if you can curl your toes up and kick the shin of a man who's 3 ft away in half a second, you're more preparted than 90% of people, so the .22 means virtually nothing in that regard.
As a cop I saw a great deal of gunshot recipients, different calibers and gauges and most went to the ER and some to the graveyard. The .22 was involved in many. You should never laugh at or underestimate a .22......ever.
A .22 will easily penetrate a skull and scramble brains there are youtube videos of it going through car doors. It will also easily collapse a lung or two. Makes me lol when folks think a .22 is a bb gun.
That's what Texas Red carried, and the notches on his pistol numbered one and nineteen more! Seriously, the best carry gun is the one you carry everyday, as criminals and crazies do not make appointments!
@Jesus.X The only misunderstanding I find with people and 22 is they don't realize shooting out of a pistol knocks off a good 3-400fps of the factory claims. If you are getting 1200fps out of a rifle you will get at best 900fps out of a little 3inch barrel so the round is not as potent or at full potential. It's still plenty power to kill though.
@@autocompletellc9906It's better to have more and not need it then have less and need it . Sometimes you have multiple threats or someone needs more rounds to stop.
@@KnifeNinjaEDC Your reasoning is not logical. The chances are that your prospective attacker will have a larger caliber and higher capacity gun. SO WHY RISK IT? It's got nothing to do with price either. You can get .380's and 9mm for the same kind of price. No Recoil = NOT ENOUGH POWER. PS: Targets in real life have a habit of moving quickly and shooting back too. Nothing like down the range!
@@GMT439 But .22lr basically does have higher FPS than say .45acp which means it's easier to hit a moving target than .45acp and easier to manage recoil also makes it easier to hit a moving target than with .45acp. Less recoil means being able to manage the pistol and get it back on sight quicker which means quicker more accurate follow up shots.
Folks, carry what you want. This is a deep concealment/backup gun. You can clearly see in the video I have another firearm. I’m not trying to change anyone’s hearts and minds. I just wanted to make a video explaining why I choose this sometimes. That’s all, not trying to change the world. I’m just a regular working dude with a kid to look after. Stay safe and be kind 🙏
I think you should really rethink some of your reasoning for picking this model of handgun as a defensive option. The only real "good" reasons I can think of for 22 over some of the more "standard" cartridges like 9mm is recoil and capacity. However on a compact gun like this you need to ask yourself; Is the reduction in recoil really going to help you in a defensive situation? I understand that you may think 22 is lethal enough for a headshot, but in reality in a life threatening situation, It's much more likely you'll be aiming at the chest. Maybe you won't have time to aim at all and you'll just be pointing it in their general direction. The reason 9mm, or .38 spc if you prefer a compact revolver like this, and others are standardized by many is not because they leave a "bigger hole" (ANY hole from any caliber can and WILL kill you if it's placed correctly), It's because they have the force nessecarry to break through the bones and tissue in front of the chest or an aggressor's arms in certain circumstances. If someone was holding a gun at you with both hands, and you shot at their chest, a .22 can potentially be stopped by the sternum and ribs, and definitely won't make it through their hands/arms into their vitals. So unless you're enfeebled (You don't appear to be) or that's all you have I wouldn't be running a .22 handgun for protection.
@@IndianaIsntRealcan you clearly not see the other firearm in the video? And what experience and credentials do you have? So I can understand who I am speaking to
and you need to rethink things concerning your opinions and the opinions of others because you seem to be really, really, really concerned with his choice of CC.....his SOMETIMES gun of choice mind you. This Ruger isn't his only handgun either and I think the OP is going to be just fine. I know that there have probably been many cases in which a person has been killed while attempting to defend themself and/or his/her loved ones while carrying a handgun with a powerful centerfire caliber. Of course, I am without a shred of doubt that there have been plenty of folks who were carrying a handgun chambered in the diminutive 22lr that stopped an attacker in his/her/shem's tracks. I didn't intend to come across as an asshole by writing "and you need to....blah, blah, blah. It's not my place to tell you what to consider or reconsider so I should not have typed that sentence. Live and learn and some lessons are understood within seconds or minutes of the mistake and some we never understand. @@IndianaIsntReal
Goes in a pocket, almost as light as a wallet, bullets won't go through houses, revolvers don't stove-pipe, less likely to be deaf from the first shot. Love the little LCR!
@@roentgen571 Yeah - I carry a Ruger LCP II .22LR (10+1) loaded with either Federal Punch or CC1 mini mags on my morning neighborhood walk every day. I thought I was going to get into it with a pack of coyotes one morning recently that didn't run off when I yelled at them. We had a short stand off and I had the Ruger out and they thought better of it and took off.
OK, you just made me realize how old I really am. I can remember buying a carton (yes, like a milk carton) of 500 Remington Yellowjackets for less than 20 bucks. those days are long gone now. I've had my little Beretta Bobcat for almost 40 years. Still goes bang every time.
@shadowwolf9503 I hear ya man. Used to buy bricks like that from the gun shows. 8 bricks will fit on end, in a 50 cal ammo can, for safe storage too!!!
This is a great firearm: small, lightweight, comfortable. I had one years ago and sold to a friend in my pursuit of something “bigger and better”. Now I’m of a mindset to sell off my “bigger and betters” and get back to this. Imminently more carryable and cheaper to shoot. One of my favorite guns I’ve owned.
Been considering the same thing! Found my Winchester Wildcat rifle with a couple Ruger mags, and my Keltec P17 make a great combo. But also have the Ruger LCR in 22 that I love. Just way easier to carry extra ammo with.
The guy on the video expressed a very humble opinion about his choice of firearm making very clear about the choices he makes based on his priorities, family and financial status. He was very clear about not pushing his stance on anybody, just expressing a personal opinion. Of course the trolling a**holes that know everything came out with a bunch of stupid sarcastic comments. They have to boast and ridicule as the bullies they are. Comments like “I’ll run if I have a 22” or better “carry a knife” and many others show how immature they are. Live and let live. As a person with hand arthritis I can’t hardly rack most guns and a smaller caliber like 380 is better for me. A bullet will kill or at least incapacitate an attacker at a distance unlike the famous comment about the knife unless you are an expert knife thrower and carry a bunch of them like in the movies. Just wanted to express my thoughts about thoughtless people.
There was another video I watched where a medical guy said that the reputation the .22 has for bouncing around inside a chest cavity like a pinball was unfounded and that it behaves pretty much like other bullets. Do you concur with that?
@@ZxAMobilethe revolver is fine, the lcr is a great weapon…in any other caliber than this. I have no clue why you’d carry .22lr when they make the exact weapon in .38 and .357, it’s plain stupidity.
@@throbbinwoodofcoxley6830 yeah but why use something that is just fine why not use the best in each category of virtually everything you use in life why settle for some crappy second-rate BS? People try to make the argument like there's money constraint but the same people that make that argument are blowing their money on stupid stuff 24/7 then they cheap out on the things that actually matter and make excuses for it
I use to be a public safety officer in Florida. A part of what I was trained for was to dispatch sick and injured animals, sometimes I had to put down injured cattle. My point is, if I could put down a 2000 pound bull with 22 LR, your Ruger 22lr is a good self defense weapon.
Yeah. I used to raise cows. They generally just stand there. I never was able to have one of them pick up a gun, and I never heard of a criminal standing still and letting you pop one in the brain-box. I submit it is a false equivalence because I have killed 400 lb. pigs with a baseball bat and would never carry a baseball bat for self defense unless there is nothing else at hand.
@@ramoncotta1264 I've had 200 lb. pigs pick up a baseball bat and beat the hell out of me for my "Eat More Bacon" t-shirt. I wish I had carried a bat that day.
He wasn't claiming that anyone would stand still and allow someone to pop off a few rounds into someone's head. He mentioned that the 22lr can kill a 2000lb bull/cow because he wanted to convey that the 22lr is not only lethal but that it can stop any would-be attacker when shots are fired accurately at vital CNS targets. I should have kept this much shorter by stating that if a 22lr can drop a bull with a headshot then a 22lr can stop a 200lb crazy asshole if the crazy asshole is shot in the head. The previous sentence is how I interpreted his comment and I don't see how anyone can argue that this is not true. We are often so eager to prove to those with differing opinions how pathetically wrong they are that we totally miss the actual argument that is being made, or misinterpret their words completely.. @@ramoncotta1264
Being a gun-guy for over 40 years, I stand by someone carrying the gun that they shoot well, is reliable, and that they will actually have on them every day. I have a .22LR next to me on the table as I type this. Nothing wrong with a .22LR, if you are competent with it. I used to be a .45ACP guy, then .357 mag, then went to a 45 Colt, then to a .38, then 9mm, and recently, I have made the decision to adopt a 380 for my daily carry. (I have carried the original LCP in a pocket for over 10 years, but it was a backup gun rather than the first response choice.) As I am getting older, the arthritis in my hands and wrists is what is dictating my dropping in caliber size. I was carrying a Sig P365 everywhere except in the shower (and even then, it was kept under the towel on the counter) - but over the past year, I have found it not to be as much fun to shoot as in past years. (weaker grip strength, aversion to recoil) - As such, I do not shoot with it as often as I need to in order to stay very proficient with it. I recently stumbled across a Ruger Security 380, and I found this to be a fantastic option for myself. I have had no issues with it in 250 rounds of ball ammo. Once I put another 150 rounds of ball, then 100 rounds of defense ammo through it, I will adopt it as my primary carry, assuming no issues during that 500 total rounds of testing. It has very little recoil, a super easy slide to operate, and is very affordable at around $300 It is not a bullseye gun, but like your 22LCR, this will put every round inside a 2-3 inch circle at fast-fire speeds at 7 yards. The ammo I personally opt for to carry in it is the Hornady Critical Defense. I also have a Ruger LCP that I pocket carry along with 2 mags. (I just bought the LCP Max and it shot poorly out of the box. It functioned fine, but shot about 8-10" below the point of aim. I installed the MCarbo 12# spring and their flat trigger. The 1st trip to the range, had about an 80% failure rate. I notice they sell an increased strength recoil spring, which should arrive tomorrow, so hopefully that fixes it, (If not, the factory parts go back in, with the exception of the trigger kit, as it is rather nice, and should not impact cycling) (With all factory parts installed, it had no malfunctions.) Once I get this one worked out and it is reliable 100% of the time, then I will retire the original LCP, and this will take the pocket carry place, along with a spare 10 round magazine. Then the Ruger Security 380 with 2 mags (10 and 15 rounders) on the strong side hip, OWB. - Yes, it is "just" a .380 in both guns, but there would also be over 45 rounds on my person, so there is that. I do carry a S&W 317, known as a kit gun when traveling or when in the woods. Great shooter, very accurate, and reliable as a rock. It is actually my wife's gun, so I will have to buy my own. Expensive guns, at around $675 or so, but very worth it. Thanks for sharing your caliber, and the reasons that made you decide on the gun and cartridge combo. Admittedly, if I could still wield my 1911 with precision, speed and accuracy, I would still be selecting it for carry. However, I found I can put the .380 rounds from the Security 380 gun in a group that is 3 times smaller than the 45's group when firing at fast speeds. (From the holster. I can put 10 rounds of the .380 on target, with accuracy (under 3"), followed by a mag change and another 15 rounds with accuracy (under 3") within a total of less than 9 seconds (typically in the high 7 seconds area) I can still shoot my 45, my 38, and the rest with accuracy, but only in slow fire, and only for a couple of shots. For me, it just makes sense to adapt and change to match my best ability I can put forth. Likely in 2 or 3 more years, one of those little LCR's or one of the 317's will find their way in to my pocket as my primary carry gun as well. Cheers!
