Ram Sales Down Big, Tundra Up, Tacoma Down - 2024 Q3 Truck Sales Results

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  • Опубліковано 19 лис 2024

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  • @Pickuptrucktalk
    @Pickuptrucktalk  Місяць тому

    Here is the link to the article: pickuptrucktalk.com/2024/10/2024-q3-truck-sales-tundra-gains-ram-big-drop-tacoma-slips/

  • @jordanaraujo2579
    @jordanaraujo2579 Місяць тому +11

    Just bought a Ram tradesman with the warlock package for 20% off msrp. It's not fancy, but I couldn't pass up that deal.

    • @vr4787
      @vr4787 Місяць тому

      I got my Classic Tradesman in 2020 brand new for $32k with V8, chrome trim, cloth interior and tow package. Hope you didn’t overpay even with the 20% discount.

  • @nordlandak6853
    @nordlandak6853 Місяць тому +6

    Every manufacture needs a serious reality check. Too expensive for new products

  • @70rayrich
    @70rayrich Місяць тому +5

    I was looking at a gm 1500 denali and a 1500 ram rebel both fully loaded. Wanted the Rebal, but the leasing per month for the Ram was 400 more with the same money down.

  • @smittysmitty481
    @smittysmitty481 Місяць тому +8

    Surprised to see the Tundra up in sales after a massive engine recall. Good for them

    • @voxel999
      @voxel999 Місяць тому +1

      Discounts. Auto brokers can get you $10K off Tundras. At a certain price point it is worth to take the risk.

    • @Kdavis8377
      @Kdavis8377 Місяць тому +1

      @@voxel999maybe it’s also because they’ve fixed the issue and are giving 100k people a new engine whenever they want it😂

  • @brettsuydam7457
    @brettsuydam7457 Місяць тому +3

    Wifes uncle got a Canyon. He got it for the exact reason you said. Not much more than the Colorado and it looks a little better.

  • @jaylee8542
    @jaylee8542 Місяць тому +2

    Just got me a 2024 Ranger a few weeks ago. So far I really like the truck.

  • @mabdman2140
    @mabdman2140 Місяць тому +5

    Not sure I agree with your comment about always buy the newest one. I like to wait for the kinks to get worked out before buying. It's why I have a 21 Tundra, and did not wait for the 22 and am I glad I did. I especially would not want to buy one currently with all the issues going on with about all the manufacturers.

  • @hellkitty1014
    @hellkitty1014 Місяць тому +16

    As a Ram fanboy...it is insane to see how bad the brand(and Stellantis writ-large) has shot themselves in the foot. Getting rid of the HEMI(while it's chief competitors found a way to keep V8s around), very weak updates on the HDs, and of all, raising prices JUST to raise prices have all caught up to them. Now they're forced to take $10-$20K off of trucks because the class has largely moved on. Not surprising and it doesn't look to get any better any time soon.
    Ram is losing customers and GMC is the catch-basket for them.

  • @davidporter7051
    @davidporter7051 Місяць тому +3

    The issue isn't just this year for Ram. Its sales has had consecutive years of double digit losses and its Ram's worst year since 2014.

  • @arhamkhakwani5851
    @arhamkhakwani5851 Місяць тому +21

    The issue isn’t waiting for a new generation, it’s the fact that the Hemi is gone and the price for a non-hemi Ram is completely absurd, not to mention the notorious reliability record for Ram trucks and we have no idea how well the new inline TT Inline 6 will last.

    • @371kenny
      @371kenny Місяць тому +3

      Well since they are blowing head gaskets in the wagoneer id say not a good start

    • @Jay-me7gw
      @Jay-me7gw Місяць тому

      @@371kenny Are they really? Is that related to the issue with the thermostat housing causing them to overheat or are they just randomly blowing them?

    • @371kenny
      @371kenny Місяць тому +1

      @Jay-me7gw i believe its thermostat housing leading to overheating/head gasket failure. There's some good videos out there now about it if you look. I don't own one and wouldn't own a hurricane for several production years , just for reasons like this. First year runs have problems of anything.

    • @jjpark1989
      @jjpark1989 Місяць тому +1

      Well, if we know anything about 1st editions of new generations, we know that they're going to have multiple issues. That's why instead of spending $90K on a Ram RHO, I'm looking at a nicely used TRX with good history.

    • @joeb2588
      @joeb2588 Місяць тому +1

      From what I gather, the India engineered new Hurricane is having problems. I like the Ram but I'd only get it in the 3.6 v6. HOWEVER, it's the rest of the truck that I'm reading is having issues. Parts quality has cheapend out a bit.

