Saxophone Sound Development
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- Опубліковано 30 вер 2024
- This is a video on how to develop a great tone on saxophone by not destroying the air when it leaves your body. I'm using a Claude Lakey 6*3 and an Otto Link STM 7 for this video with Vandoren #2.5 reeds.
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This dude is one of my favorite UA-cam teachers. He really knows what he's talking about deeply. Than you for sharing, Sir Valor
Couldn't agree more. I could listen to him for hours.
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@@Sirvalorsax do you our offer lessons?
Great lesson, hope you realize how lucky we are to take lessons from a master teacher on UA-cam for free.
Amazing video. I gotta say that there is no other teacher on UA-cam like you man. Keep up the amazing work 👍
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I agree....He is .... the best....!!!
The University sax prrofessor instructs diligently.
Excelentissimo behavioral objective and presentation.
Thanks, champ!
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I think you would be fascinating to take lessons from. I wish I lived nearby.
The guy who coaches me stressed long tone practise and playing without the octave key. Great for embouchure control.
Practised in the afternoon then went to an evening big band session. Concentrated on the reading so much I forgot to use the octave key! Sounded in tune though. LoL
I love how he nearly goes on a tangential calculus lesson eight minutes in, and then reels himself back in to music. Serious respect for both his saxophone powers, teaching style, and scientific/mathematical literacy.
I play euphonium and trombone. But I feel like there's something I can extrapolate from this
Two of my favorite brass instruments
I have been struggling with overtones for a while now, and this was by far the most helpful and informative video on youtube.
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Thanks from Russia, Sirvalorsax! You are the best saxophone teacher I have found on the web, and at the age of 60 after two years of searching, I know what I'm saying. So let you live to see a hundred, man, stay healthy, and never stop doing good just as you do right now. This world needs deep ones like yourself - who can also share their thoughts.
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Another amazingly insightful video! You have taken a complex topic and made it simple! As an engineer, I greatly appreciate your ability to bring in the scientific explanations to help make our own sound better. I too tend to lean towards a medium open tip & longer facing length and then use my lip to adjust the softer reeds I also prefer. I am nowhere near your level of expert playing level, but with your video, I can get closer. Keep up the great work you are doing for the Sax community. Thanks. PS: Please feel free to toss in a few Clarinet and Flute videos. You also sound amazing on them. You put out a few videos on sax doubling. I suggest putting out a sax and clarinet doubling tips and tricks video which would include how you are able to adjust your embouchure to adapt between them. Thanks again for your great work!
For years I could get altissimo notes, meaning altissimo G and higher, but I can never articulate them. If I tongue them at all, the right pitch doesn’t come out, or the reed stops vibrating entirely.
Any idea why I would have this problem? I absolutely have to breath attack to play up in that range.
It sounds like you are making slight changes to your embouchure when you tongue. I would practice going back and fourth from a breath attack to a tongue attack to minimize this effect
Thank you I’m 84 years young and started to play sax the right way and the tips I got from you are priceless I’m after the George Auld sound and getting close
why am I watching this I play clarinet
Great video man thank you. I have a question when you say tune sharp for the relaxed embouchure, is this achieved by pushing the mouthpiece in more? Thank you in advance. Stay safe
Love this video, man. The explanation of technique, the humor bits here and there, and of course, the simplicity. Write that book and make an album! (Though I know it’s hard with all the stuff going on out there and the pandemic). Point is we’d all buy them both. :)
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This is one of the most important videos on saxophone sound on UA-cam, thanks for sharing your brilliance.
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Man this just reiterates the teachings of Senta in his altissimo book where the first exercises are purely playing octave key notes WITHOUT the octave key. Creating the octave wirh your lips and voicing as opposed to the machine
5:50 - I've been using my favourite ligature upside down all this time?!😂
FANTASTIC tips. So we'll explained, and it works!
Calculus & physics to teach saxophone!? You, sir, are amazing. Great video.
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< I LoVe it ! Fantastic ¡ Not many tread in these domains...another level ¡ >
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Thank you! that was the key! since then I can play the saxophone ❤🎉😊👍👍👍
What is the intro music
An amazing teacher Mr.Spencer 😎 thankyou
Some valuable information, thank you..
This guy is crazy good at explaining stuff. Says exactly what he needs to without a bunch of fluff and still manages to get a lot of information out in one video. Love it!
Sexy , cool, inspirational , raising the bar 🎷 Pedagogy. Do more.
Jfs. Physicist-Mathematician.
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i dont play saxophone, but i wanted to learn about it anyway. Thanks for the helpful tips!
Side note, dude, you should look into voiceover/voice acting work cuz holy sh*t you got a great voice and you annunicate incredibly clearly!
thanks again!
