This has got to be the most professional home electrolysis project out there. So much care to get everything neat and tidy. This is one of those set ups that you don't dismantle, just put aside until the next project comes along. Brilliant.
@@RustisGold After being impressed with your set up, from the many others I have viewed, I decided to take the plunge and purchase a 96 litre tub and some metal. If you don't mind I would like to use the same type of set up as you to de-rust a small BBQ, film it, and upload it onto this brand new channel. I would credit you with the set up idea by linking in your video. Cheers
If anyone watches this and thinks they don't have time for that......You don't have to do 95% of this. Just put your sacrificial steel in the water, put your piece you need cleaned in the water, add washing soda, hook up a battery charger, done
You sir must be an engineer. I have watched just about every video there is and I have built a couple of tanks but you make me feel lacking. This is hands-down the best video ever made on electrolysis cleaning. Thank you very much for this.
Thank you very much for your comments! It's true I am a perfectionist... However, sometimes this is not good. It makes life more difficult and complicated!! 😄👍👍
I just used simple wire connectors... They are sold everywhere... www.elecbee.com/en-7896-terminal-connector-strips-white-800mm-picth-soder-type-cable-connecor?E5%B8%8C%E8%85%8A&hsa_acc=9958698819&hsa_cam=13812596381&hsa_grp=125293024740&hsa_ad=532242506288&hsa_src=g&hsa_tgt=pla-298884436745&hsa_kw=&hsa_mt=&hsa_net=adwords&hsa_ver=3&gclid=CjwKCAjwh8mlBhB_EiwAsztdBFcokVn6R5s8TouuiknK04Sk19eKb-zJCOy0ep5SDeRCFyNGWzFEJhoCNocQAvD_BwE
Odd question...could you use this process to remove rust from the cargo area of a K5 blazer if you built the "tank" with the floor of the tank being the cargo area of the K5? Hook up the negative to that and have the anode hanging in the solution not touching. Would that work?
You did not mention the fact that the parts will quickly flash rust if not cleaned and coated after the electrolysis process is used. Some folks use just a mixture of water mixed with Dawn dishwashing soap to clean and prevent the flash rusting after the parts are removed from the electrolysis bath, but if you do not coat them to prevent flash rusting afterwards, it will indeed happen. Been using this process for years on my vintage car parts. You can safely dispose of the old electrolysis bath water by pouring it onto a flower bed, but supposedly not into a vegetable garden where it can leach into the edible plants there. I have used all sorts of amperage variations with no real notable difference in making the process work better or hampering it in any manner. I like the connectors you used, as I just got a set of them a month back and haven't used any, yet. Nice video. If you have even larger materials to de-rust by this product, I have had success with fenders and such large items by utilizing a cheap plastic kiddy pool. Same set up as your smaller unit but beware of any sharp edges that may puncture the plastic pool and spill out the contents everywhere. I had that happen with a 1942 Chevy business coupe fender when the sharp edge on it accidentally got pushed and it broke out the plastic pool side and we had a real mess to clean up afterwards. I have a 1925 Ford Runabout roadster which I will be using this process on soon. Keep it all away from pets or animals for safety's sake and keep it out in the open to prevent fumes being any issue. Much cheaper than the use of Evapo-Rust or other products and does a better job most often, too. Thanks for sharing the video.
@@RustisGold Not meaning to be critical in any manner and I hope you didn't think so. Where did you pick up those connectors you used to screw down the wiring into? I have not found them at the box stores and probably using the wrong wording to track them down on Ebay. What gauge wire do they hold when clamped into place? Nice lay out of your tub. Because of some variations as to the size of auto metal pieces I am going to be using, I purchased both a large and a smaller concrete mixing tub to convert for this process. They are pretty cheap at the box stores, and they do not crack as easily as the plastic bins most often used. The depth is not as tall as the plastic bins, but for a lot of projects they wil work just fine.
These connectors are sold in all electric stores in Greece. From various comments I was surprised to find out that in some countries this type of connectors is not common at all... Really strange... I thought they were sold all around the world....
@@RustisGold Tried,, but the closest I could come to what you showed in video is what they called a Phoenix connector. I'll try a local electrical shop and see if they know what they are here in Texas. Thanks for the information. I appreciate it. What gauge wire do these connectors accept?
Hi, can I use threaded rods as anodes which are already coated with electro-galvanising, or all anodes have to be raw steel without any coating? Thank you.
Really enjoyed watching this video. Today, I came across several cast iron skillets and a dutch oven that were left on a basement floor for years. Very heavily rusted and looking to learn how to do this process. Most likely, will I have to repeat the e-tank or should it work with a single application? Any other advice is greatly appreciated.
Thank you very much for your comments! I am glad you liked my creation! If you leave the metal parts long enough in the electrolysis tank it will be fine. You will not have to repeat the process.
I clean old skillets by immersing in caustic soda [lye] solution[without the handle] and simmer for half an hour. This shifts all the greasy/oily crud. Then brush off ant loose rust and do your electrolysis Don't try Lye with aluminum or there will be a lot of fizzing and the pan will dissolve
@@RustisGold don't forget, there must also be a clean connection between the rusty part and the solution it is in. Any oily or greasy parts need to be thoroughly de-greased first or you will get patchy results
This charger didn't work very well... I had to replace it... You can see the new charger I used on another video of mine... ua-cam.com/video/dDC8Hjo4RXY/v-deo.html
Can you just use a 12v font like used to power cameras and stuff? And this water mix how many times you can use it or just once and the effect stops? Because i have a big restauration in mind. This would be very nice to use for all rusty parts
I've been doing this for many years. Very similar set up. Always work's a treat. Very good for difficult shaped items. I use an old laptop charger as the power supply & a 120 minute timer. This is usually long enough. Just walk away & forget.😊
Thank you very much for your comments. This was a tutorial video in order to show how electrolysis works. You can use a much smaller tank for small items, for example a bucket. 😊👍
Just did my first one! Thank you so much. I’m so excited to see the finished project. What would you recommend for an antique toaster after it’s done with the electrolysis? I’m thinking about nickel plating it.