@@anthonyangeli256 You are right! I just went back and read it, and I was rambling like an old widow woman. That was the result of good scotch at hand and too much free time! .....sorry 😂
@@44Mag no worries! I'm very fond of gun talk! BTW, I have a 317. Very nice piece. Don't like those locks though. That's exactly why I love older guns especially Smith's.
@@anthonyangeli256 I feel the same about the locks. The only revolver I have without it is a model 640-1 Pro Series DAO.357 All my others have that silly lock. I always fear them failing when you need the gun the most, although I have never had it happen, or even heard of it happening. Just a worry-wort I guess.
@@44Mag you like those concealed hammer jobs I see. I like the option to cock a revolver. I have an early Bersa thunder in 380 without the lock which I think is kinda rare. Nice piece. Fine shooter. Put a set of Altamonte wood grips on it.
Well said. I had an older range officer tell me a great truth years ago that was spot on..."If you're in a situation where you have to pull your gun, no need to kill them, you just want them to go away."
Terrible, dangerous advice, bordering on criminal. You should only draw your firearm if you need to use it to defend your life and you should always use it immediately after drawing it. Brandishing to intimidate is almost always a crime and, more importantly, reduces your advantage by diminishing your initiative capability.
Enjoyable to hear from someone who is speaking from the POV of self-defense and survival, rather than the excitement of shooting for the joy of target shooting
You're doing great. That's a nice gun, capable caliber, and easily carried. You're protecting your family and yourself. Thank you for sharing your thoughts with us.
Ive never had a problem for years I’ve carried a .22 LR or .22 WMR ! Two years ago I was finally able to find Federal Punch and I like it well. ! I also use and CCI Velocitor and have for years now! CCI Mini Mags have always been a favorite of mine every since they came on the market !
I agree with you completely. My daily CCW is a NAA Ranger ll. It’s very concealable and easy to shoot. The idea is to get out of a dangerous situation, and not to get into a major gunfight. Our philosophy for self defense is the same. Well said. Cheers!
@Turtle_Man_123 well said. Many years ago I taught a course on Situational Awareness. The point of the course was to help an individual to recognize different things that may develop into a bad situation and avoid them. Of course, you’re correct that any situation may turn into a major shitshow at a moment’s notice no matter what you do. Remember this most thugs are really cowards at heart. As long as you present a potential threat to them they don’t want any part of you. My last comment is simply this, train, train, and train some more. I’ve never been shot at, nor do I want to be. I don’t train very much anymore, but at 75 my situational awareness skills are quite good. No matter how much perfume is on it I can smell a shitshow a mile away. Take care and be safe. Cheers!
As Paul Harrell said: If it makes you feel safe and you’re proficient with it, it is the right gun for you. I trust a revolver in 22lr over a semi auto.
I have a friend (J. Nipper) who got shot with a .22 at point blank range. He was a big guy. The bullet turned when it hit a rib and traveled in a layer of fat just under the skin until it stopped at the ribs on his back. He then took the gun away from the punk a beat him with it until the police pulled him off. The would be assailant went to the ER unconscious and was treated for several days. Nipper went to the ER, where he had minor outpatient surgery to remove the slug then went home the same night.
If the .22 bullet had punctured his aorta he'd have dropped and died right there. Had he been shot in the throat it is likely he would have not been in any shape to take the bad guy's gun away and defend himself. Placement and reliability are everything. The OP's choice of weapon (a well made revolver) and ammo (Fed. Punch) effectively address the reliability issue with .22lr ammo, and the OP's ability to train extensively with his weapon due to the relative low price of 22lr self defense ammo and his comfort with the low recoil of his weapon effectively address the issue of placement. The OP's rational re his personal self defense is good, I would not want to be in the shoes of a criminal that threatens his safety. Your friend (J. Nipper) likely was shot by a bad guy that was not well trained. Personally I shoot 9mm well - choice of gun and caliber is a very individual thing though, and I respect the OP's choice, I know the .22lr can be effective with a good weapon, good choice of ammo, and good training. It certainly can also be a bad choice if care is not taken with regard to weapon, ammo and training though.@@ramoncotta1264
Around 2017 I helped a frail 67 year old woman pick her first conceal carry handgun and after a lot of looking and trying out some of my own handguns it became very apparent even my nifty little Kel-Tec P32 was too much issue of dealing with racking the slide she went with the Ruger LCR but in .22 Magnum. She still has it and carries it and has no issues shooting it.
Well done! That’s what I like to hear! One of the many reasons to be a gun guy is this reason right here! Sure we have to much but that’s a reason enough for folks that are interested in buying something we might have it for them to test out.
@@fredflinstone9774 I just got the P17 and I’m in love with that thing! For a long time I stayed away from it because I thought I would break it lol but I finally took the chance after about 2 years and got it about a week ago
Great video! I agree with your position. When I was a poor college student, I was a fan of S&W .22 LR revolvers for all kinds of shooting and and Beretta M22A Bobcats for CCW. I moved onto centerfire calibers but have been thinking about returning to .22 LR for CCW as I’m old now. I wanted a S&W .22 Centennial but have heard a lot of concerns about recent reliability. I’m thinking about the Ruger. I can generally still deal with heavy triggers. I’d be surprised if a poll was taken among professional felons if any would agree they they’d rather be taken care of with a .22 as opposed to a center fire. One caution I would add. Never underestimate what children can manage to do so always practice responsible ownership and take nothing for granted.
I accept every one of your reasons for carrying a .22 LCR and I wish I could FIND ONE! I have the .38 LCR. The LCRs DO have the SMOOTHEST double action trigger squeeze ever produced (except maybe a Manurin). I prefer single action so at first I kinda hated my LCR but when I got used to that DA only trigger pull, I was hitting soda cans at 15 yards on nearly every shot, including left handed. Thanks for making this video. I think I will try harder to find one like yours.
Thanks. I hope I don’t come across as wanting to tell people what to do or what to carry. Just wanted to share my journey and hope it may help some others decide what may be best for them. Happy New Year 👏
I worked in a Camden ER as a RN I saw enough gunshots to state confidently 1) Placement is priority one and two A 22 to the renal artery will have the target arrive to the ER requiring Cristal intervention- I am recalling an ER experience - outcome for the patient was a negative ……… THANK YOU for your video Real world- civilian practical Please continue these type of videos
MAAAAAAN I didn't know you had a channel! As far as the .22 thing goes. You pretty much nailed it. You're just trying to stop the threat and go home. The tool you practice with will always give you the best chances of doing that. Really well thought out and explained, love to see it man. Keep it up
Mr Rhett with his U tube channel "Demonstrated Concepts LLC", shows and proves this revolver time and time again! Rhett has over 8,000 rounds through his Ruger LCR 22LR and no issues! I LOVE this revolver! It's so good, I'm pretty sure Jesus would carry one.
Well laid out explanation for carrying this round. I appreciate the thoughtful discussion. We are all not Glock 19 carrying appendix, 17 hi-capacity magazines on person, body armor wearing, Tommy Tacticals! thanks for sharing!
You chose well, especially with Federal Punch ammo. Another great choice is Charter Arms Pathfinder in 22 LR and to swap out the exposed hammer with their concealed hammer spur for $30 direct from Charter.
Consider this. You can get that same gun at the same size and same price in 327 Federal Mag. Which means you could then run 32 H&R Mag which is pretty much the equivalent of 38 special with less recoil. Im just saying consider it because the stopping power increase would be dramatic and you wouldnt sacrifice anything.
I openly laughed out loud at this post. Both ammo types are impossible to find, and when 327 Magnum IS available it's insanely expensive. Don't get me wrong, I wanted an LCR in 327, but bought a 9mm and upgraded the grip for better control.
I own the LCRx in .327 Federal Magnum, and a S&W j-frame 43C in .22. The 327 ammo is absolutely available, but I prefer 32 H&R magnum in the LCRx over the 327 ammo. The 327 is up there near 357 magnum in recoil and blast, and the .32 mag is still 1050 fps in an LCR and has .38+P terminal ballistics. Each to his own. But my thesis is that .32 H&R mag and 327 mag ammo are both readily available.
Thank you for your informative video. I have had a gut feel that .22LR was a good round for me. You have given me great incentive to go with that for an everyday carry pistol. Like you, I don't want to invest in expensive guns shooting expensive ammo.
@@justsmy5677an expensive gun and expensive ammo could be prohibitive on the budget. if someone can only afford a .22, let them get one and train on it
22lr Snubby loaded with federal punch is the way to go. 8 shots, no FTF, no FTE, +12” of penetration through denim in gel. For edc it’s the perfect gun. Everyone thinks edc guns should be go to war gun. Mission drives the load out
Former paramedic and now retired ER PA here. I have seen plenty of people who got themselves shot with .22 LR. My impression is that no one likes to get shot, even just a little bit. My personal carry is a Ruger LCRX in .22 LR. I practice often, and I am good with it.
Im definitely more afraid of a 22 in practiced hands vs 9 in non-skilled hands. Some people seem to dismiss the caliber and unless they can show me their credentials, I can just dismiss their opinion.
Very nice choice, if I were to carry a rimfire i'd likely choose similarly. For your plinking ammo I'd reccomend some CCI, nothing wrong with the bulk federal but I've found CCI to be very nice and reliable out of my .22s.
The point-blank press slide-issue is definitely an underrated one, though I also think there's something to be said about the benefits of a lower report; you're almost certainly not going to have time to don hearing protection in a self-defense situation and the more of your hearing(and sense of balance) you can retain when firing the better.
That's something I've started valuing more of recently. I've heard the claim that 'your auditory systems shut down' in that kind of high stress situation, yet I wonder how many of those same people would be hesitant to use a 12 gauge indoors. I've gotten so concerned about my hearing (and tinnitus) that I've been regularly doubling up on hearing protection at the range, so if I'm not willing to chance that, why risk some internet anecdote that I don't have to if my life's on the line?
I have been carrying a Kel-Tec P17 in 22LR with the 16 round magazine for well over a year and I have been so Impressed with this gun that I purchased another and I now have two P17's with over 1000 rounds shooting in each and I have not experienced any Failures! I use only Quality 40 grain plated ammo from CCI Mini Mags. I shoot at my LGR once a week here in Florida at an indoor range and also at an outdoor range, 6 months a year! I'm now 79 years old and I can no longer handle the high caliber ammo and I had to switch to the 22LR & 22 Magnum guns because of nerve damage in my hands but I now shoot just as good as ever with these smaller round guns! I carry my P17 with confidence as my EDC!
