Some additional info for zinc plating/galvanizing: Cromium VI is obsolete on passivated solution because it is carcinogenic. Yellow usually contains chromium VI, so Blue/irredescent or clear thick passivation is the way. 10.9, 12.9 bolts (1000 MPa tensile strength or higher and or 320 HV or 32 HRC hardness) should not be zinc plated because of the Hydrogen embrittlement chance is exponentially higher (there are some solutions, like heating the part to remove the majority of the H) This embrittlement means corrosion alongside of the crystal borders and it can cause cracks For this strength/hardness parts/bolts zinc flake coating is the solution. For example KTM uses lots of 10.9, 12.9 bolts and all of them are zick flake coated. It is a satin/matt coating with good anti corrosion properties (better than electroplating) At my work we have to take attention to this so I just want to share to you guys. Thanks for the detailed video!✌🏻
I would agree completely with your comments on the carcinogenicity of Chromium VI salts - contact with these should be avoided at all costs, particularly if a safer alternative is available. Various EU directives from the early 2000s onwards have restricted or eliminated the use of Cr VI, mercury and other nasties in car production, to protect the environment and public health. I can't comment on strength and hardness.
That media blasted bolt is *chef's kiss*. I've been toying with electroplating and electrolytic rust removal for some time now. It's very rewarding, effective, and fun. Plus it's pretty cheap to do.
Thank you for this, a lot of what customers don’t know about plating(Zinc/caroming etc) is, it’s really all about the quality of polishing of parts prior to giving them to the person plating. I was a polisher for 6 months and used sanding wheels/polishing mops etc. I processed a lot of car/bike etc parts and it’s a lot of graft, trust me
I've a lot of respect for you guys that do the polishing its a very hard job. In many ways its like my trade of painting the painting itself is the easy part its all the prep work before it that's most important.
Your demonstration is perfect, I am a chemist and you have followed all the steps. Not only did you offer us excellent restorations, but you also taught us the methods. You have excellent didactic and pedagogical skills. Thank you, see you soon...
OMG if you knew for how long I've been waiting for this video from you!!! Thank youuuu!!! One day it would be also good if you could teach us some painting tutorial, like how to prepare the surface, how to use filler, what type of paint you use, how to paint, how to put on clear coat, if you mess up any of the steps how to correct it (if it's even possible or you need to restart it, or somehow remove the orange skin etc.) and things like that. I would even pay for an online course from you for these things.
I always thought zinc plating was just too much prep and felt daunting to approach. But you make it look very approachable for anyone. That comparison between the finishes was very informative! Thank you!!!!
For someone just setting up a DIY plating area, this is a very inspiring video. Thank you very much for sharing your system and knowledge. And for you, if you haven't already experimented with pure citric acid, it's cheap and excellent.
Excellent set-up. Carefully highlighting the critical points while still keeping it simple enough to be repeatable. Work with integrity, as we come to expect from RRC.
Love this channel, I often say about other restoration channels that I wouldn't buy a vehicle off them as there are a lot of bodge jobs done. I would defo buy that VFR though. Keep up the good work mate 👍
Well done Bud, a very informative video. I have not done this myself apart from years ago in physic class at school but you explain everything very clearly and concisely. Thanks.
I was waiting for that video a long time ago and you made it ❤ again thank you for sharing your talent and the passion you put into it, definitely you are my favorite UA-cam content creator by far, always excited when the notification pop's up
Might not be too many likes on this one and for once, I am late to the party but trust me , this video is HIGHLY APPRECIATED! Thank you so much for releasing it. 🥳
Been watching the channel since the Honda C90 days and undertaking my own resto - a Vespa scooter. Your vids gave me the confidence to have a go at plating myself, I got the 5L kit from Gateros and getting fantastic results 👍
Perfect timing, I've got to tear a CRF1000 apart for a refresh this summer, hoping to have a dabble. You've also inspired me to try my hand at powder coating too 👍
Awesome! Been watching a bunch of the older vids to get all the little pieces of info gathered together as I am wanting to give this a go myself but this will help immensly. As you've already motivated me that I can probably do it myself. So thanks for sharing your experience!
