very displeased with other people and with me. Like how I am and what I /should/ be doing, is not their business. What a relief. I feel safe in my vulnerability around people who practice this. If Byron Katie all of a sudden got so excited about how brilliant Luis is, she would not be Byron Katie. Applying that to myself and the people in my world who I want to think that I’m brilliant and want so badly to like me, I feel so much ease in loosening my grip on that desire, where I can’t let go of that thought all together. Thank you for this episode. Luis you are the teacher of a friend of mine, and when I went looking for my teacher, I saw the two of you and knew it was something I didn’t want to miss. Blessings.
Who would i be without that thought? That is the most reliable way of experiencing peace during a situation where you were first pained. Amazing space of peace to sit in.
I've been doing The Work since 2013, when I was required to read Katie's book Loving What is, for a class assignment and then doing the worksheet. I have followed her ever since ... diving into her other books and watching video's of her practicing the work with others. I've seen other interviews and quite frankly, been frustrated by the same questions being asked of Katie with every interview. This is perhaps the first interview, where new questions were being asked. I've always wondered how Katie navigates her world now that she lives the Work and the Turnarounds. You're vulnerability Luis, was refreshing, raw and authentic to my own insecurities and dealings with myself. Getting in touch with my feelings has been a pathway through to my thoughts and I love the way you shared your own experience with your feelings. Thank you for offering up this interview with your world. It was a gift.
Katie apparently had an experience of the emptiness of Everything and the illusory self as no thing. Then, she seemingly reversed engineered it so that other illusory "selves" could also experience their own absence. But when the "me" apparently collapses, there is no one left to experience its own absence. Seeking stops. It's Everything that is energy walling, Katieing, reading, loving, crying, paining, etc. Self-inquiry keeps the illusory "me" seeking for something that does not exist and has never been lost. It's Everything hiding in plain sight. Everything is whole and complete, that includes the story of "me."
I love, love, love Byron Katie. What a treat to see her with you, Luis, being your loving, willing-to-be-vulnerable, brilliant self. This was a great New Year gift. P. S. I loved the space for quiet.
Luis!!!!!! I continue to be humbled and opened by your bravery of vulnerability and your truth. Literal tears when you shared your honest feelings with Byron…… so honest and real…. Thank you for sharing this experience with her. You didn’t have to but much appreciation that you did. Very strong real energy. Beautiful to watch. Amazing job!!! 🙏🏻🫶🏻
Thank you both, so much. I am just beginning to discover Byron Katie and the Work, and already have a notion of the simplicity and clarity it can bring. I look forward to going deeper. Thank you, thank you and thank you.
So much wisdom and respect here! I was moved to tears feeling how relaxed and accepting you both are. From the start this interview evoked and allowed deep feelings of 'past' pain and empathy. Love, once covered over with busy doing now Rises. Thank you so much for seeing and comforting the 'terrified child' that wisdom knows has not and could not ever leave the Light, except in a dream.
When I saw that you were doing an interview with Byron Katie, I was so excited for you, Luis! I was also excited for me since I got to witness this. 😂I've heard you talk about Byron Katie in many of your podcasts and have started to do "The Work" myself. What a magical conversation this is to witness. Such a pleasure.
This is so beautiful. I have loved Katie since I found her and The Work many years ago. I love your descriptions and experience with the Work, Luis. Just a wonderful exchange between the two of you. Love you both!!
another thing that came to mind for me in looking for reasons why “i DONT need katie to like me or think I’m brilliant” is that IF in any moment she did NOT like him, it would allow an opportunity for her to be honest about that and maybe share something really important for him/anyone listening to learn that they otherwise wouldn’t if she was just liking him the whole time and didn’t find anything to question/disagree with. like potentially a disagreement/criticism might have shown him something to learn about himself that could be ultimately really helpful/enlightening. for us as an audience to watch someone with an open mind face rejection/criticism and learn something valuable from it could potentially be a major gift to all
Thank u beautiful people my heart is grateful my tummy relaxed my mind open and anger releases from me Byron Katie ur work is a blessing 🌹💛🌹💫💫💫💫💫blessings to u both 🙏🔆🔆🔆
This reinforces the story of me, feeds the me, and keeps the me identified with an artificial self that is a mental construct. It's an endless loop of searching for an imaginary liberation that is already everywhere. It seems like a dog chasing his own tail or a hamster on a wheel, staying busy while trying to find what is already hiding in plain sight. Boundless freedom.
