Learning from the Best Magic Systems Out There
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- Опубліковано 23 лип 2024
- How to create your own Magic System
Magic is straight up awesome and many people have managed to convey that feeling. I hope to learn from them and share to you anything I have deemed useful. World building is such a wonderful activity And i'm prepared for the long road ahead to bring my world to life.
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Software used: Krita
CHAPTERS:
00:00 Intro
04:19 Part 2
09:56 Key points
10:20 My Magic
12:20 Outro and Thanks
Shows Mentioned:
Harry Potter
FullMetal Alchemist
Lord of the Rings
Frieren BJE
Star Wars
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Eragon has an interesting magic system i really like. The main magic system uses knowledge as a power as the magic is just a language where every thing you say is true and what happens depends on your imagination, everything costs energy and if u use a spell witch you don't have enough energy for you just straight up die as the spell can't be stopped midway through and will just drain all the energy you have.
Thanks for the reminder, it's been years since ive heard of Eragon.
@@CreoSolusI haven't read them, but he actually made more, including a Murtagh spinoff.
What I liked a lot more about that magic system was the way Wizards/Dragonriders fight. Magic is so destructive and so dificult to defend against that if a open fight between two magic users brakes out it is a nearly guaranteed death for both of them.
So in reality fights consist of a intense staredown while they try to break trough the others mental defences to stop them from casting anything. Only once somebody has the upperhand, or feels that the other is distracted they actualy attack.
It makes for a really interresting dynamic, which I havnt seen elsewhere.
I like how Eragon magic works but despiste how It ended as "I'm the strongest If I know more" and this make the end of the story just an finger snap. Its too "hard magic" in a point that power scaling become a problem to solve more then a stair to climb
It’s pretty much the earth sea magic system
I'd argue that Light wasn't changed all that much by the Death Note, but was just given the ability to enact his desires. I mean he's screaming "I am a god" by the end of episode 2
I agree /\. also, I've never wanted an MC to suffer misfortune or die more than Light, truly an ignorant fool till his last bloody breath.
Yeah I guess you're right he was kind of a psycho before hand.
@@CreoSolusIt is interesting because the point is made later when Light loses his memories of the death note how much of a different person he would be without it. While it might not supernaturally twist it's user, the power it offers certainly brings the worst out of them in a way that even the One Ring would envy.
Light is just a case of power corrupting the person, without the death note, he would have grew up a to be a completely normal yet exceptional man, however the sudden acquiring of power altered that fate.
@voice-less I disagree. Even before the note, he viewed himself as a superior person. His ability to make and maintain relationships was all a pretense. He is a sociopath, and lying comes as easily as breathing, while he values himself higher than others at the same time he cannot help but put himself in danger and accept Ls challenge and in the process revealing himself. He wounds everyone around him and even himself. A deeply flawed person to be sure. Though everyone deserves a chance, Light is someone I would not give one. He has lost his humanity after and "ascended to godhood"
Edit: I feel I was not hard enough.
Near the end, he was a rabid, cornered animal that needed to be put down.
The classification of magic sistems into hard and soft had a lasting wound in the type of magic system I made, glad to see the breaking of it^^
The fact that magic systems can impact the personalities of the wielder wasn't something I thought of before, so that was an eye-opener too!
Great video as always^^
Thank you, XD yip it's just too over used.
Good luck with your future magic system.
Classifications are but afterthoughts. Not like people couldn't write magic before. I heard of hard soft before I actually write. But as soon as I do I realise it is just dumbed down doorstep to help babies getting in the house.
If you want a "Magic" systeme that as an impact on the users personalities, then i recommend Hunter X Hunter, the Nen systeme is THE BEST Power Systeme
Its Consistant, easy to learn, hard to Master, and has enough leeway to bend the rules slightly to give creative agency and freedom while being Cohesive and easy to explain/understand.
Nen is Litteraly the Use of One's Life Energy, their "Aura", wich is influenced by their personalities, habits and biases.
A MAster of Nen is not only someone who's Powerfull as an Aura user, but also someone who has a Deep understanding of Themselves and others to the point where Nen Masters battles is as much about Power than it is about Psychological Warfare.
I'd still say the classification has a use. I think what it is really doing is pointing out the coherence of a magic system. In my opinion a hard magic system is one that a third person(not the writer) could design a tabletop rpg ruleset to use, using only the information the writer provides.
All it's doing is pointing out the difference in how the system works, and is language readers and writers can use to discuss the work. It changes how the system feels significantly, and I don't think that's bad that we can talk about it. It's fine to chose not to make your system hard, but taking away the language is a little frustrating for writers and readers who have gone out of their way to create hard magic systems. (Same with how some people object to Hard Sci-fi having realistic physics and sometimes even math)
@@Mirsellus i agree with you. But it gets really annoying when people treat it as sacred to follow. Not your case of course. But it is out there.