I would imagine can re-use quite a bit, more likely the anode rebar is likely to build up a covering that may prevent chemical re-actions, much like an old lead-acid battery. The other question would be where the H2 and O2 is coming from eventually that has to be replaced. I think mainly the water. Would also think distilled water (or rain water) would be better, city water has chlorine, maybe not enough to be harmful. Something to think about. Also places that use ground water can contain lots of other minerals that might be be harmful to the metal, may be not in high enough quantities though. I know the well water here contains high amounts of calcium.
just a quicky - learned from personal experience - when doing this with heavy parts over say 2 kg be very careful that the wires / clips supporting the parts do not snap or unwind or you do not acidentally drop the part when lifting in / out of the tank because if they drop and crack/ hole the tank you've got a LOT of filthy electrolysis solution flooding out... AND it will stain IF it's the fluid at the end of the process!! I used a thicker grade of plastic tub and it still punched a hole through when I dropped a car brake caliper from just above the fluid level... I may have uttered some colourful language as i tried to shift the tank out of the garage
Google it. At least there’s a lot of videos on electroplating. I have seen them but more for zinc, cooper, brass and others like that. Just look around.
interesting idea. but i dont think it will melt the plastic i just think it wont work because you have to suspend the object in the water in a way that it has contact with the negative pole of your battery
Excellent presentation & information!! How can you make a smaller unit? Just make it all littler? And if you make one so large for such small tools, then can the bath be reused? Thank you sir!
Thank you very much for your comments!! I am glad you liked my video! Yes, of course you can make it smaller. You will need less iron bars. Regarding the liquid I didn't reuse it because there was no need to do so. Honestly I don't know if you can reuse it.... 😊👍
@@RustisGold I've read elsewhere that the solution can be reused; for how long, don't know. Can''t the solution be tested for its strength by a litmus test.
Σε ευχαριστώ πολύ! Όχι δεν είναι η μαγειρική. Είναι η σόδα που χρησιμοποιείται για τα πλυντήρια (ανθρακικό νάτριο - Sodium Carbonate Na2CO3). Κάθε φορά που θέλεις να κάνεις ηλεκτρόλυση βάζεις περίπου μία κουταλιά ανά 4 λίτρα νερού. Όταν τελειώσει η διαδικασία πετάς το νερό το οποίο έτσι και αλλιώς είναι βρώμικο και γεμάτο σκουριά.
Ειναι κατι που χρειαζεται να το εχουμε στο εργαστηριο μας Μιχαλη,το εχω κανει και εγω και μου εχει λυσει τα χερια,ειδικα στα μεγαλα κομματια μεταλου η σε πολλα κομματια μαζι, βολευει πολυ,αντε παμε για το επομενο,μερες τωρα σκεφτομαι μια καμπινα αμμοβολης !!!! Ευγε Μιχαλη.
Το είδα ότι έχεις φτιάξει και εσύ όταν έψαχνα να βρω ιδέες για την κατασκευή του! 😊👍 Αγόρασα και καλύτερο μετασχηματιστή από αυτόν που φαίνεται στο βίντεο (πιο πολλά αμπέρ) και δουλεύει πολύ καλά. Θάλαμος αμμοβολής! Τρομερή ιδέα! Το σκέφτομαι χρόνια τώρα αλλά δεν έχω τολμήσει!
@@RustisGold μελετη θελει λιγο και εγινε,αν παρατηρησεις ακομα τις βελτιωσεις που κανουν στα ετοιμα κιτ που πουλανε στο εμποριο θα καταλαβεις.Και τσουπ εχουμε και την καμπινα αμμοβολης...........!!!
nice video What's the dimension of the wire? This is a tank from IKEA, you don have to calculate the volume, it is stamped on the underside Greetings from Austria
It will work just be careful the sea water will produce Chlorine gas at the anode. The soda they use is just to lower the resistance of the water for better conductance.
I made one of these but I actually used an acid for the liquid. I need to make another and I like the sodium carbonate better.. I like what you have done. I have 3 questions. What are the white wire connectors called, how long is this solution good for and do you need to keep adding sodium carbonate to the mix every time you use ? Thanks..
Hi your video is very awesome. I'm using the same charger you have, an ultimate speed but I think the model is newer (2021 if i don't mistake). Yours is a smart charger right? Because mine has a problem that when I start it sometimes it gives me an error and does not start while other times the current is not constant and pulses and restarts continuously. The only way to get this to work is that I'm using a vice on the button so it keeps restarting and not stopping but so it lasts an eternity. Would you have any solution? Thanks for your attention and have a nice day.
Thank you very much for your comments! I was experiencing the same problem with the "error" indication... I got tired of it and bought a new charger. To be more precise it is a current transformer. It works great, much better than the previous one. You can see the current transformer at the following video: ua-cam.com/video/dDC8Hjo4RXY/v-deo.html
That much water in that container weighs over 200 lbs. Hope that container handle the weight; my cheap containers of the same size are quite fragile when loaded. If you have carbon anodes available, you'll get less sludge and stuff in the solution. See the videos by ShopdogSam on this subject. Great technique in wiring it up and sharing the amount of Sodium carbonate to use per gallon. Sodium carbonate(Washing Soda in the grocery stores) is much better for this process than Sodium BiCarbonate (Baking Soda).
If too heavy for you then you could add a plastic valve at the bottom. Do this outside or attach an old hose to drain water out. No heavy lifting or dumping required
I would say no, based in the way electrolysis works, but then I could be wrong. The sacrificial anode “attracts” the rust. Galvanised steel is supposed to be non rusting.
Hi I have just finished my first test and it went wrong. The different parts presented different resultas, some are spotless and others seem to be much more rusty than before and even seem to have had the metal dented. I didn't hang the pieces but left them in the bottom, I had just 4. I used a 12V/12Amp battery. Should I do it again, or can I fix it? Any idea would be very welcome .. Thanks
do it again and again with different variables until you get it right. by variables i mean the object youre using as the annode, the wiring, the method youre using to hold the wiring to the metal object, etc.