Perfect video as always. It is a pleasure to watch. I tried it a few times but now I am sure I will be do it more succesfully with the hints you shared. Thanks a lot. I'd like to have information on percentages of zinc and ammonium chlorid on plating solution. Greetings from Turkey.
Thanks for producing a detailed video. Gaining greater understanding of how things are done and why is priceless. I love this content and look forward to further content from you 👍
I have exactly the same kit as you and been plating for several months now on my BMW Z3 project, all underside bolts zinc plated. One thing I've found is that if you're not careful the fumes from the Dry Acid will rust everything within about a metre from the bucket. So cover up or move anything expensive!
Finally some informational videos! You can’t believe how good of a timing this video is! I’ve just wire brushed every single bolt on my RD350. I’ve just bought a starter kit for zinkplating, looking forward to it!
Wonderful process! chemistry teacher mechanic! Beautiful galvanizing!!! I'm from Brazil, I love your videos and restored motorcycles! Congratulations!!!
As always a pleasure to watch your videos. Was already watching douzends of Zinc plating videos, they all achieve only dull surfaces. Your results look great. Could you please let us know, how much Ammonium Chloride and Zinc Chloride you mix per Liter of destilled water ?
As a chemist by background, this was really interesting to watch, and as you've shown, with a little care, folk can get a really good finish if they take care in the preparation.
Really glad you enjoyed the video, although as a chemist you could probably fault me on a thousand items in the video when it came to describing the chemicals and solutions lol
@@RRCRestoration Not in the least, you were absolutely spot on with what you said and what you were doing. I would be interested to know the rough concentrations of materials in the various baths, unless these are fairly standard and widely published.
Super! Même si je ne me lancerai pas dans cette aventure de metalisation des visseries... Mais super informatif.👍 Vous avez du materiel, et aussi un bon sacoir faire! Un vrai pro!
Fantastic video with great detail explanation I have been on the fence as to wether I will be getting a kit form myself and now I know I will definitely be getting a kit, I have been working on an old tractor and the hardware is looking terrible against the new paint.
You've no idea how many metal working channels I've watched where they're plating stuff, zinc plating, chrome plating etc and had no idea what all the liquids were. Great explanation. What's the pH of the acid and alkali solutions? How do you dispose of these things, I take it they can't just go down the drain. Cheers for the video!
Fantastic video mate - thanks so much! And although I think my Ducati 750F1 is the loveliest looking bike ever (not biased!) that VFR is just so damn gorgeous, I'm turning my mind toward looking at importing one into Aus from Japan.
Hey, you mentioned that you´d show the times it takes for the last color coat and all the other things and that you had written them down in a book. Is there some link or somethinmk where I could see those? Also maybe some Product links and mixture variations for the different baths? That would be really nice, Thanks in Advance and greetings from Germany
Nice explanation on plating! Its so much easier to understand when you see a walk-through of someone doing it. Curious about the acid; is there a preferred type, and about what percentage? Thanks.
You, sir, are a genious!!! Love all your former videos - REALLY great work. Now I'm on my way to electroplating - just need to find some blue and yellow passivate somewhere i Denmark 😉
🇧🇷 Olá! Sem dúvida... esclarecedor sobre o processo e mais além. Experimentos diferentes com, óbvio, resultados diferentes. Uma aula instigante 💯 Grato 🙏
Hi thats a perfect demonstration , is it possible to get the recipe for each of the contents of the solutions so I can set this up , ive been doing it a different way and this seems soooo much nicer and straight for 🙏 thankyou
Been hoping for a plating video for the longest time, great job. Love the channel best resto channel on YT love your content. If you even need a project. I have a fzs1000 that would be a great candidate. Only 1 build video on yt of this bike. I can understand you just fine I was born in Inverness. ❤
Great video! It seems like such a mysterious art, but of course it's a pretty simple process. What's the formula for determining how much amperage you need?
brilliant video. Are you able to tell us the quanities of chemicles to water ratios for the size of bucket you were using and where to buy these chemicals?