And worst of all, is when it is used as a framework to imitates another work, creating an inbred cycle. And no it doesn't compare to math in sci-fi because math is obvious in real life. And again, may not be your case, but it is out there.
You can't just stop with a mythology; exploring the ecological history of magic on a world will bring new understanding of the world as you develop it. It's *very* time consuming, however, but really worthwhile.
Definitely, world building can be a bottomless pit at times.
I love worldbuilding, and magic systems are a thing I spent a LOT of time on.
I like these worldbuilding videos. Gives inspiration and help on understanding some stuff.
Eager to see the next one !
Glad you like them! And thank you for the motivational comment.
I don't even do world building and stuff and i love these videos 😂
Something interesting I thought about, is how the mage’s style of using magic effects how the magic turns out. A example of this is how people use magic to make traps. This also brought me to magic circles, which made me try to make a circle for different people with each circle being used by different species to suit their needs.
Just something interesting I thought of a while back
Good point, really nice way to make your magic system unique.
ATLA does such a perfect job of worldbuilding each individual society around the respective bending accessible to them, sub-bending styles are always really interesting how much they can range from extremes like metalbending which was thought to be impossible to minor things like sand benders in the desert
It is a really well done story and world.
The true strenght of Bending is that its steeped in its cultural Lore of the people practicing it.
Its a mirror of real martial Arts, and well they show runners USED real Martial Arts as the source of their bending Move and techniques.
Water bending= Tai Chi , a style based on body posture, allignement and flowing movement
Earth Bening= Hung Gar,a style based on solide postures and stances anchored into the ground
Firebending= Northern Shaolin , Strong style with Dynamic and Powerfull movements
Airbending= Baguazhang, style based on movement and turning/repositioning oneself with lots of mobility.
Wich makes it in turn Cohesive and easely recognisable, you see them do the moves, you know what bending their practice even before seeing the effects.
My favourite magic system is from a ttrpg called Mage the Awakening, there are 10 different arcana (fate, time, mind, space, matter, death, forces, prime, life and spirit) and depending on your mastery of these you can cast spells with various levels of power (players are encoureged to make up their own spells and the storyteller (dm) interprets the rules to decide of they posses sufficient mastery). At a full mastery of an arcanum, a mage can create and destroy phenomena related to it for instance.
There is also a dimension of anti-reality, called the Abyss, parts of which can get into our reality if a mage messes up.
Sounds really interesting, the only board games I'm familiar with is Catan and dragonology.
While it's cool to be gods on Earth like in that RPG (even though you can't do much due to paradox and incredulity and resort to solve problems 'mmmurica style), magic there is actually a mess and just a Dragonball-like power scaling.
But yeah: robbing the master of total -party- kill like I did* is priceless. =)
* transmuting 8 olympic pools of air in equal amount of nitroglycerin can, sometimes, do that... =)
Matter FTW
I personally prefer that of Mage the Ascension, the one with 9 Spheres of magick. It's pretty similar but I think it's more flexible and I really like the idea of consensus and paradigms. Though, I have to admit, it's possible that part of the reason I prefer it is because I _vastly_ prefer the world of Mage the Ascension over the Awakening overall.
Ive been recently reading the Manga Witch Hat Atelier, which has been a really enjoyable magic system to follow. Magic is casted on ink and paper and follows a really hard magic system. Beautiful art as well.
I love this manga, the magic is so in-depth it feels kinda like its own drawn programming language for spells , there are a lot of interesting and clever ways it's used throughout the series.
Also I think you might like Magus of the library it has a similar vibe.
I've got to check it out then, thanks for the recommendation.
Update: love the art style. Looking forward to reading it.
I like the idea that Magic is a living entity. You can't control it without it fighting back, but you can't let it run wild either.
When you have to choose the magic but it also has to choose you. Good type for stories about fate.
@@CreoSolus In a way, yeah. I'm mainly thinking of Friendship being one option.
A few books I've read recently with really amazing magic systems!
The Dead Take The A Train: The main character stiches spells into her skin and hurts herself to use magic, ripping muscles and fat out of her body for powerful spells
The UnWanteds: Component based magic that requires signs and words to cast spells
The Alchemist (Stories of Nicholas Flemmel): The energy in your body [nutrients and what not] are used for spells and fit into elemental archetypes
Renegades Trilogy: Prodigies have specific powers granted to them based off of life experiences
Thanks for the recommendations, The dead take the A train. Sounds amazing. Magic with brutal consequences. Sign me up.
Honestly, my favorite hard magic system is from the Heralds of Valdemar series.
