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I remember we joked about this years ago: "Hey, someday microtransactions are gonna get so bad they are going to charge you each time you want to play the game, lol." And now it's sadly reality...
You don’t seem to realize that you just explained all mobile games in a nutshell. You get free energy, but it’s so slow that you have to pay for more. Remember that Harry Potter game?
It really sucks that no one's playing this game anymore because I didn't play it too much but I saw it had a lot of potential and I haven't found any other battle royale's like it because all battle royale's now just about guns the culling was mostly melee
@@Helfirehydratrans I am more or less against the 'battle royale' kinda gameplay, but that being out of the way - this actually sounds exciting! Being a person that sucks at shooters, this could have piqued my interest if they hadn't ruined it with their monetization... (okay, I also suck at all other games, but not being required to aim is more accessible by far)
There will always be the smallest, but most devoted amount of idiots in the world who will comply with this horrible kind of system enough for it to be validated. I’d bet the money they would spend on these matches that there’s one born every minute who would play this garbage and like it.
@@masterXjakensu The people who pay for loot crates, season passes, over priced cosmetics, and worthless preorder bonuses are the majority of "gamers" sadly. The indie community is usually a reprieve from this crap, so this somewhat indie title trying out this sort of thing needs to be squashed .
Gamers: pay2win microtransactions in paid games like SWBFII is the worst monetization ever The Culling: Oh my sweet summer child, let me show you something EA: oh thank god
Actually, it's a little better considering that there are no skin economies or DLC at an arcade. You pay once and get everything the game has to offer. Hell, you can even win tickets at an arcade that you can trade in for actual prizes.
The difference is you don't have to buy the machine to pay to play the game. Even if you were to buy a machine, most machines have a free play option in the test menu.
Oh I dunno, this seems more like exhuming it for necrophilia, beating the dead horse doesn't quite encapsulate the trainwreck fashion of charging people to not only buy but then again to play more than one game of a solely multiplayer game.
That theory makes more sense. Big companies can pay smaller companies to try new things so that they don't hurt their stocks by bad press. Think about it. 1. Make a low effort game at a cheap cost. 2. Try to get any kind of player base to play it. 3. Try a ridiculous business model and gather data. 4. Send data to a big company and cash out. It doesn't matter what kind of bad press you got or if players have criticisms about the game. The whole point was about gathering data. Of course this theory only makes sense if the player base is significant enough to actually get data.
Let me get this straight: You pay money *buying the actual game,* said game also has a feature where you *pay per match.* EA Games: *Challenge everything*
@@wilmagregg3131 no it's pay to play. you literally pay over 400 dollars worth of expansions (proabebly more but you get the idea) to then have to pay a monthly fee to play the game -.- WoW is the pioneer of all this greedy bullshit if you ask me and doesn't deserve to fly under the radar any longer for all i care.
It does makes sense the more you think about it. Even some of the worst monetization schemes from the greedy corporate titans such as EA and Activision didn't reach to such insanly greedy levels that Xaviant is reaching right now. I wouldn't be surprised if the game only lasts a few weeks before having to shut down because even people who defend the aforementioned greedy companies (Not Xaviant) would shake their heads at this shit.
I watched it back when it was still kind of popular, it was cool as it was one of the first battle royales, but the gameplay was kind of boring and repetitive
The fact that EA is the one that didn't do this stunt, just scares me. Lets all acknowledge that someone is WORSE than EA and proved it with just one game
@@dylanbell268 nothing wrong with a battle pass I don't think anyway I honestly don't mind it, but loot boxes are fucked the difference is you know what your getting with a battle pass, you get 100 or more tiers of content yes payed for 10 dollars but sometimes it's worth it if you want to grind that battlepass with gameplay it's actualy fun unlocking each thing, but loot boxes can go to help and burn with Hitler
Yeah... And here i though that the most absurd they could get was charging for save slots (yes. That happened. Fucking MGSurvive). And now they went just... Beyond. The full money devouring experience of an arcade in the comfort of your home.
literally all mobile games do this, you know you can play for a limited time until your characters get tired or something and you have to pay to make them wake up faster, it's retarded and now the same thing is being implemented into a pc game. Pathetic.
@@vindicatelol infinity blade 3 : pay to craft faster. Pay to get better weapons and armors. Pay for in game money, so you can use that money to pay in game items. I love the lore, story and artstyle but for god's mercy, that game was a horrible experiences
its called a crash what were seeing now is the same thing people saw right before the first crash arrogant companies realsing trash buggy games in mass scaming and treating coustmers like trash while paying of all game reviewers to say only good things and lie all right before the entire gaming industry got thrown into the abyss that was a crash
@@wilmagregg3131 I mean that's what caused the original crash. If you make a big budget game in only half a year, and sell it for over $100, people eventually wise up and stop buying. One bad investment could lead to a total collapse of a publisher, which is what happened to Atari. When so much of your income relies on micro-transactions, what happens when people stop buying them? I think the crash will be localized, there isn't one single publisher holding up the entire industry like there was back then, but micro-transactions are nearing the edge of a cliff regardless.
I'd argue its been going on for years now. Each generation of consoles, there seems to be less 'gem' games. I mean this generation had like a handful that were up there, RDR2/God of War, Spidey to name some.
Imagine you get on to play your first match, then your controller dies, your dog trips over the power chord, perhaps your like me and just cant figure out how to open your parachute lol Being like the first one dead is never fun, it allways feels like a waste of time to get into another game, now imagine also loosing 30 cents every time you die, ive died about 3k times in BR games combined, that would have cost 1500$.
Now you understand the only gripe about Ace Combat Infinity: one free fuel every 4 hours, total of 3 in 12 hours. The game was brilliant except for this.
The thing that killed this game for me, if you remember, was that for the first month it was only available to UA-camrs and streamers, I was hyped and ready to play it but they wouldn't let me, by the time it came out i had already lost interest and i think others did too because when i remembered it existed and went to buy it, it was already a dying game
"Only the winner can continue to play" He's going to be all alone in the lobby waiting for players, that may never come, for the next match. Such a great idea to make sure matches are filled, boot everyone out! Makes perfect sense!