  • @beachlife3772
    @beachlife3772 Місяць тому +2

    I have had an order for a RAM truck for over 9 months...just go on to the forums and everyone is waiting and can't get their orders fulfilled. -19% confirms this management team has lost their way...

  • @BrandonBaecker
    @BrandonBaecker Місяць тому +3

    Damn, when you combine the Colorado and Canyon twins, they're getting close to the Tacoma in sales! 97,666 vs 126,805 YTD.

    • @Pickuptrucktalk
      @Pickuptrucktalk  Місяць тому +1

      You actually got me to look at the chart again. 😆 and you are right.

    • @Jay-me7gw
      @Jay-me7gw Місяць тому +1

      @@Pickuptrucktalk Are you sure your Tacoma YTD totals are right. It says last year was 116k but this year is 126k, but then says its -29% YOY.

    • @Pickuptrucktalk
      @Pickuptrucktalk  Місяць тому +2

      @@Jay-me7gw I just updated the chart. Last year’s Q3 should be 179,186.

    • @Jay-me7gw
      @Jay-me7gw Місяць тому +1

      @@Pickuptrucktalk Ah ok. Thanks!

  • @jtbeachguy4338
    @jtbeachguy4338 Місяць тому +3

    Ram boxes should be an option in the higher levels

  • @ramtrucks721
    @ramtrucks721 Місяць тому +1

    My 2017 Ram 1500 V8 has been the best truck/vehicle ive ever had...but not getting another. Will get a used Ford Super Duty instead

  • @JohnMalerba
    @JohnMalerba Місяць тому +3

    I purchased a loaded every option 2019 Rebel. I paid 46000.00 with all discounts. That same truck in 2025 is about 87000. That crazy. People woke up. They are robbing us. I do put alot of blame on the UAW.. I don't mind them getting a raise.. but do your job. They work on production. They build so many, then play cards the rest of their shift.. I know my brother is one of them.

    • @Pickuptrucktalk
      @Pickuptrucktalk  Місяць тому

      2029?

    • @JohnMalerba
      @JohnMalerba Місяць тому +1

      @@Pickuptrucktalk 2019

    • @phillipgtr
      @phillipgtr Місяць тому

      Play cards on their shift, wow that’s a good job.😂bad for the company though, poor quality control for all big three US manufacturers

  • @terrencejones9817
    @terrencejones9817 Місяць тому +3

    I think you are off the Mark Tim. The RAM 2023 was also way down. The problem isn't the model change. RAM sold more classics vs the new 2019 RAM in the same year. The problem is the price and the dirt cheap RAM classic is gone.

    • @Pickuptrucktalk
      @Pickuptrucktalk  Місяць тому +1

      True the Ram classic was cash cow for them.

  • @bjsimon802
    @bjsimon802 Місяць тому +2

    if the men in power dont stop the inflation, the world will get worse for inflation. I fear the so many businesses and cost of everything will cause more problems

  • @AlfyPotsdam-wh9vs
    @AlfyPotsdam-wh9vs Місяць тому +1

    Which number on the YTD for the Tacos is correct? I'm guessing they did not sell 126K tacos so far and the percentage drop is correct.

    • @Pickuptrucktalk
      @Pickuptrucktalk  Місяць тому +1

      Last year Q3 sales year to date should be 179,681. They have sold 126k year to date which is down about 50k trucks vs last year.

    • @AlfyPotsdam-wh9vs
      @AlfyPotsdam-wh9vs Місяць тому +1

      @@Pickuptrucktalk Ahhh, that makes sense! Figured it was a typo, just curious what number was right.

  • @privateer9181
    @privateer9181 Місяць тому +1

    ram just needs to prove the i6 is better than the hemi in every way they need to slap a 100k mile warranty on the engines

  • @taraschernyy
    @taraschernyy Місяць тому

    Is not difficult to fill the lots, that is completely untrue. Dealerships are turning down allocations because of over supply, especially RAM dealers.

  • @9663mu
    @9663mu Місяць тому +3

    Are we now deleting comments that are negative toward Ram ?

    • @Pickuptrucktalk
      @Pickuptrucktalk  Місяць тому

      Who is deleting them? I’m not.

    • @9663mu
      @9663mu Місяць тому

      @@Pickuptrucktalk thanks for clarifying. Maybe UA-cam did it. So odd it was not a threat or anything like that. Thanks Tim. I always appreciate you sharing info with us

    • @Pickuptrucktalk
      @Pickuptrucktalk  Місяць тому

      @@9663mu I think I delete about 2 comments a month and it is just for inappropriate sexual comments or personal attacks. I have no tolerance for those.