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So at around 9:30 you're showing a regular embouchure adjusting for the altissimo register, and at 9:55 you're showing your embouchure (an open lip embouchure) going into altissimo right? Looks that way at least. Principles are apparently the same: that fulcrum concept. Always thought of it that way so this is validating lol.
They are all a lip out embouchure. The close one is just of a lesser degree of "outness"
Hey Sirvalorsax, I hope you are safe and doing well in these troubled times. Love the vids sir!
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Thx for this great video! Finally someone I do understand :) how you explained everything was really very good! Although I play the alto sax …… :) greetings from germany ( already subscribed )
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Thanks! Great explanations. I can't wait to experiment during my next practice session.
Thanks Sir. That was very straightforward and clear. 👍
I've only gotten to 2:50 at this point, but yes, I've wondered in the past about why/whether we (should) use the octave key when it isn't actually necessary (for most notes, or maybe even for all of them). It felt almost like "cheating" to me, felt not entirely right to me (almost unnatural, too), and I was very tempted not to use it. (Haven't owned a saxophone for a while and I had not gotten very far on it yet, but I do remember that doubt. And I will get another saxophone again in the future.)
The saxophone would be crazy difficult to play with the octave key. Its necessary that we use it and overcome its limitations
Never heard this explained this way.
What a bloody SLOW THINKING ! Wasting time super boring crap .
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Do you teach Lessons
Sir, this is brilliant. Publish a new illustrated technique book IMMEDIATELY! This lesson alone will set you up financially for life.
Good, with that area talk. Cool. Area is 2-d. Volume is 3-d . So you have a wedge space , a volume space. So it comes to volume under the 3d graph. Great stuff, how you combining physics , maths and engineering to your art of saxophone. I also employ these God things to also produce 4 octaves. But I am not in your league as a musician. I am your toe.
Lol, thanks for watching
Thank you Sir Valor. Gera-te explications
Great Sax Player dude! Enjoy listening to your advise.
I've been enjoying your lessons and binge watching your videos. Thank you so much! Do you do private classes?
Not at the moment
honestly i was glued paying attention....so much so....i realized what he was talking about as i self teach..... explained different yes...which make more sense......like the little secrets you discovered but wasn't sure what made that last few notes better.......thank you..... straight sax sounds like your bathing a beautiful woman in a traditional white tube with flowing bubbles of lathery love......which it could hit a little lower.....like drop warm chocolate into flow.
thanks again. Great job
LOL, Lathery Love!!
This is great! I wish that a video such as your video was available when I was developing my altissimo range. I had to make these discoveries on my own and it took a long time.
At 1:30 of this performance of Michael Brecker's Delta City Blues, you can super clearly see what he's referring to about lip position and high notes and overtones. ua-cam.com/video/uXpUk1w9P-Q/v-deo.html
You can really hear that multiphonic split with his change of embouchure position. 😃
John Lynch, a NASA physicist/engineer , talks things like these for his breakthrough asymmetric trumpet mouthpiece.... in his book on the matter, and on the matter of trpt altissimo.
I'll have to look that up, thanks for the info
Thanks, inspired me to sweep the floor or maybe can blow the dust away.
Hey man you are so right on. You explain so simply. Dave Liebman teaches the same thing but not as simply as you. And, I think your sound is better than Liebman. This is because you are so natural, so real, so fundamental. Thanks, and keep up the great teaching.
I appreciate that! Thanks
Do you think a stregnth 2 Rico reed is too soft for a 6* Jody Jazz Tenor piece? And what legere stregnth do you think is closest to it? Am mainly an alto player still, but this video helped me develop my tenor sound
I have always found Rico reeds to be on the soft side in general. Plus, Jody Jazz pieces are very free blowing so those reeds may be too soft. When switching to a lip out embouchure it is necessary to use a softer setup. I have a Legere select which seems to be a little stiffer by comparison to Vandoren redbox reeds
A human octave key. Absolutely brilliant , sir v. I am lol. All the real estate 🏡, and the calculus. Mechanical advantage transcribed to acoustical advantage. Man, this is the sweetest sax lecture I have seen on the tube in 25 years. I like the aerodynamics(air flow) talk as well, and-the hydrodynamics (hose).
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Shit, my man went all geometry and physics, I wasn't ready....I'm just tryin to learn how to play sax....lol! Good stuff!
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If you weren't so naturally handsome, those close ups might scare somebody into playing trumpet instead.
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I've been using a rubber band at times to shorten the facing but with your explanation, no longer necessary. Thanks for the great science (physics) lesson . tenorsaxsam
Glad to help!
Fantastic info!! I wished I’d had this type of guidance sixty years ago.This is a great channel.I hope you publish your book soon.
