@@roberthanson5840 it would be nice to see a yin and yang type of situation where despite being on opposite end of spectrum they are still in same plane i.e, same spectrum.
Conversely, trees experience a form of death through the winter, shedding their leaves in autumn and only experiencing rebirth in the spring. There could absolutely be a form of tree magic that focuses on this "death", rather than the "life" that reappears in spring.
Gods, that's such a fitting theme. Just as how in real life the increased understanding of biology has changed how we see health and disease and signs of them.
This just made me remember a very rare condition called "stone man syndrome" where instead of repairing wounds with muscles they go through a process called "ossification" where everything that got wounded gets replaced with bone, effectively petrifying that body part.
And because your body is constantly suffering tiny amounts of damage and replacing dead cells, it doesn't matter if you avoid injury because you slowly turn to bone anyway. It's apparently very painful and eventually fatal.
Med Tech here, I haven't looked at the disease, but I assume it's the calcification of muscle? This would be a really OP kind of prophecy for a character afraid of pain. However the "cure" could be the reversal of calcification. That uses several proteins and hormones and minerals, specifically Vitamin D, Magnesium, Phosphorus, and K2 to remove the "bone." Natto is a type of bean that carries I high amount of vitamin K2, so perhaps the cure is a bean from a forest magic user. Idk, something to think about.
oh god wait- (just came to mind/made it up when i read your comment but i still like it) Bodily Curse: *Split* you and your skeleton are pretty much the newest terminator, a skeleton that can act on its own, then the main "half" thats now flowing everchanging mass- able to take any shape imaginable (in this case more nercomany/necromorph/ just bodyhorror instead of >able to make a literal gun)
I remember another person that made a magic system that revolves around gold being plated and grown onto bones. I think I like this concept more, as the concept of a bone mage becoming more demented looking the more powerful they are as they continue to merge more bones into their body is awesome. Boneling battles would be interesting as with the tree magic system you are incentivized to play carefully and wait for defensive magic like oak magic to wear off, while with bonelings, they would jump into close quarters with enhanced physicality and try to rip and tear the power off of the other user.
That's exactly right! It can turn into a pretty thrilling cat-and-mouse kind of fight -- plus those dynamics shift based on the seasons and the types of trees/bones available.
What an interesting approach to world building! I am a folklore enthusiast and esoteric practitioner. I don't know if you came across the certain stories during your research, but your concept of bone magic here carries a lot of similarities to quite a few ritualistic practices across the world. In many parts of Asia, hardcore esoteric practitioners will always have certain bones in their collection as they belief that certain bones from animals and human carry very specific energy which can be directed towards specific goals. I've come across a tribe in East Timor whose warriors put crocodile tail bone in their mouths to grant them physical prowess. Some would powder teeth of their previously defeated enemies and smear it along their spines to temporarily possess abilities of deceased enemy during fights. Others claim to be able to inflict burn damage, blinding the eyes, cause mass confusion, grant temporary inhuman strength, poison the wind or even call upon lightning with their prized bone with their bone amulets. Some of these magic bones are consumable one-time things, while others are more permanent talismans. All magic bones with special powers have undergone certain rituals to awaken the inherent powers in them. Sounds fantastical, yet such practices are still present in this modern age.
Many parts of Asia huh? Can you make a list of the peoples and locations associated with each bone usage? How many practices are similar? Unique? Are there more instances of bone collection found outside of Asia?
@@BigToody Most certainly. The following is a general overview of one example of bone magic relative to their geographical location: 1. Warriors of the Igorot people in the Philippines have "Agimat", charms made of metal, plant materials and bones carefully selected from different animals believed to grant a range of qualities to enhance or protect the owner during conflicts. Activation of the Agimat powers often include calling out the name of spirit residing in the charm. 2. The Dayak Bidayuh people in Borneo island in Indonesia use a lot of magic bones in their traditional attires and weapons. These animal and human bones bestow different abilities like being able to move unseen, move extremely fast, jump abnormally high, etc. 3. Among the Shugendo practitioners in Japan, some of their rituals involve collecting bones during their pilgrimage in the mountains. These bones are often used as intermediary to channel powers between the mountain gods, animal spirits and the practitioners when they need to foretell the future or heal ailments. 4. The Bomoh are traditional esoteric practitioners of Malaysia. While most conservative Bomoh nowadays veer towards healing and protection with heavy use of Islamic recitations, the more tribal ones still use bones from animals to cast curses that cause sickness and misfortune towards the target. Rituals to awaken powers of the bones including fasting during auspicious days, asking malevolent spirits to take residence inside the bones and recitation of certain spells for hundreds of times to charge the bones. 5. The Saisyiyat people of Northern Taiwan hold great reference to objects known as Alima and Kudum, which refer to ancestral heirlooms. They consist of various things from metals, to wood and a lot of bones. These objects are heavily venerated as they hold significant influence over the fortune of a person, family or even clans. Alima and Kudum need to be "fed" with rice wine, blood, milk or other substances based on what the resident power/spirits like. Their function range from healing and protection, to physical prowess and spiritual transformation. These are some of what I've personally come across. Most of the practices carries a lot similarities between them, but I personally found the Japanese Shugendo and the East Timorese to be very unique, as in nobody else do it they way they do. I've heard of that traditional magical customs in Africa involve heavy use of bones as well, but I am yet to witness it in person.
@user-bc9cr7gj5z Wow, what a wealth of knowledge you've just shared. So grateful to have access to all this information to further expand my research -- sometime later this year I'm sure it'll all play into Bone Magic Part 2. I've done some research into cultural /spiritual uses of bone (but not as much as you). I live in Borneo at the moment -- some Dayak tribes here used to headhunt to collect skulls. They believed the practice forced the soul of the dead to protect their homes. SO MUCH great world-building potential out in the ACTUAL world.
@@hadrianpollardI kind of like stuff that involve the “raw” elements of the human condition, like using blood as fuel for magic, as an example. Or for rituals, too. Like anything that’s a sort of “take and give” system. Genuine question, are there things like people using bones for weapons, like using their bones as weapons, or even making their body ten times faster by making their bones more brittle, as an example.
@@hadrianpollard Exactly. You can really take concepts from all scientific or even math-related fields and include them in the world building process. (Like taking cell theory or even string theory and coming up with something from that. What I did was I made string theory a magic system where Resonators can manipulate the very fabric of reality)
This Power System is very cool, and has potential for very interesting Combat scenes. I wonder if you have seen Kimimaro in his fight against Naruto, Rocklee and Gaara( you can find it on youtube ). Kimimaro also uses Bones to Fight in Cool ways.
I made a character who's named Revenna. Her thing is that she haarnesses the power of death through using souls and dead bodies. She can turn into those people and even being them back if they have unfinished business in life. She's, obviously, not a good guy, probably my most evil character. I could go on and on about more of her character, but that'd be too long for most people to read. I find your magic system to be really cool, it's super Epic! I might do my own on bones too! It's so cool how you do research too, that's what makes the best systems.
I love this idea. When I first heard it and saw the imagery of bones jutting out of the body, my mind oddly went to puppets, as the skeleton is the rigging of the body, it gives itself limits. I thought that with enough power and malice, someone evil may use bone magic to manipulate another. With 4 thin bones impaled perpendicular to each other at the wrists, two on each wrist, and threads or possibly even, tendons, tying them together, a user of bone magic could puppeteer someone whose will is not strong enough to overcome the influences of bone magic. It was just an idea but I hope you like it and maybe even build off of it in away that better fits your story.
The spine hanging from someone's back triggered an old memory of a Hulk comic where he gets sent to some other world or time and gets a spine creature attached to him at the base of his neck that is sapient and forms some sort of symbiosis. It just activated that in my brain i dunno. This is fuckin cool my guy.
