Use high voltage (like 6 vdc) when charging the electrolyte. Use low voltage (like 1 or 2 vdc) when plating. The lower voltage will make the electroplating take longer but you will get better results (more even, more durable, nicer look).
Hi. Nice video. With brass it doesn't work, since brass is an alloy (copper + zinc) and so there isn't "pure brass". By using brass as anode material the cathode is coppered, being copper less electropositive than zinc. If you want a far better coating, use a weaker current, a larger container and turn the object to be coated every 30-60 s. With a lower current it will take much more time, but the coating will be much more compact and homogenous.
You dont need all this voltage. Each element has the specific eletronegativity. To see it you can looking for eletronegativity table. The brass didn t work very well because it is made by two elements: cooper and, i think, zinc. Maybe, if you changing for seconds, dropping the pece a little bit in a cup of cooper and after in a cup of zinc, it can work fine.
brass is a compound alloy .. which consists mainly of two elemental combinations alloy copper and zinc that why copper and brass result seem to be the same in this video
@@CRTCLDSSTR I found another technique for brassing, you don't need to heat anything! I immerse the piece of iron for a few minutes in hydrochloric acid which has now turned green from too much use, a thin layer of copper deposits on the iron, then I brush it with a high-speed rotating brass brush and it turns beautifully brassy! which looks golden
Interruptions of the current is also bad for adhesion. Should just leave it until its done. And you want 1 solid layer not multiplied by lifting it up and down = the new layer sticks worse.
@@josergevasquez3767 depending on what metal you're using, some metals peel off easily like you're describing, this can be avoided cleaning very well the piece before electroplating and doing the process slowly with lower voltage. The more time you take, the better the result, don't rush it
@@josergevasquez3767Part cleaning is absolutely essential for good adhesion. You need to remove all surface contaminations (grease, oil, dirt, fingerprints) by using a degreaser in an ultrasonic bath or electrolytically clean the part. Then yeed to ensure the surface is active by removing the thin oxide layers. There's lots of ways to do this. All different depending on what you're plating. You can get decent results without all these steps but this is how it's done professionally to make the process bulletproof.
Tip, you dont want bubbles .✌ Also you have to put nickle then copper not the other way around. Some metals allow other metals to bond so this could be a bit misleading.
Brass is an alloy of copper and zinc... the electrolysis will prefer one metal over the other... Extruded aluminium is usually also blended with various other metals. Seems the purer metals plate better.
Aluminium will never work in aqueous solution (water). The atoms of Al are so reactive that they immediately form AlOH (Aluminium Hydroxide) which is insoluble and will fall to the bottom of the container. Brass is indeed an alloy and you generally can't plate alloys. You can plate metals with some impurities though which sometimes is what you want. For example Zinc-Nickel uses 85% zinc and 15% nickel to get a better corrosion resistance than pure zinc alone. Another example is lead (Pb) +/-5% in tin plating to reduce the formation of tin whiskers.
Remove the nickle by changing the polarity of the electroplating cell or by other means , such as mechanically using abrasives or just plate back over the nickle with copper
I wonder, could this be possible with tungsten? It's resistance against scratch is superb. Could we use Tungsten carbide as source for tungsten (from a drill bit or something)?
Unlike other metals, Aluminium has a reduction potential of 1.662V which is higher than the 1.23V limit of Water. Thus, Aluminium cannot get electroplated easily with just an aqueous electrolyte. Either something has to be added to water (like Concentrated Sulfuric acid or ethylene glycol) or non-aqueous electrolyte like Ionic liquid or AlCl3 dissolved in Ethylene Carbonate has to be used.
When you do electroplating 3 volts works better. Brass is a metal that natcher did not entend to exist. Copper and zinc don't seem to like each other. That is why those metals are used to make batteries. I know you can't plate copper on to a zink plated bolt.
@@romadonganteng4989 well if you don't already have Nikasil solutions you can make your own first by reacting any nickel salt with bicarbonate to form carbonate then reacting that with sulfamic acid to form nickel sulfamate and then get some SiC fine dust as fine as you can sold as grit. Then boric acid as an additive and also sodium hypophosphite. Ratios for these are found online when googling im sure u can do the rest. Then when plating keep bath at 55C use water heater with temp control maybe a sous vide heater those are good.
