When Judges Turn Political: Lawyers Sibal, Arora, Bhushan and Dave Discuss a Malaise of Our Times

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  • Опубліковано 18 бер 2024
  • In this episode of Central Hall, Kapil Sibal discusses with a panel of leading independent-minded lawyers the problem of sitting judges developing political links. Recently, Justice Abhijit Gangopadhyay quit the Calcutta High Court and joined the Bharatiya Janata Party. While on the bench too, his judgments, obiter and interviews generated controversy. How should the legal community respond in such cases? And is it ever possible to insulate the judiciary from politics? Listen in to Sibal’s conversation with Meenakshi Arora, Prashant Bhushan and Dushyant Dave.
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  • @openaisg
    @openaisg 2 місяці тому +124

    Gentleman's argument! Amazing! Everyone MUST watch.

  • @thambinelloore7795
    @thambinelloore7795 2 місяці тому +65

    Have weekly minimum one session like this . Very eye opening.

    • @thambinelloore7795
      @thambinelloore7795 2 місяці тому

      @suriyhaprakhas356
      Loose sirikkathu paru 😢😢

    • @nitin1240
      @nitin1240 2 місяці тому

      ​@suriyhaprakhas356
      Not only frustrated, despite being sold-out, Deep State Stooges they are wondering about _WHY_ Soros's might is not working, that's why they are frustrated. 🤣🤣

  • @jacobcheriyan
    @jacobcheriyan 2 місяці тому +35

    Having got used to godi media for a long time, this conversation is so refreshing. They are able to speak freely and express differences respectfully.
    Differ with Bhushan on unfounded fear. Hope he remembers Justice Loya.

    • @agnescraig2912
      @agnescraig2912 2 місяці тому +2

      Yes but I agree with Bhushan otherwise we will become another Iran Russia China. As Dushant mentioned someone has to pay a price for Honesty.

  • @badrulduja1131
    @badrulduja1131 2 місяці тому +61

    Best Panel of Legal Minds

  • @sheelamahar5711
    @sheelamahar5711 2 місяці тому +53

    Thanks for bringing brilliant minds on this platform. Carry on Mr. Kapil 👌👏👏

  • @annammapt6991
    @annammapt6991 2 місяці тому +56

    The finest minds of the legal profession.It is a treat listening to them.

  • @anjanamalhotra7593
    @anjanamalhotra7593 2 місяці тому +36

    Very Informative discussion Thank you 🙏🏻

    • @PraakashRanjann
      @PraakashRanjann 2 місяці тому

      Seeing them,I can understand how India was ruled by foreigners for 1000yrs

  • @vinodparmar2015
    @vinodparmar2015 2 місяці тому +49

    Wonderful ! Three Legends on one platform!

  • @user-nk8ey3vz7f
    @user-nk8ey3vz7f 2 місяці тому +27

    Injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere.

  • @pbghosh5305
    @pbghosh5305 2 місяці тому +25

    Wonderful panel🎉 regards.🙏

  • @moni837
    @moni837 2 місяці тому +10

    We need more courageous lawyers and judges. Hope these conversations are seen by other senior judges and lawyers including the Chief Justices of States.

  • @openaisg
    @openaisg 2 місяці тому +10

    Watch from 14:30 to 17:01 - Real gentleman's -- how respectfully disagree and come to the logical conclusion of the argument. Hats off!

  • @tauseefahmad87
    @tauseefahmad87 2 місяці тому +20

    Masterpiece

  • @ThunderLightStrikes
    @ThunderLightStrikes 2 місяці тому +12

    I am learning what learned discussion looks like. Thank you, Sibal shahb

  • @ayushpathak9963
    @ayushpathak9963 2 місяці тому +15

    The wire ko aabhar dil se , is show ko host kerne ke liye

  • @salmansharieff3261
    @salmansharieff3261 2 місяці тому +14

    All are legends...... dignified.....lovable and best humans.