This is such an interesting concept along with tree magic. You really thought it out quite bit and i love when writers or artists put so much work and passion into their creations. Lately ive been finding quite a bit of those really original and unique ideas over the internet, the other noteworthy one would be plant-based madieval mecha drawn by Treelancer and i recomend checking out his channel to everyone who found this video interesting.
There was a video that was a short made by PIrateSoftware that someone from his chat talked about skelepathy, where essentially skeletons, the animated kind, could find you because your bones could telepathically speak to them from a distance from inside you. This video made me think of it as a type of bone magic lol
Bones having the same general function, regardless of what species they originate from has an interesting implication. This could allow some unique or exotic bones to have very interesting magical applications. The two obvious examples I can think of our deer antlers and elephant tusks. But there are even stranger bones. After seeing this video, I did a quick Google search and found stingrays. Their skeleton is insane.
This is supremely cool! I am glad I have discovered a fellow worldbuilder. And your magic system guide would be a phenomenal asset to use. Thank you sooo much
The Karambit sounds like a great option for bone magic users, but another good option would be the Bagh Nakh from india. As it is an concealable weapon designed to slice through muscle and skin. It might not let them get as deep as an Karambit. But it would be great for plucking bones that are close to the skin without a thick layer of muscle or fat to protect them. On that note, if one had to fight regularly fight against bone magic users that can pull bones from living prey. Than it would be advantageous to have a body like a heavy weight roman gladiator. With thick muscles from training paired with a decent layer of fat from an oat, or barley based diet. With Barley being the more effective of the two. It might not be enough to completely avoid having your bones yanked. But I imagine that it would be harder to find and take bones from people when they are well fed during times of plenty. And it would be easier to find and locate bones to pluck during famines, or economic down turns. When people will have less fat or muscle on them. And their bones will be closer to the surface.
Wow, I had never seen a bagh nakh before, that's an awesome weapon that TOTALLY fits with boneling powers/culture. I appreciate the share! Also, great point about the muscle mass. Though I imagine the best bet is to avoid close range as much as possible.
Strangely the first thought I had when you mentioned harvesting human bones was the idea that humans weren’t THAT beefy as animals go. Then my brain made the leap “but what if binding like to like let you have MORE BONES.” So it would make them far more monstrous physically because they could pack on layers upon layers of human bones to become incredibly powerful. That’s just where my mind went, though.
I just stumbled upon this video and it inspired me to have a train of thought. I'll share my initial thoughts here- Our protagonist, Riak is a hybrid, born from the forbidden love of a tree magic user and a boneling. His parents were killed due to this but they were successful in hiding away Riak in a remote village. Due to having both magic system present in his body, Riak experienced a torturous childhood. Not knowing his powers well, He couldn't control the powers. Resulting in the bone magic giving him extreme pain while tree magic held his life by a thread. The clash of two opposing powers would result in seizures. The villagers didn't know about magic, thus making them fearful of Riak. But Riak was good natured. When he didn't have seizures, he'd help out anyone he could, making him beloved by the village. But their fear didn't go away just because he was good natured. Riak, not wanting to scare the villagers, often headed to the forest when he sensed his condition worsening. One one such day while he was experiencing a seizure, a particularly life-threatening one, he encountered a mage. The mage sensed the irregularity in him and helped to stabilize his condition. Later when he learned Riak's condition he understood what was wrong with him. Feeling sorry for the young man as well as being intrigued by this unique phenomena, he invited Riak to accompany him on his journey. This journey will go on to foretell how Riak mastered his powers, becoming one of the if not THE most powerful mage in history
Nice, i love all of it, with enough thoughts you can do so much with the idea. I remember in Shadow and Bone they used acient stag antlers and connected them with main characters skin to amplify her power.
Very interesting, especially since I’ve had a similar idea involving bones and trees. Essentially, there were these certain trees that, when the bark was in contact with live bones (usually through biting) would give the person a sort of spell or effect. This would then be shot out through the bones (think of it as electricity surging through a wire) and casted as a spell. However, the last bone the magic flowed through would temporarily dissolve, which would reform a minute or so later. This means a careful cast may only leave a single finger bone dissolved, while an unrefined cast could dissolve a bone protecting an organ, leaving the organ unprotected. Anyway, very good video!
Intense! I love magic systems with a serious cost. Reminds me of Wheel of Time, but instead of losing your mind you lose your body. I wonder if making the cost more permanent could add more drama and potency to the use of the magic? In other words, you're not casting willy-nilly cause pretty soon you'll be disintegrating into nothing.
I know your a fantasy author but you have a wonderful way of blending reality or reality of the magickal world and fantasy. As a occultist I find this refreshing!✨Thank you for sharing your artistic worlds! Oh and there is a spiritual practice called bone breathing and of course there is a practice called necromancy.
as someone also working on a book, I too have incorporated and bone-like manipulation into the story. I am looking forward to seeing how both of our stories will play out once they're finished.
I wanna do this in dnd but make some tweaks, like let’s say you insert leg bones in your leg, then of course you’d have advantage in running, jumping, and kicking, but let’s say you use chameleon bones, then you could start to use camouflage, but to make it fair I think you’d have to use a lot of chameleon bones, and I think it would be fair because of the size difference, while let’s say you take a ram, you take the skull as a helmet but since it’s a ram you can head but with tremendous force, but let’s say you put a rams bones in your legs, you can walk and fight on any surface. I think the two systems are amazing for story righting and also using a creative system in dnd, I know that might not what you was going for but it’s still amazing concepts to change things up of how people think.
Dude this is fantastic I got images of wizards breaking their own bones for power and not feeling the pain. As well as armor made of different animals bones decorating a boneling like a crocodile jaw connected to the rest of a dog skull. Also an obvious weakness is a bonelings spine so breaking their spine during or even after combat would be extremely brutal and taboo practice. Following along with that thought seeing a bonelings spine from them turn their back to you as a major sign of trust or shows they view you as not a threat. So many cool ideas for fights keep it up!
This is so similar to the magic system I'm working on! Yours is so cool and so raw I can just imagine what the most powerful bone mage would look like haha. Very inspiring!
Imagine a fighter who collects animal teeth and paw bones (Claws). They could wear a messed-up form of dentures and gain a crazy biting fighting style, maybe even increased grip strength. Amazing system 100 % I will keep your thought process in mind when writing. Thx
Some niche users that focus on a specific bone would be super cool too tbh. Like a person, that focuses on the small bone we have in our ears and harvest them and shoots them lika a projectile or smth. Or knee caps as mine blades or the end of the spine to create a tail
A boneling barbarian whose entire body is encased in bone armor that he created by breaking every bone in his body multiple times, just to let them heal stronger.
how do they clean the bones? do bonelings like eating meat and do tree people like eating vegetables. my show has a race of people that colt the energy of what they eat and they are kinda similar to your ideas and i think it’s really cool. because of their philology they can’t go back to eating meat after consuming plants so in your shows case would bonelings begin to develop more animalistic traits that would allow them to harvest bones (off the top of my head a tiger like tongue to help them scrape the meat off) and conversely would the tree people gain traits that would be advantageous to gaining sunlight such as not liking clothes or something
^^ That is a very cool idea, is it for a book? A game? As of now, there is an inclination toward hunting in bonelings and toward gathering in the treelings. Bonelings have creature companions called bone-pickers that help clean the bones, but I love this idea of physiological changes that would help them prep bones for magic. And to become more animalistic or plant like the deeper you go in bone/tree magic... that's awesome. Puts a new meaning to the phrase "you are what you eat" huh? Thanks for sharing!
Karambits being made first as a harvesting tool makes this way cooler like using the weapon made to harvest plants to murder and then harvest the bones from whatever you kill sound verry cool
I love hearing about other people’s magic systems because it gives me ideas for one that I am making for a minecraft based dnd campaign… I will be using Minecraft to let the players build the lore and society, while being limited by the rules of how the world works.