Depends on what you want to plate - and what you want to plate it with. If for example you wanted to plate something with copper, then just try a little copper sulphate. In fact this can be so easy, it will even start BEFORE you connect the power. Aluminium is difficult to plate - partly because it forms an insulting layer very quickly in air (aluminium oxide) and although there are ways to strip this off, they can be caustic (nitric acid will do and so will caustic soda). Caustic soda is easier to get - but care must be taken as it will eat away at the aluminium for as long as it is immersed.
Steel is very hard to electroplate and there are better methods to get a piece covered with steel, but i would research more into it. I can't say much more
The iron turned brown because it got covered in copper, there are many interesting videos explaining this process. But i don't know why the current (not voltage) dropped, what i know is that it shouldn't matter
Same process he does would work, but there are better ways to electroplate a piece with expensive metals in a led wasteful way, research for "electroplating with galvanic pen"
😞 Awww Mannn 🥺 ..Originally - I just came here to enjoy a relatively educational and interesting video.. but then your background music activated my deep repressed Magic Mike Syndrome.. making me dance for 12mins straight - instead. 😭 ..uhmm.. that IS normal.. r.. right?? Like.. it happens to yall, too? On occasion?
Buy acetic acid glacial. mix it with distilled water. The ratio is 10ml acetic acid glacial to 90ml distilled water. you can do 10 to 20% acetic acid glacial
You use too much voltage and current . The ideally is between 2v and 3v max with this small cups . I use it for my keys to make them cover with good quality way . And copper is best for it
Ok so all that is happening is a chemical reaction between the vinigar and the metal. Causing the metal to erode and the electrons that were holding the metals all in place start to move and the copper is the path with the last resistance so they all flow through the paved road you set up
So with this theory you can build a very long lasting earth battery bcuz as you know if you leave iron in the ground it erodes and if you have copper to catch that reaction then you have electricity
Could you make steel or titanium alloy electrolyte solution using this method? Or is that asking too much for electroplating and thermal evaporation of those metals is required?
I donn't think you can. It all depends on "redox potential. " Steel is too active and titanium is too inert. There are limited materials that are neither too active nor too inert to make electroplating work. With the material you mentioned, I think you need to use ionic sputtering.
For voltage you can go around 3V like him, then if it goes slow, increase it, and if it starts to burn, decrease it. For amperage, you can't control it that easily, but there's no need, you can see how when he added salt the current increased, that's to speed up the process but it's not necessary, but if you want to just don't pass around 500mA. The amperage will also depend on the distance from cathode to anode, so you can play with that
How to clean brass which are fixed on clothes? I've a brass studded shirt for stage shows & I want to clean the studs without damaging my shirt! HELP!!!!
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Use high voltage (like 6 vdc) when charging the electrolyte. Use low voltage (like 1 or 2 vdc) when plating. The lower voltage will make the electroplating take longer but you will get better results (more even, more durable, nicer look).
*Use Magnesium Sulfate (Common Epsom Salt) to avoid the nasty Chlorine fumes from salt water.*
Nah to fix that add bicarbonate powder or baking powder
Hi. Nice video.
With brass it doesn't work, since brass is an alloy (copper + zinc) and so there isn't "pure brass". By using brass as anode material the cathode is coppered, being copper less electropositive than zinc.
If you want a far better coating, use a weaker current, a larger container and turn the object to be coated every 30-60 s. With a lower current it will take much more time, but the coating will be much more compact and homogenous.
You dont need all this voltage. Each element has the specific eletronegativity. To see it you can looking for eletronegativity table.
The brass didn t work very well because it is made by two elements: cooper and, i think, zinc. Maybe, if you changing for seconds, dropping the pece a little bit in a cup of cooper and after in a cup of zinc, it can work fine.
Without an external current source, the electrolysis process will go very slowly.
It's 6volts 4amps
@@klarityjoe7413 highest current I saw was 500mA
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Brass DID work, but you expected the wrong results. Brass isn’t an element. It’s an alloy. You just pulled the copper ions across from that alloy.
If someone wants to brass plate, the easier would be brushing the steel at 200° with a Brass Brush
@@CRTCLDSSTR 🤔what do you mean brushing steel at 200 degrees?? should I heat the base steel to 200°C and then brush with a brass brush???