This was a wonderful video, I just need to know some particulars. Like, how do you make your passivate solutions, what do you use in your acid bath solutions, ho long do you keep things in the solutions. I've never done any plating but I really want to do some for future projects I have. Anything you can tell me will be of great help so I don't have failures and need to do things over again and again. Thank you my friend!
Great video, I'd like to try this myself and would like to know, what is the ratio of ammonium chloride and zinc chloride to distilled water. Seem to be important to get that right
Some additional info for zinc plating/galvanizing:
Cromium VI is obsolete on passivated solution because it is carcinogenic. Yellow usually contains chromium VI, so Blue/irredescent or clear thick passivation is the way.
10.9, 12.9 bolts (1000 MPa tensile strength or higher and or 320 HV or 32 HRC hardness) should not be zinc plated because of the Hydrogen embrittlement chance is exponentially higher (there are some solutions, like heating the part to remove the majority of the H) This embrittlement means corrosion alongside of the crystal borders and it can cause cracks
For this strength/hardness parts/bolts zinc flake coating is the solution. For example KTM uses lots of 10.9, 12.9 bolts and all of them are zick flake coated. It is a satin/matt coating with good anti corrosion properties (better than electroplating)
At my work we have to take attention to this so I just want to share to you guys.
Thanks for the detailed video!✌🏻
I would agree completely with your comments on the carcinogenicity of Chromium VI salts - contact with these should be avoided at all costs, particularly if a safer alternative is available. Various EU directives from the early 2000s onwards have restricted or eliminated the use of Cr VI, mercury and other nasties in car production, to protect the environment and public health. I can't comment on strength and hardness.
It's always a good day when there's new RRC content. I catch myself rewatching prior projects from time to time...
Glad you enjoy my work :)
That media blasted bolt is *chef's kiss*. I've been toying with electroplating and electrolytic rust removal for some time now. It's very rewarding, effective, and fun. Plus it's pretty cheap to do.
Thank you for this, a lot of what customers don’t know about plating(Zinc/caroming etc) is, it’s really all about the quality of polishing of parts prior to giving them to the person plating. I was a polisher for 6 months and used sanding wheels/polishing mops etc. I processed a lot of car/bike etc parts and it’s a lot of graft, trust me
I've a lot of respect for you guys that do the polishing its a very hard job. In many ways its like my trade of painting the painting itself is the easy part its all the prep work before it that's most important.
Your demonstration is perfect, I am a chemist and you have followed all the steps. Not only did you offer us excellent restorations, but you also taught us the methods. You have excellent didactic and pedagogical skills. Thank you, see you soon...
OMG if you knew for how long I've been waiting for this video from you!!! Thank youuuu!!! One day it would be also good if you could teach us some painting tutorial, like how to prepare the surface, how to use filler, what type of paint you use, how to paint, how to put on clear coat, if you mess up any of the steps how to correct it (if it's even possible or you need to restart it, or somehow remove the orange skin etc.) and things like that. I would even pay for an online course from you for these things.
No problem at all I'm just sorry you had to wait as long for me to find time to make the video. All great ideas for future " how to " videos too ;)
I have so many paint jobs to do on my motorcycles. A how to paint would be a wonderful insight in doing it myself
Excellent in-depth explanation for the layman. Keep the projects coming. Interested to see the VFR on the road.
Cheers :)
I always thought zinc plating was just too much prep and felt daunting to approach. But you make it look very approachable for anyone. That comparison between the finishes was very informative! Thank you!!!!
You're very welcome! :)
For someone just setting up a DIY plating area, this is a very inspiring video. Thank you very much for sharing your system and knowledge.
And for you, if you haven't already experimented with pure citric acid, it's cheap and excellent.
Fantastic video. Clear, concise and very well presented. Thanks for sharing.