First video ive seen of you so im not sure if theres a rule about only accessing one or the other magic, but honestly this whole life and death theme is awesome either way. Though i love the concept of yin and yang and balance because its so prevalent in cultures all over and it would amaze me if you could incorporate something like that into the world your building. Like how in star wars there is the jedi and the sith but force practitioners started out trying to keep both the sides in balance within themselves and hey you could even use some mechanic that makes it hard for "modern day mages" to even realize using both is possible and have that cemented into the culture of magic practice in your world. Add in some deep grudges between the flora and fauna factions and it would essentially be a one in a billion chances of finding someone who practices both. Also another person said something about a branch of bone magic focused on life because of blood being so tied to life itself and i put my own two cents in saying mushrooms are very closely tied with death (like have you seen the mushrooms that turn ants into literal zombies?) and incorperating all that throughout a story would add so much mystery and flavor to borh the magic and story. Idk im excited to see what happens but id be ecstatic if i see any of this incorporated into your story!
weird coincidence but I had written a character years ago who had two types of magic and they happened to be tree magic and bone magic. His tree magic was fueled by selflessness and his desire to protect others, and his bone magic was fueled by selfishness and rage. Each type of magic had its own weaknesses and strengths and only by discovering himself and finding balance within himself would he finally be able to wield both and realize his potential. It's interesting to see another person's take on similar stuff like this
5:33 I've explored something similar to this myself actually, and it's something I've come to refer to as: The Cannibal Armory. Though this is more used on adversaries as a last resort. And remember, cannibalism isn't simply the act of consuming/eating an individual of the same species, but the utilization of the body/body parts as a whole.
I feel like the opposite of each of these extremes should also be used as forbidden arts. Afterall, the strongest wood would be dried dead wood, and the strongest bones are in the living. Like ying yang, good in bad and bad in good, black in white and white in black. The way this would work is with bones, you simply draw strength from your own bones, not hurting you as it is a part of you, and since the bones are still living they would constantly regenerate. For the trees, you must prepare it by killing and drying it by whatever means used, and instead of drawing out the trees characteristics, you just get improved durability and strength.
just went looking for why gold would be the best for conductivity based magic and got my answer because this video made me go look for it so thank you. also I'm just in from my first 5km in AGES and my legs were heavy and sore. Where I'd usually let that interrupt my progress and it would make me stop, I acknowledged the pain and thought about it and I was able top push on. I never really di this before but for some reason today I did and it worked. THEN I come back and you confirm this in this video, so ill be doing it a lot more going forward so thank you for that too.
This is such a cool concept, I can already thing of tons of cool ways to expound upon it🤩. Maybe the longer a bone is left in the more the qualities if the creature it came from will present themselves. For example, grafting bones from a bears paw onto yours would cause your arms to grow larger and your nails would turn into claws in the early stages, but as it progresses your arms will become hairy and you'll loose mobility in your thumb as it starts to become a bear paw. Almost like you're stoking the embers of life essence left in the bones with your own spirit. Over time they become harder to separate and the more skilled the boneling the longer they can linger in the stages where they have the greatest benefit with the least downsides. This could be a great way to emphasize how scary a boneling that uses human bones can be. They can use the bones of people to gleam memories and learn their secrets, or they can take bones from a living person, or maybe give them bones to control them like a thrall. He could firm a cult around gum that tries to graft his bones onto magic users with great potential to resurrect him with more power, like orochimaru trying to take itachi and sasuke's body. Really great system, I gotta go watch the tree magic vid now🏃♂️
Hadrian, I really want to nkow your work. This video is awesome and your idea it is too. Congrats to you for your book. Soon I want to read it. Cheers from Brasil
When I heard about bone magic, I immediately thought about Kimimaro from Naruto. It's interesting how your system is kind of the opposite, shoving others' bones into you, instead of your overgrown bones into other people
This was fun to hear about. IRL there are links to different cultures and mythologic magic around bones as well so bone magic is a pretty sensible thing to base a magic system around as well. Im always interested in peoples ideas for new kinds of magic or new ways someone uses magic.
for some reason this makes me want to see whether you could "push this system to its limits through advanced knowledge" (ie - careful placement of harvested bones in areas that they cannot be placed through traditional methods]
I immediately thought of trying to create bone nails and sutures so one could better affix bones to their body without fully compromising the flesh in the methods that jabbing or sheathing the crudely would do. Nothing quite so scary as the patient warrior that has learned efficiency
My fursona is a natural born Ostiomancer in his story. He manipulates bone at will. He also couples this with Necromancy. This video is an interesting perspective on such magic.
My fursona embedded his consciousness into the quantum field giving him science based powers. On a scale of 1 to 10 (street level to planet level) how powerful would your necromancy and ostiomancy be?
@Krane5328 Crypt's Necromancy is highly advanced. He can ressurect an entire warzone just by standing in it. If he wills it, they rise. The only issue is that when he raises someone, there's an RNG effect that comes into play. The person or people he ressurects may come back as themselves, or come back as a mindless thrall, whose only purpose is to take orders. However, there's also a chance that they may even ascend beyond what they were in life. They may become a shade, a wraith, a wendigo, a death knight, or even a lichking. I could list more, but over the years, he's accrued and invented vast amounts of different undead to suit all sorts of needs and purposes. He doesn't get to decide what happens during ressurection, and thus, he assigns his units carefully based on their power and skill set. Also, if the task is difficult enough, he won't even waste units. He'd just handle it himself to preserve his armies. After all, what's a necromancer without his legion? As far as his Ostiomancy goes, he can shape, malform, reform, bend, twist, stretch, contort, shatter, extend, mend, and compress bone in various matters, shapes, and sizes. Pretty much, if he can imagine a shape, he can form bone into said shape. With a flick of his wrist, he can turn a person's body into a reverse iron maiden, as their rib cage impales themselves from the inside out. He can thicken and harden your skeletal system to become more carapace like in nature to withstand higher forms of damage. He can repair broken or even shattered bones from mere fragments at the cost of the repaired bone becoming more fragile (unless he has more bone material to apply) mere breaks or fractures are easily repaired without much consequence. He can mend his own skeletal system quite easily, reshape it to fit his own needs, and can even focus ostiomancy entirely on himself to allow him to levitate and fly. He can grant others with this ability so long as he maintains focus on these individuals. HOWEVER, if you were expecting him to be able to fight against beings who manipulate space and time, no, he's not up to that level. Don't get me wrong, he's goku levels of strong, he's naruto levels of fast, but he's not fast enough, nor is he strong enough. He just can't stack up to that yet. He does have deep magic, though. A magical substance that, when one comes into physical contact, becomes heavy and dense. The longer one is exposed to it, the heavier and more dense they become. This status effect is known as "affliction." He can project this magic in many forms. He can coat items in it, he can wield it as a weapon, lash out with it as a force wave, project it in various AOE like formations, condense and compact things, bend and reshape objects with it, can use it as a shield to effectively block incoming projectiles, reshape them into shards of deep magic, and send them back, and later on in his story can even use deep magic to open portals within his own plane of exsistance. The biggest issue with deep magic for him is that there's only ever a limited amount of it. Once it's gone, it's gone. He has a process he goes through called "consumption" that allows him to break items or areas down to make more deep magic, but he needs vast amounts of surface area in order to recoup what was lost. And once something is broken down and consumed into deep magic, it's gone forever. His deep magic also dissipates when it comes in contact with the sun. This is also relative to his own fatal weakness to the sun. Exposure to the sun will dissipate his deep magic immediately. The sun may also char his bones if he's not careful. He makes avoiding the sun his top priority at all times, and is one of many reasons why he will never stack up against beings who manipulate space and time.