Reliability of the .22 is largely a factor of what brand you buy, and what brand your gun likes. I have the S&W .22 Compact. I run CCI exclusively and have never had a problem. Remington bulk doens't work as well, in the semi, but worked well in my revolver. The .22 isn't the optimum round for defense, but it has certain qualities such as the ability to become very proficient with minimal training because of low recoil. Follow up shots are easy to put on target.
You know, I am an avid gun owner and carry daily. I have numberous rifles, shotguns, and pistols and revolvers in many calibers. To be honest, I love carrying my M&P 9 daily but recenty picked up a 22 mag 8 shot revelver. I is so light and comfortable I have been carrying that for a couple months. I don't feel underarmed either. If 8 shots of 22 mag (or lr) won't get it done provided there is only one or two targets which is to be expected, to hell with it. Good video.
Enjoyed your video and your take on the 22LR Ruger LCR. Looks like your LCR is equipped with an XS front sight. The wife and I both have these on our 22LR LCR revolvers. For us they are a big improvement over the OEM ramp front sights. For years there were an abundance of aftermarket front sights available for the 38/357 versions of LCR. Then a few years ago XS came out with front sights for the 22/327/9mm versions. For $39 you can't beat it.
I have a buddy who was a trauma surgeon and I asked him about handgun calibers. He said caliber doesn't matter on lethality as much as velocity of the projectile. I researched another trauma surgeon that was comparing calibers and while there were differences on 1 shot stops, at 2 shots everything levelled out and had much similar lethality. Whole lot easier to make a follow up show with a 22 than anything else.
The best gun to carry is the one that you can shoot with dead on accuracy. A well placed small bullet is better than one that didn't make it to target. Love the .22lr.
I have various calibers, and my go-to is a S&W compact .22, I love that gun and I'm super accurate with that puppy, think what you will, a couple of well placed .22 will definitely ruin your day.
My daily carry switches between a P365X and a S&W 442, but I'm becoming more and more intrigued by the LCR22, especially combined with Federal Punch. At the very least, if I can ever get my mom and/or sister to come around to firearm ownership and carrying, the LCR22 is the likely candidate for their first handgun.
I just recently purchased the LCRx 22mag with the 1 7/8" barrel. Absolutely love the pistol. The double action is very usable and single action is sweet. I have all the confidence in the world in myself with that pistol. As a member of a shooting range I go more than two times a week, it's located rather close to where I live and practice, practice, practice one handed two handed, two to the body one to the head, most any scenario you can think of. The only stipulation at our range is no drawing from the holster. The round of choice for me is the Punch by Federal or the Speer Gold Dot. That Punch round shoots a fireball out the end of the barrel that would scare the shit out of most anyone, especially at close range. I hope and pray the occasion never comes where it will be tested, but if that happens, I will be ready.
Nice revolver. Absolutely seems like a better option for SO many people. And yeah, the objective isn’t necessarily to actually kill someone, just protect ideally.
In a gunfight, you shoot to stop the threat, not protect. You can shoot a thug who is going to bleed out and die in 2 minutes. But in those 2 minutes, if you don't shoot him again, he may very well shoot and kill you.
@@justsmy5677spoken like a true gun virgin. The important gun is the one you are proficient with and is reliable. A DA .22revolver is more reliable than any DEAGLE and is cheap to get and stay proficient. Otherwise every “best handgun” would be a DEAGLE in .50. Fucksakes, Skippy, get over yourself.
The only gun videos I typically watch are sautéed shooting salads with plenty of history: C&R Arsenal, Forgotten Weapons, Hickok 45, Paul Harrel. This was honest. No bullshit. Humble. Great video.
I'm waiting for some 1911 guys to chime in and tell us all how magical the .45 ACP cartridge (which I also like) is, how is single handedly ended world war II, and is better than anything out there.
First, you aren’t alone in short stroking the Ruger. The return spring is very weak on it. That’s one of the reasons that I got rid of mine, and the other is that the grip is a little bulky for pocket carry. I ended going with the S&W 43C. It was more expensive but worth it IMO. That being said, I carry it everywhere for the same reasons you mentioned.
I discovered the wonderful 32 S&W long. It is a pure joy to shoot and with a wad cutter it has amazing accuracy, Now considered anemic but was once the round police relied on, I encourage everyone to try it!
I genuinely wish there could be a .32 revival; both in revolvers and pocket semis Unfortunately, I've had such a problem finding ammo, none the least revolvers (online, sure, but not in local shops) that I've always hesitated to take the leap, myself It seems like the ideal compromise (even the .32 ACP in pocket pistols), yet we just keep getting more and more ultra-9mms brought to market...
@@ScreechingPossum yes it is a pain to find but that shouldn't stop you from buying one, I was able to find ammo at gun shows. Also have you discovered Re-loading, I have one Hornaday and two Dillon presses, I make my own shotgun shells and can make about 40 different calibers of brass with the dies i've been collecting from gun shows, I make my own #8 lead shot for reloading and was making a box of winchester trap shells for $2.49 per box! because i was melting old lead so all i had to buy was primers powder and wads.
I have a few 327 federal rugar wheel guns..and they shoot about 5 different 32s..I love them for versatility with not too much recoil..from 32 short thru 327 magnum there are like 5 different size loads very handy and the 327 mag has ballistics just under a 357..and you get 6 rounds over 5 in small wheel guns
Nice video. Most successful defensive gun incidents are psychological stops. Often just pulling out the gun will stop the threat. Hearing the sound of the gun shot or feeling the pain of being hit will also likely stop the threat (though I think a larger caliber gun is more likely to cause more pain). If someone is really amped up and determined, a central nervous system shot is the only thing that will immediately stop the threat, and that can be hard with any caliber. So I agree with most of what you said about .22lr and, specifically, the LCR. Where I cringed a little is your scenario of someone holding you up and asking for what's in your pocket. If he's armed with a gun, he's likely pointing it directly at you, and no matter how fast you can draw your revolver, it is *extremely* unlikely you'll be able to draw from the drop without getting shot. My only other thought is about pocket carry. I almost never pocket carry any longer. If you go around with your hand in your pocket, then yes, it's a very fast draw. If not, it's too slow, and according to John Correia, gunfights are usually won by the guy who is the first to get a shot in the upper chest or head. With a good Kydex AIWB holster and a little practice you can develop a fast draw, and with an LCR, AIWB is as safe as pocket carry IMO. But no carry option is foolproof, and every defensive situation is different. It seems to come down to playing the odds, evaluating risk-benefit, and personal preference.
Yes there are some cases where attackers took a full cylinder of 357 Mag into the chest but still shooting back. I also read about such a case with 45 ACP.
I have an LCR in .22 LR and like it very much. Very lightweight. I have shot hundreds of rounds through it with all brands/types of ammo and it has been totally reliable. For anyone who wants a small handy .22 for defense or camping/fishing, I would highly recommend it.
@@wacobob56dad That is physically impossible to have more power but less recoil. And from what I have heard is that hot 327 has the recoil of mild 357.
Just caught your video. Good job. Was just wondering why Ruger didn’t make the 22 wmr in 8 rds. Kind of rhetorical. I would prefer the wmr in a 8 rd option.
This is such a good idea for my wife as I can't get her comfortable with any of my auto loaders (I'm a 1911 guy) so I tried this and it was sadly too much trigger pull in DAO so I put wadcutters in my smith five shot chief special and have the problem solved although I wish it had more capacity.
Just me, but for almost the exact same size & weight you can carry a 5-shot .38 with +P loads. Ive concealed carried the stainless version with the beveled hammer for 28 years in California. Yes, its got more kick than your .22 but i dont ever plan to use it unless im within 3 yards of someone.
I was in a life or death gunfire situation and the thing that instantly became clear to me was that I wanted a more effective weapon as the other guys had guns. If you’re fighting armed attackers you’re going to feel very under equipped with most pistols but especially a .22lr (I was carrying a S&W442 with 158gn buffalo bore ammo and it was extremely unpleasant)
I had a LCR 22. It was a good gun. The cylinder locked one time while at the range. One of the range officers took it to the gun smith to open it. Since that incident I carry semi auto. I would not want to go through a cylinder lock issue in a self defense situation.
@@pewpewTN If you are saying that a defender needs to kill an attacker immediately, that is not true, and it almost never happens. Only a break in contact is needed for self defense. As for an involuntary stop, a 22lr will incapacitate a threat with a heart or nervous system hit just like every other handgun round. And the "FIBS" factor applies in the same way.
Tony Kim, My main two choices are the LCR 22LR shot revolver and the new S&W Bodyguard 2.0!!! Have you checked it out yet? It is PHENOMINAL. Available with or without and external safety. I hope you pick one up and a do a review. Looking forward to it. Keep safe.
Those new Bodyguards look fantastic! I’d love to get one when money allows for it and I can afford a third caliber hahaha. All the reviews seem positive about it and seems like S&W took a lot of notes! Congrats
I had both the LCR in .357 and .22lr. I sold the .357 due to the cost of .38/.357 ammo. I have a number of 9mm but kept the .22 LCR. Lots of fun to shoot and the ammo is cheap. With descent ammo such as CCI it goes bang every time. If you can shoot a 14lb long trigger pull well, shooting pistols with 4-6lb pull are very easy. I wouldn't "unarmed" carrying the LCR .22lr, just practice a lot both dry fire and live fire. The reset on all the LCRs is very long and can easily be short stroked. Got to practice letting the trigger all the out for a good reset. The LCR has a great trigger pull but you pay for it with the reset. S&W has a better reset but not as good trigger pull.
Absolutely agree about the trigger. I’ve tried to practice with it multiple times a week to stay proficient and not short stroke it. It definitely makes my Glocks trigger feel feather light
What's really cool about a lot of 22 revolvers is they can come with an extra cylinder that will shoot 22 magnums. And that's also a pretty cost-effective way if you want to use a 22 but with a little more zip
I like Cci stingers too. It’s a 32gr projectile doing 1640fps and shot placement (of any caliber) is king. Enjoy your LCR. Great gun in any caliber 😎👍🏼
@@Dcm193 sure. Still the best 22lr for him to carry imo. Edit: I responded to call years ago and the stinger saved the life of a barber shop worker and his customer. Two stingers from a NAA .22lr ended the robbery that was escalating to a double homicide. Bad guy was DRT when we arrived. I’d definitely carry the stinger over standard 22 ammo IF carrying a 22lr. Whatever round carried shot placement is king. lol
Question, let’s say you do have a dud round. Will the revolver go to the next round? I know simi autos won’t. You’ll have to manually eject them before firing the next round.
Thanks for the video. I agree with much of what you have said. I am eagerly waiting for an LCR-22lr to test our new Zeta6 speedloaders in (yep, for 8-round 22lr). Ruger did a great thing by making this revolver.