  • @alp3781
    @alp3781 Місяць тому

    GMC/Chevy must be very happy, these days. I say, hold till the end of 01/25. You will see deep discounts coming.

  • @martindeanculp4493
    @martindeanculp4493 Місяць тому +1

    I understand their sales r down big , but they won’t go bankrupt , no manufacturer will , we even imagine how much $ they’ve all made the last 5 years , selling $100000 vehicles

  • @Jay-me7gw
    @Jay-me7gw Місяць тому +2

    Most ram buyers I have seen are not happy about the Hemi going away. A lot of Ram buyer bought rams specifically because they wanted a port injected, iron block, V8 that warps manifolds and eats cams.
    If they wanted a turbo motor they could have been buying Ford, GM, or Toyota half tons already.
    I think we'll see ram take a permanent hit as people reluctantly jump ship to GM and Ford V8's. It might not be huge, but I think it will be long term. Turbo motors have been in trucks for 14+ years now and people still hate on them.

    • @Pickuptrucktalk
      @Pickuptrucktalk  Місяць тому

      This exact comment could be applied to the Tundra. I saw it all over the place back in 2022. Now its sales are up and it could have its biggest year yet. So I don’t know if people really hate turbos.

    • @Jay-me7gw
      @Jay-me7gw Місяць тому +1

      @@Pickuptrucktalk A lot of people still hate turbo engines and refuse to buy them. The no replacement for displacement crowd. I am not one of them, I just see it in the comments on all the youtube videos any time a turbo truck is reviewed.
      Was the Tundra supply limited all the years it shared the factory with the Tacoma, like you stated in the video?
      Also, I know you are on the Tundra forum from time to time, there are so many dudes on there that will just buy a tundra and knowingly overload it because they refuse to buy a domestic brand truck with proper capabilities. There's a lot of people that are going to buy a Toyota regardless because they can't fathom that it could be worse. There is a difference between Ram buyers and Toyota buyers.

    • @Pickuptrucktalk
      @Pickuptrucktalk  Місяць тому

      @@Jay-me7gw Yes, for years the Tundra and Tacoma shared that factory and more often than not, they built more Tacoma trucks than Tundra trucks. I once had a Toyota PR rep tell me I'm the only journalist who reported on that fact. He said most overlook the capacity constraint. I think about plant production all the time because you can't sell what you don't have on the lot.
      And I know a lot of Toyota owners personally who don't know what their trucks towing capacity or payload limits are. They just load them up and go. Sometimes they tell me stories that freaks even me out! LOL

    • @jjpark1989
      @jjpark1989 Місяць тому

      ​@@Jay-me7gw I'm one of those people. I will avoid turbos at all costs if I can. If I had to pick engine enhancers, it would be a supercharger. I was thinking about the RHO, but I'm just afraid it's going to cause me a lot of issues being the 1st edition and all. I'm actually looking to buy a TRX instead.

    • @Jay-me7gw
      @Jay-me7gw Місяць тому

      @@jjpark1989 I think the problem we are going to see with the Hurricane HO in the RHO is that you need to be in near perfect conditions for that engine to make its rated power and torque, especially if doing truck tasks. While I know it is possible to get that kind of power out of a 3.0, I cannot imagine it can do it on a 100F day towing up a mountain at high elevation.
      I think we will either see it derate easily due to high coolant/intake temps or because the PCM will have limiters in the tuning that pull power if the wind blows the wrong direction.

  • @ML-lg4ky
    @ML-lg4ky Місяць тому +1

    Tim you have to clean up your speech. Slow down some and clean up the words. Maybe record your thoughts and reread them in post? Great message just helping with your delivery! Cheers

    • @atg1338
      @atg1338 Місяць тому

      Blah blah blah... do us all a favor and stay in the basement....

    • @Pickuptrucktalk
      @Pickuptrucktalk  Місяць тому

      Click the gear icon and select the playback speed that works for you.

  • @JoelDean-f9n
    @JoelDean-f9n Місяць тому +1

    What’s with the hate for Rams i am in Australia and I’m on my third Ram now in a TRX all 3 have been reliable well built trucks we love them here , but I’ve noticed in America there seems to be a over the top hatred of them compared to other brands ?we have the Silverado here also and it has a shocking record of blown motors yet it doesn’t get the hate as much ?Am I missing something?