@@CryptTheNecromancer Don't worry I find your essay engaging and intersting. Krane's consciousness and free will is tied to the quantum realm and it's general randomness. He can utilize his will to manipulate the randomness of quantum mechanics to use it a "magic". Krane can easily be in multiple places at once, he can become incorporeal, teleport, have a 6th sense, connect objects, and manipulate matter. He can do all sorts of insane stuff by manifesting the weirdness of quantum physics on a large scale. But if it was just this Krane would be a literal science-based god. His mind is connected to the quantum realm but it still has not transcended the computational power of his brain. No matter how much math Krane knows he has to be able to visualize things and understand them intuitively to actually properly use his powers, so no higher dimensional powers and/or complete mastery over a certain radius. Krane also can only manipulate a certain amount of particles at a time, he can't simultaneously control every particle in the viscinity otherwise his quantum soul would breakdown depriving Krane of free will in which case Krane will immediately commit suicide due to an implanted suicidal urge that Krane made that can only be denied through the power of free will. Krane can only manipulate a hilariously tiny amount of particles at a time but he can do so infinitely and very fast. allowing him to alter his physical state near instantly. He can only manipulate enough mass to create an infinitely sustained explosion of a grenade. His true power comes from knowledge of very advanced technology using his ability to manipulate virtual particles to create any blueprint that Krane can think of from vehicles to nuclear bombs. But he needs to think to make it so the more complex the tech the longer it takes to make, a nuke is hard to make because the precise structure of refined plutonium or uranium has to be made with full comprehension. So generally Krane's preferred method of attack is simple tech, shooting lasers or creating antimatter to go boom. Now this is most certainly overpowered but it comes at the cost of thinking really hard and if you think too hard you will lose free will and quantum powers. Now his final trump card like Crypt's deep magic is creating a false vacuum collapse, a suicide move that guarantees the uncertain fate of anything within to whatever the true vacuum is which is most likely death literally destroying everything in a bubble expanding at lightspeed. He basically has no weaknesses in terms of abilities, his weakness is any level of space-time manipulation which can instantly KO him due with either expansion or contraction of the space he's in, basicllaly Krane has to prepare a lot to go to other planets otherwise the change in gravity would disrupt his quantum soul which is linked to free will. And just for comparisons sake let's say that Deep magic can harm Krane's quantum soul directly as well. Now keep in mind Krane's powers are his quantum soul which is tied to his mind, willpower, and free will and anything that affects the quantum soul which are basically just primordial forces like the cosmos or more primordial magic can harm the fragile quantum soul. So Krane is very paranoid about magic and more advanced tech because they literally pose an existential threat to him not a life or death threat Krane's powers and tech are just fine with that but the fact that oops we got 1.25 g's now or I'm gonna use this super-limited magic can literally threaten his free will plenty justifies Krane's OPness. 9.5/10, unlimited use powers, advanced tech, superweapons. Only balanced out by paranoia and fragility of quantum soul.
For pain - it could be interesting for people working with bone magic to use herbs and other extracts to numb pain in addition. It could lead to interesting links - for example, salicylic acid, a painkiller is derived from the bark of willow trees.
as someone who had a small piece of my ulna break off while snowboarding and being told i would not need surgery as the doctors said it would just reattach itself to the rest of the bone, i approve.
Thoughts: - not just management of pain, also management of infection. - Major histo-compatibility complex (mhc), the key the body uses to determine self vs. not-self, the thing that rejects organ implants, is also going to be an issue. - If humans steal bones from hominids, or bones, there will prion disease. - in chronicles of amber, the sons of Oberon walk the pattern or Logrus, but the humans access magic by walking the breaks in the broken copies of the pattern. This smells like that. - nice nod to Paul Atriedes and the Gom Jabbar.
i did something similar but with human nails, where basically nails are very magic conductive and so they are the best place to inscribe runes(the spells) on them and depending on your linage, you could even be born with them already inscribed but when a rune is in inscribed it cannot be removed except if you pull out your nail and grow a new one and there aren't any common materials that are conductive enough, so you would have to be very rich or have a healer friend. On top of that it's not always good to be born with runes pre inscribed because they can be really bad but you could also hit jackpot that way. Ahhh also criminals tend to kidnap and kill people for their nails so they can sell them to artificers so they can make their magical tools. all this and a shit ton more for a book+video game that am making which idk if it will even come out in the next 5 years.
yo this vid was actually good i was not expecting this bony magic thingi you came up with to be so interesting, i especialy love the way you use research in what you come up with so instead of it being some kind of fantasy thing that actualy dosn't make sense you combine it with sience and physics that could actuallly work up to a certain point. With precise manupulation of the dna code stuff like this could actualy be possible. Keep the good work up its super awesome👍
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But I always drink plenty of...malk?
"... Yew are a cripple Hairy."
".. A wat?"
"Yew are a cripple Hairy!"
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The hell goes on in your head 😂😂😂😂😂😂
There's MAGIC in my BONES
Iiiiiiii got this feelin yeah you know
Where I am losing all control
Cause there’s magic in my bones!
Ha love it!
"hmmmm, ahhh.. I can smell your bones from here" has a whole new meaning now (thanks Markiplier)
I can see the twist in the story where there's a life focused bone magic that exists, blood comes from the bones after all.
That is an inspiring idea! Love it.
Oooh! And for tree magic, roots actually seek out bones and will consume entire skeletons if given the chance
@@roberthanson5840 it would be nice to see a yin and yang type of situation where despite being on opposite end of spectrum they are still in same plane i.e, same spectrum.
Conversely, trees experience a form of death through the winter, shedding their leaves in autumn and only experiencing rebirth in the spring. There could absolutely be a form of tree magic that focuses on this "death", rather than the "life" that reappears in spring.
Gods, that's such a fitting theme.
Just as how in real life the increased understanding of biology has changed how we see health and disease and signs of them.
Bone? nice. Reminds me of the gold system that one person made
I remember something about that
Gold and Bone, I think you’re talking about
i love bones
Hey I know what your talking about. And all of this is very similar I agree
bones
This just made me remember a very rare condition called "stone man syndrome" where instead of repairing wounds with muscles they go through a process called "ossification" where everything that got wounded gets replaced with bone, effectively petrifying that body part.
And because your body is constantly suffering tiny amounts of damage and replacing dead cells, it doesn't matter if you avoid injury because you slowly turn to bone anyway.
It's apparently very painful and eventually fatal.
Med Tech here, I haven't looked at the disease, but I assume it's the calcification of muscle?
This would be a really OP kind of prophecy for a character afraid of pain. However the "cure" could be the reversal of calcification. That uses several proteins and hormones and minerals, specifically Vitamin D, Magnesium, Phosphorus, and K2 to remove the "bone."
Natto is a type of bean that carries I high amount of vitamin K2, so perhaps the cure is a bean from a forest magic user.
Idk, something to think about.
That would be horrifying
If you didn’t just straight up die from that, it’d actually be such a cool superpower.
"Now i shall smite you with every bone in my body"
*proceeds to literally use every bone in their body*
Ouch
Watch out for the pelvis my friend 😔 It's deadly I tell ya
krkkruch
oh god wait- (just came to mind/made it up when i read your comment but i still like it)
Bodily Curse: *Split*
you and your skeleton are pretty much the newest terminator, a skeleton that can act on its own, then the main "half" thats now flowing everchanging mass- able to take any shape imaginable (in this case more nercomany/necromorph/ just bodyhorror instead of >able to make a literal gun)
"Yield my flesh, to claim their bones."
PROJECT MOON MENTIONED!! RAAAHHHH!!!!
the horde is coming.
I hear the PM fans coming already.
Sleeper agents activate!!!!!!!!!
Nothing there, guys. Just a random comment
I remember another person that made a magic system that revolves around gold being plated and grown onto bones. I think I like this concept more, as the concept of a bone mage becoming more demented looking the more powerful they are as they continue to merge more bones into their body is awesome. Boneling battles would be interesting as with the tree magic system you are incentivized to play carefully and wait for defensive magic like oak magic to wear off, while with bonelings, they would jump into close quarters with enhanced physicality and try to rip and tear the power off of the other user.