If you think about it arcade machines were really just made to be hard as fuck to get as much money as possible, the video game industry has evolved for the better with a few select companies building trust for consumers.. Until The Culling came along.
We already did this in arcades. We need to keep moving forward not backwards. No subscription, no battle pass. We need more stardew and monster hunter! Monster hunter has never asked me for a dollar. And my extra money goes to mhw toys and shirts.
Apheront Athanaric it’s the same system as their other games. They make a ‘G’ or ‘Ultimate’ version of the games with a lot of added content and a new difficulty level, they just packaged it as an expansion for MHW instead, and then we get the free title updates for free which In total are pretty much worth what a regular expansion would
Same with the most recent Modern Warfare I've never spent a penny and can still get all of the stuff it's great having games like that, free stuff constantly.
@@TheTroygames I agree to a certain extent. I feel like there should be a package that you can get full of common customization items, but for the normal stuff with buffs you should have to pay. I mean the game is already free.
I wouldn't play a battle royal if they payed me 6$a week, I'd rather just go to work. I'ma go back to laughing like Heavy blowing up monsters in Monster Hunter World and impacently waiting for Kerbal Space Program 2
That actually happened in MMOs when they came onto the scene and still go that way today. You could pay a guy to level up your toon to max level and get you the best gear.
W/e who cares. Nobody even plays those games. At least nobody with any shred of self respect. They might as well charge you 100$ for a minute of gameplay and nothing would change. Just go play indie games.
Crazy how badly they blew it, they were one of the first Battle Royals when that genre wasn't even really a genre yet to begin with. They coulda been a powerhouse if they just treated their first game right.
Crazy right? Never played it myself but I heard the first game was quite liked and somewhat popular. Wonder what "decisions" the devs made that made the players leave
@@ra6765 the first culling was a lesson to the industry on why you SHOULDN'T ALWAYS listen to the players Literally any changes the players wanted it was put in the game with enough support regardless of place in the community or actual skill Let's say some random new player goes on the forums to complain about being killed by a mediocre weapon at best and gets 4 likes The devs would need that shit to oblivion only to make it overpowered when a youtuber complains it's too weak
It's a shame, because arcade-style monetization in exchange for a very low price of entry is a genuine way through which gamemakers could finance their games. In order for you to pay as much as you would playing this game instead of PUBG ($30 as of right now), it would take 4 months of monthly subscriptions or about 100 game tokens, plus the daily free game tokens. If you decide to stop playing before then, you've saved yourself some money, and if you decide to keep playing, you've decided that your enjoyment from each session of play is worth the payment. Now, of course, this game doesn't deserve the price point it sets itself at due to the fact that it's simply a mediocre offering in a saturated market, but the reason I call this a shame is because people may now conflate a monetization scheme that has the potential to be fairly implemented with the low-effort cash grabbing mentality that prevails in the industry, as it is seen here.
Char Aznable the 80s definitely isn’t my favorite, but I love arcades. Wish there were more of them. I don’t want to pay to play in my own home on the $400 machine I own though. A one time fee to gain access to the game and a choice to sub or play free to play would have been more than doable
@@Shorkshire "A kid's game like Minecraft" That's uh, one way to put it. I don't exactly agree, but you can choose to view Minecraft however you'd like to.
@@Raven-626- it's hard to see people act casual to someone trying to make an argument happen, bravo, fellow brother. You are the hero of comment sections, saving endless people's time.
What games are pay to play in 2020 I don’t have that many games this year sadly due to the virus. People say snowrunner is a ptw game with no real evidence as everything is in game is unlockable on the map for free
shadowspider9 ah ok 👌 totally agree there to this day I tell people cod is the reason why dlc and season pass so expensive, I remember halo 2/3 dlc 4.99$ for packs....shit I’m old lmao
You know scheme isn't the same as scam, right? A scheme is just a plan that is doing what it supposed to. THIS scheme IS a scam, but not all schemes are. Think about a color scheme, is that a 'scam' or is it just a defined collection of options put into action. Yong uses a LOT of words he don't know the meaning to or how to pronounce them, and often as in this case, uses the word inaccurately. Think about a monetization scheme that sells you a solid offline single player story that actually does 'just work' with the intent of selling the game for a fair market price and merchandising by making bobbleheads, and other merch. This is certainly fair, ethical and is in no way a scam, but is entirely a scheme. Sometimes it's used in a negative context but only because people don't think it means what it means. Here's what Webster's defines it as: Definition of scheme 1: a plan or program of action especially : a crafty or secret one 2: a systematic or organized configuration : DESIGN color scheme 3: a concise statement or table : EPITOME 4a: a graphic sketch or outline archaic (1): a mathematical or astronomical diagram (2): a representation of the astrological aspects of the planets at a particular time Notice how it has nothing to do with scam, that's a different thing. One could argue that the first definition's inclusion of "crafty or a secret(plan)" assumes it's for the purpose of committing a scam, but there are plenty of good reasons to have a crafty and secret plan to ensure security in code or prevent the theft of IP or leaks. Even so, that raises an issue of transparency vs privacy and security, but there's still no scam required in any part of it, secret, crafty, or otherwise. I LMFAO'd when i heard Yong going on about it!
There's a difference. In MMO's, you get a main storyline quest (Yeah, most of em are bad, I'm coming from FFXIV so a bit spoiled), a bunch of various locations, new dungeons/raids/classes/cosmetics, and your progress is saved. In a BR your only objective is to win that match. Hop into another game, try and win that one. MMO's require a lot more costs involving servers and infrastructure than BR's.