Yeah exactly. An endless loop of distractions and searching for something that is in you. They are very happy to live in this realm. If you don’t want to reincarnate into this clown world than think critically and follow your intuition.
Yo me he sentido tan avergonzada por sentir miedos y tener el pensamiento que necesitaba agradarle a los demás,porque algunas personas se burlaban de mi(en ese aspecto)o quizas el ego interpreto que se burlaban de mi en público,haciendome creer que yo estaba muy limitada,y a partir de ahi me siento avergonzada y con miedo de que la gente vea mis inseguridades y oscuridad y pensamientos violentos etc etc.y gracias a ti que compartes ese pensamiento de que necesitabas que katie le agradaras.pareciera que a algunos terapeuta se creen que son perfectos y hacen sentir mal al otro por sentir miedos y como que esta mal sentir miedos,y ellos nunca hablan de sus inseguridades y limitaciones,me da rabia eso.cuando me hacen eso es como si yo me sintiera inferior a ellos de alguna manera,y hace que me odie a mi misma por tener esos pensamientos.
I struggle with parts of the work's. My husband stole from me. Is it true. Fact yes. So how do I turn it around I stole from me? I appreciate all this, but I am having great difficulty when things are facts? Any help? ❣ I live in Canada
That was the biggest challenge for me. What has helped me is adding on the word "now". So "My husband stole from me." Is it true now? And what you might find is that your mind is bringing the image to you now and it hurts, rather than you're stealing from you. If I do the turnaround with your example I find "I stole from me". Right now, this story and this memory is stealing my peace and taking me back to the pain of the situation.
@@holisticlifenavigation Thank you. I'm not a big ego person at all, but the tears this turnaround gives me, is defeating. I will keep trying. Thank you for helping to make our minds and hearts a happier place. ❣
And I'd add: I think in general it's about being curious and creative about the thoughts you question, to play with it. So, if questioning a fact doesn't seem fruitful to you in that moment (although as Luis also wrote you can always play even with facts without gaslighting yourself), you can question beliefs that you created based on the fact. So in your case with your husband it could be something like: I can't trust anyone. People are bad. He doesn't love me. My relationship will never heal from that. I deserved that. I mustn't be angry because I love him.... It's about cultivating the joy of questioning everything the ego gets stuck with, and there are many ways to do that, be playful. :)
Notice what it “means” to you? What “meaning” are you putting on to it - and Work that. Ex: He is a mean person. He can never be trusted. He violated me, abused me…. etc. Hope this is supportive 🙏🏻
Luis have you heard of Margaret Paul’s Inner Bonding work? What are your thoughts? I love Byron Katie’s work and when I found Margaret’s it seemed like an expounding upon the work.
22:57 when she says "we can't beat the ego." Blew my mind. All this time I've been in a struggle to beat it. The concept of nurturing it, understanding it, showing it love - wow. Thank you.
IN A WORLD THAT CANT STOP TALKING,,,,,this interview is so refreshing and heart felt! I feel I can breathe as I listen, watch and observe! Thank you Luis and Byron Katie! I also, have more understanding of how THE WORK works! I definitely will be listening to this again for anything blessing I may have missed ~🕊️🫶🏻♥️🙏🏻
This has been a really helpful interview for me. My favorite quote was when Byron said " it's a painful world to attempt to manipulate the way other see us." I had been wanting to make a few more UA-cam videos for my small UA-cam channel but was afraid they would not be good enough to post. But this interview has convinced me to go ahead and post them, as a way to not attempt to manipulate the way others may view the videos.