That's exactly right! It can turn into a pretty thrilling cat-and-mouse kind of fight -- plus those dynamics shift based on the seasons and the types of trees/bones available.
Magic Madness and Sadness.
Oooooohhh, Bone Magic. So Scaaaary~~~. What are you gonna do? Break my back?
*Proceeds to give Scoliosis*
as someone with scoliosis who also broke their back, this is hilarious
What an interesting approach to world building! I am a folklore enthusiast and esoteric practitioner. I don't know if you came across the certain stories during your research, but your concept of bone magic here carries a lot of similarities to quite a few ritualistic practices across the world. In many parts of Asia, hardcore esoteric practitioners will always have certain bones in their collection as they belief that certain bones from animals and human carry very specific energy which can be directed towards specific goals. I've come across a tribe in East Timor whose warriors put crocodile tail bone in their mouths to grant them physical prowess. Some would powder teeth of their previously defeated enemies and smear it along their spines to temporarily possess abilities of deceased enemy during fights. Others claim to be able to inflict burn damage, blinding the eyes, cause mass confusion, grant temporary inhuman strength, poison the wind or even call upon lightning with their prized bone with their bone amulets. Some of these magic bones are consumable one-time things, while others are more permanent talismans. All magic bones with special powers have undergone certain rituals to awaken the inherent powers in them. Sounds fantastical, yet such practices are still present in this modern age.
Many parts of Asia huh? Can you make a list of the peoples and locations associated with each bone usage? How many practices are similar? Unique? Are there more instances of bone collection found outside of Asia?
@@BigToody Most certainly. The following is a general overview of one example of bone magic relative to their geographical location:
1. Warriors of the Igorot people in the Philippines have "Agimat", charms made of metal, plant materials and bones carefully selected from different animals believed to grant a range of qualities to enhance or protect the owner during conflicts. Activation of the Agimat powers often include calling out the name of spirit residing in the charm.
2. The Dayak Bidayuh people in Borneo island in Indonesia use a lot of magic bones in their traditional attires and weapons. These animal and human bones bestow different abilities like being able to move unseen, move extremely fast, jump abnormally high, etc.
3. Among the Shugendo practitioners in Japan, some of their rituals involve collecting bones during their pilgrimage in the mountains. These bones are often used as intermediary to channel powers between the mountain gods, animal spirits and the practitioners when they need to foretell the future or heal ailments.
4. The Bomoh are traditional esoteric practitioners of Malaysia. While most conservative Bomoh nowadays veer towards healing and protection with heavy use of Islamic recitations, the more tribal ones still use bones from animals to cast curses that cause sickness and misfortune towards the target. Rituals to awaken powers of the bones including fasting during auspicious days, asking malevolent spirits to take residence inside the bones and recitation of certain spells for hundreds of times to charge the bones.
5. The Saisyiyat people of Northern Taiwan hold great reference to objects known as Alima and Kudum, which refer to ancestral heirlooms. They consist of various things from metals, to wood and a lot of bones. These objects are heavily venerated as they hold significant influence over the fortune of a person, family or even clans. Alima and Kudum need to be "fed" with rice wine, blood, milk or other substances based on what the resident power/spirits like. Their function range from healing and protection, to physical prowess and spiritual transformation.
These are some of what I've personally come across. Most of the practices carries a lot similarities between them, but I personally found the Japanese Shugendo and the East Timorese to be very unique, as in nobody else do it they way they do. I've heard of that traditional magical customs in Africa involve heavy use of bones as well, but I am yet to witness it in person.
@user-bc9cr7gj5z Wow, what a wealth of knowledge you've just shared. So grateful to have access to all this information to further expand my research -- sometime later this year I'm sure it'll all play into Bone Magic Part 2.
I've done some research into cultural /spiritual uses of bone (but not as much as you). I live in Borneo at the moment -- some Dayak tribes here used to headhunt to collect skulls. They believed the practice forced the soul of the dead to protect their homes.
SO MUCH great world-building potential out in the ACTUAL world.
@@hadrianpollardI kind of like stuff that involve the “raw” elements of the human condition, like using blood as fuel for magic, as an example.
Or for rituals, too.
Like anything that’s a sort of “take and give” system.
Genuine question, are there things like people using bones for weapons, like using their bones as weapons, or even making their body ten times faster by making their bones more brittle, as an example.
@@hadrianpollard Exactly. You can really take concepts from all scientific or even math-related fields and include them in the world building process. (Like taking cell theory or even string theory and coming up with something from that. What I did was I made string theory a magic system where Resonators can manipulate the very fabric of reality)
the origin is so poetic
Thank you!
This man needs to become a fantasy phenom
This Power System is very cool, and has potential for very interesting Combat scenes.
I wonder if you have seen Kimimaro in his fight against Naruto, Rocklee and Gaara( you can find it on youtube ).
Kimimaro also uses Bones to Fight in Cool ways.
I had forgotten about that! Some old school Naruto.
That's what first came to my mind, that jutsu was raw
I made a character who's named Revenna. Her thing is that she haarnesses the power of death through using souls and dead bodies. She can turn into those people and even being them back if they have unfinished business in life. She's, obviously, not a good guy, probably my most evil character. I could go on and on about more of her character, but that'd be too long for most people to read.
I find your magic system to be really cool, it's super Epic! I might do my own on bones too! It's so cool how you do research too, that's what makes the best systems.
I love this idea. When I first heard it and saw the imagery of bones jutting out of the body, my mind oddly went to puppets, as the skeleton is the rigging of the body, it gives itself limits. I thought that with enough power and malice, someone evil may use bone magic to manipulate another. With 4 thin bones impaled perpendicular to each other at the wrists, two on each wrist, and threads or possibly even, tendons, tying them together, a user of bone magic could puppeteer someone whose will is not strong enough to overcome the influences of bone magic. It was just an idea but I hope you like it and maybe even build off of it in away that better fits your story.
Now you need mushroom magic for all the kingdoms of life (plants, animals and fungi)
The spine hanging from someone's back triggered an old memory of a Hulk comic where he gets sent to some other world or time and gets a spine creature attached to him at the base of his neck that is sapient and forms some sort of symbiosis. It just activated that in my brain i dunno. This is fuckin cool my guy.
Cheers!
Why is this so interesting? I would never think trees and bones would go together so well.
Cheers!
This is such an interesting concept along with tree magic. You really thought it out quite bit and i love when writers or artists put so much work and passion into their creations.
Lately ive been finding quite a bit of those really original and unique ideas over the internet, the other noteworthy one would be plant-based madieval mecha drawn by Treelancer and i recomend checking out his channel to everyone who found this video interesting.
Plant-based medieval mecha?? That's insane and brilliant. I'll be checking that out.
There was a video that was a short made by PIrateSoftware that someone from his chat talked about skelepathy, where essentially skeletons, the animated kind, could find you because your bones could telepathically speak to them from a distance from inside you. This video made me think of it as a type of bone magic lol
That is cool
good shit, make more of these man, never have i been actually be interested in a channel like this before.
You got it
Bones having the same general function, regardless of what species they originate from has an interesting implication. This could allow some unique or exotic bones to have very interesting magical applications. The two obvious examples I can think of our deer antlers and elephant tusks.
But there are even stranger bones. After seeing this video, I did a quick Google search and found stingrays. Their skeleton is insane.
That is incredible skeleton, wow. Will have to show up somewhere in the series.
This is supremely cool! I am glad I have discovered a fellow worldbuilder. And your magic system guide would be a phenomenal asset to use. Thank you sooo much
Glad to be along the ride with you!