Best resto channel on you tube,period!
You're too kind :)
What a brilliant demonstration of how to plate at home!
So easy to understand. Thanks!
Excellent set-up. Carefully highlighting the critical points while still keeping it simple enough to be repeatable. Work with integrity, as we come to expect from RRC.
Love this channel, I often say about other restoration channels that I wouldn't buy a vehicle off them as there are a lot of bodge jobs done. I would defo buy that VFR though.
Keep up the good work mate 👍
Thank you so much for that kind comment :)
Very interesting. I think one of the things that sets your work and videos apart is summarised as "details matter".
Keeping that lovely wee Honda in the same room as open containers of acids and stuff? Brave!
Well done Bud, a very informative video. I have not done this myself apart from years ago in physic class at school but you explain everything very clearly and concisely.
Thanks.
Glad you enjoyed it :)
I was waiting for that video a long time ago and you made it ❤ again thank you for sharing your talent and the passion you put into it, definitely you are my favorite UA-cam content creator by far, always excited when the notification pop's up
Thank you so much for your kind comment :)
Might not be too many likes on this one and for once, I am late to the party but trust me , this video is HIGHLY APPRECIATED! Thank you so much for releasing it. 🥳
Thank you mate! Long awaited video, can't wait to freshen up some bits on my old Hondas. Love the long running and very gradual face reveal too haha.
Glad you enjoyed it! :)
@@RRCRestoration always mate, love your work. My biggest inspiration when it comes to keeping a tidy workspace/tinkering on old shitboxes.
Been watching the channel since the Honda C90 days and undertaking my own resto - a Vespa scooter. Your vids gave me the confidence to have a go at plating myself, I got the 5L kit from Gateros and getting fantastic results 👍
Perfect timing, I've got to tear a CRF1000 apart for a refresh this summer, hoping to have a dabble. You've also inspired me to try my hand at powder coating too 👍
Nice one, glad i could inspire you :)
Awesome! Been watching a bunch of the older vids to get all the little pieces of info gathered together as I am wanting to give this a go myself but this will help immensly. As you've already motivated me that I can probably do it myself. So thanks for sharing your experience!
Perfect video as always. It is a pleasure to watch. I tried it a few times but now I am sure I will be do it more succesfully with the hints you shared. Thanks a lot. I'd like to have information on percentages of zinc and ammonium chlorid on plating solution. Greetings from Turkey.
Thanks for producing a detailed video. Gaining greater understanding of how things are done and why is priceless. I love this content and look forward to further content from you 👍
Glad you enjoyed it! :)
Since I watch your videos that I wonder how to do this, thank you sir, love your videos
I have exactly the same kit as you and been plating for several months now on my BMW Z3 project, all underside bolts zinc plated. One thing I've found is that if you're not careful the fumes from the Dry Acid will rust everything within about a metre from the bucket. So cover up or move anything expensive!
I am no threat to your restoration prowess, but thanks for the tutorial, good on you!
Im glad you enjoyed the video :)
Brilliant. Thats my next project sorted, gathering all the materials for the set up. Thank you so much for taking the time to produce the video.
Glad it was helpful! :)
The media blasted bolt looked the best thanks for this walkthrough
Thanks for watching :)
Finally a good demo. Thank you. I guess it would be between the polished and blasted ones. They should cover most projects. Good job.
What an awesome explanation of how to plate things... I'll definately be trying it out now on my GPZ600R hardware.....
Finally some informational videos! You can’t believe how good of a timing this video is! I’ve just wire brushed every single bolt on my RD350. I’ve just bought a starter kit for zinkplating, looking forward to it!
Nice one, I hope you end up with great results :)
Спасибо тебе за твои видео. Они очень полезны. Благодарю и до скорых встреч 👍
Love your craftsmanship and your video production work. A great channel!
Great video / demo of the plating process. Many thanks for uploading this as it will be an excellent reference point. Roll on the next project.