I've an lcr in 38s. Shortly after I got it something broke and it locked up. I was in the habit, like you, of dry firing. Rugar fixed it but I seldom dry fire it and it's been perfect for many years
Most modern Ruger .22 caliber firearms are supposedly able to tolerate dry-fire, but I still dislike it without at least using yellow drywall anchors (the same size and shape as .22LR cartridges.)
@Just1American1966 so far my LCR has something like a thousand dry snaps on it, so I just don't worry about it Of course with it being a revolver I could just use once fired brass which might actually be a good idea
I’m not the type of person to disrespect someone and not trying to here, but did you say at 3:00 something to the affect that you’re not trying to kill someone you just want to put a few rounds and go about your business. Do you really think a 22 won’t kill somebody? Look up the story about Trooper Mark Hunter Coates as a matter of fact, I’ll give you a quick rundown the trooper shot the suspect 5 times with a 357 mag the bad guy not only survived but killed the Trooper after he shot him twice with a 22LR and not to mention the Trooper was wearing a vest. You should really educate yourself about firearms and ammunition before making a video.
I’ve seen them as low as $409, but most of the time they’re $489-$499. If I ever see one at $400, I’m gonna grab it. But honestly the TX22 Compact is a ton of fun and has been crazy reliable…and suppresses. But I’d only carry a revolver if I went to 22LR.I wish the trigger pull could get down to 9-10# versus 15+.
I like your choice. I tried to get the 3-inch model in .22 lr, but was outbid. I got the 3-inch Ruger LCR in .38 Special. I handload, so I can afford to shoot .38 spc. I also cast my own bullets.
My wife hates recoil. I bought her one of these. She loves it and is accurate with it. Recoil doesn't bother me but I shot her LCR 22 and really liked it. Bought one for myself. Unlike a semi auto if a 22 doesn't fire in this revolver, just pull the trigger again. Also bought each of us two speed loaders. Cheap to shoot and practice with.
For all the same reasons stated in the video, a SOLID second choice here would be a Ruger LCR/x in .327 Federal Magnum. If you can pop off 8 rounds of 15-pound trigger pull .22LR, you can pop off 6 rounds of 10-pound trigger pull .32 S&W Long, with barely more recoil, a lot more energy, bigger caliber, more reliable ignition. Just saying.
In a defense situation you most likely aren't going to have time to use your sights. Practice something similar like they taught the SOG soldiers in Vietnam which is to shoot from the hip accurately and faster than fast. They had a training class called the kill drill and they would practice shooting plate size targets at first then smaller and smaller until the disks were quarter sized thrown into the air until they could hit them consistently when carrying the gun low and shooting from that position. By the time you line up your sights you will be needing cork to plug your leaks. Nice gun you have there, wish I had a 22 revolver.
I agree. I Pick my carry piece by how well it naturally aims and if I need to adjust my aim after raising it. That's why I carry my taurus gx4 instead of my other larger pistols that have a longer sight radius. You would think the longer sight radius has the quicker better natural point of aim but so far its my gx4 or my 5 shot ultralight 38
I carry a 22 revolver similar to that but I also have the semi-auto Beretta 22 that fits in your pocket for extra ammo. I know those aren't the most reliable so I pretty much have the best of both worlds of reliability and capacity
Tony speaks his truth, and it's very close to my own. Whatever I am comfortable with, and competent in shooting, that should be my primary carry. 22LR is very popular around my house.
Since you mentioned the reliability of .22lr in semi-automatics: I have a Beretta 71 in .22lr and the reliability of this little pistol is fantastic. The only hick-ups it had was when I fed it Russian "Vostok" ammo from 1972.
I had a friend who grew up in Mexico and had seen many people shot with a .22 LR. He said that the ones that were fortunate enough to have survived often wished they had not survived.
Doesn't dry clicking a rim fire revolver cause the firing pin to deform and 'peen?' I saw you pull the trigger on empty chambers quite a few times there. If it doesn't hit the rim of a bullet, it hits the cylinder, right? Deforming the cylinder and firing pin.
A few months ago, I saw a used S&W 43C laying in an obscure shelf corner at a local shop and thought for a while "Why would anyone want that?" Well, I've been having issues for years with airweight revolvers and the micro-9 fad that I decided to look into it. After videos like yours (hey, blame the algorithm), I threw a spare Altamont grip on it before the background check even cleared and I've been sold ever since. It's lighter than even my Glock 42 (another underrated gun), I appreciate being able to stage the trigger for longer range shots while my ears might appreciate should the day comes to use a few rounds of .22 over even one 9mm (my wallet sure does). Just want to say thanks for helping me bag a keeper. 👍
People want more capacity and more mm sometimes for all the wrong reasons. Sometimes our tools need to fit our lives and not the other way around. I never thought I’d help someone in that manner but I’m humbled and grateful for you sharing that. Thank you. Be safe 🙏
If the situation has escalated to the use of a firearm you're already using deadly force be it 22LR or 357 magnum, a 22LR can definitely kill in the right location or if untreated. You can't "take back" pulling a gun out and if the other party is determined you need to be mentally prepared to pull the trigger and every pull of the trigger could kill someone intended or otherwise. Rifles get enough velocity to create significant wound cavities, pistols can really only poke holes until whatever it is attacking you has lost blood pressure or you score a shot to the central nervous system. So the bigger the holes the better. Using a small, low velocity bullet is putting your life and potentially other people's lives in danger if you need it to stop an attacker. Anything is better than nothing, train and be proficient with what you have but, I think anything in 22LR is a false sense of security for defending against other people. Of all the people in the comments section speaking in favor of the 22LR for self defense I wonder how many are hunters of medium sized game. Spending time performing an animal necropsy is immensely educational, seeing the actual terminal performance of a given bullet would do wonders to dispel this fantasy of "noone would want to be shot by a 22LR." Noone wants to be shot period but if you absolutely need to stop someone you need to stop them and a 22LR is not an appropriate choice to make someone stop. That or just watch a few police shooting videos, often times it takes many shots with a larger caliber to stop someone who is still fighting. If you look at people like Elmer Keith (the father of big bore revolver cartridges) he incidentally figured out that bigger, heavier bullets at pistol velocities were better for shots that weren't 100% perfect, something like a 22 can easily glance off bones where larger calibers will tend break them; it's pretty crazy to think anyone in a self-defense situation will have the presence of mind and motor control to make perfect shots. Many larger calibers give you a buffer, where you don't have to worry about hitting bones or weird changes in tissue densities; and if your life or someone else's life depends on it you better take whatever you can get. If you can't carry a rifle the balance is this: use the largest caliber you can reliably shoot accurately, if that's 22LR then it's better than nothing but if you can shoot something bigger you definitely should be. The LCR is a great platform, good size, good manufacturer, good trigger. I actually own the 357 LCR but I really only carry 38 spcl+P rounds in it, shooting 357 is like having a flashbang go off in your face/hand.
-You listed all good reasons for carrying that 22 revolver and you are more prepared than the majority of citizens. Good video.
I appreciate the view and support!
if you can curl your toes up and kick the shin of a man who's 3 ft away in half a second, you're more preparted than 90% of people, so the .22 means virtually nothing in that regard.
As a cop I saw a great deal of gunshot recipients, different calibers and gauges and most went to the ER and some to the graveyard. The .22 was involved in many. You should never laugh at or underestimate a .22......ever.
100%man!!
A .22 will easily penetrate a skull and scramble brains there are youtube videos of it going through car doors. It will also easily collapse a lung or two. Makes me lol when folks think a .22 is a bb gun.
That's what Texas Red carried, and the notches on his pistol numbered one and nineteen more! Seriously, the best carry gun is the one you carry everyday, as criminals and crazies do not make appointments!
@Jesus.X The only misunderstanding I find with people and 22 is they don't realize shooting out of a pistol knocks off a good 3-400fps of the factory claims. If you are getting 1200fps out of a rifle you will get at best 900fps out of a little 3inch barrel so the round is not as potent or at full potential. It's still plenty power to kill though.
I was a medic in the day, A 22 LR bullet to the chest could end up in your kneecap. Resulting in a lot more damage than a 9mm.
Never apologize, you got what you got, and run it, period
Running is precisely what I suggest if you’re carrying a .22
@@moreme40 🤣🤣🤣 also carry a knife .
A burst of 22 rimfire is nasty. I guess the fantasy "Hollywood shootout" is out of the question tho. 😊
@Turtle_Man_123 turtle man your awsome ! 👌
@Turtle_Man_123 colt 1911 ?
Excellent choice for carry. I too carry a 22LR Revolver. 9 shots. Extremely reliable. 😊
Yeah if you got something that takes more than 9 shots of anything, you made a bad choice somewhere in that event.
Can you give just one example-just one- of a bad decision that would lead someone to have a handgun with a capacity of nine bullets or more?
@@autocompletellc9906 what?
@@AD-ln2xu I only speak English, sorry.
@@autocompletellc9906It's better to have more and not need it then have less and need it . Sometimes you have multiple threats or someone needs more rounds to stop.
Well done
Well balance and humble
We need more of this in the 2A community
Thank you. And I absolutely agree. 100%
@@KnifeNinjaEDC Your reasoning is not logical. The chances are that your prospective attacker will have a larger caliber and higher capacity gun.
SO WHY RISK IT? It's got nothing to do with price either. You can get .380's and 9mm for the same kind of price.
No Recoil = NOT ENOUGH POWER.
PS: Targets in real life have a habit of moving quickly and shooting back too. Nothing like down the range!
@@GMT439 But .22lr basically does have higher FPS than say .45acp which means it's easier to hit a moving target than .45acp and easier to manage recoil also makes it easier to hit a moving target than with .45acp. Less recoil means being able to manage the pistol and get it back on sight quicker which means quicker more accurate follow up shots.
@@RepublicFREEmanfps has nothing to do with why a 230 grain 45 has more recoil than a tiny 40 grain .22
Folks, carry what you want. This is a deep concealment/backup gun. You can clearly see in the video I have another firearm. I’m not trying to change anyone’s hearts and minds. I just wanted to make a video explaining why I choose this sometimes. That’s all, not trying to change the world. I’m just a regular working dude with a kid to look after. Stay safe and be kind 🙏
I think you should really rethink some of your reasoning for picking this model of handgun as a defensive option. The only real "good" reasons I can think of for 22 over some of the more "standard" cartridges like 9mm is recoil and capacity. However on a compact gun like this you need to ask yourself; Is the reduction in recoil really going to help you in a defensive situation? I understand that you may think 22 is lethal enough for a headshot, but in reality in a life threatening situation, It's much more likely you'll be aiming at the chest. Maybe you won't have time to aim at all and you'll just be pointing it in their general direction. The reason 9mm, or .38 spc if you prefer a compact revolver like this, and others are standardized by many is not because they leave a "bigger hole" (ANY hole from any caliber can and WILL kill you if it's placed correctly), It's because they have the force nessecarry to break through the bones and tissue in front of the chest or an aggressor's arms in certain circumstances. If someone was holding a gun at you with both hands, and you shot at their chest, a .22 can potentially be stopped by the sternum and ribs, and definitely won't make it through their hands/arms into their vitals.