@@TeaMMatE11 also in WoW you dont need to pay to be able to pay to play each month. if you want the newest expansion then sure. but i was able to play for a month without paying for a single expansion. i kinda enjoyed it. not enough to pay for an expansion and keep paying monthly. but enought to say "eh it was kinda fun"
I'd bet good money that EA has been chomping at the bit to implement something similar, but they know no one outside of the mobile market would be stupid enough to actually pay for it.
“Imagine actually paying to play a full match, we only had to play 80 hours to Darth Vader” “Ohh, Imagine paying money to actually play more than once a day, we’ve been paying for the same sports game for years” -This post was made by the EA Fan Boy Group
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I can only think of final fantasy 14 when I read this line specifically. A boss of stormblood sees you as both a friend and an enemy since you're the only worthy opponent he can fight.
The pricing model is so difficult to parse, and so manifestly not targeted at any existing or potential playerbase, that I can only think that this is some kind of tax scheme or a deliberate failure calculated for business reasons.
Thats EZ. You get investors. spend half the money they give you on coke the rest on some bad ass hardware and an office than you milk the money pigs and game whales with deadbeat DLC pay the rent and pay back the investors and than repeat that the game industry in 2020
I don't know why they thought an arcade cabinet like monetization would go over well but with how bad lootboxes have gotten I don't think it even elicits as much surprise and reaction as it should.
“It can be expensive to run servers with a lot of players for a battle royale game” Yeah....well you won’t need to worry guys, there will be zero players now....
Could be summed up as: Xavient had a goose that laid golden eggs, killed and cooked that goose thinking they could get a better goose, realized how badly they fucked up, got a new goose and spray-painted it gold claiming it was as good as the old one but are now demanding money on a regular basis to pay for the paint to keep the dumb thing looking gold, surprised Pikachu face when no one is buying the ruse
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Damn yong didnt know you were a poet
That's some pretty thought provoking stuff
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Hmmmmm, how many period we can get? 🤔
I remember we joked about this years ago: "Hey, someday microtransactions are gonna get so bad they are going to charge you each time you want to play the game, lol." And now it's sadly reality...
next is 25 cents for a clip of ammo or health pack.
Watch you'll have to pay each time you press a button.
50p per step
StaticShock42 We already do
You don’t seem to realize that you just explained all mobile games in a nutshell. You get free energy, but it’s so slow that you have to pay for more. Remember that Harry Potter game?
EA: I'm the greediest game company.
Xaviant: Pay me five dollars to hold my beer.
comment of the day right here
Lol
more like buy me a beer for 5 dollars so u can hold it for me once per day or u can pay me more to hold it for me
Lol 😆 this comment through
"But first pay five dollars to see this comment."
Everyone: "What the hell is this garbage?"
EA: "No, no. He's got a point."
Begone
EA: Nono, don't mind me, by all means...
*G i v e M e S o m e I d e a s*
write that down write that down
Lmao I love that movie 😂
Naw, even EA thinks that is too greedy.
Joke’s on them, you can’t screw players over if there isn’t any
Aren’t
@@shenanigans1231 implying that there's more than one player in the game at a time lmao
There will always be an idiot saying "shut up and take my money"
It really sucks that no one's playing this game anymore because I didn't play it too much but I saw it had a lot of potential and I haven't found any other battle royale's like it because all battle royale's now just about guns the culling was mostly melee
@@Helfirehydratrans I am more or less against the 'battle royale' kinda gameplay, but that being out of the way -
this actually sounds exciting!
Being a person that sucks at shooters, this could have piqued my interest if they hadn't ruined it with their monetization...
(okay, I also suck at all other games, but not being required to aim is more accessible by far)
Imagine paying money to play a match where you could potentially die in two seconds or DC.
And now go further in this nightmare and imagine most of the games embrace that policy.
laoxep if it becomes anywhere near normal we as gamers will rise up and simply not play
@@toonie6025 dunno, I am pretty sure if Nintendo would do something like that, they would get away with it ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
There will always be the smallest, but most devoted amount of idiots in the world who will comply with this horrible kind of system enough for it to be validated. I’d bet the money they would spend on these matches that there’s one born every minute who would play this garbage and like it.
@@masterXjakensu
The people who pay for loot crates, season passes, over priced cosmetics, and worthless preorder bonuses are the majority of "gamers" sadly.
The indie community is usually a reprieve from this crap, so this somewhat indie title trying out this sort of thing needs to be squashed .
Bro that's a total deal, You get the culling and then anyone who tries to use your computer instantly gets disgusted and leaves. Perfect security
Better than McAfee
I think I’ve found a solution.
Isn't this version a temporary Xbox One exclusive though?
@@penumbrum3135 i dunno who cares its the culling
dude wat?
"Even pay to win is better than this."
There they go moving the goalposts again.
Gamers: pay2win microtransactions in paid games like SWBFII is the worst monetization ever
The Culling: Oh my sweet summer child, let me show you something
EA: oh thank god
@@nohints whats SWBFII
@@zenssa6686 Star Wars Battlefront 2.
@@zenssa6686 Star Wars Battlefront 2
@@zenssa6686 i would guess Star Wars Battlefront 2
2000: pay to own
2010: pay to win
2020: pay to play
@thematic pay to *live*
2040: Pay to look at
2050: All your pay belongs to us
2060: pay to breathe.
Except you already paid when you bought the game!
EA: "Finally, a worthy opponent. Our battle will be legendary!"
Legendary comment
*Must pay to access battle*
EA has left the game
If this comment is not pinned I swear
@@buttapotato1233 it's not 😔😔😔
EA isn't nearly this bad, at least EA makes actual games.
"Pay-per-match"
You can literally hear EA sharpening their pencils.
And now the gamers are sharpening their pitchforks.
Watch battlefield 6 adopt this
I honest to god do not believe that EA is stupid enough to use this model.
@@nostop7794 *Looks at launch day battlefront 2*
Nah mate, they're definitely that stupid.
"We now introduce:
PPM!!!!
aka surprise
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ticket!
Surprise tickets!
Buy them now!!!"