@@thenicotennis I used decent gauge copper grounding wire you can find at lowes or home depot. Obviously make sure they don't touch anything else but your rebar and your metal you want to get rust off of. Worked great. Just make sure you dont have your battery charger on Auto - It has to be manual! And one tablespoon of soda ash per every gallon. no more
@@lorenzo816 not the rebar- the negative charged item? Is that still copper? I heard copper / galvanized / and stainless is bad if it touches the water- doesn’t it create poisonous gas? All I’ve found at big box store is galvanized and stainless… for wire-
It is not crucial to use that type of wire connector. If you are in the US I would use wire nuts, the plastic connectors used to join 120/240-volt wiring. They come in various color-coded sizes depending on wire thickness. For the wire I would buy a length of what is commonly called 14/2 Romex. It has one bare (ground) wire that will save you the work of removing insulation as shown in the video. The other wires are insulated and black and white and can be used where the video shows blue wire. Keep the copper out of the water solution, however.
@@RustisGold Hey mate, my message didn't come out quite right. I ment to say "metal coat hanger wire". That is what I'm using to make mine. Thanks again for the great ideas re wiring design. 👍
You can also heat the tool just hot enough to melt a crayon or candle on it (crayons are paraffin wax) and make sure the tool is evenly coated with the wax... let it sit for a few seconds and wipe off before the wax dries. Seems to prevent rust longer than any sort of painting in my experience.
I'm going to use the cage from an old shopping cart for my Androids hopefully the cage will provide a greater area for the rust to adhere to and the part will be able to have a greater area to disperse the rust from leaving the part more evenly cleaned and saving me the trouble of turning the part in different directions giving me a more uniform part upon completion.
Most probably I forgot to wear them while filming the particular scene. I am trying to be careful with such things but sometimes when you have to work and at the same time film things like that happen... Anyway the chop saw has a protective surface so it is quite safe even if you don't wear safety glasses. Take care 😊👍
Tried two different battery chargers, nothing. They kept saying the battery cables were connected with the wrong polarity. Then I tried a 12v bench power supply which worked for a few minutes and then would shut down, seemed like it overheated. Forth attempt, the power supply popped and is now dead. I have double and triple checked that the tank was built correctly and nothing but water was touching the anodes. No shorts. Positive connected to the anodes and negative connected to the rusty metal parts.
I think I have the answer to your question! 😊 I quote from Wikipedia... "... Rube Goldberg was the inspiration for international competitions known as Rube Goldberg Machine Contests, which challenged participants to create a complicated machine to perform a simple task!! 😄😄👍 My electrolysis project maybe was too complicated to remove the rust from just a simple tool but trust me... It really helped me remove the rust from other really rusty old objects. 😊 For example: ua-cam.com/video/dDC8Hjo4RXY/v-deo.htmlsi=WdpUmc0fhr9tMKf0
Πολύ καλό και κατατοπιστικό μαγνητοσκόπημα. Εύγε!! Πάρ' αυτά αισθάνομαι την ανάγκη να παραθέσω μία απορία, την εξής: Εάν χρησιμοποιούσαμε ως αγωγό, αντί για Ανθρακικό Νάτριο, Υδροξείδιο του Καλίου, κοινώς Καυστική Ποτάσα, δεν θα είχαμε πιο δραστικό όπως και ταχύτερο αποτέλεσμα;;;Ευχαριστώ ευχόμενος τα καλύτερα.
Σε ευχαριστώ πολύ για τα καλά σου λόγια! Ειλικρινά με πιάνεις... αδιάβαστο! Φαντάζομαι ότι η καυστική ποτάσα και από μόνη της χωρίς την ηλεκτρόλυση θα λειτουργούσε ως καθαριστικό. Δεν γνωρίζω εάν θα προκαλούσε μεγαλύτερη διάβρωση στο αντικείμενο...
Hello, excellent video, I am very impressed. As I would like to make a similar one, can you please tell me why 6 anode rods instead of 1, does this make it more effective? Would really appreciate a reply.
Thank you very much for your comments! Glad you liked it! Since I used a large thank I thought it would be more effective to place some additional rods. I guess it will work fine even if you put only one rod. 😊👍
Provided you have use washing soda [sodium carbonate] It is pretty innocuous stuff you can tip it on a patch of weeds .... it won't kill the weeds,.... for that you need weed killer ;
Should have used red wire around the outside if it's connected to the + positive.. Nice video, can't believe there are so many comments about the type of connector block you use...??
This was more of an instructional video on how to build an electrolysis tank. If you want to focus on the condition of the particular tool, which by the way was from the 1970s, it's fine with me...
You could just use 1 wire to connect them all together instead of cut join etc .. just strip wire twist put into Lego connector then screw .. 😉😉 .. time saving
Awesome video!!! But i have to say that at the 9:06 mark it states that is may remove the paint and i say that if they were painted then there would be no need for this video!!! Just my 2 cents though
Thank you very much for your comments! I just mentioned that it may remove the paint just in case someone would want to use electrolysis to remove the rust from a painted object without at the same time wanting to harm the paint.
Use Na2CO3 - common Washing Soda aka Sodium Carbonate What ever do, don't use Caustic Soda aka Lye aka Sodium Hydroxide aka NaOH - the clue to the problem is in the first name.
bicarbonate is more common for the population, because it is used in cooking. carbonate is more for industrial and cleaning use and more difficult to find, only sometimes in drugstores or DIY but rare
@@mdelabo it will vary from place to place, but my local supermarket stocks it. Common salt is probably cheapest and would work just as well, but folks do need to be aware that very harmful chlorine gas is released so perhaps better to use it outside only
This has got to be the most professional home electrolysis project out there. So much care to get everything neat and tidy. This is one of those set ups that you don't dismantle, just put aside until the next project comes along. Brilliant.
Thank you very much for such nice comments!! 😊👍👍
@@RustisGold After being impressed with your set up, from the many others I have viewed, I decided to take the plunge and purchase a 96 litre tub and some metal. If you don't mind I would like to use the same type of set up as you to de-rust a small BBQ, film it, and upload it onto this brand new channel. I would credit you with the set up idea by linking in your video. Cheers
@@mufuliramark thank you very much for your comments!! I am really honoured! 😊👍👍
@@mufuliramark subscribed! 😊👍
If anyone watches this and thinks they don't have time for that......You don't have to do 95% of this. Just put your sacrificial steel in the water, put your piece you need cleaned in the water, add washing soda, hook up a battery charger, done
Yeah this might be safer if you have little kids running around but otherwise it seems like overkill for dealing with 12v imo
Connect the positive to the piece that needs to be cleaned and negative to the sacrificial steel?