    • @Pickuptrucktalk
      @Pickuptrucktalk  Місяць тому

      Older Ram/Dodge trucks had a lot of issues. It takes years to change people’s opinions.

  • @gladegoodrich2297
    @gladegoodrich2297 Місяць тому +1

    Just bought a new 25 Ram 4x4 crew cab to replace my 22 F150. The 2.7 F150 was a great truck but the Ram rides better and is quieter.
    Why would anyone buy a Tundra? Isn't Toyota replacing all the bad engines?

  • @andrewteal3016
    @andrewteal3016 Місяць тому +8

    Just bought a 2024 Tundra with an August 24 build date. My feeling on the engine issue was that "maybe" I'll have something but, realistically, probably not. IF I DO - I feel much better about Toyota taking care of me than any other OEM I've had to deal with in the past. So for me it was "if there's an issue, whose team would I rather deal with?" - Toyota won out for me.

    • @markf8256
      @markf8256 Місяць тому

      That was my approach as well back in 22. Of course my 1794 is affected by the engine recall and it is still awaiting parts for the fuel line recall, now over a year. I have very little faith that they will have a new engine in my truck by this time next year. The only recall that comes close to this is the frame rust recall with the 1st gen’s, which I still own (2003). It never needed a frame, just the CRC coating. It took years for Toyota to fully address that problem. Toyota will take care of their customers but they take their sweet time doing it.

    • @andrewteal3016
      @andrewteal3016 Місяць тому

      @@markf8256 I hear that, but I also have a pile of friends with lifter failures in their GM products and zero help from GM at all. For example.
      None are "good" - it's become which are "least bad" I think.

    • @robs7527
      @robs7527 Місяць тому

      Were you ever burned by the American trucks?

    • @atg1338
      @atg1338 Місяць тому

      Great if my truck blows up they will fix it🤣🤣🤣 at least ford and gm trucks you don't have to worry about the engine blowing up at 4000 miles. That's the most ignorant think I've heard on here 🤣🤣🤣

    • @andrewteal3016
      @andrewteal3016 Місяць тому

      @@atg1338 Ford was dropping valves with catastrophic engine failures on the 2.7 Eco in the Bronco - just announced a 91k unit recall on those. Chevy hasn't helped a single person on the lifter issue.
      I'll stick with Toyota, after going through issues with every other OEM for "ease of doing business with". Watch how Ford handles this 91k engine recall for comparison.

  • @michaelstewart9366
    @michaelstewart9366 Місяць тому +1

    Would be funny but ram still has new 2023 on the lot.

  • @josephjroy6593
    @josephjroy6593 Місяць тому +1

    To be far, the 2025 ram 1500 is going through a mid-cycle refresh, not a new generation: LED headlights and ACC is standard on all trims (Good thing). New Uber-luxurious trim Tungsten.
    The engine is new.
    The 2025 2500-3500 series should be a real generational leap above the 2024.

  • @Alyosha00
    @Alyosha00 Місяць тому +2

    Stellantis has huge inventories (I guess all the fear monger youtubers were right ;). It can't sell cars because Stellantis raised prices more than any other manufacturer. The company's stock is trash (look it up). The CEO has his days counted. This has nothing to do with new models or California emission standards, bla bla bla... those are the excuses Stallantis management gives. It is disingenuous.

  • @dalemiller4457
    @dalemiller4457 Місяць тому +1

    Ram still has 2023 trucks on their lots

  • @Dusdaddy
    @Dusdaddy Місяць тому +2

    Oh boy, cue the Tacoma haters screaming "conspiracy!" in 5,4,3,.....

    • @westcoastplinkin6559
      @westcoastplinkin6559 Місяць тому

      Lol I love all the people that were saying the Frontier was going to be the #1 mid size truck sold.

  • @M-.-Jones
    @M-.-Jones Місяць тому +1

    Nothing wrong with Turbo's provided it's on a V8. lol

  • @trevorcallison
    @trevorcallison Місяць тому

    I paid 56,000 for my ram and in 2mo they dropped the price 20,000

    • @SR-dh1vj
      @SR-dh1vj Місяць тому

      I currently have two Ram's on a price change watch list from the same dealer, one a Big Horn and the other a Larmie. Yesterday I got a price change alert on the Big Horn, it dropped a few grand, down to 46.5k. Today another price change alert on the same truck and it went up to 58k! Thinking it was a mistake I clicked on the photo of the truck from yesterday's price alert, it came up to the dealer's website and sure enough it had gone up it is 58k.

  • @DirkDiggler-p5q
    @DirkDiggler-p5q Місяць тому

    The 2025 Rams have a clock spring issue.