This can be summarised as “The Culling: The Culling”
Surprised Rob Liefeld didn’t trademark that one.
The conning
Yep. The playerbase is indeed being culled. Mission accomplished.
😂😂😂
Lmao
Just imagine if a hacker kills everyone in the match and gets their free token to ruin another lobby for free
Or the hacker ruins the games economy by giving everyone 5k tokens
Just imagine if a hacker makes everything free and nobody wanna play, because it seems
Bruh their max population was 249 people 😂😂😂
I would download scripts to do this just to torture losers playing this trash.
These guys literally pulled an EA before EA.
they should of waited a few years of being "goodie too shoes" then scam. Like all gaming companies had done to it so far :(
These guys are *more* EA than EA *itself*
@@ark4dius facts! Even EA in the corner made as fuck wondering why they didnt think of this
EAviant!
Actually i wouldnt call it worse than that what Apex did
I'd rather go to an arcade than play this game.
Same payment concept.
Actually, it's a little better considering that there are no skin economies or DLC at an arcade. You pay once and get everything the game has to offer. Hell, you can even win tickets at an arcade that you can trade in for actual prizes.
@@OmegaZyion don't t have to worry about online play either.
The difference is you don't have to buy the machine to pay to play the game. Even if you were to buy a machine, most machines have a free play option in the test menu.
グラサングーSunglassesgoo even if it doesnt, you can open the machine and manually trip the quarter sensor to play as you like.
@@sekireialpha Or you just use quarters and then collect them after a month or two. It basically acts like a piggy bank.
Developer: Nobody's playing our game!
Studio Exec: Clearly the problem is it isn't expensive enough.
Sounds just like Fallout 76 subscription...
@@Vodhr Lmao, even Fallout wouldn't go this low
The Culling: "We're back!"
Everyone: "I dont even know who you are"
Everyone: you left?
The Culling: You will...
Lol 🤣
Culling: As you can see, I am not dead!
Everyone: Yes. Yes you are.
😆 🤣
The trailer:
"It's TIME"
"FINALLY!"
Everyone: No one asked!!
"I don't even know who you are"
Hop in boys. We are gonna find out how the fuck asked
I’m going to space to see who actually asked
@@morganpriest7726 the age old question, will we finally find the person who asked in the Culling 2?
They're calling from the 90's, it's the man who asked
"We're back!"
*charges people per game while people are losing their jobs in a pandemic*
*Do you guys not have home office jobs?*
@@thesarcasticblizzcondev8421 I almost took this seriously until I seen your profile pic and your name.
Hats off to you.
@@thesarcasticblizzcondev8421 legend
@@whyhe11othere lol Look at this clown
@@Izzmonster I looked and I laughed
This ain't even a revival. This is just digging up a dead horse's grave and then beating the corpse.
Maybe they can monetize even that.
1 stick = 5 dollars
5 swings = 2 dollars
1 minute of beating time = 10 dollars
Oh I dunno, this seems more like exhuming it for necrophilia, beating the dead horse doesn't quite encapsulate the trainwreck fashion of charging people to not only buy but then again to play more than one game of a solely multiplayer game.
@@martins.4240 Digging up the dead horse and charging $5 per bat.
It's almost necromancy.
Yes
Theory: EA paid them to do this as a dry run and to see the reaction
That theory makes more sense. Big companies can pay smaller companies to try new things so that they don't hurt their stocks by bad press.
Think about it.
1. Make a low effort game at a cheap cost.
2. Try to get any kind of player base to play it.
3. Try a ridiculous business model and gather data.
4. Send data to a big company and cash out.
It doesn't matter what kind of bad press you got or if players have criticisms about the game. The whole point was about gathering data. Of course this theory only makes sense if the player base is significant enough to actually get data.
Or an attempt at a new low so that "surprise mechanic" is solidified as an acceptable standard?
@@blacksalena0 that also makes sense
The Juicero of video games.
Lol that's cute but EA has been doing this business model for YEARS with Dungeon Keeper Mobile. This was actually an EA idea that Xavient copied.
As you said "so here's the trailer" I got a raid ad and lost my shit.
The Raid ad tried to steer you away from the nonsense that followed
To other nonsense
@@alexryll9237 yeah haha
Same thing happened to me I laughed so hard
Why wait to waste your money when you can waste money on raid casino legends now you know it makes no sense
Xaviant: “you now have to pay online matches by purchasing tokens.”
EA: *TAKING NOTES*
EA: Write that down, write that down!!!
Scott Krafft
Dammit, someone else got to say it first lol
I hope every MUT game requires some sort of per match paywall, at least that way no one will play and it'll die.
*FURIOUSLY TAKING NOTES
Fixed it for ya! (^_^)
Damn it!! You beat me to it! 🤣🤣
The culling is just *culling* itself.
@@dom4591 was this before h1z1 too?
@@dom4591 If I remember correctly didn't MGS4 have a mode similair to battle royale
I already remember EYE having it
YOU’RE *CULLING* ME APART, LISA!
Let me get this straight: You pay money *buying the actual game,* said game also has a feature where you *pay per match.*
EA Games: *Challenge everything*
EA: "It was inevitable."
did we all forget about WOrld of Warcraft? the game that has been pulling this bullshit for years??
@@DiscusvissenRocken that is not the same thing that is a subscription model.
@@wilmagregg3131 no it's pay to play. you literally pay over 400 dollars worth of expansions (proabebly more but you get the idea) to then have to pay a monthly fee to play the game -.- WoW is the pioneer of all this greedy bullshit if you ask me and doesn't deserve to fly under the radar any longer for all i care.
@@wilmagregg3131 WoW: Pay money to acquire game, pay subscription, pay full game price every time a new expansion comes out. That is pay to play
I have an better idea: when you die(don't win) , the game automatically gets removed from your Xbox account.