So unless you're enfeebled (You don't appear to be) or that's all you have I wouldn't be running a .22 handgun for protection.
If you need more you may want to frequent nicer areas with fewer enemies.
@@IndianaIsntRealcan you clearly not see the other firearm in the video? And what experience and credentials do you have? So I can understand who I am speaking to
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and you need to rethink things concerning your opinions and the opinions of others because you seem to be really, really, really concerned with his choice of CC.....his SOMETIMES gun of choice mind you. This Ruger isn't his only handgun either and I think the OP is going to be just fine. I know that there have probably been many cases in which a person has been killed while attempting to defend themself and/or his/her loved ones while carrying a handgun with a powerful centerfire caliber. Of course, I am without a shred of doubt that there have been plenty of folks who were carrying a handgun chambered in the diminutive 22lr that stopped an attacker in his/her/shem's tracks. I didn't intend to come across as an asshole by writing "and you need to....blah, blah, blah. It's not my place to tell you what to consider or reconsider so I should not have typed that sentence. Live and learn and some lessons are understood within seconds or minutes of the mistake and some we never understand.
@@IndianaIsntReal
Goes in a pocket, almost as light as a wallet, bullets won't go through houses, revolvers don't stove-pipe, less likely to be deaf from the first shot. Love the little LCR!
People never take into account you have to call 911 after, you have to be able to hear.
Never apologize for self defense and freedom!!!! Keep it up brother
I think you made a good choice. A cool head with a .22 is better than a hot head with a .44.
But a cool head with a .44 is better than a hothead with a .22
I have a dinky little 10-shot Beretta .22 that I don't feel undergunned at all with.
@@roentgen571 Yeah - I carry a Ruger LCP II .22LR (10+1) loaded with either Federal Punch or CC1 mini mags on my morning neighborhood walk every day. I thought I was going to get into it with a pack of coyotes one morning recently that didn't run off when I yelled at them. We had a short stand off and I had the Ruger out and they thought better of it and took off.
But not compared to a cool headed person with a .44
A cool head with a .44 is worth three with a .22…
OK, you just made me realize how old I really am. I can remember buying a carton (yes, like a milk carton) of 500 Remington Yellowjackets for less than 20 bucks. those days are long gone now. I've had my little Beretta Bobcat for almost 40 years. Still goes bang every time.
Roger that ! I remember buying 500 round bricks of Remington Thunderbolts for $8 at the local hardware store in the rural town I was raised in.
@shadowwolf9503 I hear ya man. Used to buy bricks like that from the gun shows. 8 bricks will fit on end, in a 50 cal ammo can, for safe storage too!!!
I remember Boy Scout camp charging me 2.5 cents a round for .22lr ammo when I was getting my marksman badge.
@@tombeyer375 Yeah, I've got several metal military ammo cans- and 3 are the big 50 caliber.
@@deandeann1541 I was in the Boy Scouts way back in '79-81. I made Patrol Leader after my 1st month. Fun times !
This is a great firearm: small, lightweight, comfortable. I had one years ago and sold to a friend in my pursuit of something “bigger and better”. Now I’m of a mindset to sell off my “bigger and betters” and get back to this. Imminently more carryable and cheaper to shoot. One of my favorite guns I’ve owned.
Doing same.
I’ve had the same gun in 22lr. Always shoots and easy to carry and conceal 😊
I'm looking for one as a backup when I out fishing and deer hunting good finish shot calibre
Been considering the same thing! Found my Winchester Wildcat rifle with a couple Ruger mags, and my Keltec P17 make a great combo. But also have the Ruger LCR in 22 that I love. Just way easier to carry extra ammo with.
The guy on the video expressed a very humble opinion about his choice of firearm making very clear about the choices he makes based on his priorities, family and financial status. He was very clear about not pushing his stance on anybody, just expressing a personal opinion. Of course the trolling a**holes that know everything came out with a bunch of stupid sarcastic comments. They have to boast and ridicule as the bullies they are. Comments like “I’ll run if I have a 22” or better “carry a knife” and many others show how immature they are. Live and let live. As a person with hand arthritis I can’t hardly rack most guns and a smaller caliber like 380 is better for me. A bullet will kill or at least incapacitate an attacker at a distance unlike the famous comment about the knife unless you are an expert knife thrower and carry a bunch of them like in the movies. Just wanted to express my thoughts about thoughtless people.
I've x-rayed plenty of criminals in a trauma setting with .22 in their chest. It stopped them and they were all crying. Great video!
There was another video I watched where a medical guy said that the reputation the .22 has for bouncing around inside a chest cavity like a pinball was unfounded and that it behaves pretty much like other bullets. Do you concur with that?
@@highdesertutahdumb round, use a real round… smh a REVOLVER? What a joke, this yt guy needs to stop.
@@ZxAMobilethe revolver is fine, the lcr is a great weapon…in any other caliber than this. I have no clue why you’d carry .22lr when they make the exact weapon in .38 and .357, it’s plain stupidity.
@@throbbinwoodofcoxley6830 yeah but why use something that is just fine why not use the best in each category of virtually everything you use in life why settle for some crappy second-rate BS? People try to make the argument like there's money constraint but the same people that make that argument are blowing their money on stupid stuff 24/7 then they cheap out on the things that actually matter and make excuses for it
@@throbbinwoodofcoxley6830 Cost of ammo?
I use to be a public safety officer in Florida. A part of what I was trained for was to dispatch sick and injured animals, sometimes I had to put down injured cattle. My point is, if I could put down a 2000 pound bull with 22 LR, your Ruger 22lr is a good self defense weapon.
It's all about where you put it. To the brain, or a vital organ, and Zeds dead baby, Zed's dead.
Yeah. I used to raise cows. They generally just stand there. I never was able to have one of them pick up a gun, and I never heard of a criminal standing still and letting you pop one in the brain-box. I submit it is a false equivalence because I have killed 400 lb. pigs with a baseball bat and would never carry a baseball bat for self defense unless there is nothing else at hand.
@@ramoncotta1264 I've had 200 lb. pigs pick up a baseball bat and beat the hell out of me for my "Eat More Bacon" t-shirt. I wish I had carried a bat that day.
@@ramoncotta1264 Why would you kill a pig with a bat?
He wasn't claiming that anyone would stand still and allow someone to pop off a few rounds into someone's head. He mentioned that the 22lr can kill a 2000lb bull/cow because he wanted to convey that the 22lr is not only lethal but that it can stop any would-be attacker when shots are fired accurately at vital CNS targets. I should have kept this much shorter by stating that if a 22lr can drop a bull with a headshot then a 22lr can stop a 200lb crazy asshole if the crazy asshole is shot in the head. The previous sentence is how I interpreted his comment and I don't see how anyone can argue that this is not true. We are often so eager to prove to those with differing opinions how pathetically wrong they are that we totally miss the actual argument that is being made, or misinterpret their words completely.. @@ramoncotta1264
Being a gun-guy for over 40 years, I stand by someone carrying the gun that they shoot well, is reliable, and that they will actually have on them every day.
I have a .22LR next to me on the table as I type this. Nothing wrong with a .22LR, if you are competent with it.
I used to be a .45ACP guy, then .357 mag, then went to a 45 Colt, then to a .38, then 9mm, and recently, I have made the decision to adopt a 380 for my daily carry. (I have carried the original LCP in a pocket for over 10 years, but it was a backup gun rather than the first response choice.)
As I am getting older, the arthritis in my hands and wrists is what is dictating my dropping in caliber size. I was carrying a Sig P365 everywhere except in the shower (and even then, it was kept under the towel on the counter) - but over the past year, I have found it not to be as much fun to shoot as in past years. (weaker grip strength, aversion to recoil) - As such, I do not shoot with it as often as I need to in order to stay very proficient with it.
I recently stumbled across a Ruger Security 380, and I found this to be a fantastic option for myself. I have had no issues with it in 250 rounds of ball ammo. Once I put another 150 rounds of ball, then 100 rounds of defense ammo through it, I will adopt it as my primary carry, assuming no issues during that 500 total rounds of testing.
It has very little recoil, a super easy slide to operate, and is very affordable at around $300
It is not a bullseye gun, but like your 22LCR, this will put every round inside a 2-3 inch circle at fast-fire speeds at 7 yards.
The ammo I personally opt for to carry in it is the Hornady Critical Defense.
I also have a Ruger LCP that I pocket carry along with 2 mags.
(I just bought the LCP Max and it shot poorly out of the box. It functioned fine, but shot about 8-10" below the point of aim. I installed the MCarbo 12# spring and their flat trigger. The 1st trip to the range, had about an 80% failure rate. I notice they sell an increased strength recoil spring, which should arrive tomorrow, so hopefully that fixes it, (If not, the factory parts go back in, with the exception of the trigger kit, as it is rather nice, and should not impact cycling)
(With all factory parts installed, it had no malfunctions.)
Once I get this one worked out and it is reliable 100% of the time, then I will retire the original LCP, and this will take the pocket carry place, along with a spare 10 round magazine. Then the Ruger Security 380 with 2 mags (10 and 15 rounders) on the strong side hip, OWB. - Yes, it is "just" a .380 in both guns, but there would also be over 45 rounds on my person, so there is that.
I do carry a S&W 317, known as a kit gun when traveling or when in the woods. Great shooter, very accurate, and reliable as a rock.
It is actually my wife's gun, so I will have to buy my own. Expensive guns, at around $675 or so, but very worth it.
Thanks for sharing your caliber, and the reasons that made you decide on the gun and cartridge combo.
Admittedly, if I could still wield my 1911 with precision, speed and accuracy, I would still be selecting it for carry. However, I found I can put the .380 rounds from the Security 380 gun in a group that is 3 times smaller than the 45's group when firing at fast speeds. (From the holster. I can put 10 rounds of the .380 on target, with accuracy (under 3"), followed by a mag change and another 15 rounds with accuracy (under 3") within a total of less than 9 seconds (typically in the high 7 seconds area)
I can still shoot my 45, my 38, and the rest with accuracy, but only in slow fire, and only for a couple of shots.
For me, it just makes sense to adapt and change to match my best ability I can put forth. Likely in 2 or 3 more years, one of those little LCR's or one of the 317's will find their way in to my pocket as my primary carry gun as well.
Cheers!
That was a long story , but I liked it.
@@anthonyangeli256 You are right! I just went back and read it, and I was rambling like an old widow woman. That was the result of good scotch at hand and too much free time! .....sorry 😂
@@44Mag no worries! I'm very fond of gun talk! BTW, I have a 317. Very nice piece. Don't like those locks though. That's exactly why I love older guns especially Smith's.
@@anthonyangeli256 I feel the same about the locks. The only revolver I have without it is a model 640-1 Pro Series DAO.357
All my others have that silly lock. I always fear them failing when you need the gun the most, although I have never had it happen, or even heard of it happening. Just a worry-wort I guess.