Very interesting - thanks a lot! The VFR looks absolutely brilliant, sittning there in the back 👍
Wonderful process! chemistry teacher mechanic! Beautiful galvanizing!!! I'm from Brazil, I love your videos and restored motorcycles! Congratulations!!!
Such a pleasure to watch resto videos and also learn from them 👏👏
Fantastic video, much more in depth than the usual, loving your work. 👍
Thank you for making all of your top quality content. Were much appreciated!
Keep the Accent 👍 you are who you are and that’s what I like about your channel, there is no Faking 👌❤️
Great video. So interesting and informative. My dad used to do some minor electroplating on bits for his vintage Nortons and MG.
As always a pleasure to watch your videos. Was already watching douzends of Zinc plating videos, they all achieve only dull surfaces. Your results look great. Could you please let us know, how much Ammonium Chloride and Zinc Chloride you mix per Liter of destilled water ?
Great video, really useful - wanted to see how this process is done for ages. Thank you!
Thank you :)
As a chemist by background, this was really interesting to watch, and as you've shown, with a little care, folk can get a really good finish if they take care in the preparation.
Really glad you enjoyed the video, although as a chemist you could probably fault me on a thousand items in the video when it came to describing the chemicals and solutions lol
@@RRCRestoration Not in the least, you were absolutely spot on with what you said and what you were doing. I would be interested to know the rough concentrations of materials in the various baths, unless these are fairly standard and widely published.
Super!
Même si je ne me lancerai pas dans cette aventure de metalisation des visseries... Mais super informatif.👍
Vous avez du materiel, et aussi un bon sacoir faire!
Un vrai pro!
yes, i think people are loving the explanatory videos, i certainly am, keep up the good work lad
A very educational video, man! Excellent work as always!
Thanks so much for that straightforward explanation, I've just bought a kit to have a go :) 👍
Thanks for taking the time to explain this. Awesome
Great tutorial, thanks!
Just randomly, I also noticed you have the exact same welder and welding cart as I do! 😃
Nice one, RRC! Handy little video to have.
Glad you enjoyed it :)
If you lightly wire wheel the media blasted bolt it will shine up nicely. Great presentation thank you
There's magpies everywhere in Scotland now they'll have them bolts off ya! Nice video will deffo have to try this
Finally! I've been asking for this episode more than year ago. Thanks!
Sorry it took so long to make. Enjoy :)
@RRCRestoration here is an idea for a new video, a tour of your garage. Rooms, tools etc.
great timing I will be starting my own plating for my KDX 200 rebuild soon. thanks.
Excellent setup. How do you calculate how long and at what amperage to run the parts? Is it a calculation of surface area or weight or something else?
Hi, you calculate the surface area in this case square inches and then plate them at .1A per square inch.
Fantastic video, thank you! Can't wait for your next project and to see and hear the VFR! Cheers
Great tutorial, Really informative and easy to understand the process. Maybe you could do a quick video on how you calculated the amperage?
Fantastic video with great detail explanation I have been on the fence as to wether I will be getting a kit form myself and now I know I will definitely be getting a kit, I have been working on an old tractor and the hardware is looking terrible against the new paint.
You've no idea how many metal working channels I've watched where they're plating stuff, zinc plating, chrome plating etc and had no idea what all the liquids were. Great explanation.
What's the pH of the acid and alkali solutions? How do you dispose of these things, I take it they can't just go down the drain.
Cheers for the video!
Thanks so much for that. Been wanting to do this for so long and this video is going to be a big help.
Fantastic video mate - thanks so much! And although I think my Ducati 750F1 is the loveliest looking bike ever (not biased!) that VFR is just so damn gorgeous, I'm turning my mind toward looking at importing one into Aus from Japan.
This filled in some gaps for me - I appreciate the details
No problem at all thanks for watching :)
I did this a few years back until I ran out of metal to plate. 😆 I used electrolysis rust removal too which is fun.