Not only that it gets deleted from the Microsoft store and never appears on the Xbox again
Trickyy nah you have to pay $5.99 to get it back
Also it nukes your account as well 👍
I like this idea
Don't give them idea!!! Lol
I’ve seen people calling this a money laundering scheme and this is honestly the only way that this game makes sense
I was thinking the same thing. Something is fishy.
It does makes sense the more you think about it. Even some of the worst monetization schemes from the greedy corporate titans such as EA and Activision didn't reach to such insanly greedy levels that Xaviant is reaching right now. I wouldn't be surprised if the game only lasts a few weeks before having to shut down because even people who defend the aforementioned greedy companies (Not Xaviant) would shake their heads at this shit.
Maybe it's just farming pr and they change it in a week
@@Kappi__ that would make sense aswell
I didn't even know anything about this game just before watching this video.
Me neither, I think I saw one let's play of it and forgot about it afterwards.
Same, I had no clue the game ever existed before this video honestly
I watched it back when it was still kind of popular, it was cool as it was one of the first battle royales, but the gameplay was kind of boring and repetitive
Good
Me neither, and apparently for a good reason
“everyday people were begging for a comeback”
that might have been the most deluded text i have ever read
I mean, I was...
He wasn't specific... He meant that his "people" was begging for the game to make a comeback to get their money back.
They must have been in an echo chamber and telling themselves that...
Xaviant: Kills The Culling
Xaviant: "Wanna see me do it again?"
"Suicide is badass"
"Stop! Stooop! It's already dead!"
*Culls The Culling*
"need 16 players to fill a match"
[ 15 players online ]
😑
The fact that EA is the one that didn't do this stunt, just scares me. Lets all acknowledge that someone is WORSE than EA and proved it with just one game
Dcard Dcardian not yet, they’ve just been doing the dumbass loot box and battlepass shit recently
@@dylanbell268 i dont mind battle passes as long as its for minor things like premium time and skins...
It's because it was so dumb even EA didn't have the courage to do it.
@@dylanbell268 nothing wrong with a battle pass I don't think anyway I honestly don't mind it, but loot boxes are fucked the difference is you know what your getting with a battle pass, you get 100 or more tiers of content yes payed for 10 dollars but sometimes it's worth it if you want to grind that battlepass with gameplay it's actualy fun unlocking each thing, but loot boxes can go to help and burn with Hitler
Yeah... And here i though that the most absurd they could get was charging for save slots (yes. That happened. Fucking MGSurvive). And now they went just... Beyond. The full money devouring experience of an arcade in the comfort of your home.
EA and bungie: alright everyone we can come out now someone's doing dumber shit than us.
whats wrong with bungie they are not bad as ea and bethesda
Idk why you’ve got Bungie there should be Bethesda
When you say bungie you meant Activision right?
Nah he's got a point about bungie. They're making some really dogshit changes & making people pay for it.
Bro i read that and literally laughed out loud, thanks for the lols mate
Christ, this is something you'd expect to see in some Korean mobile moba.
literally all mobile games do this, you know you can play for a limited time until your characters get tired or something and you have to pay to make them wake up faster, it's retarded and now the same thing is being implemented into a pc game. Pathetic.
@@vindicatelol infinity blade 3 : pay to craft faster. Pay to get better weapons and armors. Pay for in game money, so you can use that money to pay in game items.
I love the lore, story and artstyle but for god's mercy, that game was a horrible experiences
Vindicate so you don’t have to pay to download the game..
*Mongolian mobile moba :D
even korean gatchas are not this open about bending you over to give you the ole meat tube
I feel like the entertainment industry is going through a kind of “slow suicide”
its called a crash what were seeing now is the same thing people saw right before the first crash arrogant companies realsing trash buggy games in mass scaming and treating coustmers like trash while paying of all game reviewers to say only good things and lie all right before the entire gaming industry got thrown into the abyss that was a crash
@@wilmagregg3131 I mean that's what caused the original crash. If you make a big budget game in only half a year, and sell it for over $100, people eventually wise up and stop buying. One bad investment could lead to a total collapse of a publisher, which is what happened to Atari. When so much of your income relies on micro-transactions, what happens when people stop buying them? I think the crash will be localized, there isn't one single publisher holding up the entire industry like there was back then, but micro-transactions are nearing the edge of a cliff regardless.
Too slow,
I'd argue its been going on for years now. Each generation of consoles, there seems to be less 'gem' games. I mean this generation had like a handful that were up there, RDR2/God of War, Spidey to name some.
Am still waiting for the game that hit the ET level of badness to start the crash.
2019: ADs between matches? How can it get any greedier?
2020: *PAY-PER-MATCH*
EA: "I'm the greediest company!"
Bethesda: "No. I am."
"Amateurs"
EA: "What was that, punk?"
The Culling: " *A M A T E U R S* "
Unfortunately the have so much competition
You gotta love how they use the whole "one free match per day!" As if they are doing us a favor smh
That's how marketing works, put a positive spin on it even if they're slowly strangling your infant :D
Imagine you get on to play your first match, then your controller dies, your dog trips over the power chord, perhaps your like me and just cant figure out how to open your parachute lol
Being like the first one dead is never fun, it allways feels like a waste of time to get into another game, now imagine also loosing 30 cents every time you die, ive died about 3k times in BR games combined, that would have cost 1500$.
I mean they are by helping us get out of the game so we can do something better with our lives 😂
Now you understand the only gripe about Ace Combat Infinity: one free fuel every 4 hours, total of 3 in 12 hours.
The game was brilliant except for this.
Fred Krazé exactly what I was thinking
"The risk was calculated, but man am I bad at math"
I rate that
Fantastic meme
Meme Approved
The only culling going on is that of the developer’s bank account.
The thing that killed this game for me, if you remember, was that for the first month it was only available to UA-camrs and streamers, I was hyped and ready to play it but they wouldn't let me, by the time it came out i had already lost interest and i think others did too because when i remembered it existed and went to buy it, it was already a dying game
*“We get messages everyday for The Culling to come back.”*
Who tf asked for this?
All one people are gonna be hyped for this!