The Karambit sounds like a great option for bone magic users, but another good option would be the Bagh Nakh from india. As it is an concealable weapon designed to slice through muscle and skin.
It might not let them get as deep as an Karambit. But it would be great for plucking bones that are close to the skin without a thick layer of muscle or fat to protect them.
On that note, if one had to fight regularly fight against bone magic users that can pull bones from living prey. Than it would be advantageous to have a body like a heavy weight roman gladiator. With thick muscles from training paired with a decent layer of fat from an oat, or barley based diet. With Barley being the more effective of the two.
It might not be enough to completely avoid having your bones yanked. But I imagine that it would be harder to find and take bones from people when they are well fed during times of plenty.
And it would be easier to find and locate bones to pluck during famines, or economic down turns. When people will have less fat or muscle on them. And their bones will be closer to the surface.
Wow, I had never seen a bagh nakh before, that's an awesome weapon that TOTALLY fits with boneling powers/culture. I appreciate the share!
Also, great point about the muscle mass. Though I imagine the best bet is to avoid close range as much as possible.
Strangely the first thought I had when you mentioned harvesting human bones was the idea that humans weren’t THAT beefy as animals go. Then my brain made the leap “but what if binding like to like let you have MORE BONES.” So it would make them far more monstrous physically because they could pack on layers upon layers of human bones to become incredibly powerful. That’s just where my mind went, though.
I also love the idea of putting one aspect in life especially scientifically the broaden it with a magical system
I just stumbled upon this video and it inspired me to have a train of thought. I'll share my initial thoughts here-
Our protagonist, Riak is a hybrid, born from the forbidden love of a tree magic user and a boneling. His parents were killed due to this but they were successful in hiding away Riak in a remote village. Due to having both magic system present in his body, Riak experienced a torturous childhood. Not knowing his powers well, He couldn't control the powers. Resulting in the bone magic giving him extreme pain while tree magic held his life by a thread. The clash of two opposing powers would result in seizures. The villagers didn't know about magic, thus making them fearful of Riak. But Riak was good natured. When he didn't have seizures, he'd help out anyone he could, making him beloved by the village. But their fear didn't go away just because he was good natured. Riak, not wanting to scare the villagers, often headed to the forest when he sensed his condition worsening. One one such day while he was experiencing a seizure, a particularly life-threatening one, he encountered a mage. The mage sensed the irregularity in him and helped to stabilize his condition. Later when he learned Riak's condition he understood what was wrong with him. Feeling sorry for the young man as well as being intrigued by this unique phenomena, he invited Riak to accompany him on his journey. This journey will go on to foretell how Riak mastered his powers, becoming one of the if not THE most powerful mage in history
this is very interesting stuff! great work man
Much appreciated!
Bone and Tree Magic reminds me so much of Shikotsumyaku and Wood Release.
Hadn't even thought of it until the comments! Man, Naruto has a magic system for everything.
@@hadrianpollard always bet on ninja magic
Great video. I love the contast and thematic differences between the tree-based and bone-based systems!
Thank you, Jed! Love your work
Nice, i love all of it, with enough thoughts you can do so much with the idea. I remember in Shadow and Bone they used acient stag antlers and connected them with main characters skin to amplify her power.
I was too late commenting on Shikotsumyaku, but the time period part of your video gave me a few ideas for a power system that I've been working on.
RATTLE 'EM BOYS
Very interesting, especially since I’ve had a similar idea involving bones and trees.
Essentially, there were these certain trees that, when the bark was in contact with live bones (usually through biting) would give the person a sort of spell or effect. This would then be shot out through the bones (think of it as electricity surging through a wire) and casted as a spell. However, the last bone the magic flowed through would temporarily dissolve, which would reform a minute or so later. This means a careful cast may only leave a single finger bone dissolved, while an unrefined cast could dissolve a bone protecting an organ, leaving the organ unprotected.
Anyway, very good video!
Intense! I love magic systems with a serious cost. Reminds me of Wheel of Time, but instead of losing your mind you lose your body. I wonder if making the cost more permanent could add more drama and potency to the use of the magic? In other words, you're not casting willy-nilly cause pretty soon you'll be disintegrating into nothing.
As a health student playing dnd anatomy never was better
This sounds like a fun dnd character to play as
That's such a cool system! I'm going to steal it! 😈😈
I know your a fantasy author but you have a wonderful way of blending reality or reality of the magickal world and fantasy. As a occultist I find this refreshing!✨Thank you for sharing your artistic worlds! Oh and there is a spiritual practice called bone breathing and of course there is a practice called necromancy.
A few people pointed this out to me, and it was a fun watch - nice work, and best of luck with your project!
Thank you very much! And same to you, very excited about more Gold and Bone :)
as someone also working on a book, I too have incorporated and bone-like manipulation into the story. I am looking forward to seeing how both of our stories will play out once they're finished.
Cheers, let me know when yours is done!
I wanna do this in dnd but make some tweaks, like let’s say you insert leg bones in your leg, then of course you’d have advantage in running, jumping, and kicking, but let’s say you use chameleon bones, then you could start to use camouflage, but to make it fair I think you’d have to use a lot of chameleon bones, and I think it would be fair because of the size difference, while let’s say you take a ram, you take the skull as a helmet but since it’s a ram you can head but with tremendous force, but let’s say you put a rams bones in your legs, you can walk and fight on any surface. I think the two systems are amazing for story righting and also using a creative system in dnd, I know that might not what you was going for but it’s still amazing concepts to change things up of how people think.
Dude this is fantastic I got images of wizards breaking their own bones for power and not feeling the pain. As well as armor made of different animals bones decorating a boneling like a crocodile jaw connected to the rest of a dog skull.
Also an obvious weakness is a bonelings spine so breaking their spine during or even after combat would be extremely brutal and taboo practice. Following along with that thought seeing a bonelings spine from them turn their back to you as a major sign of trust or shows they view you as not a threat.
So many cool ideas for fights keep it up!
Such a great way to build culture out of the use of the spine magic. Awesome
This is so similar to the magic system I'm working on! Yours is so cool and so raw I can just imagine what the most powerful bone mage would look like haha. Very inspiring!
Good luck with yours!
Imagine a fighter who collects animal teeth and paw bones (Claws). They could wear a messed-up form of dentures and gain a crazy biting fighting style, maybe even increased grip strength. Amazing system 100 % I will keep your thought process in mind when writing. Thx
Some niche users that focus on a specific bone would be super cool too tbh. Like a person, that focuses on the small bone we have in our ears and harvest them and shoots them lika a projectile or smth. Or knee caps as mine blades or the end of the spine to create a tail
Totally
A boneling barbarian whose entire body is encased in bone armor that he created by breaking every bone in his body multiple times, just to let them heal stronger.
This is the most interesting magic system ive ever come across
how do they clean the bones?
do bonelings like eating meat and do tree people like eating vegetables. my show has a race of people that colt the energy of what they eat and they are kinda similar to your ideas and i think it’s really cool. because of their philology they can’t go back to eating meat after consuming plants so in your shows case would bonelings begin to develop more animalistic traits that would allow them to harvest bones (off the top of my head a tiger like tongue to help them scrape the meat off) and conversely would the tree people gain traits that would be advantageous to gaining sunlight such as not liking clothes or something
^^ That is a very cool idea, is it for a book? A game?
As of now, there is an inclination toward hunting in bonelings and toward gathering in the treelings. Bonelings have creature companions called bone-pickers that help clean the bones, but I love this idea of physiological changes that would help them prep bones for magic. And to become more animalistic or plant like the deeper you go in bone/tree magic... that's awesome. Puts a new meaning to the phrase "you are what you eat" huh?
Thanks for sharing!
@@hadrianpollard it’s gonna be an anime, i appreciate your feedback and know that i’ll be watching
This would make a great video game or show tbh !