A lot of the magic system is how they get power, how they build shields, and how they bleed excess power. It makes mage duels genuinely interesting, and the psychic system is nearly as detailed as the magic system.
Different characters have different strengths and weaknesses, and occasionally one of them will impress you with their creativity.
Sounds fascinating, ill check it out.
Thank you.
The magic system the series of the witcher shows is one of my favorites, for the fact that you see the effects of the casted magic and not a casting circle or a frase but yet understand what the spell does. Also the touch of an ancient powerful magic known only by a few is something i always appreciate
Witcher games are truly awesome, i enjoyed the first season however I felt they strayed a bit too far from the source.
The kido in bleach is a good form of structure limited by both knowledge and latent power. It also leaves an open end for the incredibly intelligent to create new kido. It’s a very defined structure but also leaves room for potential outliers that might seem abstract. That along with the zanpakuto seem like two separate forms of magic that can mesh well together.
Interesting, however im not very familiar with bleach.
Always nice to hear of new characters out there.
My favourite magic system is in the chinese fantasy series Lord of mysteries, I could go on forever in all the ways it’s just awesome but I’ll keep it short.
You drink potion, you gain that potions power, there are 20 something different starter potions that all gives different powers, each starter potions have their own progression tree where you start as a sequence 9 all the way up to 0.
To be able to get the next potion you need to act in accordance to said potions “intent/powers/will” for example if you start with the Seer potion you need to act as a Seer, that can be very abstract or literal.
You can’t transition between potion lines so the first potion is very important. Ingredients are also a factor for progression.
Then there are all the underlying things like gods/churches/cults, the potions and the magical world as a whole is hidden from the average person because the world is set in a lovecraftian cathulu horror world where knowledge is actively dangerous.
Drinking a potion symbolises abandoning the mundane and becoming a part of the horror, a “beyonder” (someone who’s drunk a potion) fights a life long battle with madness and becomes horrifying monsters should they lose control and this gets way WAY worse the further you progress, which correlates nicely with the stronger you are the more you suffer the risk of going completely mad.
Whoops this got long, uhhh LoM is a long web serial that I personally love but it isn’t for everyone, especially those who like it more faster paced.
It sounds really unique and interesting. Thanks for the brief intro to it. I'll have to check ot out some time.
Damn fr? That sounds really cool, gotta give it a try.
Don't forget how each pathways can intersect and change due to the law of convergence which also influences how a beyonder meets another beyonder(similar to how stand users attract other stand users in jojo) although this is because of the influence of the great/outer ones.
@@diavolojaegar yes! I just couldn’t get into all the cool ways it intersects with the world around it
My favorite hard magic system will probably always be Mistborn’s system. 16 types of metals, and each one lets you do something different.
One pushes on metals equal to your weight. If that metal pushes on something greater than your weight, you get pushed instead. Another pulls metals. One dulls emotions while another incites them. One metal lets you see into the future while another that past. One slows time while another speeds it up.
Agreed, the mistborn trilogy is an awesome set of books
Bro you’re spoiling mistborn a lot with this comment
0:54 even tho ridiculous, it can actually be a good logical exercise that can lead to what people find better, what "better" means, and how we categorize the attributes of whats better.
Indeed
how does this not have more views
Thanks for that XD, enjoy the first comment PIN
@@CreoSolus i commented that halfway through when I looked at the view count. but seriously this is really high quality.
A magic system I've been working on/off has 13 Attributes, 10 Aspects, 0-9 Tiers of Scaling, and the central Anchor for a Spell Circle that determines the overall function of a Skill/Spell.
The intent of the magic system is to allow the creation of a vast variety of customized spells for each Practitioner, but to also be as balanced as possible by making all forms of Magic follow the same exact rules set.
Sadly motivation is a weak point of mine, otherwise I'd be much further on.
Sounds complex but awesome. No Motivation is the enemy of us all XD.
On the subject of creating a believable mythology I refer you to Edgar Rice Burroughs' _Gods of Mars_ and Richard Adams' _Watership Down_, both of which feature in-setting creation myths.
Thank you for the recommendations ill be sure to check them out.
Nice video! Always excited to find a new worldbuilding project to follow.
It's pretty cliched at this point but I am a huge sucker for the "weave" analogy and I've woven (pun intended) it into my own story as well. The idea that reality is just a complex tapestry of energies that intertwine in specific ways just makes for such a clear visual analogy of what magic is. In my own world Lifeweavers have the ability to manipulate the weave of their own bodies, drawing energy from certain senses or abilities to bolster the strength of others.
XD nice one, sounds awesome best of luck with your world.
I like the designs of your characters, they look really cool. I like stories that use cosmic/space-like magic, so magic for Destiny or warframe.