The same people who kept playing Anthem, I bet.
Probably sent the messages to his own email, poor man's copyright.
The 2 people who played the culling 2, presumably
Everyone at their studio
"Only the winner can continue to play" He's going to be all alone in the lobby waiting for players, that may never come, for the next match. Such a great idea to make sure matches are filled, boot everyone out! Makes perfect sense!
Yeah as if anyone would actually pay $6 to play this abomination of a game 😂😂
@@RexarGamingYT i would rather pay 6$ for a cheese burger for the same experience. 1 time use only
@@wolontong damn now im hungry XD
Well, that's technically what "culling" is. Culling of the weak blablablabla and all that shit
-Yes, I did get it from Far Cry 5-
@@wolontong bro 😂😂😂
Dev: •trying to figure out how to make money on his game-sees a vintage arcade machine• “Eureka!”
yeah hehe!! it's the same mechanic.
Jesus Salazar except without the start up fee
darter9000 its a shame to have so little likes for a genius comment XD.
If you think about it arcade machines were really just made to be hard as fuck to get as much money as possible, the video game industry has evolved for the better with a few select companies building trust for consumers.. Until The Culling came along.
aracedes are getting out of date and here's me still waiting for kancolle arcade to come to my country.
We already did this in arcades. We need to keep moving forward not backwards.
No subscription, no battle pass.
We need more stardew and monster hunter!
Monster hunter has never asked me for a dollar. And my extra money goes to mhw toys and shirts.
Well, MHW actually charged $40 for an expansion, but man, it was worth it
Apheront Athanaric it’s the same system as their other games. They make a ‘G’ or ‘Ultimate’ version of the games with a lot of added content and a new difficulty level, they just packaged it as an expansion for MHW instead, and then we get the free title updates for free which In total are pretty much worth what a regular expansion would
Yeahhh but come on, paying to customize your character? Why?
Same with the most recent Modern Warfare I've never spent a penny and can still get all of the stuff it's great having games like that, free stuff constantly.
@@TheTroygames I agree to a certain extent. I feel like there should be a package that you can get full of common customization items, but for the normal stuff with buffs you should have to pay. I mean the game is already free.
How about a system “Pay me to Play” this garbage greedy copy ass game. Pay us 6$ and we will play your game for a month.
Even if you dubbeld the pay I wouldn't take that job.
I wouldn't play a battle royal if they payed me 6$a week, I'd rather just go to work.
I'ma go back to laughing like Heavy blowing up monsters in Monster Hunter World and impacently waiting for Kerbal Space Program 2
That actually happened in MMOs when they came onto the scene and still go that way today. You could pay a guy to level up your toon to max level and get you the best gear.
$6 for a month? Your time is that cheap?
Quiet Wanderer impatient*
EA: **Monetize everything**
Xaviant: **Does something worse**
EA: Is it possible to learn this power?
Not from a jedi
Ea is like Hitler but even Hitler cared for Germany or something.
Xaviant: yea for two million dollars
That moment when it's so bad Yong doesn't bother with an actual title
I didn't think the industry could get much worse
Xaviant: Wanna bet $6?
I’ll p
The scary part? This might be standard in a few years... Everyone shunned the horse armour DLC and now we have skin packs in every second game.
I remember that.
W/e who cares. Nobody even plays those games. At least nobody with any shred of self respect. They might as well charge you 100$ for a minute of gameplay and nothing would change. Just go play indie games.
I highly doubt it. Remember the meltdown of EA SW Battlefront II?
Subscription-based online game was the standard a few years back.
...Except that those are good games.
true bruh moment
F’s in the chat bois
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Crazy how badly they blew it, they were one of the first Battle Royals when that genre wasn't even really a genre yet to begin with. They coulda been a powerhouse if they just treated their first game right.
They know it, too. Might be why the director looks like he's sneering when he speaks.
Crazy right? Never played it myself but I heard the first game was quite liked and somewhat popular. Wonder what "decisions" the devs made that made the players leave
It would have failed anyways the first game was literally unplayable
@@ra6765 the first culling was a lesson to the industry on why you SHOULDN'T ALWAYS listen to the players
Literally any changes the players wanted it was put in the game with enough support regardless of place in the community or actual skill
Let's say some random new player goes on the forums to complain about being killed by a mediocre weapon at best and gets 4 likes
The devs would need that shit to oblivion only to make it overpowered when a youtuber complains it's too weak
It’s the real life version of getting a bad route ending
Imagine taking a dead game and limiting it to one free play a day lol. "This will surely bring in revenue bois!"
It stops the server load for sure.
They can't be this delusional.
Ho but they are
Welp, joke’s on us
They are just ahead of our time
Greed Surpasses all
It's a shame, because arcade-style monetization in exchange for a very low price of entry is a genuine way through which gamemakers could finance their games. In order for you to pay as much as you would playing this game instead of PUBG ($30 as of right now), it would take 4 months of monthly subscriptions or about 100 game tokens, plus the daily free game tokens. If you decide to stop playing before then, you've saved yourself some money, and if you decide to keep playing, you've decided that your enjoyment from each session of play is worth the payment.
Now, of course, this game doesn't deserve the price point it sets itself at due to the fact that it's simply a mediocre offering in a saturated market, but the reason I call this a shame is because people may now conflate a monetization scheme that has the potential to be fairly implemented with the low-effort cash grabbing mentality that prevails in the industry, as it is seen here.
Gamers: It can't get worse than this.
EA: Challenge Accepted.
EA: Challenge everything
EA: Pay us to keep the game from you.
@@bobleeroy772 EA: Charge everything
'iT iS tHeIr GaMe, ThEy CaN dO wHaT tHeY wAnT wItH iT, tHeY aRe A bUsInEsS aNd HaVe To MaKe MoNeY sOmEhOw!'
It's their game
It's are right to call it trash
@@maddoxweaks4095 Are
I'm sure someone out there said this.