@@44Mag you like those concealed hammer jobs I see. I like the option to cock a revolver. I have an early Bersa thunder in 380 without the lock which I think is kinda rare. Nice piece. Fine shooter. Put a set of Altamonte wood grips on it.
The Ruger LCR in .22LR is a *great* tool for your toolbox. Excellent choice!
Right on
Well said. I had an older range officer tell me a great truth years ago that was spot on..."If you're in a situation where you have to pull your gun, no need to kill them, you just want them to go away."
Terrible, dangerous advice, bordering on criminal. You should only draw your firearm if you need to use it to defend your life and you should always use it immediately after drawing it. Brandishing to intimidate is almost always a crime and, more importantly, reduces your advantage by diminishing your initiative capability.
im pretty sure hes not saying dont shoot at all . just no need to outright go for a kill unless youre a psychopath @@Minecraftmike5089
Enjoyable to hear from someone who is speaking from the POV of self-defense and survival, rather than the excitement of shooting for the joy of target shooting
You're doing great. That's a nice gun, capable caliber, and easily carried. You're protecting your family and yourself. Thank you for sharing your thoughts with us.
Thank you as well. I hope you and yours stay safe out there ❤
Ive never had a problem for years I’ve carried a .22 LR or .22 WMR !
Two years ago I was finally able to find Federal Punch and I like it well. !
I also use and CCI Velocitor and have for years now!
CCI Mini Mags have always been a favorite of mine every since they came on the market !
I think your reasoning is perfectly sound! I just might pick one up myself. Thank you for the vid!
I agree with you completely. My daily CCW is a NAA Ranger ll. It’s very concealable and easy to shoot. The idea is to get out of a dangerous situation, and not to get into a major gunfight. Our philosophy for self defense is the same. Well said. Cheers!
@Turtle_Man_123 well said. Many years ago I taught a course on Situational Awareness. The point of the course was to help an individual to recognize different things that may develop into a bad situation and avoid them. Of course, you’re correct that any situation may turn into a major shitshow at a moment’s notice no matter what you do. Remember this most thugs are really cowards at heart. As long as you present a potential threat to them they don’t want any part of you. My last comment is simply this, train, train, and train some more. I’ve never been shot at, nor do I want to be. I don’t train very much anymore, but at 75 my situational awareness skills are quite good. No matter how much perfume is on it I can smell a shitshow a mile away. Take care and be safe. Cheers!
LOVE this! Absolutely nothing wrong with a 22LR. Hitting the vitals is key. Easy to shoot well, practical, inexpensive to shoot, deadly.
As Paul Harrell said: If it makes you feel safe and you’re proficient with it, it is the right gun for you.
I trust a revolver in 22lr over a semi auto.
Love the Paul Harrell shoutout 👊
I have a friend (J. Nipper) who got shot with a .22 at point blank range. He was a big guy. The bullet turned when it hit a rib and traveled in a layer of fat just under the skin until it stopped at the ribs on his back. He then took the gun away from the punk a beat him with it until the police pulled him off. The would be assailant went to the ER unconscious and was treated for several days. Nipper went to the ER, where he had minor outpatient surgery to remove the slug then went home the same night.
If the .22 bullet had punctured his aorta he'd have dropped and died right there. Had he been shot in the throat it is likely he would have not been in any shape to take the bad guy's gun away and defend himself. Placement and reliability are everything. The OP's choice of weapon (a well made revolver) and ammo (Fed. Punch) effectively address the reliability issue with .22lr ammo, and the OP's ability to train extensively with his weapon due to the relative low price of 22lr self defense ammo and his comfort with the low recoil of his weapon effectively address the issue of placement. The OP's rational re his personal self defense is good, I would not want to be in the shoes of a criminal that threatens his safety.
Your friend (J. Nipper) likely was shot by a bad guy that was not well trained.
Personally I shoot 9mm well - choice of gun and caliber is a very individual thing though, and I respect the OP's choice, I know the .22lr can be effective with a good weapon, good choice of ammo, and good training. It certainly can also be a bad choice if care is not taken with regard to weapon, ammo and training though.@@ramoncotta1264
Paul Harrell- "Now I'm going to engage the target with nothing..."
Paul Harrell also said in that same video that .22LR is not the smart choice for SD carry.
People don’t like it when you start putting HOLES IN THEM.
Around 2017 I helped a frail 67 year old woman pick her first conceal carry handgun and after a lot of looking and trying out some of my own handguns it became very apparent even my nifty little Kel-Tec P32 was too much issue of dealing with racking the slide she went with the Ruger LCR but in .22 Magnum. She still has it and carries it and has no issues shooting it.
Well done! That’s what I like to hear! One of the many reasons to be a gun guy is this reason right here! Sure we have to much but that’s a reason enough for folks that are interested in buying something we might have it for them to test out.
i would have an lcr in 22 mag but i do wish they would make it an 8 shot like the taurus or even 7 like the smith
I bought a Ruger LCR .22 magnum for my 75 year old mom. It was what she could handle with her weak hands.
Keltec P17
@@fredflinstone9774 I just got the P17 and I’m in love with that thing! For a long time I stayed away from it because I thought I would break it lol but I finally took the chance after about 2 years and got it about a week ago
I've always been a wheel gun guy. What I carried in my early years as a cop til we made the switch 5 years in. You make a great argument.
Great video! I agree with your position. When I was a poor college student, I was a fan of S&W .22 LR revolvers for all kinds of shooting and and Beretta M22A Bobcats for CCW. I moved onto centerfire calibers but have been thinking about returning to .22 LR for CCW as I’m old now. I wanted a S&W .22 Centennial but have heard a lot of concerns about recent reliability. I’m thinking about the Ruger. I can generally still deal with heavy triggers. I’d be surprised if a poll was taken among professional felons if any would agree they they’d rather be taken care of with a .22 as opposed to a center fire. One caution I would add. Never underestimate what children can manage to do so always practice responsible ownership and take nothing for granted.
This is an excellent gun. Well made, reliable,safe to carry. The ruger sr22 is also a very reliable 22.
Have and love both
I accept every one of your reasons for carrying a .22 LCR and I wish I could FIND ONE! I have the .38 LCR. The LCRs DO have the SMOOTHEST double action trigger squeeze ever produced (except maybe a Manurin). I prefer single action so at first I kinda hated my LCR but when I got used to that DA only trigger pull, I was hitting soda cans at 15 yards on nearly every shot, including left handed. Thanks for making this video. I think I will try harder to find one like yours.
I have an LCRx in .22lr
3” barrel, exposed hammer, adjustable sights. I love that thing.
I went with the .327 version, shoot H&R Magnum, virtually no recoil and center fire
I really appreciate your intentions and clarity as a gun owner
Thanks. I hope I don’t come across as wanting to tell people what to do or what to carry. Just wanted to share my journey and hope it may help some others decide what may be best for them. Happy New Year 👏
I worked in a Camden ER as a RN
I saw enough gunshots to state confidently
1) Placement is priority one and two
A 22 to the renal artery will have the target arrive to the ER requiring Cristal intervention- I am recalling an ER experience - outcome for the patient was a negative
……… THANK YOU for your video
Real world- civilian practical
Please continue these type of videos
Translate to English, please. Thanks.
MAAAAAAN I didn't know you had a channel! As far as the .22 thing goes. You pretty much nailed it. You're just trying to stop the threat and go home. The tool you practice with will always give you the best chances of doing that. Really well thought out and explained, love to see it man. Keep it up
What’s up, Joey! Yessir! Skills trump equipment 👏
Mr Rhett with his U tube channel "Demonstrated Concepts LLC", shows and proves this revolver time and time again! Rhett has over 8,000 rounds through his Ruger LCR 22LR and no issues! I LOVE this revolver! It's so good, I'm pretty sure Jesus would carry one.
Well laid out explanation for carrying this round. I appreciate the thoughtful discussion. We are all not Glock 19 carrying appendix, 17 hi-capacity magazines on person, body armor wearing, Tommy Tacticals! thanks for sharing!
Thanks man. Sometimes people want to sound so hard online. Real world tools for real world people. Stay safe
You chose well, especially with Federal Punch ammo.
Another great choice is Charter Arms Pathfinder in 22 LR and to swap out the exposed hammer with their concealed hammer spur for $30 direct from Charter.
I love the Federal Punch ammo!
Be sure to check the timing on ANY Charter Arms revolvers.
Consider this. You can get that same gun at the same size and same price in 327 Federal Mag. Which means you could then run 32 H&R Mag which is pretty much the equivalent of 38 special with less recoil. Im just saying consider it because the stopping power increase would be dramatic and you wouldnt sacrifice anything.
If you can find either of those ammo in stock.
I openly laughed out loud at this post. Both ammo types are impossible to find, and when 327 Magnum IS available it's insanely expensive. Don't get me wrong, I wanted an LCR in 327, but bought a 9mm and upgraded the grip for better control.
I think the 327 version is heavier.
An excellent point, I entirely agree. The .327 is an excellent caliber for a reloader, this easily addresses the availability concerns or the .327.
I own the LCRx in .327 Federal Magnum, and a S&W j-frame 43C in .22. The 327 ammo is absolutely available, but I prefer 32 H&R magnum in the LCRx over the 327 ammo. The 327 is up there near 357 magnum in recoil and blast, and the .32 mag is still 1050 fps in an LCR and has .38+P terminal ballistics. Each to his own. But my thesis is that .32 H&R mag and 327 mag ammo are both readily available.
I love the 22, first pistol I fired was a 22. It’s a fun round to shoot. I think I’ll get a revolver like yours. Thanks
Thank you for your informative video. I have had a gut feel that .22LR was a good round for me. You have given me great incentive to go with that for an everyday carry pistol. Like you, I don't want to invest in expensive guns shooting expensive ammo.
An expensive gun with expensive ammo, could be the best investment you ever make. There are often no second chances in a gun fight.
@@justsmy5677an expensive gun and expensive ammo could be prohibitive on the budget. if someone can only afford a .22, let them get one and train on it
22lr Snubby loaded with federal punch is the way to go. 8 shots, no FTF, no FTE, +12” of penetration through denim in gel. For edc it’s the perfect gun. Everyone thinks edc guns should be go to war gun. Mission drives the load out
Former paramedic and now retired ER PA here. I have seen plenty of people who got themselves shot with .22 LR. My impression is that no one likes to get shot, even just a little bit. My personal carry is a Ruger LCRX in .22 LR. I practice often, and I am good with it.
Im definitely more afraid of a 22 in practiced hands vs 9 in non-skilled hands. Some people seem to dismiss the caliber and unless they can show me their credentials, I can just dismiss their opinion.
Very nice choice, if I were to carry a rimfire i'd likely choose similarly. For your plinking ammo I'd reccomend some CCI, nothing wrong with the bulk federal but I've found CCI to be very nice and reliable out of my .22s.
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@@ZxAMobile stop what?
The point-blank press slide-issue is definitely an underrated one, though I also think there's something to be said about the benefits of a lower report; you're almost certainly not going to have time to don hearing protection in a self-defense situation and the more of your hearing(and sense of balance) you can retain when firing the better.