  • @bokatoyeptho6508
    @bokatoyeptho6508 2 місяці тому +14

    Very knowledgeable and informative discussion.🙏🙏🙏

  • @zaphbrox8239
    @zaphbrox8239 2 місяці тому +15

    Ms. Arora hit the nail on the head when she talked about character building. Schools used to teach students about morals, obeying, respect and the importance of the law, in addition to fairness to our fellow beings. Somewhere we seem to have lost our path and are following a blind urge to make or save money at all costs, with the result that we as a civil society give less importance to rules, laws and even our fellow beings, shunning all notions of fairness. I think our "education" system has completely failed us, and we are seeing the results, where "might is right" and everything else be dam ned.

    • @usmanrandera205
      @usmanrandera205 2 місяці тому

      Yes, you are right.

    • @divyaborkar7803
      @divyaborkar7803 Місяць тому

      Very nicely put

    • @zubeidakalathumpadikkal9503
      @zubeidakalathumpadikkal9503 13 годин тому

      More than anything, the past ten years of the bjp in power has been singularly responsible for bringing down the level of morality in people by their unjust actions !

  • @v.prashanth
    @v.prashanth 2 місяці тому +16

    only episodes i wait for nowadays.

  • @anjivkumarsrivastava8853
    @anjivkumarsrivastava8853 2 місяці тому +8

    Very good and balanced discussion. The message is very positive and solution oriented. This discussion should be forwarded to the SC judges.

    • @agnescraig2912
      @agnescraig2912 2 місяці тому

      I also happen to agree with Prashant Bhusan. This psychological fear of repercussions like demotion must be avoided as the public are in support. As Prashant pointed out he continues in his path to the Truth and the Constitution. If the named judges did not achieve success in the careers , a personal altruistic success surely trumps that.

  • @justflow1964
    @justflow1964 2 місяці тому +11

    What an educative talk, thank you the Wire

  • @Srichand_23
    @Srichand_23 2 місяці тому +13

    This country will live grateful to these people who are blowing the whistle when things are going wrong . I respect their courage and their attitude in sailing against the tide.

  • @naraharinaik3777
    @naraharinaik3777 2 місяці тому +10

    Very good discussion.

  • @UjjwalKumar_234
    @UjjwalKumar_234 2 місяці тому +5

    Thanks to the participants and The Wire for bringing such nice discussions.

  • @swapnilkadu639
    @swapnilkadu639 Місяць тому +2

    Thank you team WIRE for such informative and educative talk... Such productive dialogues and discussion s are very important for healthy democracy.

  • @jayanmbalan7607
    @jayanmbalan7607 2 місяці тому +3

    Enlightening. Dignified panel. Love, respect and regards from Kerala ❤

  • @drajayatri
    @drajayatri 2 місяці тому +4

    A very thought provocating discussion.Thanks you all.
    It's a pleasure to see Kapil Sibbal in a different role 😊

  • @AnilKumar-iq6tz
    @AnilKumar-iq6tz 2 місяці тому +4

    Very important discussion for Indian democracy and I think we should all know for all Indian citizens.

  • @vishaalbhatnagar3924
    @vishaalbhatnagar3924 2 місяці тому +3

    Very important conversation. Needs to be shared and discussed widely in high schools and colleges.

  • @adamabdool5959
    @adamabdool5959 Місяць тому

    Honest, dedicated and committed people. It was so refreshing listening to them.

  • @kulbhushanarya277
    @kulbhushanarya277 2 місяці тому +3

    Brilliant discussion and pleasure having such a amazing minds.

  • @Nirkan88
    @Nirkan88 2 місяці тому +7

    Great conversation.

  • @kalyansinghal5557
    @kalyansinghal5557 2 місяці тому +10

    Ask these superbright folks why so many poor people are in our jails because they cannot afford the bail money. Money-based bail, I submit, is not constitutional. Your witness Shree Arora, Bhushan, Dave, and Sibal.

  • @bsudarsanan
    @bsudarsanan 2 місяці тому +7

    Thank you, Sirs

  • @surendranathpavuluri
    @surendranathpavuluri 2 місяці тому +1

    All four of you are excellent in the field of justice and your views are fiercely independent. Ms Meenakshi Arora's decision not to accept judgeship in the SC is commendable. Earlier one is used to mention it as Honourable Supreme court but of late, it has lost the confidence of the general public.