@@OneEyedGhoulX777 100%
@@Repudiate hey, it doesn't need to be fixed cuz people agrees with it
The Culling: "We're back!"
*everyone hated that*
The Culling: We're back!
Thanos (everyone): I don't even know who you are.
No one is going to play this shit!
Reddit moment
Metalgear survive: we're going to charge per save!
The Culling: How quaint... hold my beer.
Can't wait to see people defend the Culling 2. "But it was made by the same people as Culling 1" "What you don't have $6 to play a free game?"
@@tylercafe1260 oh there will be
*hold my token
I'm soooo expecting to get a hold my beer comment here. Here I go.
Oh great. Another very original "Hold My Beer" comment.
"HEY RemEmBEr WHeN ArcAdE MaCHinEs WeRe pAY tO plAY."
Now it's pay to pay to play
Except arcades were fun.
Char Aznable the 80s definitely isn’t my favorite, but I love arcades. Wish there were more of them. I don’t want to pay to play in my own home on the $400 machine I own though. A one time fee to gain access to the game and a choice to sub or play free to play would have been more than doable
They still are pay to play
Nope, it's pay to play for pay to play
"First battle royale game" laughs in minecraft hunger games
“One of the first battle royals games” is actually what he said.
A kid's game like Minecraft certainly doesn't count lmao
@@Shorkshire
"A kid's game like Minecraft"
That's uh, one way to put it. I don't exactly agree, but you can choose to view Minecraft however you'd like to.
@@Raven-626- it's hard to see people act casual to someone trying to make an argument happen, bravo, fellow brother. You are the hero of comment sections, saving endless people's time.
@@Shorkshire what about fortnite?
Xaviant is making EA look like saints, and I never thought that could've happened.
You have to be absolutely greedy to top EA or Bethesda
@@cosmicwraithgamer7471 To do that you'd have to be greedier than WARIO!
EA actually did this in FIFA Ultimate Team with their Draft mode.
Half of those players were Jim Sterling trying to find a match.
good one ;)
and critikal
Xaviant CEO: gets high and writes tons of mails to himself asking to return Culling
CEO next day: you've asked us...
Lmao
I've spent thousands of quarters in arcades, I paid for the atmosphere/environment and the games were actually good. But this garbage is ridiculous
The new 2020 trend in games: “Pay-to-Pay-to-Play”
In 2021: pay to stay
In 2022: PAY!
What games are pay to play in 2020 I don’t have that many games this year sadly due to the virus.
People say snowrunner is a ptw game with no real evidence as everything is in game is unlockable on the map for free
Free to play to pay
tommy springfield those ones I don’t play except warframe and warfare to check them out free games lol
shadowspider9 ah ok 👌 totally agree there to this day I tell people cod is the reason why dlc and season pass so expensive, I remember halo 2/3 dlc 4.99$ for packs....shit I’m old lmao
The fact they refer to it as a scheme... There are no words.
You know scheme isn't the same as scam, right? A scheme is just a plan that is doing what it supposed to. THIS scheme IS a scam, but not all schemes are. Think about a color scheme, is that a 'scam' or is it just a defined collection of options put into action. Yong uses a LOT of words he don't know the meaning to or how to pronounce them, and often as in this case, uses the word inaccurately. Think about a monetization scheme that sells you a solid offline single player story that actually does 'just work' with the intent of selling the game for a fair market price and merchandising by making bobbleheads, and other merch. This is certainly fair, ethical and is in no way a scam, but is entirely a scheme.
Sometimes it's used in a negative context but only because people don't think it means what it means.
Here's what Webster's defines it as:
Definition of scheme
1: a plan or program of action
especially : a crafty or secret one
2: a systematic or organized configuration : DESIGN
color scheme
3: a concise statement or table : EPITOME
4a: a graphic sketch or outline
archaic
(1): a mathematical or astronomical diagram
(2): a representation of the astrological aspects of the planets at a particular time
Notice how it has nothing to do with scam, that's a different thing. One could argue that the first definition's inclusion of "crafty or a secret(plan)" assumes it's for the purpose of committing a scam, but there are plenty of good reasons to have a crafty and secret plan to ensure security in code or prevent the theft of IP or leaks. Even so, that raises an issue of transparency vs privacy and security, but there's still no scam required in any part of it, secret, crafty, or otherwise.
I LMFAO'd when i heard Yong going on about it!
@@rustymustard7798 jesus man keep it brief
@@rustymustard7798 Regardless the connotations it now has in the gaming industry are nothing to sneeze at.
@@rustymustard7798 Learn what connotation is.
Rusty Mustard tl:dr all scams are schemes but not all schemes are scams.
"... pay to gain the ability to pay each month" WoW players: "..."
There's a difference.
In MMO's, you get a main storyline quest (Yeah, most of em are bad, I'm coming from FFXIV so a bit spoiled), a bunch of various locations, new dungeons/raids/classes/cosmetics, and your progress is saved.
In a BR your only objective is to win that match. Hop into another game, try and win that one.
MMO's require a lot more costs involving servers and infrastructure than BR's.
@@TeaMMatE11 also in WoW you dont need to pay to be able to pay to play each month. if you want the newest expansion then sure. but i was able to play for a month without paying for a single expansion. i kinda enjoyed it. not enough to pay for an expansion and keep paying monthly. but enought to say "eh it was kinda fun"
Wilhelm Dyrssen That’s why you should play Runescape
8.5k hours in game bby
Phantasy Star Online 2 is also really, really good.
Bad analogy. You buy WoW and then you buy a subscription. This is more like old school arcades, except far worse.
One of those two active users was Jim Sterling, the other was the developer crying furiously while looking at Fortnites player stats.
are they trying to beat their own record of fastest game to die after launch?
If your not first place your last place is their model
Well if it's already dead before launch then... I guess they win?
@@THEPELADOMASTER They are not satisfied, and trying to set a new one.
Two active players at launch is a pretty tall order.