Amazing. I'm so glad. xo
Yes♥️
There was an interesting thought I had at the turnaround “I need Byron Katie to not like me, and not think I’m brilliant”. One of the most refreshing things about Byron Katie for me is that she doesn’t express these kinds of judgements. I notice because I feel the compassion in people who are neither very pleased, nor very displeased with other people and with me. Like how I am and what I /should/ be doing, is not their business. What a relief. I feel safe in my vulnerability around people who practice this. If Byron Katie all of a sudden got so excited about how brilliant Luis is, she would not be Byron Katie. Applying that to myself and the people in my world who I want to think that I’m brilliant and want so badly to like me, I feel so much ease in loosening my grip on that desire, where I can’t let go of that thought all together. Thank you for this episode. Luis you are the teacher of a friend of mine, and when I went looking for my teacher, I saw the two of you and knew it was something I didn’t want to miss. Blessings.
Beautiful...Thank you ! I met the work and Katie 25 years ago...and I m soooo grateful that the young people meet the work ! love from France
As a fan of Byron Katie for years… now a fan of yours. Thank you for ‘showing up’ at just the right time! Imagine that ☺️
Who would i be without that thought?
That is the most reliable way of experiencing peace during a situation where you were first pained.
Amazing space of peace to sit in.
I've been doing The Work since 2013, when I was required to read Katie's book Loving What is, for a class assignment and then doing the worksheet.
I have followed her ever since ... diving into her other books and watching video's of her practicing the work with others.
I've seen other interviews and quite frankly, been frustrated by the same questions being asked of Katie with every interview.
This is perhaps the first interview, where new questions were being asked. I've always wondered how Katie navigates her world now that she lives the Work and the Turnarounds.
You're vulnerability Luis, was refreshing, raw and authentic to my own insecurities and dealings with myself.
Getting in touch with my feelings has been a pathway through to my thoughts and I love the way you shared your own experience with your feelings.
Thank you for offering up this interview with your world. It was a gift.
Katie apparently had an experience of the emptiness of Everything and the illusory self as no thing. Then, she seemingly reversed engineered it so that other illusory "selves" could also experience their own absence. But when the "me" apparently collapses, there is no one left to experience its own absence. Seeking stops. It's Everything that is energy walling, Katieing, reading, loving, crying, paining, etc. Self-inquiry keeps the illusory "me" seeking for something that does not exist and has never been lost. It's Everything hiding in plain sight. Everything is whole and complete, that includes the story of "me."
I love, love, love Byron Katie. What a treat to see her with you, Luis, being your loving, willing-to-be-vulnerable, brilliant self. This was a great New Year gift. P. S. I loved the space for quiet.
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I absolutely adore Byron Katie too. She has profoundly changed my life and The Work lives within me in every moment. Beautiful interview, thank you!
Luis!!!!!! I continue to be humbled and opened by your bravery of vulnerability and your truth. Literal tears when you shared your honest feelings with Byron…… so honest and real…. Thank you for sharing this experience with her. You didn’t have to but much appreciation that you did. Very strong real energy. Beautiful to watch. Amazing job!!! 🙏🏻🫶🏻
Thank you for this. It felt so good to be vulnerable. xo
much love to the both of you and everyone who’s watching it. ❤️
My heart is bursting with optimism that finally doing the “work” with reap so much wealth of peace, an access to heaven on earth.
I really relate to what you teach. At 78 I hope I have the courage to make this change happen
Youwillhavethecourage.xoxoxox
"Id like to share mine first..." sums up this honey voiced interviewer.... bless him
Beautiful conversation. I notice they were both in a place of allowing, no rush, no expectations. I got a real taste of The Work here. ❤
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Yes so refreshing!
Such a great interview with Katie Luis-you do such a great job of listening for the question and presenting it 🙏🏼 thank you!