@@langwolfendaniel yeah but you can do it hotter
brass is a compound alloy .. which consists mainly of two elemental combinations alloy copper and zinc that why copper and brass result seem to be the same in this video
@@CRTCLDSSTR I found another technique for brassing, you don't need to heat anything! I immerse the piece of iron for a few minutes in hydrochloric acid which has now turned green from too much use, a thin layer of copper deposits on the iron, then I brush it with a high-speed rotating brass brush and it turns beautifully brassy! which looks golden
Interruptions of the current is also bad for adhesion. Should just leave it until its done. And you want 1 solid layer not multiplied by lifting it up and down = the new layer sticks worse.
Mine was not working its not sticking to a metal why?
You can see it sticking while after you wipe its coming off
@@josergevasquez3767 depending on what metal you're using, some metals peel off easily like you're describing, this can be avoided cleaning very well the piece before electroplating and doing the process slowly with lower voltage. The more time you take, the better the result, don't rush it
how to do brass plating on copper
@@josergevasquez3767Part cleaning is absolutely essential for good adhesion.
You need to remove all surface contaminations (grease, oil, dirt, fingerprints) by using a degreaser in an ultrasonic bath or electrolytically clean the part.
Then yeed to ensure the surface is active by removing the thin oxide layers. There's lots of ways to do this. All different depending on what you're plating.
You can get decent results without all these steps but this is how it's done professionally to make the process bulletproof.
Tip, you dont want bubbles .✌ Also you have to put nickle then copper not the other way around. Some metals allow other metals to bond so this could be a bit misleading.
Well that is not actually true since each is done in a separate bowel.
And also clean the part really good
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Brass is an alloy of copper and zinc... the electrolysis will prefer one metal over the other...
Extruded aluminium is usually also blended with various other metals.
Seems the purer metals plate better.
Aluminium will never work in aqueous solution (water). The atoms of Al are so reactive that they immediately form AlOH (Aluminium Hydroxide) which is insoluble and will fall to the bottom of the container.
Brass is indeed an alloy and you generally can't plate alloys. You can plate metals with some impurities though which sometimes is what you want. For example Zinc-Nickel uses 85% zinc and 15% nickel to get a better corrosion resistance than pure zinc alone. Another example is lead (Pb) +/-5% in tin plating to reduce the formation of tin whiskers.
@@victorunbea8451 how to bond aluminum with polymer ?
Is salt NaCl which use for conductivity
Can we use 12volt and 2amps current out of a car battery charger?
Yep, i use 12 adapter for this, it outputs around 1 amp
Try a 12V 2amp or 24V 2amp adapter it works best........
@@asifalamgir4788 thanks
too many volts for a nice finish. you wsnt amps but not many volts
@@SodiumInteresting so lithium cell fully charged is a good option?
Prefer commentary to music.
The best result was copper and nickel. The weaker valence chain releases electrons more easily. Cool experience.
It’s a shitty experiment…there’s no conclusion, the idiot just play music didn’t say anything or put in words about the results…
Nice video… let’s say if you was to plate the copper as nickel do you by chance know how to reverse the effect back to the copper stage??
Remove the nickle by changing the polarity of the electroplating cell or by other means , such as mechanically using abrasives or just plate back over the nickle with copper
I wonder, could this be possible with tungsten? It's resistance against scratch is superb. Could we use Tungsten carbide as source for tungsten (from a drill bit or something)?
Tungsten carbide is neigh invulnerable to chemical attack, old lightbulbs would do a better source
If u try it, will u let us know? This is interresting question
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@@Biomechanoid29ah TIG welding electrode. Most of them contains additives, but there is a pure tungsten variant.
how to do brass plating on copper
Al planting not possible with water .
Possible
@@RamdomShorts36 not possible because it will react with water and make Hydroxide .
Where are you from
@@RamdomShorts36 india
Unlike other metals, Aluminium has a reduction potential of 1.662V which is higher than the 1.23V limit of Water. Thus, Aluminium cannot get electroplated easily with just an aqueous electrolyte. Either something has to be added to water (like Concentrated Sulfuric acid or ethylene glycol) or non-aqueous electrolyte like Ionic liquid or AlCl3 dissolved in Ethylene Carbonate has to be used.