Thank you, man destiny and warfare are awesome examples of fantastic world building.
I like that you mentioned star wars. The way it was with its soft magic sistem was more then perfect, unfortunatelly today force turned into downright devine magic and you can do whatever you want with it and if there are still limitations you go in a pocket dimension that allows you to change reality.
Yeah it's wack, they've gone completely off the rails with it.
in my opinion, the powers system and world building of skyland is what comes the closest to subtle perfection
An absolute classic, for sure.
@@CreoSolus make a review video about it👀
Good presentation of valuable information! Subscribed.
Thxs and Welcome aboard!
Wow, this is very inspiring! I have been working on world building a world for about a year where magic was one of my biggest deviances and focuses, yet this still helped give me beautiful ideas to make it more immersive
Glad to help. Good luck with your world and hopefully you'll create an awesome magic system.
@@CreoSolus Thank you, and I hope so too!
Stormlight archive’s magic system is elite imo and very good to look at
"Not magic, air bending!"
-- Avatar Aang The Last Airbender
XD nice one
I appreciate the time and thought you put into you videos
Thank you. I appreciate the appreciation XD
Have you seen The Magicians show or read the book trilogy? That one had a fascinating magic system built on the idea of subtle hand gestures manipulating the energy source almost like you are weaving a spell with your fingers. The concept took a step beyond when the first major villain grew himself extra fingers specifically to cast more complex spells usually inaccessible to humans.
The other magic system example I'd offer is that of Witch Hat Atelier. Currently only a manga, getting an anime next year. The biggest secret witches keep from others is that anyone can do it. There's a lot of limitations on what can be done that are all based on witch society laws, otherwise, in truth you could do seemingly anything. However casting a spell is an act of drawing. You draw magic circles, the symbols inside dictate information on the effect the circle has. You can even manipulate the size, length, direction and repetition of the symbols to manipulate their effect while the variant of magic ink you use can augment the effect. Because the secret of casting must be kept secret from regular humans, apprentices aren't allowed to cast in public until they are able to draw perfect circles without looking as witches hide the act of drawing behind the cloak they wear.
I have seen a bit of of it. As for witch hat everyone in the comments has recommended it so I've started reading it.
Thanks for taking the time to recommend some awesome content.
Thanks for this video. It is interesting, extensive and informative for me.
Glad it was helpful!
I think that it really only depends on the story of the book. If you want to have a story about a character who gradually learns magic throught it, you go with Harry Potter-ish approach. But if you want magic only a lesser part of the world you'd go with the Tolkien-ish approach.
And personally, my favourite magic system comes from the nordic poemats(Voluspá, havámál, and so on). Magic there is only briefly explained and what is magic and what isn't, is up for your interpretation(also, there the word for 'magic' is 'wisdom' and word for 'wisdom' is 'wisdom', so often you don't know what is 'wisdom' and what's 'magic'). What I mean that you can consider Mimir's well magical, but it's not in the magic system more a part of the worldbuilding. The only magic we know was there is the 'Seidr', which was why Odin hung himself on the branches of Yggdrasil, to know seidr. So you can throw everything under seidr, but not everything is ever said to have a link to seidr. That's why I love it, it's for you to interpret.
Also, that's a great video! Keep it up!👍
Nice point of view. Thanks for the well written recommendation I'll have to check out their work some time.
Thank you.
Hey I'm just passing by but I saw that you used clips from other shows such as overlord and would like it if you put them somewhere in the description. And good luck on the world building ❤
Thanks for the suggestion, I should probably have done a bit more detailed description instead of just adding the main shows.
6:49 ngl this is the first time I’ve seen someone reference fgo/ the fate series in a world building video
Yeah it's not to widely seen or mentioned. A shame.
To me, from this video, the meaning of magic is entangled with the nature of ' skill '. It can be either/ and/ or something you train (set rules, you can do innately (talent), or is given (inheritage)
Skill can have many sources, but recognizable end results / forms
Skill and form go together :)
Inspired off the quote: "Tolkien's LOTR and Silmarillion are prime examples of this, but man does it take TIME and SKILL to create your own believable mythology" - 8:31
Totally see your point. Agreed.
You've got to give people credit when it's well deserved.
Personally my favorite magic trope is the Science=Magic trope, where magic is a set of techniques learned about how to manipulate the environment in some specific way. In particular The Irregular at Magic High School (Mahouka Koukou no Rettousei) comes to mind as doing this really well. Despite the characters offten being quite boring I found myself enthralled by the worldbuilding in the light novel as it goes into excessive detail of the impact of magic on society and politics.
Interesting, haven't seen it.
I really the art style and world dude. The art style simply made but I love it. I draw in a similar way. I love this world of yours. Keep going.