That's something I've started valuing more of recently. I've heard the claim that 'your auditory systems shut down' in that kind of high stress situation, yet I wonder how many of those same people would be hesitant to use a 12 gauge indoors.
I've gotten so concerned about my hearing (and tinnitus) that I've been regularly doubling up on hearing protection at the range, so if I'm not willing to chance that, why risk some internet anecdote that I don't have to if my life's on the line?
I have been carrying a Kel-Tec P17 in 22LR with the 16 round magazine for well over a year and I have been so Impressed with this gun that I purchased another and I now have two P17's with over 1000 rounds shooting in each and I have not experienced any Failures! I use only Quality 40 grain plated ammo from CCI Mini Mags. I shoot at my LGR once a week here in Florida at an indoor range and also at an outdoor range, 6 months a year! I'm now 79 years old and I can no longer handle the high caliber ammo and I had to switch to the 22LR & 22 Magnum guns because of nerve damage in my hands but I now shoot just as good as ever with these smaller round guns! I carry my P17 with confidence as my EDC!
Reliability of the .22 is largely a factor of what brand you buy, and what brand your gun likes. I have the S&W .22 Compact. I run CCI exclusively and have never had a problem. Remington bulk doens't work as well, in the semi, but worked well in my revolver. The .22 isn't the optimum round for defense, but it has certain qualities such as the ability to become very proficient with minimal training because of low recoil. Follow up shots are easy to put on target.
I'm happy you found your optimal firearm. A wise man once said, "The best gun is the one you can shoot best."
You know, I am an avid gun owner and carry daily. I have numberous rifles, shotguns, and pistols and revolvers in many calibers. To be honest, I love carrying my M&P 9 daily but recenty picked up a 22 mag 8 shot revelver. I is so light and comfortable I have been carrying that for a couple months. I don't feel underarmed either. If 8 shots of 22 mag (or lr) won't get it done provided there is only one or two targets which is to be expected, to hell with it. Good video.
Enjoyed your video and your take on the 22LR Ruger LCR. Looks like your LCR is equipped with an XS front sight. The wife and I both have these on our 22LR LCR revolvers. For us they are a big improvement over the OEM ramp front sights. For years there were an abundance of aftermarket front sights available for the 38/357 versions of LCR. Then a few years ago XS came out with front sights for the 22/327/9mm versions. For $39 you can't beat it.
Niiiice. I have the LCR in 38+p. I don't think it is safe to keep dry firing that 22lr model like that without snap caps though.
It’s ok 👍
I have a buddy who was a trauma surgeon and I asked him about handgun calibers. He said caliber doesn't matter on lethality as much as velocity of the projectile. I researched another trauma surgeon that was comparing calibers and while there were differences on 1 shot stops, at 2 shots everything levelled out and had much similar lethality. Whole lot easier to make a follow up show with a 22 than anything else.
The best gun to carry is the one that you can shoot with dead on accuracy. A well placed small bullet is better than one that didn't make it to target. Love the .22lr.
You're a terrible shot if you can't hit center mass with 9MM at close, SD range. Don't blame the better caliber, but yourself.
"I'd rather be missed by a .45 than hit by a .22." --Old Saying
I bought the LCR .22 a couple of years ago and have no regrets. It’s a great pistol. The trigger is its own safety. Good review.
I have various calibers, and my go-to is a S&W compact .22, I love that gun and I'm super accurate with that puppy, think what you will, a couple of well placed .22 will definitely ruin your day.
Agreed. Many people do not understand that a 22 long rifle round is lethal out to 300 yds. Been tested over and over.
My daily carry switches between a P365X and a S&W 442, but I'm becoming more and more intrigued by the LCR22, especially combined with Federal Punch. At the very least, if I can ever get my mom and/or sister to come around to firearm ownership and carrying, the LCR22 is the likely candidate for their first handgun.
Love mine for training and first shots for a newbie's I take to the range.
S&W43C 22lr is also a great choice. Easier to pocket carry.
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I just recently purchased the LCRx 22mag with the 1 7/8" barrel. Absolutely love the pistol. The double action is very usable and single action is sweet. I have all the confidence in the world in myself with that pistol. As a member of a shooting range I go more than two times a week, it's located rather close to where I live and practice, practice, practice one handed two handed, two to the body one to the head, most any scenario you can think of. The only stipulation at our range is no drawing from the holster. The round of choice for me is the Punch by Federal or the Speer Gold Dot. That Punch round shoots a fireball out the end of the barrel that would scare the shit out of most anyone, especially at close range. I hope and pray the occasion never comes where it will be tested, but if that happens, I will be ready.
Trust me you sound more ready than 99% of gun owners out there. Keep it up and stay safe. Have an amazing 2024!
Nice revolver. Absolutely seems like a better option for SO many people. And yeah, the objective isn’t necessarily to actually kill someone, just protect ideally.
In a gunfight, you shoot to stop the threat, not protect. You can shoot a thug who is going to bleed out and die in 2 minutes. But in those 2 minutes, if you don't shoot him again, he may very well shoot and kill you.
@@justsmy5677spoken like a true gun virgin. The important gun is the one you are proficient with and is reliable. A DA .22revolver is more reliable than any DEAGLE and is cheap to get and stay proficient. Otherwise every “best handgun” would be a DEAGLE in .50. Fucksakes, Skippy, get over yourself.
The only gun videos I typically watch are sautéed shooting salads with plenty of history: C&R Arsenal, Forgotten Weapons, Hickok 45, Paul Harrel. This was honest. No bullshit. Humble. Great video.
Those are all amazing channels! I am humbled and honored 🙏
I'm waiting for some 1911 guys to chime in and tell us all how magical the .45 ACP cartridge (which I also like) is, how is single handedly ended world war II, and is better than anything out there.
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First, you aren’t alone in short stroking the Ruger. The return spring is very weak on it. That’s one of the reasons that I got rid of mine, and the other is that the grip is a little bulky for pocket carry. I ended going with the S&W 43C. It was more expensive but worth it IMO.
That being said, I carry it everywhere for the same reasons you mentioned.
It’s def my no excuse gun
I discovered the wonderful
32 S&W long.
It is a pure joy to shoot and with a wad cutter it has amazing accuracy,
Now considered anemic but was once the round police relied on,
I encourage everyone to try it!
I genuinely wish there could be a .32 revival; both in revolvers and pocket semis
Unfortunately, I've had such a problem finding ammo, none the least revolvers (online, sure, but not in local shops) that I've always hesitated to take the leap, myself
It seems like the ideal compromise (even the .32 ACP in pocket pistols), yet we just keep getting more and more ultra-9mms brought to market...
@@ScreechingPossum yes it is a pain to find but that shouldn't stop you from buying one, I was able to find ammo at gun shows.
Also have you discovered Re-loading,
I have one Hornaday and two Dillon presses,
I make my own shotgun shells and can make about 40 different calibers of brass with the dies i've been collecting from gun shows,
I make my own #8 lead shot for reloading and was making a box of winchester trap shells for $2.49 per box! because i was melting old lead so all i had to buy was primers powder and wads.
I have a few 327 federal rugar wheel guns..and they shoot about 5 different 32s..I love them for versatility with not too much recoil..from 32 short thru 327 magnum there are like 5 different size loads very handy and the 327 mag has ballistics just under a 357..and you get 6 rounds over 5 in small wheel guns
From the standpoint of affordability this is Spot On. Great message.
Nice video. Most successful defensive gun incidents are psychological stops. Often just pulling out the gun will stop the threat. Hearing the sound of the gun shot or feeling the pain of being hit will also likely stop the threat (though I think a larger caliber gun is more likely to cause more pain). If someone is really amped up and determined, a central nervous system shot is the only thing that will immediately stop the threat, and that can be hard with any caliber. So I agree with most of what you said about .22lr and, specifically, the LCR.
Where I cringed a little is your scenario of someone holding you up and asking for what's in your pocket. If he's armed with a gun, he's likely pointing it directly at you, and no matter how fast you can draw your revolver, it is *extremely* unlikely you'll be able to draw from the drop without getting shot. My only other thought is about pocket carry. I almost never pocket carry any longer. If you go around with your hand in your pocket, then yes, it's a very fast draw. If not, it's too slow, and according to John Correia, gunfights are usually won by the guy who is the first to get a shot in the upper chest or head. With a good Kydex AIWB holster and a little practice you can develop a fast draw, and with an LCR, AIWB is as safe as pocket carry IMO.
But no carry option is foolproof, and every defensive situation is different. It seems to come down to playing the odds, evaluating risk-benefit, and personal preference.
Yes there are some cases where attackers took a full cylinder of 357 Mag into the chest but still shooting back. I also read about such a case with 45 ACP.
Thanks! This is what my great grandfather told me 57 yrs ago. 👍
I have an LCR in .22 LR and like it very much. Very lightweight. I have shot hundreds of rounds through it with all brands/types of ammo and it has been totally reliable. For anyone who wants a small handy .22 for defense or camping/fishing, I would highly recommend it.
Weight?
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what cartridges did you reject as less effective at stopping a threat? practicing with a .22 version of what you want to carry might be an option.
32 S&W Long has the same recoil as 22LR. It’s also a Reliable Center Fire Cartridge. 327 Fed Mag Revolvers are another excellent option!
327 hits harder than a 9mm with less recoil. Plus it’s a 6 shooter.
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@@wacobob56dad That is physically impossible to have more power but less recoil. And from what I have heard is that hot 327 has the recoil of mild 357.
Just caught your video. Good job. Was just wondering why Ruger didn’t make the 22 wmr in 8 rds. Kind of rhetorical. I would prefer the wmr in a 8 rd option.
That would be a fantastic model. Taurus has the 942 I believe in 8 shot. I hear their QC has gotten better but have no personal experience with them.
This is such a good idea for my wife as I can't get her comfortable with any of my auto loaders (I'm a 1911 guy) so I tried this and it was sadly too much trigger pull in DAO so I put wadcutters in my smith five shot chief special and have the problem solved although I wish it had more capacity.
Just me, but for almost the exact same size & weight you can carry a 5-shot .38 with +P loads. Ive concealed carried the stainless version with the beveled hammer for 28 years in California. Yes, its got more kick than your .22 but i dont ever plan to use it unless im within 3 yards of someone.
I was in a life or death gunfire situation and the thing that instantly became clear to me was that I wanted a more effective weapon as the other guys had guns. If you’re fighting armed attackers you’re going to feel very under equipped with most pistols but especially a .22lr
(I was carrying a S&W442 with 158gn buffalo bore ammo and it was extremely unpleasant)
Unpleasant for them or you?
Can you please do a video on the accessories: holster, sights, grip, which cartridges you use?
I can definitely work on that 👍
I had a LCR 22. It was a good gun. The cylinder locked one time while at the range. One of the range officers took it to the gun smith to open it. Since that incident I carry semi auto. I would not want to go through a cylinder lock issue in a self defense situation.
The problem with .22LR is that you need the threat to stop immediately.
Not to die in the hospital several hours after they've killed you.