Or just go get a jug of EvapoRust. But the physics and chemistry here is terribly interesting.
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Thank U
You sir must be an engineer. I have watched just about every video there is and I have built a couple of tanks but you make me feel lacking. This is hands-down the best video ever made on electrolysis cleaning. Thank you very much for this.
Thank you very much for your comments!! 😊👍
Actually I am a gardener! Making or restoring things is my hobby!
Very, very good camera work which made the “instructions” exceptionally clear. Thank you!
Thank you very much for your comments! I am glad you liked my video! 😊👍
You put some effort into making that tank, it's people like you who would do a proper job at everything you do (like DIY repairs). Great video thanks.
Thank you very much for your comments! It's true I am a perfectionist... However, sometimes this is not good. It makes life more difficult and complicated!! 😄👍👍
I'm just building mine and this video is extremely detailed and helpful... I'm curious, what connectors are you using for the copper wire?
I just used simple wire connectors... They are sold everywhere...
www.elecbee.com/en-7896-terminal-connector-strips-white-800mm-picth-soder-type-cable-connecor?E5%B8%8C%E8%85%8A&hsa_acc=9958698819&hsa_cam=13812596381&hsa_grp=125293024740&hsa_ad=532242506288&hsa_src=g&hsa_tgt=pla-298884436745&hsa_kw=&hsa_mt=&hsa_net=adwords&hsa_ver=3&gclid=CjwKCAjwh8mlBhB_EiwAsztdBFcokVn6R5s8TouuiknK04Sk19eKb-zJCOy0ep5SDeRCFyNGWzFEJhoCNocQAvD_BwE
Odd question...could you use this process to remove rust from the cargo area of a K5 blazer if you built the "tank" with the floor of the tank being the cargo area of the K5? Hook up the negative to that and have the anode hanging in the solution not touching. Would that work?
Truly an odd question! Theoretically speaking it could work. 😊👍
@@RustisGold Just an FYI...i tried it...and it worked!
Wow! Cool!! 😊👍👍
Excellent and I liked the sound of the proper clock
Thank you very much for your comments!! 😊🙏
the video is great mister, it's very useful to be able to increase knowledge!
Thank you very much my friend!! Glad you liked it! 😊👍👍
You did not mention the fact that the parts will quickly flash rust if not cleaned and coated after the electrolysis process is used. Some folks use just a mixture of water mixed with Dawn dishwashing soap to clean and prevent the flash rusting after the parts are removed from the electrolysis bath, but if you do not coat them to prevent flash rusting afterwards, it will indeed happen. Been using this process for years on my vintage car parts. You can safely dispose of the old electrolysis bath water by pouring it onto a flower bed, but supposedly not into a vegetable garden where it can leach into the edible plants there. I have used all sorts of amperage variations with no real notable difference in making the process work better or hampering it in any manner. I like the connectors you used, as I just got a set of them a month back and haven't used any, yet. Nice video. If you have even larger materials to de-rust by this product, I have had success with fenders and such large items by utilizing a cheap plastic kiddy pool. Same set up as your smaller unit but beware of any sharp edges that may puncture the plastic pool and spill out the contents everywhere. I had that happen with a 1942 Chevy business coupe fender when the sharp edge on it accidentally got pushed and it broke out the plastic pool side and we had a real mess to clean up afterwards. I have a 1925 Ford Runabout roadster which I will be using this process on soon. Keep it all away from pets or animals for safety's sake and keep it out in the open to prevent fumes being any issue. Much cheaper than the use of Evapo-Rust or other products and does a better job most often, too. Thanks for sharing the video.
Thank you very much for such a detailed message. I appreciate! 😊👍
@@RustisGold Not meaning to be critical in any manner and I hope you didn't think so. Where did you pick up those connectors you used to screw down the wiring into? I have not found them at the box stores and probably using the wrong wording to track them down on Ebay. What gauge wire do they hold when clamped into place? Nice lay out of your tub. Because of some variations as to the size of auto metal pieces I am going to be using, I purchased both a large and a smaller concrete mixing tub to convert for this process. They are pretty cheap at the box stores, and they do not crack as easily as the plastic bins most often used. The depth is not as tall as the plastic bins, but for a lot of projects they wil work just fine.
These connectors are sold in all electric stores in Greece. From various comments I was surprised to find out that in some countries this type of connectors is not common at all... Really strange... I thought they were sold all around the world....
Try searching
"Terminal Connector Strips White "
@@RustisGold Tried,, but the closest I could come to what you showed in video is what they called a Phoenix connector. I'll try a local electrical shop and see if they know what they are here in Texas. Thanks for the information. I appreciate it. What gauge wire do these connectors accept?
Hi, can I use threaded rods as anodes which are already coated with electro-galvanising, or all anodes have to be raw steel without any coating? Thank you.
Hi, to be honest I am not sure but I think it has to be raw steel... 😊👍
Use carbon graphite lasts longer than steel
Question: Does electrolysis leave the metal etched and ready for painting?
It needs a really light brushing with a metal brush and you are ready to paint.
Do you have a link to the connectors that you used and just what they are called? Thanks.
Try searching
"Terminal Connector Strips White "
EXCELLENT QUALITY VIDEO. BEST I'VE EVER SEEN, AND I HAVE LOOKED AT MANY. THANK YOU.
Thank you very much for your comments! I am glad you liked it! 😊👍
Really enjoyed watching this video. Today, I came across several cast iron skillets and a dutch oven that were left on a basement floor for years. Very heavily rusted and looking to learn how to do this process. Most likely, will I have to repeat the e-tank or should it work with a single application? Any other advice is greatly appreciated.
Thank you very much for your comments! I am glad you liked my creation!
If you leave the metal parts long enough in the electrolysis tank it will be fine. You will not have to repeat the process.