Wow! It's very helpful for us🥰🥰🥰
thank you for this Video. I have learned a lot.
After plating process, is the bolt become rust proof ?
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@@mucahitakcay4124 tt5 you 66r
Try zinc, gold ,silver!
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But will the electrolysis wipe off?
Copper? Maybe. Nickel, most likely not.
When you do electroplating 3 volts works better. Brass is a metal that natcher did not entend to exist. Copper and zinc don't seem to like each other. That is why those metals are used to make batteries. I know you can't plate copper on to a zink plated bolt.
Then you know how - you can.
But you didn't. 🤣🤣
for brass you need to use NaCN and HCN as your plating solution.
Aluminum needs MeCN and AlCl3 no water.
Can u help me? I want to nikasil my engine blok for 2stroke engine . Can u give me a good step for me?
@@romadonganteng4989 well if you don't already have Nikasil solutions you can make your own first by reacting any nickel salt with bicarbonate to form carbonate then reacting that with sulfamic acid to form nickel sulfamate and then get some SiC fine dust as fine as you can sold as grit. Then boric acid as an additive and also sodium hypophosphite. Ratios for these are found online when googling im sure u can do the rest. Then when plating keep bath at 55C use water heater with temp control maybe a sous vide heater those are good.
good experiment, but what result of gold and silver at copper and nickel?
Which is good for electrolysis
Huh?
Sure if it's conductive
when you expose the copper on any acid, it turns pink, and then it removes the rust, it returns to red metal again
Bit much on the music don’t you think? You’re not David Copperfield getting ready to make the Grand Canyon disappear 😂
Try to do Gold plating plz man 🙏🙏
Watch codys lab. It has everthing you want and need to know about Gold.
Not. Possible
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Can I use water instead of winegar
hi bro! did you try reducing or increasing current and voltage ?
i mean every metal will have a different resonant frequency right?
Thanks for this fine presentation...
@Islamic status 2021 video Play sir
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Experiment with vinegar
Aluminium it's not working
Copper it's working
Brass it's not working
Nickel it's working
You forgot to add exciting dramatic music with the Acid
Al planting not possible with water
@@omsingharjit ,
Work it don't
Try 7% to 10% percent acid
You may take pure acetic acid
You provided electricity ??
How do you measure the mixture solution ,what's the formula?
The positive side must be use for plating or anode. It is awesome for your chemistry experiment
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Is there any other alternative for winegar?
Depends on what you want to plate - and what you want to plate it with. If for example you wanted to plate something with copper, then just try a little copper sulphate. In fact this can be so easy, it will even start BEFORE you connect the power.
Aluminium is difficult to plate - partly because it forms an insulting layer very quickly in air (aluminium oxide) and although there are ways to strip this off, they can be caustic (nitric acid will do and so will caustic soda). Caustic soda is easier to get - but care must be taken as it will eat away at the aluminium for as long as it is immersed.
I wonder if I could do this with gold?
You can, and it looks fantastic, but it's expensive so do some research before investing
Very nice presentation of how to do an experiment.
Note: add bicarbonate soda(baking powder) to salt solution to stop it from clumping up
at first, you set up only the voltage to 6 v not current namely the current is zero at the beginning am I right?
This is normal home use vineger ?
Some think as?
He doesn't know himself and he has nothing to answer)
Its not working when you clean it the part that change color it coming out its not sticking to a metal
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That's right. The coating turns out to be very unstable, since it is a primitive electrolyte.
Aluminium ion is more stable than Alminium metal.
So making Alminium plating is too difficult.
@Reeras Varghese no. Aluminium is too reactive and will always react to form insoluble compounds. You can plate in molten aluminium salts.
Winegar?
can explain more with text? what affect every step
How do you know is it working without washing it ...once wash all just comes out
Very well explained!
Also can you do aluminium on copper?
Well, there are some research papers on it...
some metals don't stick well directly on steel, you should first nickel plate it for good copper adhesion
you got thai vinegar?
What's the purpose of this test ?
Electroplating
Thanks... Very informative... Well done!
Do you think it is possible to plate steel onto steel?
Thanks again...