  • @RJ2878
    @RJ2878 Місяць тому

    Tacoma year to date shows an increase in sales. Error in your data

  • @leedanielson7452
    @leedanielson7452 Місяць тому +5

    Ram makes great trucks! I've had eight brand new ones over many many years and every one of them was top-notch!!!!! They have been so good that my next truck will probably be another ram, but we will see...

    • @ramrider1453
      @ramrider1453 Місяць тому +1

      Good day sir. Yup and I have to agree with ya. My Ram has been a great truck and still is 👍

    • @davidporter7051
      @davidporter7051 Місяць тому +3

      you can't speak about quality. You keep trading in evey 2-3 years

    • @leedanielson7452
      @leedanielson7452 Місяць тому

      @@davidporter7051 Quality for the two or three years that I have each truck is awesome! Not one of those trucks was ever brought into the dealer for repairs... probably half of them had recalls which none of them were very serious....

    • @leedanielson7452
      @leedanielson7452 Місяць тому

      @@ramrider1453 Good to hear from you man!!! I'm glad you're still kicking lol

    • @AltTechFan
      @AltTechFan Місяць тому

      ​@@davidporter7051I can. I have an '06 Dodge Ram 1500 Laramie Ext Cab 4x4. I got it about 7 years ago with 69k miles. I paid $12k. It now has almost 150k miles. No tick. No exhaust leak. I do my own oil changes and use full synthetic. I added a later model factory head unit just to get bluetooth, sat radio, and a backup camera. 2 functional things have needed repair: the oil pressure sender and the diff pinion seal.
      Given the $ I invest every month instead of going to a truck payment, I'll deal w/the broken power back window and tach. Both could likely be fixed reasonably easily but it just isn't a high priority for me. I'll drive this truck till it dies.

  • @JK-qe6qq
    @JK-qe6qq Місяць тому +2

    I think you have year to date screwed up on Toyota Tacoma!

    • @Pickuptrucktalk
      @Pickuptrucktalk  Місяць тому +1

      I had last year Q3 sales wrong. It’s actually 179,186.

  • @Link-we8so
    @Link-we8so Місяць тому +1

    I dont thnk the 2025 rams are selling very well either. They already have 16k marked off at all my local dealers. Even on big horns. They have some nice looking rebals but all of them have the low output engine

  • @williampisano7573
    @williampisano7573 Місяць тому +2

    Ram 🐏 does not have a small truck 🛻 ford small truck market up 30%+ and 100%+ford maverick ford ranger lol 😂

    • @williampisano7573
      @williampisano7573 Місяць тому +1

      Ram 🐏 still has 2023 on there lots lol 😂

    • @williampisano7573
      @williampisano7573 Місяць тому +1

      Lightning ⚡️ f-150 up 100%

    • @williampisano7573
      @williampisano7573 Місяць тому

      Ford need to make a f-100 electric truck 🛻 based on the maverick frame design would be great smaller and lower then f-150 but still full size truck but bigger then ranger towing 7500-10,000 lbs

  • @DarenKumar-v7x
    @DarenKumar-v7x Місяць тому

    You may give good truck advice but bad financial advice used trucks have less depreciation

    • @Dusdaddy
      @Dusdaddy Місяць тому +1

      Totally depends on timing. Used trucks now were the brand new ones during Covid. Way overpriced. The deals on some new ones make up for the depreciation easy.

    • @Jay-me7gw
      @Jay-me7gw Місяць тому +2

      Yeah, sorry, when I bought my 2014 F150 Ecoboost, the price with Ford's and the dealers discounts made it not even worth looking at 2-3 year old F150s.
      Every other car i have ever bought was used. But it did not make sense with my F150.

    • @Pickuptrucktalk
      @Pickuptrucktalk  Місяць тому +3

      Wait, I gave financial advice?

    • @DarenKumar-v7x
      @DarenKumar-v7x Місяць тому +1

      Just to clarify, I’m referring to used trucks are not worth buying. They definitely are in my opinion . The mark ups are less than during COVID times, especially now low milage used trucks are available. What I like about used market is you don’t take the initial depreciation markup and less afraid to beat up the truck and do truck things.
      I’ve been seeing better deals on the used truck markets in my area.
      Btw I enjoy your videos and Content! 👍🏾

    • @Pickuptrucktalk
      @Pickuptrucktalk  Місяць тому +1

      @@DarenKumar-v7x Buy used. It doesn't matter to me at all honestly. I buy new but for really dumb business reasons.