Thank you, for the motivational comment.
Good luck with your art.
Honestly with my most honest opinion my favorite interpretation of magic is the magic system from the manwha called infinite mage
Sadly I'm not familiar with it. I'll have to read it sometime.
Magus Supreme, Martial Unity, and Bro I'm Not An Undead are gems that have some of my favorite magic systems
Just with a name like that I've definitely got to check it out now.
Huge fan of liches and necromancers.
Thxs for the recommendation.
Nice considerations!
Thank you.
Sympathetic crafting magic is a cool idea to me: sewing symbols into clothes to imbue those garmits with the properties represented by the symbol or material of the thread for instance, or Book Binding, the Grimoire can be used to cast spells because you have literally BOUND discrete phenomena between the pages of the book during it’s creation and with the right words you can open the book up and call them out again
That is truely awesome. Love this idea.
So two related things worth considering is how many magical abilities does any given practitioner posses and what are ranges of what any one power can do? For instance in something like DnD a wizard might know a hundred or more spells but each of those spells does one very specific thing with power being the only varying factor (either caster level or using higher level spell slots depending on the edition), now take a sorcerer who might only have twenty toe thirty spells but would have a greater range on exactly what each one could do. Alternatively if you look at a lot of the Xanxia/Xanxia adjacent/LitRPG, you can see full practitioners with as few as 2 very flexible powers up to something like 25 powers being actually useful in combat with some more being of use in some very niche situations. I would put something like FMA very clearly at one corner of this with everyone technically only having one incredibly flexible power, with something DnD on the other end where there are hundreds of incredibly rigid spells to choose from.
Good point, seeing it like a skill tree. Comparing branching out or maxing out a specific set of skiils
@@CreoSolus not exactly you also have thing's like say x-men where everyone has one power, and while it may get slightly stronger through training and they can certainly learn to use it in slightly different ways the power it's self does one thing. You can also have bunches of powers and have them all be super flexible with training but that get's much much harder to make interesting because then anyone can do anything wheeeee! which makes it both for bad games and hard to make interesting in fiction most of the time. Though having that DnD wizard but going with one of the current sub-classes (scribe's wizard) to let them specifically modify the spell's damage type comes close to that by giving them a narrow way in which they can modify any of there plethora of abilities.
Full metal Alchemist - hard magic system
Frieren beyond jorney's end - soft magic system
The absolute perfect representation.
Really amazing shows
This is a cool video!
Thank you.
For constructed magic and how it affects society there's The Wheel of Time series (the books by Robert Jordan): magic is done by channeling an extra dimensional source of magic power and by weaving the five elemental aspects of that power (earth, air, fire, water and spirit) to create various effects, it's not almighty and has a lot of limits.
For the society influence, that's the basis of the series: 3000 years before there was a cataclysm due to the fact that the male counterpart of magic was tainted by a god of destruction and all male channelers are destined to become more and more insane; before that cataclysm the society was like a futuristic society with magic everywhere.
For military use it's complicated: the female channelers refrain from using magic for military purpose first because they wanted to regain the trust of common people and after it almost became a tradition (but they still lacked thr trust).
But when the time comes to go to war: totally devastating and it's also used in conjunction with new technologies to gain tactical advantage.
There's no mana but normal fatigue: a mage becomes more and more tired the more magic (or more powerful magic) is used, then there are different level of power that are an innate charatersic of each person (and that allows to use more or less powerful magics).
Another example of magic for military purposes it's Raymond Feist books: do the exact opposite. 😂
It has the most moronic explanation I ever read for why mages aren't used in conflicts: "a mage uses a spell and the enemy mage uses a counterspell and responds, so the first mage uses a counterspell, too and so on, until the cavalry arrives and kills the mages" (seriously) and everyone accepted as the most insightful thing was ever said, no one realised that that explanation could be applied for basically EVERITHING in war but it deosn't prevent from not fighting only with fists.
I mean, it's not that we dont' use jets because there's anti-aircraft weapons and don't use tanks because there's anti-tank weapons: it's always a race on who is better at what to gain an edge (in non-asymmetric wars, at lest)...
I've wanted to pick up the wheel of time just haven't had the time. Thanks for taking the time to write a well presented recommendation.
Really Appreciate it.
Im really hoping to incorporate the military properly into my story.
There’s also a bunch of manhwa like Solo leveling that use an rpg game system as their magic. The characters have basically become a player of a game and have their own inventory, stats and skills. Then they have to go through these portals that appear and beat monsters inside them. I like this concept because then the characters both can live in the modern life we know, while also letting loose with flashy abilities against monsters. It’s like a new version of classic fantasy. Where classic fantasy has elves, dwarves, magic and you have to fight the big bad. Then those stories were turned into games and now those games are being turned back into stories. The old wizard reading a book has been replaced by a twenty something nerd reading the description of a screen. Some other good manhwa like this is Kill the hero and The only necromancer
I think all theses genres can be awesome but whenever one specific genre gets overused it tends to tarnish the whole trop.