@@pewpewTN If you are saying that a defender needs to kill an attacker immediately, that is not true, and it almost never happens. Only a break in contact is needed for self defense. As for an involuntary stop, a 22lr will incapacitate a threat with a heart or nervous system hit just like every other handgun round. And the "FIBS" factor applies in the same way.
Do you know what the cause was for the cylinder block? Did it happen again on the range or did you sold it?
Tony Kim, My main two choices are the LCR 22LR shot revolver and the new S&W Bodyguard 2.0!!! Have you checked it out yet? It is PHENOMINAL. Available with or without and external safety. I hope you pick one up and a do a review. Looking forward to it. Keep safe.
Those new Bodyguards look fantastic! I’d love to get one when money allows for it and I can afford a third caliber hahaha. All the reviews seem positive about it and seems like S&W took a lot of notes! Congrats
I had both the LCR in .357 and .22lr. I sold the .357 due to the cost of .38/.357 ammo. I have a number of 9mm but kept the .22 LCR. Lots of fun to shoot and the ammo is cheap. With descent ammo such as CCI it goes bang every time. If you can shoot a 14lb long trigger pull well, shooting pistols with 4-6lb pull are very easy. I wouldn't "unarmed" carrying the LCR .22lr, just practice a lot both dry fire and live fire. The reset on all the LCRs is very long and can easily be short stroked. Got to practice letting the trigger all the out for a good reset. The LCR has a great trigger pull but you pay for it with the reset. S&W has a better reset but not as good trigger pull.
Absolutely agree about the trigger. I’ve tried to practice with it multiple times a week to stay proficient and not short stroke it. It definitely makes my Glocks trigger feel feather light
What's really cool about a lot of 22 revolvers is they can come with an extra cylinder that will shoot 22 magnums. And that's also a pretty cost-effective way if you want to use a 22 but with a little more zip
I like Cci stingers too. It’s a 32gr projectile doing 1640fps and shot placement (of any caliber) is king. Enjoy your LCR. Great gun in any caliber 😎👍🏼
Out of a rifle.
@@Dcm193 sure. Still the best 22lr for him to carry imo.
Edit: I responded to call years ago and the stinger saved the life of a barber shop worker and his customer. Two stingers from a NAA .22lr ended the robbery that was escalating to a double homicide. Bad guy was DRT when we arrived. I’d definitely carry the stinger over standard 22 ammo IF carrying a 22lr. Whatever round carried shot placement is king. lol
Question, let’s say you do have a dud round. Will the revolver go to the next round? I know simi autos won’t. You’ll have to manually eject them before firing the next round.
Thanks for the video. I agree with much of what you have said. I am eagerly waiting for an LCR-22lr to test our new Zeta6 speedloaders in (yep, for 8-round 22lr). Ruger did a great thing by making this revolver.
I've an lcr in 38s. Shortly after I got it something broke and it locked up. I was in the habit, like you, of dry firing. Rugar fixed it but I seldom dry fire it and it's been perfect for many years
You might want to avoid dry firing a 22lr handgun. You can do damage to your firing pin. Overall great video.
I got some .22 LR snap caps for that.
The lcr is designed to be dry fire safe
So is the lcp-22, and I think the 10/22 is as well
Most modern Ruger .22 caliber firearms are supposedly able to tolerate dry-fire, but I still dislike it without at least using yellow drywall anchors (the same size and shape as .22LR cartridges.)
@Just1American1966 so far my LCR has something like a thousand dry snaps on it, so I just don't worry about it
Of course with it being a revolver I could just use once fired brass which might actually be a good idea
I’m not the type of person to disrespect someone and not trying to here, but did you say at 3:00 something to the affect that you’re not trying to kill someone you just want to put a few rounds and go about your business. Do you really think a 22 won’t kill somebody? Look up the story about Trooper Mark Hunter Coates as a matter of fact, I’ll give you a quick rundown the trooper shot the suspect 5 times with a 357 mag the bad guy not only survived but killed the Trooper after he shot him twice with a 22LR and not to mention the Trooper was wearing a vest. You should really educate yourself about firearms and ammunition before making a video.
I’ve seen them as low as $409, but most of the time they’re $489-$499. If I ever see one at $400, I’m gonna grab it. But honestly the TX22 Compact is a ton of fun and has been crazy reliable…and suppresses. But I’d only carry a revolver if I went to 22LR.I wish the trigger pull could get down to 9-10# versus 15+.
I like your choice. I tried to get the 3-inch model in .22 lr, but was outbid. I got the 3-inch Ruger LCR in .38 Special. I handload, so I can afford to shoot .38 spc. I also cast my own bullets.
My wife hates recoil. I bought her one of these. She loves it and is accurate with it. Recoil doesn't bother me but I shot her LCR 22 and really liked it. Bought one for myself. Unlike a semi auto if a 22 doesn't fire in this revolver, just pull the trigger again. Also bought each of us two speed loaders. Cheap to shoot and practice with.
If someone does not like recoil, a 22 WMR (22 Winchester Magnum Rimfire) “is better than” a 22 LR.
@@royjohnson465 22 mag and 22 lr are "similar" out of short barrels.
I use the Federal Punch for my carry ammo when I carry .22lr concealed. It’s been tested extensively and is reliable.
Same…great round.
For all the same reasons stated in the video, a SOLID second choice here would be a Ruger LCR/x in .327 Federal Magnum. If you can pop off 8 rounds of 15-pound trigger pull .22LR, you can pop off 6 rounds of 10-pound trigger pull .32 S&W Long, with barely more recoil, a lot more energy, bigger caliber, more reliable ignition. Just saying.
You make a great point
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In a defense situation you most likely aren't going to have time to use your sights. Practice something similar like they taught the SOG soldiers in Vietnam which is to shoot from the hip accurately and faster than fast. They had a training class called the kill drill and they would practice shooting plate size targets at first then smaller and smaller until the disks were quarter sized thrown into the air until they could hit them consistently when carrying the gun low and shooting from that position. By the time you line up your sights you will be needing cork to plug your leaks. Nice gun you have there, wish I had a 22 revolver.
I agree. I Pick my carry piece by how well it naturally aims and if I need to adjust my aim after raising it. That's why I carry my taurus gx4 instead of my other larger pistols that have a longer sight radius. You would think the longer sight radius has the quicker better natural point of aim but so far its my gx4 or my 5 shot ultralight 38
I carry a 22 revolver similar to that but I also have the semi-auto Beretta 22 that fits in your pocket for extra ammo. I know those aren't the most reliable so I pretty much have the best of both worlds of reliability and capacity
The Ruger LCR is a great little gun and I love mine. It’s an outstanding pocket carry any time of the year. You made a good solid choice!
This thing is giant for pocket carry. Everyone says to pocket carry it. Got rid of mine cuz it’s def not a pocket gun
Tony speaks his truth, and it's very close to my own.
Whatever I am comfortable with, and competent in shooting, that should be my primary carry.
22LR is very popular around my house.
I carry the Kel-Tec P17. Very accurate 22LR
Since you mentioned the reliability of .22lr in semi-automatics: I have a Beretta 71 in .22lr and the reliability of this little pistol is fantastic. The only hick-ups it had was when I fed it Russian "Vostok" ammo from 1972.
I had a friend who grew up in Mexico and had seen many people shot with a .22 LR. He said that the ones that were fortunate enough to have survived often wished they had not survived.
One thing for sure is that if you’re on the exit side of the barrel when it goes off it’s going to sound like large center fire cartridge.
Well presented, the best gun out there is the one you’ll carry.
Doesn't dry clicking a rim fire revolver cause the firing pin to deform and 'peen?' I saw you pull the trigger on empty chambers quite a few times there. If it doesn't hit the rim of a bullet, it hits the cylinder, right? Deforming the cylinder and firing pin.
People clown on .22 LR but I ain't trying to get shot by it, or any bullet really.
Nice take!
22 holes in a threat is better then 44 mag holes in the wall next to a threat!
I had similar feelings about my Mk II Standard. But this revolver is obviously much safer to carry than a single-action striker.
A few months ago, I saw a used S&W 43C laying in an obscure shelf corner at a local shop and thought for a while "Why would anyone want that?" Well, I've been having issues for years with airweight revolvers and the micro-9 fad that I decided to look into it. After videos like yours (hey, blame the algorithm), I threw a spare Altamont grip on it before the background check even cleared and I've been sold ever since. It's lighter than even my Glock 42 (another underrated gun), I appreciate being able to stage the trigger for longer range shots while my ears might appreciate should the day comes to use a few rounds of .22 over even one 9mm (my wallet sure does). Just want to say thanks for helping me bag a keeper. 👍
People want more capacity and more mm sometimes for all the wrong reasons. Sometimes our tools need to fit our lives and not the other way around. I never thought I’d help someone in that manner but I’m humbled and grateful for you sharing that. Thank you. Be safe 🙏
If the situation has escalated to the use of a firearm you're already using deadly force be it 22LR or 357 magnum, a 22LR can definitely kill in the right location or if untreated. You can't "take back" pulling a gun out and if the other party is determined you need to be mentally prepared to pull the trigger and every pull of the trigger could kill someone intended or otherwise. Rifles get enough velocity to create significant wound cavities, pistols can really only poke holes until whatever it is attacking you has lost blood pressure or you score a shot to the central nervous system. So the bigger the holes the better. Using a small, low velocity bullet is putting your life and potentially other people's lives in danger if you need it to stop an attacker. Anything is better than nothing, train and be proficient with what you have but, I think anything in 22LR is a false sense of security for defending against other people.
Of all the people in the comments section speaking in favor of the 22LR for self defense I wonder how many are hunters of medium sized game. Spending time performing an animal necropsy is immensely educational, seeing the actual terminal performance of a given bullet would do wonders to dispel this fantasy of "noone would want to be shot by a 22LR." Noone wants to be shot period but if you absolutely need to stop someone you need to stop them and a 22LR is not an appropriate choice to make someone stop. That or just watch a few police shooting videos, often times it takes many shots with a larger caliber to stop someone who is still fighting. If you look at people like Elmer Keith (the father of big bore revolver cartridges) he incidentally figured out that bigger, heavier bullets at pistol velocities were better for shots that weren't 100% perfect, something like a 22 can easily glance off bones where larger calibers will tend break them; it's pretty crazy to think anyone in a self-defense situation will have the presence of mind and motor control to make perfect shots. Many larger calibers give you a buffer, where you don't have to worry about hitting bones or weird changes in tissue densities; and if your life or someone else's life depends on it you better take whatever you can get. If you can't carry a rifle the balance is this: use the largest caliber you can reliably shoot accurately, if that's 22LR then it's better than nothing but if you can shoot something bigger you definitely should be.
The LCR is a great platform, good size, good manufacturer, good trigger. I actually own the 357 LCR but I really only carry 38 spcl+P rounds in it, shooting 357 is like having a flashbang go off in your face/hand.
Well said, the 327 Federal Magnum is the best compromise between a 22 (LR & WMR) and a 38 Spc.