I clean old skillets by immersing in caustic soda [lye] solution[without the handle] and simmer for half an hour. This shifts all the greasy/oily crud. Then brush off ant loose rust and do your electrolysis
Don't try Lye with aluminum or there will be a lot of fizzing and the pan will dissolve
@@RustisGold
don't forget, there must also be a clean connection between the rusty part and the solution it is in. Any oily or greasy parts need to be thoroughly de-greased first or you will get patchy results
What's the brand of charger that you used? (What amperage range, ect.)
This charger didn't work very well... I had to replace it...
You can see the new charger I used on another video of mine...
ua-cam.com/video/dDC8Hjo4RXY/v-deo.html
Rinse with distilled water and that will prevent flash rusting before you have a chance to coat it
Thanks for the tip! 😊👍
Can you just use a 12v font like used to power cameras and stuff? And this water mix how many times you can use it or just once and the effect stops?
Because i have a big restauration in mind. This would be very nice to use for all rusty parts
I am not sure if a charger like this can be used...
I'm sure any charger or mains adapter will work amount of voltage/watts will vary to the amount of time it takes to achieve the desired affect
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I've been doing this for many years. Very similar set up. Always work's a treat. Very good for difficult shaped items. I use an old laptop charger as the power supply & a 120 minute timer. This is usually long enough. Just walk away & forget.😊
Great video. Tools live a tough life and even they diserve some spa-time.
Thank you very much for your comments! 😊👍
Can we add 5 rusted tools on negative lead or it need to be done one by one ?!
As far as all the tools are connected together it will work. However you will need a large tank...
@@RustisGold Well i will try it. Thx
On this project of mine this is exactly what I did. I connected all the pieces together and it worked.
ua-cam.com/video/dDC8Hjo4RXY/v-deo.html
@@RustisGold A larger tank? You used a 25 gallon tank , where you could have used a 2 gallon bucket instead for this tool.
@@terrythomas790 my mistake, I wanted to say you need a large tank... Didn't mean to say that he needed a larger tank than the one I used.
is all that solution used now or can it be used again. seems like a large footprint for one tool. nice job
Thank you very much for your comments. This was a tutorial video in order to show how electrolysis works. You can use a much smaller tank for small items, for example a bucket. 😊👍
You can use it over and over the solution doesn’t go bad just add more water because it makes the water evaporate a little faster than normal
Just did my first one! Thank you so much. I’m so excited to see the finished project. What would you recommend for an antique toaster after it’s done with the electrolysis? I’m thinking about nickel plating it.
Very nice! 😊👍 How are you going to nickel plate it?
@@RustisGold electroplating. Thoughts?
It sounds like a very good idea! 😊👍
Is that copper or just regular wire? Can I use any wire ro wire the rebar?
It is copper...
I think you can use any wire
@@RustisGold
yes you can use iron wire but it will collect rust around and above the waterline so I just use it once then it goes in the scrap bin
Use steel wire for the parts that are submerged, not copper. Using copper to connect the anodes is okay.
Great job , I was wondering if I had 8 rebar instead of 6 . Would it make it stronger ? Thanks
Thank you very much for your comments! Of course you can add more metal. It will cover better the area you want to remove the rust.
Great video! Thank you for sharing! Do you think I can use a dead battery as a bridge to electrolysis from a charger?
Thank you very much for your comments! Regarding your question... honestly I don't know... Sorry...
Nice video ! How many times can you reuse the water mix ?
Thank you very much! Honestly I don't know. I guess as far as it doesn't get dirty. If there is a lot of rust on the object the water becomes brown.
I would imagine can re-use quite a bit, more likely the anode rebar is likely to build up a covering that may prevent chemical re-actions, much like an old lead-acid battery. The other question would be where the H2 and O2 is coming from eventually that has to be replaced. I think mainly the water. Would also think distilled water (or rain water) would be better, city water has chlorine, maybe not enough to be harmful. Something to think about. Also places that use ground water can contain lots of other minerals that might be be harmful to the metal, may be not in high enough quantities though. I know the well water here contains high amounts of calcium.
@@johnwythe1409 thank you very much for your comments!! 😊👍
Hi! Nice video! Is it a problem if the car battery charger is 6 amps instead of 5?
same question here 🤔
no, it will clean faster I have run on 12v at 6amp for years with no problems.
Does anyone know (when he cuts the rebar) what brand or info on the chop?saw? Please..
😊
It's not a fancy brand... I bought it from Lidl super market chain..
Where did you connect your power supply cable? Did you connect to home socket Where we plug our day to day life utility like TV?
Yes 😊👍
@@RustisGold can we take laptop power supply adapter cable use as 19 v DC supply and the connect it to the home AC socket?
I don't know my friend... You should better ask an electrician...
@@RustisGold it working. Hurray!!!
@@RustisGold thank you so much for helping me out.
just a quicky - learned from personal experience - when doing this with heavy parts over say 2 kg be very careful that the wires / clips supporting the parts do not snap or unwind or you do not acidentally drop the part when lifting in / out of the tank because if they drop and crack/ hole the tank you've got a LOT of filthy electrolysis solution flooding out...
AND it will stain IF it's the fluid at the end of the process!!
I used a thicker grade of plastic tub and it still punched a hole through when I dropped a car brake caliper from just above the fluid level... I may have uttered some colourful language as i tried to shift the tank out of the garage
Thank you very much for the info!!! ....sorry that you had to go through that mess in order to find out.... 😊👍
Thank you for your effort to share this. Well done
Thank you very much! 😊👍
can you make one that can do plating ? like silver plating? gold plating ?
I guess it is more complicated and you need silver and gold to make it work! 😄😄
@@RustisGold and the bath?
Google it. At least there’s a lot of videos on electroplating. I have seen them but more for zinc, cooper, brass and others like that. Just look around.
In North America, the powder you added to the water, is commonly known as "Washing Soda" and can be bought at most grocery stores.
Correct! 👍 Here in Greece it wasn't very easy to find it. They confuse it with baking soda...
@@RustisGold I think it maybe be the same thing as Arm/Hammer Super Washing soda, which should be in any laundry section, or a similar one.
It could be... Honestly I don't know...
@@RustisGold you’re Greek? Awesome! I’m Greek American 👊🏼
@@Ineedabouttreefiddy_93 yes I am Greek! 😊👍
What if I place my parts very buttom? Do you think this plastic will melt?
interesting idea. but i dont think it will melt the plastic i just think it wont work because you have to suspend the object in the water in a way that it has contact with the negative pole of your battery
Excellent presentation & information!!