Thank you both, so much. I am just beginning to discover Byron Katie and the Work, and already have a notion of the simplicity and clarity it can bring. I look forward to going deeper. Thank you, thank you and thank you.
Thanks very much from the bottom of my Heart.
Greetings from Berlin ❤️
So much wisdom and respect here! I was moved to tears feeling how relaxed and accepting you both are. From the start this interview evoked and allowed deep feelings of 'past' pain and empathy. Love, once covered over with busy doing now Rises. Thank you so much for seeing and comforting the 'terrified child' that wisdom knows has not and could not ever leave the Light, except in a dream.
So beautiful. Thanks for sharing this.
When I saw that you were doing an interview with Byron Katie, I was so excited for you, Luis! I was also excited for me since I got to witness this. 😂I've heard you talk about Byron Katie in many of your podcasts and have started to do "The Work" myself. What a magical conversation this is to witness. Such a pleasure.
I love this interaction, thank you so much for making this happen! The work is the most powerful practise I've experienced.
Thank you for this wonderful moment....Byron Katie is so incredible💖
This is so beautiful. I have loved Katie since I found her and The Work many years ago. I love your descriptions and experience with the Work, Luis. Just a wonderful exchange between the two of you. Love you both!!
Such a deep and great conversation with dear Katie! Love and appreciation to both of you. ❤
Omg she is a gift ❤ wow
This was such a beautiful sharing between you both. I absolutely LOVED the comfortable silences. Lovely❤
another thing that came to mind for me in looking for reasons why “i DONT need katie to like me or think I’m brilliant” is that IF in any moment she did NOT like him, it would allow an opportunity for her to be honest about that and maybe share something really important for him/anyone listening to learn that they otherwise wouldn’t if she was just liking him the whole time and didn’t find anything to question/disagree with. like potentially a disagreement/criticism might have shown him something to learn about himself that could be ultimately really helpful/enlightening. for us as an audience to watch someone with an open mind face rejection/criticism and learn something valuable from it could potentially be a major gift to all
Thank u beautiful people my heart is grateful my tummy relaxed my mind open and anger releases from me
Byron Katie ur work is a blessing 🌹💛🌹💫💫💫💫💫blessings to u both 🙏🔆🔆🔆
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yes I love Byron Katie also,she's soooooooooo cool!!! Taiji Love !!!!
The work.....read it eons ago! Very powerful! Thus "love what is" ! Especially UR self; w/ out apologizing for UR being!!!
Thank you, Luis Mojica & Byron Katie - you've helped me feel better! ❤
Dynamic Duo here! Wow! Happy New Year!!
Such a precious conversation with Katie. Beautiful 🙏🏻
Beautiful, thank you!❤
Love her so much♥️Such a jewel to the world! Amazing interview and interviewer ♥️Thank you both🙏🤍
Wow, I loved the questions, very different ones from other Katie interviews. Thank you!
Soooo beautiful 🙏❤️🦋
This reinforces the story of me, feeds the me, and keeps the me identified with an artificial self that is a mental construct. It's an endless loop of searching for an imaginary liberation that is already everywhere. It seems like a dog chasing his own tail or a hamster on a wheel, staying busy while trying to find what is already hiding in plain sight. Boundless freedom.
Yeah exactly. An endless loop of distractions and searching for something that is in you.
They are very happy to live in this realm. If you don’t want to reincarnate into this clown world than think critically and follow your intuition.
Yes
This is nonsense, this isn’t an impediment to awakening but is a way to release old stories that prevent awakening.
@@pandawandas An awakening is part of the story. When the story of me seemingly unravels, there's a seeing of all the stories.
@@pandawandas An awakening is another story, concept, belief, abstraction, or mental construct.