Reminds me of the Persona series where you live as a normal student but can enter a separate dimension where magic exists, and personal growth in the real world can influence one's magical abilities.
I kinda like destiny 2 «magic». Especially after the last few dlc’s. We actually get a good explanation of how it works and what it is.
I loved destiny 2 but i haven't play any of the latest expansions.
I CAN ONLY LIKE ONCE!!!!
Appreciate it XD
please do check out danmachi's magic system too!! i just love how mythology is deeply incorporated in the world building
Will do
There's this game I love and I think it might interest you, Outward has magic systems and lore that I really like. While not quiet being completely thought through, they add a lot to the world answering some and creating more questions, the understanding of this or that thing and the theories I and other people come up with about stuff is pretty fun to discuss, game's got an official discord with devs keeping in touch and joining the discussion now and then.
But anyway, I really like the different things and the way they clashed in the past and what current state of the world is creates some good intrigue of what will be going on later in this world ) Also game's music is great!
Sounds cool thanks for recommendation it, plus im a sucker for a good soundtrack.
Nen is my fav magic/power system.
HxH has some crazy cool power systems
I love the designs and ideas of your magic system! you should look at an anime called the ancient magnus bride as well as a light novel called Grimgar. Both I feel could give you some inspiration. keep up the good work!!
I've watched it, i really enjoyed the first season.
Thank you for the recommendations I'll check grimgar out.
My main thing about the magic i make for my stories is i try making it reflect some of the messages of the narrative they acompany as well as making types of magic ive rarely or haven never seen in any media before, i like when magic isnt just limited to being combat (nothing wrong with combat systems, I love em) and instead could be about other things, like a magic system around talking or seeing spirits and even communicating with them, magic focused on artificial life-forms (golems, homunculus, and my favorite concepct, where magic is actually a branch of cooking where you can cook food with all sorts of effects such as enhanced strenght, night vision, or even speelcasting only being acheivable by eating such magical foods.
You've got a really open minded approach to fantasy which is awesome.
I completely agree with magic being a connect part of the narrative.
Good luck with your future writing.
I have an idea for a kind of magepunk style world, with extremely high magic which is very accessible (low floor high ceiling) but I’m struggling with how much the reader needs to understand about the magic system. Obviously I’ll know how everything works, but I think the hyper-stylization punk brings to a world will allow for a crazy fun and cool system.
Getting that balance right is tricky
I like reverse spell incantation like Zatanna uses
Interesting, sadly I'm not well versed with the DC characters.
I never really thought about it up until watching your video, but now that i think about it... Most audiobooks in this genre that I find enjoyable, have really imo magic systems.
1. Dungeon Crawler Carl ( wacky magical items with results based on popularity of the individual and event)
2. Magic 2.0 series (magic based on how well each person is at programming and the creative uses and interactions)
3. Steamborn series (steampunk tech/magic that's very logical in its application and uses)
4.the broken earth trilogy (tech based magic system that reminds me of FF7 Mako material)
Anyone else have any good books reminiscent of these?
Some quality recommendations right here.
i love the magicians tv series
I think I've only watched an episode or 2 of it. Long time ago. Prehaps I should give it another go.
@@CreoSolus imo even with not so much actual magic scenes, that magic is one of the best i've ever seen
Blue is better then red (and vice versa) depending on the scenario. Just think of colour theory. If you want your yellow to pop you arent gonna use red. You use blue. The same can be said about magic systems. One isnt "inherently better" then the other, but it may be more suited for the world you are trying to build. And just like some people like blue more then red, some people like certain magic systems more then others
Well said. Totally agree with you.
Nah blue and red are terrible, green is objectively the best color.
@@bbodyboi was that the most creative colour you could come up with? Because green is not a creative colour
@@jismeraiverhoeven oh sorry I meant celadon lol
I thought of a very interesting magic system where magic is harnessed through carving runes on your body to form spells but these ruins and the spells themselves damage the user leading them to death but a select few are told the secret to truly use magic and that is changing you body through magic replacing you blood with that of a dragon or you skin with with that of other more powerful creature and making organs that do magic like create fire.
That sounds epic. I love runes and when magic has strict consequences. It makes the matter so much more serious.
Godayum! I LOVE any magic system that uses runes.
@@freljodiandao882 I like ruins but I think that the best way to depict them is as pre made spells such as carving on to a sword so that the sword will always get covered in flames if the ruin is activated.