Hey, you mentioned that you´d show the times it takes for the last color coat and all the other things and that you had written them down in a book. Is there some link or somethinmk where I could see those? Also maybe some Product links and mixture variations for the different baths? That would be really nice, Thanks in Advance and greetings from Germany
I was waiting for this video. Thank you 👍
Nice explanation on plating! Its so much easier to understand when you see a walk-through of someone doing it. Curious about the acid; is there a preferred type, and about what percentage? Thanks.
You, sir, are a genious!!! Love all your former videos - REALLY great work. Now I'm on my way to electroplating - just need to find some blue and yellow passivate somewhere i Denmark 😉
Have fun! :)
🇧🇷 Olá! Sem dúvida... esclarecedor sobre o processo e mais além. Experimentos diferentes com, óbvio, resultados diferentes. Uma aula instigante 💯
Grato 🙏
Super intéressant comme vidéo. J'en ai appris beaucoup sur le zingage.
An interesting test. Looking forward to see & hear the VFR in action, it looks almost too perfect just sitting there.
Same here although its going to be sad seeing it get dirty though lol
Great video, really interesting. Cannot wait for the next project 👍
Ole OLe y OLe ...muchisimas gracias por este aporte. You are the best. Thanks
Thanks for the great clear description, very helpful!
Hi thats a perfect demonstration , is it possible to get the recipe for each of the contents of the solutions so I can set this up , ive been doing it a different way and this seems soooo much nicer and straight for 🙏 thankyou
This is awesome, thank you. I may take a stab at plating some of my VFR tool kit. Enjoy the 400!
Thank you very much ! As always : simple and clean video. Nice job.
Glad you liked it! :)
Great tutorial! Would love to see the extremes of the couloring. How gold and blue can u go?
Your vids are great entertainment and knowledge.
Thanks for letting us into your secrets
My pleasure! :)
Loved it
The best 12 1/2 minutes and well explained 👍
Thank you, glad you enjoyed it :)
Great video thanks. What are the proportions in these plating bath please
Love your channel. I do a very similar process with nickel plating.
If you ever get bored you could always go into teaching all of your skills. I am sure people would sign up left and right to have your knowledge!
That's not a bad idea for when I've either ran out of projects or am too old to do them anymore ;)
Been hoping for a plating video for the longest time, great job. Love the channel best resto channel on YT love your content. If you even need a project. I have a fzs1000 that would be a great candidate. Only 1 build video on yt of this bike. I can understand you just fine I was born in Inverness. ❤
Great video! It seems like such a mysterious art, but of course it's a pretty simple process. What's the formula for determining how much amperage you need?
You measure the part to find out its area and then plate the part at 0.1A per square inch of material
ok now what container has the Whisky in it 🤷♂ 😊....as usual very informative and interesting 👍
Haha I finished it off the other day but I've another whisky bucket on order lol. Glad you enjoyed the video :)
I have always wondered how you do it especially after all your videos
Thank for thank mate, easy to follow and very informative!
brilliant video. Are you able to tell us the quanities of chemicles to water ratios for the size of bucket you were using and where to buy these chemicals?
Thanks for this. I always wonder what happens under the wire you use to hold the bolts? Is the plating exactly the same?
As long as the part is held loosely by the wire the plating is the exact same under it.
Interesting, thanks for confirming!
LOVE THE CHANNEL! (from Wisconsin USA).
This was a wonderful video, I just need to know some particulars. Like, how do you make your passivate solutions, what do you use in your acid bath solutions, ho long do you keep things in the solutions. I've never done any plating but I really want to do some for future projects I have. Anything you can tell me will be of great help so I don't have failures and need to do things over again and again. Thank you my friend!
Noice piece of info 👍🏼always wondered what plating was all about
Awesome video, thank you!
Great video, I'd like to try this myself and would like to know, what is the ratio of ammonium chloride and zinc chloride to distilled water. Seem to be important to get that right
Very informative and clearly presented. I'm tempted to have a crack at plating, but the missus would complain at the mess I'd make in the kitchen!😂 😂
Another superb upload. Thanks