Saw the clip on Instagram. I'm so grateful the full video is accessible. Many thanks✨💞
Yo me he sentido tan avergonzada por sentir miedos y tener el pensamiento que necesitaba agradarle a los demás,porque algunas personas se burlaban de mi(en ese aspecto)o quizas el ego interpreto que se burlaban de mi en público,haciendome creer que yo estaba muy limitada,y a partir de ahi me siento avergonzada y con miedo de que la gente vea mis inseguridades y oscuridad y pensamientos violentos etc etc.y gracias a ti que compartes ese pensamiento de que necesitabas que katie le agradaras.pareciera que a algunos terapeuta se creen que son perfectos y hacen sentir mal al otro por sentir miedos y como que esta mal sentir miedos,y ellos nunca hablan de sus inseguridades y limitaciones,me da rabia eso.cuando me hacen eso es como si yo me sintiera inferior a ellos de alguna manera,y hace que me odie a mi misma por tener esos pensamientos.
Happy New year ❤️❤️
Beautiful work, love that I’m learning to navigate my heart ♥️
So good!!!!
The work is alive in me ❤
Beautfiul! I have just found you, Luis, and am now following your podcasts! Thank you for modeling intention and presence. Much love. xoxo
Omg I love how honest you are
I wish the voices were on the same volume - Content is great.
Beautiful and enlightening; I really loved this conversation; thank you. 💎🫶🏽
Wow. Great 🤗💖🌟
Thank you for this, both of yahs.
Thank you! Love the questions
I am trying so hard to understand how to makes this apply to things like abuse and murder. I would love some help understanding.
It is NOW, always NOW!
It's intuition.....
The body doesn't lie.....
Memories !
HALT : hunger
Anger
Lonely
Tired
Choices!
I struggle with parts of the work's. My husband stole from me. Is it true. Fact yes. So how do I turn it around I stole from me? I appreciate all this, but I am having great difficulty when things are facts? Any help? ❣ I live in Canada
That was the biggest challenge for me. What has helped me is adding on the word "now". So "My husband stole from me." Is it true now? And what you might find is that your mind is bringing the image to you now and it hurts, rather than you're stealing from you. If I do the turnaround with your example I find "I stole from me". Right now, this story and this memory is stealing my peace and taking me back to the pain of the situation.
@@holisticlifenavigation Thank you. I'm not a big ego person at all, but the tears this turnaround gives me, is defeating. I will keep trying. Thank you for helping to make our minds and hearts a happier place. ❣
And I'd add: I think in general it's about being curious and creative about the thoughts you question, to play with it. So, if questioning a fact doesn't seem fruitful to you in that moment (although as Luis also wrote you can always play even with facts without gaslighting yourself), you can question beliefs that you created based on the fact. So in your case with your husband it could be something like: I can't trust anyone. People are bad. He doesn't love me. My relationship will never heal from that. I deserved that. I mustn't be angry because I love him.... It's about cultivating the joy of questioning everything the ego gets stuck with, and there are many ways to do that, be playful. :)
@@timm.8729 Thank you 4441😊❣❣
Notice what it “means” to you? What “meaning” are you putting on to it - and Work that.
Ex: He is a mean person. He can never be trusted. He violated me, abused me…. etc. Hope this is supportive 🙏🏻
20:10…. When Byron Katie says “I need to go back.” 20:03 Is she saying that you have to go back and have a conversation in person ?
Where does she talks how our thoughts create our reality, what timing?
beautimous!
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Quelqu'un peut-il en faire une traduction française ? 🙏
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Luis have you heard of Margaret Paul’s Inner Bonding work? What are your thoughts? I love Byron Katie’s work and when I found Margaret’s it seemed like an expounding upon the work.
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🙏🏼❤️🙏🏼❤️🙏🏼❤️🙏🏼❤️🙏🏼
This was so beautiful, delicious, yummy and gorgeous. Two beautiful people being themselves.
Please invite or interview #JohnVervaeke ❤️🙏🏼
In other words....thoughts R things ?
BEING authentic!....
She's a Zen master but this label will blind me from seeing her as she is
Forehead dots?😁mean modem day Vishnu stripe ?
silence home silence home
why does he need three spots on his forehead ?
👽........... BLAH ... BLAH ... BLAH .......... ' humanAPES ...........