  • @ShaswatiKrsna
    @ShaswatiKrsna 2 місяці тому +2

    Very important discussion I ever heard before. Thanks so much to all eminent personality.

  • @umaprabhakar6435
    @umaprabhakar6435 2 місяці тому +4

    Exactly what Ms. Arora says. No character building at school level. In convent school in the earlier times they had moral education and what is ethically good and what was bad. But today we find only sucessful people coming out of schools but not ethically strong ones.

    • @danCK1990
      @danCK1990 2 місяці тому

      ok can i higlight this comment!

  • @sureshnishanimath5620
    @sureshnishanimath5620 2 місяці тому +3

    Very good and eye opening discussion. Please have more such discussions to make the public know the reality.

  • @zahirahuda81
    @zahirahuda81 2 місяці тому +3

    Great talk, miss these intellectual discussions which were very normal when I was growing up

  • @paarthgrover1414
    @paarthgrover1414 7 годин тому

    Real lover of India
    Real lover of judiciary
    ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
    Salute to all of you
    You can become god of future india

  • @prabirray
    @prabirray 2 місяці тому +2

    Excellent.
    We want more of this kind of discussion on every facet of life. Let the leaders of civil society come forward and take the lead. General people will be the beneficiaries.

  • @JatinderSingh-nl5kf
    @JatinderSingh-nl5kf 2 місяці тому +2

    Bless you all
    May God protect you and give you the strength and health to fight this evil

  • @debasismitra8173
    @debasismitra8173 2 місяці тому +1

    What a fantastic, illuminating video it is !!!!!! Hats off to you and, encore!

  • @ramachandrannarayanan2402
    @ramachandrannarayanan2402 2 місяці тому +7

    You forgot the name of Arun Misra who was appointed head of human rights commission fot favouring Adani in 40 odd cases.

  • @lourencogoncalves5726
    @lourencogoncalves5726 2 місяці тому +2

    Sibal Sir great endeavor and initiative bring on more such initiatives

  • @tasheensyed8237
    @tasheensyed8237 2 місяці тому +1

    Thankyou soo much for bringing all this things in public it's a kind of awareness among the people.After listening this conversation I got a faith that things will change
    I am a big fan of Mr.Kapil .
    Thankyou.

  • @naseeb7733
    @naseeb7733 2 місяці тому +12

    Wonderful. Salam . for this. Knoowledge

  • @ashokgautam1194
    @ashokgautam1194 2 місяці тому +5

    Topic of vital importance for point of good bad or corrupt governanceqqq

  • @gulamquadirkhan8205
    @gulamquadirkhan8205 4 дні тому

    This kind of conversation really appreciate particular this time . Thanks to wire .

  • @ebnaahts5191
    @ebnaahts5191 Місяць тому +1

    Having such farsighted Judges and similar personalities in Rajya Sabha is necessary. This is how it should be and, is in the Rajya Sabha equivalent of many developed countries countries.Helps in unbiased criticism of the Lok Sabha.

  • @aurangzebansari3007
    @aurangzebansari3007 2 місяці тому +11

    Thanks for very fruitful conversation

  • @DrSunilShukla
    @DrSunilShukla 2 місяці тому +2

    A decent discussion, matter of pride.

  • @jolonankingdomways902
    @jolonankingdomways902 2 місяці тому +1

    Very meaningful discussion. Truly appreciate it

  • @UmashankarS2
    @UmashankarS2 2 місяці тому +1

    Mr. Kapil Sibal has given us excellent platform for exploring the inside of judiciary and the legal process. Thank you.

  • @RanjitSingh-qm2xg
    @RanjitSingh-qm2xg 2 місяці тому +1

    Very good discussion among legal luminaries. Thanks.

  • @sanjay-ut8ex
    @sanjay-ut8ex 2 місяці тому +4

    Good discussion.....