How can you make a smaller unit? Just make it all littler?
And if you make one so large for such small tools, then can the bath be reused?
Thank you sir!
Thank you very much for your comments!! I am glad you liked my video! Yes, of course you can make it smaller. You will need less iron bars.
Regarding the liquid I didn't reuse it because there was no need to do so. Honestly I don't know if you can reuse it.... 😊👍
@@RustisGold Thanks for your time sir!
I've subscribed!
Thank you very much! 😊👍
@@RustisGold I've read elsewhere that the solution can be reused; for how long, don't know. Can''t the solution be tested for its strength by a litmus test.
When I use it for larger objects the solution gets really dirty. I don't know when I am going to need it again so I don't store it...
Μπράβο, πολύ καλή!
Η σόδα είναι κοινή μαγειρική και θέλει προσθήκη κάθε φορά που χρησιμοποιείται ή μία φορά στην αρχή;
Σε ευχαριστώ πολύ! Όχι δεν είναι η μαγειρική. Είναι η σόδα που χρησιμοποιείται για τα πλυντήρια (ανθρακικό νάτριο - Sodium Carbonate Na2CO3).
Κάθε φορά που θέλεις να κάνεις ηλεκτρόλυση βάζεις περίπου μία κουταλιά ανά 4 λίτρα νερού. Όταν τελειώσει η διαδικασία πετάς το νερό το οποίο έτσι και αλλιώς είναι βρώμικο και γεμάτο σκουριά.
@@RustisGold Σε ευχαριστώ πολύ
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Ειναι κατι που χρειαζεται να το εχουμε στο εργαστηριο μας Μιχαλη,το εχω κανει και εγω και μου εχει λυσει τα χερια,ειδικα στα μεγαλα κομματια μεταλου η σε πολλα κομματια μαζι, βολευει πολυ,αντε παμε για το επομενο,μερες τωρα σκεφτομαι μια καμπινα αμμοβολης !!!! Ευγε Μιχαλη.
Το είδα ότι έχεις φτιάξει και εσύ όταν έψαχνα να βρω ιδέες για την κατασκευή του! 😊👍
Αγόρασα και καλύτερο μετασχηματιστή από αυτόν που φαίνεται στο βίντεο (πιο πολλά αμπέρ) και δουλεύει πολύ καλά.
Θάλαμος αμμοβολής! Τρομερή ιδέα! Το σκέφτομαι χρόνια τώρα αλλά δεν έχω τολμήσει!
@@RustisGold μελετη θελει λιγο και εγινε,αν παρατηρησεις ακομα τις βελτιωσεις που κανουν στα ετοιμα κιτ που πουλανε στο εμποριο θα καταλαβεις.Και τσουπ εχουμε και την καμπινα αμμοβολης...........!!!
What’s the voltage applied to the system?
Thanks!
12 volts DC using a common 12 volt battery charger.
@@Anonymous-it5jw 😊👍👍
What kind of connectors were the wires ran into?
nice video
What's the dimension of the wire?
This is a tank from IKEA, you don have to calculate the volume, it is stamped on the underside
Greetings from Austria
Thank you very much for your comments! 😊👍
Going to use this method to clean a rusty intake manifold. Thanks for the video!!
Thank you very much for your comments! I hope it helps you! 😊🙏
It will work on a cast iron/steel manifold but I doubt it is any use [or may even harm] an aluminium one
Nice job, only a 2 inch drain valve would be great to see on this project.
Thank you very much! That's a very good idea! 😊👍
Can we used sea water instead of table salt?
What we add is not salt. It is Sodium Carbonate (Na2CO3).
It will work just be careful the sea water will produce Chlorine gas at the anode. The soda they use is just to lower the resistance of the water for better conductance.
Good video.
I have had great results using Aluminum Sulphate in the solution
instead of Sodium Carbonate.
Thank you very much for the tip! 😊👍
@@RustisGold - you're welcome.
Aluminum Sulphate is easy to find at large hardware stores.
It used for swimming pools.
Can you do this with a smart charger ?
I tried to use a smart charger and it didn't work...
The ...dumb ones work better! 😊👍
@@RustisGold haha.
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It's my understanding if you use a smart charger you need to hook it up to a car battery then use jumper cables to took up to the tank.
Smart charger? Small one?
I made one of these but I actually used an acid for the liquid. I need to make another and I like the sodium carbonate better.. I like what you have done. I have 3 questions. What are the white wire connectors called, how long is this solution good for and do you need to keep adding sodium carbonate to the mix every time you use ? Thanks..
There called choc blocks 👍🏼
Hi your video is very awesome. I'm using the same charger you have, an ultimate speed but I think the model is newer (2021 if i don't mistake). Yours is a smart charger right? Because mine has a problem that when I start it sometimes it gives me an error and does not start while other times the current is not constant and pulses and restarts continuously. The only way to get this to work is that I'm using a vice on the button so it keeps restarting and not stopping but so it lasts an eternity. Would you have any solution? Thanks for your attention and have a nice day.
Thank you very much for your comments! I was experiencing the same problem with the "error" indication... I got tired of it and bought a new charger. To be more precise it is a current transformer. It works great, much better than the previous one.
You can see the current transformer at the following video:
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@@RustisGold Thanks for the reply, I will consider purchasing the current transformer, thank you again.
hello, can i use a steel container instead of plastic, does it work on cast iron also?
No you can't use a steel container... It has to be non-conductive.
@@RustisGold thank you
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yes you can but the negative side has to be isolated and the steel container will act as the sacrificial and get holey
Thank you very much for your comments. I didn't know you can use a metal container. 😊👍
That much water in that container weighs over 200 lbs. Hope that container handle the weight; my cheap containers of the same size are quite fragile when loaded. If you have carbon anodes available, you'll get less sludge and stuff in the solution. See the videos by ShopdogSam on this subject. Great technique in wiring it up and sharing the amount of Sodium carbonate to use per gallon. Sodium carbonate(Washing Soda in the grocery stores) is much better for this process than Sodium BiCarbonate (Baking Soda).