I wish I had UA-cam when I was in college. That is the philosophy behind why i make the videos the way that I do. Thanks for watching
Really enjoyed this. As a beginner I was taught to not move the embouchure in a general attempt to stop biting. So there's a lot to unlearn for sure - as you demonstrate here, it's clear all the great players are constantly adjusting position - over time I'm sure there's a perfect spot for each note that gets burned into muscle memory with practice. But permission to shift that lower lip is very welcome.
Glad it was helpful!
Excellent!!!
Many thanks!
Very bad examples. Why even use a broom to explain saxophone. Believe it or not people who play an instrument are not totally dumb. Disliked
People who play instruments usually don't have a degree in math, physics or engineering. This video is meant to highlight the similarities between everyday tools and how they relate to sax sound production. Feel free to watch it again this time with your sax in hand and try the things that I discuss. Clarinet embouchure is quite different from saxophone embouchure by the way. Thanks for watching
you're a Jedi - the way you explain this stuff is just so good - thank you!
Happy to help!
Im your big fan Brendan
Your videos are so erudite and well thought through. You are a very gifted teacher 🙏
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Hey man, for the relaxed vs standard, will the relaxed one give you a darker tone? My teacher said I sound too bright
A relaxed embouchure will allow for more air to flow through the sax giving it more of a subtone sound which is darker BUT... I use this to play with a bright sound also
Gold..love it.👌. cheers from Oz
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You'll the best on Utube showing sax player how to do it right Thanks Be Safe God Bless each1
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I think this is a great video. You have explained how embouchure can be used for creating correct tone and notes
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He's the sax version of neil degrasse tyson
Been looking for you for years. It’s what I’ve been trying and now your confirming.
Let’s go, but in my own time.
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I feel like the skies parted and wisdom just floated down from above. This makes a ton of sense, I've never seen it explained so well. I sure do enjoy your videos, you have a gift and it's clearly been paired with hard work. Thank you so much.
Glad you enjoyed it!
This lesson is gospel. Very enlightening.
Excellent instruction. As a beginner I appreciate his videos.
Glad it was helpful!
Ok, next lesson we would like to see is where is the donation page? Not all of us need merchandise, some of us just need to donate.
Good suggestion. I'm working on it
Thank you so much for this, I only found your site by accident this morning, and found it fascinating, and was practising as you played and making the same sounds, only too happy to subscribe for more! brilliant and refreshing!
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Thanks you for your video. This is great video.👍👍👍
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Such a great explanation!
What I still struggle to understand is how I can have a more relaxed embouchure. I find that if my embouchure is mostly relaxed on middle C or D, then I have to add more pressure going down and even more pressure when going up I to 2nd octave, to play in tune. I feel that I can't relax my embouchure, except for a few notes.
I've been playing for 5 months now and while I'm getting better at fingering, articulation and getting more endurance, my sound is still disappointing 🙁😢
Just for context - I used to play on the guitar (and still do on and off) and I find that getting a good sound is almost the default and it didn't take me that long to produce satisfying sound, but producing good sound on a saxophone seems like guesswork. There doesn't seem to be a way to do it *right*. It's more of a gradient, etc.
Btw - you should set up something like "buy me a coffee" on patreon, so people like myself could chip in as a thank you for sharing your advice from time to time 🙂
Thanks for watching. If you have only been playing for 5 months it will be challenging. It is a slow process. I would suggest using both a "lip out" and a standard embouchure at this stage in you playing. I have set up an account with buy me a coffee here:
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@@Sirvalorsax thank you! I will keep trying!
Saxophone is so tough compared to guitar. I feel like whenever something gets better, something else gets worse. And there are so many different opinions, it's so confusing!
Enjoy your cake & coffee :D
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Very informative fantastic
What nice person you are !
Such a great video man ive been watching you for 2 years now ive learned so much thanks for everything.
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Wow amazing video! Thank you!
Just recently discovered your channel and just found this gem. Love your videos, and this may be my favorite I have seen thus far (caveat, still have more of yours to watch). I have actually watched videos by people I respect who say you should not adjust your sound or your range using your embouchure). Then, I go and watch all these great saxophonists (Rollins, Brecker, Grover, Bird, Trane, Oliver, Jacquet, and more) and their bottom lips are moving just like yours forward and back … changing up that “fulcrum.” Thank you, for being the first I have found to really break down the mechanics of what they are doing. It’s amazing how you can take such cerebral concepts that have been evading description for years and break it down so clearly without pretentiousness or condescension. As amazing as you are as a player, you are equally formidable in pedagogy. Thank you for the tremendous body of work you have shared with all of us. Much love, good sir!
Very interresting! Thanks for making this video!!