  • @snowys613
    @snowys613 2 дні тому

    just wow, how they know to listen is amazing ❤

  • @advocateavinashjos5197
    @advocateavinashjos5197 2 місяці тому +1

    Thanks Sibal sir awesome program and panel hats off to you

  • @mariannebcdsouza4092
    @mariannebcdsouza4092 2 дні тому

    Hi Meenakshi...nice to see you and love it

  • @maxsainongkhlaw5990
    @maxsainongkhlaw5990 2 місяці тому +1

    Positive, informative and inspirational talks. Extra ordinary minds.

  • @ErHajiHussain
    @ErHajiHussain 2 місяці тому

    Congratulates to people like u sir for working in the direction of truth and humanity tirelessly !

  • @christinal4158
    @christinal4158 Місяць тому

    Excellent discussion. Scared for the future of this country.

  • @reetapandey6722
    @reetapandey6722 2 місяці тому +3

    Fair opinions on legal matters❤

  • @sureshnishanimath5620
    @sureshnishanimath5620 2 місяці тому +1

    Very good and eye opening discussion. Let there be more such discussions for the public to know the reality.

  • @thomasaugustine4413
    @thomasaugustine4413 29 днів тому

    Wow, Dave sir. You said what needs to be said.
    You said whatever is spoken in hush, hush tones.
    Salute to you, sir!

  • @MonawarRahman
    @MonawarRahman 2 місяці тому +1

    Fantastic debate
    If any society raises women like Meenakshi Arora. That society will be an ideal society
    Salute you Mam ❤

  • @sandeepYadav-eo3gz
    @sandeepYadav-eo3gz 2 місяці тому +1

    Thanku so much

  • @lukeross494
    @lukeross494 2 місяці тому +2

    This panel has more credibility than entire Indian judiciary

  • @vijaykhallarkar1933
    @vijaykhallarkar1933 2 місяці тому

    Dear sir,
    It's a big step to bring such a renowned lawyers together and will discussing the judiciary and politics, it's great thing for the intellectual masses of these country.
    I only feel, had it been understood by common people.

  • @shaunbird8051
    @shaunbird8051 2 місяці тому

    Thanks so much to Kapil Sibbal for the excellent presentation. Judges should always be neutral, fair, impartial and a mindset of their own with real logic as their base. Having leanings to any political leader is a personal choice but should never be exhibited in public. In this world there are only two religions and that is Spirituality and other is Materialism as spoken by the Great Vivekananda Swamy. Logic is the biggest asset of any Judge, since this cuts across all religions and has no boundaries. If there happens to be some Judge who favours some political party with ulterior motives then it is very unfair and bad.

  • @syedharis7739
    @syedharis7739 2 місяці тому +2

    4 Gems 💎

  • @shaunshivam5461
    @shaunshivam5461 День тому

    A knowledgeable discussion indeed

  • @khirendrabehera9851
    @khirendrabehera9851 2 місяці тому

    I Am very much Thankfull to Those. 4 Senior Advocates By knowing About Judiciary Discussion

  • @ModiFan785
    @ModiFan785 День тому

    सारे भारत दुश्मन, हिन्दू दुश्मन एक साथ इसी चैनल पर मिल जावेंगे। कहीं और जगह भटकने की जरूरत नहीं है।

  • @shankarkamble4462
    @shankarkamble4462 2 місяці тому +1

    need of the hour. Class

  • @zafarhasan489
    @zafarhasan489 2 місяці тому +2

    Dave Saab Very Nice Speech by U

  • @teluram3925
    @teluram3925 2 місяці тому

    A true and eternal also seems spiritual eye opening debate, by our top legal most respected personalities, about JUDGES who look after, nurture ,soul and body of our constitution.We Salute THE FOUR proud of all of you.

  • @Indianwins2024
    @Indianwins2024 2 місяці тому +2

    Dave साहब एकदम सही बोल रहें हैं।

  • @maryanneekka5792
    @maryanneekka5792 Місяць тому

    Very enlightening conversation Yes all is not lost!!

  • @2009rsingh
    @2009rsingh 2 місяці тому +1

    Very knowledgeable discussion.

  • @ht5389
    @ht5389 2 місяці тому

    May your conversation bring a positive change.