Thank you very much for your comments and for the tips! 😊👍👍
If too heavy for you then you could add a plastic valve at the bottom. Do this outside or attach an old hose to drain water out. No heavy lifting or dumping required
Do you think you could used galvanized metal for your anode???
Good question but I am afraid I don't know the answer... ☹️
I would say no, based in the way electrolysis works, but then I could be wrong. The sacrificial anode “attracts” the rust. Galvanised steel is supposed to be non rusting.
Hi
I have just finished my first test and it went wrong. The different parts presented different resultas, some are spotless and others seem to be much more rusty than before and even seem to have had the metal dented. I didn't hang the pieces but left them in the bottom, I had just 4. I used a 12V/12Amp battery.
Should I do it again, or can I fix it?
Any idea would be very welcome .. Thanks
The denting is normal. leave over night
do it again and again with different variables until you get it right. by variables i mean the object youre using as the annode, the wiring, the method youre using to hold the wiring to the metal object, etc.
what is the metal of the wire are you using to hold the pieces in the tank from the wood?
It is just normal metal wire... Nothing fancy
Where do you get normal wire? All i can find is galvanized and stainless?
@@thenicotennis I used decent gauge copper grounding wire you can find at lowes or home depot. Obviously make sure they don't touch anything else but your rebar and your metal you want to get rust off of. Worked great. Just make sure you dont have your battery charger on Auto - It has to be manual! And one tablespoon of soda ash per every gallon. no more
@@lorenzo816 not the rebar- the negative charged item? Is that still copper? I heard copper / galvanized / and stainless is bad if it touches the water- doesn’t it create poisonous gas? All I’ve found at big box store is galvanized and stainless… for wire-
What were the white wire connectors and who sold them?
It is not crucial to use that type of wire connector. If you are in the US I would use wire nuts, the plastic connectors used to join 120/240-volt wiring. They come in various color-coded sizes depending on wire thickness. For the wire I would buy a length of what is commonly called 14/2 Romex. It has one bare (ground) wire that will save you the work of removing insulation as shown in the video. The other wires are insulated and black and white and can be used where the video shows blue wire. Keep the copper out of the water solution, however.
Use wire nuts, used to join solid copper wires in homes, etc. They are cheap, easy to find and reusable.
@@thardyryll -----Thanks
Outstanding video, however, what is the parts list?
Q. I have a DC powersource that I can dial in up to 24 volts, but only one amp. Will 12 volt work at one amp? I'm sorry if a dumb question.
I am afraid it will not work due to the low amperage...
Really nice setup! Well thought out!
Thank you very much!! 😊👍
What is the material you use to hang the tools in the water?
Normal metal wire...
Just looked like regular metal coat handed wire to me. Is that right ?
I am not sure how it is properly called... I used galvanized steel wire.
@@RustisGold Hey mate, my message didn't come out quite right. I ment to say "metal coat hanger wire". That is what I'm using to make mine. Thanks again for the great ideas re wiring design. 👍
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I have a 6amp automatic battery charger. Will that work for electrolysis?
My friend, honestly I don't know.... You can try it and see if it works. Some of these automatic battery chargers don't seem to work...
@@RustisGold that’s what I’ve gathered. Pretty much everything I read says use a manual charger but I have this one laying around lol
What do you coat it with once complete?
You can coat it with a transparent gloss paint
You can also heat the tool just hot enough to melt a crayon or candle on it (crayons are paraffin wax) and make sure the tool is evenly coated with the wax... let it sit for a few seconds and wipe off before the wax dries. Seems to prevent rust longer than any sort of painting in my experience.
Nice method, but the wrench was almost with no rust, you should choose something more rusty
Excellent video thx the best I ve seen
Good Job! Time to go buy some rebar.....
Thank you very much!!Glad you liked it!! 😊👍
any steel or [better yet iron] rod will work. even an old shovel head or coat hangers.
I'm going to use the cage from an old shopping cart for my Androids hopefully the cage will provide a greater area for the rust to adhere to and the part will be able to have a greater area to disperse the rust from leaving the part more evenly cleaned and saving me the trouble of turning the part in different directions giving me a more uniform part upon completion.
Sounds like a good idea! Send some input when you install it, let me know how it works! 😊👍
wait a minute..... ear muffs, and respirator, but NO safety glasses when running the chop saw ? bro, that's the most important piece of PPE
Most probably I forgot to wear them while filming the particular scene. I am trying to be careful with such things but sometimes when you have to work and at the same time film things like that happen...
Anyway the chop saw has a protective surface so it is quite safe even if you don't wear safety glasses.
Take care 😊👍
I still have two eyes and breathe well after 50+ years of working with machinery, [not to mention being a fairly heavy smoker]
Tried two different battery chargers, nothing. They kept saying the battery cables were connected with the wrong polarity. Then I tried a 12v bench power supply which worked for a few minutes and then would shut down, seemed like it overheated. Forth attempt, the power supply popped and is now dead. I have double and triple checked that the tank was built correctly and nothing but water was touching the anodes. No shorts. Positive connected to the anodes and negative connected to the rusty metal parts.
Thank you for the simple video
Thank you very much! Glad you liked it! 😊👍
How did you get to 96 litres?
Did you use copper wire or steel wire?
Copper wire
Recall what gauge?
Awesome build, but why does the name Rube Goldberg come to mind?
I think I have the answer to your question! 😊
I quote from Wikipedia...
"... Rube Goldberg was the inspiration for international competitions known as Rube Goldberg Machine Contests, which challenged participants to create a complicated machine to perform a simple task!! 😄😄👍
My electrolysis project maybe was too complicated to remove the rust from just a simple tool but trust me...
It really helped me remove the rust from other really rusty old objects. 😊
For example:
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What do you mean the electrolysis will regulate itself. If you do not disconnect power it will keep on produnlcing ooh
Well... Once the job is done there's nothing more to do.
I meant to say that nothing bad will happen if you leave the electrolysis longer...