Karambits being made first as a harvesting tool makes this way cooler like using the weapon made to harvest plants to murder and then harvest the bones from whatever you kill sound verry cool
Interesting ideas 🤝
Thank you! Cheers!
I love hearing about other people’s magic systems because it gives me ideas for one that I am making for a minecraft based dnd campaign…
I will be using Minecraft to let the players build the lore and society, while being limited by the rules of how the world works.
Good luck with your system!
Sans: you're such a funny (bone) guy, you thought all this to the skull
First video ive seen of you so im not sure if theres a rule about only accessing one or the other magic, but honestly this whole life and death theme is awesome either way. Though i love the concept of yin and yang and balance because its so prevalent in cultures all over and it would amaze me if you could incorporate something like that into the world your building. Like how in star wars there is the jedi and the sith but force practitioners started out trying to keep both the sides in balance within themselves and hey you could even use some mechanic that makes it hard for "modern day mages" to even realize using both is possible and have that cemented into the culture of magic practice in your world. Add in some deep grudges between the flora and fauna factions and it would essentially be a one in a billion chances of finding someone who practices both. Also another person said something about a branch of bone magic focused on life because of blood being so tied to life itself and i put my own two cents in saying mushrooms are very closely tied with death (like have you seen the mushrooms that turn ants into literal zombies?) and incorperating all that throughout a story would add so much mystery and flavor to borh the magic and story. Idk im excited to see what happens but id be ecstatic if i see any of this incorporated into your story!
I gotta say, this gives a lot of ideas to just think about
weird coincidence but I had written a character years ago who had two types of magic and they happened to be tree magic and bone magic. His tree magic was fueled by selflessness and his desire to protect others, and his bone magic was fueled by selfishness and rage. Each type of magic had its own weaknesses and strengths and only by discovering himself and finding balance within himself would he finally be able to wield both and realize his potential. It's interesting to see another person's take on similar stuff like this
Great minds think alike!
This is perfect a necromancy lore
5:33 I've explored something similar to this myself actually, and it's something I've come to refer to as: The Cannibal Armory. Though this is more used on adversaries as a last resort. And remember, cannibalism isn't simply the act of consuming/eating an individual of the same species, but the utilization of the body/body parts as a whole.
We've cannibalized materials from our house when we were remodeling it, haha. Glad to connect to another bone magic creator!
I feel like the opposite of each of these extremes should also be used as forbidden arts.
Afterall, the strongest wood would be dried dead wood, and the strongest bones are in the living.
Like ying yang, good in bad and bad in good, black in white and white in black.
The way this would work is with bones, you simply draw strength from your own bones, not hurting you as it is a part of you, and since the bones are still living they would constantly regenerate.
For the trees, you must prepare it by killing and drying it by whatever means used, and instead of drawing out the trees characteristics, you just get improved durability and strength.
just went looking for why gold would be the best for conductivity based magic and got my answer because this video made me go look for it so thank you. also I'm just in from my first 5km in AGES and my legs were heavy and sore. Where I'd usually let that interrupt my progress and it would make me stop, I acknowledged the pain and thought about it and I was able top push on. I never really di this before but for some reason today I did and it worked. THEN I come back and you confirm this in this video, so ill be doing it a lot more going forward so thank you for that too.
What serendipity! Glad you're getting out there, running, and paingazing your way through it!
This is such a cool concept, I can already thing of tons of cool ways to expound upon it🤩. Maybe the longer a bone is left in the more the qualities if the creature it came from will present themselves. For example, grafting bones from a bears paw onto yours would cause your arms to grow larger and your nails would turn into claws in the early stages, but as it progresses your arms will become hairy and you'll loose mobility in your thumb as it starts to become a bear paw. Almost like you're stoking the embers of life essence left in the bones with your own spirit. Over time they become harder to separate and the more skilled the boneling the longer they can linger in the stages where they have the greatest benefit with the least downsides. This could be a great way to emphasize how scary a boneling that uses human bones can be. They can use the bones of people to gleam memories and learn their secrets, or they can take bones from a living person, or maybe give them bones to control them like a thrall. He could firm a cult around gum that tries to graft his bones onto magic users with great potential to resurrect him with more power, like orochimaru trying to take itachi and sasuke's body. Really great system, I gotta go watch the tree magic vid now🏃♂️
Hadrian, I really want to nkow your work. This video is awesome and your idea it is too. Congrats to you for your book. Soon I want to read it. Cheers from Brasil
Thank you! I look forward to sharing with you, saúde!
"talked to bone specialists like chiropractors and osteopaths" LMAO what a wild ride that sentence was
When I heard about bone magic, I immediately thought about Kimimaro from Naruto. It's interesting how your system is kind of the opposite, shoving others' bones into you, instead of your overgrown bones into other people
Fantastic
that sounds like an incredible system
Thank you!
i would definitely use this if i ever were an author, youre awesome!
Thank you!
What happens if a boneling gets access to a fossilized dinosaur bone?
Death
Fossilized dinosaur bones are stone, so probably nothing.
@@__T.O.G.yeah and bones out of the body are literally death so ....
fossils are just stone
Yeah, it's gotta be the fresh stuff made of bone cells. Cool idea though!
This was fun to hear about. IRL there are links to different cultures and mythologic magic around bones as well so bone magic is a pretty sensible thing to base a magic system around as well. Im always interested in peoples ideas for new kinds of magic or new ways someone uses magic.
I'm excited to do more research into culture
Bones, you're just turning skeletons into weaponry,gear,minions and more
Pretty interesting 💛
This is my first video of yours and I know I'm two weeks late but, I agree that's a dope new set up!
Thanks!
feels like some sort of medieval cyberpunk
Damn I came up with this concept like 8 years ago. Good stuff
great minds!
We're being bad to the bone with this one 🔥🔥🔥
for some reason this makes me want to see whether you could "push this system to its limits through advanced knowledge" (ie - careful placement of harvested bones in areas that they cannot be placed through traditional methods]
Very clever
I immediately thought of trying to create bone nails and sutures so one could better affix bones to their body without fully compromising the flesh in the methods that jabbing or sheathing the crudely would do.
Nothing quite so scary as the patient warrior that has learned efficiency
My fursona is a natural born Ostiomancer in his story. He manipulates bone at will. He also couples this with Necromancy. This video is an interesting perspective on such magic.
My fursona embedded his consciousness into the quantum field giving him science based powers. On a scale of 1 to 10 (street level to planet level) how powerful would your necromancy and ostiomancy be?
@Krane5328 Crypt's Necromancy is highly advanced. He can ressurect an entire warzone just by standing in it. If he wills it, they rise. The only issue is that when he raises someone, there's an RNG effect that comes into play. The person or people he ressurects may come back as themselves, or come back as a mindless thrall, whose only purpose is to take orders.
However, there's also a chance that they may even ascend beyond what they were in life. They may become a shade, a wraith, a wendigo, a death knight, or even a lichking. I could list more, but over the years, he's accrued and invented vast amounts of different undead to suit all sorts of needs and purposes. He doesn't get to decide what happens during ressurection, and thus, he assigns his units carefully based on their power and skill set. Also, if the task is difficult enough, he won't even waste units. He'd just handle it himself to preserve his armies. After all, what's a necromancer without his legion?
As far as his Ostiomancy goes, he can shape, malform, reform, bend, twist, stretch, contort, shatter, extend, mend, and compress bone in various matters, shapes, and sizes. Pretty much, if he can imagine a shape, he can form bone into said shape.
With a flick of his wrist, he can turn a person's body into a reverse iron maiden, as their rib cage impales themselves from the inside out.
He can thicken and harden your skeletal system to become more carapace like in nature to withstand higher forms of damage. He can repair broken or even shattered bones from mere fragments at the cost of the repaired bone becoming more fragile (unless he has more bone material to apply) mere breaks or fractures are easily repaired without much consequence.