  • @60hsv
    @60hsv 2 місяці тому

    Mr. Kapil Sibal Sir...Super unbiased conversation with leading senior advocates. Watching Dil Se right from first episode. Subjects chosen for conversation with participants of high dignity are of much relevance in the present scenario in the national interest. Thanks & look forward to the next episode.

  • @truth7653
    @truth7653 2 місяці тому +13

    These honest people can never, never be bought. Top lawyers do not want to become a judge as it is a drop in their pay!!!!

    • @agnescraig2912
      @agnescraig2912 2 місяці тому +4

      Didn't press the like icon because the first sentence is true but the spoiler is "drop in pay". It is comments like this about Money which must avoided at all costs. Why do you think people do not have altruistic reasons to rejecting an appointment but only Money. If honest people can't be bought then why do you accuse them of rejection based on money.

  • @arnabkundu114
    @arnabkundu114 2 місяці тому +2

    Great conversation

  • @thomasaugustine4413
    @thomasaugustine4413 29 днів тому

    Well said , sibbal sir.
    As long a the executive is part of the appointments, it will not work well for the Judiciary.
    Salute!

  • @user-ft4lr1ot2s
    @user-ft4lr1ot2s 2 місяці тому +1

    I appreciate Mr. Dave's remarks that giving rewards to Judges after their retirement is nothing but corruption

  • @binajohn3943
    @binajohn3943 2 місяці тому +1

    I hope these points brought up by these learned and respected gentlemen are spread all over the country 🙏

    • @agnescraig2912
      @agnescraig2912 2 місяці тому

      Could we include Ladies too. The Lady discussed a very important point about parents being challenged by their children. I did in the late sixties.

  • @Wg.Cdr.Rajinder.Singh1157
    @Wg.Cdr.Rajinder.Singh1157 2 місяці тому

    Good ,Really privileged to hear such minds.

  • @mariannebcdsouza4092
    @mariannebcdsouza4092 2 дні тому

    kapil sir happy u started this...will join soon

  • @pradipdas3273
    @pradipdas3273 2 місяці тому

    Very impressive, judicious and wonderful discussions. Salute to all. Request to carry on frequently to uphold democracy.

  • @syedharis7739
    @syedharis7739 2 місяці тому +2

    Wire on the top 👌, best wishes 👌 👏

  • @SkulledButterfly
    @SkulledButterfly 2 місяці тому

    Thank you so much dear Sirs and Ma'am, for this detailed insight into the topic. Most of us common people would trust your word and judgement much more than any other person or UA-camr out there. You all have an immense influence on today's youth and I'm sure most of us would hold our own beacon of change and not let your work go to waste. 🙏🇮🇳

  • @educatevillages1293
    @educatevillages1293 2 місяці тому

    This is incredible interview. Indian judiciary is fully being exploited. I'm watching from California. Please keep on protecting the Indian democracy.

  • @veerenderkumarseth6153
    @veerenderkumarseth6153 2 місяці тому +2

    Thanks for the very nice discusstion

  • @tapasbanerjee786
    @tapasbanerjee786 2 місяці тому +2

    Kapil how many judgements of Abhijit Ganguli were set aside by Supreme Court?

  • @antoniodiniz131
    @antoniodiniz131 2 місяці тому

    Simply excellent, a conversation of very high standard and building hope and expectations, that some days the judiciary and lawyers fraternity will rise above petty ambitions.

  • @MovieNite27
    @MovieNite27 2 місяці тому

    Thank you Wire, Kapil Sir, Meenakshi Arora Ma'am, Prashant Bhushan Sir, and Dushyant Dave Sir.
    Wish DD should do such programs
    I have done my part, liked and shared it on all Social Media

  • @fouzanmajid8004
    @fouzanmajid8004 2 місяці тому

    The time will be well spent watching these stalwarts giving their opinion about the importance of independence of Judiciary . It should give a ray off hope to all of us. May their tribe increase.

  • @pearlskis9741
    @pearlskis9741 Місяць тому

    These are the humans worth born for. Bravo.

  • @cinefile0075
    @cinefile0075 2 місяці тому +2

    There should be a law against Judges joining politics. Just like army chief, judges shouldn't be allowed to enter in politics. After his /her career is done, he/she can take retirement or join private sector for money