Steel is very hard to electroplate and there are better methods to get a piece covered with steel, but i would research more into it. I can't say much more
@@formatedobarro9907 Thank you... Very appreciated...!
how to do brass plating on copper
at @6:09 can you explain what happned and why the voltage dropped and why the iron turend brown ?
The iron turned brown because it got covered in copper, there are many interesting videos explaining this process. But i don't know why the current (not voltage) dropped, what i know is that it shouldn't matter
How to make silver and platinum coating?
Same process he does would work, but there are better ways to electroplate a piece with expensive metals in a led wasteful way, research for "electroplating with galvanic pen"
😞 Awww Mannn 🥺
..Originally - I just came here to enjoy a relatively educational and interesting video.. but then your background music activated my deep repressed Magic Mike Syndrome.. making me dance for 12mins straight - instead. 😭
..uhmm.. that IS normal.. r.. right?? Like.. it happens to yall, too? On occasion?
Name of machine please?
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Very good i want mor for chemistry plis
Is this same on gold or silver
can i use it for jewellery plating
Yaa afcourse,,do silver with copper and see the result - silver automatically changed with gold
I guess I'll have to give up on this, I've looked absolutely EVERYWHERE but I could not find winegar anywhere.
Buy acetic acid glacial. mix it with distilled water. The ratio is 10ml acetic acid glacial to 90ml distilled water. you can do 10 to 20% acetic acid glacial
Try Food Store not the Vodka Joint.
You use too much voltage and current .
The ideally is between 2v and 3v max with this small cups .
I use it for my keys to make them cover with good quality way .
And copper is best for it
Very nice 👍👍👍👍👍
How much voltage??????????
at @4:49 was the copper in left size corrodes or burned ?
Not burned but corroded, it's normal and unavoidable, but he should have filtered the liquid
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Pls change your table colour and fill some ligjt in your room
Thank you very much
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Ok so all that is happening is a chemical reaction between the vinigar and the metal. Causing the metal to erode and the electrons that were holding the metals all in place start to move and the copper is the path with the last resistance so they all flow through the paved road you set up
So with this theory you can build a very long lasting earth battery bcuz as you know if you leave iron in the ground it erodes and if you have copper to catch that reaction then you have electricity
More erosion equals more electric
God... sounds so wrong
What in the absolute fuck are you on about
Brother what you did in this experiment can you please elaborate
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vinegar it sour,add salt..equal?
They just help current to flow.
No, with 1000ml of vinegar you need one table spoon of salt.
Could you make steel or titanium alloy electrolyte solution using this method? Or is that asking too much for electroplating and thermal evaporation of those metals is required?
I donn't think you can. It all depends on "redox potential. " Steel is too active and titanium is too inert. There are limited materials that are neither too active nor too inert to make electroplating work. With the material you mentioned, I think you need to use ionic sputtering.
Also show how to do reverse plating of the same ?
Reverse polarity
Can you show with metal to nickel
I can't find winegar!
What is the correct voltage and amperage? Can someone tell me.
For voltage you can go around 3V like him, then if it goes slow, increase it, and if it starts to burn, decrease it. For amperage, you can't control it that easily, but there's no need, you can see how when he added salt the current increased, that's to speed up the process but it's not necessary, but if you want to just don't pass around 500mA. The amperage will also depend on the distance from cathode to anode, so you can play with that
How to do with home items
Excellent 👍
Give more videos like this
Can you electroplate iron on copper?
I think it isn't possible with this metod. You must use more chemically complicated reactions.
It should definitely a simple process.
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the copper experiment adds to science and is very useful,good video👍
We can be friends
Which kind of copper is the best quality of copper? Red or golden?
Copper seems red & brass is almost golden in colour.
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Why don't you clean them up and see how is the result look like?
anyone know of any art and craft schools in US that offer electroplating?
How many volts ?
6 volt 👍👍
How do cromy iron pipe
How to clean brass which are fixed on clothes? I've a brass studded shirt for stage shows & I want to clean the studs without damaging my shirt! HELP!!!!
Where are you from ??
koi pata nahi chala kya
Nice work
I like to know was gas is releasing in the process.
@Islamic status 2021 Why?
But no sining why sir ?please
3:23 And here kids we produce poisonous chlorine gas so you don't have to!
Less current and longer time for a better result!!!!