He can mend his own skeletal system quite easily, reshape it to fit his own needs, and can even focus ostiomancy entirely on himself to allow him to levitate and fly. He can grant others with this ability so long as he maintains focus on these individuals.
HOWEVER, if you were expecting him to be able to fight against beings who manipulate space and time, no, he's not up to that level. Don't get me wrong, he's goku levels of strong, he's naruto levels of fast, but he's not fast enough, nor is he strong enough. He just can't stack up to that yet.
He does have deep magic, though. A magical substance that, when one comes into physical contact, becomes heavy and dense. The longer one is exposed to it, the heavier and more dense they become. This status effect is known as "affliction."
He can project this magic in many forms. He can coat items in it, he can wield it as a weapon, lash out with it as a force wave, project it in various AOE like formations, condense and compact things, bend and reshape objects with it, can use it as a shield to effectively block incoming projectiles, reshape them into shards of deep magic, and send them back, and later on in his story can even use deep magic to open portals within his own plane of exsistance.
The biggest issue with deep magic for him is that there's only ever a limited amount of it. Once it's gone, it's gone. He has a process he goes through called "consumption" that allows him to break items or areas down to make more deep magic, but he needs vast amounts of surface area in order to recoup what was lost. And once something is broken down and consumed into deep magic, it's gone forever.
His deep magic also dissipates when it comes in contact with the sun. This is also relative to his own fatal weakness to the sun. Exposure to the sun will dissipate his deep magic immediately. The sun may also char his bones if he's not careful. He makes avoiding the sun his top priority at all times, and is one of many reasons why he will never stack up against beings who manipulate space and time.
@@Krane5328 sorry for the essay. Short answer, I'd put Crypt at a 7, possibly an 8.
@@CryptTheNecromancer Don't worry I find your essay engaging and intersting.
Krane's consciousness and free will is tied to the quantum realm and it's general randomness. He can utilize his will to manipulate the randomness of quantum mechanics to use it a "magic".
Krane can easily be in multiple places at once, he can become incorporeal, teleport, have a 6th sense, connect objects, and manipulate matter. He can do all sorts of insane stuff by manifesting the weirdness of quantum physics on a large scale. But if it was just this Krane would be a literal science-based god. His mind is connected to the quantum realm but it still has not transcended the computational power of his brain. No matter how much math Krane knows he has to be able to visualize things and understand them intuitively to actually properly use his powers, so no higher dimensional powers and/or complete mastery over a certain radius. Krane also can only manipulate a certain amount of particles at a time, he can't simultaneously control every particle in the viscinity otherwise his quantum soul would breakdown depriving Krane of free will in which case Krane will immediately commit suicide due to an implanted suicidal urge that Krane made that can only be denied through the power of free will.
Krane can only manipulate a hilariously tiny amount of particles at a time but he can do so infinitely and very fast. allowing him to alter his physical state near instantly. He can only manipulate enough mass to create an infinitely sustained explosion of a grenade. His true power comes from knowledge of very advanced technology using his ability to manipulate virtual particles to create any blueprint that Krane can think of from vehicles to nuclear bombs. But he needs to think to make it so the more complex the tech the longer it takes to make, a nuke is hard to make because the precise structure of refined plutonium or uranium has to be made with full comprehension. So generally Krane's preferred method of attack is simple tech, shooting lasers or creating antimatter to go boom. Now this is most certainly overpowered but it comes at the cost of thinking really hard and if you think too hard you will lose free will and quantum powers.
Now his final trump card like Crypt's deep magic is creating a false vacuum collapse, a suicide move that guarantees the uncertain fate of anything within to whatever the true vacuum is which is most likely death literally destroying everything in a bubble expanding at lightspeed.
He basically has no weaknesses in terms of abilities, his weakness is any level of space-time manipulation which can instantly KO him due with either expansion or contraction of the space he's in, basicllaly Krane has to prepare a lot to go to other planets otherwise the change in gravity would disrupt his quantum soul which is linked to free will. And just for comparisons sake let's say that Deep magic can harm Krane's quantum soul directly as well. Now keep in mind Krane's powers are his quantum soul which is tied to his mind, willpower, and free will and anything that affects the quantum soul which are basically just primordial forces like the cosmos or more primordial magic can harm the fragile quantum soul. So Krane is very paranoid about magic and more advanced tech because they literally pose an existential threat to him not a life or death threat Krane's powers and tech are just fine with that but the fact that oops we got 1.25 g's now or I'm gonna use this super-limited magic can literally threaten his free will plenty justifies Krane's OPness.
9.5/10, unlimited use powers, advanced tech, superweapons. Only balanced out by paranoia and fragility of quantum soul.
Good god why are the best ideas so underrated
because they take someone elses answer for the questions that he asks...which ofcorse have become mainstream and overrated by now...
Awesome!
For pain - it could be interesting for people working with bone magic to use herbs and other extracts to numb pain in addition. It could lead to interesting links - for example, salicylic acid, a painkiller is derived from the bark of willow trees.
Thanks for the tip!
this is incredible 😍 im seeing so many amazing worldbuilding projects on youtube lately it's so inspiring
Thanks so much!
as someone who had a small piece of my ulna break off while snowboarding and being told i would not need surgery as the doctors said it would just reattach itself to the rest of the bone, i approve.
"...got this feelin' in my bones"
Thoughts:
- not just management of pain, also management of infection.
- Major histo-compatibility complex (mhc), the key the body uses to determine self vs. not-self, the thing that rejects organ implants, is also going to be an issue.
- If humans steal bones from hominids, or bones, there will prion disease.
- in chronicles of amber, the sons of Oberon walk the pattern or Logrus, but the humans access magic by walking the breaks in the broken copies of the pattern. This smells like that.
- nice nod to Paul Atriedes and the Gom Jabbar.
this is the most unique video I has ever come across, props to this guy. keep it up
Appreciate it!
im here waiting for gameplay only for it to be a book. Boy was this a ride.
Video game adaptation later?
Very Inquisitor
Gotta love Mistborn
You know now that I think about it, I've seen tons of series that incorporate blood as a power system but very little if none about bones.
That's what I noticed!
cool shit dude, very compelling
I had something pretty similar, but the characters have silver that corrodes part of their bone. (Silver in this world is highly magical)
In the words of a VERY insane barbarian from Oblivion's Shivering Isles DLC:
"I don't believe in magic. But I do believe in BONES"
i did something similar but with human nails, where basically nails are very magic conductive and so they are the best place to inscribe runes(the spells) on them and depending on your linage, you could even be born with them already inscribed but when a rune is in inscribed it cannot be removed except if you pull out your nail and grow a new one and there aren't any common materials that are conductive enough, so you would have to be very rich or have a healer friend. On top of that it's not always good to be born with runes pre inscribed because they can be really bad but you could also hit jackpot that way. Ahhh also criminals tend to kidnap and kill people for their nails so they can sell them to artificers so they can make their magical tools. all this and a shit ton more for a book+video game that am making which idk if it will even come out in the next 5 years.
Very cool, having to remove your own nails in gnarly
Bone specialists like... chiropractors?
I think you got your bone specialists and magic specialists mixed up.
yo this vid was actually good i was not expecting this bony magic thingi you came up with to be so interesting, i especialy love the way you use research in what you come up with so instead of it being some kind of fantasy thing that actualy dosn't make sense you combine it with sience and physics that could actuallly work up to a certain point. With precise manupulation of the dna code stuff like this could actualy be possible. Keep the good work up its super awesome👍
Thank you!
U should make more it caught so much interest ❤🎉
Thank you!
"I CAST OSTEOPOROSIS ON THEE!!!"
"NOW YOUR MAGIC IS GREATLY HINDERED!!!"
I'm here for the forbidden bone magic
the strongest bone mages being the frogs that break their legs to make bone claws.
3:25 meanwhile that one guy with dino fossil