@@THEPELADOMASTER no, no, no, this is not dead before launch. It was never alive
This makes EA look reasonable. You know the saying. Either you die a hero or you live long enough to see these companies become EA
I'd bet good money that EA has been chomping at the bit to implement something similar, but they know no one outside of the mobile market would be stupid enough to actually pay for it.
@@OmegaZyion i mean they wanted to implement at one point to charge us for reloading like wtf
@@vvatchout1
Really? When did that happen?
@@vvatchout1
The "Pay-to-Reload" was an April-Fools Joke; not an actual thing.
It was taken seriously basically because it's EA after all...
@Vox Populi
If I remember correctly, the "Paid Reload" was an actual Joke; and the Premium Ammo was suppose to give extra/more damage on each shot.
“Imagine actually paying to play a full match, we only had to play 80 hours to Darth Vader”
“Ohh, Imagine paying money to actually play more than once a day, we’ve been paying for the same sports game for years”
-This post was made by the EA Fan Boy Group
Yeah but battlefront 2 got way better. Don’t have anything to say about fifa.
@@8BitRip It got better, but now its support ended so it has no future and a battlefront 3 is being made.
Extremely Optimistic Take: Maybe Josh did this to demonstrate to his bosses that this shit wouldn't work?
When you're down and feeling really bad about yourself just remember someone thought charging to play a game no one wants was a good idea.
the culling 2 didnt even have players lmao and they actual dare to do this shit
Xaviant: “Do you guys not have money?”
Me, Also named Josh: *Eating the last of my Oreos and milk knowing full well I'm gonna sleep soon*
YongYea: "What is wrong with you, Josh, what the hell is wrong with you?"
Me: I-
EA: "Ah, a worthy opponent, finally. My first friend, my enemy."
I can only think of final fantasy 14 when I read this line specifically. A boss of stormblood sees you as both a friend and an enemy since you're the only worthy opponent he can fight.
And Bethesda
As Jim Sterling said, this is a “Fee to Pay” game.
Fee to pay to pay to play
Liiiiiiiive service
@@NormanReaddis and what they DID to Zhang He!
@@NormanReaddis "Trippul Ayy"
I don't even LIKE Jim and I'm on his side with this one, this is CRAP!!!
Xaviant: pay to play
EA: that's absurd even for me
Activision: me too
Konami: *THATS BRILLIANT XAVIANT-SAN*
Konami is Konami
@@Marinealver and konami is the worst
The Culling: "You have to pay PER match."
EA: "I HAVE THE BIGGEST BONER RIGHT NOW!!!"
Activision: ::looks down:: "WTF?!"
Me: What the hell is the culling? I’ve never heard of that.
(hears about how the game was screwed over by the developers)
Me: ah that’s why
"The Culling...now that is a name I have not heard in years." XD
>"Fans of The Culling..."
Three people makes a fan-base I guess...
Mighty Grimace it's more than the number that like the new Dr. Who
It's a fucking tripad
At this point, Bubsy has a much bigger fanbase than Culling
3 is exaggerated lol i doubt theres that many
a grain if sand can still be considered a pile of sand
The Culling, where dying in-game also kills the game itself!
Not that it was ever alive...
EA was just handed their next money-making scheme on a silver platter: pay-per-match.
this ain't a bruh moment, it's bruh momentum
I really hope not. The last thing we need is this shit gaining momentum.
It’s a Bruhpocalypse
@@ryuuotaku35 The first bruh royale game.
Its not a moment, its a full hour
Savor this Bruh Moment, you'll have to pay for the next one.
We did it guys , the monetary incentive now is to not having to play the game.
The pricing model is so difficult to parse, and so manifestly not targeted at any existing or potential playerbase, that I can only think that this is some kind of tax scheme or a deliberate failure calculated for business reasons.
I think it’s just a moron doing the first thing to come to his mind that would make up all the money he lost.
You can tell how much YongYea was not trying to laugh while making this video.
Conspiracy theory: EA paid them to do this to soften the general publics perception of their own versions of greedy monotization
Shit, I'd believe it
Abandon all hope ye who enter here
not usually the one for conspiracy theories, but I can feel my tin foil hat getting a bit too tight atm.
I'm just wondering how this Director guy has such a sick looking setup when his business is literally failing...
Thats EZ.
You get investors.
spend half the money they give you on coke
the rest on some bad ass hardware and an office
than you milk the money pigs and game whales with deadbeat DLC
pay the rent
and pay back the investors
and than repeat
that the game industry in 2020
It’s a money laundering business
green screen maybe
11:20
I hope an Internet Historian is made about all this
What?
What's on second, Who's on first.
This isn't important enough for him to make a video about
He hasn't even uploaded in awhile but i sure miss him 😭😭
@@arturo123561 he just dropped a vid on his 2nd channel
This game shows how dumb and greedy humans can be when creating games.
Xaviant just pulled the biggest "hold my beer" in gaming history
and as some people mentioned, they will charge you for it
Hold the entire fucking brewery
Hold the concept of beer dammit
I don't know why they thought an arcade cabinet like monetization would go over well but with how bad lootboxes have gotten I don't think it even elicits as much surprise and reaction as it should.
Even worse, imagine having to pay a fee just to play in that machine, and only then you get to insert a coin and start playing
“It can be expensive to run servers with a lot of players for a battle royale game”
Yeah....well you won’t need to worry guys, there will be zero players now....
This.
EA: “ummm let’s shelf this idea for now”
The game: do you have what it takes to survive.
Me: looks at wallet, "no."
"I keep typing system but it auto corrects to scheme..."
"Ya, that's fine, just go with it."
EA going to hire the guy that thought this up
Could be summed up as: Xavient had a goose that laid golden eggs, killed and cooked that goose thinking they could get a better goose, realized how badly they fucked up, got a new goose and spray-painted it gold claiming it was as good as the old one but are now demanding money on a regular basis to pay for the paint to keep the dumb thing looking gold, surprised Pikachu face when no one is buying the ruse