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This is really awesome information thanks 🎷🎷🎷
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thank you sir valor! you are a genius
RE: transcription...I'd like to know if you've ever transcribed Eddie "Lockjaw" Davis. He just blows me away. I've watched his videos and attempted analyzse his method. His emboucher is very relaxed and his fingerings seem to be all over the place. He out-plays everyone. About tip openings. I've always subscribed to the "open-soft, close-hard" approach to mpc/reed combo. I'm playing a Vandoren HR V16 .110 tenor piece with Vandoren Optimum lig and either Java green-box 1.5 or standard Rico 1.5 reeds. Gives me a big lush sound (YTS 875, late '80's with stock neck [M1 I believe]. Anyone wanting to play altissimo needs good support as well. I employ that along puffing my cheeks somewhat. a lot of the old masters did that (Zoot Sims). Doing that also makes it easier to play to the bottom of the horn (lo Bb). I like to play "My One And Only Love" in concert Db (written key) putting me in Eb and starting on the 5th (lo Bb). you get and easy breathy foo out of that. By the way is your tenor an "Excalibur CannonBall? I latched onto an used alto and I love it. Can't seem to find a used tenor tho. Maybe everyone loves theirs. Thanks for your videos: very helpful.
My friend just amazing for real Very well done thank you very very very Much 👍👍👍👍
This must be my favourite video: it was on my birthday! I started playing the saxophone because I was given one as a birthday present at age 36, almost 10 years ago! thank you Sirvalorsax for all the tips!
Dude you’re a scientist! I always tell my students all the time music is science. I’ll make sure they all see this thank you for sharing
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i've never been so quite and concentrate on a video like this... I've been playing saxophone for one week and half now and am teaching myself by watching tutorial videos and am struggling with my sound and tones and it makes me wanna quit.. and now my lower lips are kinda sore and i guess through watching this.., i have some hopes...!! any more advice from you sir to help me
Just keep playing and trying to improve! The lower lip pain will go away once ur lips become stronk
@@seowoo1228 Ditto. I've been playing for a year and a half now and remember the first few months. Either my lip would get sore like yours, and/or water vapour would sneak onto the keys after a short time. It's natural, and your oral muscles will build up endurance just like any other workout. Keep hydrated as well.
I've been playing about 3 years. Years ago I was a brass only player. I struggled with a consistent tone on the sax until I saw a demonstration on how to focus your airstream to a pinpoint onto the reed when you play. Like blowing out a candle. This really gave me a consistent controlled tone. Have fun.
I’ve been playing for 5, going on 6 years. How much have you progressed so far?
@@TheGuiltyGamer23 I'm still practicing but there was one time I almost quit but thanks God I didn't.
I've been teaching myself so it's bit difficult motivate yourself if you have no one to support you and see your progress.
I'll show you a link of one of my video I uploaded on UA-cam
My Goodness. I have only been playing Alto Sax (Very Badly lol) for a year and a half and moved to Tenor two weeks ago and have been struggling with my sound and trying to replicate the sound of the Alto. I just watched this video and based on what you instructed, I can get overtones across all the notes. My sound is also much better after only 2 hours of practice. You are indeed a master at teaching and I cant thank you enough
I want to respectfully disagree with a lot of this. There's just too much manipulation going on here with the embouchure and absolutely no discussion on the use of the throat. Anyone just starting out on the saxophone needs to develop a proper embouchure at the start. I would suggest checking the Joe Allard method.
I can make a video on body mechanics if you'd like. A lip out embouchure is actually considered to be a "proper" embouchure for saxophone by a lot of professionals. The standard embouchure has its limits where a lip out embouchure establishes a range of outness for ones own desired function. Traditional classical saxophone would use less outness than jazz for example. I chose not to go into body mechanics in this video because it would make the video way too long. Thanks for watching
I don't get why everyone calls it the "throat". The throat doesn't move, it's the tongue all along that's doing the moving! It's the back of the tongue, and we misidentify it as the throat!
So good, thanks master!! What about another video about ghost notes, as you said about these brochure is the key for good sounds and another stuff I have been watching videos that saxophonist play and somehow blow chiks or the top lip. Anyway thanks so much for all your videos that’s help me as a student of this wonderful instrument 🎷 👏🏻
Such a revelation! thanks so much for this way of seeing things
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Just getting back to it, that is so valuable, thank you so much
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Amazingly simple explanation for something that's hard to do well! Only great teachers are able to explain things like that. Awesome job!
This is a very useful video.
I have a question:
I can't try out mouthpieces and I only have a Tone Edge Link 0.90 (alto).
I want yo upgrade it to get closer to a Cannonball or Stitt sound.
What mouthpiece would you suggest?
Thanks in advance.
You are master truly
Love your fulcrum/balance analogy. And your paraphrase of the octave key situation sounds very similar to something i heard 40 years ago from a Mr Rollins. Great stuff man!
Do you give lessons?
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Awesome explanation. Great work.
Thank you!