@@RustisGold
or better still, it eats rust but not the metal beneath it
Πολύ καλό και κατατοπιστικό μαγνητοσκόπημα. Εύγε!! Πάρ' αυτά αισθάνομαι την ανάγκη να παραθέσω μία απορία, την εξής: Εάν χρησιμοποιούσαμε ως αγωγό, αντί για Ανθρακικό Νάτριο, Υδροξείδιο του Καλίου, κοινώς Καυστική Ποτάσα, δεν θα είχαμε πιο δραστικό όπως και ταχύτερο αποτέλεσμα;;;Ευχαριστώ ευχόμενος τα καλύτερα.
Σε ευχαριστώ πολύ για τα καλά σου λόγια!
Ειλικρινά με πιάνεις... αδιάβαστο! Φαντάζομαι ότι η καυστική ποτάσα και από μόνη της χωρίς την ηλεκτρόλυση θα λειτουργούσε ως καθαριστικό. Δεν γνωρίζω εάν θα προκαλούσε μεγαλύτερη διάβρωση στο αντικείμενο...
how would you clean a bunch of bolts
Soak in Evapo-rust, or straight vinegar
I would use a metal brush instead...
Super efficace belle vidéo .
Merci beaucoup!!! 😊👍👍
Awesome videography.👍👍
Thank you very much for your comments! I am glad you liked it!! 😊👍
What are the white connectors called?
If I am not mistaken in English they are called electrical terminal connectors
Electrical connector blocks, get them in B&Q, Screwfix, toolstation, cheap as chips.
Sir can i use 3 amp laptop charger for this prosess ?
Honestly I don't know if the 3 amps are sufficient...
@@RustisGold any amperage dc adapter will work as long as you have time the time and space.
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Bloody Excellent👋
Thank you very much!! 😊👍
Hello, excellent video, I am very impressed. As I would like to make a similar one, can you please tell me why 6 anode rods instead of 1, does this make it more effective? Would really appreciate a reply.
Thank you very much for your comments! Glad you liked it! Since I used a large thank I thought it would be more effective to place some additional rods. I guess it will work fine even if you put only one rod. 😊👍
Γειά σου πατρίδα! Ωραίος. Θέλω να το φτιάξω για να ξεσκουριασω βαρίδια παλιάς ζυγαριάς.
Θα χρειαστώ ενισχυμένο δοχείο γιατί έχω από κιλό μέχρι 20κιλο.
Γειά σου φίλε! Ευχαριστώ!
Ναι, καλύτερα να βρεις πιο ενισχυμένο δοχείο. Το δικό μου από το βάρος του νερού και μόνο έκανε κοιλιά...
τι μπαρες χρησιμοποιήστε για τα ανοδια
Καλησπέρα, χρησιμοποίησα σιδερόβεργες διαμέτρου 10 χιλιοστών
Where are you located?
I spend time in two different countries, U.K and Greece.
Is washing soda is sodium carbonate?
Washing soda is sodium carbonate (Na2CO3), and is chemically different from baking soda, which is the common name for sodium bicarbonate (NaHCO3).
how do you dispose the water?
Drink it
@@blueonblueracingnova Is it tastes like Coors Light?
Provided you have use washing soda [sodium carbonate] It is pretty innocuous stuff you can tip it on a patch of weeds .... it won't kill the weeds,.... for that you need weed killer ;
Should have used red wire around the outside if it's connected to the + positive.. Nice video, can't believe there are so many comments about the type of connector block you use...??
I know, I was surprised too with the number of comments about the type of connectors I used!
@@RustisGold You could show people how to turn poop into gold and some would complain. Good video
@@trollbane66 This is SO true my friend!!! 😊😊❤️👍👍👍👍👍
can you use steel tube
Sorry I didn't understand your question... Use steel tube where?
What power source are you using? I'm having a hard time finding a good one.
Go to a secondhand store and buy an old battery charger
Anything that will supply 12V at amp or two. It doesn’t have to be a battery charger.
What diameter is the rebar
If I am not mistaken the diameter of the rebars was 8mm.
What & where can one get those plastic things where you are using a screw driver????????????????????
Did you ever find the connectors he was using?
Καλησπέρα απο Ελλάδα αδελφε κ χρονιά πολλά
Καλησπέρα!!! Χρόνια πολλά!!! 🇬🇷❤️🇬🇷😊👍
Excelente, a buen entendedor pocas palabras.
¡¡Muchas gracias por tus comentarios!! 😊👍
That wrench looked new even before it went into the tank.
This was more of an instructional video on how to build an electrolysis tank.
If you want to focus on the condition of the particular tool, which by the way was from the 1970s, it's fine with me...
A really good demonstration. So much better than my wife's dishwasher! (Joke ).
Thank you very much for your comments! 😊😄😄👍
You could just use 1 wire to connect them all together instead of cut join etc .. just strip wire twist put into Lego connector then screw .. 😉😉 .. time saving
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Awesome video!!! But i have to say that at the 9:06 mark it states that is may remove the paint and i say that if they were painted then there would be no need for this video!!! Just my 2 cents though
Thank you very much for your comments!
I just mentioned that it may remove the paint just in case someone would want to use electrolysis to remove the rust from a painted object without at the same time wanting to harm the paint.
Hello
Na2CO3 of NaHCO3 bicarbonate ?
M from Belgium
Use Na2CO3 - common Washing Soda aka Sodium Carbonate
What ever do, don't use Caustic Soda aka Lye aka Sodium Hydroxide aka NaOH - the clue to the problem is in the first name.
@@bigoldgrizzly hello sorry i am chimiste NaHCO3 is bicarbonate ! Na2CO3 is carbonate, NaOH is sodium hydroxide
@@mdelabo
My last chemistry lessons were well over half a century ago ;
bicarbonate is more common for the population, because it is used in cooking. carbonate is more for industrial and cleaning use and more difficult to find, only sometimes in drugstores or DIY but rare
@@mdelabo
it will vary from place to place, but my local supermarket stocks it.
Common salt is probably cheapest and would work just as well, but folks do need to be aware that very harmful chlorine gas is released so perhaps better to use it outside only
can we clean pc heatsink with this?
I am afraid I don't know the answer...
If it's alloy this process will resolve it
Greek flag? Nice.
Ευχαριστώ! 😊❤️🇬🇷👍
The next thing to do after this treatment is to do home made black oxide to protect it.
Thank you very much for your comments 😊👍
How I make golden cloer chemical any one tell me please
Sorry I don't know...