@@Mark-v9f Very true. Been trying to make a magic system based on runes as well, and that's one of the first problems you run into. I eventually had an idea where magic is casted because of someone's intent, and language is one of the easiest ways to get your intent.
Naruto have interesting magic system imo, tho it gets overshadowed by everything else. Atlast earlier Naruto, by the point it gets to the world war its all out of whack
atlast i got inspired by that one when thinking up my magic system
Unfortunately i haven't watched naruto.
I would recommend Dorohedoro for a unique story with magic unless you have a problem with gore as it is a really bloody and violent story.
I've seen a bit of it, I should pick it up again
you should check out the manga fire punch. has a more militaristic/ magic users are batteries approach very interesting
Thank you for the recommendation. Ill give it a read
@@CreoSolus Just as a disclaimer, it also contains very grotesque themes if that is not your cup of tea
As far as the art style, have you tried minimal shading? I really enjoy your style! Just wanted to provide a suggestion since you said you were not satisfied.
Thanks for the feedback, nice star wars pfp
I agree with @Unknownnagon ... Eragons system of magic realy had something I liked a lot. But tbh Frieren takes the cake. Only something you can visualise in your mind, can be done with the help of magic. It puts no real limits on magic itself and is very dependant on the users interpretation of how it functions... Frieren created a tiny black hole.... what i big brain xP
Nen from HunterxHunter is also very nice and a rather "hard" system. There are just so many awsome systems!
Buuuuuuuuut I dont have a favourite... as long as its not too convoluted and/or convenient as a plot-device I am usually very intrigued by things that we of this reality are not capable of doing.
Ok not entirely true... I sometimes ask people what their take on "magic" is, because I think bringing something into reality that previously did not exist fits the bill... So drawing, writing... creating in general, no matter the context is - as far as I am concerned - magic. It doesn't need to be "perfect" or "beautiful". But bringing something into existence from just your thought is a way too powerful ability to have xP
Each and every take on "magic" fascinates me. 😅
Well said, same here i just love to see different interpretations of magic in media.
Nen is pretty unique and interestingly used.
Does anyone knows what is the show at 6:46? I'll have to watch that full scene as it looks pretty good :D
Fate grand order movie.
I always go for warlock-like magic. Bloodlines breed trust fund babies. The smart asd mages build ivory tower. But warlocks? In those kind of magic, you're a slave, you're a champion, you're a companion.
There's no pre-built power structure. And it always hints a world of magical, otherworldly power. The mundane and the magic exists at the same time.
Nice way to put it. Totally agree with you
I personally like look ar real world stuff for inspiration. Hermetics or alchemy
Agreed. We must never forget the wonders in real life history.
Hi, i really liked your video and i think i will follow your work
I'm a big reader and i would like to have your point of view to some of the novels i've read :
- the craftman Who workshipe the cube
- infinite mage
Thxs for the support and recommendations I'll definitely check them out
LotR is a difficult case because, although it mentioned that human sorcerors and necromancers exist, their powers are never discussed. The characters in the story who are referred to as "wizards" are, in fact, angelic beings (maiar) sent to contest Sauron, but forbidden to use their powers to do so directly. This is why we never have a sense of how powerful Gandalf's magic might be. In Tolkien's tale, magic doesn't really play a part, so its difficult for me to see it as a "hard magic/soft magic" issue to begin with.
Well said
can you look at shadow slave's magic system and power system ?
I'm not familiar with it but ill check it out thanks.
Try reading the manga "Witch hat atelier". I don't know how to explain stuff but i think its a good magic system, my gut is telling me that.
Most of the time, it's right
cool ill check it out. Thxs for the recommendation.
My question would be for the anime/manga of freiren, would that be hard or soft magic??? Its system has the rule of anything that can be done based on your imagination....but imagination is limitless, and so depends on the person. There could be no cap. But there is a set rule. So im lost on that xD
That's when the soft or hard breaks down as freirren is both. The method of mana is hard however the limitless amount of spells, leans more towards soft.
I wouldn't be able to put into one category. Sorry.
not mentionning Brandon Sanderson's cosmere in a video such as this feels criminal
you gotta check him out
I should of referenced the mistborn trilogy. There are too many good magic systems to list
@@CreoSolus you could easily include every magic system in the cosmere but mistborn is often regarded as the hardest most sciency one of the bunch
Love the videos man
Hope your book project goes along nicely, don't give up
I like when magic maintains a level of awe and mystery, but I don’t like it when it becomes a superpower. I also don’t like the concept of magitech as at that point it’s just science and no longer magic. My one exception is Final Fantasy 14 because I love that game.
I tend to agree with magi tech being keep for science fiction
Wouldn’t say Disney brought us Rogue One and Andor 😂 those two were less meddled with by Disney 😂😂
lol
I'll take the smallest win with Disney star wars. XD
Try reading the Tales of Earthsea
Thanks for the recommendation.
Have you read Eragon
The magic system is based around the ancient language which contains the true names of all things but you can only use your own strength to do thing like if you wanted to lift a boulder you must be strong enough to lift it normally
The magic is so much more then cab easily be explained.
It is pretty cool and uniquely used
After reading and watching a lot of magic systems, Hunter x Hunter Nen is the best one imo
I like how adding specific use cases and limits can make there abilities stronger.
Is that Claire de lune in the second part
Yes it is, a person of culture I see.
Your art is gonna animate great, try and keep sharper lines. The simplicity is gonna look good with quick movement
Thank you. Yip its definitely an area I can improve on.
Does sm1 know the anime showed right after Frieren ? Ty
Fate grand order.
@@CreoSolus i suggest you, Witch Hat Atelier, great Rune Magic system!
light was a complete psycho from day 1
You're probably right, he was a bit psychotic day 1
Whats the anime in 6:51? I always forgot it's name. Pretty good video, thanks!
I think it is frieren but not sure.
@@edersonniconah bro, i think it's one of the Fates, but i dont remember which one
Yes its a clip from fate grand order.
@@CreoSolus thank you broda
[12:20] They don't! :D
People are more likely to read their script in several takes, editing it all after the fact. Especially for those _really_ long videos.
Makes sense I'll have to get better at managing time for art and time for videos.
What's the show @6:48?
Fate grand order
Enter Allomancy lol
Real Cool system
So which part of South Africa are you from?
Gauteng. RIP
@@CreoSolus NICE! Same originally. Living in Dubai now. Keep killing it pal!
I thought of a interesting magic system that I am working on which involves multiple element you would find in a magical world such as magic being all around but, also can come from different creatures and humans can use magic through carving ruins on themselves but there body's were not meant for magic so detreat from using it and are seen as weapon to be thrown away but, people figured out they could use part from magical beings to alter themselves like taking the eyes of a dragon and using them to make magical eyes for a man or taking the fire core of a lava monster and implanting it so that a person can control fire. This is not information given out and only the kings of country's know this and use this knowledge to make powerful weapons and any who aren't suppose to know will be killed. I will add more to this idea as I write a story I just though I would share.
I think you've got a really good idea on your hands, unique, well balanced and interesting. Best of luck with your story and your world.
I am a firm believer in 2 things, 1 mages can manipulate nature and the world, powerful mage battles should show the scale of what is happening otherwise readers and viewers can become desensitised to the large spells. 2 magic is magic in the system I’m designing for my world I believe that magic should be able to do everything, the idea that a mage is limited by affinity is stupid, I believe that a mage should be more limited by study and practice than birth, and that different cultures and people would learn to use magic differently the idea that you can only cast magic with a wand or a physical object is dumb. What about tattoos or rituals, where’s the golems and permanent monuments that change the environment around them.
A world should also show signs of past battles, if your world has extremely powerful mages, it should be shown through the worlds story’s and geography, mountains might be where there are no fault lines or lakes where they don’t make sense.
Good point about showing the aftermath of ancient mage battles. Very clever. Good luck with your story.
@@CreoSolus you to!
Have you read "Witch Hat Atelier"?
Just started it, thanks to people's recommendations.
@@CreoSolus Oh that's great,
Minor spoiler below
I hope you don't drop it because of gay scene.
I have no problem with same sex couples XD
@@CreoSolus It's just that some people drop it because of that and some hated it because it tip toed to the question of "Will gay people stay gay if they got an amnesia?"
click on video about good magic systems.
Look inside - rock paper scissors magic systems...
Thanks for clicking on it.
@@CreoSolus ye no worries
"System magic" the kind you see in manwha are my kryptonite. Is it overdone? Yes. Will I read every one that I see come out.... guilty.
Guilty pleasure, XD
The Percy Jackson show adaptation is not very good, would not recommend :(
RIP :( Maybe third times the charm
I thought it was fine, but I haven’t read the books for years so maybe thats why? What do you think it was missing?
@CreoSolus it was mid yeah but if you actually think about it percy Jackson is mid. Fight scenes in the books were never that good either it's just fun to follow the story. Mercy Jackson is a nice book though first book that lead me into reading story books.
@@Soyed_Boy I haven't read the books and I found it nonsensical garbage (more the first movie than the second).
@@Mr_Yod movie? The one from 2010? What do you mean second movie? there was only one. Or are you calling the episodes movies?
The Percy Jackson movies are awful. The new series is a bit better tho
Awful is an understatement XD,